Thread 713882060

>1000 signatures an hour for the last 3 days
Why hasn't it slowed down yet?

>>713882060 (OP)
It'll never hit a million

they were notified

>>713882060 (OP)
>gaymers: NOOOO STOP KILLING GAMES NOOOOOOOOOOOO
>me, a chad: haha no, i will kill games as i please. get pwnt + ur brown

>>713882386
Indian paws typed this post

>>713882386
Stop Killing Games, start killing devs

>>713882436
your indian
esl esl brown brown browwn

>>713882060 (OP)
Youtubers nad their lemmings are the most obnoxious people on the planet.

>>713882495
>nad
ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL ESL

>>713882269
You lost discord tranny

>>713882060 (OP)
>Why hasn't it slowed down yet?
Because I'm doing my part and you should too

EU is ESL retards

>Many, many months of nobody caring.
>Some drama with a few e-celebs. Now everyone is signing it to own one misinformed youtuber.
So it was just that easy, huh? Why didn't they do this much sooner then?

>>713882578
EUs are Indians in disguise
american is the only country that matter

>>713882060 (OP)
Because I'm botting it

GET THOSE TWITTER ACCOUNTS READY
#Stopkillinggames

>>713882582
>Why didn't they do this much sooner then?
Spite is powerful motivator but a nasty one
I guess it's good to roll it out as last resort because it can backfire massively and hurt the goal instead of helping it

>>713882060 (OP)
Still not signing.
This is one of those things that'll end up like GDPR where the downsides are gonna outweight the upsides.

>>713882060 (OP)
Oy vey shut it down

>>713882789
U r Jeet

>>713882789
>I'm too retarded to download browser plugin that automatically detects queries about cookies and fill them up for me
we know

>>713882060 (OP)
It's not going anywhere, unfortunately. Nothing ever happens and the status quo of lameness is eternal.

>>713882582
Because Ross doesn't like drama nor wanted to spearhead this thing. But PirateSoftware lied so badly and acted like an asshole without wanting to have any proper discussion that he had no choice and just exposed how badly PirateSoftware lied. Doesn't help that the idiot has been doing other shit things that have tanked his reputation.

>>713882930
i actually have that addon, it works about 10% of the time.

>>713882060 (OP)
Still not signing your commie propaganda

>>713882980
>putting end to forever rehashed games like cowadooty series
>against my own interests

has someone asked Ross about licensed games like Marvel Rivals? who has to sign off on end-o-life plans there, Disney, Marvel Games or NetEase?

corpos could also argue that those games are their IP and they don't have to share code with anybody.

>>713882635
>that matter
SAAR

>>713883180
Just allow a server hostung option. Not hard zoomer

>7th thread
faggot janny do your joooooooooooooooooooooooooob

>>713883321
thats not how licenses work rhanjesh

>you are not allowed to maintain IP rights of your product you must do what the commie faggot niggers tell you to do
lol

>>713883409
But it's how you stop killing games which is the point zoom zoom

You cunts are alright, save vidya for us, thanks.

>>713883419
Nobody is asking devs to give up their ip rights?

>>713882667
what day even? also why didn't the guy just pick a day?

>>713883419
>misrepresenting this hard
Thor you furfaggot get out

is EOL plans are implemented for games what exactly would stop fanservers from monetizing shit?

>>713882789
nah, it's like when Australia sued Valve and got the world refunds

>>713883497
Ignore him, pirate software is paying troll farms to say this shit

it will be a long road
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAgUYyosqVM

>>713882060 (OP)
I wish the PirateSoftware faggot was called out sooner

>>713883419
>capitalism is when you care exclusively for the interests of the producer, not the consumer
the most effective grift commies managed to pull off, I will give them that

qrd on this fucking spammed shit?

EVERYONE EXCEPT ME IS INDIAN !!!!!!!!!!!

>>713882060 (OP)
Reminder that the literal AIDS faggots easily reached a million signatures for their initiative.
Total blackpill.

>>713883691
apple usb C cable effect initiative but video games instead

>>713883705
>don't sign a petition because people you don't like made one too
Actual retard mentality.

I don't agree with Ross but I do have to admit that thor is a complete retard and huge faggot.

>>713882980
>IT'S YOUR INTERESTS
>WHY?
>BECAUSE I SAY SO

fuck off, not signing your gay pledge

>>713882060 (OP)
turns out people really like to own things they paid for

must be a crazy concept for zoomers

>>713883751
Where did I say to not sign, retard?

>>713883419
>communism is when you own the property you pay for
nice one, Jason

>>713882060 (OP)
I'm going to personally kill EVERY single game if this passes. You cannot stop me.

>>713883516
We will see soon

i couldn't find one maltese fortnite or sports fc youtuber
pry an island of criminals

>>713883782
>implying you can
They don't let indians or goylems sign it, sorry.

>>713883651
>cute animals have dozens of NGOs to support them and gamers only have themselves
yeah we know

>>713882060 (OP)
ITT: Chud commie incels. Stop trying to force devs into supporting live-service slop forever.

>>713883940
see >>713883684

>>713882060 (OP)
I'm still not signing, people are getting REALLY annoying with this movement and all the e-celeb stuff surrounding it, it seems people care about couple of e-celeb guys more than the actual movement! The movement also sucks, who cares about some random garbage online game, they shouldn't be supported forever, those games should be killed.

(You) Will own your games and (You) will like it.

>>713883691
Read the FAQ, kid.

It's okay to kill games

>>713883782
it's only for EU citizens, so it doesn't matter what you do, Jamal

>>713883691
>buy a bottle of water
>company says your water is expired and steals it from you
>you're left with the bottle and without water
StopKillingWater is just trying to stop this

>>713883986
>I am trans and retarded
Ok, go back to your marvel rivals general

>>713882980
how?
i don't lose anything
the corpos lose a few days wages for one guy to repurpose their server software to be able to run on anything without phoning home

How long until ross gets outed as a pedo groomer?

>>713882578
>EU is ESL retards
Yes? Only two countries in the EU have English as a primary language and they're fucking tiny.

>>713884015
>It's okay to kill games
is killing ferrets ok?

>>713884015
It's ok to call you a gayfurfag ferret fucker, incompetent """dev""" and extreme narcissist.

vidya died with steam

>actually do want to own my games and not eat the bugs
>get called a commie
Can we please range ban Israel already?

>>713884015
Okay Jason
>Kills MYM

why is 4chan shilling this? kiwifarms and reddit are pro stop killing games as well, fuck this commie garbage
>>713884145
its your fault man you same people are fellating that fat fuck gabe newell

>>713884138
just come up with something for them next
australia is tiny and made them have refunds, imagine what you could do with the EU

>>713884145
We all know israel just uses proxies for that kind of interference campaigns.

>>713883651
gamers are the most oppressed minority
they have no lobby

>>713883651
>fur free europe
no wonder the ferret fucker hates these initiatives

>>713884138
Not my problem. Feels good to use the last platform where I actually own my games. Not even consoles offer that anymore.

>>713882578
oh no
anyway

>>713883104
>Publisher acquires non-slop
>Oh btw we're sunsetting this because it competes with our slop
>>713883180
IP can go take a long walk off a short pier.
>>713883321
The only license that "works" is AGPLv3+NIGGER. Viral copyleft licenses are the only thing preventing excessive litigation and NPE bullshit.
>>713883419
>IP rights
IP is not a right, it's ostensibly a misguided concession towards maintaining the motivation towards innovation. The vastly overreaching nature of IP law necessitates equal amounts of government intervention to prevent negative consequences stemming from the existing government intervention associated with enforcing IP law in the first place.
>>713883342
Better than before when the janny outright deleted every thread or moved them to /pol/.
>>713884138
Vidya died with DRM and the DMCA, companies were doing account shit and limited installs before Steam.

>>713884192
>why does everyone want corpos to spend one thousand bucks on paying a guy to repurpose games so that they're always playable I WANT TO BE CONTRARIAN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I am immune to demoralization. We're going to make it bros.

>my dad actually worked at blizzard
>didn't make a twitch career out of it
not fair bros

>>713884192
Jeet

>>713884205
that was mostly eu as well

>>713883691
from a glance seems like some sort of woke troon shit....

>>713883869
No, Mangione, please. You are supposed to kill CEOs.

Glad I can play Quake whenever I want, maybe some Ratchet Deadlocked as well.

>>713884192
The farm is just in to shit on the furfag but your shit is peak contrarianism so your ass is actually worthless for anything that matters.
>What's that, reddit likes breathing air?
>nah, Imma stop breathing because I ain't like those retarded gay commies.

>>713884192
>Owning is communism
You are either an amerimutt or brown

>>713884291
>>713884307
>>713884378
i am a contrarian indeed but its fucking annoying this movement these same people are fellating that fat fuck gabe newell so hard, they're so fake

>>713884138
I don't really care as long as piracy is viable
stop killing games will give us an in into the last unpirateable stuff like always online drm (denuvo) and live service faggotry

I WILL OWN NOTHING
AND I WILL BE HAPPY

>>713884273
>before Steam.
No they were not. They used offline CD keys. All the online DRM options came out after Steam as other companies tried to compete with them. It's why tons of games "on disc" from the mid-2000s are completely unplayable on PC today because of their DRM servers shutting down.

>>713884138
Nope. Videogames would die before Steam. Steam allows you to keep a game for years or decades and download it ad many times as you want. Companies actively experimented with malware-tier DRM's and making it so a game can only be installed/registered a few times on a single copy. And no, selling your games was not considered as officially legal and corpos wanted to fight against it because they'd be getting no money from the used game market.

>>713883691
We're dunking on Gaming Judas, that's all you need to know.

>>713884273
>Oh btw we're sunsetting this because it competes with our slop
good, now they're forced to release post-support tools to the public so people can run things like servers themselves

>>713884407
considering gabe is shilling linux and his drm is paper thin none of this is contradictory

>>713884407
Well, I'm a gay commie and I like posting on 4chan. Better for you to stop doing that now.

>>713884426
If you played that garbage you deserve it imho. I love seeing gamers get fucked with their garbage online games lol.

>>713884456
more like Gaming Jesus.

>>713883914
it's not only that. it's the only initiative since 2022 that received commentary from the EU because it amassed 1.5m votes

>>713884456
>Judas Software
I like it

>>713883691
>buy game
>devs pull the plug on servers
>can no longer play game
>money stolen

If we can make it to 750k by the same time next week I think we will make it

>>713884558
>buy game
>it says "this game requires a constant internet connection"
>buy it anyway
>be surprised when game servers get shut down
You knew what you were buying. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

>>713884502
Even if someone deserves to be taken advantage of, it doesn't mean the one doing so deserves to be rewarded for it.

