The real Persona 5 sequel
Stop shilling this chinkslop
>>713795028 (OP)>sequelIs it actually? I thought it was just a retelling of P5.
>>713796256Fuck off tendie jeet
What's your team?
>>713796305Its more like an AU
I got a little girl in a mechsuit and judge lady
How would you feel if you were designing a throwaway character that gets put into a gacha game only to be fill the trash pool that needs to be there so rare characters are rare? That design in OP screams just that.
>>713795028 (OP)>Only 100 rerolls allowed per device>2 Different shop currencies>Stingy on free currency given out>No promo codes> Clunky controlsYeah, I'll pass. Re-rolling isn't even worth it. Already uninstalled.
What's the meta for rolling?
Just ignore the gacha, clear the story and save up dailies for the swimsuit banner?
I don't know if I care to tryhard this game but I like the story, I'm assuming story content will always be trivial and the game will be fun if you just ignore events/raids/pvp.
Is it actually worth playing or is it more gachaslop?
>>713797918Pick up Ann/Morgana from the selectors
Pick up Makoto and Chord when they drop
Save for the hyper limiteds after that
>>713797967I played for 5 hours yesterday, it felt like I was playing 5 hours of a Persona game, but ever so slightly more streamlined. At least early on it feels like an expansion pack to 5 with a new cast, new scenario, but it's all very familiar.
But there's no scheduling, no calendar, no side jobs or school clubs, it's exclusively the main quest and I guess you'll get some side stories when it finishes and you're waiting for patches, at least that's what I'd assume from the gacha part of it being a live service.
I haven't gotten far enough into the game to give a shit about swiping, all the battles have been easy so far, which lines up with Persona anyway. It's got all the style and presentation you'd expect.
There's really no reason to avoid it because of gacha unless you're a retard who compulsively spends the instant he can and has no idea how to budget or control his own finances.
P5R is 20 bucks on the steam sale though so if you haven't played that I'd say pick that up instead, but if you have played it and want more Persona then just play this and throw zero to twenty dollars into it.
>>713798040>Pick up Makoto and Chord when they dropIs there a timeframe for it already?
I wasn't paying attention to this game at all until it came out, I didn't even realize it was already running in China.
Is global accelerating or same pace? How far behind are we?
>>713798618From what I understand, we're about a year behind.
>>713798618Global is about a year behind, but it looks like they are planning to accelerate global since the road map they put out recently says we're getting a 2.0 update at the end of August or so.
>>713795028 (OP)Puppet is so underrated
>>713798374>no side jobs or school clubsThere are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-gce1G5pIY
>>713799869Not in the same way as Persona 5 though, which weaves everything into the opening chapter. I guess maybe they appear later on and I haven't reached them but right now the game feels a lot more focused on getting the initial dungeon out of the way first.
>>713798618>Is there a timeframe for it already?Here's a guesstimate based on China's release dates but it's all up in the air:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo
Tranny shill thread, likely the exact same posters who force SMTV threads
Merope is such a top tier Velvet Attendant
>>713800102Fuck off Nintendo India
>>713799962People can cry all they like about gacha but at least it forces them to design appealing characters people would actually want to throw money at and not retarded abominations.
>>713800158I want her to throw me to the floor.
>>713800102im gay and my dad fucks me
you guys cant be serious with this
how on earth are you excited for another megaten gacha when smt dx2 went the way it did?
the only thing keeping that game afloat are nostalgic jap boomers, because the game itself is a testament to why gachas are fucking awful:
>horrendous power creep
>pvp and pve events are utterly untouchable unless you whale or meta/get lucky
>meandering story by virtue of being a constantly updating live service means good writing is thrown out the window in favor of constantly writing instances like "...but then the REAL villain (x20) appeared!"
>needlessly complex growth systems
>requires concentrated time investment so as to mitigate power creep and stay on top of FOMO content like guest characters, event stories, etc
why on earth would you be excited for more of this slop?
and in case anyone is wondering, yes, dx2 had a very positive reception at the beginning just like p5x. these games are well-produced and have slick presentations, good gameplay openings that bait people into long-term investment. then they pull the rug and reveal how fucked and whale-oriented the whole thing is.
>b-but you can clear stuff with non-whale characters!!
just wait. you'll experience the wall when you're weeks or months into playing, and by that point, the despair sets in because you realized you've dumped so much time into a product that actively has baited and hooked you.
>>713795028 (OP)>chink gacha>real sequelimagine being a retarded faggot like that lmao
>>713801172you can just play while you're having fun and leave when you stop having fun. it's not that complicated bro.
>>713801232Atlus have always had this retarded policy that everything is canon which is why shit like Q always ends with them losing their memory of it or the 3&5 Dancing games being dreams they don't remember. I bet the same goes for this too.
>>713801172I'm playing now and having fun.
If I hit a wall I'll stop playing.
It's not fucking rocket science.
>New characters get added to the standard pool
Does that mean I'm supposed to save gold tickets until they add a new character I want? Feels weird that you're incentivized to just hoard standard tickets
>>713801326>>713801414>im okay with playing an unfinished story-centric game with no meaningful resolutions because itโs fun ok?!?
>>713799962Future mother of 10
>>713802016Yes.
Persona's format is extremely well suited for episodic chapter based stories.
What stands out more in your memory? Kanji's arc and the gay bathtub stuff or fighting retarded Jesus because he was the mastermind behind the whole thing?
Persona 6 better have a romanceable cripple.
>>713795028 (OP)>notKamoshida is going around...shoving random people in subways>dramatic scene happens where he literally body-checks a bitch so hard she flies over a 4ft wall I like the game, but please tell me the stakes are raised at some point. This has been more comedy than serious.
>>713801172These shills haven't played the chink version so they don't know how bad the powercreep and content draught is yet. Give it a week or two and no one will be talking about it. Only gacha that get any meaningful threads here are Genshin and Wuwa because of their high quality.
>>713802925Believe it or not it's an actual problem happening in Japan now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwW6Rv0Ywlo
>>713803053>These shills haven't played the chink version Neither have you.
>>713802925People have stated that the writing quality goes up around the 3rd Palace. I guess the initial writer got the boot or some point and Atlus assigned one of their own writers to the project.
