Thread 713687263

Apologize!
https://www.stopkillinggames.com/

>>713687263 (OP)
stop spamming, buy an ad
this is going nowhere, stop the cope

>>713687298
good goy

>buy ubislop live service game
>it gets shut down
>what the fuck, this is unbelievable
Buy better games

Now people care when there is drama involved. This just makes me hate everyone involved because you need drama to even motivate people to action.

>>713687360
the average person is too stupid to think any decision they make through

>Mass Effect fans
>after 3 and Andromeda
lol

>>713687489
not really, it takes milion of subs youtubers to talk about it, litteraly no one knew about SKG after the initial 1 month push, every coverage died down immediatly

>>713687360
>holding publishers accountable is le bad because... it just is okay!?

>>713687360
There's still shortsighted retards who think its all about one game

I pirate everything, they should stop making games fucking gay tho
Still mad over ME3

>>713687360
I honestly can't tell if this is strawman bait to get people to engage with the thread or if its actual retards not understanding what this is even about.

>>713688562
Based baiters giving bumps

>>713687263 (OP)
Oh cool, more traction. Like with cramming for exams, it seems it's pretty true that hardly anything happens until the last hours.

>>713687263 (OP)
What Mass Effect fans? Maybe 100 people over obsessed with the series? Because everyone else stopped giving a fuck after 3, then came back to play LE.

>>713687263 (OP)
Not video games, fuck off.

>>713691109
Jeet

>>713687745
All gaming youtubers and streamers ignored it. It's almost like they don't care about games or they're worried about their sponsored streams.

Also, the EU petition actually requires real european ID. You can't just type a name and press ok. Too much work for zoomer generation.

>>713691803
Why do you think India cares?

>>713687360
>why do you want to keep owning your old games anon?
>just consume product and be excited for next product!

>>713692174
NTA but I think it's unfair and hasty to immediately jump to the conclusion that people outright ignored it instead of just simply not knowing about it.
The flow of information is a fickle thing and if we go by the ~500k votes, there isn't really a lot of people in youtube scales who genuinely supports this movement. It's incredibly possible, if not outright probable, that people simply didn't know.

One MMO youtuber, Josh Strife Hayes for example, only started to talk about it a month ago because he didn't know about. He started to talk about it before this current wave of youtube videos so it would be also wrong to say that it would be riding the wave.

>>713692480
exactly, they don't. that's why they have the country they have
what other third world lesson do you want to teach the hwhite man?
enlighten us

Ah yes, the organic votes. The votes that are very organic and homegrown.

Holy shit can the uninformed zoomer consuiming fucking FAGGOTS stop spreading missinformation?

This is GOOD for the consumer because it FORCES COOPERATIONS aka THE JEWS to stop supporting their games you retarded mongoloids.
This will affect EVERY
SINGLE
PUBLISHER
(even Valve)
and will stop greedy and unlawful practices

The only people who oppose this shit are either kikes, retards or i dare to say, shills paid by jews

Cr1tikal's video is the #1 trending gaming video on Youtube, does that mean there's as chance?

>>713687263 (OP)
>Dead franchise fans.
Oh no, now they will sure win!

>>713693559
No, but it will die with a bang.

>>713687263 (OP)
I don't really give a shit since I only buy and play drm free games that gives you offline installer.

>>713687263 (OP)
Yes, mold man, I signed when the campaign started. Got family members to do also.
Still, your best bet for now is to buy drm free on gog or pirate and also avoid online only games.

When the fuck did all these unironic corporate bootlickers fucking come here?

>>713692480
ubisoft india employees get paid to protect the company's interests

>>713693458
I mean it's a classic where the growth is strongest at the tail ends.

pro consumer = communism

>>713693550
You got destroyed by the Ratman, Ross.
Seethe.

>>713687298
Don't you have more young guys to ERP with, Thor?

This campaign doesn't prevent companies from delisting games right? So as long as you can still play a game you bought it's fine, but not giving the option for people to purchase a game anymore is also ok?

>>713693709
I'm glad you're beginning to understand.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LbwYHZJ1PY

you better read this. i spent 5 minutes on it.

since that fag banned me on his "channel", might as well.
why does the monkey talk about topics he can't take the heat from? moron

chet faliszek fallacies:
29:15 whaaat a fucking faggot. GET A LOAD OF THIS GUY OMG
"it's ok for a game to implode at the end. LIKE BANKSY. THAAAT'S THEEEIR RIGHT"
TELL ME THIS WAS NOT SAID.

