Thread 713887293

What went wrong with Death Stranding 2? The reception is extremely lukewarm.

>>713887293 (OP)
ps5 niggas only play fortnite

Losing to NBA and Fortnite already. Grim.

>>713887521
Lmfao replace Death stranding with GTAO and that's literally all console negroes play

>>713887293 (OP)
What's the matter, too hard for you?

>>713887293 (OP)
Maybe people are getting tired of Kojima's bullshit

>>713887293 (OP)
Higgs didn't win in the end.

>>713887521
>NBA on ps+
>Fortnite free
DS2 is the top seller

>>713887293 (OP)
PC version is inevitable, why get hyped for a downgraded version. If it was console exclusive people would care.

>>713887293 (OP)
The gameplay is boring

Man, it’s just really not that great.

It’s still a literal walking simulator
Stealth isn’t as good as MGSV

Scoping out camps from a distance is engaging, but the rest isn’t.

Listening to NPCs talk after dropping off cargo is awful.
Even the idea of planning a route isn’t fun, where the game misses out on the player leveraging the external environment and camps to get around a situation.

It’s better than 1, but that’s nothing to write home about. I’d recommend it to people who like hiking.

>>713889352
Nah E33 is

>>713889838
>It's better than 1
So its great?

>>713887521
This is grim

>>713889917
Since japan is a newborn country and it seems that they just now through kojimbos ingenuity they re-discovered what the ancient greeks did 2000+ years ago, which is ancient greek tragedy and a bad one at that. Final fantasy 15 was an honest bad try at it and kojimbo completely lost the plot with his hollywood puppets to convey literally any message.

Honestly it's much more enjoyable to re-read the Odessy than playing DS2.

>>713889917
1 sits at like a 6.75/10, and gets a pass from its bizarre concept and great cutscenes.

All of Death Stranding 1 and 2 feel like Kojima is stuck in MGS4, except we don’t have the amazing octocamo.

>>713887521
>niggas when a game ain’t got a ball, guns or parcels

>>713887293 (OP)
Same with the original. Wait for it to come to PC, then for Timmy to give us our free copy (not paying for a walk & watch)

>>713890252
why wait? you can play it for FREE right now on both youtube and twitch

>>713890150
odessy isn't a tragedy doe

>>713887293 (OP)
Kojimbo gets a pass, because he's a freemason feetfag banging C-listers. Also normies think he's le based.

>>713890610
>Freemason

He’s a white hat.

>>713890662
What's that? A rank?

>>713887521
To be fair, Fortnite is the only game zoomers play and there's an effectively infinite number of normies who play sportsball games and don't engage with other vidya at all.

>>713890610
And because it sells.
/v/ is just in denial because it's full of schizoid MGSfags mad that their father figure Kojima not only moved on from MGS, but that the last MGS was an actual vidrogame and not a movie with zero gameplay

>>713890747
They’re like good guy operatives that put occult stuff in Marvel movies, Evangelion and MGS2 in order to produce a certain zeitgeist in the younger cultures, specifically male, at least from a media perspective.

Think of it as the opposite of someone putting Satanic subliminal messaging in an Eminem music video.

>>713887521
>losing to Fortnite
Nigger Fortnite made 1.8 billion dollars in two weeks because they sold a bunch of Star Wars skins.
It's impossible to beat it unless you are Rockstar.
Now they have no event and only a microtransaction fest like NBA is beating it

Is there anyone here actually enjoying it?

>>713887521
Fortnite has really good traversal mechanics. There’s always a fun, kinetic way to move around the map and engage enemies.

It’s a really good “open world” toybox.

30 hours in and so far it's just felt like a DLC or expansion for DS1, probably a good thing for a lot of people but I'd hoped for more after 6+ years.

>>713891026
Never've been a fan of his work - tried Phantom Pain, expecting a stealth shooter & got ... something else. Idk, I come from Splinter Cell & Hitman, MGSV was something way more boring for me. Not sure what he's even famous for, but like I said - never been a fan of his work.
>>713891127
I may be retarded, because I've no clue what this means.

The gameplay is fucking boring and the story / cutscenes are embarassingly stupid
The game has extremely high production values but Kojima is a fucking manchild

>>713891196
I have, it lets you use vehicles and guns just 2 hours in, is great.
Problem with DS1 was how it took like 10 hours before it became MGSV 2

>>713887293 (OP)
Death Stranding 1 also had a lukewarm reception until youtube essayists gaslit the entire industry into believing it was ludokino. Just wait until some jackass with a nasally voice and a VCR filter makes a two hour long video about why it's secretly genius.

