Thread 713679443

>coolest monster finally comes back after almost a decade of absence
>in the worst mh game
I don't know whether I should even be excited...

>>713679443 (OP)
> 1 to 1 moveset clone of Royal Ludroth. Literally nothing about is unique and it didn't get it's own moves until Ivory.

>shit monster returns
yawwwwwwwwwwwn

>>713679443 (OP)
what's cool about him? Looks like another lame long guy.

>>713679789
Ahh yes who can forget Royal Ludroth's Blanka attack?

>>713679443 (OP)
Doesn't matter. lagiacrus should have never came back without underwater combat. it was ass in gen ult.

It would have been cooler if Lagi came back through a 3U HD PC release.

>>713680150
Unless he gets a massive overhaul for Wilds, he's just Khezu + Royal Ludroth.

>>713680207
Yes Royal Ludroths signature underwater attack but now it's blue!

>>713679443 (OP)
>nonswimming version
No fucking thanks, also we already got mizutsune, why the fuck would we want a mizutsune with fewer moves....

>>713680458
Capcom is 100% going to make lagiacrus an instakill machine, is the only way they will get attention from the dying playerbase.

>>713680550
>.216% players

>>713680550
Maybe theyll make him fucking huge too, thatd be neat

>>713680631
They better not. Wilds is already way too cluttered. Gore is one of the shittiest fights mainly because of his size.

>>713680819
Was Gore that big in 4U? I remember him being so much smaller

>>713680631
Would be mega AIDS in scarlet forests except in the 2 flat and wide dam zones. It's really bizarre how they put jumbo sized monsters like gore in tiny corridor maps like iceshard cliffs while the gigantic areas of windswept plains are just empty.

>>713680947
Wilds suffers from World syndrome where monsters are oversized. Gore is actually quite smallish and medium sized as a giant crown in gen4 and Sunbreak.

>>713680947
His average size is 17.65m and that's across 4U, GU, Sunbreak and Wilds.

>>713679443 (OP)
wilds is fun it just has no content
fire and imprison whoever made the decision to add a story

>>713679789
>1 to 1 moveset clone of Royal Ludroth
*less moves than Royal Ludroth even in Tri
and its underwater moveset only adds a hipcheck and a discharge. Despite being the posterboys for Leviathans it manages to be the worst one

>>713681712
It's gotta be Ryozo. He's the chief's son though.

>>713679443 (OP)
>I don't know whether I should even be excited...
I know I'm not. Unless Capcom fundamentally reworks the game I'm not coming back.

>>713679443 (OP)
>poser lagiafags will be exposed
>tribabs who said lagia shouldn't come back without underwater will be vindicated

>>713679443 (OP)
scaleussy

>>713679443 (OP)
The Monster Hunter Tri trailers and opening cinematic is what got me to buy FU on the PSP since I didn't have a Wii. I downloaded a Wii emulator just to play Tri before Lagi came to Wilds but after the third session it stopped recognising my controller inputs no matter what I did, and I haven't been able to play since. Shit sucks :^(

>>713679443 (OP)
Lagi is cute! CUTE!

The leaked insect glaive was pretty cool. Love to swing around a trident, though an actually spearlike stabbing weapon type would be even better.

>>713691592
We need more blunt weapons and not jack of all trades like CB

>>713691806
I'd take anything at this point. The Akuma gear letting you punch and kick was pretty fun, so some oversized gauntlets that deal blunt damage would be cool.
It's weird how the Akuma gear scales with your weapon damage but they don't give you the riceball charm that lets you actually deal comparable damage with the other weapons.

>>713692215
I want gauntlets that can transform into claws. Basically hammer+DB

>>713679443 (OP)
>>713679789
returntorice where you can fight afflicted royal ludroth lmao

>>713680631
technically he should be same size as uth tuna, except less fat and with a longer neck and tail

>>713680289
I'd buy this since my WiiU bricked a good few years ago

>>713679443 (OP)
Why not a new leviathan instead? Lagi on land was boring

What have they added since release? Can anyone give me a run-down since I haven't even been back to the game since initial release weekend when I did literally everything. I think they added Zoh but that should have been in the base game anyway?

>>713693275
akuma lol

>>713679789
>>713680361
>>713682623
why are we okay with just lying now?
>less moves than droth
wrong
>no new moves
wrong
>less moves than droth but here are two they added
so where are the 3+ they removed?

