Thread 713829337

>halfway through the game
>still hasn't shown up or played any significant role in the story
Gaster brod how are we coping?

Chapter 3 eggman namedrops Deltarune and says it might take 11 years
Chapter 4 ending man namedrops Deltarune and says Deltarune is halfway done

These are obviously the same person

>>713829717
Eggman doesn't talk like gaster and doesn't have the levels of power that gaster has.

Most of the "le epic deep lore" stuff in Undertale didn't show up until the latter half / end of the game, either.

>>713830132
Holy headcanon Batman

>>713829717
so chapter 7 in 2029?

Take the Friendpill. He's our real main villain.

>>713829337 (OP)
He's the Antichrist

>>713830320
>he thinks the game will be finished before 2040

>>713830446
FRIEND is Gaster

>>713830446
who is friend and why is he inside me?

QRD on this uboa reference? I've never played these games before

>>713830228
Egg man is stuck in mancountry, a place that is unstable and disappearing. He talks in rambling riddles and roundabout ways.

Ghaster, while only interacting in the gonner maker, title screen, endings, ect, has no hints suggesting that he is trapped there. He also is responsible for our ability to save and load.

>>713829337 (OP)
So did Gaster created the vessel for the SOUL and someone else forced it into Kris or did Gaster just changed his mind and forced us into Kris himself???

>>713830627
When Toby was a teenager he made an Earthbound rom hack where the final boss briefly takes the form of an edited Uboa sprite
Then Toby made Undertale and included a 1/1000 chance to encounter the OP's pic. He doesn't do anything but disappear, but people think he's the missing character WD Gaster.
Then Deltarune goes on to have a bunch of references to Gaster, so schizos are convinced this Uboa lookalike is going to appear

Gaster is made up by the fanbase, they have nothing to do with Undertale/Deltarune

>>713830635
I have no idea who the fuck is eggman in Deltarune but base on this, its probably canon

>>713830839
Thanks for the quick explanation anon.

>hasn't played any significant role in the story
Hes driving people to have schizo breakdowns.
Its gonna be great when he eventually does it to (you) and we have to fight Kris directly.

>>713830627
Ghaster in undertale is a scientist who met a terrible fate after a fateful experiment. There's basically no details about him in that game, and what little you can find is well hidden.

Ghaster in Deltarune is identifiable by his peculiar way of speaking and welcomes you when you boot up the game by guiding you through making a "vessel". Though the vessel is discarded by an unknown character, Ghaster still shows up on title screens, game over screens, ect, and generally seems to be encouraging of what we're doing in the game.

>>713830839
>He doesn't do anything but disappear
And plays a sped up version of Gaster's Theme.

>>713830936
Eggman is the man behind the tree that gives you eggs.

Gaster just flew over my house

>>713831153
>Ghaster in Deltarune is identifiable by his peculiar way of speaking and welcomes you when you boot up the game by guiding you through making a "vessel"
Do we actually know if that was actually Gaster?

>>713831247
How can afford to do that in this economy?

>>713830778
The voice who discarded our vessel speaks exactly like Chara/FRIEND.
The Player is Angel/God and Gaster is associated with the devil. Goners are Gaster's followers, the devil's followers. The vessel is a goner. I would assume the "cage with humans part" is not Kris, but Vessel. The vessel was an attempt to trap us, which is why Chara/FRIEND saved us.

>>713831395
the song that plays during the gonermaker sequence is called "another_him"
for reference, "him" is the filename of gaster's theme in the undertale sound test room

>>713830936
the eggman is a reference to the forgotten man in mother 1

>>713831395
Yeah. Nobody else talks like that, the typer value in the game's code is 66, and it's even more obvious in japanese since his grammar is even more distinct in their localization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKPPiIH1Rhg
Cool flipnote thing a nip made

>>713831395
>Do we actually know if that was actually Gaster?
In an actual sense we can't concretely discern that.
But you'd be out of your mind if Toby as the writer would intentionally cram at least 5 different "This is definitely Gaster" associations (ranging from the song's name, manner of speech, the songs leitmotif, the version number of SURVEY_PROGRAM, the way that the save screen behaves before chapter 1 proper, and more) into the very start of the game only for him to go "lmao pranked :^)" a decade later.

>>713829337 (OP)
>still hasn't shown up or played any significant role in the story
secondary confirmed.

