This guy is way too nice for his own good

>>713693285 (OP)
Goofy ass nigga

>>713693285 (OP)
He seen some mold...

>>713693285 (OP)
I don't know why he or anyone else isn't bringing up the fact that Thor is literally publishing a live service game right now and has a financial incentive to kill the SKG movement

>>713694527
>Thor is literally publishing a live service game
Purely a coincidence, I am sure.

>>713694525
>HE HAS
>TO MAKE
>THE MOVIE

>>713694527
wasn't he making a earthbound/undertale clone? or is that fully abandoned?

>>713694662
to him, being able to claim to be a dev and professional in the industry is probably far more important than actually releasing anything

>>713694662
Who cares, he's a shit gamedev anyway
The problem is that his company published Rivals of Aether 2, a game with always online DRM

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713693285 (OP)
>This guy is way too nice for his own good
Ross would rather move out of the way for a tranny lover who completely ran his movement into the ground and not work with asmongold because his own audience thinks he some kind of neo nazi

I think there's a word to describe this self destructive behaviour

>>713693285 (OP)
And too ugly for our own good.
Stop posting his retarded ratface.

>>713695167
he's not a tranny lover he's straight up just a homo

>>713693285 (OP)
he nearly killed the movement by not responding because "I'm not a drama youtuber" despite the fact the Mr. second puberty was straight up lying about what he was trying to do

>>713693285 (OP)
I thought his latest video, the one with the response to the ferret fucker, painted a pretty humiliating picture of him. It was good, diplomatic, but I wouldn't call it nice. Seems it was great for the SKG movement, more importantly. At this rate it'll get enough signatures.

>>713693285 (OP)
imagine blowing a lying scammer and saying he just didn't understand or know any better when he crushed a populous movement to save games from EOS rugpulls

>>713694662
He worked on it lately because Valve added a "Abandoned" status on all EA that won't update for the game in the last +12 months and his game was like way overdue on this.

>>713694527
>Thor is literally publishing a live service game
>>713694756
>his company published Rivals of Aether 2
He's just some figurehead that might as well do nothing. Offbrand games is owned by another streamer and employs a bunch of people.

>>713695243
he looks like the best type of dude to hang out with stop judging his sex appeal homo

>>713695296
it was lack luster and seemed more like he was blowing the guy. ferret fucker is a liar. hes not some dumb troglodyte retard who doesn't know any better but is just making everyone else deal with his stupidity. Hes a malicious actor deliberately spreading falsehoods

>>713693285 (OP)
Him being the face of the movement killed it

ugh he gave me the ick, when I saw his face I wanted to kill video games completely

t. femanon

>>713695265
I hate to be the one that tells you this bro but traps and trannies are gay.

>>713695401
Ross is simply too kind to call it like that without rock solid proof.

>>713695446
Did he do something controversial in the past or something?

>>713694527
is there really any person taking this furrfucker seriously? I feel like some people are against the petition out of contrarianism, some are libertarians and some are just interested in keeping vidyas how they are. I think this cunt is just a lolcow for everyone and doesn't influence thing, it seems it's agreed upon him being just a (you) generator

Gamers are the most pathetic subhuman consumer demographic in the world and they deserve this abuse.

>>713695401
and his ego is bloated that no matter what, he must. be. right. Even if he killed a dude during a live show, on national tv, he will say and spout bullshit to prove his point. His stance on SKG in the first place was (and still is) by telling himself that this is X therefor the entire thing is bad.

>>713695493
he sexted a man, not a trans or tranny, which is much gayer overall, he's just a classic homo
>>713695460
Ross is a happily married man

>>713695519
Cunt, he looks fucked.
Nobody wants to rally behind a loser.
Not even other losers.

>>713695401
I didn't get that impression. He painted him as a rude, insecure liar with poor intelligence. He just did it very respectfully, which I'd say is generally preferable. Helps not putting the target in a position of power, to be blunt, but calm.
I do think it could've been better if he did it sooner, though.
>>713695546
I really don't fucking know, it seems weird that anyone would organically support him, and him being laughed at and insulted every time I see him mentioned anywhere makes it more probable that the bulk of the opposition comes from shills.

>>713695568
>EU gamers
ftfy

>>713695616
You should never grade homos, for if one is the worst, then you might be tempted to have buttsex with the least.

>>713695616
>Ross is a happily married man
That's good, but he looks fucked.
We live in a world that almost entirely judges everything off the immediate presentation.

To try and stand against that is stupid as fuck because you're trying to go against human nature and if you're trying to go against human nature, guess what? You set off ANOTHER instinctive warning sign in humans that says "THIS MOTHERFUCKER AIN'T REAL"

>>713693285 (OP)
>wants to do something good for the Video game community
>they hate him for that
Maybe it's not worth helping those retards out

>>713693285 (OP)
Nah. Watch piratesoftware to see the buffoonery he tried to pull.

>>713693285 (OP)
His biggest mistake was not making an explanation video in simpler terms what the whole thing was about.

>>713695363
Likely the reason he goes so hard into strawmanning the petition wording as being too vague because he wants to skirt around definitions to avoid taking responsibility in his own work.

>>713695497
every video is rock solid proof. the guy has tells for all his lies. he literally cut images of his tells on the video hes apologizing for him for
>>713695590
no it isn't you fucking yid, hes LYING. he doesn't believe his own hype. thats how tells work. ferret fucker KNOWS he is guilty

>>713693285 (OP)
why does /v/ hate Mold Man? I enjoy his content a lot

>>713695839
the mold doesn't care about the outward appearance of the substrate it puppets

>>713695928
he already did

I actually want to petition to go through just so ross can experience yuropean bureaucracy where nothing will happen and his hopes and dreams shatter to pieces

>>713695664
>D-definition 2
>muh polite
it was definition 1 OBJECTIVELY

>>713695954
people enjoyed his content so /v/ has to hate it

>>713695964
I see. I haven't kept up with him anymore, but I felt like he should've done that right at the start because I saw so many people who dind't understand what it was about.

Stop spamming threads.

>>713695954
I don't know. I'm biased because I liked him since Freeman's mind and civil protection days.

>>713696036
he did it within the first 2-3 months. The problem is his channel is extremely obscure. His short video got less than 100k views and his longer video where he's explaining the goals and countering criticism also didn't have more than half a million views afaik.
He's just too obscure of a guy. This thing needed to be done through networking and pushing it via more popular channels/youtubers.

>>713695984
You'll get little argument from me there, but the way he underlined it, I think that's the assumption most people who watch the video will also get. It also goes a long way displaying a reel of ferret fucker being rude, that tends to be instantly unappealing to people, especially when done in that insecure manner.
>>713696207
I now fondly remember the episode about the guy without a shadow.

>>713696052
Altough, I support the moldman because I always welt like he did for game preservation, even if I think it's most likely lost cause and your best bet is to buy DRM free installers from GoG or just pirate.
These companies don't give a shit.

>>713696442
>These companies don't give a shit.
Well no, that's why he's going the legal route.

But I think they don't care in either direction. People bring up the "intentionally sabotaging a product so people buy the next one" angle, which is true, otherwise they'd be competing with themselves - but the type of nerd who's willing to host and visit private servers post game shutdown is barely a blip on the radar.
People running FFXI servers aren't impacting FFXIV sales. People running World of Warcraft private servers aren't impacting the actual paid servers. Hell, giving away the source code to all their earlier games habitually didn't impact id's sales in the slightest.

>>713696745
Case in point is more like shit like Call of Duty, if Activision was that petty (which it's not surprisingly, on CoD at least) could easily shut down the previous games because the new one is out to push people stuck on the previous titles because they are either nostalgic or that the game is straight up better.
And I'm pretty sure that another developers or publishers straight up did something like that but it was the small kind of games.

>>713694525
What movie, and how is he associated with mold?

he's like Louis Rossmann. they seem to have self-worth issues or are busy self-fagging like us

THOR IS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING

>>713697260
>what movie
He's been trying to make a fantasy SFM movie for years, since he's made like a dozen Civil Protection shorts and knows the software. I don't know if it's still happening.
>mold
He's had to move out of two apartments due to black mold.

He wasn't doxxed or stalked or anything to find this out, this was all in channel update videos.

>>713696939
if anything related to SKG passes, in like 10 years, i won't be able to contain my inner jew how microsoft and playstation will finally be able to justify the online fee they are charging consolefags

>>713697612
Ah I was going to ask next what was he originally known for. I do know he's an American residing in Poland too

>>713697612
>two
just what is he doing to create all of this black mold?

>>713693285 (OP)
Real world Ned stark. Too honorable for his own good

>>713697960
Not making the movie in time. It follows him like the It Follows specter.

>>713697417
>Thor
his name is Jason

>>713697752
>Ah I was going to ask next what was he originally known for
For his vidya youtube channel

>>713695616
>Ross is a happily married man
It's a shame his wife is a mentally ill "non-binary"

>almost an hour and a half rant about trivial shit
Ross must be on the spectrum.

>>713698447
>Ross must be on the spectrum.
You couldn't already tell from his inability to regulate his volume?

>>713693285 (OP)
I've never seen someone's face make such a perfect trapezoid in my life

>>713698594
His fascination with in-game maps is what clued me in.

>>713698594
>You couldn't already tell from his inability to regulate his volume?
That's for the camera, when he was doing those (bad) fan chat videos or his moon gaming series, he just sounded like a dude. I agree with his Secret World rant about most videos being delivered so dispassionately they're not worth watching.