It's clear they wanted to have a Shiho moment but the build up and result just isn't the same.
>>713803129I did actually. However I dropped it in a week because I realized I don't care enough to sit through MTL for gacha kusoge.
>>713803083Thank God my country isn't as polite as Japan.
People don't get away with that here.
>>713803207So you dropped in a week
>they don't know how bad the powercreep and content draught is yetyou're still full of shit then because neither do you.
>>713795028 (OP)I got miyu but no ann should I reroll
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>>713803290>#1 spot on SteamIn which timeline?
>>713803552Probably in Japan's listing, their regional one is different.
>>713803053Literally kill yourself tendie tranny, genshin threads get deleted because they hurt your fee fees
>>713803053>WuwaShin pls only you talk about it kek
>>713803290it's number one on the google play store too
>>713804415Is he pettiest villain in Persona?
All fucking gachaniggers must fucking hang.
>>713803526Ann isn't a reroll target unless you're aiming to A6 her as f2p or trying to get A1 Ann+Morgana/Ryuji. The game gives you two early game selectors you can use on her and her A2 doesn't seem that good.
Also, if you have to ask that question, you're probably not prepared for the amount of potential time rerolling a 5* you want could take.
>>713801790some characters do other characters donโt. yui is limited and doesnโt get added to the standard pool while marian does
>>713804616Is A1 worth 15 buckeroos?
>>713801790On the flip side, the longer you wait to use standard the more bloated and padded the roster becomes.
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She might be top 1. Playable when?
>>713797496>> Clunky controlsNigga, what. It's the simplest touch-screen controls in the world. It's a fucking turn based JRPG.
can you use steam money from marketplace to buy stuff in the shop here?
>>713797967It's Persona: Gacha. Similar to Dx2 being SMT: Gacha.
It's alright, but if you can't stomach Gacha-isms, you probably won't enjoy it even though it's a pretty decent Persona 5-clone. They nail the art-style (not the entire rest of the style, but I blame that on China->Japan->English translation conversions) and gameplay systems (beyond the Gacha/grind for materials)
If Atlus makes them make it an offline Persona title when it EOS's, it'd be a worthwhile/decent play.
This persona has a yandere right?
>>713800003>Not in the same way as Persona 5 though, which weaves everything into the opening chapter. I guess maybe they appear later on and I haven't reached them but right now the game feels a lot more focused on getting the initial dungeon out of the way first.The tutorial, like Persona 5's, is overly long. I just got the Ann party-member (the baseball girl) and unlocked the extra ("Mementos" in P5 parlance) dungeon/material grind function which was locked for like 2-3 hours.
Side jobs are probably once you finish the first Palace.
>>713795028 (OP)So you only roll for humans? How do you get personas?
>>713802887Are they even working on Persona 6? Or are they just going to milk gacha subhumans for the next 10 years? I hope this flips hard, but it won't since the world is retarded.
>>713806020She'll be added next year
>>713806349Based now I will play your game.
>>713805572I like the amused look she gives to the dicks I draw in the signature box.
>>713806213>Is Atlus making a chinese game made by a chinese company instead of persona 6What do you think
>>713803290The game is a hit who would have guessed
I am completely Fatluspilled and even defend them doing full-priced re-releases of games, but even I won't stoop to play gachashit.
>>713806149Demons are low rarity spooks
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>>713806213They've already stated they're on work with Persona 6. It's just Atlus is slow when it comes to that. Persona 5 was announced in 2014-2015 and it took Atlus until 2017 to release the base PS3/PS4 versions.
You're going to be waiting a bit for Persona 6, especially as console graphic budgets for AA JRPG series that have blown up to AAA status bloat up.
>>713806213The game is not made by Atlus......
>>713806585I prefer gacha over those overpriced games. They are free and I'm poor.
>>713805040Depends on what $15 is to you, I guess. I don't know how good it even is in practice, 25% just sounds like a lot on paper and people say it's a big upgrade so I assume CN/KR have done the testing to know it's good.
>>713805864That's a requirement to launch on Steam, so yeah.
>>713806149Better question is how do you use the Wild card? I've gotten like 4-5 demons but can't swap between them from the Protagonists initial "Persona." Says that feature is locked, which is wild given they hype up his Wild Card status early in the game.
>>713805572Plapable when?
how much better is rerolling with the new 1500 jewels? have a profile but might delete it and try to get some good stuff
why do so many people feel the need to tell us they don't like gacha
These fucking chink devs really made Matador another casual fillter
>>713800158I like how she just pops up and goes "Velvet Room Time" and throws you in there
Ok I got a joker reroll what do I do, get 50 on noob banner than pick ann and hoard? I hate missing some of the 4*s but seems waste of currency
>>713804415>>713804459An I supposed to hate Kiuchi when he's more based than I could imagine?
>>713807442>Virgin AdachiVs
>The Subway Slamchad
>>713807442>losing to little girlGive up your man card, it is time castrate
>>713807312>muh gacha funYou are literally mentally disabled and so is the guy you replied to.
>Of course I'd love for you to have sex with me anon. I'm ovulating RIGHT NOW, if you came inside me we'd probably make twins.
>My vagina has been wet ever since I first laid eyes on you.
>But we can't. You haven't pledged your heart and soul to the CCP so...sorry~<3
>>713795028 (OP)Alright, now show us the gameplay
I mean, it can't be worse than Royal, right?
>>713807608>Can't work it out and fix his throw>Gets so depressed it makes him worseSkill issue. Next time work with the little girl until she can't hit it. Problem solved, Palace over.
>>713807608>losing to a little girlIf only we were all so lucky
Where the fuck is the ticket selection?
>>713807849I can speed up the animations so it's already better than Royal
>>713807849>Show up gameplay hehI dunno why you guys keep saying this every single thread when we've told you over and over again it's literally Persona 5
https://youtu.be/syGe4GVxmXI?t=9m17s
>>713806948Because they are western developers losing money while the chink waifu gets the money plus Nintendies agp mad their shitty coomer threads are losing to gacha
I'm new to this gacha stuff, is there a point where the game will be impossible or really painful to play without paying?