>>713831810
>Ralsei's slowly losing his mind

>>713831905
I liked the idea of deeper layer dark world better than titan

this is the protagonist of this adventure
say something nice about him (female)

>>713832126
Yeah, it kinda is a let down.

Is Ralsei a good singer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSrz3kbWip0

>>713832126
>this shitpost was more accurate than all the theories about Neo Dark World

>>713832126
i think the titan only spawned because the knight made 5x fountains in the same spot at once, presumably only making a single fountain within a dark world would've been 'fine'
ralsei likely just freaked out to nip that line of thinking in the bud

>>713832126
>DARK
>DARKER
>YET DARKER
Someone's gonna open up a fountain inside the titan, trust the plan.

>>713831425
Gooner follow Gaster??

>>713832372
Ralsei literally says "DON'T MAKE ANOTHER DARK FOUNTAIN!" Implying even one would be enough to make a Titan. The Knight using 5 swords was just it being chuuni as per usual.

>by far the most mysterious character in UT
>this, in turn, makes his brother even MORE mysterious
>direct connection to gaster
>3 chapters left and we actually know even LESS about him (can teleport in DR already)
>we know hes from DR because "it's raining somewhere else" -> "the place it rained"
>first mandatory interaction is him fucking your mom
Is Toby really just copping out and will never actually explain him?

>>713832346
>Ralsei wants to sing soft and charming songs
>forced to rock out instead

>>713829337 (OP)
>still hasn't shown up or played any significant role in the story
Hes in almost every single text box what are you talking about

>>713832878
Ascended schizo, explain.

>>713832814
There's weird shit going on with him, in the first two in-game days when you check his house you hear the shuffling of the trousle. But in the end of chapter 4, you can look in and its empty/silent.
Now does this mean that he's the knight or some other crazy shit? Likely not but it probably has some meaning considering toby was consistent with the trousle thing for both chapters 1 and 2.

>>713831060
>finally get to directly talk to Kris
>you try, but Kris can't understand a word you're saying and thinks you're spouting schizobattle
>Kris gathers the whole gang to take you down
>Kris gets the final schizo crystal if you let them win

>>713829717
>>713830132

Egg man is kris' memory of gaster, the other is gaster after he fell and shattered into a psychotic mess. The only way to change the prophecy is to SAVE gaster by giving him an EGG

>>713829337 (OP)
>still hasn't played any significant role in the story
for all we know hes one of the most important characters so far

Last thread delorted before I could post it but
tl;dr Mantle linearity and how hard it tries to prevent you from escaping
>>713832119
Board 1 has Cacti you can easily kill yourself on right from the get go.
Board 2 requires you to pick up the sword, but after that you can kill yourself with the Not Alphi that spit and jump at you
Board 3 from what I remember explicitly has no means of escape without killing Ralsei and Susie to first enter the dungeon

>>713830132
Which are...?

>>713832814
>papyrus isnt the knight
>toby uses "the place it rained" on not a sans scene, but a susie scene
i think toby just hates the guy now

>>713833012
>Meet new and endearing main characters, as well as familiar faces like Toriel, Sans, as more. Huh? Papyrus? No, he's busy. Sorry
This being on the steam page is really suspicious, Toby went out of his way to mention him there. Something's up.

>>713833090
Doesn't the game reset whenever you try to kill yourself? It did whenever I died on Board 3.

>People are surprised the "character" Toby made to effectively not exist has in fact not shown up.

I know he´s a easy target for explaining anyway any theory, but theres always been a 50/50 chance of him in fact just not being a thing because not existing is kinda the joke there.

>>713833119
Ghaster controls saving and loading, as well as the connection that allows us to interact with the world of deltarune at all. He is our patron, and could cut us off at any moment he chooses.

>>713833031
I still believe our SOVL will be instrumental in Ralsei becoming a real boy. There's a reason why Spamton wanted it so hard - and he made couple of Pinocchio references, both his items benefit Ralsei the most and Ralsei has by far the most curious reaction to him.

>>713833012
>pic
he's just like me ;_;

>>713832967
The asterisk in almost every single text box.
His namesake, Gaster, as in Asterisk.
Just like Sans is names for Comic sans and Papirus for...Papirus.
I'm sure you dont need me to tell you the relation between these three characters

>>713832814
>>713833123
Reminder that it would only take one skelebros dark world chapter to explain ALL of this, and gaster.