Still definitely on the spectrum, but in an average middle-aged dude way where they've got a basement train model set or something.

>>713698447
him talking about how software should work is when i realized this guy has no idea about how systems are designed. Granted, they are bad on purpose even as far as 7, but that doesn't change the fact that he is in the dunning krueger stage of programming understanding.

>>713697960
moved to terribly renovated Polish commieblocks
they cover them in polystyrene and install airtight windows, but no ventilation

all moisture gets trapped in the walls, so unless you air out your house like 5 times a day (completely defeating the point of insulation), you get mold
if your neigbours don't bother, too bad, the moisture permeates the walls and you still can get mold even if you air properly and have dehumidifier

>>713698447
this video is better than most game dungeons he's made in the last five years.

>>713698879
Shut the fuck up tinkertranny

>>713695167
Where are you even getting this idea that Ross refuses to associate with Asmon? He comments on him positively in the video and left positive comments on the gay reaction video Asmon made months ago.

>>713698879
Being able to describe what he wants still puts him in the top 1% of clients.
It's just the "how" he didn't quite get, but that's fine. Fun video.

I can't decide if Baldies, Bip Bop 2 or Armed and Delirious are my favourite videos of his.

>>713698959
>you dont like broken ui and flatshit tinker tranny tinker tr-
shut up
>>713699028
Hes not going to be commissioning an OS. are you a programmer?
>>713699107
https://youtu.be/CLk64lmMtF0?feature=shared
this is easily the best, followed by dungeon siege.

>>713698447
>Ross must be on the spectrum.
you are only noticing that now?

>>713698749
That says a lot about his taste in games in general. Games being preserved is great, but being able only walk around in them is fine. Almost every time he praises a games level-design it's because of theming, not how the layout affects gameplay. He dislikes Doom including ep1 because the maps are too intricate.

He'd probably prefer rail-shooters over classic FPSs

>>713693285 (OP)
He knows that if he acts in any way bad or accuses anybody of being a retard/shill they can write it him off as "toxic" and not have to address the issues. His detractors already straight up lie about his personality.
>>713695446
there would be no movement without him because nobody was autistic enough to get pissed about it

>FURRY PEOPLE NOT GOOD
>FURRY PEOPLE NOT GOOD
>FURRY PEOPLE NOT GOOD
>FURRY PEOPLE NOT GOOD
>FURRY PEOPLE NOT GOOD

>>713693285 (OP)
I can't get over his asymmetrical beard

>>713699001
NTA but I watch all of Ross's video chats and he specifically said he shut down communications with Asmon after the statements he made on Palestine. Ross is probably the most apolitical YouTuber of all time, so he made it very clear it wasn't a moral thing. He just had the common sense to know that it would be bad publicity for the campaign

>>713695243
if he was 25 and hot he would have gotten the 1 mil signatures already

>>713699248
The image is mirrored.

>>713698447
he's a based autist

>>713699242
>"Is it saying... furry people not good?"
>"Eh turn it off, this is weird"

>>713699194
WELCOME TO CARNEVILLLL

>>713698349
Anon... the post quoted already answers that

for some reason I thought the Initiative was final for the end of this month not next month, holy shit I believe in the Mold Man once more.

>>713699445
I love the one where he's a housewife

>>713699107
2014-2020 Accursed Farms was hit after hit. Polaris Snowcross, That Ski Game, Chosen: Well of Souls, Rama, nothing but greats. Bozo's Night Out of all things.

I wish he'd channel into that energy more often, use the game as a launching point to talk about the Piggyback Bandit and unsolved dead bodies and such, a lot of his recent ones are the more garden-variety "plot recap and edited let's play" youtuber go-tos, most recent great video was Trackmania.

>>713699501
I liked his video on Culpa Innata. Gave me a bit of that Deus Ex video vibe.

>>713699501
The Trackmania video was amazing. I'd never have put a post-apocalyptic scenario together in my head.

>>713699501
He said, with his Culpa Innata episode, he was specifically trying to harken back to the Deus Ex Game Dungeon days where he would discuss wider speculative fiction topics

Reminder that Ross is indirectly responsible for the Roblox oof sound effect getting removed

>>713693285 (OP)
He wished some super popular and well connected guy would take the torch but sheep gonna sheep and mr mold had to do it himself to predictably shoddy results but I can't blame him for trying.

>>713698390
proof?

>>713693285 (OP)
>Wants to start a movement
>Dresses and grooms himself a bare step above homeless
I wonder why the movement failed

To this day Ross' biggest blunder is the Revenant video. Feel free to improve me wrong.

>>713699830
She had they/them pronouns on her Twitter account, but they're not there anymore. Once again demonstrating how non-binary shit is just an attention-seeking phase. This is a grown woman in her 40s though

SHOOTS ROPES OF WOLF SEED

>>713699895
Homeless Ross is peak THOUGH?

>high iq sperg is right and wants to improve something
>people make fun of sperg instead of helping out
that's why spergs usually stay in their basement away from normies

>>713693285 (OP)
*was

>>713693285 (OP)
More big names on YouTube and twitch should have hopped onboard with his campaign but they were probably afraid of being blacklisted from keys by game publishers

>>713695839
>imagine knowing to be so objectively wrong you start to "argue" like a child
I can't even laugh at you, this is just too pathetic.

>>713695839
I think he'd rather take fashion advice from his wife rather than some guy on 4chan

>>713700036
Is this one of those eceleb skits where he meets his evil twin?

>>713699963
At least he was just bad at that game, which is fine, and it was still a fine video since it was just half enjoying the voice acting/art and indulging in map autism. Convinced me to play the game, it was pretty baller.

Him being a primarily retro gamer and yet suffering through the entirety of Quadralien with the most obvious unlocked FPS issues of all time was just embarrassing.

>>713700069
Or in his case, move to Eastern Europe

>>713696745
That is true, but I mean game companies don't give a shit about preserving their games.

>>713700253
MOON GAMING

>GAMING... ON THE MOON

>>713694662
>earthbound/undertale clone
Undertale is nothing like Earthbound.

>>713699194
>>713698749
Yeah, but I get him, I have that a bit on me as well, I like interesting looking environments to look at in games.

>>713699323
>>713699242
kek

>>713700253
>Evil Ross?! I thought you were banished to the bad games zone?!

YOU AND YOUR GAMES ARE DEAD

>>713700571
I believe, whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you...Moldier.

>>713700682
>not "strainier"

PEWDIEPIE!
MAKE A VIDEO SUPPORTING SKG, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

>>713700973
this

>>713693285 (OP)
He does seem like a genuine good person you'd like to have as a friend. I guess he can't even begin to conceive how someone can act the way the roach does, full of lies and deceit for no apparent reason.

Kiwis helping.

>>713695296
There's no way it can retain this rate even for just a month, there's not enough edrama to keep that momentum. I doubt the blizzard pedo guy is even the reason momentum was lost though it didn't help

>>713695363
>worked on it
>pushed an update that changes a single inconsequential file so as to do the bare minimum of not being considered "abandoned"

>>713700973
Kek

>>713699761
...what? QRD?

>>713701537
>I doubt the blizzard pedo guy is even the reason momentum was lost though it didn't help
Few other big youtubers, moistcritikal for example, have admitted that the reason they didn't run videos to support it was because of mcnepobaby.
I don't see it succeeding either, short of a viral social media trend, just because it's EU signees only and there's just a giant language barrier there since brits don't count anymore.
But being 120k short is a hell of a lot less depressing than 500k short.

>>713701537
Upon linear examination, I see your point anon, but a lot can still happen. More drama can be stirred from his latest video, there could be other responses, or just the state of the initiative having only one month left prompting more attention from people due to some last hour, fomo shenanigans.

Why does he defend the piRATe so hard?

>>713702143
same corporate tard wrangler or some shit

>>713693285 (OP)
He’s cool but he’s also a spineless faggot with no teeth “I’m so grown up I’m not a drama tuber” ok faggot well congrats on not defending your own fucking movement from the lying furfaggot and letting yourself get run over. “If we kill our enemies, we lose!” Energy. Loser

>>713702143
Same talent agency. They're coworkers.

being way too nice is a flaw of the superior White man
but since its the only creature with a soul on the planet its understandable

>>713702143
Night Media talking points, I would assume.

LMAO wtf goes on in Ross' bedroom, poor guy

>>713702271
watch Penguins of Madagascar you fucking idiot

>>713702271
whitetards are currently bombing iran and genociding palestinians, albeit.

>>713693285 (OP)
the gothic guy

>>713702362
Those are mutts (jews).

>>713702298
I literally do not care about Ross' sex life, he can do whatever he wants there.

>>713702426
Same it's just funny

it's currently like 4 signatures a second, Christ. Wonder how many of them will be thrown into the trash though

>>713702518
It doesn't automatically get checked with EUs id database?

>>713702143
he doesn't, did you even see his videos?

>>713702518
unless someone is botting, I don't expect more than 1%-2%

>>713702143
asmongold is the fence-sitting GOD of safe takes

>>713693285 (OP)
Spam this shit on another board, Eurocucks.

Nah, he is just the right amount of nice.
Now even more people are alienated from the roach, and there are more and more people chiming in helping him, and that is happening because he is a nice guy.
Even if it fails this time, the next time anyone picks it up, its going to get that much easier to drum up support.
Look at Rossman doing the same thing with right to repair, took him years to get any tangible success. He by his own admission failed many times, and did not rely on other people enough. And now the rtr movement actually has capable people working for it. Same with this. Even if it fails now, more people are interested in it than ever.

