Thread 713707739

>Well, Stan, the truth is video games probably aren't gonna make you kill people, and it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorism, but, well son, video games make you feel fine with being bored, and it's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or being creative. If you play video games you may grow up to find out that you aren't good at anything.
This quote changed my life

>>713707739 (OP)
/v/ refuses to acknowledge this, but it has been said in myriad forms.

ToT

>>713707739 (OP)
>just be a cog in the machine son
>don't pursue your own happiness, live in service to everyone else
>or else we'll judge you
How horrifying.

>>713707854
trvthnvke
>>713708113
pic rel is how your idea of "happiness" (endless instant gratification) plays out in the world

>>713707854
One point I never see brought up is that he’s streamer since there’s a chat. You can get ad revenue, donations (not charity donations but viewers will send money to the streamer) as well as sponsorship opportunities. So when recording these attempts he was likely getting a lot of money, oftentimes more than an actual job nowadays.

>>713708113
True but it’s a lot better than the old days. Sure there’s social media and people will bother you but compared to say the 90s or 2000s most people are on their phones or computers all day.

>>713708296
Cute image, it gives me some idea of how you determine self worth. My idea of happiness is to seek to do things that make me happy. Your idea of happiness, apparently, is to deny yourself like a slave for people's shallow approval.

But I'm sure you've collected enough attaboys that you don't need mine too. Hope it makes you happy, 'cause it wouldn't do it for me.

>>713709062
what's the point of the picture? is it supposed to motivate? maybe the opposite? do i have to feel envious? you know, the ceo of the company that made my shaving razor drives a nice sports car too

Kissing little girls makes me happy, games are a cope that I cannot easily do it.

>wasted my life playing videogames and watching anime
>didn't develop any skills during my teenage years
>can't even have fun with vidya anymore so no more escapism left for me
stay out of vidya. you're not supposed to have fun. biologically speaking life's not supposed to be fun. life's supposed to be a constant struggle for survival. not developing any skills to use and build a career from it is like an animal being born crippled in the wild. develop your skills while you still can.

>>713709062
I do what I have to do to survive just like everyone else. The difference here is I spend as much time on me as I possibly can, everything else is secondary. For me, that means time playing videogames as opposed to curing cancer or collecting cars or whatever, I don't give a shit. It's only a difficult concept to grasp for those who have a slave mentality, AKA people who care more about what others think of them than they do themselves.

>>713707854
>woman upset that man is happy without giving her any attention or money
Guy was probably getting streamerbux to subsidize himself so its like her getting pissy about men earning a living.

>>713709062
I'd much rather stay home and play vidja than go out and be a normie, if you feel miserable not having that kind of life, if you feel gaming is a waste of time, well that's a (You) problem right?

>>713709062
>the game company you playing tonight
jeet hands made this image

>>713707739 (OP)
video games taught me english and unironically prepared me for my work as a software dev by teaching me how to learn, improve and manage complex systems. they are also the reason for lots of negative things in my life but still THANK YOU VIDEO GAMES

>>713707739 (OP)
Video games, old video games teach you that you need to put effort to win anything.
However after you learn this lesson, you need to apply it on something.
Don't stop playing, and don't stop playing hard games, but do fucking use your new skill.

>>713709608
Not that anon but having lived for a decade like you described, focused on myself, I found myself wanting more and am now branching out. I look back bitterly at self imagened chances I‘ve not taken and want to torture myself for the potential I have squandered. Is this a sign of mental weakness on my part?

>>713709718
If thats what you got out of it just give up now.

>>713708296
What about those who do this on reverse? I worked a corporate ladder for almost fifteen years and found it intensively unfulfilling and after around two failed attempts at long term relationships (and marriage/building family) i just came full circle and sat back in the chair to enjoy videogames again, like i did in the younger days. I also have more time to focus on other interests of mine such as traveling, outdoorsmanship and caring for my hanging garden, so it feels like 90% of what people peddle for each other is pure and unadultrated misery. If you're the type to enjoy life with your own family or surrounded by people, material wealth and status then do it by all means. In large it is still a recipe for disaster for everybody. People value quite different things in life and some just happen to value a life of quiet solace and solitude. Nothing wrong with that.