>>713891127
The red pill belief system keeps getting more and more retarded

>>713887293 (OP)
DS1 wasn't well received and this is just more of the same shit.

Personally, I've been sick of Kojimas crap since PW. I don't know what happened with his brain at that time but for some reason he REALLY wants to waste your fucking time ever since.

I loved everything prior to PW and nothing since.

>>713891601
>/v/ calling others manchildren
>the place that slurps up Pokemon, Palworld, Deltarune, Resident Evil and unironically thinks MGS1 has good writing

>>713891752
I'm not /v/, I'm a person posting on /v/, big difference

>>713891026
>I LOVE KOJIMA
>I don't like MGS though
Are you like those Switch shills that hates Nintendo's older games?

>>713891681
>gaslit
>ludokino
What millennials speak is barely English anymore

>>713887521
KEK, good riddance

>>713887293 (OP)
feels like fanfiction some retard wrote for the first game which was a bonafide masterpiece

>>713891928
>which was a bonafide masterpiece
shit like this leads me to believe DS2 is actually good

>>713891827
I think Kojima pulled his head out of his ass after MGS4 and started actually paying attention to the gameplay.
Until then gameplay in his games was a terribly designed afterthought, and all it had was endless cutscenes telling you utter non sense that just expose Kojima has zero clue about war or geopolitics.
MGS1 and 2 are specially laughable with the "soldier genes" crap and the generic Illuminati plot.

>>713891969
sad

>>713891684
Keep telling yourself that they just ‘happened’ to write those AI speeches from MGS2. As if anyone even knew what the ‘Patriots’ were in 2001.

>>713891545
The reason why MGS became so popular was the small details. At that time game developers had no clue about what they were digitizing (see the reload of the m4 in CS). Those small details made the game look like a game only for the highly educated (LARPers) that would understand such details and enjoy the game.

With mgsv by creating an open world, the effort in creating those details disappeared in favor of the open world. Hence why it feels so soulless.

the voice acting and voice direction has gotten significantly worse in his games since he started hiring celebrities. It's like he's afraid to direct these celebrities which in turn leads to stilted shitty performances.

Hayter may have sounded like a cartoon, but at least he had a liveliness to his performance

>>713892314
Yeah, who wants gameplay when you have a billion cutscenes and a melting cube

>>713887521
>niggas when a game ain't got a ball or gun

>>713887293 (OP)
Everyone knows it's a bad game when even shills tell you that it will take longer than 10 hours before the game becomes interesting

>>713892325
Hayter could never

>>713887293 (OP)
mgsv was kojimas last good game

>>713892314
>MGS1, 2, 3 and 4
>focus on plot and pointless details
>culturally forgotten, zoomers don'teven know who Solid Snake is
>MGSV and MGR
>cut down on the plot and focus on gameplay
>still popular and played to this day
Justice.

>>713892234
Who did what now?

>>713889352
That list is by revenue not most played

>>713892451
Precisely what DS2 improves on DS1 is you don't have to wait 10 hours to unlock cars, assault rifles and the hoverboard.

>>713892573
It's a conspiracy coming true, like the domestic terrorism on US soil to motivate the locals for war In 'Deus Ex'.

>>713892068
who are you posting this nonsense for?

>>713892539
>>713892068
Reminder that /v/ genuinely hates gameplay and just wants plot shit to theorize about.
It's why this board can't stop slurping up genuine, gameplay-less garbage like Deltarune, Life is Strange, The Coffin of Andy and Leley, Mass Effect or Danganronpa.

Hell, it's been a decade and they are still mad that MGSV had no plot, even thought that's one of it's strengths.

It's ironic /v/ seethes about Kojima when both share the delusional idea that storytelling has a place in videogames.

>>713889352
It's the only major release this month but NBA still beat it

>>713892746
Are you saying Kojima is part of some secret organization, which 24 years ago gave him special insight into the future of AI?

>>713892826
What non sense? Until MGSV all Kojima games had some of the worst gameplay on the industry and were by far the worst stealth games of all.