2:45 - 4:15 he planned to make a game, by the looks of it he already BANKED on it it will do well and then he had to look for a company to provide a service for him to a) maintain long-term multiplayer and b) to help him sunset it? is that fag for real?
regulations like stop killing games would've allowed him to know he has to make it available either way and calculate that into his costs if he wanted to enter that market, otherwise it would've been a bottom feeder release anyway which he also could've used to calculate into his costs.

how could he have worked for Valve, if he exactly knew that every game they made, had dedicated server binaries for everyone to download. i really wonder what type of role he had there, certainly not technical by the looks of it and he has not extracted anything from there while he was there.

Unless he does SBMM EOMM Activision scammery, then there's no need to worry about tweaking the algo every week to min/max player levels & "their satisfaction". you create an algo for latency & rank and be done with it, then reduce parameters after N amount of minutes to not make it a forever search. there are so many possibilities. or better yet, have variables to tweak in the server software you provide.
it could be so simple.

even consolefags could potentially benefit from this and Sony and MS will get raped a new one while we're at it
Faliszek is dumb as fuck

>trying to get europeans to vote for something that isn't importing more brown people or some gay climate hoax deathcult bullshit
Good luck lil buddy.
>>713693671
Gamers are the lowest IQ people on earth and have continually voted against their best interests. They are paying for online on console, they gladly accepted the death of physical copies on PC, they accepted full-priced games having microtransactions and they fucking LOVE FOMO battle passes.
Not a single person with an IQ above 90 would ever be against this initiative (unless there's something weird in the fine print I haven't noticed). Unfortunately, that means the overwhelming majority of gaymers do not meet that threshold.

>>713693819
Who is that guy to begin with?

>>713693819
8:30 - 9:00 I see the problem now. this sort of sounds like he wants to be able to close the game but still somehow make money on the live-service aspect of the game.
well if the servers are not hosted by you but some benevolent IT admin or clan, like it had been throughout the 2000's, then you won't see a dime except for the game sales. ??
this is exactly why gamers want legislation like that. we bought it, we want to use it. the rest is inconsequential.
you don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