>>713709062
>Empty life in front of a PC
>Empty life in a car you can't even fully use unless you have a fancy driver's license and go to a racing track
Neither are very good because it's just consoom and consoom (rich).
You should create something too, not just use.

>>713709062
>>713710064
GADDI LAMBORGHINI

>>713710213
It's not a sign of mental weakness, but it is a symptom of self doubt. Regret is inevitable regardless of the path you choose. It's only natural to look back and imagine what could have been, and therefore to wonder if you chose wrong, especially in times where you find yourself in a position you don't like in the present.

But the truth is there are no perfect answers in life. There are those that branched out and never found what they were looking for, and they curse their past and wish they'd have spent more time giving to themselves. There are those that lived their lives for the future only to feel they lost hold of the present and those that lived in the moment that wished they'd planned more for the future. There's simply no way to know where you'll end up from here. Anyone that claims otherwise is delusional.

In the end all each of us can do is our best for us. If that means searching for accomplishment or glory or living in service to others, then we have to go for it. The point I'm trying to make is that others would tell you that's the only "correct" answer. That's not something we should let others decide for us.

>>713707739 (OP)
Didn't read the post, but it has a good picture, so I'll give you a bump.

Videogames

>>713707739 (OP)
>>713707854
This is only "correct" through fallacies.
>You know that one guy, he played video games and now he's not doing okay. VIDEO GAMES BAD
It's not video games that make people not follow ambition. It's not TV. It's not that "satanic devil worshipping music". It's not hippies. It's not books.
You want children to have that ambition, the desire, the will to be the best that they can be and he know-how to get there you have to give them a proper environment to grow in.
Two loving parents. If life is cruel enough to take one away at least have the remaining one not become a complete mess that forces the child to become what they wanted to become, or drink 24/7 or some other shit.
A good school that teaches the kid how to think instead of shoving retarded ideas into him.
And both of those to show the kid what paths you can take in life, how to make decisions, how to find their passion and how to get it. How the fuck is a kid supposed to dive into "learning a new skill" if they don't know how the fuck to operate life day-to-day.


tl;dr Video games are just another excuse to avoid responsibility and another thing to put the blame on. People turn to video games when they're ALREADY in a position where they don't know what the fuck to do, not the other way around.

>>713711394
Hear hear

>>713707739 (OP)
He's not wrong, but how is that any different than television or social media?

>>713710326
>The_Feminist_TM
That's the only thing to get from it because that's exactly why she is seething.

>>713709062
But I don't want to drive a sports car, let alone in a highly congested city, I want to stay at home and do the hobbies that make me happy, like playing videogames.

This image was made either by a poorfag who thinks you needs to own a company to find happiness, or by a woman.

>>713711970
Television, videogames, social media, and porn. The four nefarious chains holding back the world's greatest geniuses, conquerors and paragons of our time. If it hadn't been for vidya and fapping, those gifted anons could have colonized the Mars by now.

>>713708296
Based asmon

>>713712382
>the Mars
Whoops, got 'Mars' and 'the Moon' mixed up together in my head

>>713711394
This is also a good point. Retards have children but don't want to their life "interrupted" to raise the children so they let the internet and tablets raise the children and wonder why they turn out miserable and apathetic. Those who set out to destroy the nuclear family got what they wanted.

>>713712382
>But I don't want to cure cancer, I want to turn people into dinosaurs

>>713709830
slit your throat pedophile

>>713709062
>not showing ceo getting shot in the city

>>713712382
Aspies would still be treated like garbage by society as a whole even if out curing cancer and solving world hunger instead of building dynasties in Dwarf Fortness or whatever.

>>713710806
I don‘t really have anything further to add but wanted to thank you for your response.

>>713709062
the CEO is rushing to give me my $80 because I pirated his game

>>713713014
>t.

>>713707739 (OP)
feeling bored is a You, problem.

>>713713239
No prob. I hope you find what you're looking for. I know it sounds corny, but if you're here to talk with us, then it's not too late to do whatever it is that you're thinking of. I wish you all the best.