>>713884598
see >>713883684

>>713884452
I remind you that steam also did jack shit to fight piracy of its games for decades. Pic related
As long as the publisher of a game does not insist on Denuvo (Which is out of steam's jurisdiction), all games you got from steam are just 1 DLL swap away from being DRM-free.

>>713884598
how about go fuck yourself and cough up the pittance it'd take for a codewagie to make it independent?

>>713884569
You're not making it lol
You could get 5 million people sign its not changing shit, you gamers will fail and it will be funny

>>713884598
>"this game requires a constant internet connection"
where does it say that the publisher doesn't have to keep the game online forever?

>>713884489
thats okay, communism and capitalism are the same thing so it doesnt change anything.
>b-but what about gay
I have bad news for anyone who made a new thread

>>713884629
I've always made sure games don't require an Internet connection before I buy. It's why I only buy games on GOG and physical games for consoles that don't require updates or Internet to work (very few at this point, but still exist).

>>713884138
Hasn't Valve said that they treat owning steam games as actual ownership, with a guarantee that if steam ever has to shut down thy would provide a window of like a year where you could download all the games you own?

>>713884691
>I've always
good for you I guess, but you're still strawmanning

>>713884671
Jeet damage control proves we are winning

>>713884674
That's the nature of the Internet. You cannot expect a service to be provided in perpetuity. Even Steam will one day shut down or be turned into something unrecognizable from what it currently is.

>>713882578
>EU is ESL
so is US

>>713884138
this campaign could SAVE steam actually.
for the first time ever, we could OWN our digital purchases instead of simply renting licenses.
the ramifications beyond gaming are immense and american corporations are terrified of this campaign becoming law.
the entire "own nothing be happy eat the bugs and live in a pod" future they are preparing for us would take a huge hit

>>713882060 (OP)
Die in a fire

>>713884598
I still have an internet connection so legally it should still be working

video games are like amusement parks, except you have to pay to get on the rides.

>>713884739
No. You bought a game that says it requires Internet. You cannot be surprised when one day it stops working. If you're too stupid to even glance at the store page or back of the box before you buy, you're the definition of "a fool and his money soon parted".

>>713882060 (OP)
I'm not signing fuck off jeet, always online games deserve to be killed.

Is the gookspammer here? I wanted to rub in that the Mod chose not to ban me despite having had another VM ready to go.

The damage control increasing means we are winning

>>713884732
>Hasn't Valve said that they treat owning steam games as actual ownership
no
you can't even transfer the ownership of your Steam account

why is south europe so fucking retardet

>>713882060 (OP)
Shame it affirms that drama has that much power.

>>713884813
TF2 also requires internet, but I know for certain I can still play it even after Valve stops their own service and shut down their servers.

>>713884813
Well, now we are working toward making more games not require an internet connection so I don't see how it's a negative for you.

>>713884813
why exactly are you bootlicking for a corpo saving pennies on rewriting some fucking code

>>713884867
>percentages
>no units
What is this supposed to represent?

Suck a cactus

>>713884867
immigrants

>>713884768
Ok, then when will this "service" cease to exist? I payed, I require an expiration date

>>713884815
if this campaign succeeds, always online games will cease existing, because you can just wait for them to shut down and get a working offline version of them

>>713884867
too busy enjoying life and picking up sluts on the beach in their med paradise than paying attention to virgin shit like vidya

>>713884912
Because the EU always fucks up every piece of legislation they write. They are a drain on the whole of the world's civilizations and I'm sick of them ruining everything.

>>713884936
My games are offline already I don't need this movement to help me.

>>713884957
Then why is their birthrate so low?

>>713884867
>Nice weather unironically.
Lower percentage of the population plays videogames as a hobby.

>>713884986
bit awkward to have a kid when you live with mama

>>713884971
Such as?

>>713884920
but germany, sweden, france and belgium have much more immigrants than italy
that map is simply an english proficiency map
greeks don't speak english and don't know this petition exists

>>713884915
I don't know
nubers

You do know that even if the petition gets enough signatures, nothing will happen, right?

>>713884434
Companies would be into always online shit with or without Steam.

>>713884983
>not my problem
lol
lmao
boomer justifying importing retards who can't speak english to clean his toilet tier reasoning

>>713884813
>You cannot be surprised when one day it stops working.
I'm still playing Rising Storm: Vietnam 2, it released on 2017 and on 2022 developer officially dropped support but released the SDKs and other tools to the public so fans can make own servers, mods, maps and other whacky stuff. People still play the game which proves games are really killed only if developers decide to pull the plug.

>>713884936
>always online games will cease existing
Oh no?
But also
>you can just wait for them to shut down
Or you can "buy" them and keep them forever

I NEED TO PLAY UBISLOP #5433 FOREVER

STOP KILLING GAMES!

>>713884504
found the furry

>>713884971
Jeet damage control

>>713885013
Not in Alabama.

>>713884915
At least 7 countries must reach a threshold and a total of 1 million signatures must be collected for the petition to be considered. Countries above 100% have exceeded their threshold.

>>713884863
That again? Who cares. You're not getting my account, pajeet.

>>713885047
It's not a petition retard

>>713884867
Those sub 100% countries are where English is less prevalent
And then there's Poland at 160% for some reason

>>713885078
i say this

>>713884971
how exactly do you fuck up telling a corpo to release the fucking server files and untie them from contacting your servers

They working overtime today

>>713885047
So there is no reason to speak against it then?

>>713885078
nice try ubishit employee
get back to work, you have hundreds of end of life patches to create, for free

>>713884138
I should own MY copy of the software and be free to do with it as I please.

>>713885047
This. All it means is it will be "answered". Very few citizens initiatives have ever gotten an answer. Most are about killing animals.
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/find-initiative_en?STATUS[0]=ANSWERED

>>713884971
And here we go. How does it feel to constantly consume Super Cancer in every meal?

>>713884813
You can still play Battlefield 1942 over the internet, it didn't stop working just because EA ceased supporting it or releasing updates. This is done on purpose to kill games. Which is why it has to stop. Something relying on the internet to be playable does not mean that the game has to depend on central servers hosted by the developer. Release server binaries or dedicated server tools and this will cease being a problem.

>>713882060 (OP)
why are us non signers getting harassed so hard? i said im not signing it on reddit and i literally got death threats

>>713885120
ross lives in poland

>>713882436
>>713882481
>>713882635
>>713882904
>>713883704
I'm an Indian and I have asked 20 of my cousins and their families in the EU to sign this petition. I have done more to save the future of gaming than anything you racists have done.

>itt: braindead amerigolem kike cattle who is so brainwashed they think having rights = communism or some shit
I guess Bill of Rights doesn't exist or something

>>713885137
Well, it's around 5 pm in india, they are doing a last burst so they don't have to work from home for failing to reach their quota.

>>713885078
>UBISLOP
The initiative would kill the slop game series because slop games are characterized by basically being slight rehashes from former titles and so people only buy newest titles because developers killed last one. If last one still lives, people wouldn't be so inclined to buy newest title.

>>713884813
I still have internet.

how can you be pro-piracy but against SKG? SKG will allow for more games to be pirated

>>713884813
>You bought a game that says it requires Internet.

No, actually, I didn't.

Halo Infinite originally launched with support for offline custom games, but then that got bugged and they never fixed it and they only announced forge would require an internet connection post launch

LETS FUCKING GO KIWIBROS!!!

>>713884452
It's actually legal to resell secondhand games in the EU, we used to have a thriving used game or game rental market here before all the faggots moved to online only DRM platforms. This was done specifically to strengthen the corporations and weaken the consumer or small businesses.

>>713885208
Kill yourself.

Malta
>Signatures/Capita - 0.17%
>20.21% of threshold
Spain
>Signatures/Capita - 0.10%
>116.46% of threshold
What was even the point of the thresholds anyway?

>>713885175
every initiative that gets the required signatures gets an answer. it is just that very few have gotten enough
(and then there is there are cases like an initiative to give shitholes more free money that got almost all of its signatures from romania and hungary and it took their governments almost 4 years to verify if those people even exist)

>>713885216
Thanks for redeeming

>>713885308
Thresholds are calculated by number of EU representatives.

>>713885246
Nametag should say maldavius or something.

I NEED TO PLAY MY EA FIFA MADDEN GARBAGE GAME FOREVER!!!!!! STOP KILLING GAMES!!!!

>>713885078
I PAYED FOR UBISLOP #5433 AND I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PLAY IT FOREVER

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO HOST SERVERS ANYMORE THEN THEY SHOULD GIVE ME A REFUND OF SELL ME AN ENTRANCE FEE, NOT AN $80 BRICK

>>713884915
Level of spiritual whiteness.

>>713882060 (OP)
this shit is useless. there is no democracy in europe slop

>>713885338
An answer just means they'll look at it. That's it. There's one about stem cells and not killing human fetuses for them and they basically just looked at it and said "lol no!"

>>713885291
I miss the second hand store I used to go to after work, picked up so many good games there

I wish SKG had been around before all those kino 7th gen mps.

Now they are all gone like tears in the rain...

>>713885386
Videogames are more important to me than human fetuses.

>>713884867
Piracy

>>713884867
We need to get Raora on the stop killing games train.

>>713884867
What the fuck is the balt problem?

>>713885175
the organizers get to meet with the EU commision, there is a public hearing in the EU parliament and then a official response where the commision has to either propose a legislation, take other measures or explain in detail why they won't do anything

>>713885461
too poor for gaming.

>>713885338
>every initiative that gets the required signatures gets an answer
except that if you look at the initiatives that got an answer, most of these answers are just the EU proposing "non-legislative follow-up actions" (which, in practice, means that the EU will do absolutely nothing)

>>713885180
I hope you understand that seed oil is not good for you.

I do enjoy my vidya es, and the consumer and privacy rights too

>>713882386
since when did maldy hire indians to shill for his cause?

I wonder if the focus on the EU initiative sucked all of the air out of the room for the UK petition.

>>713885461
High vote thresholds relative to population.