>>713892170
if you think walking around in a grey open world with nothing in it is good then i wont trust you when you tell me something is bad

>>713892895
>Hell, it's been a decade and they are still mad that MGSV had no plot, even thought that's one of it's strengths.
Let's be fair here. If you were invested in the Metal Gear story, then you'd probably be pretty damn disappointed by the lack of it

>>713892927
Freemason aren't a secret, they're all over the place. Also yes - can't know for sure, but that monologue about digital IDs, 24/7 surveillance, making the truth obsolete when anyone can falsify anything & militarized AI was prophetic.

>>713893050
If you were invested in MGS plot you have a smooth brain and a low IQ.
I have no idea how this franchise's plot became popular when it's full of dumbass japanese humor and genuine retardation like "soldier genes" or the idea that PMCs could replace national armies.

Watch the trailer and see a bunch of interesting weird characters. Play the game and discover all they do is deliver bland expository dialogue in tedious emotionless cutscenes while Norman Reedus stares into space looking like he is holding something in his mouth.

It's because it's better than DS because he added QoL and other good ideas that makes DS2 so bad. People were claiming all the bad parts were intentional and that is what made DS so amazing. So when Kojima removes/improves all the bad parts for DS2, it suddenly just becomes your average game.

>>713887293 (OP)

>Tarman
>Dollman
>Die-Hardman
>Heartman
>Deadman
>Tomorrow
>Fragile
>Rainy

What the fuck is this pretentious brain damaged horse shit.

>>713893108
Why would Kojima be involved in all of that?
>but that monologue about digital IDs, 24/7 surveillance, making the truth obsolete when anyone can falsify anything & militarized AI was prophetic.
They are also all things that could be predicted, and have been in numerous fictions, both of low and high quality, popular and otherwise. I don't really understand what exactly it is Kojima was informed about or why

>>713892653
These only makes the gameplay less tedious but it still the same boring mechanics

>>713892927
Where do you think AI came from all of a sudden? It just seemed to “pop up”. How old do you think the tech really is

>>713892234
Yeah the world being ruled by a secret society of powerful people was invented by MGS2, nobody had ever heard of that idea before

I can’t handle these delivery missions. They all feel like side quests where they should be main story.

>>713893451
Same as Solid Snake, Big Boss, Skull Face, Revolver Ocelot, and the worse one, Chico, literally "Boy" in Spanish

>>713893251
Okay, but that doesn't change my point. There were people who liked MG in large part due to its plot. You can't really be surprised that said people would want that to continue in 5, and were assmad that it didn't. There were so many theories going around on /v/ back before Phantom Pain was even revealed to be MGS, and even more so after it was confirmed. It had a lot of momentum, and then it just came out sort of lacking. Never played MGS myself, but I understand why people were disappointed

>>713893527
You're a /pol/ boomer tier idiot

>>713893287
Sounds like MGS, except MFS character design is not weird, just capeshit.

>>713892903
>>713887521
are you guys genuinely retarded? THEY GAVE OUT NBA FOR FREE! so ds2 is the best seller

>>713893453
Don’t worry, you’ll understand in a decade. I bet you think you posting on 4chan is also just coincidence.
Liking video games, watching anime, posting on 4chan. It’s all designed to turn you into the perfect “soldier”.

>>713887293 (OP)
only contrairiens on /v/ hate it, its highly regarded everywhere else

>>713893648
And those people should fuck off and go watch movies instead of demanding games be movies.
And maybe drop the schizoid doublethink pf crying that Kojima makes movies when the sole reason you seethe about him is that, for once, he made an actual game.

MGSV is the perfect ending to MGS, an actual videogame that makes MGSfags feel stupid for spending years theorizing about a videogame's plot-

No doubt they are the same trannies spamming Deltarune threads

>>713887293 (OP)
DS was never good and Kojima clearly went senile

>>713893527
>Where do you think AI came from all of a sudden?
Were you following the development of AI before it came into the mainstream?
>How old do you think the tech really is
What tech?

>>713893453
Why? For money, fame, sweet little white feet - who knows, who cares?
Point is Artificial Intelligence has been speculated about for the last ~60 years, but only he predicted with accuracy what's happened, is happening & will happen.

It could be all bullshit, of course, and governments don't actually want us in a AI-powered superjail, under the boot of social scores & digital currency under the eye of AM, Skynet, GlaDOS or whatever.

>>713893930
>only he predicted with accuracy what's happened, is happening & will happen.
Is MGS the only science fiction media you've ever consumed?

>>713893662
So what? Death stranding 2 is the new PS5 exclusive but people would rather play an NBA game that was released a year ago

>>713894047
its free retard so guess what all the broke niggers are playing

>>713894015
Haven't consumed even that, considering my only bout with it is a 1h play of Phantom Pain. Definitely not gonna start citing authors, that's just pedantic.