>>713712382
>could have colonized the Mars by now.
Colonizing Mars is impossible without closed-loop sustainable ecological systems, which do not exist because our civilization is the most ecologically ignorant society in human history
Also Mars very likely has an extant biosphere already, so “colonizing” it might be a catastrophic mistake

>>713712572
colonizing the moon is insane, nobody but idiot rightoid mouth-breathers even wants a moon base let alone a colony

I'm ugly. If you're ugly too, you probably are, you understand why we're here and not out there.

>>713710157
>perseverance
you are correct

>>713711394
I disagree

>>713713628
>Mars very likely has an extant biosphere already, so “colonizing” it might be a catastrophic mistake
I'd have to imagine if we had the opportunity to colonize that planet it follows we'd also have the opportunity to catalog what's already there and preserve what might be useful to us in the future. But that may just be naive optimism

>>713713714
Yeah, true that. That's why I switched to Mars and got mixed up on the wording.

>>713707739 (OP)
All things in moderation, including moderation. If there's something important you're putting off with vidya then it's probably a bad idea. But if you're just killing a bit of time or chilling out after a shitty day then who really gives a fuck?

>>713713028
Doesn't happen. They either live in mansions or gated communities, both of which have walls and armed security who blast anyone coming within 20 feet of the perimeter without an invitation if they live anywhere where they have to worry about non-whites being nearby.

>>713707739 (OP)
That's exactly why I draw lewd lolis now, I'm a better man for it.

>>713714391
pics or it doesn't happen

>>713714257
Planetary protection of Mars has already been compromised by old spacecraft which weren’t properly sterilized, it’s possible there are terrestrial extremophiles propagating in the Martian subsurface as we speak.

The worst case scenario is that we get there and realize we can’t distinguish the native Martian biosphere from introduced terrestrial species, or we find there was a Martian biota and we made it extinct.

The big questions Martian life could help answer are:
Did life evolve multiple times, or just once?
Are planetary trees-of-life related and intermingled, or independent and unique?
Is true panspermia a factor?
What role does a biosphere play in the biogeochemical evolution of a planet, especially with regards to atmospheric development?

Venus, Mars and Earth present a natural laboratory for rocky planet evolution, having all started out with broadly similar conditions and ending up wildly divergent.

>>713714391
It's a wonderful thing when one's own passion also brings joy to others. As a fan of such artwork, I give my thanks.

>>713711346
Hexooooo!

kill all normalfags

It's weird being 33 and realizing I have no skills.

>>713714391
i began pre-lock down and i still feel like draw like shit. Heck, i even fear sketching as the further i go the more i get the loser dilemma and end up fucking up a "finished" drawing.

And it all started because i wanted to draw my own Midna porn....*sigh*

>Im just doing what makes me happy, all the time. That’s the only thing that matters!
>(isn’t even actually happy)

>>713715297
Same. The only thing I really have going for me is that i'm a damn decent cook, but I can't even change a tire.

>>713715297
Shitposting is a skill. It's all about how you market yourself

>>713715297
30+ year old people weird me out. Like wtf you mean you've been sentient for 20+ years.

>>713707739 (OP)
thats not satan's quote at all just the first part a bit

>>713715297
>Realized that I had no hobbies, skills or talents at 15 and vowed to change that.
>12 years later and nothing has changed.
I have an awful feeling that I am not capable of saving myself.

>>713716082
>(isn’t even actually happy)
>I cannot imagine being happy, therefore I know that you, who I think myself better than, couldn't possibly be happy.

>>713708296
If he was really good and can afford a set up like that he's probably winning decent cash to support his parents and himself just fine. Retarded image

>>713716378
I think that's Randy talking and it's from a different episode than the addiction one unless I'm remembering wrong. Which is a high possibility.

>>713707739 (OP)
leisure time ais an extreme privilege in the grand scheme of human History. You might as well enjoy it in the only time it is abundant.

>>713715297
23-33 was a constant downward spiral for me, I have worse skills and physical/mental health now than ever in my life
I used to be a competent amateur engineer and chemist, now I struggle to do literally anything because of trauma brain damage
my nf is way worse though, he’s been addicted to benzodiazapenes for nearly a decade and it’s left him an empty husk of a person with probably a fraction of the brainpower he used to have and now that he’s effectively an idiot and is physically incapable of caring about anything he’s turning into a really shitty rightwing meme moron
if god had any mercy he’d burn benzo manufacturers alive

I wonder if there will ever be another South Park RPG

>>713717079
>leisure time ais an extreme privilege in the grand scheme of human History. You might as well enjoy it in the only time it is abundant.
That’s an absolute lie, you know nothing whatsoever about human history and the labor/leisure dichotomy.