>>713882060 (OP)
What exactly is this about? Is it just about mulitplayer game servers shutting down (like Bad Company 2), games being ruined with forced un-masters like WarCraft 3 Reforged?

moist bros we are winning so hard we will btfo these spamming jeets

>>713885510
replace the up with a golf and you're spot on

>>713885386
they get a public hearing in eu parliament

>>713885507
He says while guzzling on corn syrup.

https://files.catbox.moe/5jxovl.mp4
Hi there, would you like to sign my petition?

>>713885383
this isn't about democracy, this is about bureaucracy
bureaucrats LOOOOOVE reading papers and adding rules to fit with other rules
this campaign is cleverly designed to exploit the EU obsession with legislation and regulation to create a law in our favour for once.
the thing is, legally speaking, ross is 100% in the right. consumers have been scammed and lied to, and we can and will prove it.

>>713885582
No thanks I'm not signing any petitions right now. Maybe the next campaign will have less focus on celebrities and then I'll consider signing.

>>713885506
That is fair, at least then people will have a clear answer from their governing body and will either cease, or think of other avenues of approach to the issue. That would at least be something. Right now there is no answer, no legislation, complete legal gray area swamp where a publisher can run the game for a month and then shut it down and leave you with nothing, or keep the game running for two decades and anything in between.

>>713885582
>https://files.catbox.moe/5jxovl.mp4

>>713885519
does it have a strict deadline too?

>removing threads after 400 posts
why
what the fuck is janny doing?

>>713885574
>replace the up with a golf
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here! He can afford AC in his car! LA-DI-DA!

>>713885605
kill yourself jeet

>Buy game
>Boot it 20 years later
>Still able to play it

I fail to see the controversy or why I should advocate against this when an increasing amount of games are getting HD touch-up treatment and even Wacraft 3 isn't immune to being bricked by it.

>>713885605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g31NG8OxhsU
You gotta be fucking kidding.

>>713885582
kek

>>713885659
>Boot it 20 years later

>>713885642
You stop killing games fags are WAY too obsessed over e-celebs, stop posting them and you won't get your thread removed.

>>713885659
Why would you want to play a 20 year old game?

>>713885714
such a kiddo thing to say

no one can make responsible purchases it seems

>>713882667
Do Europeans even use Twitter?

>>713885706
Anon stop cumming on your discs

>>713885706
Disc rot was a propaganda "study" used to advocate for the benefits of killing physical media, it was conducted with a batch that was faulty. I have two decade old cd's that are in pristine condition and read perfectly.

>>713885642
Probably nothing now since xey pitched a ban that didn't even stick. No gore being posted here or gook spam from a poster that Insists they don't play games and are only there to spam. I haven't gotten to gorespam without ban evading for easily the last dozen years but thanks to this I did once again.

>>713885714
gamers are like discord users
once the age is off the clock it is obsolete and you have to find something younger

>>713885706
nice mold buddy

>>713885767
This. I've got a CD from 1986 and it still plays just fine except one song that skips because of a tiny scratch caused by user error.

>>713885216
Racism, like many other things, are part of 4chan culture. Many say them only for memes. Some are serious though.

>>713885706
Just put some peanut butter and toothpaste on it and it will work

>>713885707
Shut the fuck up Moshe, you're the one who keeps spamming irrelevant bullshit and K pop artists to try and kill it.

>>713885754
Not nearly as much as Americans, most English speaking Euros hang out in smaller online groups. Reaching out would be easiest through tiktok, youtube and general word of mouth.

>>713882789
>downsides
What downsides? I love GDPR, i love how it showed everyone how shitty sites are. I also love every site who did not properly comply with it got fucked in the ass.
>site now have refuse all/reject all added instead of you having to do everything one by one
God bless the EU! There are things that the EU is not perfect at but i really do believe that they can fix this gaming GaaS/always online sinlgeplayer games bullshit.

>>713885767
>>713885706
disc rot is real on burned media on DVDs
blurays and factory disks and dvds are immune

>>713885706
All my cds from the 90s work just fine. Take care of your stuff retard.

eventually q day will come along, encryption will be dead, and you'll just be able to raid their servers for whatever files you want at will

>>713885874
>I also love every site who did not properly comply with it got fucked in the ass
>block all EU IPs from connecting
>go on with life
It was that easy.

>>713885767
Every single legit PlayStation game I have looks and plays brand new. The only ones with rot were all the burned games using drug store CDs I had to throw them all out couple years ago

>>713885707
Thread was dogshit and in a downward spiral. Gookspammer got offended and broke character for a bit when I posted gore and they seem to have been sent off to bed so they aren't in this one.

Remember that what's already burned into your head a thousand times over is their first time seeing it and while they can control how they react to your words they can't control the fact whatever image you posted will burn itself into their brain in a fraction of a second they have no control over. It used to be a duty to expose these yard-shitters to the violent shit you have and one done without consequence.

>>713882789
GDPR was a massive success for everyone in EU. What the fuck are you talking about you brown jeet?

>>713885891
Nah, I have burned CD's and DVD's that are just as old and work just fine. I can grab my Bloodrayne 1 burn right now and install it. Disc rot is not real, unless you store your cd's in atrocious conditions and I do mean atrocious, like 80% humidity or something. Just keep them in a dry place, enclosed in a box and they will be fine forever.

>>713882060 (OP)
The movement got an extremely hate-able villain.

>>713885216
Based shitskin

>>713885754
in my experience most of our zoomers either use instagram or tik tok

>>713885630
It's sooner, even. 14 July 2025.

>there's an unironic shilling campaign going on rn against the ownership of games and the only thing shills can say is calling you a commie when you question why this petition is bad
>unironic corporate leeches taking time off (unpaid) to take my vidya
keep going retards, you can't beat a bunch of neets and never will

>>713885980
dont leave them out in the sun, the vector of the rot is photons

>>713885962
Based and ritualpilled. You’re absolutely right-those screeching threadshitters scream to "ignore and move on" but they forget that imageboards used to be about confrontation, about searing the reality they try to outrun into their eyeballs. You make them remember. You make them feel. And once it's burned in, no janny or ban can undo it. Keep up the good work, psycho-knight.

>>713882060 (OP)
if there's one thing I can have in this world let it be this initiative getting one mil signatures

>>713884971
Explain, inferior being.
This planet would be lost already without EU.

EU forced USB-C, and also the possibility of removing batteries from phones.
Also, Nintendo cannot brick his consoles (only for europeans), but only block the accounts.

You are just a crab that is feeling envy.

>>713886095
This. My mom left all my PS1 and 2 games on the back deck when I was away at college. Came back and they were all rotted. Sunlight and rain destroyed them all, who'd have thunk it?

>>713884138
I shop only from GOG.

>>713886178
>on the back deck
Why the fuck would she do that?

>>713884598
>still have internet connection
>game doesn't work
hmm

>>713886235
Because my parents live in a double wide trailer and needed to make room.

>>713886235
Woman

>>713885579
wow, they will be able to speak in front of an empty parliament, amazing.

>>713885754
Lol no we hate musk and trump far too much. Our Boomers use facebook, millenials have whatsapp groups and zoomies use tiktok and instagram

>>713886178
that only happens if they are backups you moron

>>713886151
I just hope my efforts and working examples inspire others with thick skin to take up the double edged sword of actual babby's first psychological warfare and start swinging it with reckless abandon because overuse can be fixed but you can't fix spineless underuse. Make the people here to ruin the fun of being here unable to forget doing it for the rest of their lives while it's a drop in the bucket to 'real' anons.

>>713886310
>that only happens if they are backups you moron
Uh, then why did they get ruined? They were legit copies.

>>713885216
based

>>713886354
user error.

>>713886181
I shop only from other people's GOG purchases

>>713885510
Replace the console controlled with mouse and keyboard for Eastern Europe. Nobody buys consoles here.

>>713886169
>also the possibility of removing batteries from phones.
chat is this real
i was a phone repair monkey for a bit and all the batteries were still glued in and had to be scraped out in a way that totally destroyed them, i don't really keep up with phones at all since i'm a pc repair guy and the phone shit was just as a favor, and this was up to like 2 months ago

>>713883646
>australia
valve just paid a 3 million $ fine to australia.
valve had ALREADY allowed refunds a year prior to that because of a new EU consumer rights directive in 2014. in 2015 valve allowed for refunds. in the very end of 2016 valve lost the australian lawsuit
it was eu law that caused the change in refund policy

>>713886265
Needed to make room? She absolutely needed a microwave's footprint worth of space ? Double wide is no excuse that's plenty big just sounds like hoarding problems

>>713885953
>yahoo Japan
LOL the fuck is that meme?

>>713886412
>i was a phone repair monkey for a bit and all the batteries were still glued in and had to be scraped out in a way that totally destroyed them
You were terrible at your job then. Glued in batteries just require a bit of heat to remove.

>>713884867
Any anons in Luxembourg?

>>713886489
The Japanese LOVE Yahoo. It was the last nation on Earth to still have Geocities too.

>>713886295
IT is not just hearing. They need to address it. That how it works.

>>713886489
Japan still uses and loves yahoo for some reason

>>713886489
Yahoo is actually a pretty big deal in Japan, it's one of their biggest domestic online auction platform, their form of Ebay.

>>713886627
my dad still uses his old yahoo for his email

>>713882060 (OP)
>signatures today 13k
Still not enough.

>>713886495
nah no shot, even if you're comfortable with heating the batteries (i'd never do it) they're still soft and the process of scraping them out (you still need to scrape heated glue) bends the batteries in such a way that they aren't safe to re-use
if you actually work in the industry i'll defer to you on this, since i was never trained and just told to figure it out, but i don't see how it is, and also i wouldn't say it's something users can do which is what anon was saying sounded like

>>713886676
You need to apply the heat gun to the contact areas where the glue is located to melt it so you can get the battery out without bending or damaging it. But if it weren't for the EU regulations, the batteries would be non removable period and instead built in dead shut into the phones.

>>713886660
Nothing wrong with that. I have an old optimum email I made when I was 10 that I still use because the cable k*kes absolutely refuse to give me a new one

>>713886295
>pic
>ECI public hearing
>in late 2020
ofcourse it is empty. almost everyone participated remotely due to corona lockdowns

I signed because I want to see pirate kill himself

>>713885605
>Ross avoids anything to with ecelebs or drama farming
>Barely gets passed 40%
>Every single eceleb starts putting Thor on blast in the past few days
>Petition blows past 60%
The duality of man.