>>713702143
he's a fucking kike, a corporate in plant, he even admitted for being a fucking satanic piece of shit. he's not even a dev and he acts as if hes not a consumer or never bought and owned shit. not even from consumers prospective. what a fucking weirdo kike he is. also contrarian on purpose. why the fuck pieces of shit watch this shit? they are spambots or something?

>>713702680
W

>>713702616
hello asmonkikenstein how are you doing.

People say that Rivals of Aether 2 has an online only DRM system.

...does that mean you cannot play it in locals without an internet connection, or just do regular couch versus? How do you make a fighting game, a genre that is literally carried by people playing it OFFLINE in person for multiple years...and not include that?

why the fuck retarded streamers reacting to penguinz0? this world is fucked

Malda- I mean Thor is like a mixture of DSP and Yandere dev only that he has an actual audience, which honestly confuses me, I don't understand how anyone can watch him

>>713693285 (OP)
Thor won.

>>713701689
he is the oof kid

>>713702143
>(((Night Media))) hide their roster now
fucking lel

>>713702518
Has there ever been a time in recent history where petitions have achieved anything?

>>713702926
It's just inertia at this point. People who haven't heard what an idiot he is who already watched him before and still do.

This board is infested with leftist faggots who can't take a single minute to see if the random comment they now believe is true

>>713703046
youtube also hides comments that criticize it, i wrote one and my comment got hidden, very weird

>>713693285 (OP)
Daily reminder that Thor guy ran like a bitch in a hardcore WoW server leaving two of his friends to die.

>>713703057
In the EU? All the time. Drinking Water Directive, soil policy framework, glyphosate ban, cage farm prohibitions, all done through petitions.
America not so much. Caylee's Law I guess.

>>713702362
what's the bad thing?

He should have spoken actual industry professionals instead of doing everything himself. He give no actual solution, he just says about fining the companies. Fine how much? If the fines are lower than it costs to make an offline version of a game, the devs will just tank the fine. What about indie companies that can't afford to pay a big fine?

If the current trend continues, we will have maybe 35,000-40,000 new Signatures. That actually kind of impressive. Hopefully the drama continues or all the streamers and so on will do reaction videos. and some other youtuber will make videos on their own for the cause. 34 days is enough to push it over.

>>713703421
neat

>>713703462
He wasn't specific enough
His initiative should have included provisions to put managers and beancounters in concentration camps

>>713701689
Ross uploaded a review of Messiah, which incidentally showed off how it's the origin of the oof sound effect. A couple days after he uploaded the review, the fact that Messiah is the origin of the oof sound effect became viral, which caught the attention of Messiah's sound designer, Tommy Tallarico (total fucking rabbit hole nutcase btw) who C&D'd Roblox and got it removed. If Ross hadn't made that accidental discovery, it wouldn't caused that chain reaction

>>713703057
You can check the CI website, they document what they've done with successful initiatives.

>>713703462
>He should have spoken actual industry professionals instead of doing everything himself.
Yeah that was a little silly. He definitely has gamedev viewers, too, which makes it sillier.
But he was kinda winging it and didn't want to do it in the first place.

>>713702362
and?

>>713703057
Has there ever been a time in recent history where "just ignore it" has achieved anything?

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713703728
covid

im only signing if im signer 1,000,000
so get it to 999,999 and ill finish the fight

>>713702143
He doesn't know what the initiative really is and whenever there is anything technical he'll fence sit as to appear neutral and "based" but he got shown up yesterday defending Piratesoftware who was objectively in the wrong, misrepresented SKG and insulted Ross then Asmon goes ahead and pauses the video he's reacting to, to repeat the same misrepresentation that Piratesoftware said stop killing games wanted about keeping wanting publishers to keep servers online permanently, not once has that ever been stated, the only person who has ever said that is Piratesoftware but Asmon took the stance that SKG needed to make it clear they didn't want that, when they DID make it clear in big bold letters.
If only he paid attention to the Moist video he was reacting to instead of pausing every 30 seconds to interject his own 'take', he wouldn't have been shown up as a retard.

>>713703665
I didn't even know that. F for oof.

>>713702616
>he doesn't, did you even see his videos?
Have you watched his livestreams? He kept defending him yesterday and banned people who criticized him for it.

>>713703815
master queef

At last, I now see with open eyes...

>>713701643
He's basically operating on Patreon WEG laziness except his game has already been kickstarted with the goal reached and it's been nearly a decade and it's barely half done.

>>713703943
u wanna 1v1 me?
u wanna 1v1 me?
u wanna 1v1 me?

>>713703665
And that I'm guessing led to the hbomberguy video?

>>713704010
Yes sir. I was sad hbomberguy didn't give Ross a little mention in the video

>>713703462
>He give no actual solution
He's not supposed to. The whole point of the initiative is to gather customers who feel that they're wronged. Then the EU will gather representatives of the initiative, lawyers and the opposition (game companies) and everything would be discussed over the course of a year.
>he just says about fining the companies
IF they fail to comply.
>What about indie companies that can't afford to pay a big fine?
99% of indies are not making GaaS slop so they won't be affected.

>>713703465
>34 days is enough to push it over.
It is, but it heavily relies on this being pushed by e-celebs. People won't individually just naturally find this thing and give it a vote. The whole thing was stagnant since January.

>>713702298
Elaborate on your post on why it relates to Ross in any way

>>713703993
fight me at PAX

>>713703462
literally not his job to be the actual lawmaker lmao

>>713702143
>wow fag sucks the cock of Blizzard's toilet cleaner
no surprise here

>>713703928
>yesterday
Yes, I checked when he started talking about it. He didn't defend PS at all, if anything he criticized him and said he wants for this thing to succeed.
If he was banning people he was probably banning spammers who kept shitting on him for not covering it immediately instead of at the end of stream. Which is understandable.

>>713693285 (OP)
>nice
>manipulated people into thinking a campaign that only benefits corporations is good for consumers

>>713702926
his name is Jason, not Thor

>>713704379
That's his wife

>>713703421
>Drinking Water Directive
>yuros have to be petitioned and directed to drink water

>>713704573
but enough about Thor

>>713695568
Maybe in the current year but this would have been different had it happened in the mid-2000s

>>713703462
>no actual solution
He provided the outline of a solution, the rest would be up to the lawmakers. What, do you expect every citizen's initiative to include specifics down to the every small number and detail? Shit like this would never work.

>hideous dicktree

>>713694525
but both were already true before i looked at the post?

>>713704501
Asmongold despises WoW though, he's a XIVfag

>>713704374
>Then the EU will gather representatives of the initiative, lawyers and the opposition (game companies) and everything would be discussed over the course of a year.
They will read it, write a response and then close it. They're not going to do anything with it.

>>713695954
It's mainly corpo shills and contrarians that dislike Ross.

>>713704954
New legislation was made in most CI cases.

>>713704954
This isn't murrica, EU is actually pretty good with citizen initiatives

>>713704379
His wife's Twitter yeah
I'm not surprised tho, polish women are freaks, dated one

>>713704954
>They will read it
good
>write a response
even better

We're on track to 100k signatures in 48 hours, bros.

>>713705246
>>write a response
Your letter has been read fully, and your thoughts have been inputed and accepted for better improvement. Thank you for your time and efforts.

>>713703974
You can't just notice things like that anon.
The guy simply hates the initiative for appearently no reason at all!

>>713694527
>I don't know why he
Because it contradicts Thor's "it's impossible" narrative. They already have a EoL plan.

>>713704954
Even American politicians aren't THAT bad, or at least not that dismissive - the trouble is that even when the Senate is all-in on a petitioned movement, everything stalls in the House because those guys don't get off their ass for anything.

>>713704954
This is not a petition. The EU has many, many faults; it is a socialist shithole and we are in steady decline with nothing good to look for and failing life standards. Maybe a civil war with all the migrants if not outright submission. But when it comes to clapping the ass cheeks of big corporations, the EU is actually decent.

>>713695981
I don't think he'll be involved with any of the official parts either way. He said this entire campaign has been exhausting and he hated doing it

>>713695519
The other anon is just focused on optics, but the reality is that not engaging in drama to garner constant attention was a bad move.
Because of that, after all the current drama settles down, the movement will likely still fail. So long as PirateSoftware just doesn't continually badger Cr1tikal and Josh, or those two get uninterested in the drama, the current "wave" of signatures will stifle and stop altogether.
Right now, there's a month and four days left to secure the necessary signatures. They need what, 450K more? 400K more? If the drama ends this week and we hit say 300K signatures left (very generous number), there would be 5 weeks left to gather the remaining signatures.
You would need to get 60,000 signatures a week to meet the requirement.

>>713702143
Roaches defend roaches.

>>713693285 (OP)

>>713705337
Good. Now get us to 1 million signatures so that the EU can write this.

>>713705403
>pic
Based. That's what developers should do instead of just bricking games and getting away with it.

>>713698879
What did he get wrong?

>>713703974
A game like Rivals of Aether 2 doesn't even have anything to fear from SKG at all.
What would they lose from just enabling LAN?

>>713705506
>Because of that, after all the current drama settles down
Pirateguy has a lot of people out to take him down a peg and the recent string of debacles has given them a lot to bring up.
It'll die down. But it'll take more than just a week. And the more people bring up his grooming scandals and undisclosed business interests, the safer target he becomes for youtubers who are absolutely not above drama videos.

>>713705639
it's too long ago to remember.