>>713711970
the quote is about weed originally, so it can be applied to literally anything that is a time wasting activity without any rewards

>>713715297
Yeah. I'm 34 and just got my driver's license now. I had to patch some drywall and thank god Youtube exists or I would have never been able to do it.

>>713707739 (OP)
I imagine it's the little girl from your picture saying that quote. She is beautiful and wise.

>>713717229
cunny wendy.

>>713717339
More games should feature little girls calmly providing advice and guidance.

>>713717543
i don't want to see little girls suffer

>>713716341
You wonder until you get there and think "Fuck". The next milestone is late 40s when the midlife crisis starts kicking in.

>>713717339
>quote have "you should"
>wise
lol
lmao even

>>713717318
thanks to relentless mental breakdowns and domestic violence I am a drywall expert
That shit they put in American houses is literally toxic waste from coal flumes, you need to get real gypsum plaster and mix your own, works WAY better

>>713717543
I agree, as long as it comes off as genuinely helpful and not smug or snarky. I can guarantee more people wouldn't immediately get defensive or completely disregard it.

>>713707739 (OP)
Or, get this: I don't want to learn new skills or discover something new. Not everyone enjoys that in their life nor finds inspiration in doing so. When people say they enjoy hiking, sports, working out, or anything else I can't relate to those because it baffles me to enjoy spending time doing them. I can relate to enjoying something, but those things specifically are so beyond uninteresting and boring to me that I do not care to invest my time into them and I don't.

I have loved video games since I was introduced to them and that hasn't changed, and in order to love them I have been forced to keep up with technological trends and be interested in different cultures to broaden my horizons. This doesn't mean that if I didn't play Guitar Hero I would suddenly enjoy playing an actual guitar or have the hand-eye coordination to do so.

Why does everyone assume everyone wants to achieve greatness instead of just leading a respectable life where you help people and enjoy what you like? Why do I have to actively do something like fish or hike or play sports in order to feel fulfilled when I already feel fulfilled just playing video games, card games, reading books, and watching TV and movies? Why can't I talk to people in these groups and help people of my own volition and leave it at that? Why do I suddenly need to bench press 450 pounds, run a marathon, and play five instruments in order to "feel fulfilled"? I could not imagine a more boring and unfulfilling life personally.

I thin I'm psychologically broken because everything productive feels like a job. There's always the sense that in trying to learn a skill, there's an underlying impurity to it, as if the interest in these skills only exists because of their practicality. That's not inherently a bad thing, but it's hard to stay interested in something that feels like just another chore.

>>713713850
and he’s the sheriff

/v/ in general is more reasonable about this than I would have thought. It's a really pleasant surprise.

>>713718150
I think we all chase meaning in some way or form and part of that process is longing for that which you cannot have. How we face this defines how we live. You can chase what others tell you too, you can choose your own path and some aren't prepared to commit to any path.

>>713709558
>develop your skills while you still can.
Why? If life is supposed to be devoid of joy then it has no value whatsoever b

>>713716413
I’m amazed you had that level of self-awareness at 15.
It wasn’t until I graduated Uni with a garbage meme degree in a field I neither like nor care about and realized I would either a NEET or working dead end minimum wage jobs the rest of my days that it occurred to me I wasted my whole life.

>>713718375
anon is the smartest man on the internet

>>713708296
>not goldfarming and earning Bitcoin when it was only a couple hundred bucks

>>713718774
I managed to luck out and break out of the "lifetime of dead end jobs" and laded a nice corporate position(and don't let anyone tell you it's work ethic or being the best drone that lands you these roles, it's either connections or a lucky break) making decent money, but I have no interest in marrying and supporting thoroughly used goods or picking up hobbies I don't give a shit about just to impress a better caliber of woman. That drive is 100% dead in me, I unironically just want to play video games and take it easy.