>>713882060 (OP)
Still too little, too late, don't gloat before we get beyond the line

>>713886672
It goes fine right now. But another big youtuber would likely be needed to get us over 1M. We end today betwen 25-30k

>>713885216
you're still a jeet, but based jeet nonetheless

>>713882060 (OP)
If pewdiepie covers it, then it is assured conquest else it is doubtful.

>>713885216
At border control, you will be one of the few allowed to enter.

>>713886878
I'll said it once and I'll say it again. Eurofuckers are the flakiest people on the planet. We're fucking DOOMED if we have to rely on them.

>>713886878
Here's why I'm saying it's not wnough. We need 12k signatures daily. The current pace is barely above that and will definitely slow down in the future, just as it did the first time. That's why we need to accelerate.

>>713882060 (OP)
Because fuck that guy.

VIDEO GAMES MUST DIE

>>713886758
idk, maybe i mostly only worked on phones pre to that legislation, because the phones i worked on had the entire battery pack glued (samsung phones being especially shit for this where the whole backend would be glued to plastic wrap)
i was thinking legislation that mandated like old motorola/samsung phones or psp batteries where it's actually designed where the cover and battery can just be pulled and swapped by hand

>>713884254
Isn't GOG struggling more every year? The keep reporting losses and layoffs. Normies don't like GOG because they either don't understand the issue or prioritize social aspects over it (being on THE popular gaymer platform that all their friends use). And the tech savvy people who do care are more likely to just pirate or exploit GOG through refunds and file sharing.
You cannot trust people to vote with their wallets, rights over digital products need to be put into legislation.

>>713885216
You aight, might give you a pass to shit on my sidewalk

>>713886997
Since the event 4 days ago, we did get 159,779 signatures. It slowed down a bit yesterday. dropping to 33,057. But it still has momentum. It will likely stay at least a week in the range of 12,000-15,000. signatures. Enough time to push some campaign or some other youtuber to propagate it. Louis Rossmann could do another video, and so could others. If there is a narrative that we are getting close and every signature counts, even people who are lazy and thought it was a lost cause could spend 2 minutes of their lives to sign it.

>>713886957
>If pewdiepie covers it
Why is that faggot not covering it? Someone contact other youtubers in Japan to make him cover it.

>>713886878
we genuinely need to get non english youtubers to talk more about this, get those French people for example.

>>713882060 (OP)
I hope it fails. G*mers deserve nothing but suffering.

>>713887292
>Why is that faggot not covering it?
because he doesn't care, he doesn't even like video games

>>713882060 (OP)
Devs and their acolytes surely are panicking with all these threads and rising numbers. This would only apply to EU only anyway so why do you even care if it only affects - since for you it's a bad thing - europoors and esl? Just pay up as you usually do for a year and buy next product the following year. Easy. :)

>>713887396
>This would only apply to EU only anyway
At first.

>be game company
>sign contract with different company where they will provide all online infrastructure, matchmaking logic, testing servers and so on
>we end up sunsetting our game
>all the functionality that made it possible for players to play with each other online has never belonged to us, we literally don't even know how it works or have any prototypes to hand over to the community
Pirate was right.

Imagine if that fucking Ross retard dropped that video like 1 or 2 months ago, or kept feeding the drama and shitting on Jason, it would've definitely reached the goal instead of scurrying for last second.

>B-B-B-BUT HE'S ABOVE IT
Don't care it would've been the pragmatic approach.

@713887452
>online infrastructure, matchmaking logic, testing servers and so on
Wow, the weeblet is retarded, what a surprise.

>>713886978
Europeans don't play live service games. They don't give a shit. They'll keep playing HoMM3 until the heat death of the universe, it doesn't matter to them if your Gacha girls disappear

>>713887459
nah, combining the drama with the "end of SKG" final push was probably best

>>713887396
>Devs and their acolytes surely are panicking with all these threads and rising numbers.
depends on devs, people in charge of live service games are absolutely in full panic mode, but smaller devs just making traditional games are perfectly fine with it
>This would only apply to EU only anyway
which is a huge gaming market and no devs are gonna bother making different versions of their digital games for America and EU so it will be effectively enforced everywhere, same with basically every product that gets hit by EU regulations.

>>713887434
But Europe is insignificant and is no position to dictate laws of this magnitude to the rest of the world especially bigger markets such as USA, Japan or China. If you hate that Europeans will be able to play ad-infinitum just don't boot your game past X years to simulate the servers being taken out of order and buy its sequel. Again, easy :)

>>713882060 (OP)
The universe is doing everything in its power to punk Jason Hall

>>713885120
>then there's Poland at 160% for some reason
They have a big presence is the gaming industry at every level. Indies, AA, AAA, they're there. You probably played a game or two from there without even knowing.

>>713887396
>This would only apply to EU only anyway
You mean like how Steam refunds only apply for the EU? Wait...

>>713887452
What is your handicap? Just include EoL in the contract with that other company.

>>713887517
Concession accepted. You're all living in the past where you could cobble together a centralized solution and have no idea how anything works in the real world.

>>713887452
Doesn't matter. Such arrangements will have new clauses to account for an end of life patch.
It will be known at the beginning of the development so it's going to be easy.

>>713887569
It's not about eu doing jack shit in USA, it's about burgeroids seeing it and going "we want this for ourselves"

>>713887459
I think the time pressure with the drama helped. There could be more talks about it but it was likely good idea to keep the drama. for a final push.

>>713884138
methinks consoles did it before steam did

@713887631
>You're all living in the past where you could cobble together a centralized solution and have no idea how anything works in the real world.
@grok explain to weeb what private servers are

>>713882789
What possible downsides are there to SKG?

>>713887647
so it's the classic fox and the grapes lmao. maybe they should do their own initiative then since they are the children of the revolutionaries who toppled the brits instead of being jealous. God gives it to you but it doesn't put it in your bag.

>>713887710
meant for >>713887631

>>713884867
because they have pretty small gaming culture, theres not many studios from there meanwhile theres tons of them in the northern parts which also have strong gaming cultures, probably because their winters are so long so they end up being stuck inside for longer.
Italy and Greece and their surrounding neighbors have also historically been very vary or outright hostile towards the EU and its regulations so they're not gonna be thrilled to sign anything from it.

But man if Norway was in the EU we probably would be sitting at 800k signed right now

>>713887715
>What possible downsides are there to SKG?
Videgame publisher CEOs might start commiting suicide.

>>713887715
less CoD releases

>>713887715
EA death.

>>713887773
i don't think anyone is necking themselves over having to pay one guy a week's wages more

>>713882386
you sound like a virgin hall monitor who gets off demanding to see people's hall passes
embarrassing

>>713887715
No more Concord and Marathon games.

>>713882635
>american is the only country that matter
Buenos dias, cabrone

>>713886151
Hi ChatGPT

>>713887452
NOT MY PROBLEM RETARD
MAKE BETTER GAMES THAT CAN BE RUN ON MY PC

>>713887569
>EU is significant
these retarded AAAA money hungry companies do braindead changes to squeeze out 1% more money, they will comply with whatever EU forces them to do because number must go up

>>713887715
concord gets to live forever

>>713887773
he said downsides

>>713882060 (OP)
Do you think he'll do a 180 and go like
>Yeah actually I did all of this to put more eyes in the movement I'm not actually retarded please love me

>>713887062
VIDEO GAMES MUST DIE*
*by the hands of CEO and stake holders to keep the fomo for new releases going

>>713887715
Publishers won't be able to steal from consumers any more, which will reduce their profits marginally.
This it might be the straw that breaks the camel's back and sends the industry into a 1980s style recession.

>>713887715
Hyenas releases as a single player shooter with hot anthro hyenas.

>>713887959
He will never apologize or admit fault, ever

>>713887959
Yes, if it succeeds he will find a way to claim credit

>>713887959
no, he is never ever gonna change his stance, he is just gonna start ignoring this and try and bury it with his tweets about ferrets while banning and blocking anyone that asks him about it, he is probably gonna delete his tweets and videos about it sooner or later so back them up.

>>713884192
Seriously what the fuck does this have to do with communism?
Actually better question when did communism get co-opted by corpo shills and how the hell did it even happen in the first place?
Like was it all because of OWS or what?

>>713887959
>I was just pretending to be retarded
I'm 100% sure he's going to pull this stunt

>>713886412
The phones with the embedded batteries are still around because they were sold not too much long ago.

>>713886495
I don't know if they were simply glued or soldered, because the final purpose was not letting the repair, to force you to buy another phone.

This is so disguisting. Forcing us to waste money, and at the same time wasting resources, only for their greed.

But after all, humans are like this, always thinking to money. See the worst inventor of history, Thomas Midgley.
He caused the lead poisoning for the planet, decreasing the IQ worldwide and increasing the violence (due to the brain damage).
His workers were diagnosed with extreme alcoholism (due to lead poisoning), and sent into asylums for elettroshock.
Thomas knew everything, but he even smelled the fuel he made, to demonstrate it was safe.
Later he even made a gas which caused the ozone hole we still have this day. At least this time he didn't knew it wasn't safe, but it's tragicomic he is still the one that made a catastrophe that it was stopped in time with a law.

>>713883636
>what exactly would stop fanservers from monetizing shit?
IP laws still apply.

>>713884138
>license
>The short answer is this is a large legal grey area, depending on the country. In the United States, this is generally the case. In other countries, the law is not clear at all since license agreements cannot override national laws. Those laws often consider videogames as goods, which have many consumer protections that apply to them. So despite what the license agreement may say, in some countries you are indeed sold your copy of the game license.

>>713884145
Reminder that anyone calling this communism (eg >>713884192) is an american corporate shill.
Their propaganda machine called any pro-consumer regulation "communist" in order to completely destroy the middle class and make it possible to accumulate wealth in the top 0.1%. Which is actually exactly what communism is, a ruling party of 0.1% which has all the wealth and power and then chooses how to distribute tiny chunks of it to the poor.

>>713884813
>says it requires Internet
"Requires internet" is an ambiguous statement.
1. It does not specify that the entire game will be bricked without internet. Some games require internet only for some scoreboards, or for matchmaking. Historically these games are playable via lan or split-screen, which is what most people would assume to be the case.
2. A game that can be played via LAN also technically "requires internet".
3. People might assume that the internet requirement is just for content updates.
etc.

>>713884867
Poland confirmed Nordic!

>>713884192
>gommunism is when you actually own the thing you paid for
You are very smart, you should write a book.

lets not lose the plot here, dunking on piratesoftware is really funny but we need to keep the momentum up to get to the finish line, which includes getting non english speaking euros to cover this in detail.

