Never done an honest day's work in your life for all that coin you're carrying, eh lad?

>walk up to random stranger
>"you look like a criminal sir/madam please do a crime for me"
Bravo, the pinnacle of videogame writing rises ever higher

how to kill this invincible nigger

Just for that I'm gonna go down to your hideout and steal all your shit while your friends watch like cucks.

>>713699379
Stop complaining about realism in a game about dragons and magic.

>>713699128 (OP)
fuck you gon do about it shekelberg?

>>713699128 (OP)
> meanwhile: 0 coins in the pocket
Yep
Proud neet

>>713699746
>open console
>setessential [insert brynjolf's ID] 0

>>713700430
who was complaining about realism?

>Purposefully fucks up the job

Now what, bitch boy?

>>713699128 (OP)
>can't immediately turn him in to the guard
The only quest in the entire game with an actual decision is killing the dark brotherhood. Did they have some intern who didn't know he was supposed to make soulless garbage make that quest or something?

>>713700994
You vil do it right again

>>713700994
>"But never mind that, even though you fouled up the job I still think you've got that spark I'm looking for. There's plenty of gold out there for the taking... if you're up to the challenge."

>>713700994
>well you fucked it up but uh you've got the spirit! here's how secret hideout lets make you a thief!
(this actually happens btw)

>>713699128 (OP)
>Approach Riften gates
>"Stop! This is the crime city and we're the corrupt guards who shake you down at the gate. Now pass an easy speech check or prepare to give us 10 gold!"
>Take two steps inside
>"Hey you. You're new in town so you better not ask any questions and definitely don't ask me about the Black Briars."
>Who are the Black Briars
>"Okay, okay, take it easy. They're the crime family that run this town and I work for them. Maven Black Briar is their leader and they're connected to the thieves guild who are also here downstairs. That's what this town is going to be about"
>Take a few more steps
>"Hello I'm here to induct you into the Thieves guild because this is the Thieves guild city. But we don't take just anyone! Go pick that thing up and put it down over there.
>Done
>"See, I have an eye for exceptional people. Okay, go through that tunnel down there. That's where our entire criminal enterprise openly operates from.
Greatest RPG of all time

>>713700806
doesn't work. he's on whole another level

>>713702836
don't forget even if you fail the task Brynjolf let's you join the guild anyway

>>713699746
>open console
>click on Brynjolf
>type "disable"

>>713701135
Dark Brotherhood is Emil's baby, of course he'll put the most effort (lol) in it

>>713702836
Forgot
>The bridge into town is blocked by a known thief in thief attire shaking down a citizen for money in broad daylight
Also
>City full of thieves that runs on thievery and has thieves guild associates at the highest levels
>Somehow the thieves guild is going broke and thieving is impossible nowadays

>>713703842
>pic
is this his response to getting molested at a gay bar?

>>713703945
>Somehow the thieves guild is going broke and thieving is impossible nowadays
well yeah, the town has like four legitimate businesses and everyone else are criminals. It's like a town with 100 car mechanics and only 5 people who own cars

>>713704106
You'd think the natural progression would be to expand chapters in other cities? Why does it take the Dragonborn doing random jobs in cities to start this process? If they really 'own' Riften and the place has been hollowed out, why not go legit through Maven or just move the enterprise somewhere else?

>>713703992

>lad

>>713701135
Being able to destroy the Thieves Guild was planned but cut. It would've involved Mjoll the Lioness which is why her introductory dialogue has her complaining about the guild

>>713704281
you're basically asking why the ghosts in the haunted mansion don't go out and haunt the other rides in the theme park

>>713703992
He's in Hammerfell

>>713704281
The point of the factions in Skyrim is that they're all at their low point. The Dark Brotherhood has had all its chapters but Skyrim's eradicated, and Skyrim's doesn't follow the Night Mother any longer. The Thieves Guild has its boss actively stealing from the guild for years and Nocturnal casting a bad luck curse on the whole thing

>>713699379
Hey guy from the boat. You want to be our prophesied savior?

Writing has never been their strong suit.

>>713699128 (OP)
>Something like 12 named characters with backstories
>No associated quests, they do nothing and can't accompany you

>>713701135
Did you play the game or just get your opinion from some YouTube video?

>>713705172
nigger at least play the game before trying to make a retarded comment on its writing

>>713705295
How about this.
I as Arch Mage want you to go kill all the Telvanni magisters.
> mfw I am a Telvanni magister.