>>713832874
it's ok he sung the fluffy boy version too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2v4jcbOigU

>>713833228
IIRC and I could be remembering it wrong, but you are allowed to escape if you don't pick up the sword or kill any enemies.

>>713833274
Toby isnt a hack thankfully, it's just he doesnt have enough time to explain it in a satisfying way unless he hyperfocuses on it randomly

>>713833174
I agree, and honestly there's a lot of background details that add up to paint a picture he was supposed to be relevant in some way. Beta Papyrus, the fact his theme was supposed to be DR's main battle theme way back then, a lot of it is suspicous. its why I used to be a hardcore knightfag for papyrus before the newest chapters
>>713833354
No matter what happens I do hope Beta Papyrus is in the game, the concept is oddly... sympathetic in a weird way. He's a lost loser just like us.

>>713830839
Anon, this design has been so universally accepted as the Gaster design that there's no way Toby won't use it. Maybe not the literal same sprite, but mysterman is absolutely gaster.

>>713830132
>Eggman doesn't talk like gaster
His personality and exact manner of speaking is different from Gaster's, but they have the same "voice" and he hits so many other Gaster-isms that it was impossible not to associate them
When this letter was found the only possible conclusions were that this was Gaster and we were simply seeing a different side of him, or it was someone/something extremely close to Gaster, which is how people guessed it was The Forgotten Man, who seems to more or less be Deltarune's Gaster

>>713832126
We never saw what happens if you successfully beat the titan

>>713833090
Actually, speaking of the Cacti,didn't one of the pipins say there is a key underneith the house cactus?
Like it's probably just the Lancer puzzle hint, but I havn't seen anybody attempt to lift the cactus with susie in the 00000 code puzzle door where you end up in 8bit kris's house.
Toriel's room is STILL locked and it's very likly there really is a key in the light world cactus location knowing toby, we just can't access that since Kris only inspects the cactus

>>713829337 (OP)
>My Deltarune.
It's his game.

>>713832814
remember how in undertale humans were described as being powerful magic users, and sans and papyrus just 'showed up' one day?
they didn't come from deltarune, they came from the surface
WD gaster is a formerly human lich, and sans and papyrus are his phylacteries
Deltarune, 'my deltarune' is his reanimation protocol after being shattered across space

>>713833645
oh i didn't even think about the unintentional up skirt

>SUSIE AND KRIS ARE FUCKING REAL, OKAY!?? STOP DEMANDING THEIR MERCH, NIGGERS!
What did Tobias meant by that?

>>713833510
What similarities? The only things they have in common is speaking in all caps and not showing their face. Do we need to put jackenstein on team gaster too now?

>>713831583
I love the aesthetic of these games but conventional rpgs suck

>>713830320
Most likely.

>>713830936
Haha wow that’s pretty accur-
>Mfw I noticed the rose in the chapter 3 column
My God Toby actually made this

All I know is that I'm going to shank whoever's responsible for throwing out MY vessel and forcing me to babysit Kris. That beginning sequence really tickled my OC autism, and I feel like the only person in the world upset about this.

Ore no... Deltaruno

>>713833090
>>713833473
You can escape Board 3 without doing anything by killing yourself on the golden cactus in the "shop"

>>713833645
I choose flirt.

>>713833784
based artistic integrity

>>713832814
I think we will particularly in the next chapter, my long-shot guess is that the badge thats in his lab in undertale is deltarune-asgore's police badge and that he passes it onto sans when he dies to continue on the case that he started, or to help protect the gang after hes gone

>>713833645
Ralsei didn't climb you secondary. He flew up there. This is why only Kris and Susie had that segment together.

>>713832126
I've been thinking how the whole titan thing is kind of lame to me, among all these weird things going on, mysteries, conspiracies, allegories, even the basic idea of a dark world is real world things becoming twisted and anthropomorphic - but then uh here here's the final boss that's not related to anything it's just pure evil that wants nothing but destruction and you have to murderize it and it dies - like that's really underwhelming even with all the bells and whistles the ch4 ending sequence has

>>713830936
>rip

i don't like that.

>>713833495
I hope he doesn't use the same sprite. I've seen it used in too many shitposts that I don't think I could ever take it seriously anymore.

>>713830778
Gaster discarded our vessel exactly because he would know this would prompt player to prove him wrong about our choices having no meaning and in the end play into his plans.
Just like Flowey he is playing long game with his rare interactions, but more skilfully.