>>713704954
The EU wouldn't pass on an opportunity to dick down big tech

>>713705676
Nothing, but Thor doesn't know that because he didn't bother with reading what the initiative is for. He just probably saw the first few sentences and made up his mind about something else.

>>713695667
The reason why there isn't any petition like that in the US is because US law is clear about gamers being cattle with no rights.

>>713705506
It will heavily depend on if some other big youtubers get in and if streamers do their typical reaction videos bullshit. I say there is a 20-30% chance we will reach the goal.

>>713705783
So it's from an old video?

>>713705506
hard agree.

>>713699419
It literally doesn't mention videogames at all but ok bud

>>713696036
He did. His biggest mistake is that retards like you exist. Retards who just make something up and then confuse their imagination with the real world. It's impossible to reach you faggots.

>>713705860
huh? no, its from the OS rant video. im not going to rewatch it just to debate you thoughever.

>>713702298
>>713705212
>ross gets pegged
i like him even more now. don't knock it til you try it.

>>713705212
So what ethnicity is even left for women that aren't freaks?

>>713705297
rookie numbers, i want this thing to skyrocket waaay past the threshold

>>713705912
This website is entertainment.

>>713696036
those are called crowd warmers and useful idiots, parroting wrong opinions someone fed to them on purpose to get retards like you to ignore and go back to sleep.

>>713698447
He was completely right in that video though I recall
You shouldn't have to mash Ctrl + C like three times every time you copy a line of text, to ensure it's actually copied. But if you press it just once, it might not work.

GUIs are slow and sluggish now, too. Everything has animations.

Do you want him to win? No? Then tell your parents/friends/co-workers/whatever to sign.

>>713698879
>I would like this user interface to work in a different way
>this guy has no idea about how systems are designed
Wanting buttons to be different has nothing to do with understanding programming, you dunning krueger piece of shit.

>>713702876
>People say that Rivals of Aether 2 has an online only DRM system.
It doesn't
>>713705403

>>713705951
Good question.
Are Polynesian women freaks?

>>713705506
While you are probably correct, the Amber Heard lawsuits and the Titanic sub story proves that keeping a population fully engaged with a single topic is definitely plausible.
It will probably die down, but they could secure some sort of campaign with youtubers to keep the embers burning for a single month. If the people vote and then forget about it by the end of the next month, it's still good.

>>713695568
Hey PirateSoftware

>asmonshill made a video about it
>he even included the link to the petition AND to the video of ross explaining the entire thing in the description
maybe i was too harsh on him

>>713705930
If he's wrong I'd like to know it. Don't you remember any specifics of what he got wrong, or just the general area?

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713704834
Gamers of the mid-2000s are still there, all 100 000 of them.
Everyone else is just a parasitic casual seeing video games as food needing to be consoomed

>>713706135
They're mostly obese

>>713706140
The problem is this drama is mostly English-speaking and not all EU citizens follow English-speaking drama.

its over

>>713706015
>i would like the user interface to work in a magical way that appeals to my autism
shut the fuck up and install everything.exe ross.

>>713698447
>It's just making everyone's workflow 460% slower

Imagine a world where windows 11 didn't brick being able to hold down the windows key, and hit 1-9 to open your taskbar applications.

Do you have any idea how much worse GUI is getting, and how quickly?

>>713706449
Here we go again.

>>713706305
>if hes wrong I'd like to know
then watch the video and decide for yourself.

>>713706372
Yeah, it either needs some sort of gigantic drama, something that transcends countries (which is extremely unlikely unless some company fucks up big time adding fuel to the fire) or it needs to find popular and local EU youtubers who spread awareness.

>>713706150
He's made a career out of not having strong opinions on anything.

>>713706449
>it was a great movement
It was a wildly unsuccesful movement.

>>713706449
>having to resort to big bad 4chan scaremongering
they are afraid

>>713699194
I mean, Doom Ep1 had theming. John Romero said that his levels "kinda looked like what they were going for, but not quite".

Generally, if a level is called "TOXIC REFINERY", it damn well better not look like a fucking library.

>>713706541
I don't know anything about programming, so I wouldn't know what I was looking for

>>713706479
I'm on win11 and this works, but then again, I am using shell mods and patches and a stable unupdooted thing, but i almost feel like that is a requirement to use windows at all past xp

>>713699351
Weird ass reference.

>>713706449

>Kotaku

They're no longer relevant.

I barely know anything about this thor guy and I don't care to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoPZ783uWW8
But have this

>>713706449
>Here's why consumer rights are BAD

>>713706449
>Kotaku
Dead slop-rag.

Ugly alien looking motherfucker.I'm not signing anything

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

Ross might be more hairy than the ferret furry.

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713693285 (OP)
I don't care
MAKE MORE GAME DUNGEONS MONKEY

>>713693285 (OP)
Who?

>>713706013
I'd rather side with a furry than people who must want to blindly buy anti-consumer products and fuck up the industry.

>>713705506
His problem is that he's basing his entire appeal to the EU... In fucking ENGLISH. He's genuinely not the brightest.

>>713707008
you got your script confused there, buddy

>>713706449
It took them year to turn on it

>>713693285 (OP)
I just realized the whole StopKillingGames would stop the creation of so many gachas

>>713706615
That's even worse, so that means this shit is supposed to work, but it's just broken on this update somehow. User interface is a afterthought to these people.

>>713706726
It's simple, they get advertising money from global megacorps, not gamers. So they don't care about what the consumer wants.

>>713707048
He's also asking the EU to fight for themselves instead of requiring the US to help them but it's never happening

>>713707221
I already support it you don't have to keep selling it to me.

>>713707221
Why are you stupid?

>>713707221
2/10 b8 m8

>>713707048
It's the closest he's gotten to progress since campaigning, can't blame him for leaping on a doomed ship if it's at least heading towards the destination.
Still might've made some headway in EU circles if it didn't get smear'd so early in. Couple of big youtubers run a piece on it, the sort of youtubers who have those fan captioners where they somehow have German/Swedish/French etc fanbases, gets picked up by local language youtubers who see a bit of relevancy in it, it's not an insane hypothetical progression of events.
Way too late now, though.

>>713706449
Do you have archive link or screenshot of entire article to see they are saying? Or any link if it's actually real.

>>713694527
This.

Thor is a corporate plant.

>>713702616
>>713704569
>he doesn't, did you even see his videos?
yes I watched him do it live multiple times, and when it got to a point that shows the Rat as indefensible he starts making up excuses for him, deflecting, feigning ignorance etc
same shit with the WoW thing

>>713707127
No, no I don't.
The problem with supporters is that they don't understand that developers aren't their friends. They will take the absolute cheapest and safest option available to them that also allow them to retain their software and that includes proprietary server software which is a wholly separate thing from the IP for the game.
In this case it would be simply dating their products and announcing it before release and/or not adding any multiplayer component to it.

Needless to say I'll never support a campaign like this as long as it enables anti-consumer practices and regression of the industry.

>>713698749
He was born too late to be an explorer in a world run by homosexuals.

>>713693285 (OP)
And I know things now
Many valuable things
That I hadn't known before:
Do not put your faith
In a cape and a hood
They will not protect you
The way that they should
And take extra care with strangers—
Even flowers have their dangers
And though scary is exciting
NICE IS DIFFERENT THAN GOOD

>>713707221
It wouldn't... That's the thing

I just find it funny that Ross was being as chill about the whole thing as possible and somehow still caused the funny ferret fella to have a life-ruining meltdown.
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bl_L8GFnbM

>>713702143
>Friendly fire will not be tolerated

>>713707703
Did he really have a meltdown or is it like a 4chan
>I'm going to say they're angry to convince other people that they're angry
Thing? Because I haven't seen any screenshots of him seething.

>>713707460
my youtube shorts feed was completely full of this retard at some point
i've never watched his videos, i didn't even know who the fuck he was, but the youtube jews seems to have been boosting this nigger really hard

>>713707270
That's the funny part, he's not asking them. His hour long ramblefest of a video is entirely in english with no effort in translation. There's like one english speaking EU country, and that's Ireland, I'm not even sure they actually speak english come to think of it.

>>713707384
I can almost guarantee that those local language youtubers don't even know he or his campaign exists. He's pretty much botched the movement from being so complacent about it, but he can't really be blamed for that, not a lot of people have experience running campaigns like this, and video games are starting off with a disadvantage because politicians don't give a fuck about them to begin with.

>>713707460
>>713707825
its because he's part of Night Media along with asmongold which is why asmongold softballed him

>>713707338
>>713707338
>>713707675
you really think Mihoyo would make a gacha that you can later play offline? HA! That's what I mean.

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713707825
Same and I knew he'd crash out like this from day 1, you can feel the smug aura off this faggot, the moment he'd leave his echo chamber he'd get exposed and it happened with the wow raid thing

>>713706541
>he's wrong!!!
>oh, he is? how so?
>he just is!!! do the research yourself!!!
>well I watched the video and I don't see where he was wrong, could you tell me?
>no, he's just wrong!
It's all so tiresome with circular faggots like you who cannot explain themselves, keep your mouth shut next time lil' sissy.

>>713699895
literally any well groomed grifter could have mantled the cause

>>713707787
he went back and deleted a bunch of shit, then immediately 180ed and started playing the "people are mean to me when I'm just trying to be reasonable :(" card when he was going full balls out "fuck you and I'm not going to talk to you" towards Ross before. I'd say that qualifies. He knows he fucked up and is in a damage control spiral.