>>713887959
No, he'll do some doomposting how "let's hope this doesn't kill the industry with too heavy-handed sanctions like I tried to warn everyone about", and then when the bill is drafted he'll go "see, thanks to my concern trolling we reached a middle ground that makes both gamers and developers happy".

>>713887452
This sort of situation will come up during the phase where the law's language is decided on (if a law happens), and there will be things to account for it, almost assuredly

It is far, far more likely that lawmakers water shit down to appease corporations and give them an out, then it is for a law to pass that is overly onerous on them

>>713887715
Might affect the salary of people like Bobby Kotick, Cliff bleszinski, Randy pitchfork ever so slightly.

>>713887715
Government oversight of game development. Increased cost of development because of lawyers and bureaucracy when you have to prove compliance.
In short: enjoy your CoDs and Dustborns! Because that’s all you’re gonna get if SKG passes. Hope they call it the Ross Scott act so you all know who to thank

>>713888268
Let's see how YOU would enjoy living on $990k/month instead of a million, asshole.

>>713884192
>capitalism is when turbojews are protected by the law
fuck off faggot
lynching degenerates is a millennia long white tradition

>pirate software wants to kill the movement (which was already dead by this point)
>actually ends up saving the movement thanks to his big mouth
>tons of people are voting at lightning speed because of how insufferable of a person pirate software is with his braindead takes
>pirate software will end up being the reason video games are saved
COULD IT BE?
is he secretly on our side bros?
is he our jew? or just a stupid puppet?

>>713884403
Same thing.

>>713887452
>negotiate for an EOL agreement with the company during the opening stages of game development
>problem solved

>>713888063
of course
he decided to become a martyr by willingly and intentionally becoming a target of hate in order to unify people behind one goal which is to oppose him and sign the initiative

>>713888318
no, he is just really stupid and unlikable

>>713888318
>he looked up guides to all those puzzles as a 4d chess move
my knees... I'm genuflecting on my own...

Based, let's make more regulations so any project becomes burdened with nonsensical byzantine requirements and no company ever makes a videogame again because some crusty oldtroon incels want to play the bing bing wahoos of their formative years forever.

the only advantage for publishers is that they can finally admit they make F2P/pay-to-win games and push microtransactions, stat boosts and loot boxes with impunity.

>>713888304
>Government oversight of game development
Incorrect. Game publishing.
>Increased cost of development because of lawyers and bureaucracy when you have to prove compliance.
You don't have to prove compliance. Be compliant and it won't be called into question.
>In short: enjoy your CoDs and Dustborns! Because that’s all you’re gonna get if SKG passes. Hope they call it the Ross Scott act so you all know who to thank
I'm also gonna enjoy my Rust, my Conan Exiles, my Half Life, my Team Fortress, my Diablo 2, my Warcraft 3, my Dawn of War: Soulstorm Unification mod, my Sea Dogs and my WoW private servers.

>>713887959
Even if it gets one million signatures the chance that this creates new law that forces software companies to do what SKG wants is really low. Either it doesn't hit one million or the politicians do nothing about it and then piratesoftware will make a smug "I told you so" comment.

>>713888318
No, he's been a loser forever, even 2 decades ago he would get raided on Second Life by Patriotric Nigras from /b/ because he was an exceptionally insufferable furry among hundreds of insufferable furries

>>713888542
>Patriotric Nigras
That sounds hilarious. Wakanada nationalists vs furfags?

>>713884867
The more south you go, the less people speak English and spend time on English-centric media.

>>713885659
So, here's the reality of the situation:
There was a study done which made it clear that the average "age" of a video game people are playing is somewhere between 7 and 10 years.
This, to publishers, means that they're not only competing with current games but also their old titles. Which they see as a loss of profit.
For example, there's at least 100k people still playing Diablo 2 (combined across the original and remaster). Publishers believe that this is 100k-200k less players playing Diablo 4, which is a loss of at least 5-10 million USD. Which is why, in this case, Blizzard has released Diablo 4 with always-online DRM and mostly server-side game logic. This way when they end the game's servers, their customers will be "forced" to buy Diablo 5 or Diablo 6.

>>713888119
>Seriously what the fuck does this have to do with communism?
Nothing. It's just a strategy the corporations employ to shut down anything consumer friendly. They are able to do that because of the societal pressure against communism that was embedded into the public during the Mccarthy era.
The funny thing is that they've used the commie boogeyman to train the consumers to always lose, while letting actual communists co-opt their universities for 5 decades and eventually half of their government.

>>713888268
What is Cliffy B up to these days anyway?

>>713887715
For corporate
>discontinued old games will have playable versions always available, pressuring publishers compete with their own old product
I don't see problem there since they'll just need to release better games!

>>713888268
Come now, anon, it's never the bigwigs that feel the pinch

>>713888728
The reality is that people playing Diablo 2 are never going to play Diablo 4 and if access to Diablo 2 were to be destroyed or restricted in order to make them play Diablo 4, they simply would have gone on to play a different game that is most like Diablo 2. The concept of a lost sale is a fucking delusion.

>>713888443
this would've never happened if the industry had some restraint and common sense and didn't start killing off their games.

I don't even really remember what this was about. It's still going on? wasn't this from like a year ago now? I haven't heard about it in a long while
Iirc it's a EU only thing though so I don't have to care. I hope your petition goes though tho

Europeans are brown

>>713888482
There is no advantage for videogame publishers if this passes since that would wake up EU gamers to the power they have. What is stopping EU gamers from starting more European Citizen initiatives and dabbing on microtransactions for example? Dabbing on DRM? I am pretty sure that there are a ton of paid shills all over the internet currently trying to make sure that this never passes.

>>713885767
Same, actually. All of my discs are still 100% functional. Be it original PS1 discs or the cheap consumer discs where I "burned" video games, music, data, etc.

>>713885891
Nah dude. Most of my discs are burned media and they all work completely fine.
They only "rot" if they're used too much. But mine are just sitting in a closet and I use them maybe once every 2 years. I do have digital backups too, but the physical ones are still working.

>>713888831
I agree with you completely, but that's the justification they use internally and to their shareholders.

>>713888728
>Publishers believe that this is 100k-200k less players playing Diablo 4, which is a loss of at least 5-10 million USD.
Lmao holy projected profits these people really think video games are fungible.

>>713888870
Yeah, it's still going on, there's been a big jump in activity right on the verge of the deadline, the whole thing was about not letting companies make games with killswitches in them that they can shut down remotely to take your money and leave you with nothing. And thanks man, all the best to you.

>>713888870
>I don't even really remember what this was about

It's an intitiative that, if it gets enough signatures, EU (and UK, there's a petition for them too) lawmakers will have to examine the issue of legislation to ensure consumers can still access their games even after the official servers are taken down

> so I don't have to care.

You should still spread the word about it to people you know in the EU or UK, or to people you know who might in turn know people in those countries, etc

>>713882978
It's better that Ross waited to do it, because this wouldn't have stuck nearly as hard if Maldavius's reputation hadn't already been tanked by the Dire Maul shit.

>>713882495
Says the lemming bootlicking corpos

>>713888901
My skin is whiter than you.

>>713888905
European Citizens Initiative to ban gambling from videogames(lootboxes)? I'd sign that up.

>>713887314
This

>>713888901
Post hand perchance?

>>713888318
indeed
that is why he became the "director of strategy" for a new games publisher (offbrand games) last year. to fix publisher business
5d chess

>>713884192
reddit did everything they could to stop discussions and threads about it though.
Why are you lying about this? Very curious, what is this glowing I see?!

>>713888920
>mogo52
How many have you got in total?

>>713888193
>all because of the deluge

>>713889193
They just can't help it but be fucking obvious.

>>713889084
>than you
It aught to be "than yours", ESL yuro barbarian.

>>713882564
i wish i lived in the uk to support this instead of stinking america so i could help this.

This will crash and burn and I will make daily threads mocking you bitches

>>713888443
Old videogames easily passed this requirement. Allowing dedicated server hosting for these games that aren't mmos fixes this easily. Something like overwatch is match based and only needs a big central server doing other stuff because blizzard likes money. Or if you make f2p live service shit then you never had to worry in the first place as this doesn't apply really. Or charge a sub fee so "service" is clearly something being paid for and has an end date.

MMOs would be more tricky due to their nature.

>>713889280
UK isn't in Europe any more.

>>713888527
I'd rather blame politicians for doing nothing than citizens for failing to push the petition past the threshold. Between a small chance of something happening and the certainty of nothing, I'll pick the former.

>>713889370
There's a UK initiative as well.
They will probably answer with nonsense a third time but oh well, may as well try.

Why do people sign petitions? They don’t do anything. It’s the most nothingburger of protests and boil down to virtue signaling. Maybe people should stop buying/playing said games from the guilty studios? But they dont do that lol. Because that actually effects them (or they perceive it as so).

>>713889353
cope indian and start working on server implementation for home PCs

>>713888920
Wait isn't this Fuwawa

>>713888775
Not anything good is what I would bet my money on.

>>713889510
Thor warned you. But you faggots didn't listen.

>>713889503
>Why do people sign petitions? They don’t do anything.
Not sure if bait or american

>>713889503
>Why do people sign petitions?
This is not a petition. This is a European Citizens Initiative. You need European voter ID to participate.

>>713889370
Whoa. I guess the Britannia Archipelago moved further into the Atlantic when we weren't looking?

>>713889584
american is the leader of this movement

>>713889503
If they don't do anything, why oppose them?

>>713883986
This is the average /v/tard. This is everything that is wrong with 4chan.

>>713889580
But I want for this practice to die.

>>713889618
Yes, now they're just pointlessly drifting.

>>713889503
>They don’t do anything
True of 99% of them but this one in particular is one that produces legal effects once the threshold is reached: the European Commission will actually have to debate its contents.

>>713884138
They should change the terminology. Buying a license? It should be called RENTING.

>>713882060 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblBt9XzWoo
actual ex-blizzard dev supports SKG
piratesoftware utterly and eternally BTFO

>>713882060 (OP)
The Yuro's burden. It's up to them to carry civilization forward AGAIN

>>713885180
>No corn syrup in the oats
You disappoint me, yanks

>>713889676
>European Commission will actually have to debate its contents
debate /= implementation

>>713889725
>implying they would actually reach the goal
It's impossible. They don't care about the world. All they care is their little sinkhole.