>>713893527
artificial intelligence has been a thing since at least the 70s, videogames are proof of that,
probably even the 60s but was secret
generative ai like we have now is far more recent, the public having access to it since probably the 2000s, and it was maybe a secret in the 90s
cleverbot, which came out in 97', is an early form of generative ai for text as a chatbot.
>>713893649
and youre a tiktok zoomie faggot

I don’t see the need for stealth in ds2. MGS was clever in this respect, where killing was a choice, and MGS3 plays on that brilliantly.

>>713894160
AI came from the computing power of GPUs
There's nothing secret about it

>>713894148
If you've never played it how do you know what the contents are? wtf?
Nothing said in MGS hasn't been said in other places
Like the entire genre of cyberpunk

>>713894139
PS+ isn't free retard

>>713893251
The plot was genuinely interesting and the characters iconic. Cinematography always leagues above any other game too. These are just straight facts. Your issue is probably denial or double digits IQ. Metal Gear is one of the best game series in gaming.

>>713894332
>The plot was genuinely interesting
If you have a brain the plot is fucking stupid

>>713894265
yes, the content is available only if you play the game

>>713892968
Kojima literally invented the stealth genre retard. Metal Gear Solid on PS1 was waaaaayyyyy ahead of its time. While everyone were chasing Nintendo making Mario 64 clones Kojima was reinventing, innovating and pushing the envelope.

You retards truly have no idea what you're even talking about anymore. Just shut the fuck up seriously.

>>713894368
>this thing is presented to me stupidly, so it actually IS stupid!

Stupid take

>>713894417
Either you experienced it or you didn't

>>713893884
Anon, I don't necessarily disagree with the gameplay part, but you come off as a really unreasonable. The MGS series had set a precedent of having story be a big companion piece to the gameplay, so it was completely reasonable to assume MGS5 would be like that. You may like 5 better, but why rail against the people disappointed in 5, when you actively dislike the rest of the franchise anyway?

>>713894473
Castle Wolfenstein did.

>>713894491
The presentation and the content is stupid

>>713894309
>erm actually
kys, every faggot has ps plus to play online games it technically isn't free but no one buys it for the games so it's a free bonus

>>713894496
>The MGS series had set a precedent of having story be a big companion piece to the gameplay
The gameplay was a companion piece to the story, there's more cutscenes than gameplay

>>713887293 (OP)
it's just boring and pretentious, 1/10 writing as usual

Can I please get a quick summary of what DS2 even is? Just more of the same as 1?

>>713894473
stealth action genre*

>>713894603
Isn't that only true for 4?

>>713894496
Because those people hate videogames and cheer when videogames don't focus on gameplay.
And all for a plot that genuinely dumb.

>>713887293 (OP)
Kojima makes games for pseuds

>>713887293 (OP)
more like DS1.5

>>713891026
I'm just mad all the Konami drama killed MGSurvive and Silent Hills

>>713894665
No

>>713894575
Cope. People would rather pay for PS+ to get NBA than play death stranding

>>713887521
Likemarioandprincessbeachbros...

>>713894667
Those people could've been expecting both gameplay and story. You've made this into a binary position, of either wanting only gameplay or only story. A lot of people who liked the game were still disappointed by the story

>>713894473
MGS1 is just 3D MG2 tho

>>713894931
Those people spent more time going on about how Quiet would be a tranny than any gameplay talk.
And Kojima has never written anything good, him removing the plot is an automatic improvement.

>>713894723
I know 3 has a lot more gameplay than story, but I don't know about the rest. I guess people were expecting 5 to be more like 3

>>713895125
MGS has had more cutscenes than gameplay (people literally timed it) since MGS1

>>713894227
do you think it was nearly as widespread of a piece of information as it is now

>>713895158
the constant codec calls, fixed camera, and wonky controls have really not aged well for the first 3 games

>>713891852
Your functional illiteracy is nobody else's problem but your own.

>>713895158
>people literally timed it
How? I assume if theyre watching 100% of the cutscenes theyre also 100%'ing the gameplay to make it fair.

>>713895282
>Twitter Newspeak having anything to do with literacy

>>713894789
hmm 8 bucks for ps plus or 70 for a new game, what are people more likely to buy? beats me, and it's not like most of people have ps plus anyway.