>>713808478No Gacha is impossible without paying
The problem is idiots spend all their stuff on every single banner and don't get anything so when the time comes when they need a new unit for help they get fucked cause they weren't smart with their in game currency
Just summon for who you need or your waifu and that's it.
>we're going to steal Ann's innocence within her womb!
Calm down Wonder
I opened it again on steam today and its making me redo the tutorial again... it didn't wipe all my progress right...?
>>713808478Do you have willpower to not coomsume? If you can then gacha game is not a problem for you because every single battle suppose to be f2p clearable or else there would be riot.
>>713808478>>713808613I haven't played this game yet and I don't know how the gacha will be, but usually you rarely need to pay to play the story, it should be piss easy.
You need to get better units for the side content or the PVP.
>>713795028 (OP)>sex girl is stuck in a gacha i hate this game so much for doing this to my dick
>>713808478According to the chinks and gooks, the story is clearable with just the free story characters the game gives you.
>>713809001>Babe! You're spilling your spaghetti! I got it!!!
>>713796346??? Fucking retard. I hope you kill yourself.
>>713801172Iโm having fun. I plan to stop playing when I stop having fun. Thatโs how video games work.
>>713809001What if Chie but not an awful person?
should i save pulls or try go for joker and rin?
>Grrr t-the story must be bad!
It's just Persona 5 AU with cute designs
>T-T-The gameplay is probably some mobile shit
It's P5 through and through
>You probably can't do social activities or date
Nope, it's all here. Even social links
>The graphics probably look like shit
Looks just as good, hell better than the OG P5 in some ways.
>THE GAME PROBABLY LIMITS YOU TO 3 BATTLES A DAY OR-
You can play as long as you like and explore Tokyo or the Metaverse as much as you like too
>The game probably paywalls you after the first few hours heh
Chinese players confirm that it does not and in fact you can beat the game with the free characters they give you so you don't have to spend a single cent
>FUCK, IT'S F2P I KNOW THERE'S A FUCKING CATCH SOMEWHERE YOU FUCKING GACHA LOVING GOOKS
Nope, it's Persona 5 but free and with summoning.
It's funny how Gacha haters are incapable of understanding that yes, Atlus and the Chinamen made a fun Gacha Persona game. You could continue to seethe or you could stop being a baby and download it and have fun like the rest of us.
>>713809314No you retard you need to commit to something and invest your entire life into it or not play it at all, once you start any gacha you need to play it until EoS and then kys whenever that happens because it's all fucking over at that point.
You can't just... casually enjoy the good parts and ignore your dailies, you need to treat this like it's a fucking JOB!
>>713809513I was actually kind surprised how well the gameplay just translates, pull for party members and they work like usual, protagonist still has Persona swap like usual.
>>713809314Based
Reposting the roadmap too. By the looks of it they want to catch up with the Chinese version so hopefully we're there by the end of the year
>>713809439I wouldn't waste all my pulls on Joker but that's just me. I heard he's a good unit to have for early game.
>>713809513>Looks just as good, hell better than the OG P5 in some ways.Dunno about that one, chief. Play it on Low (because your phone will melt otherwise on higher ones on a 2-3 year old phone) and see. It's tolerable, but not a looker.
(Oddly enough turning the graphics down shuts the textures down, which is weird as textures shouldn't tax a phone that hard)
So what do we think of our new protagonist? Upgrade? Downgrade? Cheap Joker copy?
>>713809720>Play it on lowFor what purpose
>>713809856Boring, probably the only design I'm not too fond of
>>713809513that's because atlus have become so greedy in the last decade, a lot of people do not trust them anymore
>Looks just as good, hell better than the OG P5 in some ways.I hope it's good since it's 70gb
>>713809912This is low? Looks pretty good to me
>>713810009Nah that's ultra
>>713809985It's not 70gb, it's 34gb. It deleted half of it after you install
Why, not clue.
>game lacks LGBTQIAP+ representation
>no BIPOCs or transwomen of color
Yeah, thatโs a hard pass from meโฆ.
>>713809912There's definitely some better lighting effects compared to royal. Which is expected since royal's engine was intended to run on 2006 hardware. I think texture quality could be a bit better though. On PC there's no need to be stingy with textures
>>713809985>I hope it's good since it's 70gbWhat the fuck. Phone game is 70gb? How people even have enough space for that?
>>713809856Pretty decent.
Looks like a Persona protagonist.
>>713810151On phone it's 17gb
On PC it downloads 70gb but then deleted half to be 34gb
When will they let us fuck the neighbor hag and convince her to get a divorce and move in with us?
>>713810124Sometimes I remember that Persona 5 is a legitimate PS3 game and I have a little chuckle.
Like that's actually what it was released on.
So was GTAV.
Any advice to get to level 30 without spending money? I'm being held hostage at level 24.
>>713810291Both, but if your phone is pre 2023 it probably won't handle it without overheating
>>713810208It doesn't download 70GB, it says you need 70GB.
It downloads 34, doubles it during extraction and then deletes the compressed files.
>>713809856He's not Yu Ziodynecock so he's not as good as he could be
when do i get to the dailies part
>>713810308>Any advice to get to level 30 without spending money? I'm being held hostage at level 24.Start by taking a shower.
>>713810387Oh my mistake I didn't download the steam version yet
>>713809856its ok. I like that he focuses more on the red aesthetic
>>713808780You did bind your account right...
>>713810452I'm sorry I asked a question about a game in a thread about said game, anon. I didn't know you were so sensitive, I'll try to be more careful next time.
>>713809985I trust them fine, I'm just not playing a gacha. If it were Persona 5 Arena or some spinoff in a non-shit genre I'd be happy to play it.
>>713809856I like how heโs already been living in Tokyo for a while and has some friends. Everyone was such an asshole to Joker, it made me miss the comfy feeling of P4.
>gacha
sorry.. i just.. its just that.. im not gonna play it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>713798374>There's really no reason to avoid it because of gacha unless you're a retard who compulsively spends the instant he can and has no idea how to budget or control his own finances.thats not the reason why people hate gachas, its because sooner or later they just become chore simulator with the whole dailies bullshit and at that point why not just play something else unless youre a thirdie
>>713809513There's no energy/stamina system?
>>713811062Yeah... why not play something else?
