>literally the richest, greediest corporation on the planet
>responsible for paid online multiplayer becoming a thing
>responsible for bringing normalfags into gaming en masse via xbox live and halo
>the kinect and E3 2013 debacles
>phil spencer is a soulless corporate ghoul wearing a human's skin
>have been trying since 2018 to turn the entire gaming industry into a netflix/spotify style "software as a service" hellscape via game pass
>are aggressively pushing AI slop into all their games and doing embarrassing tech demos like that "fully AI-generated quake" that didn't even work correctly
>constantly laying off employees despite - i repeat once again - being the richest corporation on the planet
>are/were a leading figure in the push for "wokeness" and californian-style culture in video games (not everybody cares about this, but /v/ should)
>attempted to monopolize the gaming industry with the bethesda and activision purchases

Ask people to name the video game corporations they hate most and they'll point out Nintendo or Sony, or the usual names like Ubisoft, EA, or predatory mobile developers. But nobody will say Microsoft.

Nothing spelled this out more than earlier this year, when Nintendo announced $80 games and were eviscerated for weeks over it, and then Microsoft announced $80 games and didn't receive even a peep of criticism.

It's astounding to me that this company isn't the #1 public enemy for all gamers at this point.

>>713732812 (OP)
Because they were the home team.

Dude over the last 10 years xbox bought like 2 dozen studios, announced 2 dozen games and have nothing to show for it. They are already giving their studios so much rope that they are spending 4, 5 years in pre-production bumbling around cooking up ideas and scrapping them basically throwing years of work into the trash. What more do you want?


>no state of decay 3
>no perfect dark
>no gears e day
>no fable
>no everwild
>no fallout
>no elder scrolls
>no routine

All games that have been in development forever and they still have nothing.

But as long as they have 30 million gamepass subscribers the whole xbox division remains profitable.

>>713732812 (OP)
I think it's just that most people don't take Xbox seriously anymore, it would be like getting angry at a mongoloid kid for painting the walls with shit, you know it's horrible, but you just can't help but feel empty

>>713732812 (OP)
I buy only american

>>713732812 (OP)
because xbox is mostly irrelevant and doesn't have exclusive first party games for people to rally around/fight over and they haven't for a long time. nintendo and sony do, which is why you have fanboys making switch 2 is a flop and snoy pride month threads but nothing for xbox

>>713733030
Part of it might be that, but Xbox also genuinely seem to have a scary amount of shills online.

Particularly whenever Goy Pass comes up in conversation, shills always start crawling out of the woodwork parroting the usual propaganda about it being "the best deal in gaming" or telling you how much money they allegedly saved by never buying games anymore.

Knowing Micro$oft I don't know if those are real people, or AI chatbots programmed to astroturf online gaming conversations for propaganda purposes.

>>713732812 (OP)
Oh, don't worry, I completely hate them. I'm glad Xbox is finally dying. PlayStation is next.

>>713732812 (OP)
>then Microsoft announced $80 games and didn't receive even a peep of criticism
Who's paying full price for Microsoft games though?

>>713732812 (OP)
I mean sure but the Xbox brand really isn’t the powerhouse it once was, I’d argue that it’s on its last legs. “Hating” Xbox just seems like a waste of time now.

>>713733526
This, why do you think they're putting everything on Ps and PC now?

>>713733526
I just hope when Xbox finally dies Microsoft lets me keep my game library on my Series S. Too many 360 games on my backlog I haven’t played yet

>>713733756
They want you to pay $800 to $1000+ for that.

they also ruined rare

>>713733756
>he thinks that the company that made paying for the privilege of using your internet will let him have that little bit of happiness
Lmao

>>713732812 (OP)
It's the only platform where racists can be themselves

>>713732812 (OP)
Game Pass and now Steam integration.

What the FUCK do Sony and Nintendo have on that?

>>713734535
A cheaper price, and for Nintendo alone, exclusives built for the machine.

>>713732812 (OP)
>responsible for bringing normalfags into gaming en masse via xbox live and halo
That was Sony with Playstation 1

>>713734745
What cheaper price? Sony doesn't put their games on PSN. You're fucked out of options.
Nintendo doesn't put them in their service either.

>>713734535
Game Pass is (potentially) the worst thing to ever happen to the gaming industry.