>>713707739 (OP)
You just replaced "drugs" with video games you gay retard

>>713720120
This is pretty much exactly where I am minus the landing a decent job part

>>713718738
You can find joy in life once you're already successful enough. But while you're not, videogames only get in the way. human beings shouldn't know joy until after they got their lives together. Unless you're a game developer and play vidya to use them as reference for your own game, or make a living out of entertainment. Now that i put it into words I feel like that falls into hypocrisy since you can only be successful by developing games if you know about vidya beforehand, but what I was trynna say is that you shouldn't waste your life with meaningless fun.

>>713709345
>you know, the ceo of the company that made my shaving razor drives a nice sports car too
not mine. I use a straight razor.
the solution is to only engage with companies with companies that treat you with respect. It can be done. Everything you can't: Buy used. Don't be the sucker paying for other people to fuck your wallet.

>>713718326
Same, I'm envious of people that were genuinely passionate about one thing or another as kids and it just so happened to also be lucrative/useful in some way.

>>713710213
This is a sign you have a brain. Do you know what you get for a lifetime of isolation? More isolation.

>>713723067
That works out quite nicely for the person that enjoys isolation.

>>713716341
I’m 32 and a lot of the time when I look back I feel like when I was below 24 or so I was basically not an actual person

>>713707739 (OP)
>No, Stan, don't have fun, you should work, all the time. Why? For the sake of work, of course!

I'm really sad about all those people who denied themselves fun and relax for so long that they are no longer capable of enjoying themselves.

>>713707739 (OP)
normies are not good at anything either, we live in a service/grift based economy where the richest people are the ones who are scamming most effectively. Normies that think they're above gamers when all they do is watch tv/tiktok are the worst. I won't even talk about women that say this.

>>713709062
this is such a third world mentality. Why do I give a fuck what kind of car some guy drives for fun? If he has fun driving lambos and I have fun catching apes then we both win.

But I want to play vidya, I want to draw, I don't want to be productive! I'm tired of being a cog in the machine that you'll discard when I break. No thanks! Let me enjoy my lifetime!

>>713709345
The idea is that instead of wasting time playing games, you're the one that should be making games for the dumb cattle to waste their money on while you pile on $$$

>>713713320
how the fuck did this guy give a stick figure an ass

>>713711394
based sensical pov

>>713722336
I never developed any of your stupid skills, I just write shitty and low effort fantasy web novels and earn thousands a month, and I keep enjoying a life.
What do you have to say about that, huh?

>>713724263
You're goddamn right.

>>713714257
>>713713628
It literally doesn't have the gravity to hold a dense atmosphere. It's baffling why this is so seldom mentioned. There is literally nothing you could do to create a habitable atmosphere on mars, all you could do is live in tiny bubbles.

why people don't use the same logic towards other forms of entertainment? Or are we supposed to believe all entertainment is bad and we should look for better ways to earn money for Shekelstein?

>>713711394
Well MY life is fucked up and it can't be because my willpower is low, or because I didn't apply myself correctly, or because bad actors interfered with my development and made my life harder, I need to blame one of the things I enjoy both as a form of self loathing and so I can try to tear down and demoralize anyone engaging in the same stuff I do so they don't prove me wrong and find success despite their seemingly childish hobbies FUCK

normies always talk about this self improvement bullshit yet they don't actually improve themselves in any meaningful way

>>713724910
>There is literally nothing you could do to create a habitable atmosphere on mars
Terraform it
>what does that mean?
Science stuff with water and magnets

notice how all these points are contributing to the system that doesn't give a fuck about you and demonizes entertainment making sure you are permanently slave driving yourself

>>713709062
Would be cool to own an Alpine A110

sure thing mr Shekelstein I will gladly sacrifice my life for your system!

>>713724367
The CEO of a game company did not get their start making games in their basement. They were CEO of a pharmaceutical company, then a CEO of a chinese fast food restaurant chain, and after running some/all of those companies to the ground and barely knowing what their companies even did, they were appointed to this position.

>>713725356
Calvinism, dude. Praise the holy worker drone for his drudgery is righteous

>>713716341
you are making hell of an assumption with the sentient part

>>713707854
If this guy played real guitar she would instead make fun of him for being a nerd that’s only learning guitar so he can get in women’s’ pants

>>713725330
Unless you can put a small black hole in the center of mars without destroying the planet somehow, it's not happening.