>>713882060 (OP)
GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>713889719
Is there anyone in this industry who is not an "ex blizzard dev" at this point?

>>713882269
You lost Maldaviuspooner

>>713889815
piratesoftware

>>713889751
You can always add some HFCS later.

Honestly I don't care if any games get saved. I just want devs to be inconvenienced and if this kills indie games then even better.

>>713889809
Sauce

>>713889795
>All they care is their little sinkhole.
Good, that's the way forward, if everyone cared about their own little sinkhole.

I hate the EU
I hate gamers
I hope you all seethe

>>713888728
Link the study then

>>713889013
I guess I could tell my uncle
Or wait Norway isn't actually part of the EU right? Their whole situation is complicated

>>713885582
Good shit.

>>713889793
It's actually even less than that, they just have to acknowledge that the initiative was put forward and reached the required amount of votes.
The European commission isn't legally required to do literally anything about it beyond stating that they know about the initiative and aren't willing to take any action because it is either outside of their responsibility or they simply didn't feel like doing so today.

>>713889793
>they may end up rejecting the initiative
>that means I should give up on it altogether
The very fact that it's going to be brought into public discourse is a major step forward that keeps the doors open.

>>713889013
>lawmakers will have to examine the issue of legislation to ensure consumers can still access their games even after the official servers are taken down
I guarantee if it actually hits the quota they're just going to go
>okay, we have this one about stopping killing video games?
>apparently servers are shut down and games are unplayable
>are the games damaged? No
>then what's the issue? Closing a server is like closing a shop no? The owner has the right to use their creation as they please.
>dismissed.

>>713885572
When Moist man meets Mold man you get an explosion of spores in a rich breeding environment
It just makes sense

>>713885581
corn syrup is in EU food under a different name.

>>713882060 (OP)
>percentage to goal 60
I feel like the writer made a mistake and meant to say "remaining percentage to goal" because percentage to goal is literally 40

>>713889878
Nationalism is bad.

>>713889874
Akebi chan no serafuku. And it's just one scene, the anime is slice of life.

You know, looking at this petition I've learned one very important thing. All the flags in the EU kind of suck. They're almost all just three horizontal or vertical stripes. Only Greece and Portugal look good and unique.

>>713890061
The initiatives have to be pre-approved to even show up on the website. The fact that they appear there is in fact a legal acknowledgment that the scope falls within their jurisdiction.

>>713890149
The organisers of the initiative will actually be granted an audience to make their point, so that misrepresentation such as this one can't happen.

>>713890134
If you really wanted to take a step forward you would have started a campaign informing people about DRM and what I can do and to tell people to not buy games with aggressive DRM.

But no, you gave up and tried to get unnecessary government intervention that won't help because the initiative is so poorly thought out.

>There are slav states getting closer to their threshold values (I know it doesn't matter) than Italy
Slav jank for the win?

>>713890134
If anything further discussion would permanently torpedo any chances of the proposed ideas going through
EU commission wasn't willing to directly regulate video games when it was about developers advertising gambling to children, you really think they're gonna suddenly do so for ensuring live-service games remain playable till the end of time?

>>713890231
Never is and never will be. It is the ultimate reflection of human nature and group preference and nothing you can do about it.

>>713882060 (OP)
pirate software lost his audience, otherwise he'd shut it down again.
i find it retarded that a wow raid is what turned everyone against him, but whatever works works i guess.

>>713890248
Bring back heraldry!

>>713890339
>their threshold values (I know it doesn't matter) than Italy
Slavs speak more English than we retards unfortunately.

>>713887452
sign a different contract next time asswipe

>>713889929
I think this is the reference https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/the-most-popular-games-from-last-year-were-over-7-years-old
it's a study by newzoo apparently

>>713890326
Read the FAQ, they don't know what they're fucking talking about and treat "goods" as one giant category with one set of regulations.

>>713884015
It's okay to use ferrets as your flesh light and claim its a ferret rescue

>>713890248
A flag is supposed to be easy to identify and easy to reproduce. If you want fancy shit, you have coats of arms for that.

>>713882582
in all edrama, the more popular eceleb is the one whose right, because that shit is just a popularity contest. a year ago the edrama would have ended with most people going, well i like pirate software more so i agree with his side.

>>713890248
Don't say that to flag autists, they think European flags are peak and want every flag to look like that. Except if it's a "cultural" expression, then it's fair game.
>t.flag autist who doesn't like "the rules"

>>713890343
Lol, the gambling shit was left to the individual nations, it wasn't a citizen's initiative. And Belgium still banned them. The boomers in the EU government may hate young people, but they hate Americans more, and in their mind, big tech = america.

>>713882707
>Spite
More like parasocial relationships.

>Search around for Italian tubers to try and talk to
>Eventually stumble on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaXuMC_GHEE
You pasta niggers are alright.

>>713887845
>he doesn't know
preservationists are already on it.
i WILL see every shitty game ever made fully preserved for posterity to laugh at.

>>713890248
Cyprus' flag is just Cyprus. Which feels a little like labeling your label maker.

>>713890529
>somehow concord has returned

>>713890523
I remember when Caparezza was good.
Try Yotobigames or his streaming buddy IlGattoSulTubo, they both speak English but if you need me to translate the emails I can at least double check MTL

>>713890421
Nah a flag is also supposed to spark national pride. No one is proud of stripes.

>>713889620
He doesn't have a Polish citizenship so technically he isn't. The initiative was submitted by someone else and they will be the ones to talk to the EU commission directly, not Ross.

>>713890529
Sony's gonna FREAK

>>713890553
When it was drafted it was meant to be a neutral flag avoiding both Greek and Turkish insignia. But now it's a symbol of the whole island belonging to the country, thus opposition to Turkish separatism in the North.

>>713890616
I was more compiling a list and posting it for italian-anons to get in touch with and those two were already on it, but if there is an anon who is better at writing, your suggestion of double checking the italian would be appreciated.

>>713882386
SKG-sisters... We lost...

>>713890725
I already did my rounds at the start by sending 4-5 emails but we had NO coverage then. Now it's far more likely they'd cover it.

>>713890685
Shame, I was looking forward to Ross feeding all the corrupt eu politicians to his mold creatures.

>>713890665
Tell that to the gays.

>>713887845
Sony refunded everyone when the memoryholed Concord which is more than most devs do when shutting down their games

>>713890770
Let's be honest here, Ross going on tangents as he usually does probably would've have been good. Would be as he described Armed and Delirious "melting your brain with crazy waves".

>>713885078
Excuse me but Ubislop #5433 contains my hyper specific fetish and without it I will not be happy enough to maintain a github repo that every telcom on earth requires to function.

>>713890553
>labeling your label maker
it is very descriptive and sometimes that is all you need. ie. french sudan just took the french flag and added a nigger in it

>>713890665
>No one is proud of stripes
And yet Burgers can't stop putting up their flag everywhere.

>>713890858
Yeah. Because they would've been crucified otherwise. Not even their propaganda force can spin something that egregious.

>>713890665
No, the anon you are replying to is correct. You misunderstand the fundamental amd historical aspects of flag design and aesthetics. An interesting topic, actually -- look into it!

>>713890685
Ross isn't the leader but someone you can't name is? Euros will really sink that low and take credit from Ross and all the work he did. Shameful.

>we must give up because even if we get 1 mil signatures it's not guaranteed to succeed
Mindset like that is why you faggots are all doom and gloom on 4chan instead of being at least somewhat happy in your lives.
Why do some people listen to that dumbfuck concern troll Jason? Once in a blue fucking moon we get a good faith effort to make things better and a guy like Ross who does it because he just really likes vidya and not for money, yet people still somehow manage to go all doomer shit on it.
Have some faith! Even if it fails the cause is noble enough to have been worth the effort.

lets say they reach 100% what happen next?

>>713890921
That's stars AND stripes, thank you.

>>713890326
>so that misrepresentation such as this one can't happen.
That's.... Not a misinterpretation. That's just reality.

>>713885160
>tfw I'm a Ubisoft employee and signed this

>>713885180
something i've heard is that in europe the nutrition labels just aren't as strict as the FDA regulations, so you can sell the same exact product, but list less ingredients.

>>713891023
Everyone gets a lot more annoying.

>>713891023
PirateSoftware gets penetrated by a giant mushroom

>>713891023
That one furry guy ropes on stream and the mold bloke instantly becomes EU president

>>713891023
ferretfag does a 180 and claims to be a martyr and then subsequently whine about it harming his games publisher business he joined last year

>>713887981

I said downsides.

>>713891078
that is eu regulation. each individual country can still have their own, stricter, laws about it

>>713891023
EU makes a wishy-washy decision that leaves neither side truly happy.

>>713891108
He will just laugh when EU politicians dismiss the petition in their little debate. Piratesoftware always wins in the end.

>>713891078
>something i've heard is that in europe the nutrition labels just aren't as strict as the FDA regulations, so you can sell the same exact product, but list less ingredients.
Anon... Europe isn't a federation, the states themselves already have stringent labeling and sourcing laws for food, the EU acts as an added layer of security, and the image you posted literally states in 2017 it adapted the same standards of stringency as the US.

>>713891023
EU commission has around 9 months to respond. Then they gather the representatives of the initiative, lawmakers, representatives of the opposition (Ubisoft, etc.) and discuss what the most ideal solution would be for the consumer without outright destroying the industry. These discussions would likely last 1-3 years.
After that they'll probably decide on how to handle these games and give a grace period of another 2 years for game publishers/devs to release any in-dev games so that they're unaffected by these regulations.
After that, any future game would have to comply to regulations they put in place.

Alternatively, they might just decide that they don't want to regulate anything regarding this practice, at which point gamers will at least have some closure and the law will no longer be a gigantic gray area.

>>713884598
>get book
>can still read book 20 years later
>get movie
>movie still plays 20 years later
>get game
>20 years later can't play the game anymore
something doesn't add up

>>713891023
Ubisoft's CEO commits suicide on live stream.

>>713891234
He's a lolcow now bro. He already lost.

>>713891223
I mean even something as much as forcing publishers to include an expiration date for the game on the store page would be better than what we have.

>>713891223
Still better than nothing.

>>713884598
Well I have internet, so why is the game not working?

>>713889719
https://www.mobygames.com/person/20708/david-kristofer-fried/credits/ Seems legit.

>>713890770
He might get invited during the consultation stage that happens later.