>>713693285 (OP)
>Shut down his beloved game
>Man dedicates his life to ensuring it never happens again
Archetypical story

>>713706135
If they aren't their families are. Like latinas with twice the fat, half the tits and enough arrogance that makes you want fuck off to another country entirely.

>>713708243
You just know when you see a true hero.

>>713707949
>locked their lists behind a paywall after this post
Shut it down

>>713707949
every time

>>713698447
>trivial
>Millions of computer users have had the same UI/UX since the Apple II
I think this is the most damning piece of evidence against the modern user experience.
>>713698879
>when i realized this guy has no idea about how systems are designed.
Who cares? Honestly, what does programming knowledge have to do with getting upset that:
- the close window button is still this tiny thing beside three or four other buttons
- you can't turn off the X button on chrome tabs because the developers decided nobody wanted that
- in 2025, you STILL have minimal customization tools and the search bar still gives you useless internet adverts
I'm a programmer and I've spent weekends optimizing things, making it so that I can launch any program with a shortcut, aliasing things in shell, putting macros and layers on my ergo keyboard, and I would not trust myself to design an OS GUI by myself, I'm too far gone.
>>713706471
>i would like the user interface to work in a magical way that appeals to my autism
There's nothing magic about radial menus and gesture controls, two solutions he proposes in the video while providing existing implementations of. God, Black & White and Sacrifice both had sick radial menus and they were released decades ago.

>>713708243
Doomed to failure because he's idealistic in a world that doesn't play by narrative rules, or he'd realise he needs to speak the language of business to get this done.

>>713707956
milk the whales then sell an offline mode when you want to stop supporting it.
easy fucking money.

>>713702143
>Retard doesn't actually research anything and runs his mouth
>This retard also doesn't research anything and runs his mouth
>"I'm not wrong, I'm never wrong, I'm just criticising what is that illegal now?, I go to 4chan guys I know more than you, nobody is really listening to me I know more, you just don't like pirate that's it"
He really is a redditor through and through

>>713706584
I agree. But it was too abstract for ross.

>>713702143
He dosen't.

>>713698447
Don't forget, Apple isn't any better: https://tonsky.me/blog/good-times-weak-men/

>>713708414
you can probably still trace it all through employment socials like linkedin for particular individuals you suspect but privating the lists is funny

>>713706449
It's just like that ethics in journalism thing.

>>713708598
>the same solution has been useful and popular for over 40 years
>clearly this means it's bad
You're retarded.

>>713708636
It is questionable if getting involved in the drama would help that much. Yes, sure, we would likely see some boost but how long would it last? Let's say that instead of 460k, we would have 600,000 signatures. Maybe the fact that we are close to the end of the campaign with the drama may benefit it more. It will hopefully remain in the forefront. Some streamers could make some campaign for it with banners and links... that would be nice. Ross did say something about having someone willing to pay for some marketing that would likely be money well spent. Likely better than youtube ads as any normal person use adblock and retards who do not will likely not bother to sign anythyng.

What are (You) anons' favorite "the companies wouldn't do that" moments?

>>713693285 (OP)
Everyone who supports SKG would never pass the breakfast test

>>713707974
>>713708598
see >>713705930

>>713709224
The what?

Stupid movement. The only way to stop "live service" slop shovelware from being launched and shut down within a year is to stop consuming "live service" slop shovelware.

>>713698447
Thinking on this more, I think I understand why OS GUI's are stagnant.
There's a phenomenon where if one sprinter breaks a time record, everyone starts breaking it because they know it's possible now. I think there's an opposite effect, where everyone is successful with the same strategy, so nobody tries anything different(If it ain't broke...). The issue is that fixing a problem or trying a new approach has a cost with an uncertain benefit, basically it's risky, and we've trended away from the idea of being risky in the last few years.
However, when we become too complacent we can miss obvious solutions. Static-Site generation is a big example where everyone suddenly forgot for years that we can just generate html bundles and serve them on a file server.
>>713709058
Yeah, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
>>713709270
Okay.

>>713709329
>just vote with your wallet bro
i can't believe retards still think this ever works

>>713709329
Funny. In my experience that doesn't do shit.

>>713707523
>clearly pro-consumer no matter how you slice and dice it
>n-n-no i-i-it's anti consumer
>pls believe me bro
Do you ever look into the mirror and feel at least a little bit of shame for lying with every word that finds it's way out of your head? I'm seriously asking, I know serial liars but even they aren't as blatant as you lot.

>>713709396
>Yeah, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
It's pretty strong evidence.

Let me ask you this: do you really think no one in the last 40 years has tried to change or reinvent the gui? That no unit testing has been done on other schemes? Is that honestly what you believe?

Computer GUIs haven't significantly changed for the same reason the shape of the fucking wheel hasn't changed.

>>713709314
>'How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?'
He's calling you a nigger, indirectly.

>>713709627
Oh why not just use the trolley test then?

What games are we rallying to the defense and preservation of specifically?
Like every notable MMO out there either has private servers or has one in active development by a team of dedicated autists regardless of legality. WoW is going to be playable forever whether or not Blizzard likes it.
Other than Ross’ favorite car game and Darkspore I don’t know what other singleplayer games that were left in an unplayable state you could get people riled up over either.
I agree with Ross but also think the reason there’s been so much trouble with SKG getting traction is there hasn’t been a big enough inciting incident to really turn heads.

>>713709329
That's not going to work, too many slop consoomers for that to work.
You can ignore them on the personal level, but my worry is all games being online only in the future, even purely singleplayer ones. We already are going this way with Steam and other launcher stores forcing to use them to play many of their games.

>>713709627
Ironically the first poster would fail said test

>>713709673
Different problem, trolley is about ethics usually the breakfast thing is being able to comphrend things that have no happened

>>713709270
What? If you have nothing to say, don't open you stupid fucking faggot mouth.

>>713700973
PewDiePie is not in the top 10 most subbed anymore. It has to be mr beast or bust.

>>713709532
>>713709498
Yes turns out most people don't care because they don't get addicted to video games and don't play the same shit for half a decade.
Demanding that governments pass legislation so the 99th percentile of turbo autists can keep playing their bing bing wahoo into their retirement is some peak first world problem bullshit.

>>713709909
Too many little kids that won't be able to sign if you go for Mr. Beast.

>>713709768
Why do retards like yourself feel as though its necessary to speak your mind?

>>713709768
I think you could add WarCraft 3 there.

>>713709798
Ah right I understand now.
Thank you anon.

>>713709909
PewDiePie has a large European audience and his views mostly depend on what kind of videos he makes. His linux video has 6M.

>>713709768
>Like every notable MMO out there either has private servers or has one in active development by a team of dedicated autists regardless of legality
There is currently no way to play the best version of TERA Online, the only private servers are using leaked server code which only works with the latest versions of the game which is garbage.
All efforts to reverse-engineer the early versions of the game have failed.

>>713710042
just name one example

>>713709979

>movement is about allowing people to being able to play shit services games after devs milk the shit out of the pay pigs and it shuts down
>doesn't stop devs microtransaction bullshit
>doesn't hurt copyrights
>all devs really have to do is make the game P2P
>somehow this is bad
Can someone explain to me why the gay furry hate this?

>>713709904
if you want a place where you can delete posts you don't like go here
>>>/reddit/
newnigger

>>713709768
it's the principle that counts, dummy
maybe the game worth preserving hasn't been created yet
the groundwork needs to exist BEFORE it's too late, not after

>>713709768
Tell me how to play Gunster then
or Chromehounds

>>713710191
>I'm going to enter this thread, contribute nothing, and then complain when I'm called out for being a waste of space with the intelligence of an ant
Ok, buddy.

>>713710140
Why do you need a "major incident" to rally behind something? There's a gigantic list of games that are totally unplayable or will be unplayable at some point in the future.

>>713693285 (OP)
True. He didn't realize such a simple thing wouldn't be understood by the modern gaming audience that is used to being treated like shit and thanking the company for it. Oh well, hell is paved with good intentions. Its time to let someone with teeth take the reigns.

>>713709768
As always, the same dogshit argument
>no games I care about got shut down, therefore it's not a problem
kill yourself nigger

>>713710283
Because that’s usually what it takes to rally a large volume of people to get behind a movement?

>>713710359
>making up an argument I never said to get mad at
just like Thor

>>713709604
>Let me ask you this: do you really think no one in the last 40 years has tried to change or reinvent the gui? That no unit testing has been done on other schemes? Is that honestly what you believe?
Of course people have. Linux desktops exist and have some of the experimental UIs Ross describes in the video.
However, when we talk about Microsoft and Mac, there's two forces:
- The staying power of the legacy Apple II GUI
- The massive benefit you'd get if you could create a better UI people would adopt
The second point is extremely hard, I don't deny that, but bear in mind, kids today don't know how file systems work because they use Apple phones and have never seen a filing cabinet in their lives, so the abstraction isn't as permanent as you'd like to believe.
>Computer GUIs haven't significantly changed for the same reason the shape of the fucking wheel hasn't changed.
I don't think that floating windows with small close buttons are as fundamental to interacting with computer as simple machines are for engineering. That'd be more akin to things like file systems being hierarchies and how'd you'd explain that to someone who's never seen a filing cabinet.
>It's pretty strong evidence.
Then your reddit spacing is also suspect.

>>713710169
>all devs really have to do is [stop killing games]

>>713710167
>i need more laws because i can't control myself

>>713710480
>I like not owning the things I buy

>>713694527
Really? Show proof

>>713710229
Doesn’t Chromehounds still have a singleplayer component to it? Even if it’s barebones I don’t think SKG covers that.