You don't have to dedicate your life to one game.
When you don't want to play it, don't. Come back when you do.
You don't need to autistically minmax and poopsock every single gacha, you can clear the story (the fun part) with a bricked account.
I have no idea where this obsession with a perfect account you'll never have comes from.
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any lolis? zzz promised some sexo lolis but afaik they never came out.
>>713811396>JUST DONT CAREno, if im playing something then i will try my best to take advantage of everything thats available to me.
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>>713811013>sorry.. i just.. its just that.. im not gonna play it
>>713811531is she out now? im not too hot on a p5 gacha but i will play for her
>>713811638Yup, I got her in my first summon and she's been in my party ever since
>meet the hag
>she immediately brings up her husband which means no romance
fucking DROPPED
>>713809421what if chie but this time shes sexo
gross flanderization of P5, how do gachaniggers live with themselves?
.....I'm enjoying this more than Base P5
>>713812854we all know jeety
>>713803083That is the most cancerous comment section i have seen in a while
>>713806349We should be getting a look at her Phantom Thief look in two days
>>713795028 (OP)>persona is now gacha>threads will soon devolve into erp
>>713809912>PCAgain: Low, mobile. Go.
>>713808036Outside of the AWFUL UI it works fine. The UI is clearly made for M&KB though
>>713813676>Low on mobileNah I'm good
>>713803552didnt this flop hard in China? why is it so popular on global?
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>>713811389>There's no energy/stamina system?there is, its just you cant progress without stamina
why did i guide i read say not to level up leo skil 2 or somethign?
>>713814424My guess is because Japan and the rest of the world care more about Persona than China.
I'd play this but I never play gacha games with weapon gacha out of priniciple because I have no self control
Why the fuck did they release in China first despite China never having played Persona or even SMT?
>>713814683It's weird cause I'm not even sure that's true. I remember reading some interview from the HSR dev and all he does is wank off how foundationally important Persona 5 is to China, I don't know if they appreciated why that's funny.
>>713815308Wasn't it developed in China?
is it just me or does the combat feel super stiff and sluggish while normal P5 feels super smooth? how do you even fuck this up?
>>713815308chinese developer
>>713816327developed in China they should've just gave them the Atlus animations though
>>713816327What the fuck are you even saying?
>>713815308They essentially beta tested it in china
>>713814375they didn't even try to make the game fit widescreen displays
My only complaint about the game is that they feel the need to put literally everything imaginable on the UI permanently, let me disable that shit, I don't need the controls all over the screen constantly.
What time is the daily reset?
>>713798040So is it better to get Ann and Morgana rather than doubling up on Ann from the selectors? Yesterday and Anon was arguing it's better to boost Ann as much as possible but I don't know.
>>713800158>>713807254>Oh you're busy? I don't care get your ass to the Velvet Room.
>>713817994>ann threesome or annoying fucking catanswer is clear
what is this third part component needed?
chinese spyware?
What the hell is this dojin bait?
>>713795028 (OP)Is there romance in this game
>>713818205It can't be anything too obtrusive because it runs fine on a Deck out of the box.
>>713818217>not wanting doujin abit
>>713800102force? it was one of the most popular jrpgs ever released
>>713818217The same thing Ann went through in P5, but they're throwing baseballs at her. The doujin bait is the shadow with the huge titties and ass, not that
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>>713818480Kek yeah she's smokin
>>713801172I CAN QUIT ANYTIME I WANT
>>713801172stop acting like my time is important
spoonfeed me what the best banner shit to get starting out please
>>713818328Need more Merope porn
>>713818868why does a chinese version of persona 5 have better girls?
>>713818567I want to fuck that Shadow
>>713819000It's F2P so it has to sell itself harder.
im rerolling. aiming for joker + early ann, from my understanding joker + chink girl is redundant right? like same attribute or whatever
>>713819185There's a damage bonus if you have characters with the same element in your active party so you want both if you want to focus on them. There's a smaller one for everyone having different elements but that does mean you can hit more weaknesses
>>713818864Do the 50 novice pulls.
Save for Makoto.
>>713818205VCredist, it installs in the launcher instead of through Steam like most games. Don't ask me why they have such a weirdly crytptic and paranoia-inducing message about it.
>>713818868So can you romance all the girls unique to the gacha but not collab chars or girls from other persona games?
Mont feels way too strong for a tutorial draw. She shits out big dick damage on anything that doesn't resist Ice.
>>713819000Gacha model inherently promotes exquisite character design.
>>713819000thats just Ana with black hair
>>713800209>>713801137>>713818462and there are the shill troons in question, thread is likely 80% samefag
>>713819750You're autistic
>>713819628Not all girls unique to the game. The married woman and the literal old woman are obviously not options. Pretty much if they are in Wonder's age range to 20s then they are an option.
>>713819857Dude you tendie trannies are literally calling shills to non gacha games too, what the fuck do you want anymore?
>>713807137It's obvious you tendie jeets are the marketers fighting to get more space here lmao
Why would they make a gyaru hag then make her married so you can't romance her? Literally what's the point of her inclusion then
>>713820237Is this your typical fanservice gacha where you can romance every girl or do they get mad like in persona if you go for harem
>>713795028 (OP)DAMN NIGGA! why is this shit 70 gigabytes
>>713820317>Everything is shillsThe absolute state of nintendies
>>713820358NTR doujins bait
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>>713820358We'll probably get a Gyaru we can romance later
>>713820660I have no idea man it's been out for one day but if the quality remains this high then yes it's one of the best on the market.
>>713820570>>713820697generally if you're installing things you need twice the space available
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Woah, you can't say that
>>713820725How long it's been on chink market? Is global going to catch up to chink?
>>7138208951 Year, we don't know
>>713820660So far yes
>t.been playing for 6 hours
Is this more fun than Uma?
>>713821521They are two different genres, one is a jrpg the other is a game where you train horse girls
>>713806349Fucking Bastards got me, I really like this design
>>713821521Anything is more fun than excel simulator
Any other waitchad waiting for persona 1 and 2 characters?
>>713806349Is she really a yandere though?
>>713821521I've been enjoying both, Uma has 5 hours downtime between runs so plenty of time for Persona.