Droth doesnt do the super twirling charge underwater that carted literally every faggot online whenever lagi was in rage mode.

>>713684401
>>tribabs who said lagia shouldn't come back without underwater will be vindicated
this, underwater was fine. All complaints come down to skill issue with the controller in their hands
>well what about the moveset for the s-
fine, some weapons were shit underwater, but thats something you fix, not scorched earth away.
Ivory had more land-moves but it was objectively less interesting as the king of the SEA's underwater combat.
3U also had a good plesioth so theres that.

is lagi hard for world/rise player like me?

>>713693498
you can fight royal ludroth and there's your added lagi experience, add some khezu aoe as well

>>713693275
Literally nothing. Lagiacrus is going to be the first bit of actual new content.

>>713693309
>>713693640
They really fucked up with Wilds. Insane how boring it is, the "persistent and open world" theme of the game was pointless too.

>lagi is going to arrive just to job to tuna
>seregios is going to arrive just to job to rey
kek, nice title update monsters

>>713693498
lagi is basically ludroth and khezu mashed together, also even in old gen lagi was stupid easy, the only thing that was troublesome was the shit hitboxes

>>713695183
Lagi will be stronger than Tuna, Trichads run this fanbase. Also his armor will have awakening

>>713693629
>>713695298
i see, should be easy with focus mode then.

>>713695329
m8 it's already been datamined, he loses to tuna

>>713695427
Lagi is stronger than his programming

>>713684401
Idk the white lagiacrus in 3U was a much harder monster for me. Vanilla was a total jobber and static snoozefest underwater, even in G rank.

>>713679443 (OP)
>Lagiacrus in a game without underwater combat

Imagine if Rathalos couldn't fly and his entire moveset was his ground one.

>>713696912
>Imagine if Rathalos couldn't fly and his entire moveset was his ground one.
So it's Kut-Ku?

>>713679443 (OP)
Old water monster returns.
The new game does not have water battles like MH3G. Fuck this gay as shit.

Lagi was always shit, never understood the fan reception for him. Maybe back in the day sure, but without underwater he's such a boring fight.

Based on Wild's track record, I'm not holding out hope.
Besides Mizu, the retuning monsters are not only weird choices, but they're also the most boring fights in the game.

>>713697767
>without underwater he's boring
>underwater consisted of the same self-electrifying move and random jerks/dashes
ok?

for me? its astalos

>>713697540
Exactly. Lagiacrus without swimming is Royal Ludroth.

Lagiacrus is such a sad barebones monster that it doesn't even have a claw swipe. It has a moveset as complex as a Ludroth, it only does generic Leviathan attacks, and no, not Royal Ludroth, Ludroth. The small monsters.
Underwater isn't much better.

Can't wait for them to fucking rape the Deserted Island theme like they did Forest & Hills, I fucking die inside every time I hear the part at 1:27
https://youtu.be/rCZoarYEH_Y

>>713679443 (OP)
Lagiacrus sucks

>>713700825
>Deserted Island theme
They will 100% fuck up the horns/trumpets.


Also
>two leviathan monsters in a row
>both use the same locale
wtf is Crapcom smoking?
are they lowkey admitting the forest is the only good area in the game?

For me it's stabbing whoever decided that the biomes are only allowed to look good 1/4th of the time

>>713702393
Inclemency has high potential for kino, and in some cases looks even better than plenty. Fallow is all around ass though.

I still think either P3rd or 3U was peak MH. Whilst I did love World, Wilds is just so bad, my least played MH in the entire series so that's saying something.

>>713693361
>Droth doesnt do the super twirling charge underwater that carted literally every faggot online whenever lagi was in rage mode.

RL has that same enraged charge underwater. Jesus Christ you faggots never played Tri or 3U lmao.

they will just copy paste all amatsu moves onto lagi

>>713679443 (OP)
Worst Monster Hunter AND there is no underwater combat.
MHGU already showed that Lagi without underwater simply does not work.

>>713695427
No he doesn't, they do equal damage to each other. Lagi is programmed as the "loser" because there is no actual tie mechanic in turf wars.