>>713891000
I know you're shitposting but I simply couldn't be arsed to look them up for a quick 4chin post sent on my phone. Daniel Ondruska and Aleksej Vjalicin are listed as the organizers on the initiative page.

>>713891308
Well, anon. Do I have some bad old news for you.
>Sony’s PlayStation Store shut down movie purchases in 2021, then removed access to some “purchased” titles in 2022 for certain regions, without refunds or downloads allowed.

This is actually the main reason why the initiative is exclusively going after video games. Because otherwise they'd have to fight against the movie and music industry, which are almost entirely all degenerate companies.

>>713891308
technically thanks to streaming you couldn't do that with movies if it weren't for piracy

>>713891730
DVDs and Blu Rays

>>713891492
>Daniel Ondruska and Aleksej Vjalicin filed paperwork a year ago
Yeah but I'm talking about the leader who has been working on this for over a decade.

>>713891638
>which are almost entirely all degenerate companies.
What is with you people having an odd sense of good will for video game developers as if they aren't as bad if not worse?

>>713891223
i am ok with that.
i literally just want to know, ink on paper, how fucked we are
it's not an unrealistic demand

>>713890370
heraldry is antisemitisch

>>713891798
Well the music industry murdered MJ because he owned too much music rights and the movie industry... Well.
Games retards are proportionally less literally Satan and more cartoon Villain tier.

>>713891258
i feel like that is an ancient image from that time. like i'm pretty sure that mountain dew in europe has some orange juice in it, not that they were required to list it.

>>713891798
Dunno about movie but Music industry is diabolic as fuck.
Tried to take Happy Birthday out of the public domain, the fucking rats.

>>713891638
>This is actually the main reason why the initiative is exclusively going after video games
Which is impossible you know that right? If this actually started to threaten the big video game publishers they would argue it needs to effect all software or it is unfairly targeting them which would pull in the other software giants into the fight.

>>713891023
then a few years of the EU and the industry debating and going back and forth until a settlement can be reached or the EU straight up enforces it which makes game devs consider how to add this in their titles and comes after it, but its likely they've started doing that with games before it because they saw the writing on the wall

Not my problem. I only play old games and they all work fine when I pirate them. Modern games are all fucking terrible, all of them without a single exception, there is nothing worth saving

If the government wasn't corrupt, all games, movies and literature would be required to be submitted to some kind of national library without any DRM. You could just a set period of time like 10 or 20 years until they become accessible to the public. This wouldn't interfere with copyright and would simply be a way to preserve culture. While franchises and IPs can be profitable for decades, no company makes significant profit from a particular piece of media. Even Lucasfilms (or Disney now I guess) doesn't make a bank off old movies compared to new ones or merchandise sales. And even if it would cut a bit into their profits, who fucking cares? Culture is more important than a corporation making 2% more money the year they decide to milk an old movie or other media.

>>713891305
>Alternatively, they might just decide that they don't want to regulate anything regarding this practice
That's honestly not an option, considering the initiative is even required to address if there's any existing legislation that the European Commission can act on. Which there is of course, all the EU consumer rights directives

>>713891234
if this happens then he lost because it didn't kill gaming like he claims

>>713891798
You cannot be worse than HDMI Forum (Founders: Hitachi, Matsushita, Maxell, Philips, Silicon Image, Sony, Thomson and Toshiba)

They blocked AMD from releasing HDMI 2.1+ compatibility on their Linux drivers, effectively leaving Linux users without full access to the features their hardware (monitor and cable) supports. So, AMD Linux users are forced to use USB-C or DisplayPort to use 2k/4k screens with over 90Hz refresh rate.
And this is all done because the HDMI Forum wants to make sure that you cannot "pirate" movies by recording the output of the HDMI signals.
A video game developer will never break my monitor as a form of DRM.

>>713892117
gacha games should be nuked

>>713892213
He will say the politicians see the harm this would cause so they agree with him and dismissed it.

>>713892160
>This wouldn't interfere with copyright
>You could just a set period of time like 10 or 20 years until they become accessible to the public.
Are you retarded or do you just not know what copyright is? What you're suggesting is literally a major alteration to it. Also that's going to ruin smaller creators.

>>713892160
>no company makes significant profit from a particular piece of media.
Not true and a lot of artists of various kinds have made a living off one hit wonder they had when they were in their 20's.

>>713892196
It's an option for them to say
>we'll treat these games as services
>but they have to label themselves as such by saying "This game will stop functioning in 1 or more years, when we no longer provide the service for it". As they approach the planned end of service date, the label should say "This game will stop functioning in X days, when we no longer provide the service for it"
It's the laziest way to approach this.

>>713892228
>You cannot be worse than HDMI Forum
That's a fucking dangerously stupid mentality. Just because there's someone worse doesn't mean you should trust the other.

>>713891904
>drinking liquid diabetes
why would you do this

>>713891638
the good ol' EULA roofie. hide assfucking in the fine print.

>>713891904
>not required to list
that's a myth the same with the fucking below 2% not being required to be listed
all ingredients are required to be listed unless you're buying a carrot or some shit like that but even then it often says that it's just a carrot
if this was true then many additives like sodium benzoate wouldn't be listed in EU products because they're limited to 1 ppt in most products and yet they are if they're in sauces and other condiments
the reason sodium benzoate was removed in soda is because it can react with ascorbic acid to form benzene if exposed to high heat or sun rays
but it was removed from soda in the US, too

>dunking on piratesoftware
Ok I'm out of the loop
I see this faggot on youtube and never click
How is this dunking on him, what did he do? I assumed he's a FOSS guy from his name

>>713892532
That's not a fine print thing, that's just how selling works.
You're seeing "transfer of ownership" as something that refers to the object when it refers to the property.

>>713892532
Can't they literally be sued for this? They're blatantly lying to the end user. It doesn't matter what an EULA says, redefining what words mean is literally there only to maliciously mislead the person making a purchase.

>>713892487
This alone could make normies notice these shitty practices. Not to mention the effect on the industry having an actual expiration date and mandatory, contractually binding, enforceable support period, or you get fucked

>>713885216
fucking kutha benchord, thanu kushni puttha?

You do realise these white jews are literally using you? They're still racist to your face and you think signing this petition is going to help them be your friend they hate you bruv stick with us, not them

>>713888728
Literally all that has done is driven me to NOT play Diablo 4 lmao

>>713892512
>Just because there's someone worse doesn't mean you should trust the other.
Point me to a sentence where I said I trust video game publishers. I'll wait.
And while you're looking, keep in mind that the whole reason why this initiative exists is because people don't trust them.

>>713892228
this pisses me off because I wanted to buy LG C4 42" as a monitor but can't because it only had HDMI output

>>713892756
No, it's not even them bending words or trying to redefine what they mean. It's just Sony explaining to the reader like they're retarded that "buy" doesn't mean you're buying the rights to the property, but a license to view it privately.
It's not a lie to say you bought something because you did.

>>713892369
In a sane world copyright would only last 20 years anyways

>>713892483
Which shouldn't happen. The point of Copyright existing is to TEMPORARILY give creators a monopoly on their ideas that then passes into the public domain, so if the creator wants to keep a exclusive revenue stream, they have to make more shit, which also passes into the public domain, thereby driving innovation. The goal was never about actually protecting the "rights" of creators, it was always a mechanism to foster the creation of new works

Also, the vast, vast, vast majority of media stops selling after a few years, the amount of works that contiue to be relevenant on the market for decades or only gets big after the author dies is like .0001% of shit.

A few people missing out on big profits in those rare cases is not a reason to keep 99.999% of media locked under copyright for nearly 200 fucking years where most of it becomes lost media before it becomes public domain

Even back in the 1920s when copyright only lasted 14 years, something like 80% of all films that got made became lost

>>713892756
EULA's just haven't been tested in court because nobody ever fights specific points in them so they keep adding more shit to it. They're pretty much just used by companies as the first line of defense, whenever you the customer complain about something they point to the eula and remind you that you agreed to it. That ends the conflict 99.9% of the time so eula's have a lot of value even if the legal system doesn't back them up.

>>713892756
you should have read the terms and conditions, they clearly told you that if they were to say
>you have ownership of this movie
that doesn't mean or imply you have ownership of that movie.

>>713889109
Two EU nations already have. Reddit was having a meltdown about them several months back because Nintendo blocked access to Pokemon unite from those countries lmao

>>713892879
Anon, this whole conversation was started because either you or the original anon saw game devs as "better".

>>713885032
A Greek internet friend told me Greeks are actually very proficient in English
>>713885380
why is peepee 21% less White than balls

>>713892959
>In a sane world copyright would only last 20 years anyways
More like a Jewish world, no one should have their ideas taken from them for no reason for others to profit on. The whole point of copyright in the first place was to give creators control over their own ideas while spurning others to be original.

>>713893025
EULAs have been brought to court several times though and every time they fail as a legal defense. Its in the same vein as suing some smaller mom and pop store a gorillion times so you can maintain monopoly

>>713892958
why do they have top hide that 21 pages into a EULA agreement instead of an asterisk next to the buy button?

>>713885029
>>713885130
The EU fucked up the GDPR, they can fuck up worse.

Btw enjoy having to use your ID to browse 4chan in a few :)

>>713886169
USB C is a terrible connector, Apple's lightning was better, now we are stuck with a shitty connector standard

>>713892959
I don't have a problem with artists living on one great piece of work. If the work is still making money it is bringing joy to people and the artist earns something off of that. You only live 80-90 years if your lucky, forever is a long time and most of it the artist wont earn a dime on their creation.

>>713892959
>so if the creator wants to keep a exclusive revenue stream, they have to make more shit, which also passes into the public domain, thereby driving innovation.
You know that they have to do that anyway, right?
Those people living off of one hut wonders don't just sit on them, they still go out and perform, licence it out and do whatever with it. So it's not like passive income since they often have to actively search for these opportunities.

In the case of video games it's even harder to do that since you actually have to improve on the previous game to stay relevant.

>>713893037
You can't reasonably expect people to read a 20 page document before making a purchase where the big shiny button says "Buy" or "Purchase" - which are words with an already defined meaning.