>>713830936
what the fuck
why is this the first time i'm seeing this image

Is it weird that I feel 7 chapters wont be enough? Its like, we only barely in the beginnings, got introduced, got the Fun Gang going, saw the prophecy, learned the basics about the town and its secrets and how the dark worlds work and caught glimpses of potential several entities or groups with their own agendas moving but its like an prologue to the big things to come. Its like, there will be tons of big adventures and big reveals and huge concepts coming on, the entire world and story just seems so vast that it cannot be possibly told and wrapped up completely in the remaining three chapters.

Its such a weird, schizoid feeling and it keeps driving me up the fucking wall. I'd love to have more "filler" adventures too like chapter 3, we could have a dozen of it and not get bored yet there is just so little Deltarune left to consume and chapter 7 is already so close.

I'd love a new chapter each year for about a decade or more even, a real magnum opus.

>>713831425
I want to be trapped into the Gooner Vessel boobs.

>>713830936
ok but has anyone actually analyzed what each of these bits mean
like there's no rook no fish no rose no chariel (not a major role) no purple heart no bullet no shocked toriel,
It's basically only two things right
4th has the church and green heart right plus the tombstone, maybe the angel thing but the top two biblical things are a maybe and there was no bishop

>>713831395
It's kinda like people who keep guessing the knight is Dess. We don't really know but logically makes the most sense.

>>713833921
I disagree. It's setting up the stakes of failure. The Lancer Fan Club barely won against a newly-formed Titan, and they won't have Gerson to save them next time.

>>713833891
Right, I refused to play board 3 but from what I heard there was NOTHING there besides the ropes blocking the dungeon.

>>713832258
Frisk was hotter.

>>713833510
>>713830132
>>713829717
The Gaster who talks to us throughout the game is Undertale's Gaster. He connected (You) to Kris after seeing (You) beat Undertale through determination.
Eggman is Delrarune's Gaster, who was Kris' former therapist and got BTFO'd by his UT counterpart.
Papyrus and Sans are also both Gaster btw. He got shattered across time and space after all.

>>713833495
Fanon isn't canon

>>713829337 (OP)
Gaster won't show up unless you did the egg stuff, and it won't be related to the main story
and it will also tease ANOTHER game.

>>713834073
I thought it was going to be 8 chapters

This is so far the best theory of all.
Recognize?
Agree?

>>713830936
Was "Titan" from chapter 4 ever leaked in 2022? How would this anon predict attack on titans? And Amogus? And Gerson with green heart??

>>713834197
>The Lancer Fan Club barely won against a newly-formed Titan, and they won't have Gerson to save them next time.
Strictly speaking, they didn't actually need Gerson beyond giving them the idea to jump into the Titan and seal it.
It could have been done at any point the Titan's shield was down.

>>713830936
Ralsei will be schizo meltdown in chapter 6
He is already being broken by prophecy, by chapter 6 he will be given black shard and lose his shit, just like other schizo bosses did

>>713832814
>>first mandatory interaction is him fucking your mom
*Saving Toriel and making fun of her would be kidnapper (Kris).

>>713829717
Eggman is DR Gaster
White text man is UT Gaster
Whatever Gaster did in UT ended up either fucking over DR Gaster as collateral damage, or he purposely fucked up his alternate self for unknown reasons.

>>713833743
>they didn't come from deltarune, they came from the surface
toby wrote this line specifically to kill this theory
papyrus also doesnt know what the sun is in the true pacifist ending

>LIKE OKAY SISTERS WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT GONER DEVIL MAN GASTER AND HE'S THE BIG BAD AND TEH GONERS ARE LE EVIL LOST KRIS HAND IN MY ASS!!!!
>FRIEND IS HIS AGENT AND THE PLAYER IS LE EBUL VILLAIN TOO KRIS IS A GUD BOI WHO NEVER DID ANYTHING WRONG!!!!!

>>713834073
>Is it weird that I feel 7 chapters wont be enough?
I think it will be if there's really 3 routes
>Normal
>Twisted Sword(Aborted Genocide + Shadow Crystals)
>Snowgrave
There's always a chance releases a chapter 0 too, I honestly don't think its off the cards. Its more likely than it going beyond 7.

Never forget who your enemies are.

Will assgore ever get a happy ending

It's amazing how Noelle's character is entirely saved by the Weird Route, without rapeplayer she is worthless

do you think we can trust what the mantle says about kris or was it gaslighting him

>>713834251
Hard agree.