>>713725125
>willpower is low
>don't have enough willpower to make myself get more
Is it over for me?

I need more bocchi in the /v/ thread

>>713707854
The_ThotTM is wrong in that even if he put all that into playing a real guitar, there's no guarantee he'll be any more than average at it. If you're average at something, it's basically the same as not doing it at all.

>>713725837
No. It'll be hard though.
Willpower comes in waves. It's up to you to realize when you're feeling well enough that you're capable of lifting yourself up. It doesn't need to be all the time, but when you can help yourself, go for it. a bit at a time will make you stronger even if it takes years.
You could get lucky and find a close friend or lover or caring family member who's willing to help you, but you'd have to make sure not to drag them down with you when shit goes poorly. You gotta help other people help you in that case, but you can manage to find your way in isolation.

Stop necrobumping your shit thread, faggot OP

>>713716341
>sentient
that's a bit of a stretch.
I wish I could run the clock back and try it all again but that's not how life works.

Gay thread. Etrian 6 doko?

>>713723776
0-12 might as well not be real
>12-24
misery porn
>24+
real shit

>>713722336
See but that's not what you said at first. Your wording makes it seem like you should never be having fun ever, and just keep grinding something, most likely yourself until you become bonemeal.

>>713727012
>he doesn't know

>>713727290
Owari desuwa

>>713708296
>This is the guy sweating his ass off playing whatever the FOTP assassin pick is, desperately trying to escape Plat 1 while you just have fun with your duo buddy
Sucks to suck. Remember to call and/or hug your parents today anons.

>>713724672
>or make a living out of entertainment
I mean you kinda are doing what he says.

>>713727012
The modern gamer can barely read, we are not getting EO6. The fabric of humanity is withering and EO is just another victim, kids are on their shitphones and are dumber than ever, middle class is already a concept and not a reality, books are for losers and video games are movies

2 of the best RPGs released in the last decade don't even have RPG mechanics, they are just a dodge a slow pellet slop and parry slop garbage for normalfags and fags.

>>713711394
>What actually matters is parenting and having a non-retarded education system
WHAT THE FRICK, BAN THIS HECKIN' BIGOT NOW!

>>713724202
>if other man happy, me no happy, even if I happy before knowing this, i can not happy be if other man happier
>I DO NOT WANT TO BE AS HAPPY AS HIM! I JUST WANT HIM TO BE MISERABLE LIKE ME!
I live in Argentina, and this is how brown people that vote for commies think.

>ANOTHER pedophile thread
This is why nobody uses /v/ anymore btw.

>>713707739 (OP)
On paper this is true, but videogames get boring fast. Learning a skill takes years of dedication, so the real hurdle is staying committed and knowing how to overcome obstacles like demotivation, failure, schedule conflict/committments or other issues.

>>713717230
>muh retvrn to old days
Stop. We live in unprecedented amazing times

>>713728660
how's the third imf loan going for you?

>>713729482
Overall debt is going down and every statistic is improving considerably. Only /pol/troon brownoids deny this.

>>713724672
>I just write shitty and low effort fantasy web novels and earn thousands a month,
No way that’s feasible now AIslop is a thing

>>713729710
Shithole of a country
Shitty people
Not relevant to the thread

>>713725356
Of course. The powers that be are getting increasingly worried about people checking out from society.

>>713730249
Rent free

>>713714391
where is the proof??

>>713731624
In the pudding

>>713707739 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd4cASkBAp0
The quote was referring to weed not video games. Who are you crapping, anon?

>>713715153
This but lolifags

>>713722401
>Buy used.
This. I'll be damned if I fund any billiionaires. I got the Thinkpad I'm typing this on from a Goodwill for $30. I will never buy a new product, ever. I save money and make sure all these companies I hate never see a dime from my wallet.

>>713707739 (OP)
I learned new skills and continue to do so. I got in shape and continue to progress toward related goals. I had sex (and haven't kept up with that one).
Despite engaging in an that, video games still feel worth paying to me. I enjoy them. It turns out that you can do more that one thing with spare time.