>>713710480
>so what if they add rat shit into water to save on costs, just don’t buy those brands
>what do you mean it’s too profitable
>what do you mean every brand is doing it

>>713694527
SKG isn't asking for it to be retroactive, but to enforce standards on new games.

>>713710552
>buy VHS recorder
>five years later it's obsolete and tape is no longer produced/sold, rendering the device useless
>WOOOOOOW THIS IS BS REFUND ME NOW

>>713707221
god I fucking wish it would kill gachas. But no it wouldn't. That's not what the petition is about.

>>713710801
But you can still play all of your VHS tapes. It still functions for the reason you bought it.

>>713709191
Technical error? This purposefully designed advertisement was actually just ones and zeroes going haywire and displaying players with something that could be interpreted as an AD? Are these people for real?

>>713710801
>I don't understand what the initiative is about yet i discuss it
okay thor

>>713710458
>I disagree!
Ok. You're wrong.

>>713709768
>What games are we rallying to the defense and preservation of specifically?
All of them. Every single game.
You may not care about some games, and that's completely normal but some other person might and their preferences are not less valid simply because they are not (You).
I want every single game to be available. I take media preservation very seriously because it means that someone, somewhere, maybe in the future might stuble upon an obscure game/music/movie and they beyome enthralled by it for any reason. This possible happiness is more important to me than any company crying about licenses and hardships. It's fundamentally irrelevant to me because entertainment products were always meant to be enjoyed.

Obviously, not ALL games can be saved because many have already been lost to time, but this shouldn't stop anyone from trying their best in preserving media.

>>713710258
>I'm going to enter this thread [headcanon]
yawn, gonna go to bed. argue with the voices in your head like thor if you want.

>>713707460
>>713694527
>thor
isn't this little bitch getting roasted alive cuz his favorite online game is shutting down and he's sad and doesn't want that with people outright saying this is what he wanted and if only there was a way to stop killing games lmao

>>713710662
It has a working tutorial, which is to say 99% of the game doesn't work

>>713705930
You didn't watch it kek

>>713710801
Can't you digitize that shit now? I recently did that for some tape cossets that had some old music and family members speaking, it didn't cost that much and it doubles as as both a player with headphones and a tool to digitize them.

>I wish for games to be in a playable state for an indefinite period, and not be artificially killed when the developers abandon support
there. That's what the movement is about.
Why do so many people not understand this? Or even worse, are against this?

>>713706449
>some irrelevant "news" website which only has 10 readers
lel

>>713707517
>making up excuses for him, deflecting, feigning ignorance etc
From the couple of hours I've seen Asmon talk about this whole thing, he never defended the blizzard furry. The only thing he said was that he agrees that companies shouldn't be forced into providing a service, which he also stated isn't the initiative's goal.

>>713711068
lmao, did it really happen

>>713711115
"what is indentured servitude? My need to play Concord forever is a human right"

>>713694527
What really pisses me off is that he was like, "No, just because I work for the publisher doesn't mean I'm trying to kill it!" and yet Rivals of Aether 2 didn't have an offline mode on launch. It was a rushed experience that seemingly only exists now as a response to that criticism. Even Rivals fans fucking hate it and wish it had more to it since it was the biggest complaint.

>>713711115
generations of americans have been brainwashed by corporations to protect said corporations with their lives
mutts literally live and die by the corporation

>>713711115
But a narcissist furry on YouTube who worked at Blizzard told me it's about something else and he says he's never wrong.

>>713711182
Anon how is one dev making a peer to peer patch indentured servitude?

>>713710480
This, but unironically.
Whether we like it or not, some people are just not smart enough to control themselves. One such example is drunk driving, as it's still one of the leading causes in traffic fatalities.
Authorities and "better people" have to enforce some things. Not everything, of course, but many things have to be enforced otherwise people wouldn't do it on their own.
In some minor topics, this simply leads to greedy companies just taking away a product you have paid for. In more serious cases, it leads to death by negligence or malpractice.
However the core idea remains, people MUST be regulated.

>>713711168
He's sad that Meet Your Maker shut down, yeah. It was a game where you built a fortress level with traps and shit to defend a vial of stuff, then posted it online for others to try and complete. Fun concept but it was always flawed design wise so players got burnt out of instant kill deathtraps that were the meta. Devs abandoned it.

>>713710858
Tape wears out over time due to how the read/write mechanism works. Eventually your collection will be gone. You can copy one old tape to a new one, but that almost always will degrade the quality of the content until you are left with noise.

>>713711182
Playing the game you paid for should be a consumer right. The developer might not host the servers anymore, but the game should be playable in some form if it doesn't come with an explicit expiration date when you buy it.

>>713711182
No, but it is a consumer right.
If someone bought Concord, why shouldn't they be able to play it as they wish?
>b-but it is a bad game
So what? Why does the quality of the game matter? I can play shitty NES games 35 years later no problem.

>>713711182
>le concord was bad
>therefore no game deserves to be preserved
i hate you disingenuous niggers so much

I'm not going to sign it. The petition will fail no matter what.

>>713710910
It's just monkey typing out the entire code for the advert by complete accident, enabling it, then sending it to every live copy on the network. Please understand, it's all a big mistake.

>>713711115
It's gamergate all over again. No matter what evidence or argument you bring forward to people, many of them will trot out the same lines:
>Oh, you just want free games.
>Oh, you just want to kill all live service games
>Oh, you want the studios to support the game forever
You can't convince these people. They're ideologically captured and their world view around this particular subject has degenerated into 'us versus crazy gamers'. What's frightening to me is that even intelligent people who've started their own businesses and made good money talk like this, suggesting they either aren't paying attention or that they're operating in bad faith because they know it gets them clicks.

>>713711331
>food goes bad eventually so whole foods should be allowed to take it out of your fridge whenever they want

>>713711331
Yes and eventually your car will be dust, your house will rot, and the sun will explode. The big distinction is that no company decided to dust your car, rot your house, and explode the sun to defend their bottom line.

>>713711182
>because this shit game of the month could be played forever means this entire movement is retarded
I hate summer posters.

>>713710717
>water
>brand
Huh? Is this an American thing? I get all my clean water from the tap here, and people start rioting when it's even slightly contaminated.

>>713711350
>it's a consumer right
It's not.
In fact being able to protect your code, sell limited licenses, and own your own servers is all property rights.
You can't hide behind MUH RIGHTS while actively trying to strip rights from others.

>>713711491
>Oh, you just want to kill all live service games
But that's not a lie. The lie is saying SKG would do that.

>>713711548
Sounds like you have good LAWS and REGULATIONS then.

>>713711526
Oh so you've all stopped pretending this is about "game preservation?"

>>713711115
>They rush to regulations, laws, etc and use them against you and each other but god forbid you use the same tools to benefit yourself

>>713711587
>JUST THINK OF THOSE POOR CORPORATIONS
fucking lmao this nigger

>>713711656
Nigger what? It can be about both, stopping companies for killing games is really very excellent for games preservation. I can’t believe they let 70-iq people on the internet still.

>>713709768
You act like you know what the future is going to look like for gaming before it even happens. Who's to say every company won't make more and more "single-player" games into live-service? Already happened with games like Hitman. This is about protecting the FUTURE of gaming and to assert to publishers that there are people who actually care about this shit besides the legions of complacent smoothbrains who exclusively play Fortnite

>>713711526
All lies. Everyone know car makers secretly come to drain your battery and peel the paint around the wheels.

>>713711526
Planned obsolescence is a thing. Companies do, in fact, decide when and how your toaster breaks so you buy a new one. There's laws against that. Toasters still break "randomly".

>>713711587
>It's not.
It should be. That's why we are pushing for this to be tried in parliament.
>In fact being able to protect your code, sell limited licenses, and own your own servers is all property rights.
ok why should I, as a consumer, care about the privileged property owners?
You should make a product that appeals to me and abides by all rules. Don't do that and you don't get sales.
You aren't in the position to ask for demands. Consumers are.

>>713711182
I want to play Concord for free so I can see for myself how shitty it was

>>713711587
>It's not.
Correct, but only because corporations have attacked consumer rights to the point where courts accept absurdities.

>>713711638
Well then maybe gaymers also should take to the streets and start chopping off heads instead of making shitty craptivistic youtube essays.

>>713694527
That game will serve as an example of why SKG is worthwhile

>>713711182
people like you should not be allowed to breathe the same air I do

>>713706449
fake

>>713709979
Yeah. You're too cool to care. Don't worry about it.

>>713711850
>why should I care about OTHER PEOPLE's rights!? They're not me!

>>713711904
Rather than hoping for a millions strong pan-european gamer revolution, I think the current plan has a better chance of success.

>>713709768
I am not a gacha player but i think that is one of the segments that would be affected by it. And i think that is a good thing. People spend unholy money on them. I personally do not think there are any game i would like to play that i cant becouse it would be shut down. But also, you never know.

>>713711168
"Meet your maker" game is going down
He purged and deleted countless comment and even now is still getting roasted for it, 2k likes 6k dislikes ratio

>>713711115
I honestly don't know if anyone out there is actually openly against SKG aside from the contrarian trolls in these threads, the reddit-mod-energy furry, and that one ex-Valve guy who comes across as a genuine schizo. Obviously companies like Ubisoft aren't happy about it, but I doubt they'll say much openly because of how blatantly in the wrong they'd be.