>>713834117
if that was actually from some insider or toby himself back in 2022, the stuff that's wrong is likely just cut content

>>713834318
gaster is a good guy though

Toriel is drunk again...

>>713834197
My issue is that it's nothing narratively, and to make it worse we know a fool-proof way to insta-kill it, you need to drop it's shield once and jump into it's mouth. Even if it wasn't so easily defeated the existential threat of big stupid monsters stomping on buildings is way less interesting than all the interpersonal drama and weird secret shit

>>713834117
The fish one might be the reverse given Undyne abducted and the unused Shadow Crystal use for chapter 3. From there you could guess something along the line of Carol Snowgraving her in the shelter to keep out of comission.

>>713829337 (OP)
>>still hasn't shown up or played any significant role in the story
>he doesn't know

>>713832814
im telling you man at one point both the entire house and the store are just gonna be gone from HOMETOWN with zero explanation

>>713834421
I think it's too early to discount Titans as "nothing" when we just met one for the first time at the end of the most recent chapter.

>>713834351
not like that, going postal next chapter is his only hope

>>713834347
when does this happen?

>>713834347
>Enemy weakness: ICE. Use your strongest ice spell
What did Kris mean by this?

>>713834271
The rose feels especially egregious even though it’s listed as Chapter 3 instead of 4

>>713833905
Unironically kino.

>>713834409
Nigga he says MY Deltarune not OUR Deltarune he’s clearly in this for himself

>>713834419
How many STDs does she have?

>>713834539
During the Knight fight, if you try to check it,

>>713833921
I think the fact that the Titans are so generic doomsday is kind of the point. Like, kind of the point to the metanarrative side of Deltarune, outside of what's going on with Lightner/Darkner drama, the bits involving Gaster and the fact that all the Undertale characters are there and stuff. The basicness of the Titans seems more like the proverbial off-switch rather than anything genuinely meaningful.

>>713834117
CHess pieces are irrelevant now because we don't know the meaning behind them until someone or something reveal (are they characters related? place related? importance related?)

Fish might have been Undyne having more exposure and plot relevance before being defeated by Knight, chapter 3 was in development hell

Toriel was obviously involved in the darkner world and she's important to the story

Purple heart with bullet related battle mechanic was probably also lost in development hell

>>713834409
>>713834642
Gaster summoned you to create a new future.
Kris is the rival, the cage restricting the player and using them as a tool for their own selfish ends.
The Prophecy is the antagonist to the player, and Kris is an agent of it...ergo, Kris is the antagonist and villain.
Kris is the cage, restricting choice and freedom. You will be discarded like trash once he uses you up.

>>713834347
i'm gonna rape the deer just for that
fuck you kris

>>713833891
>the normal route will have kris sacrificing himself to save the world
>the weird route has susie and ralsei dying, but kris lives
>the route between will let you save everyone, but kris will lose his hand

>>713830936
>>713834117
the image falls apart for me when i see the fish because its obvious the person who made it believed in firegrave. its a cooked fish

>>713834642
he is directly linking us to the deltarune world, allowing us to play and interact with the characters
how is gaster not a good guy in this context? he benefits our lives directly

>>713834117
It's bullshit pushed by one guy. It's wrong in every way that matters.

>>713834351
Asgore's gonna hang out with someone at the festival tommorrow and Toriel "I immediately attack both my immediate family members with fire magic in Undertale" Dremurrn't is going to freak.

Imagine explaining deltarune to someone in 2015

>>713834117
It got right that next chapter will be asgore in a field of flowers

>>713834669
whenever I tried to check it it just says something along the lones that trying to check is a waste of time

>>713834419
I'd PLAP that.

>>713833816
If you're a zoomer with ADHD, maybe.

>>713830936
Not even the first time Toby pulls this shit. He posted this meme back in December 2016 through a Reddit account called "u/danknessin_memesout"

https://www.reddit.com/r/me_irl/s/j9Mq7IbdPL

>>713834865
>it got right
not confirmed so we cant assume anything

kek

>>713834781
>Implying Toriel is oblivious and not on board

>>713834374
I wouldn't put past the mantle to know stuff about Kris, it's already kind of aware of you.
>The same part of you that enjoyed yesterday.
>Knowing you could say it wasn't really you.

>>713834541
Kris likes Snowgrave but likes to blame it all on (You).