>>713679789
>>713680261
>>713680458
Just like how Fatalis kept the same 4 attacks in World, right? Of course the fight will be overhauled.

>>713704521
this is tokuda team lmao, fatalis was done by ichihara team, tokuda team is never good

>>713680361
Anon don't think too much about MH.
90% of the first and second gen monsters had 3run and tailspin and spit attacks leaving like one unique attack.
Even Pukei is just a Rathian with one extra move.

>>713704521
That wasn't the purpose of my post; no shit new gen monsters are re designed.
>>713704892
RIP Daisuke plz come back

>>713704065
>he doesn't lose, he's just programmed to lose

does anybody here just assume that we get old Lagi and they don't mend him into something new
Remember Alatreon, Barioth?

>>713695427
not surprising since we know he is supposed to be the Apex of the area.
I believe to remember that we had turf war ties. like Malzeno and Velk had one I think.

>>713705909
nah we got suzuki now, just gotta see if sunbreak was a fluke or not, if he could save rice maybe he can fix wilds

>>713706742
if you remove escaton ib alatreon still has a lot of things similar to old gen
>different states (fire/ice active)
>flight mode
>iceicle rain
>lightning rain attacks
>majority melee attacks are the same (claw swipe, headbutt, tail flick, double head flick, charge, dragon dive, dragon punch)

>>713704521
>he thinks the spastics behind wilds will do a laggy rework justice
you will get gen ult laggy and you will be happy

>>713708869
similar but not the same. Even the arena is quite different.
Lagiacrus will still have a static field move, sliding attacks and stuff like this, but surely it will all be way more flashy and fluid and probably more spastic

>>713679443 (OP)
I miss underwater combat...

>>713709243
did you even fight Mitzu? They managed to turn the tempered version into a serious HR threat, somehow.

Serious question, but why can't styles become a series staple? Gen, GU, Frontier and, to an extent, Risebreak have these. Does having different movesets or options for each weapon take too long to implement?

>>713711076
Yes, quality animation is expensive
a lot of the Styles were baked into Rise, which was further baked into Wilds.
Also, mainteam rarely does experimental stuff. That's usually done by Itchinose and COG
>>713706742
Because they're retards
Even old twigarms Gore is now actually a hard fight thanks to a boatload of buffs

>>713711805
if Shaggy or Chaotic Gore ever get into wilds, they are going be a fucking nightmare.

Is he in the game yet or is capcom STILL working on it

>>713712103
June 30th

>>713712103
TU2 is out monday, probably
also coming with Steve

I like steve more but Tri was my first
I think people underestimate what they'll do with lagi though; Garuga got an incredible glow up in gen 5; most monsters did
I'm sure they'll make Lagi pretty good to fight when he's not flailing on the ground because he was raped by focus strikes

>>713712317
Gen 5 Garuga is just Deadeye but not as cool and lacking saucy attacks

>Lagi without water doesn't work
>I am forgotten
Bros forgot the ivory lagiacrus from mh3u or what

>>713712317
>spoiler
I mean, they'll probably have it so their electricity goes haywire when they are flailing. After all, they made Jho attack when trapped; so a monster doing situational actions wouldn't be too out there.

>>713701902
>wtf is Crapcom smoking?

Both Lagi and Seregios were never meant to be title updates. They were unfinished and cut from the launch because Wilds is a rushed pile of shit. The majority of their data is available from the very first beta test in the middle of 2024. Lagi even has a nest area in the forest which was made inaccessible. Capcom are a joke.

>>713712317
Capcom just needs to do what they did with AT Rey and apply it to basically all of the 8 Star fights.
Wounds on AT Rey were rare enough that using a Focus Strike on it felt like a big target of opportunity, not something you just mash go on to keep a monster stun locked.

>>713712617
having to solo super ivory multiple times to make the dengeki gunlance was hell

>>713711805
>Even old twigarms Gore is now actually a hard fight thanks to a boatload of buffs
I wouldn't call confining it to the worst map in the game that it barely fits into a buff

>>713711805
"Mainteam" is consistently waaay more experimental than the portable team.

>>713714632
>in the game
Shiiieeet, why stop at that? In the entire franchise. Iceshart, Oyvey Bassin and Whyveria are the worst maps in this series.