>>713822136I'm gonna roll for Door and the cripple, but other than that, I'm saving for Elly, Nanjo, and Labrys. Might roll if Mont gets an alternate, but otherwise my gems are all going into savings.
>>713806585Your loss friendo. It's literally an AU Persona 5 and it's kino.
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Which version will we get though?
>>713808478Nope, it's easy to experience all the story stuff and events as pure F2P. It's even somewhat easy to get characters you want.
Most gacha people talk about them from the perspective of autistic min/maxers who need every character fully maxed out with every weapon fully maxed out.
>>713822425Who is the cripple? Hoking guy?
>>713812489She is quite based I like her so far.
>>713822136>>713822425They said they would do it if they got their remake models but they are willing to do them themselves
>>713822759Plus this game has a decent amount of male characters which means you have plenty of downtime opportunities to save pulls.
After playing for about seven hours I think the game's okay but I just can't bring myself to engage with a mihoyo template live service with dailies anymore, it's really almost out of principle really. I'm just gonna play P3R instead.
>>713822136I'm a Fuukascholar and they're not going to add her so I'm not sure who I'm waiting for.
You know, since the whole summon system is mostly about cognitive alternate versions of people, they could do persona user versions of old social links. Like imagine you have Tanaka on your team. The focus is going to be on OC stuff of course rather than only milking established characters but I think it could be worth exploring
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>>713822671It's a chinese game
>>713809856Hated him at first but he grew on me. I also like his trollish sarcastic dialogue options.
>>713810273>This is her Persona formWhy do they do this to us?
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>>713823194It is a mystery.
>>713804415>chinks had the game for more than a year>still no pics of him slamming herShameful display.
>>713823085what did they do for black panther?
>Motoha starts calling me by first name without asking the moment she gets my phone number
Damn, she's thirsty.
>>713823370>SkullBased
BASED
>>713796256tendo pajeet calm down
>>713823462Surely you could have guessed? The Chinese movie poster was just Black Panther with his mask on instead of with his face showing.
>>713823779>implying jeets can afford tendie gamesThey are far more likely to shill for something like this Chang.
Is there any kind of multiplayer in this?
I'm looking for a reason to care to spend time on this at all. The story feels like P5 fanfiction and the gameplay feels like easy mode P5.
>>713823269I legit don't know why she isn't romanceable, makes no sense especially after p5
>>713823923Sir please talk about pokemon sex sir
Is Merope the best Velvet Room attendent? She's pure sexo.
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>Unlock friends
>Sudden deluge of random Spanish in the corner of my screen
What the fuck is this?
>>713823968>The story feels like P5 and the gameplay is easySo... it's just like Persona 5?
Why don't you like it?
>>713795028 (OP)I hate how it's taking so long to get to basic shit like equipping a weapon
>>713824351Persona and extremely drawn out tutorials, name a better duo kek
>>713823046They might add Fuuka but she'll be a navigator
>>713824351its somehow even slower than persona 5 which is honestly impressive
still getting tutorials for basic shit 6 hours in
>>713795028 (OP)should I use my meta gems to get more summoning tickets?
>>713823085>Removed Chewbacca tooKek
I like how the first order is a lot more imposing in the Chinese one too
Sorry I dropped persona after the remakes, my heart belongs to ZZZ now
It's over atlus!
why isnt circle working for going back on controller
>>713824036>After P5P5 didn't have hags romanceable
>BUTTakemi and Kawakami are in their mid 20s
>>713824439>still getting tutorials for basic shit 6 hours inthis is just your average jrpg shit
Alright, Minami is super cute, but I like the musclehead Anderson's social link way more. The guy's just way too earnest.
>>713824439Bro I refuse to believe you've played a Persona game before in your life.
Persona usually has a good 14 hours before anything starts.
>>713823443I will protect her no matter what
>>713824319P5 is hard on higher difficulties and the story is original.
I can't find any motivation to play "we have P5 at home" when replaying P5 would probably be more fulfilling. Though I don't really care to replay that any time soon either.
>>713824627Sad he's just a sidequest and not an SL, you really gotta respect the guy.
>>713824687>I can't find any motivation to play Oh nonono bros they stole his desires he's apathetic and doesn't care about anything!
Phonebros, anybody else's game stuttering from time to time? If so did you fix it?
>>713824560Opposite for me dropping ZZZ for this game
>>713824687>And the story is originalAh yes the original "group of teens must band together and stop [INSERT EVIL ADULT] while understanding the bonds of friendship and in the end it turns out [INSERT EVIL GOD WHO WANTS HUMANITY TO BECOME COMPLACENT] was pulling the strings the entire time! The MC gets a power up at the end of defeats him" storyline
Can't forget the "person you thought was trustworthy ends up betraying someone" side plot either
Very original, they've NEVER done that in a Persona game before....
>>713824806I've only tried playing on Deck and PC and it's been buttery smooth.
Maybe an overheating issue? Depends on your phone I guess.
>>713825074Damn, it sucks cause I don't want to play onow graphics, my Phone is pretty new it should be able to handle 60fps on high settings at least. I'll search around and see if someone found some good settings
>>713825057>group of teens must band together and stop [INSERT EVIL ADULT] while understanding the bonds of friendship and in the end it turns out [INSERT EVIL GOD WHO WANTS HUMANITY TO BECOME COMPLACENT] was pulling the strings the entire time!this doesn't happen in p3
>>713824949The only reason I'm hanging on to Triple Zed is waiting for those waterkuma robo lolis we were promised.
First arc was fun but the China tangent is off to a boring ass start.
>>713825230>SEES must band together and stop Strega while understanding the bonds of friendship and in the end it turns out Nyx was pulling the strings the entire timeNice try
After 20 rerolls this is no joke the best Ive gotten. 4 of the reroll attempts gave me the fucking owl 5-7 times in each of them. And I only got a not guaranteed 5 star like once beside this attempt which was Morgana. Do I just stop with this? Is it good enough?
>>713825057Stealing hearts and making people confess their crimes is original.
P5 with P3's apathy syndrome is not.
Why are gachaniggers so retarded? I ask for one redeeming quality and all I get is retards claiming its the same exact game as P5.