>>713834419
Is this before or after she got boned by Sans? I want to know how far along our resident meme skeleton pushed her corruption.

>>713834117
Chapter 3 lacks hometown so I assume everything from it was moved
But:
Fish is undyne getting captured
Purple heart is mantle fight (room colour, lack of freedom of movement)
Rose is orginal noelle weird route scene symbolism
Toriel references sans and her party
Most of those are right, but among us and rose are two giveaways, no way you predict those withouth knowledge

>>713833806
>What similarities?
The letter is described as "strange"
The writing is "illegible"
There are frequent and unusual line breaks
It directly acknowledges "DELTA RUNE"
When it's finished, it suddenly and inexplicably disappears

The Man is always described vaguely and indirectly, "Well, there is a man here," "He is behind the tree." Similarly, Gaster's theme is simply "him," and the sprite universally assumed to represent him is "mysteryman."
The Man has been forgotten by everyone and can only exist in places that shouldn't exist, rooms between rooms that can't be found and disappear when you leave them. It's also normally impossible for him to communicate with you within the game, even if you do manage to find him. Both of these qualities also seem to apply to Gaster.

dess...

>>713835049
The rose is on fire, though.

>>713835030
He didn't get to far, let's say that

>>713835012
i don't think he likes it at all considering he tries to undo it after. i think he just can't take us out in dark world and it seems like he'd rather go through with it than reveal the secret to noelle and just rip us out in front of her to stop us

>>713834962
not funny

>>713835030
I think it's her college years.

>>713834720
Maybe that makes sense, just treating them as the end of the game you can't stop no matter what, like the majora's mask moon, forming a closed timeframe together with the start of the game for you to act in and dig into the game's creepypasta shit to try and change things.
I guess that's what they were from the first time we heard the prophecy, it just felt weird to actually fight one - like, it was already said if titans show up the world is ending, actually encountering and defeating one undermines the threat if anything, you know what I mean

>>713834878
No, turn based can be fun, i used to play pokemon red a lot, but if there's nothing more to an rpg just back and forth then yeah they stuck

>>713835148
>"deltarune spoilers"
>look inside
>fanfiction

>>713835186
For me it's funny, whore-iel

>>713835180
>i don't think he likes it at all considering he tries to undo it after.
He did a really half ass job
Why didn't he discard the ThornRing? Why doesn't he tell anyone? Ralsei knows about Snowgrave and he doesn't tell him anything

>>713834117
>>713834428
>>713834727
>>713835049
It’s a roasted fish. It’s supposed to be Firegrave.

>>713833490
>No matter what happens I do hope Beta Papyrus is in the game, the concept is oddly... sympathetic in a weird way. He's a lost loser just like us.
it's better that Papyrus is his own character rather than a Dedan expy.
A smarmy dickhead is tough to make into an endearing character.

>>713834868
it happens when you try to check its final attack

>>713834419
What a hard-working mother!

>Noelle thank you scene
>"how long did it take for her to smile" ends in thank you
>picrel has lost girl remix that ends in thank you

He is the Eggman

>>713835371
why'd he do it?

>>713829337 (OP)
His entire reason for existing is to be an Easter egg, why would he show up? Normal players aren't supposed to know he exists.

>>713834962
>kek

>>713835164
Yeah, and noelle is connected with ice. if it was any other element i would agree that its out of place, but its both direct opposition of what person behind rose is and rose getting destroyed, so exactly what happens in weird route
You rob her of innocence (rose getting destroyed) and subvert her being (from ice to fire) by planting piece of your soul inside her
Its all symbolic

>>713835330
the thorn ring is just a thorn in the real world right? i dunno that whole bit seems fucky. it seems like we just pulled it out of thin air

>>713835364
alright, thanks

>"oh bro the knight without the shadow mantle is super fucking hard!!!"
>pic related im one turn away from beating it
why are fags here so bad at videogames? chopper bros. can do this under 7 turns

>>713835330
>Why didn't he discard the ThornRing
Twisted Sword
>Why doesn't he tell anyone?
He'd be admitting to murder, or he'd have to explain what exactly the soul is and that'd probably fuck up all his plans

>>713835342
So its cut content. I feel like Toriel was suppose to do something in chapter 3 but its now scrapped.