>>713712023
correct
Next cope, please

>>713712023
Corporations aren’t people.

>>713709768
>I don’t know what other singleplayer games that were left in an unplayable state
IIRC there were a handful of games that never got fixed after GWFL died.
>inb4 but muh piracy
And what if was Denuvo that ended support instead? It's absurd to have to rely on fan-made cracks to begin with, but not every game has them.

>>713711068
>>713711168
>>713712046
ok I'll bite
how does him being sad a game is shutting down relate to his argument that studios shouldn't be legally forced to keep games up?
You understand that you can be sad about something without wanting to ban it, yeah?

>>713712023
Corporations are not people, labeling products correctly and not destroying a consumer's property when you fucking feel like it.
Is not a human right violation ... you retard.

>>713712040
I'm sure governments officials will bend the knee to some vocal minority of powerless autists and just say no to the billions of lobbyist money.

>>713712426
Frankly I don't care and this shit is not about that thor guy. He's just a distraction or I guess the main even for dramafags.

>>713712426
He should be celebrating this implementation of important rights, he is defending them to the death after all.

>>713711182
>what is indentured servitude
Something that corpos wished they could do without risking a total collapse. The thought of generational spanning free labor should be a basic corporate right in the eyes of any worshiper of the almighty green line. Humans are just resources that exist to be consumed after all.

>>713711587
>Intellectual property
You can't make a property rights argument with something that isn't real and has zero scarcity.
If you're selling me a product however, then come over to my house and break it, then you have violated our agreement and my rights.

>>713712046
>Literally getting smacked over the head with the same problem he was brigading against
>Gets mad at people pointing out the irony and doesn't change his tune at all
My man your hand is literally being burnt by the stove you said wasn't hot ?
How can he be that retarded ?

>>713712512
EU did it once and might do it again just to reap fines.

>>713712461
>>713712113
>only corporations can own software, not people!
>it's totally fine to strip people's property rights because something something corpos!
I'm a socialist but you're retarded
>labeling products correctly
This is already the legal standard and products with online DRM or server requirements are clearly marked, you're just lazy and stupid.
>destroying a consumer's property
It's not your property.
>human rights
property rights.

You kids are morons.

>>713711115
They don't, most people understand and agree but they don't speak English or there's an issue informing them
Shockingly most people have a reasonable opinion instead of nobody normal can use legal services and I wish the Government planted an id chip in my head absolutes
This place is just a magnet for the contrarian/obviously retarded trying to brush it off as bait and trolling

>>713712658
see >>713712426

I can be sad a friend is moving away without thinking the government should stop him from doing so

Why are you kids so dumb? So critically incapable of basic thought? Is it tiktok? Facebook? iPads? Plastics? What happened?

>>713712426
They are not forced to keep games up. All they need to provide is a way for the game to remain playable in some kind of state.

If the server cost is too high and nonprofitable, they are allowed to shut it down... that was never a question. But some kind of playable version must remain. It could be dealt with in many ways depending on type of game and the solution they are using in the first place, providing some kind of emulator. or making the game client-based or something else.

>>713712712
You’re not an ultraliberal Harry, stop being retarded.

>>713712426
If you sell a game the customer should play whenever he likes, he paid for that.
If you are not able or want to make a patch for offline at least make a notification that you are "renting" the game not "buying" it as you are advertizing it

>>713712641
>you shouldn't be able to profit off of music, movies, software, etc.
>you should only be able to profit off of physical goods
Cool, then those things will cease to exist because we live in a capitalist system.

>>713712641
>If you're selling me a product
Too bad, I sold you a mere license agreement that says I can change the license agreement whenever I want for any reason (you cannot do anything but agree or stop using it). That it looked exactly like you bought a product and you might not have been able to read the agreement until after buying is irrelevant.

>>713712812
Your friend isn’t moving away, he’s being assassinated by Organtek for his spleen. The kid doesn’t want it, his parents don’t want it, only the corporation wants it.

>>713707460
I only know this guy from a video where he said he went through what his doctor called a "second puberty" and its why his voice isn't how it is in older vids, one of which he showed. It was retarded enough to click don't recomend channel, but the comments believed him

>>713712906
EULAs are not legally binding and cannot contravene consumer law.

>>713712850
>at least make a notification that you are "renting" the game not "buying" it as you are advertizing it
There's an outcome where SKG "wins" but it means a lot of devs move to f2p games (you didn't buy anything so you have no right to anything) and subscriptions (you bought a month of game, so it can die next month if we stop taking your money). I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

>>713712937

>>713712946
>but the comments believed him
It's really amazing how a narcissist can gather a cult-like following.

>>713707221
That would be fucking great. However it wouldn't. It would just mean that after (for example) Genshin stops being profitable (in the year 2050) and chinks shutdown the servers they would just toss the game files out there too so you can playthrough the story and listen to 30 years worth of Paimon explaining things.

>>713712426
>his argument
irrelevant and gay
You WILL release an SDK and fans WILL make a better version of your game when you abandon it

>>713713186
Oh it’s you, you used this same image before. Kill yourself.

These threads always remind me of the time EA put out that always online Simcity game, and game journos were writing articles saying there was NoOoO WaAaY the game could have an offline mode and you're all dumb and entitled for wanting that, but then EA added an offline mode like a week later.

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713695839
>but he looks fucked
he looks okay, only 4chan fags say shit like this

>>713695568
I agree with this.
Too many of my favorite franchises have been killed by retards.
I want it all to burn.

>>713712898
>you shouldn't be able to profit off of music, movies, software, etc.
>you should only be able to profit off of physical goods
I never said that. You're crazy.
People will pay for your brand and the assurance that they're getting the genuine article. that's why trademarks are the only form of IP law that makes any sense as a form of fraud protection.
Sales are not the only factor in profit.
>those things will cease to exist because we live in a capitalist system
We don't have a free market, it's regulated to hell and back.
And if we did, then creative work would flourish because publishers would want first crack at a good author's best work, IP law wouldn't restrict creativity, and a million other industries would be created.
Maybe you're just not creative enough to see it.

>>713713272
Ubisoft is even adding offline to the not-already-killed The Crew games. So it's clearly possible and a relatively small amount of effort.

>>713695954
He turned down several big name interviews just so he could virtue signal about being a staunch leftist.

He is the reason the movement is dead before it even began.

>>713713591
Please, Ranjeet, get a better job. Your thirty rape-children can’t be supported off of a penny a post.

>>713713591
>He turned down several big name interviews
???
>just so he could virtue signal about being a staunch leftist.
Oh, you're in the wrong thread.

>>713713591
It is not a leftist case in any form. Stop making things political for stupid reasons, you fag. Everyone benefits from this other than big corpos.

>>713713591
>tribalbrain trying to throw off the scent.
Moldman is above your petty wars fueled by bullshit.

>>713711587
>being able to protect your code, sell limited licenses, and own your own servers is all property rights.
nobody is disputing any of those rights.

>>713706449
Game Developers deserve to be forced into doing what I say

I went from ambivalent to hoping this fails because you losers went full eceleb drama with your gay petition

>>713713513
>I never said that.
You said IP rights shouldn't be a thing. That's the consequence. That you can't put 2 and 2 together is not my problem.
>we don't live in capitalism because regulations
god damn you're stupid

>>713714476
>one plus one is three! Why do you hate video games!?
Removing those rights is a necessity to accomplish your stated goal.

>>713714834
it's absolutely not, you're just being deliberately retarded

>>713713591
>He turned down several big name interviews just so he could virtue signal about being a staunch leftist
Anon one of the two media interviews he did was with a far-right pseudo-nazi podcast.
What the fuck are you talking about

>>713693285 (OP)
This guy is way too ice for his own good

>>713714125
This is absolutely a leftist cause, it’s just that the average r/thedonald tourist that stuck around since 2016 has no idea what leftism is, and equates it all to culture war horseshit.

>>713715062
why he blue

>>713705930
You're a pseud and probably a novice programmer. He may have only entry level Python or whatever experience while you have less than 2 years under your belt probably.

>>713695546
He has an unironic fanbase amongst normalfags who got in when he was trending with his retarded shorts. Those normalfags don't pay attention to anything he claims and take his word as gospel. Just recently I stumbled upon a random cunt using his webms in a completely unrelated discord and getting FIERCELY defensive when I brought up how much of a lolcow the guy is.
On top of that, this mold dude actually confirmed that outside of Germany there was a fast and sharp decline in petition signings right after PrasiteSoftware released his video.
There is a world outside 4chan, believe it or not, and it has manmade horrors beyond your comprehension exhibiting the levels of earnest stupidity that you wouldn't attribute to even the most incompetent trolls.

>>713715193
da-ba-dee, da-ba-di

>>713715092
Ah yes, a 15 years old will tell me about leftism. Leftism is the main reason why Europe is a massive shithole.

>>713707221
Many gachas release offline versions of their games when they reach end of service now. It's not something at all difficult for them to accommodate and they're doing it already without being asked. It won't hurt the gacha industry at all.

>>713714834
>me being unable to rape women is a violation of MY RIGHTS as a free man
>n-no, don't make a law against this!!!

>>713715232
>mossman said signings declined so clearly this is all the gay furry's fault!
Or maybe it's just a shit petition made by retards that no one cares about and the world isn't dominated by the dumb shit you choose to read online

>>713715320
You could’ve just more succinctly said, “I’m retarded”

>>713711735
This only applies to AAA gaming, which should be allowed to die regardless. Doesn't affect Indie and AA which will make games the normal way.