I hope in Persona 6 they finally do that world trip stuff they were always talking about doing
I want a big adventure for the next game, breakaway from the P3-5 formula
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>Join chatroom 69
>It's what one would expect
>>713825405>Stealing hearts and making people confess their crimes is original.Persona 4 would like to speak to you
Cmon now I like P5 as much as the next guy but claiming it's original is pretty funny
So how far in do you unlock the gacha
>>713825416>The Persona team need to travel from Japan to Egypt via the sea passing by many South East Asia stopping points>Harassed by enemy Persona users along the waySounds good lets do it.
>>713825374I feel like rerolling is only really necessary if you're fishing for the loli or the chink. There's 2 very achievable free picks of Ann/Morgana/Ryuji and you're going to end up with free 4*s from the story and the rest as likely future spooks.
>>713825487That doesn't happen in P4. In P4 the focus is trying to find one guy throwing people into TVs.
>>713806349Is she a yandere for the player?
>>713825610You unlock the Gacha as soon as you enter your bedroom
Happens after the first boss, takes 30-40 minutes on your first playthrough but for re-rolls you can skip althe cutscenes and it takes 5 minutes
>>713825416Recruiting african companion so he blacks your female romance
>>713825284Is there a quest line with her?
>>713795028 (OP)>look up characters>no cool old guys like iwai
>>713825618>7th Persona Wielder
>>713813215>threads will soon devolve into erp>soon
>>713825456Agreed. Too bad she can't be romanced.
>>713825632>loli or the chinkPretty much why I rerolled, wanted both but after only getting 2 5 stars in 20 attempts I'm kinda bored of rerolling and was thinking maybe I should quit while I was ahead with at least one of the two. Joker wouldve been nice too but meh.
>>713814424It didn't flop but it wasn't a huge widespread success over there.
>>713825354Strega isn't an evil adult though, and it's not the main driving force of the game. You could've told me Ikutsuki as a counterpoint, but you're allied with him until the tweest
How long are the palaces? I only had a couple of hours to play yesterday
>>713824601yeah but you'd want that stuff to happen faster in this game otherwise you're not going fast enough and might lose out on time sensitive stuff like stamina spending if you didn't play for 10 hours or skip everything
>>713795028 (OP)can someone explain does atlus gets any money from this or the most of it goes to china?
>>713825456I use her as support or whatever it's called. Her party buffs are nice and she doesn't take a combat slot.
Can you even use her as a normal unit if you wanted? I'm not clear on how that works fully.
Having played a bit under an hour where I guess the story is going is that the protagonist is a literal NPC that got main character status through a glitch in the universe
and that's also why their outfit is so basic beyond the meta reasoning of they probably are not allowed to have his design look better than Joker
>>713826230pretty damn long if you're collecting everything, plenty of gacha tickets
>>713826230I'm doing the first palace and it feels huge. It also feels like you're not meant to clear them on the first run, a lot shit requires you to come back later if you want to 100%.
>>713826062Yeah the rates are pretty rough, I settled for my top pick and got to playing.
>>713826230The first palace feels really long but it's not actually. The rooms are big and you get interrupted a lot with small dialogues and a few cutscenes. There's some optional backtracking when you get keycards and you have to craft a bunch of lockpicks if you want to get all of the treasure chests, but you can't actually fight the boss until Wonder's level is 30.
>>713795028 (OP)nobody who is allowed to post here can date her.
>>713826760Says who?
>Age of con-Is what I make it out to be lil bitch
>searching for companios is case sensitive, and only shows results that exactly match what you typed
Who the fuck designed this.
Does the faggot ass owl show up too much in the story?
>>713827318they are teddie/morgana
so yes
>>713827436Thank you, dropped
>>713827318that fucking bird that I hate
>>713827318Least annoying mascot
>Dropped Persona because of the mascot
Why does it seem like half this thread has never touched this series before today and only tried it the new gacha in order to hate it?
>>713827745What's Persona 3
>>713827318Yes but he's actually based.
>>713805979So it's garbage.
>>713826642How to speed up the levelling up process? I'm just waiting until Daily Reset and am gonna take it from there.
>>713827745I wanted to like the gacha, but it just feels off and since it evidently doesn't have any sort of multiplayer I guess I'll just delete it and go back to investing most of my free time into Dragon Quest X.
I never heard of there being a singleplayer gacha, I thought the social aspect was supposed to be part of it, but I guess Dragon Quest of the Stars and Puzzle & Dragons are outliers.
>>713827861A thirty year old relic?
The rates for 5* feel like absolute shit
>>713828340Conversely I avoid gachas that focus on a multiplayer element, so this seemed like a good one, I just want to collect characters and follow an okay story. Persona 4 onwards had a very annoying talking animal, I was hoping this one would at least tone down its involvement but that doesn't seem to be the case.
>>713828481Don't spend anything on a banner unless you can force the result through pity. This is pretty normal for any gacha released in the past 10 years.
And no, you are not entitled to every character the game releases free of charge, you may get lucky, but don't count on it.
>tfw not playing either of these
how do people play so many gacha games?
>>713828303I wouldn't know, it doesn't seem like there's many options. I'm just going to clear out my sidequests, do the Mementos grinding dungeons to level up skills and increase level caps for my party, and spend activity points on increasing social stats / getting money to craft stuff to do that. I guess I could explore more in Mementos too but I don't think I can unlock that other Fog Wall.
>>713828774I play eight, it's ideal. It's impossible to stress over minmaxing them, you just log in when each one has new content or when you care about them and play and have fun.
Umamusume has a 5 hour cooldown on runs so that's plenty of time to play Persona.
with realm of repression what are the best mats to go get?
>>713828774How good is yuri content in heaven burns red
>>713828690Also don't let the FOMO take over your mind. More often than not these characters WILL come back.
>>713829042Protagonist is horny as hell and hits on everyone, has few OTPs
>>713826048is that a challenge? :3
>>713829076Also, don't listen to metafags, they will tell you every new unit is a MUST HAVE.
Roll when your penis tells you it's time, it's never wrong.
I should go with the phantom thief banner right?
>>713829042everyone is openly gay and has ships although they'll never kiss but they'll grope eachother and one girl even got fingered
>>713829198This is the most important. Metafags have basically ruined any normal discussion about gacha games with their autism. They cause so much confusion with curious people it's annoying.