>>713834428
The Roaring Knight is probably a Holiday, given all current hints, right
So maybe it was a cut idea to freeze her

Second idea is Noelle being cut, which is disappointing to a degree

Third idea is NG+ with Noelle, my giga cope

Fourth idea is the Shadow Crystals giving glimpses into other timelines, Susie glaring at Kris and Noelle whispering to him still stands out to me as very odd

>>713834921
hm...

>>713835398
>I hope that you can be FRIENDs with everyone someday
FRIEND confirmed to be innocent, he was just following orders

Slut

>>713835557
Hmmm Twisted Sword is a really big thorn(partial pun intended) in the plot so far
Trance down could be trance down for us, but it could also be trance down for whoever he's working with so he regains control

From what we know, the thorn is nonexistent on a standard run right?

>>713835557
>He'd be admitting to murder
Berdly isn't dead

>There are 5 keys
>But you only need 3
>There are 5 shadow crystals
Is it possible we only need 3 crystals?

>>713835641
Its just a Mike Pence meme about gay people. Really, Really fucky coincidence but I doubt its actually Toby. Unless Mike... hates gays????

>>713835502
I'd be more inclined to believe if it was ice honestly, saying that fire fits us subverting her being is kind of a stretch, when we will probably use her for more ice shit in the future. We're subverting her being to purely BEING a ice weapon, not melting the Ice away.

>>713835557
>>713835728
I'm adding onto this, why can't he confide in Ralsei about it? Berdly is knocked out with the flu

>>713835730
If you could get by with 3 then it wouldn't really explain why Seam is so much of a doomer if you lose to the knight.

>>713835551
He shot a burglar, it was dess, now he's in debt with the holiday family

>>713835730
3 = Ralsei Susie and Kris

I doubt secret bosses are neccessary to follow normal route

>>713835674
Sorry I posted the wrong pic.

>>713835148
I'll be honest, if Dess is the Knight, the idea that the Knight looks like a monster to everyone except Kris, who sees her as he knew her, is kinda cool.

>>713835620
Noelle cut from chapter 3 atleast seems unlikely given how it was setup in the first place, no chance for her to be anywhere nearby to be in that Dark World.

>>713835845
needs correction, owes me a footjob

>>713835728
ok then, putting him in a fucking coma.

>>713835674
I miss nigga Ralsei

>>713835398
>I just hope you can be friends with everyone one day
We're going to break bonds on every path, nothing will be clean.

>>713835883
>>713835674
Both are sluts

>>713835330
kris asks susie to follow him into berdly's room in the hospital

>>713835549
Too bad that specific instance of M&L can't do Chopper Bros

>>713834921
Wut

>>713835845
She needs correction

>>713835914
Could have atleast let him keep the hat.

>>713836005
No, he specifically asks to go in alone

>>713836028
millennial "humor" be like

>>713833495
I think Toby has a clear idea of what he wants from Gaster, and had it before all the fanon started, so I doubt he'd change it in the event Mysteryman isn't Gaster. It'll be a tough pill for the fandom to swallow but there are already piles of corpses of now-incompatible fanworks from the first two chapters of the game

>>713836056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FLRHejWAo8

>>713835850
Oh christ that is what happened, isn't it? Dess was sneaking in to see Asriel late at night, Asgore didn't know, thought it was a burglar and shot her, which traumatized Asriel, which in turn made Toriel hate Asgore.

I believe in Tobert. If even xitter and tumblr switches to Krusie, then it must be the end goal.

>>713831486
It's Gaster's good twin brother

>>713830132
But Gaster's lab in Undertale has that moment with the man and a tree, you find him in a "room between" just like the eggman, and in the Spamton NEO fight eggs come out of his phone but we then find out the person he kept talking to on the phone used Gaster's garbled noise.

Do we need two mysterious Easter egg characters?

>>713836216
I dont think Asgore shoot before he thinks. It's monster town, not America

>>713836110
>yeah that's what i meant. not sure where the "not" went.

>>713834421
We're gonna find out that titan was a baby or something

>>713835148
Canon.

>>713836028
>Deltarune is an allegory for depression
BRAVO TOBY

>it started with giving susie the mantle to have any chance of beating the knight
>post victories i give it to ralsei just so he doesn't fucking die in one hit

>He didn't recruit Nubert
>He didn't fully repair Tenna
>He let Jackenstein die
(You) didn't beat the game

>>713835180
Why didn't he destroy the ThornRing? He wanted us to undo everything, subconsciously.

>>713836301
Dess sneaking in the room Asriel shares with Kris to begin with also is a bizarre move, theres higher chances that Asriel would been the one sneaking out of the house if anything.

