>doesn't use hall effect sticks
aaaaaand it's dog shit
chink controllers win again

Can anyone who actually owns this (and switch pro 1 ideally) tell me if the Dpad is still prone to accidental diagonals?
I desperately needed something better than the buttons on the joy con back in 2017 but the original switch pro was a huge letdown in that regard.
How is it now?

>>713668006 (OP)
>some meme powera fortnite controller with hall effect sticks is the best wireless controller on the market.
What a time to be alive.

>>713668468
i don't have it but there's tons of videos of it giving false imputs just like the original.
>>713668006 (OP)
hall effects are the gamer equivalent of audiophiles putting crystals on their cables.

>>713668006 (OP)
I have a """"""""""""""pro"""""""""""""" controller 1, how is this one better?
at least tell me its xinput and not direct input lmao
these jewtendo controllers are overpriced as fuck.

>>713668842
Can't even connect to PC from a video I saw, maybe some other anon could debunk this.

>>713668468
I did the tape mod and it made it very usable
also put a tiny bit not only on the contacts but in the middle of the d-pad so it lifts its up a bit.
also replaced the analogs with aluminum ones, at least for pro1 you can use xbone ones, its a worthwhile investment because they last forever so you can put back the plastic ones if you ever get rid of the controller. and no bullshit white dust

>>713668729
The code in the box is worth half the price of the controller. :\

>>713668729
Well no not even close. All the best controllers right now are the stuff like flydigi beitong bigbig won gamesir etc

>>713668945
Works fine on PC. No reason to use it as it's regressive beyond early Xbox controllers

>>713668006 (OP)
I have both switch 2 pro and tarantula pro controllers and the tarantula pro wins easily. The only good thing about the switch 2 pro is that you can turn on the console with it.

>>713669234
>chinese garbage
PowerA controllers all have a 2 year warranty. I'd trust that over Chang's word.
https://www.powera.com/support-articles/general-info-ordering-support/product-information-and-guarantees/powera-warranty/

hall effect is a meme

official controllers have infinitely better build quality than chinkshit

>>713669465
? Why would you need a controller warranty? All you little kids push your sticks to death. I have never had a controller break in fucking 40 years gaming kiddo.

Powera is Chinese. You absolute retard. Lmfao. Powera is also sold at Walmart which is why you are familiar with it, of course you have no idea what is actually happening in this space beyond your fucking Walmart shelf :(

>>713668006 (OP)
For me, its powera

>>713669764
Uhh, yeah, sure. Sticks that break have higher quality than ones that don't.

Stockholm syndrome. Very typical of console onlys. Go pay 80 bucks for your non hall effect controller bro L M A O

"The thing I can't use on my console because it's not actually for playing games must be bad because I can't use it"

>>713668006 (OP)
I feel like Alps Alpine has a monopoly on all the home console controller joysticks. xbox and PS controllers all use Alps sticks too.

>>713672779
Well no they use it because it's cheap shit. All relevant controllers are now hall sticks. Consoleretards eat shit.

>>713669868
>I have never had a controller break in fucking 40 years gaming kiddo.
Post your cute little gentle girl hands.

>>713669868
>Powera is Chinese.
Huh?

>>713668729
>best wireless controller on the market
I beg to differ

>>713668468
I've just tested both. It's a little better but it's still possible to get an up direction pressing only on the left or right. I think it's just barely good enough to where you won't get an accidental diagonal unless you're trying to do it.

>>713677690
>buying 8shitdodo

>>713678058
werks for me

>>713677690
the dock is great

ENTER
GAMESIR

>>713678124
this. i love how it automatically disconnects and reconnects the controller

>>713678206
isn't the dpad on those shit
I like the clicky dpad on my 8bitdo

>>713668729
>>713677690
Neither of these have gyro. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it

>>713668006 (OP)
I cycle through controllers but I've literally never had an issue in years never mind drift. Wash your hands, clean your controllers occasionally, don't eat with your fingers while gaming, and everything has stayed like new.

>>713678431
the ultimate 2 definitely has gyro
works well for shit like expedition 33

>>713678431
Skill issue?

>>713678483
The one shown right there is the Xbox version which iirc don't typically come with it. 8bitdo specifically makes 2 versions ones with xbox buttons and ones with Nintendo buttons that I know for sure have gyro. I have the ultimate 1 in red with the nintendo layout that can swap between switch mode and xinput

>>713678618
the xbox one shown has gyro

>>713678934
If so that's actually really cool. And should be the standard going forward but Microsoft still doesn't wanna do it. The Series S/X controller has my favorite dpad and I would love to use it for more than just racers or side scrollers

>>713679025
microsoft doesn't want to do gyro or hall effect for some fucking reason even though it would cost them like half a jersey mikes sub to do it

>>713679194
The want them to break down so people will be tempted to buy one of those special colored versions they keep putting out.