If Microsoft were to ever achieve their goal of 100 million+ subscribers, you would see gaming go down the same path that the music and TV/movie industries did with Spotify and Netflix, with games as individual products being completely devalued and instead turned into throwaway background entertainment available only on subscription services. It would become dramatically harder for anyone to make money off of their games unless they become favored by the Game Pass algorithm or get a marketing deal with Microsoft.

Because Xbox is so fucking dead that no one even bothers thinking about them anymore.

xbox COULD have a resurgence

>>713732812 (OP)
Everyone hates Microsoft and a lot of people tend to be vocal about it.
If you're not seeing it, you must be browsing the comment sections on huge social media sites where Microsoft can send out shills to sway discourse.

Go to /g/ or any tech centric community, and you will see overwhelming hatred for Microsoft.
Gamers, generally, do not care about what companies do outside of their offerings because they are stupid goypigs. Quite literally the dumbest consumer group on the face of the planet.

>>713734206
Xbox live originally wasnt just "paying to use your own internet". Was more to it then that and though you would scoff at the features its important to understand that none of them were standard at the time. Teamspeak was just a year old when live launched, making it's voice chat an extremely important perk. Voip was god awful. A unified friends list outside of a single publishers game was unheard of. Steam didnt even exist yet, so the idea of downloading dlc from a centralized, relatively reliable service was enough to be considered innovative. Being broadband capable at the time it launched was another reason people were more then happy to pay. For many it was the first time they got to see actual benefits from having broadband, besides slightly faster browsing, as most of their browsing and internet activities were kneecapped by web services being built for dial-up users in mind.
It's shitty that its now become standard to pay for something that is now a given, but if you take a moment to look at what xbox live actually was when it launched and compared it to similar systems, you can see why it became standard. It's not Microsoft fault they built something people were willing to pay for, and it certainly isn't Microsoft fault that their competitors showed them that they didn't need to bother putting in effort if they wanted to charge people.

>>713735718
>Go to /g/ or any tech centric community, and you will see overwhelming hatred for Microsoft.
/g/ is full of nothing but shills for every big tech company and especially Micro$oft. Maybe 10 years ago it was different there, but not now.

>why aren't
ESLs hate Microsoft?

>>713732812 (OP)
they should be hated for paying vidya press like this:
https://www.trueachievements.com/news/diablo-4-ps-plus

PURE MENTAL ILLNESS, I despise microsoft (but I love xbox, at least old xbox)

>>713732812 (OP)
Because they're irrelevant in the industry. The only time they weren't is in the first half of the 360's life cycle and that console actually had games back then. On pc they dominate the OS market but it's still Steam that managed to conquer gaming on it.

I do think Microsoft sucks for neglecting the Conker and Banjo IPs after acquiring Rare though, but still overall irrelevant.

>>713735072
>Game Pass is (potentially) the worst thing to ever happen to the gaming industry.
If you're a Snoy, that might be true.

>>713732812 (OP)
xbox is a literal who in the gaming space, that's why.
Windows however, is different.

>>713736926
If you're anybody who actually cares about games, it's definitely true.

Have a read about the negative repercussions Spotify has had on the music industry over the past 15 years and you might understand what I mean.

>>713732812 (OP)
>literally the richest, greediest corporation on the planet
Sorry friend, this title belongs to Nvidia since today.

>>713734952
Your future Xboxes will cost $800-$1000+, shilly shill shill.

>>713737039
Noone uses the Microsoft Store thoughbeit.

>>713732812 (OP)
That's because nobody cares about Xbox anymore. Even the Series X's initial defenders have turned against Microsoft nowadays.

>>713735620
>NAME
>NAME X
they need to stop this fucking shit, what is their hardon with X?

>>713733030
>>713733369
Not really shills, it's just that xbox is irrelevant as fuck. It's nothing like the mongoloid kid painting with shit, it's like seeing news pop up about some rape or acid attack in India or hearing about some copper thief in Africa getting stoned to death. There's no crusade about them because nobody cares. Not even the most diehard libtard online will care either. Nobody literally gives a shit cause there's nobody TO give a shit.

>>713732812 (OP)
i don't give a fuck, I like my Xbox and I am not buying a troonstation. Simple as.

Legit NO ONE knows who xbox is outside of the US and UK anymore
The brand has fucking died and windows is only relevant because its windows

But unlike apple no one fucking uses the microsoft/xbox pc app too

>>713735620
It's over, anon, no one is dropping $1000 for this when the Switch 2 and Steam Deck are cheaper, no one is wasting their time and energy using Windows for gaming when SteamOS exist. Microsoft Gaming is dead and it was killed by Microsoft's incompetence. They're too corporate, too communist, and too stupid. They are done.