>>713829171>Protagonist is horny as hell and hits on everyone
>>713829198>Roll when your penis tells you it's time, it's never wrong.This one. I'm not using my gems on the Joker banner because he isn't a cute girl. It really is that simple.
I've seen about 3 threads like this
and so far, not a single one has combat footage. As is typical of Gachas I suppose, no one wants to admit their "game" is just a visual novel with buton mashing
>>713827318the owl is honestly the best "mascot character" any persona game has ever had, he looks a bit stupid but he's mostly just a patronizing little bastard. oddly charismatic, like he's tard wrangling wonder vs morgana who just felt like he was working a full time job tutorializing everything for you in the driest way possible
>>713829430it's literally P5, just check youtube if you have never played it
>>713829430>no one wants to admit their "game" is just a visual novel with buton mashingI cannot believe this new Persona game is like a visual novel...
>>713823443This bitch right here is why I'm ignoring the Joker banner. I WILL pull her.
>>713829430its literally Persona 5
>>713829460Owl being a tard wrangler kind of makes sense when you consider that Wonder was pretty much an NPC until he decided to take back his own desire.
The new attendant is dogshit, give me my wife back.
>>713829430>no one wants to admit their "game" is just a visual novel with buton mashingyou just described Persona as a whole
>>713809856Deliberately designed to stand out less than other protagonists/10.
Reminds me of P3P's FeMC in that sense. You can really tell that Soejima didn't want her to look as "special" as the male protagonist.
>>713829787yeah the theme of this game seems odd. the main characters' unique power is just that they have the slightest inclination towards giving a shit about anything ever, is this a chink thing?
>>713829813Each guest gets their own attendant. Lavenza is Joker's, she won't attend to Wonder.
>>713829853FeMC is absolutely a standout what are you talking about?
She's hecking cute.
>>713829960Yeah but in other spinoffs like PQ all of the attendants were there for their MCs, Lavenza should be around since Joker is.
is the starter pack worth it bros
>rolled an account with rin
>rolled a second with ann
>still rerolling because i want joker
>even if i get joker i'll probably reroll for joker + rin on one account since they have synergy
I'm too autistic to play these dumbass games. I hope I hit the 100 limit soon so the devs can just force me to stop.
>>713830115Probably not but it's five bucks, it might as well be free.
>>7138301155 tix is nice but gyaru hag is free and hotter navigator
>>713830021Male protagonist has blue hair and silver eyes. He was very clearly designed to have a "mysterious" vibe to him. In contrast, FeMC looks like a normal girl. She doesn't even stand out compared to the other girls like Yukari or Mitsuru.
>>713830115miyu is strong but 4 star, you're basically guaranteed to pull her eventually. if you have the money to piss away then go for it but the value is meh
>>713830269Male protag looks like a typical emo fuccboy.
FeMC looks and has a unique personality out of all Persona heroes.
>>713830406She's an 8 in a game full of 10/10s.
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>>713830318And what is the value of the jimmy jams?
Check the Chinese/Global version before bothering to spend on the English one, none of the 1.0 characters are relevant anymore except maybe Ann. The game is powercreep hell.
>>713830754Yeah but what the fuck's the point of playing a P5 mobile game if you're not gonna roll for Joker?
>>713830754Most reports are that pretty much aside from 1 end game mode that everything else can be cleared with F2P parties. Just roll for your waifu/characters you like.
>>713830754Nobody gives a fuck about meta shit.
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>>713830754Oh no I rolled for Joker and he's only "Strong and Reliable" after a year!
Fucking metafags.
Roll for who you like.
>>713830754Rin is still good on CN no? I know Joker dropped like a rock so rip to the people spending hours rerolling for that jobber.
>>713830754Don't care, Kotone ain't leaving my party
Reminder that Wonder is actually Joker's opposite in nearly every way.
>Joker has a criminal record and has to live in a dingy attic, while Wonder lives a cushy life with clearly rich parents.
>Joker had a poor reputation and people tended to avoid him. He was an outcast who could only get along with other outcasts. Wonder seems to be generally well-liked by his peers.
>Joker's Velvet Room was a jail and his attendant(s) verbally abused him constantly. His Igor was a fake who was manipulating him the whole time. Wonder's attendant can create combatants out of nothing, dramatically bolstering the team's strength.
>Joker and Ryuji actually tried to take down Kamoshida with less extreme measures, only to find that they were completely powerless to achieve anything. It was only after someone tried to commit suicide and they were backed into a corner that they resorted to stealing his heart. Wonder could resolve this entire issue just by taking out his phone and obtaining video evidence of Kiuchi's actions. He's actually seen Kiuchi in actions multiple times, easily enough times to have all the evidence he needs. There was no need to endanger himself by infiltrating Kiuchi's Palace.
>>713830973It won't stay that way, every gacha has difficulty creep to go along with it's power creep. There will be new content that's harder to "persuade" you to swipe. I've seen this shit before a dozen times.
>>713831172And usually that's covered by free handouts, anniversary rewards, new gearsets or buffs to old characters.
Only a fucking retarded developer makes a game hard for the sake of pissing players off, I don't know any big gacha that does that.
>>713831361Also Guest characters. Noticing that in a lot of gacha now with combat events that need built up characters they tend to offer guests designed around whatever battle it is.
>>713831142He has the nicest house out of any persona protag.
>>713831142>Wonder could just use a cameraOkay, so he recorded the subway slammer. Then the slammer says that it wasnt on purpose and its just an accident.
Too bad.
>>713831361Yeah. I don't think there is a single gacha that makes their main story or events hard to get through. The hard stuff is always stuff like spiral abyss and it's really only the final stage where things can require meta chasing and that is only like 60 gems.
>>713831494That's why you get multiple videos. He's not exactly being subtle.
>>713831424And I appreciate it both ways, kinda nice how the story of Zenless just gives you fixed teams so it can actually have a baseline level of challenge instead of me using my own teams and deleting every wave with Miyabi and calling it a day.
Gacha by design is tough to balance so I like the move towards fixed teams for story mode.