>>713668006 (OP)
i unironically still boughtededede it day one

>>713668757
>hall effects are the gamer equivalent of audiophiles putting crystals on their cables.
It's the controller equivalent of "rollback netcode will solve my 600 ms ping"

>>713679025
Exactly, man. It blows my mind that MS is still dragging their feet on stuff like gyro and hall effect sticks when third-party controllers are out here flexing both for less. Like, I get that their base controller is solid, especially that dpad, but imagine that same form factor with all the extras people want in 2025. Instead, we get neon slime green variants with the same old analog drift lottery.

>>713684086
The fucking original xbox fixed the drift problem in 2001 by resetting the deadzone of the controller on every start up. Of course this is now lost tech.

>>713668006 (OP)
Why are these companies still using potentiometers? Hall effect sticks cost pennies more and are so much better. There are controllers under $30 that use hall effect sticks. Pic related

>>713668006 (OP)
It is actually insane how they refuse to fix it

>>713668006 (OP)
can someone explain to me why hall effect sticks are so much better?
I may be retarded because the switch controller feels fine to me.

>>713678520
>it is not plugged in

>>713668992
>$70 controller
>have to mod it to be usable
grim

>>713685241
>in 2001 by resetting the deadzone of the controller on every start up
oh like the n64 controller did in 1996?

>>713686947
what controller do you not have to mod to be useful thats cheaper than $70

>>713686973
I thought n64 didn't get drift by default because it used lasers n shiet

>>713686861
basically it uses magnets to determine the position of the sticks instead of the normal stuff. Since magnets don't make physical contact theoretically there's no degradation of components so drift won't occur

>>713687096
wired 360 controller
>$30
>lasts 15+ years
>just werks

>>713687096
gamecube

OK anons shitting on the pro controller shill me a third party
>asymmetrical
>hall effect or better sticks
>digital triggers
>good dpad
>gyro controls
>doesn't come with an absurd chemical/circuit smell
>preferable with additional back button
I prefer rechargeable battery but that's not required. Price doesn't matter

>>713686861
because redditors think they dont break, they do still break and they also decalibrate randomly as opposed to potentiometers that also break
im just glad there is competition, the switch 2 joycons and pro controller actually innovated somewhat, probably because they cant use hall effect sticks for the joycons because of the magnets

>>713678124
This. Instant hot swap between controller and MKB just by docking it, the peak of convenience.

i wish people cared about the switch 2 joycons as much as i did
i love them in theory for combining mice and controllers into 1, + wii motion aiming with that improved gyro, + conceptually the detaching into two controllers
but the execution is only just good, the joycons are still small without any real grip
i just want like joycon pros or whatever, and PC drivers so badly
i want to use these for pikmin and metroid
and even worse i want the mouse mode to be able to control the camera in 3rd person games
but no one even cares enough about joycons in the first place
le sigh

>>713668729
Retard.

>>713669234
>flydigi beitong bigbig won gamesir
Are you having a stroke

>>713668006 (OP)
A true gamer is good at videogames even with a madcatz controller

>>713677690
I had two of those with fucked left sticks right out of the box. I'm not trusting 8BitDo again.

based specnigger parroting le hall effect maymay
when gamepad industry is already abandoning it

>>713668006 (OP)
First-party controllers will never have hall effect sticks because they want you to keep buying a new controller every year.

>>713669234
I have a Vader 4 Pro but I hate the chink obsession with clicky buttons.

>>713691898
As opposed to controller focused companies that don't want you to buy their main product more than once

>>713692161
Their way of competing with first-party controllers is by giving you better products.

>>713677690
i owned one, it's so fucking bad i returned it
>sticks do not have smooth actuation
>face buttons, even though membrane, are very unpleasant to press
>half-clicky half-membrane feel of d-pad is fucking awful and VERY inconsistent, easily the worst thing about this gamepad
>clicky bumpers are very stiff and hurt your fingers if you smash them with fingertips like i do
>both trigger digital-analog switches broke within a week, making triggers dip further than they should
>placement of minus/select button is retardedly uncomfortable
but hey, we have RGB sticks now for epic gamers!

overall vastly inferior to ultimate 1 which i keep using

>>713668006 (OP)
I can't believe that Nintendo rather has optical sensors in the Joy Con but still no haptic triggers and track pads. We are so close to the perfect gamepad, and the DualSense really isn't it either.

Hall effect should have been industry standard an entire console generation ago. The fact that $30 chinkshit budget controllers outdo $80+ first party offerings in both performance and build quality is frankly pathetic.

There isn't a single controller on the market right now from any manufacturer that doesn't have a dogshit dpad. Why the fuck is something so simple seemingly a lost art?

>>713676618
Where do you think the controllers and their parts are manufactured, retard?

