Thread 713721496

Is it true that this was the last good pokemon game?

>>713721496 (OP)
No, that was White 2.

Anyone playing pic related? really enjoying it so far except for wandering inescapable pokemon that are 20 levels above me
>>713721496 (OP)
yes

Yes

>>713721496 (OP)
Yes.

unfortunately yes

>>713721496 (OP)
Correct.
It was the most effort gamefreak put and it sold the least
Can't blame them for phoning it in

>>713721496 (OP)
It was the last one that had any challenge. Then X&Y/S&M came along and took a game made for older children and teenagers and turned it into a game for toddlers. The pixel art was also kino compared to 3D models.

>>713721496 (OP)
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>>713722741
>>713723002
>>>/vp/

>>713722741
I don't even dislike the game but calling it the most effort Game Freak's ever put in when it features 0 new Pokemon and reuses 95% of its world map is a bit of a laugh.

>>713721496 (OP)
S&M had potential with a unique concept, but the execution wasn't as good.
B2W2 just checked all the fucking boxes somehow, I don't know how you can top it.

>>713723226
>saar pleas e do the needful and make room for my sloppa threads
mass replying counts as spam/flooding btw

>>713721496 (OP)
Yes, it's funny in retrospect because Gen 5 received some petty complaints back in the time.

Now the new Pokemon games are released straight up broken and ugly.

>>713721496 (OP)
Yes

>>713723281
I'm talking broadly about the entire gen

>>713721496 (OP)
Yes

>>713721496 (OP)
no, that'd be emerald

scarlet and violet are great. overworld encounters are the second best thing to happen to the franchise, after the physical/special split. it lags in the overworld and that sucks. but it's better on the switch 2, and that's truly the only big downside.

It's refreshing seeing people have reasonable takes here when on vp an identical post would lead to nothing but shitflinging. Rare based v moment

>>713721496 (OP)
That was HGSS

>>713721496 (OP)
Yes

Since japs love Hawaii they gavw Alola a ton of soul. Say what you will about the gameplay, but everything else was wonderful.

>>713721496 (OP)
no

>>713723649
I liked SV too. My favorite part about pokemon games is collecting, so being able to run around quickballing everything in sight and getting rewards for it was extremely fun.

>>713721496 (OP)
Eh, I liked X/Y quite a bit

>>713723904
>the gameplay is bad but its okay because mediocre gamefreak beach graphics
ah yes

>Daycare in the post-game
Close but no cigar

>>713724247
>the gameplay is bad
bw2 in a nutshell

I'm currently playing Sword and I think it's garbage, not sure if I should drop or stick with it a bit more.

>>713721496 (OP)
It was in Gen 3 that they started taking things way for no reason (online, through mobile adapter GB, day/night cycle removed), but this was the last time they went back and added more post-game, in this case the Pokémon World Tournament. although less to do there than in the Emerald Battle Frontier.

>>713724840
>they added more postgame by reducing the postgame

>>713723376
>mass replying counts as spam/flooding btw

>>713724812
drop it, it doesn't get better it only gets worse

>>713724812
really didn't enjoy swsh. would recommend you check out s/v if you enjoy the more modern gameplay and 3D. s/v takes the few things swsh does good and does them better.

>>713721726
>pic
Explain
Did someone actually romhack a good blobber? I'm so starved for more Etriam that I'm interested.

The only truly bad Pokemon games I have played were BDSP and Let's Go. Let's Go being so bad of course that it is the only regional dex on the Switch games I have not completed in HOME. All of the other ones I have found to have redeeming qualities or genuinely good games. Sword for example got a lot of shit for the dexcut (even when it wasn't even the game that started it) but I felt that it was inline and the perfect balance between QoL and training your Pokemon, especially against the feedback loop of the online play which was a major focus with the introduction of ranks. Plus there were varied Battle Competitions, Scarlet and Violet have had exactly one Battle Competition that was different than "regional dex" or current VGC rulesets. I actually really liked Sword and used PokeJobs so much that I have tons of Pokemon at level 100 in HOME (at least 400). Also I did a lot of Trainer Card exchanges with people in college and played a fair amount of Endless Dynamax Adventures to extend my record.
I think when people declare [game in series] is the best in Pokemon's history, it's ultimately extremely subjective based on a few bits of criteria that aren't there in the next games. Lots of people for example miss Battle Facilities, and I do too, but there's so much more to even Scarlet and Violet than just having another Battle Tower that I'm even playing that still.
>>713723297
Leaks about Sun/Moon lead me to believe that we were absolutely robbed in that generation and it was only half rectified in Ultra Sun/Moon.