If they put their heads together it would sound like a bowling alley. Writing has never been their thing.

>>713705592
trebonius is a retard and doesn't even want to rule his guild
this is why he assigns impossible tasks for people so they would fuck off
>"I don't care what he asked you to do. The best thing for all of us is to ignore that Scuttlehead. Last year he asked me to learn the language of the Silt Striders so we could question them about who they took to different cities." --Sirilonwe, Mages Guild Conjurer

>>713706045
Don't become addicted to copium.

>>713706158
morrowind has lapses in writing but trebonius being obstinate and don't even caring to whom he talks too is fine

>>713705291
I literally just went through my fourth playthrough (with sex mods) a few months ago anon. I have a love hate relationship with this game. Pic related is missing another 200 hours on console and a pirated copy.

>>713706045
Let me guess Morrowind was your first TES game and you think it was special unlike the other trash games.
> Why no I just recently played it for the first time and thought it was the best in the series by far. This revelation invalidates your nostalgia claim.
Did I miss anything?

There is not a tinkers bit of difference between the writing of any TES game.

>>713706394
So you missed all the daedric quests?

>>713706394
I can't imagine how clunky and buggy skyrim porn mods must be

>>713706490
>There is not a tinkers bit of difference between the writing of any TES game.
yes
it's the constructed universe and backstory that is written in good way
each game has pretty standard storytelling and it's more static (even with so called radiant AI) than many other games

>>713706490
>gets proven wrong by the game he never played and is trying to criticise after reading random uesp articles
>starts seething

>>713706632
Some modders are decent but most are bad at their hobby.
You can't really get mad at them. It is just a hobby.

>ask Mercer about who'd be screwing with the guild
>he proceeds to say like "I don't know but they're definitely really smart, and clever, and handsome, and tall, and have a big penis."
Very subtle.

>>713699128 (OP)
*Casually keeps walking*

>>713706737
You are correct about seething happening in this thread.
I will give you that much.

>>713701517
>>713701542
BRAVO TOBY

the thieves guild is much better when you purposefully fuck up every quest that you can
all of the characters seethe impotently and can still do the next quests despite being a massive fuckup

>>713705008
Not him but they are still a really fucking lame version of the guild. I can't free them from the Black-Briars EVEN IF I AM THE FUCKING LISTENER, I can't take them with me as companions(which I grant you wasn't possible in the other games if I recall but even the Mage College had companions in Skyrim, and at least the Dark Brotherhood gives you a horse and a summonable companion. These selfish fucks don't give a shit), I can't even wipe them out. There is barely any interaction with them in any meaningful way outside of, wait for it, 5 fucking merchants. Wow. And these fences would be cool if they weren't attached to THIS PARTICULAR THIEVES GUILD. These are the biggest assholes in the Thieves Guild history. Fuck me even Daggerfall was better and they sent you on assassination missions half the time as part of the theft. At least in Morrowind it's leader was TRYING to do some good but was getting fucked over by political machinations and you can end up making his dreams a reality. And the Thieves Guild in Oblivion was downright noble. Fuck the Skyrim Thieves guild. They are the absolute worst.

>>713706730
Careful with that copium. It is some nasty shit that is addictive as hell.

>>713699128 (OP)
I hate being unable to kill Maven more than this dude.

Israel or Palestine

>>713707234
Napoleonic Empire

>>713707234
Nuke the entire middle east

>>713707046
You get fences in each city you reclaim plus the khajit caravans.
Try playing the game before commenting on it.
Youtuber's slacking lately.

>>713707234
Can they both lose?

>>713700430
>there are dragons and magic therefore all realism goes out the window
Oh yeah? Then why can't I levitate?

>>713707046
>At least in Morrowind it's leader was TRYING to do some good but was getting fucked over by political machinations and you can end up making his dreams a reality. And the Thieves Guild in Oblivion was downright noble
That's lame. "Muh Robin Hood we're nice thieves" is boring, I want to be an asshole that steals solely for my own gain. If anything Skyrim should've given an option to side with Mercer.

>"They call me dirge because that's the last thing you hear before we put you in the ground"

What did he mean by this

>>713707551
Because it's illegal, duh

>>713707234
What?

>The wolf is having sex!

>>713703678
>disable
not satisfying enough.