>>713711805
>quality animation is expensive
Guess that's why Wilds doesn't have any

>>713700256
He's much faster and mobile instead of being a mollass on the land while your mobility is limited, so yeah back then Lagiacrus didn't need a large moveset to be a satisfying fight.

>>713704521
At best he will receive moves from Frontiers leviathans but I wouldn't keep my hope up.

>new update fucked over their entire pc player base
>new TU leaked and is as bare bones as the last one
>just 1 new monster and 1 arch-tempered again
how over is it for wilds?
they just keep fucking up

>>713703182
There's no need to argue. The only people that like Tri and 3U haven't actually delved into it otherwise they'd fucking hate it.

>>713706742
Nu Alatreon is objectively easier than the older ones but he's certainly more tolerable to fight.

>>713712163
>>713712182
wait what? i thought it was today

>>713718835
Today is the showcase

>>713718490
>1 new monster
we know its Lagi, Steve, AT tuna
supposedly another 'hard fight' so either another AT or guardian or just 8* but who knows if it even releases on the same day.

>>713718910
i hate capcom so much its unreal

>>713718068
I'm disappointed in Wilds but they definitely did put a lot of effort into the animations/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQX_gx3u2ug&t

>>713718490
seregios is part of title update 2

>>713717828
4U volcano says hold my beer

>>713679443 (OP)
Sweet I can't wait to stun rape him into the ground thanks to wounds

>>713680150
Cool armour and weapon
Thats it

They accidentally leaked the new render on their website lmao

>>713693254
>Guys!
>Let's remove half the entire gameplay, insert an enemy that defines itself on the removed theme, and then complain!
Haha! We win!

For as bad as people say it looks, I got a 4k HDR mini LED monitor and tried it out at max settings without fart fog enabled
And, believe it or not, the game still looks kinda dull

Why is Capcom so scared of trying water again? Kind of pissed that they had those few sections in Wilds where you auto swam under water and even had the aquatic monsters swim between zones but your character still can't do more than wade under your control..

>>713720319
I think it was planned initially
With what you said + Hirabami pretty much uses the old leviathan swimming pose
And Lagi is the underwater guy and seemed to have been planned to be in base game

>>713679443 (OP)
>lagi with out water combat

its shit

>>713720507
Probably just left unfinished due to time like the pack system

>>713720319
Introducing underwater would require too many resources, for a mechanic that only a handful of monsters would genuinely take advantage of. Plus I doubt they want to deal with the balancing issues that come from having to adjust for every weapon underwater, and some other problems like depth perception. Just to put things into perspective, Zorah was a huge drain on resources in World, and it was used for two missions.

>>713721062
And people hate Zorah?

>>713693361
The only unique m,oves Lagiacrus had were UW hipchecks and his UW aoe lightning move. It's fucking hilarious how much people dickride him.

>>713720319
its a monkey paw. It wasn't that bad but Capcom will manage to make it worse in some way.

Ideally I wish they made it so underwater would restrict certain item usage, change some weapon movesets (like if you suddenly Striker style, but also giving players new skills that made use of 3d movement).
But I know people would be pissed, either because they are at a disadvantage underwater or that they can't use their favorite skills on land, because underwater only makes up 1/10 of all fights

>>713721062
obviously you wouldn't add underwater for just one monster, that's why Zorah was such a waste of money, it wasn't reusable and hardly salvageable. Depth Perception and orientation was the biggest issue with underwater.
Not sure what the balancing issue would be, like if they cared to balance shit for GU styles. The only issues would be bugstick and all those jumping attacks that didn't existed in 3rd gen.

>>713721521
I don't know if you're asking rhetorically but yes, the "fight" was okay at best and tedious at worst. And fans became even more dismissive of Zorah when they found out how much dev time was sacrificed on a single quest.

>>713679443 (OP)
>coolest monster finally comes back after almost a decade of absence.
>Decade of absence

>>713722084
?

>>713721062
Take all the resources they wasted on the shitty story and use them to refine water combat. If only.

>>713721958
So you say
>DON'T improve the game
and
>PLEASE REMOVE anything interesting
Got it!

I hope you design my video games in 2025!

>>713722254
They only keep shitty gimmicks like mounting.

>>713682623
still going on about this years later?