I wished him success for his release back in the day but any business has risks attached to it, even hospitality stuff needs to calculate how much foot traffic they need and so on. what a fucking pent up fag. it's crazy
~~~~~~

hasan, chet, pirate idiot. all these fucking commie social fags, oddly enough really worry about their bottom line. why
the more these idiots talk, the more they expose themselves for the inbred losers they are

>>713693883
ex-Valve with his own project Anacrusis

>>713694036
Even if the thing passes and they make a new law it won't force him to unfuck his online game, just like Apple not having to mass recall phones to make them USB-C

>>713693852
gaming was an emerging market you idiot. anything emerging is highly unregulated and the market with its genres is distributed enough where one individual doesn't really feel the effect of all games having it since most people stick their games/genre

Every signature is another dead batarian.

>>713694113
nobody is asking for retroactivity

>>713693714
chet is always on something in his videos and is a hasbeen

>>713693852
>have continually voted against their best interests.
Do you honestly think videogames are the only thing where it backfires amongst itself. Wait to you get into statistics and reveal a lot of inconvenient truths and the amount backlash and denial you'll get even amongst the smartest people.

>>713694224
Then why is the guy malding about something that won't affect his current online game?

>>713694036
I remember this thing, it was L4D expect with nothing that made L4D great,the trailer when they announced it was so bad and the enemies were a single textured dude copypasted with no animation rather than running and attack and the death animation was a simple: stop, radgoll, fall to the ground

>>713687263 (OP)
>Mass Effect fans

>>713694301
because he's retarded. another retarded lefty progressive who wants to stay relevant

I am no longer demoralized.

>>713694301
To improve the state of gaming in the future

>>713696424
Improve it by staying the same?

>EU attacking big tech again
No wonder why silicon valley sided with Trump.

>>713696640
please stop writing

>>713696878
So Trump's plan is to kill consumer rights? Why do people like him?

>>713688562
The point is that I will never support SKG because you should not be allowed to run your own servers for a live service game either way. It doesn't matter what excuses you come up

>>713699239
>you should not be allowed to run your own servers for a live service game either way
And why is that?

>>713699239
>you should not be allowed to run your own servers for a live service game either way
why?

Communists aren't human

>>713700428
Precisely! That's exactly why this initiative needs to gather over 1 million signatures. We can't let commies win.

Look at all these fucking commies wanting to play gachaslop forever lol

>>713693458
Nigga acting as if several videos from the biggesst drama youtubers on the platform don't give exposure

>>713700649
based commies?

>>713693852
All I'm reading is that if they gave a Fortnite skin away with each sign, gamers will flock to it giving tens of millions of votes in a week.

>>713693714
I saw that video and if he understands it he's pretending not to.

>>713694438
Does her necklace spells "Bimbo" or am I too far gone?
who is the character?

>>713699078
average americans kept shooting himself in the foot for decades thinking that eventually they'll become rich like their overlords if they keep indulging in anti-consumer practices.

>>713687360
>>713687510
>Dude if you just thought it through Capcom was going to add always online requirements to Dead Rising 2 half a decade later

>>713693550
Fun fact, Ubisoft employs Babel Media, and other contractors, to make posts about their company image!

>>713693619
You don't want more games to end up doing that? The most likely result is they dump a offline installer that then gets hosted on abandonware sites. ((Assuming they don't get out of it with some legal mumbo jumbo.))

>>713693663
What do you do about stuff like Atomfall that all material labels as a single player offline game, but secretly has always online requirements?

>>713704129
>Shooting himself in the foot
>Obscure lawsuit against a defunct anti-virus software being used as caselaw to dismiss cases through judges installed by a multi-national conglomerate of the wealthiest people on the planet.

The only person who wanted this was Charles Schwab, and he's not even American. Most of these WEF people that do this stuff are foreign nationals.

>>713704048
Fem shep, and yes it says Bimbo

>>713704882
>What do you do about stuff like Atomfall that all material labels as a single player offline game, but secretly has always online requirements?
That's bad if it does, at the very least games should clearly state this to buyers.

>>713705495
Literally none of them do, every single one of them could be sold to you, and your copy remotely bricked tomorrow.

It's a scam, and it has a big profit incentive. Want to sell a remaster? Brick the old game! Need people to buy a lackluster sequal to The Crew? Make it so they can't play it!

>>713687298
FUCK YOU YOU FILTHY FERRET FUCKING FAGGOT

Good news guys, the Concord playerbase has joined in! Next we'll get the support of the Lawbreakers fans!

>>713687751
I always felt like the best way to hold them accountable is to make them go out of business. Ubisoft deserves every reason to go out of business.

>>713706590
Yeah I don't think regulating this stuff is the right way, people should just stop buying stuff from these shit companies

>>713705746
So have any single player only games been shut down?

>>713706385
Ironically concord is an example of proper closure: they refunded everyone

>>713706590
If a company like that goes out of business you end up with thousands of workers uneemployed and the execs landing into other companies of the industry with their golden parachutes, to keep doing what they've been doing, namely increase shareholder revenue at any cost

>>713699239
companies releasing source code for their discontinued games is not only moral but also builds goodwill between them and the customer

>>713706763
Dead Rising 2: Off the Record is broken, and can't be completed unless you get a pirated pre-always online patch, then modify the files with a fan patch. Dead Rising 1 is the same deal.

They literally broke them so people would buy the remake. The slippery slope is back there dude.

>>713687360
>vote with your wallet retardation in fucking 202
I thought you retards were extinct

>daily schizo thread
besides, buy better games :)

>>713706969
That's kinda on the surviving company not to do retarded shit and hire people who will fuck them over

>>713707063
This is why I am buying on GoG or just pirating these days. It's to make sure I don't get into such situations.

>>713706969
Maybe you're not seeing the bigger picture here, I argue the only reason slimy CEOs can maximize shareholder value is by getting something out of the consumer.