>>713721496 (OP)
as a matter of fact, yes

>>713724812
if anything it only gets more rushed and hamfirsted as it goes on, the story climax is complete nonsense with terrible pacing

>>713725326
I don't know what any of these words mean.

>>713725326
I've never played etrian odyssey so i cant say how similar it is to it, but the romhack is really good

>>713725934
>blobber
Term for grid based dungeon crawlers
>Etriam
Cutesy name the Etrian Odyssey community uses to describe the series as a whole or individual portraits/characters. The girl on the cover is the avatar of a sentient Yggdrassil from Etrian Odyssey Nexus.
>>713726112
I see, I'll check it out either way.

>>713723631
>gen 5 is the best
talks exclusively about gen 6
????

>>713722741
>it sold the least
The game that sold the least was Emerald, which to this day is still the best game in the series.

I can forgive gen 6 because it was both their first entry in 3d and on a new console, I mean look at how godawful base DP are. Plus ORAS had a fair bit of soul in how they tried to make it its own thing(looking at you BDSP) even if it didn't quite hit the mark. But then gen 7 is where you realize they weren't going to get much better.

>>713721496 (OP)
Yes, i liked it a lot

>>713726739
I stand corrected
You see my point, still

>>713728435
>even the worst selling game is at 6 million
Damn Pokemon just has the fucking sauce.

>>713730526
>Crystal is the worst selling
pokemon crystal.. my beloved

>>713724247
The gameplay isn't even bad. It's just not as difficult. There's always online anyway, pompous fuck.

>>713721496 (OP)
Gen 6 is fucking kino and you're a retard if you think otherwise

>>713721496 (OP)
I loved that game as a child, I had hundreds of hours in it. I still remember how I had a Sneasel that would never fucking evolve, even though it had that one claw item. I should probably play Black 1 one of these days,
never did that for some reason. I don't think I enjoyed any other Pokémon game like it, but that might just be my nostalgia talking

>>713726859
This.

>>713721496 (OP)
I think every Pokemon game is somewhat worth playing even up to now.
One thing I love about the series is that it always does something different even now.
From the slimy urban underground of Kanto to the chilled out countryside of Johto, Hoenn's fantastical adventure vibe and Sinnoh's more swampy and ragged locales.
None of the games really feel like rethreads despite the series often getting accused of regurgitating the same content over and over again.
Kalos was obviously a big showcase game for Pokemon so the region is very focused on aesthetics - glitz and glamour are what's valued most.
In Alola it's very focused on culture so you spend a LOT of time speaking to all the different inhabitants of the region.
And in Galar the whole thing is ostensibly about consumerism, with a heavy focus on image and marketing and PR with stuff like sponsors, trainer cards and just Pokemon and gym leader merch everywhere.
Obviously some of these are gonna resonate more with some players than others but I think it's commendable that Pokemon never really settled into a groove of what its games should feel like.

>>713721496 (OP)
This cutoff point seems to keep getting pushed forward as the years go by. As for me, Emerald was the last pokemon game I was able to truly enjoy, and I really tried to get into later entries.

>>713721496 (OP)
Pretty much yeah. I enjoyed both BW and BW2, tho the later a bit more. In retrospective, both stories were amazing and some of the best the franchise has ever told. The graphics were full of sovl if a little quirky.
Having played all gens 1 - 5 I judged them very harshly in my genwunner mentality. But then came XY and holy fuck... they were bad. They threw any semblance of maturity or story forwardness out the window. Didn't even finish them. And now all new gens seem full of low effort childish themes.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>713721496 (OP)
yes, but the pokemon art was already in decline.

The Pokemon game that was out when you were 12 will be the last "good game" to you.

>>713735637
Loved the games that came out when I was 16, thoughbeit.

Sun and Moon felt somewhat fresh and had a lout of soul and attention to detail put into them. Too bad that it's a slog and way too slow to play through with way too much handholding and dialogue, long laggy animations and even the new Alola Pokemon are slow due to having slow speed stats.

>>713735637
For me it was 14

>>713735637
But DP were terrible and i knew it even then

>>713735637
I played BW2 at 20yo and it's still my favorite. Gen 2 and 3 are fantastic and full of nostalgia for me but BW2 were a step up imo.

>>713721496 (OP)
no, pokemon unbound was the last good one

>>713735637
HGSS came out when I was in high school though.