>>713711805
>Even old twigarms Gore is now actually a hard fight
Like Hell he is. Gore's "buffs" were putting his ass in a miserable location to fight

>>713722168
You said Larc wasn't in MH in like a decade and that is not true, MHS came out in 2017 and MHS2 came out in 2021, both had Larc.

>>713722576
this post is so retarded it gave me cancer
They really should bring back Makili Pietru

>>713723065
Hey, it's not my fault that your never specified that you only mean MAINLINE.

>>713706147
Retard.

>>713723276
nta and nobody cares about sideline slop.
might as well mention Frontier or dynamic hunting

>>713722539
Not even that anon but you have to be actively pretending to be retarded to think Gore in Wilds isn’t massively buffed, in basically all other games he’s trivialized by poking his feet because he has no tracking

Your desperation for underwater combat to come back confuses me because it looks EXTREMELY clunky and annoying in MH3. Are you hoping they fix it? I am sure Capcom doesn't want underwater combat ever again.

>>713722219
Hey I'm with you on that one. The fact that World, Rise and Wilds could have had more monsters at launch if they didn't waste money on their gay ass stories is tragic

>>713724536
I used Great Sword.
I never had a problem.

>>713724536
its basically just land combat but slower and with a z axis, it wouldn't be very hard to "fix"

>>713724574
It's more that for some reason they feel the need to keep remaking and upgrading the models and animation. Even Rathalos/Rathian are still different from World's models lol.

>>713724536
It was an interesting change of pace where the monsters had the mobility advantage rather than the player, for once.

>>713724536
Used Switch Axe, literally raped everything underwater.

>>713721062
Maybe if they werent wasting their time on making their "living breathing" "open" world or on shit like Zorah we would already have it, dont you think?

>>713724536
>it looks
It wasnt except in few cramped area, yes moves were limited but it wouldnt be a problem today.

>>713679443 (OP)
it also debuted in one of the worst mh games. curious

>>713680314
Since neither of them are coming in, that's fine.

>>713693361
Look, we have to rage and hate and scream about Wilds any way we can so people will abandon it and it can finally die.

>>713691806
I still pray for a cut/blunt split based on weapon model. Luke the phys/special split in pokemon.

>>713723950
Nope, if they put him in the desert he'd be exactly as pissfart easy as he's always been.

>>713724536
It was clunky and annoying.
I'd like underwater movement to come back so as open more areas and see underwater small monsters but not underwater combat.

Amatsu simulates Lagi's underwater moveset by floating in the air and Almudron is half submerged in the ground to give the illusion of swimming. Wilds is going to dress up those animations.

>>713728203
My only issue real issue with underwater was on 3DS my depth perception was completely fucked and it made GS headlocking Lagi a pain.

>>713724536
Never really had much issue with it beyond dodging attacks and using the blunt weapons or the Bow.

waiting for Kirin to be added

Lagiacrus was never good.
Not on land nor in the water.

They basically stuck the gen 1 flying wyvern moveset on a leviathan and called it a day.
>turns in place doing chip
>bites at you
>hipchecks
>turns and hits you with tail
>charges to the other side of the arena
Lagiacrus' is carried by its design, the gear designs, and nostalgia.

If anything Wilds may be the first time the monster is actually good.

>>713728502
doubt it, more than likely Lagiacrus will get actual attack animations like claw swipes, rolling, and headbutting instead of being a glorified Khezu

>>713724536
Underwater combat wasn't even that bad in Tri on a lot of weapons. I played lance and switch axe and never had issues (though to be fair, lance was easily the best underwater weapon). Really they just need to let the player be faster and add more interesting attacks to some weapons. I'd they worked on underwater than push gimmicks like clutch claw, slingers, and rampages every game.

lagia was never a great fight, people like him because he's cool

>>713711805
That image made me imagine a Monsoon variant of Glavenus

>>713720571
I wonder if it will ever get to perform water combat in Wilds' life time or if it will get moves that use water element to supplement. Never mind that being shuffled to a variant.

yeah but Im not going to grind for a HR set with bonuses I dont even want in the first place. wake me up when G rank is out

yee haw

>>713736851
Jesus wtf is wrong with this game

>>713737045
8GB framebuffer moment

>>713731538
>pff, animals
>turn and bite
>chase and bite
ALL THE FUCKING SAME

>>713737045
No idea what happened there, the textures for everything else were fine.