>>713737061
I care about playing them. lol You should to.
In fact, you've been repeating that same talk for years now. Game Pass has only been improving.
>>713737254
My PC is a Xbox. XD

IS YOUR PC A FUCKING PS5 OR A SHITENDO?!
No, of course it isn't. You pay that sweet monthly sub just for one device and have nothing to play in it.

>>713733369
It's just a big online marketing department. Nothing more or less.

>>713735620
I haven't jumped onto the handheld train yet and I'm willing to wait for reviews on these.
Although desu I'm skeptical

>>713738231
Even owning a PC, what retard will use the Xbox app over Steam?

microsoft’s only original franchise I like was technically done by another company under contract, causing microsoft to destroy its legacy when the contract ended (they didn’t renew because microsoft is a shitty and evil company)
fuck ‘em

>>713732812 (OP)
All of my rage for Microsoft is concentrated towards Windows, not towards a console i have yet to touch

>>713732812 (OP)
They're one of the most hated corporations in the world but they give normies shitty games with a monthly subscription so people are more forgiving

>>713738231
>In fact, you've been repeating that same talk for years now.
Because it's correct.

Nobody should want games to turn into "software as a service", it's not a healthy thing for a media industry.

When Spotify replaced CD/iTunes sales, the music industry transformed into one where the average mid-sized band cannot make any notable money off of their music anymore, while the big artists (eg. your Taylor Swifts, Drakes) got bigger as they were still able to make metric fucktons off of touring.

What you would have with gaming if Game Pass took over is a similar situation. If you're a huge franchise like GTA, CoD or Assassin's Creed, you're fine. If you get a marketing deal with Microsoft to get prime placement at the top of the Game Pass pages, you're golden. But if you're anybody else, you're at the mercy of the algorithm and you're likely to only make a pittance from your game. Even mid-sized AA developers could be squeezed out.

And all of this isn't even mentioning the horrific implications for the consumer of living in a world where games are no longer a purchased product. Music fans regularly complain when a song or album they like disappears off Spotify due to some obscure licensing reasons. In a world where Microsoft won, you'd have people in 2030 lamenting how they can't play one of their favorite games anymore because it vanished from Game Pass.

>>713739134
Windows used to be good until they retardproofed the OS to the point it's basically fucking useless for doing anything outside of its scope
Which now is mostly open browser or double click desktop shortcut

>>713732812 (OP)
because they're completely inept and killed their own position in the industry with unforced errors

>>713732812 (OP)
Almost the entire world hates them because Sony marketed to the turdworld and they did not.

>>713732812 (OP)
They don't make games. Nothing to discuss.

>Fable
>Gears
>Halo
>Forza
>Team Ninja
The downfall of Xbox really should be studied. I’m not saying the titles above were anything to write home about (I threw in Team Ninja just because) but they were absolutely moving 360 units. Xbox One really should go down as one of the worst consoles of all time.

>>713740120
I live in the UK and this is completely wrong. Xbox does better than in most other countries but they have never been anywhere near beating PS5.

>>713732812 (OP)
Probably because Sony is by far worse than all of that shit you listed but you're a retarded fanboy so you'll ignore that.

>>713732812 (OP)
they're hated by being utterly irrelevant

>>713732812 (OP)
Nobody buys their consoles. I don't know what else you want people to do.

>>713740373
Xbox only succeeded in the early years cause Microsoft seemed to give them relative free reign. I believe a lot of the people at Xbox in the early years were total nerds who understood the gaming industry on a more personal level.

Once the 360 started taking off the moneymen took notice and started asking questions like "Couldn't we be making even more money if we copied what the Wii is doing?" And at that point they were fucked, Xbox just became another soulless Microshit product like Windows.

>>713733030
This.
They're not even in the conversation the vast majority of the time other then "Oh yeah, they still do consoles."
They're straight up irrelevant in the gaming sphere. And no, Windows =/= Xbox. Thats a whole other topic.

>they delayed w10 eos again

lmaoooooo

The worst thing Microsoft did was introduce the achievement system.

>>713733369
>but Xbox also genuinely seem to have a scary amount of shills online.
They don't exist and anyone who even says a single thing positively or even neutral, you morons will label as a shill for anything. Please kill yourself.