>>713831504Needs more health and less hood tail
>>713831504>It's cool!!fucking kek what is that AOA message
>>713831504"Cool" is not the word I would use
>>713827318Best Mascot in the series honestly
Is there a cope 4* weapon for joker somewhere? Don't wanna roll the weapon banner.
>>713831504First time I saw this I legitimately thought it said
"It's coom"
>>713831598Anon, people like this guy exist IRL and they use the same excuse of "it was an accident" and get away all the time. You have to have proof of him breaking some other crime in the process to nail him.
>>713831695As long as he doesn't have an annoying self-pity arc that bogs the story down later, I'll agree.
>>713832057I think sprinting at a girl in a crowd and shoulder-tackling her over a 5 foot barrier goes beyond what people get away with IRL.
Motoha I like you and all but please hurry up and leave so I can meet my real wife, Yaoling
>Be American
>In a bad mood
>Decide to shove some people in public transit
>Get shot
>No healthcare
>Die
>>713795028 (OP)Is Berzoner Strikers any good?
>>713831504>Hi I'm Chie if I wasn't an insufferable cuntLove her.
>everyone's fawning over Motoha
Chie sisters...have we....really been replaced? Just like that?
>>713828960Same
I appreciate those with permanent event
>>713832369Depends if you like the p5 gang, really. It's just P5 japan road trip vs evil tech bro.
>>713832438>BTFOS a professional pitcher so hard his entire life falls apart and he becomes a seething incel wagieIs this the power of lolis?
>>713832538Chie is the best designed character Soejima ever made but she is a bit dry. She unironically gets personalitymogged by a character in a chinese gacha game.
what do you get for rolling dupe chars in this game?
>>713832729Chie with Motoha's personality would be a peak character.
>>713832810My dick can only get so erect, and my heart can only grow so large.
How do I get the hime cut girl?
>>713832805They get powered up and learn new passives. Some are whatever, some are good, and some are basically necessary for the character to even function (this is thankfully mostly only the case for 4* which you can get dupes of easily)
This game honestly has some of my favorite designs in the whole series
>>713832729she's a victim of being an early character and how p4's story is written
>>713832905You get her for free in the tutorial roll, you literally can't not have her.
>>713795028 (OP)>owl uses tonfaLiterally already better than Morgana
>>713831142>Wonder could resolve this entire issue just by taking out his phone and obtaining video evidence of Kiuchi's actionsThe point of it being so cartoony and over the top, to the point of him tackling a girl 4 feet into the air, is to hammer in that they're in a fucked up world. They even have a scene of Arai talking to a cop who just doesn't give a shit even though the subway cameras have footage of this guy clearly doing it with intent.
>>713833793he's just better than morgana in general
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>>713832290It was just an accident bro, she shouldnt have gotten in his way when he was rushing onto the train.
>>713834568He's cuter too.
How do you get gecko coins?
>named the same as a shitty crypto coin so you can't search for it.
>>713830829Jokah's boring.
Wow, poor old woman got mogged hard by the younger navigator.
>better skills
>better "assets"
>calls you onii-sama
Sorry gyaru, not this time
>>713836610Weak, low test post.
Why does persona always make their MC so gay looking
>>713831504I want to fuck her
I was knocked out of it when the classic casino opening turned into an anime battle between Joker and the Donutsteel OC
might play for a story and then never again
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>>713836831Wonder's just a twink like the past three Persona boys
>>713836962I entered 33 on this and the game still deemed me a minor and forbid me from chat. Weird.
>>713836910That was kino though
>>713837005>threeexcuse you
I'm kinda tempted but damn I don't have the time for another BIG game. Is it playable in short chunks like most gachas?
>>713836610>using the shield support over the damage boost supportnot in gacha games lmao
>>713837070It's bugged. Some people said they had to close the game and reload it for it to work.
>>713837176Fair point. It's still early and I haven't lacked for damage yet. Thankfully I have both options.
>>713837005God I can't wait for this event
>>713837005Yeah but Wonder looks more like a girl than the others.
>>713837168I've been playing in decent chunks of the game (at 6 hours now) and it's been great honestly
>>713837168People are already hitting a soft level cap after only a couple days, it's probably fine in short bursts yeah. Takes a few hours to get to the part where you can start doing dailies/using up timegated resources like stamina though
>>713837440.........And that's a good thing
>dem calcium canons on the homeroom teacher
Based horny chinks
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Sounds like a girls name
I actually haven't played 5/5 royal yet, is it good
>>713837778It's great. It's certainly worth your time far more than this schlocky gacha.
I hope this game is just successful enough to continue development but I don't want it to become huge. The absolute best zone for gacha games are in that middle ground because once they blow up they get really greedy.
>>713837695Glad I'm not the only one, she's busty as fuck kek
>>713830115No, they're always there to let your guard down and open you up to the idea of spending more money on gacha.
Always ignore these they're traps.
>>713831361Limbus has hardwalls like Spicebush for no reason other than go fuck yourself
>>713838293Only crazy retards play Limbus though.
>>713837778>YetIt's been out for 8 years you were never going to play it
>>713837902It is being made by a Chinese company but Atlus very clearly still is involved. Dx2 has been around for 7 years at this point, despite nobody ever talking about it, so I don't think this game is going anywhere unless perfect world tells Atlus they don't want Black Wing Studios on it anymore.
Please I'm begging you just put Atlus and P Studio on the same part of the splash screen, something to trim the amount of them down
is there a button to hold so I can unload the gun or do I have to mash space bar every time
>>713827318I hate him a little less than Morgana.
>>713838747>not just autobattling
>>713828774I thought I was done with gacha completely after finally dropping HSR a year ago but I decided to give this one a shot a like it. As long as it doesn't demand a bunch of time, i'll probably keep playing.
Who are the good 4*s? Fuck trying to get any 5*
>>713831079>Door-kun is top tierOk cool, I won't drop this
>>713839571Kotone the ice skater is pretty damn good as well as Puppet
>>713839852best attendant by far
>>713839852NOOO I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK TO THE VELVET ROOM
Here's another thread ya dumb dumbs
>>713840509
>>713839016>turn on auto battle>ann just uses fire on enemies resistant to it
>>713840093Lavenza mogs the fuck out of her.
>>713840093naw she's bargain bin margaret