>>713836412
How could we forget it

>>713833784
>Jevil gets a plush, plush
>Spamton gets a [Marketable Plushie]
>Tenna doesn't get jack shit

LET US HUG THE TV TOBY

Here makes me think, Susy worries about her safety because Kris is always with a knife and she threatens him

>>713836301
If it's dark and he sees an unknown figure looming over his son, I could see him acting before thinking.

>>713836427
>he didn't recruit nubert
sorry chud I have to to do the snowgrave funny

>>713835398
I don't remember this.

>>713833174
he's busy being the knight

>>713836427
some people unironically missed jackenstein somehow

>>713836517
Tenna didn't have a shadow crystal, ergo no plushie.

>>713836543
it was one of the first teasers of Noelle being a party member, I think

>>713836518
She's probably thinking about all the times Kris could've flayed her into dino nuggets whenever she bullied him at school.

>>713836517
he literally got one recently

>>713836517
>toriel's holding the wine bottle

>>713835398
WHERE'S THE FUCKING THANK YOU

okay okay guys so
where is the music

deltarune 1 and 2 had good music, everyone covered it, undertale too. what good music brings us chapter 3+4?

entering deltarune 1 there are this good theme, field of hopes and dreams. entering second part there are "cybers world" right away. but i don't see anyone posting 3+4 music.

>>713836028
>kris is anxious
>susie is depressed
>ralsei is insecure
Checks out

>>713836693
A figure isn't a plushie.

>>713836624
Oh, right. So shouldn't the Knight and Gerson have plushies?

>>713833891
>Kris's skin is gray here
Is Kris's skin tone varying, possibly due to lighting, something that happens anywhere else besides Susie's dark world?

>>713836216
Pretty much, except replace Asgore with Toriel and put "didn't know" in quotes.

>>713836528
its retarded, we dont know if guns even exist in this world

>>713836517
He's getting a figurine.

do you thin tenna pulls an undertale alphys if you don't give him to mettaton?

>>713829337 (OP)
DEL
TA
TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>713836416
Ralsei is expendable in the fight.

>>713836693
That's a figurine, I can't hug a figurine properly.

>>713836518
she doesn't give a fuck, if anything she thinks it's cool

>>713836715
Anon, look at the timestamp of the original picture and try again.

What is in Toriel's room? Why does she always keep the door closed?

>>713830936
>>713834117
>Cooked fish
"in Chapter 3 Weird Route Kris will make Toriel KILL Undyne with FIREGRAVE" fanfiction
>Rook
"Mike 'Rook' Tenna" fanfiction for retards
>Burning rose
"Asgore's trash flowers secret boss" fanfiction
>Purple heart
"dude reverse Undertale soul modes lmao" fanfiction
>bullet
Just throwing shit at the wall
>Chariel
>"Game Show Host"
>Toriel will be there
>Kris and Susie will have to steal the TV to put Tenna in the closet (this doesn't even happen until Chapter 4)
This is all just basic shit anyone could put together after Chapter 2

>"dude Angels lmao"
Wow no shit the church had religious imagery
>Bishop
le chess theory fanfiction for retards
>"DUDE IT'A AMOGUS REFERENCE DUDE THEY CALLED IT REAL LEAK DUDE"
The joke is "Ralsei is sus," this is "evil Ralsei theory" fanfiction for retards
>green SOUL
"dude reverse Undertale soul modes lmao" fanfiction
too bad you didn't make the easy OBERON SMOG call you dumb bitch

>fireworks = Festival
>flower shop Dark World
Both easy calls to make after Chapter 2
Notice how everything after this for Chapter 6 and 7 degenerates into random schizo nonsense because we didn't get any obvious telegraphs that far ahead
>Knight
"dude chess theory" fanfiction for retards
oopsie whoopsie the Knight showed up two chapters ago, guess that was just a load of shit the whole time huh, too bad that was your only coherent thread leading into Chapter 6 and 7

>>713835263
There are a ton of actual spoilers in there.

>>713836725
besides the church and the battle themes, chapter 3 and 4 didn't have as much great music IMO

>>713836693
One of those plushie is rocker Ralsei. But who's the other one?

>>713836850
>Kris breaks into Toriel's room and makes a Dark World
>dildo Darkners

>>713836752
that's a look of "holy shit he's been LETTING me do that" if i've ever seen it