>>713707603
These are the same people that whine the BoS in Fallout isn't exactly the same in every game. They don't like change of any kind.

>>713707612
He's a retarded criminal, its realistic.

>>713707603
That wouldn't fit with our overall Muh Miserables "criminals are noble law is tyranny" basic bitch subversion.

post mod folders

>>713707471
So this is what it feels like to be thalmor.

>>713699379
KISS my guy

>>713708285
Why would the thalmor want the group they are modeled after to lose?

>>713707665
Why can't I levitate in Solstheim? It's not part of the Empire, so the law shouldn't apply there.

>>713699128 (OP)
Monsters just kinda carry stuff i can sell, and there's a shitload of monsters, and they go after me so, yeah free money.

>>713708637
Using that logic you should be able to levitate in half of Skyrim.

>>713708854
Well it wasn't my logic; I was just pointing out an obvious flaw in "you cant levitate because it is illegal"
Bit strange how criminal groups such as the Theives guild or Dark Brotherhood don't levitate

>>713709034
If you have anything worth protecting you would probably have a ward that alerts you if magic is being used.
If TES isn't set in Hammerfell I hope the final quest of the thieves guild involves a no magic no kill heist. By no magic I mean no scrolls, enchanted gear, spells, staves, etc.
If it is Hammerfell they can do whatever as I won't play it.

I recently played through the thieves guild again after installing a bunch of sneak, crime and thief tool mods.
It was cool doing things like planting tripwires and bear traps. It also added a bunch of special arrows like those from thief.
>shoot an oil arrow at the ground
>shoot noisemaker arrow at puddle
>multiple people come investigate
>shoot fire arrow at oil puddle and light them up
It was fun

>>713709692
Yeah, Skyrim is a "make your own fun" kind of game. And usually with mods. That's where it truly thrives. As a canvas.

>>713709692
Thief had this ages ago.

>>713699128 (OP)
>can destroy the dark brotherhood
>but not these faggots
Fuck you todd

>>713703678
Did this but now he just wheels up to me and says the same thing

>>713705008
No it seems more like they just removed half the guilds and half assed the rest.
>fighters guild
Doesn't exist, now follow these werewolves also you have to become one yourself if you want to continue the questline, no you can't kill them.
>mages guild
Doesn't exist. If you want to use magic for some reason despite all magic being made complete shit, there's a tiny college that sucks where you do no maging and instead just ruffle through dungeons full of draugr to get a staff and also the desu ex machinas think you're super duper cool and the only one who can defeat the most obvious villain guy of all time.
>dork brotherhood
You don't get inducted for killing someone. You get inducted for stealing a contract being offered by a kid who somehow walked from riften, probably some gay shit going on I don't know I killed them.
>thieves guild
FORCED TO JOIN DURING THE MAIN QUEST, is 0.5% about stealing unless you really really really really really really like radiant quests, and you spend most of the time learning how the thieves guild suddenly has super duper nightclown leather assassins who are direct contractors to nocturnal and the guild leader they wasted the voice of GARRET THE MASTER THIEF on is actually the bad guy who stole from nocturnal but it's bad this time unlike when the gray fox stole the cowl because reasons, also you have to sell your soul (again) to defeat Mercer even though he's easier than any random dungeon draugr fight.

Every single one of them is designed not with "become the leader dude" as a bonus gift for completing the questline, but with that as the entire purpose of the questline.
>you killed a single thalmor? you're archmage now
>you killed mercer? you're the leader now
>same thing for the other two guilds I refused to play them

>>713706045
Mr President we've found weapons grade copium in anon's house

>>713710460
You don't say.

>>713700430
Pete...

>>713712032
>FORCED TO JOIN DURING THE MAIN QUEST
buddy it's as simple as walking past them

>>713707612
Well I've never been put in the ground so I wouldn't know what that sounds like

>>713709692
why the fuck would you play skyrim instead of thief if stealth robbery is your intent
skyrim isn't good enough at it even with mods, and you have to suffer through a horrible story to get there

>>713713301
Wrong.

I don't know why Companion is really popular, and I don't like that stinky girl Aela.
It's like joining a macho gay bar with extra yiff

>>713713806
The ratway vaults aren't locked my guy, step two is completely optional.

>>713708390
Based

>>713699128 (OP)
Still wondering why I can destroy the Dark Brotherhood, but not the Thieves guild.