>do you want devs to run servers forever?
Yes
>Do you want to make live service illegal
Yes
>You think the government should meddle with videogames
Yes

>>713695232 (OP)
Yeah man, hosting a server in a VM is so hard and costly

Couldn't care less about online slop

>>713695409
You are on an online slop website

>>713695232 (OP)
P2P man
>b-but the game doesn't implement them...
That's their problem to solve.

>>713695425
kek

>>713695232 (OP)
the EU must love nortubel

Stop spamming threads.
I count 5 right now.

>>713695232 (OP)
That's not what Stop Killing Games is proposing though. Is this subtle anti initiative shilling?

pro consumer = communism

>>713695496
Just for one example, yeah. Either a confused anon, or a shill.

Bro we all know its you and your anti shill campaign has failed. This was the biggest thing in your life and you blew it. Time to gommage yourself.

>>713695409
even singleplayer games have online elements these days/

>>713696137
Keep spamming threads, I only see 5

>>713695232 (OP)
Small correction for those who are interested. Gonna reply bit seriously(stupid thing in /v/ I know but you know info is info)
For the initiative
>do you want devs to run servers forever?
No. Tools and proper eol(end of life) plan is what the initiative is made for. Be it updates that allows you to play without the servers, or community/dedicated servers that are able to be run without the publisher/dev interference
>Do you want to make live service illegal
No. But it needs above regulations.
>You think the government should meddle with videogames
Preferably no, but we need the eol stuff at least and government regulations for them would be amazing. Then just hands off and let the devs do their thing. Most developers would happily allow their game to live longer, but it is most of the time publisher thing that wants the servers down and players to move to their new game.
I wouldn't want to bring him up, but PirateSoftware is part of the publishing team of Rivals of Aether 2, that is why I PERSONALLY THINK he is so vocally against the initiative.

Link for those Europebros who haven't signed it: https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
Do the right thing and sign.

>>713695232 (OP)
>Do you want devs to leave the EU
yes
>Do you want devs to lose potential sales by labeling their games as ''rentals''
yes
>do you want devs to go bankrupt
yes,yes and yes

>>713695232 (OP)
this, but unironically

>>713695232 (OP)
don't care about any of this but I signed because I hate piratesoftware

>>713699395
I genuinely thank you anon. Never knew what it was about and never bothered on reading into it but I will sign the petition now.

>>713695232 (OP)
And release the source code

>>713695232 (OP)
>I NEED TO PLAY CONCORD FOREVER!! DON'T TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME!!!

>>713701423
Kek imagine Sony being forced to keep Concord live for the next 50 years

>>713701565
>>713701423
>legislation force Sony to bring back Concord
>it flops again

>Why yes, I made a mistake paying for a live-service game without reading the EULA terms.
>No, I don't think I should be held accountable for my poor choice.

>>713695232 (OP)
based, total GaaS death!
>inb4 what is GaaS
Games as a Service, the cancer killing games right now.

>>713701565
That would be beautiful poetry. If this passes you can bet that the amount of slop similar to Concord would be cut in half.

Bump for you #SKG chads. Fuck GAAS models

>>713699769
Just look at Expedition 33 to see what non-burger devs can do.

>globohomo fascists trying to attack hard working corporations again

>you don't understand, you should not own things you buy
>government only exist to take your taxes and so you can complain about it
>don't every try to improve anything
>just sit in your basement like the rest of us and screech about jews on /pol/
>NOOOO DON'T TAKE ACTION, STOP
>DO NOT ATTACK THE CORPORATIONS NOOOOOOOOO

>>713703085
t. communist nazi

>>713702640
>>globohomo fascists
lol
lmao

>>713695232 (OP)
this is retarded they'll just increase the prices

>>713703085
>you don't understand, I paid you for a taxi ride once 20 years ago, this means you must drive me around forever for free whenever I ask, or give me your car
>I bought this ticket for admission to an amusement park once, so I can now go there forever whenever I want even if it's closed, and if you want to shut down you have to give me all your assets or everything I need to make my own recreation of the theme park for free
>I bought a hotdog at your stand once, you owe me hotdogs for life or you have to give me the hotdog factory

>>713704201
you mean like they're doing anyway?