>>713895304
well yeah it's not like there's a lot of optional gameplay

I’m 5 hours in and it’s as average as it gets. I honestly don’t know what the reviews were praising. Looks good though.

>>713895334
>newspeak
Uh oh, you just said something that I can't find in an Oxford dictionary, looks like you're an underage newfag and I can ignore you from here on out.

>>713887293 (OP)
amazing that we have to pay $70 for a movie that is paraded around as a "game". why doesn't Kojima just make movies?

>>713887293 (OP)
I thought this game was supposed to be GOTY according to the shill threads before it launched? What happened?

>>713895446
Because film making has nothing to di with game development.

>>713895350
Theres no way 100%ing any of them but maybe MGS1 is shorter than the cutscenes. Just the side ops in 5 are longer than the cutscenes and thats not including story missions, animals, codename, developments, CDs, etc

>>713895536
Considering nothing good has come out this year if it's a 6/10 it's still enough to be GOTY

Cant believe i bought this movie again
Fool me twice

>>713892539
>MGS1-3
>forgotten

>>713892325
Listen I love Hayter. He use to be super iconic when we were kids but as we grew up, his performance became comically laughable. Kiefer as Boss / Venom was the right choice.

Here's an AI video of Hayter doing the heartless sea line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERPrHzklgJA
It just feels flat and emotionless even if you adjust for AI doing it.

>>713895651
>nothing good has come out this year
You don't even play any game, you're just here forever to shitpost.
You probably say the same every year since you were born.

Hell, your parents probably said the same about you, must be genes.

>>713895694
Culturally they have.
No one talks about those games, people nowadays don't know who Solid Snake is.

>>713895536
Because DS is a game you should play only once for the unique gameplay. Playing it again without the initial wow factor is just boring.

>>713895609
>side ops
Now you're reaching

>>713895738
So, what casual, likely female-led slop did you slurp?

People are playing Stellar Blade. Nobody cares about some no name jap garbage.

>>713887293 (OP)
Because it's not on PC, tard

>>713889838
>It's stil a literal walking simulator
>goes on to list multiple features that aren't walking
???

>>713895778
What bizarro world are you living in? Snake is still amongst the most famous vidya characters of all time. He returned in Smash Ultimate (best selling Smash game) and him and Raiden show up in Fortnite.

>>713895723
> Here's a fake video of a computer generating this guys voice reading something. It's not very good. This proves he's washed up in real life.
Every day I think people can't get dumber then some fucker like you shows up

>>713887293 (OP)
Maybe don't choose a meaningless ESL nonsense phrase desire being fluent next time

>>713895910
>he returned in Smash Ultimate
Yeah. almost a decade ago.
And Raiden is known, but from MGR

>>713895723
Kiefer was the perfect Big Boss voice

>>713895904
You just walk around and half assedly plan routes. Zelda does this better, where you’re actually looking at the environment, gauging what you can cut down, glide from and burn up.

Strand has you hold forward and hold the triggers. Sometimes you pull out a ladder from Dinkey Kong.

>>713887293 (OP)
corny shit, kojima is not as good as they say.

>>713895340
Another cope. It only means that $70 price tag isn't worth and this is the only PS5 exclusive released so far this year. There is no excuse that it's getting beaten up by NBA

>>713889838
>Stealth isn’t as good as MGSV
Stealth is literally same shit as MGSV. The only thing missing is prone which Kojima is probably saving for the sequel. You can still sneak up on enemies, tranq them, fool them, do hand to hand, engage in combat, etc.

>where the game misses out on the player leveraging the external environment and camps to get around a situation.
There's really nothing like this game where you have an entire open world to explore and that exploration in itself is actually challenging like climbing mountains, scoping paths, avoiding enemies, and managing your cargo etc. Most games is just A to B direct line sprint while downing stamina potions. It's a slower burn yes but it pays off if your dopamine receptors aren't burnt out.

>>713895818
Gameplay is thing like running, jumping, shooting, and sneaking. Side Ops present the player with chances to do that. Why wouldnt they count?

>>713895973
bro failed the turing test when he was the one asking the questions

>>713887293 (OP)
Kojima being allowed to piss away money without any leash to keep him from cramming his braindead "lol so random zany" and parasocial celebrity worship boner in there.

>>713895973
Retard listen to his voice. It sounds like an 8 year old using a voice changer back during the Xbox Live days. It's far too comic book tier for such a serious game. I'm not even talking about acting, I'm talking about the sound of his voice. It makes the game silly even if it he gave the best performance of his life.