>>713709603
Being low IQ and incapable of self-reflection goes a long way.

>>713715402
>some rights supercede other rights
Indeed, the rights to safety and liberty should and often do override things like freedom of speech and expression.
Unfortunately for you both things we're talking about are property rights.

>>713693285 (OP)
His face reminded me os this for some reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QRHK_Z_X8Y

So many lost game dungeon/fm2 vids because of stop killing games stuff taking time

ugh

>>713710801
>keeps using the VHS recorder with the tapes he already has
Wow, it sure was utterly trivial to BTFO you.

>>713715435
Green energy /Migration / Extremely high taxes/ massive bureaucracy/ No armies/ Quotas for women fags etc/ All products of leftism and leftist parties.

>>713715193
Because he's got a blue house with a blue window.

>>713711587
>>713714834
You realize the irony of what you're saying? You're removing property rights and consumer rights in favor of corporate rights, just because corpos invented the concept of "digital license".
Sorry, but I'm of a firm belief that people come above corporations. Commerce must be regulated to protect the customers. If commerce regulation didn't exist, all of the following would be legal:
>sales of hazardous materials
>non-disclosure of substances in food
>sale of toxic foods
>actual scams and theft
>etc.

>>713715775
>sales of hazardous materials
This sounds based. I want this.

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713702143
They both suffer from the same thing.

>>713694525
I HAVE TO MAKE THE MOVIE

>>713715424
>>mossman said signings declined so clearly this is all the gay furry's fault!
>Or maybe it's just a shit petition made by retards that no one cares about and the world isn't dominated by the dumb shit you choose to read online

550K, 90K growth since the video. While nice i would expect bigger growth.

>1 fucking million signees required
what the fuck is this shit? it should be done at 100k
who the fuck set those requirements

>>713707949
well well well, would you look at that

>>713714746
>You said IP rights shouldn't be a thing. That's the consequence.
But it isn't. Steam is popular despite piracy being trivial because people will pay for bandwidth and assurance that they're getting a genuine product from the maker. Just because IP law ceases to exist doesn't mean the incentives that drive Steam cease to exist also.
>we don't live in capitalism because regulations
Capitalism stipulates that we have private ownership and a free-market. Regulations, especially those that create an unfair advantage, such as IP laws or expensive licenses designed to eliminate small competition, make a market less free.

>>713716445
adults that don't want to waste time with eceleb bullshit

>>713716478
kek

>>713716479
>Regulations...make a market less free.
It's literally a proven fact that the removal of regulations in america (muh capitalism country) in the past 40 years was the primary cause of eradication of the middle class and the rise of poverty.
Regulation is absolutely NEEDED for a good quality of life.

>>713716445
Because it's not merely a petition. I think it means the european govt HAS to look at it and write a report or something.

>>713716542
>le adults
bills get pushed into LAW faster with lesser votes and this shit requires 1 million signees for some faggot from EU to listen or look at it
fuck off you retard

Ross looks and sounds exactly like an 90s computer geek/IT guy. He's probably a metalhead too. Those guys were the coolest dudes

>>713695839
Maybe stop projecting your shallowness onto others, yeah?

>>713715775
>you're removing property rights
No, you are.
>consumer rights
No consumer rights are being removed. You're asking for new shit, not defending rights that are in place.
>but muh goods
Software is not a good. No, EU law does not classify it as a good. The case you idiots trot around constantly says that certain specific regulations understood to apply to goods also apply to software. Legally software lies in its own grey area where it receives some of the requirements and protections of both a good and a service.
>Corpos invented the concept of a digital license!
You're fucking retarded. "Corporations" didn't invent the concept of intellectual property and software isn't the only thing that's licensed.
>People come before corporations!
Cool, you get that people can own software right? Not in the stupid sense you mean, in the actual legal sense of owning the intellectual property they created.
>Regulations good!
I agree. That's irrelevant to anything I said.

>>713715062
am i glad he's frozen in there and that we're out here

>>713705454
They don't regulate at this granularity you fucking dumbass. They don't care about this trivial garbage.

The anti-petition shills and corporate plants and straight up useful idiots kinda make me think that the tyrannical dictators who jail those who speak out against them might have a point. You explain to these subhumans that they are wrong using irrefutable evidence and they just keep repeating the same thing hoping it will be embedded in the collective consciousness using the firing method of "accuracy through volume". You can't argue in a civilized manner against that which isn't trying to argue but is trying to subjugate you through any means available.

>>713716278
Of course you would ;)

thank you for autosaging this thread mods

>>713707949
>-stein
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME.

>>713717302
Then why are you so opposed to people signing this? If the motion is toothless, you have no reason to complain about others "wasting their time".

>>713716479
>but it isn't
It is, you're just too stupid to understand that.
>Steam is popular despite piracy existing
Ok, and? What's that got to do with you asking for legislation that would require IP-holders give up their rights?
>Just because IP law ceases to exist doesn't mean the incentives that drive Steam cease to exist also
Oh holy shit you really are this fucking stupid.
Without IP rights someone could just build Free-Steam and undercut anyone trying to actually sell products and there would be no recourse. That's the end of software being monetizable. Full-stop.
>Capitalism stipulates a free market
No it doesn't. Capitalism stipulated private ownership of property. That's all it does. What you're describing is a specific form of extremist free-market capitalism proposed by anarcho-capitalist and dipshit libertarians.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>713713117
That just means people will have to relearn the lessons from back when it was all about being the next WOW.

>>713717472
I oppose your regulation at the meta-level -- just like most ruling politicians in capitalist economies (like the EU is) do.
Your little regulation is perfectly fine if it existed in a vacuum, but it does not. It's one more point in a book of regulations that hinder small to mid enterprise. It's one more reason why you need to hire a lawyer to launch a video game instead of just telling Steam to upload your .exe.
And it's not like there are currently one million regulations for shit like games. There probably are less than 20 or something. Your one addition is a big fish in a pond. Again, it's one more reason a small coder would need to consult a lawyer.

>>713716730
>It's literally a proven fact that the removal of regulations in america (muh capitalism country) in the past 40 years was the primary cause of eradication of the middle class and the rise of poverty.
>Regulation is absolutely NEEDED for a good quality of life.
Regulations took away the cheapest and best healthcare system in the world: mutual aid societies. This was because Hospitals couldn't compete with the healthcare they provided so they lobbied the government for their removal.
>>713717494
>What's that got to do with you asking for legislation that would require IP-holders give up their rights?
I'm not asking for anyone to give up their rights. IP law takes rights away. I'm asking for those rights back.
Steam exists despite people being able to get games for free, removing IP law would mean anyone can sell any video game, Steam would still exist because it exists despite piracy existing.
>>Without IP rights someone could just build Free-Steam and undercut anyone trying to actually sell products and there would be no recourse.
Nah. Steam is a marvel of discoverability and stability. It made Vampire survivors a hit and consistently allows the download of millions of titles.
That's not so easy to do.
>No it doesn't. Capitalism stipulated private ownership of property.
The definition literally comes from Laize-fiare. Private ownership, freedom to do with your capital as you will, and free-market.
>You're stupid, stupid, STUPID!
Tsundere-commie chan, you can't just come on to me like this.

honestly, this is the biggest hopium for me, the lower this number drops the more realistic it becomes

>>713717765
>I oppose your regulation at the meta-level
Yeah because you are a filthy, lying kike livid that the goyim dare even think of having rights.
Kill yourself.

>>713717979
Kill yourself.

>>713717765
Weird, that's a completely opposite sentiment to the post you made earlier >>713717302
Almost like you are a compulsive liar pushing an agenda or something.

>>713717880
>I'm not asking for anyone to give up their rights
You can keep repeating that but it doesn't make it true.
>IP law takes rights away
I don't think you know what rights are.
>"Without legal recourse and without the ability to use DRM there's nothing stopping random assholes from just selling your product at a lower price (because they spent nothing to make it) and fucking you, it kills monetization"
>nah bro piracy exists!
You're so stupid I find it hard to believe that you can breathe and type unassisted.
>The definition of capitalism comes from (dramatic misspelling of lasseiz-faire) which means private ownership
Are you taking the piss or are you really this retarded?
Capitalism is private ownership of property. Full stop.
Lasseiz-faire, or "let it be" is a form of non-interventionism that is in no way exclusive to capitalism or part of capitalism. What it is part of is shitty neoliberal policy and the fever dreams of aforementioned an-caps.

>>713718434
>neoliberal policy
I literally advocating for the opposite though? I want less government intervention while neoliberalism wants more.

>>713718548
>neoliberals want more regulation
You really are lost.
Neoliberalism is literally defined as an opposition to regulation

>>713718773
Next you'll be telling me capitalism isn't about a free-market! Crazy!

>>713718885
go back to >>713717880 and read recursively until you die of starvation

>>713717927
Yeah especially sence we're currently getting 3 times more signatures per day so even if numbers of signatures drops significantly after the hype we might still be able to reach these goals.

>>713719071
That's not what recursively means.

>>713719121
>>713718885
>>713718548
pretending to be retarded is still just being retarded

>>713719471
And calling someone stupid isn't an argument.

>>713695839
>That's good, but he looks fucked.
Dude, he's in his 40s. Comparatively aside from his hairline and goofy stare he looks fine.
>We live in a world that almost entirely judges everything off the immediate presentation
>To try and stand against that is stupid as fuck because you're trying to go against
No, you're a shallow zoomertard. This is an issue concerning game preservation and availability, not a looks contest.