>>713733369
>parroting the usual propaganda about it being "the best deal in gaming" or telling you how much money they allegedly saved by never buying games anymore.
that's objectively true though. i'm not even a goypass user because i have the tip of Gabe's cock getting burnt by my stomach acid, but it is factual that you can spend $15 a month and have access to exponentially more games than you could possibly buy

>>713741105
They still exist, mostly on Reddit funnily enough.

>>713732812 (OP)
On the contrary: Xbox is overhated because they’re not Japanese.

Search your heart, you know it’s true.

>>713734836
Shhh, this is obviously a fucking retarded Snoy who thinks the PS2 didn't bring in millions of normalfags with it's DVD player either.

>>713741092
achievements are cool, tying them to gamerscore was the kiked part

>>713732812 (OP)
the competition is worse

>>713739535
I can still play CDs from 20 years ago. But I cannot play none of my 50+ DS games simply because I don't own a fucking DS anymore.

So, quiet, you fucking retard. The music industry isn't like bibeogames.
I can't even fucking plug my Mega Drive to my current TV and it wouldn't even look good if I could. But my Metallica albums are still fine on anything that plays a CD.

>>713741173
You aren't going to actually play all of those games though.

I think there's a psychological problem with Game Pass where it's encouraging people to rush through games as fast as possible and drop them. Or even worse, try them out for a few hours and never finish them.

When you really love a game you want to own it and replay it again over the years. I find it really sad how Game Pass fanatics don't get to experience that anymore. They seem to have a very shallow enjoyment of gaming.

My nephews literally do not know what an Xbox is.

Shit is weird. They have a Switch, know a Playstation, and even play friendsloppa on Steam when they're not playing Roblox. But Xbox and even Gamepass? Zero clue.

>>713732812 (OP)
>>responsible for paid online multiplayer becoming a thing
Sega did that earlier

>>713741339
>I can still play CDs from 20 years ago. But I cannot play none of my 50+ DS games simply because I don't own a fucking DS anymore.
It's the same thing, is it not? A lot of people don't own CD players anymore. And the typical PC or laptop now comes with no disc drive.

IIRC even the PS5 can't play CDs despite the fact it could easily have capability to do so.

>>713741373
>They seem to have a very shallow enjoyment of gaming.
As opposed to buying a bunch of 89 cent games or $2 games on Steam and letting them sit in a backlog until you die?

>>713741217
Their hate is deserved, te ex-Xbot.

>>713740642
>were total nerds who understood the gaming industry on a more personal level.
I feel like this is the case with so many developers today. Watch the Halo 2 documentary and tell me that modern Bungie is even remotely close to what they were
https://youtu.be/JFwrqepqJ7M?feature=shared

>>713741492
Shut the fuck up you reeeeeeeeeeeeeetard. Even vinyls are still being sold.

>>713732812 (OP)
Most don't even care about MS to hate them.

>>713741217
Factual post

>>713741217
The same thing with EA if they were japs everyone would be saying how great and prosperous all their moves have been.

>>713732812 (OP)
because no one expected anything more from MS than what they did, everyone knows they're shit and were shit and are going to continue to be shit, and due to said shittiness they're a joke in the console space that is difficult to take seriously

>>713741492
Sorry I called you a retard btw. I understand the point you're trying to make bro. It's just not compatible with mine.
I'd love Sony to make a service because Death Stranding 2 looks incredible.
but alas, I don't have a Piss5. And won't buy a Sony console because I'm poor as shit and games are expensive as fuck.

>>713741243
Kek absolutely. People forget the PS2 was the budget DVD player of its time. Half the install base wasn't there for Jak & Daxter, they were watching Shrek and The Matrix on that thing. But when Xbox does the same with Game Pass or a multimedia focus, suddenly it’s “not gaming enough”? Double standards out the ass.

>>713732985
Wait, microsoft owns the routine studio? Goddamn

>>713741243
It didn't, it was third worlders with the ease of piracy, the dvd player angle is revisionist history

>>713744302
I completely forgot about the DVD player thing kek. They double downed with Blu-ray on the PS3, my boomer uncle bought one specifically for that purpose too.

>>713734836
>>713741243
>>713744302
>>713745281
The true redpill is that both Microsoft and Sony are a cancer to the video game industry and things will get much better when they both go full publisher mode for Nintendo and Valve.