I'm on the fence about this initiative because I don't believe in using regulation as a magic wand for problems we could nip at the bud instead.

In fact, I think regulation makes it harder for competition entering the market. Perhaps that's even why we're in this situation. Wouldn't we want more options to choose from instead?

>>713706979
wish this was true. AMD releases code for almost everything they do (FreeSync, FSR, ROCm etc.) and nvidia is still on top.

>>713704048
Did it not occur to you that you're a bit too far gone BECAUSE you know what bimbo says?
Or because you chose to ponder it?

>>713694438
Sauce?

>>713687263 (OP)
>Mass Effect fans JOIN StopKillingGames
>The initiative loses all future backing
Why do Mass Effect fans always think they're "in the group"?

>>713708287
What do you want me to say, anon? Like, what conversation are you trying to have here?

>>713687263 (OP)
great what is that like 200 people?

>>713708070
>I think regulation makes it harder for competition entering the market
being forced to account for an end of life plan isn't that much of a burden. If you develop with a sunset in mind it comes at no cost. Plenty of companies are already doing that regardless
It's like GDPR forcing companies to deal with privacy and security.
Sure, having to hash data instead of storing everything in plain text is a bit of extra work, but if you're not following what is the "state of the art" you're at risk of being penally liable in case of fuck ups. And if you can't afford to hash passwords, maybe you shouldn't be in the business

>>713708638
No need to say anything. Just consider that this place consumes you a lot more than you think it does.

>>713708564
Pure coincidence.

>>713708925
>Just consider that this place consumes you a lot more than you think it does.
Anon I've been here since 2009. Despite my fuckups I still managed to keep going, this site isn't anymore dangerous than your average social media rotting the normies brain.
But we're digressing, OP topic is SKG.

>>713708070
>Wouldn't we want more options to choose from instead?
naive thinking here, anon but I get your honesty.
In a perfect world we wouldn't even need this but since as you said, CEOs ARE slimy, they'll more often than not try to give the consumer either a faulty product, or a product with a timer hidden inside (Samsung and Apple planned obsolescence, Lightbulbs companies purposefully selling lightbulbs that burns after ~2k hours to keep selling them, Teslas odometers counting miles / km faster than what was actually driven to avoid warranty repairs etc)
So, taken this into account, it's only fair to get governmetns involved to protect consumers, since more often than not, people aren't literate enough to make a thoughtful purchase, hence justifying the companies half measures in the process
>people keep buying my product, let's see how further I can go with screwing them up for profit

>>713708886
Big businesses were at some point small businesses, small businesses that wouldn't be able afford to do the things regulation would compel them to do.

Like you for example, what if you wanted to get into a market? You may be under the impression that it requires a massive overhead of money, but I argue this is because of your obligations under regulation.

Do you see what I mean?

I believe that we could allow the consumer to accept the risks they are comfortable with, instead of making false promises of safety between consumers and producers.

>>713709520
Thanks for being reasonable. If I had to make a response to this, it would be that people who do not make thoughtful purchases arguably do not deserve thoughtful products. So even with this I have low motivation to entertain this lobbying.

>>713709613
that's a retarded position, it's like saying we should allow selling water with lead in it because filtering may be too expensive for new businesses
The customers are gonna figure out on their own which water at the store has lead in it, won't they?

>>713710021
I can't help but feel like people are content with their society being a daycare to sequester people from the possibility of making meaningful decisions and risk. Do you see it too?

>>713687263 (OP)
who tf cares? its only AAA GaaS slop being erased

>>713687751
>i NEED to buy this horrible corporations goods. i am their most loyal customer!!

>>713710339
I struggle to put my response together so here's a list of my thoughts
1. You are free to allow what you want to allow.

2. Selling water with lead in it could potentially be useful for purposes other than directly drinking.

3. When choosing a product at a store, you are free to exercise your discretion, the same way you don't buy a bottle of bleach and drink it because it contains water.

4. I do not believe in inherently trusting anyone to ensure my wellbeing, especially strangers.

>>713687263 (OP)
Which Mass Effect game got shut down? I'm confused on this headline.

>>713693458
yeah, that looks organic. the surges are events where influencers talked about the topic.

>>713687360
You haven't named a single way in which it'd hurt consumers, how come?

>>713711691
>I'm confused on this headline.
Clearly, because it doesn't say any of them got shut down.

Just sign it.

>>713687263 (OP)
ah so that's why it surged suddenly.

>>713712856
Why ball lumpy?

>>713710021
>If you got scammed you deserved it
literally a third worlder way of seeing things, if you want to see what type of civilization this mentality creates just look at India

>>713699239
Poor little zoomer doesn't remember the time when dedicated and community game servers were a big thing.

>>713699239
>The point is that I will never support SKG because you should not be allowed to run your own servers for a live service game either way.
LOL!

>>713693714
>>713693819
>10k subs
who?

>>713694438
Stop this shit...

>>713694438
pov: you're a space dog

>>713714256
blitzball, duh

>>713687263 (OP)
Last year when I learned of this initiative I was against it, because I believed in things like muh copyright, patents and the like.
Today I can safely say copyright and patents are fake and gay bullshit that consist of certain companies using state power to artificially maintain their market positions.
Signed the petition today
I should be able to play my games however I want, even if the company stops supporting them.
t. europoor right wing lolbertarian

>>713718684
i'm surprised people are trying to spin this into a political, left vs right thing, when in reality it offers only advantages to consumers and the only ones who might end up slightly inconvenienced by it are publishers.
>oh no, maybe people will keep playing battlefield 3 instead of buying the latest sloppa
idc? not my problem
i will own what i buy and i will be happy

>>713699239
why?

>gets over a million signatures, but not by much
>campaign ends
>they count everything and exclude the invalid signatures
>999,999