Browncel brownie esl poorfag poorcel tranny chud cope and seethe thread
You own nothing and you WILL like it

>>713893420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mimv86_Lw5w

>>713892605
Nah, he is an extremely narcissist gay furfag who considers himself a game dev (undertale clone that has been in early access for 7 or 8 years now), claims to be an ex-blizzard dev (nepohire that only worked in QA), and some l33t hacker that hacked nuclear powerplants for the government (dubious) and has 3 DEFCON black badges (actually earned by teams of 20 to 40 people each time).
He had the shittiest take ever on skg, didn't understand it, didn't actually read anything about it and has doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on it, just like he does for everything, a regular pattern considering all the controversies in the last few months being basically about the same kind of behaviour.
Now Ross responded and everyone is rightfully shitting on fagware because he still refuses to admit that he misrepresented skg or made any mistake concerning it while playing the victim.

>>713892605
The dude has misinformed against a campaign for customers rights, and by looking at the graph, he is the main cause of its killing (before penguinz0 came for an Uno reverse card).
Probably he knew what he was doing as he has a game, although I don't see what he earns with this misinformation.
He did not admit any fault. He doubled down.

He seems to have an history for lying and misinforming for other things.
He seems to have an history of speaking as he has authority, but he is not expert himself, or just misinforms.

>>713893340
>>713893420
Skill issue :)

>>713893341
>USB C is a terrible connector
Retard.

>>713893210
Copyright is litterally a goverment enforced monopoly, it's the jewish concept to begin with

>The whole point of copyright in the first place was to give creators control over their own ideas while spurning others to be original.

No, it wasn't. The literal US consitution outright says that ideas do not have inherent owners and that copyright is merely a mechanism to encourage people to make shit that will then pass into the public domain, and that giving that monopoly to the author is a privlege, it is not a "natural right" to have a claim to an idea

>[the United States Congress shall have power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

>>713893389
And for those people, their copyright expiring after 20 years really wouldn't make or break their ability to make ends meet for that same reason.

>>713893340
>why do they have top hide that 21 pages into a EULA agreement instead of an asterisk next to the buy button
Because the EULA literally covers how copyright law works and buy with an asterisk implies you aren't buying something when you actually are.

>>713892369
Are you fucking retarded? The owner would still hold the copyright, nobody else would be able to profit off the particular movie or the IP. Each new release in the franchise would have a 20 year timer, the IP would be unaffected.
It would be the same as retro ROMs and other warez on piracy sites except all legal and easily accessible while maintaining the 20 year period so the publisher has more than enough time to milk it dry.
It's just the national film registry or regular ol' libraries on steroids.
How are you going to twist it further, corporate dog?

>>713893557
Nice argument, fag.

>>713893341
>GDPR is le bad
lmaoooo

>>713893210
Lol. Art belongs to the public, copyrights are an attempt to commodify art - nothing more Jewish than that. You can't copyright a video game mechanic or character just like you can't copyright a motif of a painting or a narrative. It's all kikes trying to squeeze a penny out of interactions that should be free (free as in freedom). In a non Jewish world where star wars or pokemon are cultural staples, the public ought to be allowed to add to these works.

>>713893645
Stop stealing, thief. You do not have any right to art that you didn't pay for.
Your brown. ESL ESL ESL

>>713893557
USB C is not terrible but it's true that Lightning was superior as far as the connector goes. We could've easily adopted Lightning instead forcing Apple to give it up and implemented all the protocols we use. Fuck it, rename it to USB-L for convenience.
But you're a dummy that doesn't understand the difference between a connector and protocol so it's not like we can have this conversation anyway.

>>713893471
>>713893494
Thanks for the qrd.
>undertale clone that has been in early access for 7 or 8 years now
lol

>>713882060 (OP)

The virgin PirateSoftware
>Relationship is some fuckbuddy he met via second life
>Furry
>Nepobaby, can't do shit on his own
>Fake deep voice because he sounds like a faggot irl
>Fans are ill informed morons who leave when they figure out how much of a lying bitch he is
>Get's called a roach, pisses his pants over it
>Unearned smuggness
>Everyone he interacts with thinks he's an asshole
>Coward bitch
>Corpro bootlicker
>Spent 8 years on an RPGMaker game, still nowhere near done
>Still somehow can't progress on it despite having the means to do so

The Chad Ross Scott
>Happily married to a woman who supports and loves him
>normal
>All his accomplishments are self made through sheer work and dedication
>Voice so iconic it became the defacto voice for Gordan Freeman
>Small but dedicated fanbased that's stuck with him for decades
>Get's called moldman in jest by his fans, shows he can take banter
>Humble and good hearted
>Everyone he speaks to has nothing but nice things to say about him
>Punches above his weight for things he believes in
>Hates corpos and stands up for consumer rights
>Has made countless high quality videos over the decades, plus the upcoming movie he has HAS TO MAKE!
>Still manages to put out kino despite his quest to save video games taking up so much time

Remember kids, don't be like Thor the faggot. Be like Ross the moldman and you'll live a happy and fullfilling life.

>>713892369
>that's going to ruin smaller creators.
How come? Almost all smaller creators are significantly more pro-consumer than corporations. If copyright laws have proven anything that's that they only serve big corpos.
>What you're suggesting is literally a major alteration to it
Objectively false. Copyright laws were originally intended to only last 14-30 years, which is exactly what that anon is describing. Copyright lasting over 30 years is a recent trend which was created by corporations during the era of deregulation of american capitalism 50 years ago, which ultimately lead to it's slow downfall.
So, the copyright laws WERE ALREADY MAJORLY ALTERED.

>>713893627
Are you expecting for someone to argue with you when you initially provided 0 arguments yourself?

>>713893640
>hehe now all my data is sold but all sites is broken and full of popups, stick it americhuds!
Raughing out roud

lmao @ all the idiots in these threads who are meatshielding giant corpos
these corpos you are shilling for would enslave you and turn you into onions when you're no longer useful if the laws didn't prohibit them from doing so
"""people""" against SGK and other such initiatives shouldn't be allowed to vote or reproduce, they're clearly just soulless flesh automata only fit to lick the boots of their corporate overlords

>>713893210
>be original
that isn't the point of copyright you turbojew cunt. corpos are not original at all. they keep reiterating on the same shit. they aren't original at all.
licensing and lawyers make it a nightmare for anyone who's not obscenely mega rich to get anything done
until last decade, people had to pay to sing happy birthday. a fucking song that's over a century old
die fucking kike scum
the entire poing of (((copyright))) is to make it so the masses can't copy anything, while the corpos snatch up the rights and consolidate into massive mega empires on the back of authors, ruthlessly mining their work for profit with one-sided contracts

>>713893772
Whatever you say kike, art will still be shared freely forever. And eventually the copyright mafia will get broken up and we'll be able to make and sell pokemon and mario games too. For profit. Cope.
>ESL
Says the nigga who's reply is 100% unrelated to anything I wrote lmao

>>713893575
>it's the jewish concept to begin with
HA no, if it were up to Jews they just wouldn't let you have ownership of your own property.

>The literal US consitution
Isn't the origin of copyright mind you. Anyway it actually says this
>Under the IP Clause, copyrights and patents are based on a utilitarian rationale that exclusive rights are necessary to provide incentives to create new artistic works and technological inventions. Without legal protection, competitors could freely copy such creations, denying the original creators the ability to recoup their investments in time and effort, reducing the incentive to create in the first place. The IP Clause thus reflects an economic philosophy that the encouragement of individual effort by personal gain is the best way to advance public welfare through the talents of authors and inventors.

>that exclusive rights are necessary to provide incentives to create new artistic works and technological inventions. Without legal protection, competitors could freely copy such creations, denying the original creators the ability to recoup their investments in time and effort, reducing the incentive to create in the first place.
In other words, eat shit you Jewish cunt and stop leeching off of the ideas of others.

>>713893341
As if Apple wasn't trying to make the strangest proprietary connectors in order to force you to buy only their cables, which will change from product to product.
Don't shill that trash company.

>>713893848
PirateSoftware was caught looking up guides to puzzle games before playing them on stream and then pretending he played these games for the first time completely blind and is a genius for solving them quickly. It's the most pathetic thing I have seen someone do in a long time.

>>713893210
>The whole point of copyright in the first place was to give creators control over their own ideas
The 1790 Copyright Act literally says "AN ACT FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF LEARNING," despite accomplishing the opposite.
I know your kind all too well, long nose tribe.

>>713894017
USB C is flimsy, after a week of use it stops fitting in snugly and gets loose, plus the flimsiest part is on the devices, good luck replacing it lol

>>713894017
>If copyright laws have proven anything that's that they only serve big corpos
Anon, do you think that we would have a thriving indie scene if those creators didn't have the benefit of copyright?

>>713886978
Half of Europe already signed the fuck out of the petition. It's the other half that needs to wake the fuck up.
You Americans might cry over and over about "European heritage" or whatever, but Europe is far from a culturally unified region.

>>713894181
The reason Lightning is better than USB-C is because the port on the device (female) is less likely to break with Lightning than USB-C. On the other hand USB-C cable connectors (male) are more durable than Lightning.
It's easier to replace a cable than a port on the device.

>>713893494
>although I don't see what he earns with this misinformation.
Probably has something to do with that publisher thing he launched with Ludwig, since they're bound to publish some live-service slop at some point.

>>713894313
You're expecting people who only think about things in the context of large corporations to understand what it's like as a small creator.
I guarantee no one here has ever actually tried to create anything.

>>713894274
can you take your crapple cable discussion to >>>/g/ faggots?

>>713885109
that map is old tho, Spain and France went over 100% around the time Ross released his last video

>>713894138
What you quoted isn't the US constitution dumbass, what I quoted is
And what you quoted just agrees with what I said anyways

>and stop leeching off of the ideas of others.
Stop leeching off the state to stop other people from making shit just because they borrowed your eyes

>>713894138
Totally ridiculous to claim that scientific and artistic development is based on copyright when copyright is a modern invention. Not to mention that like all Jews you don't answer the actual argument you've been presented with. Nobody is against being able to exclusively produce something that you've made. What people are against is that copyrights last for absurd amount of time or indefinitely. You think that incentivises innovation you fucking retarded kike? When after 70 years others are not allowed to add onto something? Explain the logic retard. Are there not dozens of corporations who can take existing copyrighted designs and improve upon them? Would they not do it if they had the opportunity to have, let's say, 20 years of profit off it before it expires? Fuck you.

>>713894181
Anon Apple's Lightning is older than USB-C and Apple actually had a part in designing USB-C itself (remember they shilled it hard by making a Mac with no USB A ports in fucking 2015).
I'm no Apple dicksucker Lightning was the one design they nailed, in a better world they would have made it royalty free so that the EU could have chosen it as standard instead.