The best result is if "live service" games die. Fuck wow for inflicting this upon us.

>>713706865
>get in taxi
>can watch fare meter increase so you know exactly how much you owe at any time
>go to park
>can buy a "day pass" that explicitly says you're there for the day
>go to hotdog stand
>menu shows pricing for each item

All you're doing is highlighting how the rest of the world is perfectly able to buy and sell products and services without needing to scam customers.

Why do video game publishers NEED areas of ambiguity in the law? Why do they NEED to force people to sign a contract via EULA after they've bought the product? Why are video games so special that they're somehow immune to the basic common logic rules that are successful everywhere else in society?

How about you legalize hyperrealistic loli porn instead of shit no one cares about

>>713706865
>let me strawman your points
Hi Thor. Working overtime?

>>713695232 (OP)
Kill yourself, Eurocuck.

It's funny because even if you misinterpret what Ross was saying the overwhelming response would still be a resounding 'yes'.
Developers have zero respect for their customers and customers need to man up and treat developers in kind.
A developer is the customer's bitch. They are supposed to do what we demand and if they don't then all their IP should be pirated with extreme prejudice and daddy government should step in. Developers should be walking on fucking eggshells trying not to violate consumer laws.
Consumers are gods and all that developers are fit to do is lick our boots clean and cater to our whims. If you disagree you are a massive faggot cuck.

>>713695232 (OP)
Wait, are those the misconceptions of the amerimutts against this?

>do you want devs to run servers forever?
No one will be forced to keep servers running.
The games just need to be left in a playable state offline. Easily doable with bots.

>Do you want to make live service illegal
This won't happen, in fact.

>You think the government should meddle with videogames
Governments should, and have, to fight against corporations, because corporations stronger than governments are a dystopia.

>>713695232 (OP)
You are my bitch dev
I own you
You better make me happy or you will die starving next to a hobo

>>713695232 (OP)
OP is retarded

>>713696569
correct!
I have been voting communist since I turned 18

>>713709943
well that’s clearly a lie because all the parties are owned by Jews so there is no pro consumer party

>>713701423
Unironically, yes. It should be preserved for future generations to be able to look at to know what not to do.

>>713710095
I'm not american

>>713707245
>Why do they NEED to force people to sign a contract via EULA after they've bought the product?
And the excuse for this is idiotic.
>Oh but if you don't want to agree to the EULA you could only read after you've bought the product you should ask for a refund
>Not from us, of course, whoever you bought it from needs to handle our bullshit
>Also we have the right to change the agreement whenever, after there's no way to get a refund

>>713701423
i don't need to play it but they should be forced to keep it up forever anyway

>>713710958
>they should be forced to keep it up forever
Their fault for not designing it to be possible to play offline. There's no reason a game like Concord couldn't have a LAN mode.

>>713701423
Jew
>>713704201
Jew
>>713695409
Jew
>>713696137
Jew

preservation is noble but this is going to backfire guys. citizens shouldn't be getting involved in lawmaking. leave that up to politicians and the companies who make games

>>713708418
But he's going to kill live service games! How will gaming ever recover from being purged of the largest cancer on the industry?!?

>>713695232 (OP)
bare minimum I want live service games to make it clear that they aren't eternal
truth in advertising

Why is it impossible to avoid people assuming loads of stuff that's not the goal of the campaign. Stop misrepresenting the goals of the campaign bitch. Before you criticise, check if your criticism is valid in the FAQ. https://www.stopkillinggames.com/faq

>>713711454
I wish anon

>>713713086
It can be even Ubisoft hiring browns to make their dirty job.

>>713695232 (OP)
Based AND white.