>>713668006 (OP)
Drift is literally a skill issue
My switch lite still has absolutely zero drift and ive played it a lot over the years
Niggas just dont take care of their shit

Is this controller worth buying if I already have a switch 1 pro controller?

>>713677690
>Wireless
It's shit...

>>713670000
The vast, vast, vast majority of sticks break by losing their mechanical center, something that cheap shitty hall effect sticks are just as vulnerable to as anything else.
The quality of the components is literally all that matters. Not whether it uses some retarded meme term you don't understand.

>>713668006 (OP)
TMR > hall effect
Not that first party controllers use any of them lmao

>>713668729
Buy an ad

>>713685302
but then you won't be forced to buy more

>>713695659
TMR is god-tier in theory but name one controller actually implementing it properly outside of some fringe Korean niche. Hall effect is just easier for manufacturers to slap into a shell and call it premium. Meanwhile Nintendo's still over here using graphite sliders from 2006.

>>713677690
Got this one recently and love it. Feels like a comfier version of the Xbox series controller

>>713695326
Tiny little twink hands typed this post. Cute little dainty twink didn't break his joycons because he has cute little boy hands.
I want to pin you down and break your joycons so your stick drifts

Are Scuff Controllers any good?
They seem like what I am looking for but the reviews online are by people who are massively retarded and it makes me wonder if it isn't for me.

I just want a controller that can last me a lifetime and am currently using a standard DS4 which I like but will surely eventually break. I do occasionally use the motion feature for emulation but I don't care about HD rumble.

>>713687836
GameSir Cyclone 2

I replaced my fiancee's joycon joysticks with Hall Effect ones online, it was actually really easy.
The true Nintendo bullshit is that I've had L and R buttons quite literally break off their solder on the DS lite and the 3DS and they've used very similar ribbon cable architecture, and you'd think Nintendo would fix this shit by now.
The Steam Deck's L and R buttons are massive behemoths that you have to use a lot of force to remove when reshelling.

>>713686861
Hall effect sticks use magnets to determine where you're pointing it. Conventional sticks use potentiometers, which do wear down eventually like all magnetic components. Theoretically every conventional stick has a limited lifespan, though in practice this lifespan is pretty long unless it's a compact stick like those on the joycons. Joycons had an issue with stick drift due to their shitty potentiometers, and so "hall effect sticks" became a meme phrase that redditors know but don't understand.
Hall effects sticks have essentially zero difference in feel compared to a normal stick, though it's easier to make very low-resistance thumbsticks using hall effect. Some companies will play into that and make their hall effect sticks very low resistance. This is very fucking retarded since it makes it FAR harder to be precise.
>>713687193
>Since magnets don't make physical contact theoretically there's no degradation of components so drift won't occur
"Components" still make contact to hold the fucking stick in place. It's just the potentiometers which aren't going to degrade.

>>713696043
>which do wear down eventually like all magnetic components.
Like all physical components*
fuck

>>713691898
>First-party controller fails
>I buy a third party one to replace it
Was that part of their plan?

>>713694218
How about the 8bitdo M30

>>713695659
Gamesir wins again https://miuravault.com/en/collections/gamesir

>>713691898
They want you to keep buying VIDEOGAMES each year, anon. Their profit on videogames is many times that on controllers, outside of meme deluxe controllers.
>>713692335
Their way of competing it by giving you the perception of better products. They also have an incentive to make their devices fail so you buy another one. It's not complicated.

>>713696119
You're not the consumer for that, dummy. It's planned obsolescence for ignorant parents so they can keep buying 1st party controllers that break for their kids. Nintendo still thinks parents are boomers.

>>713695889
i have very average guy hands i guess i just dont chimp out on my stuff or raw dog it in a bag/pocket

>using wireless slop
Enjoy your input lag and dropped connection, fags

>>713696380
who cares if you arent playing competitive online slop

>>713668006 (OP)
Waiting for Mobapad joycon and controllers again to fix Nintendo's cheap junk

>>713696380
Switch 2 greatly improved the wireless reliability over Switch 1 tbf.

>>713696587
What if I play competitive offline slop

>>713687372
>no gyro

>>713696380
you can connect it wired to the dock

>>713685302
>Hall effect sticks cost pennies more
There's your answer. Once a company gets big enough, everything becomes a race to the bottom.

>>713687372
>>$30
Nuh huh

So what happened to Madcatz and Pelican? I refuse to believe that those companies didn't just change their names.

>>713678096
until it doesn't
basically the same thing as clamshell chinkhelds from a few actors, you unwillingly enter a lottery on whether your vidya device's hinge breaks in a month or three

>>713678431
You want a chinkpad with gyro, you're looking for GameSAAR's Supernova

>>713668006 (OP)
I prefer open world effect.