>>713896138
Because it's literally a seperate option you choose from the menu completely detached from the main game

>>713896059
>zelda
Anon, Zelda has very simplistic traversal compared to DS. In Zelda, you can move forward the entire time with the only thing you have to pay attention to is the stamina bar. In DS, you have to constantly pay attention to your surroundings and micromanage several things at once like weight, balance, breathing ect.

I love Zelda BOTW and it does exploration well too but its a very different game.

>>713896118
You know it's on essential right?

>Put on peko hat because it says it reduces stamina loss
>Almost every non story voice line replaced with Sam saying peko
What do you think was going through Norman's mind saying all these lines

>>713896328
>Kojima on a leash
>terrible movies with 5 minutes of atrocious gameplay per game

>Kojima on his own
>MGSV
>only Metal Gear game along with MGR that can be considered a videogame

>>713892539
how retarded are you? on a scale of 1-10

Hayter sounded awful in PW, no idea why people would want him in V after that

>>713896498
Not enough to think fart jokes, "soldier genes" or a villain being motivated by the fact that he has no clue how genetics works makes a good plot.

>>713895738
You can tell straight away what kind of person he is, the the first reply to you when he can't even hold a conversation without buzzwords. It's pretty crappy bait I would ignore him, like he ignores games.

>>713896493
>MGSV
>kojima on his own
That was the game Konami meddled in the most. They are the reasin why GZ was cut out or likely why its open world shit

>>713896493
But Kojima isn't on a leash for Death Stranding?

>>713896717
Kojima was loterally Vice president of Konami when he made MGSV

>>713896776
then why was it unfinished?

>>713896616
oh ok so like a 9

>>713896124
Wow I can’t wait for Ds3 where we can finally prone. >>713896118

>>713896006
Smash ultimate was 7 years ago

>>713896725
And it still has more gameplay than MGS.

>>713896817
Yes, still not enough to slurp up MGS or the Japanese "humor" that plagues it

>>713896854
lol
lmao

>>713896815
Act 3 was cut to leave players with a... PHANTOM PAIN

It’s just not good, it’s not fucking good. I don’t know what fucking game all these reviewers were playing.

It’s a slightly more enjoyable DS1. That’s it. It’s everything wrong with modern game design. Waymarkers, needless open world, endless cutscenes.

Call of Duty’s open world stuff is better. This genuinely sucks and Kojima is a hack.

>>713889917
It's an 8 at the best.
OG DS is a 6.5

>>713896815
Because the president had no interest in Triple As, got rid of him and made the game come out as is.
Not that it matters since what was unfinished was plot shit.

>>713896463
So what? If people really want to play death stranding, they would pay that $70 price tag on the released day to avoid spoilers

>>713896973
It does, Metal Gear has maybe 2 hours of gameplay. 2 hours interrupted by endless cutscenes

>>713896996
>everything wrong with modern game design.
The map isn't cluttered with thousands of copypasted quests or collectibles like most open world shit.

>>713896996
You could at least explain why?
Your whole post is just complaining and saying another game of an entirely different genre does it better without the slightest explanation for your opinion.

>>713896429
Each main mission is a seperate option too, dipshit

>>713897106
>Metal Gear has maybe 2 hours of gameplay
Every Metal Gear game since MGS1 has at least 6-8 hours of gameplay, with PW ans MGSV having close to a hundred hours

>>713897132
You’re right. Now, there’s nothing in the map instead except for Mule containers.

MGS has the asian equivalent of MCU writing.
>look. the PTSD riddled war veteran believes in hecking Santa Claus, isn0t thst wholesome?
>look at these soldiers getting brutally massacred... And now here's Johnny's diarrhea xDDDD
Humor outside of comedies will never not be writing cancer.

>>713887293 (OP)
the first game was infamous because the masses were suprised that it was shit, even if this game is shit people generally know what to expect so no one will freak out

>>713897440
DS is supposed to evoke a sense of isolation, of course the map will be mostly empty. Shadow of the Colossus did a similar thing.

sorry kojima im not buying a ps5 for 1 game, see you in 8 months

>>713897448
If marvel movies were 2 hours of Sunny cooking eggs I might actually go watch one

>>713897440
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy, isn't the map itself kind of the point? All the variety comes from different land features and crossing them in different directions. At least in the first game.

>maxing out conection start is still a tedious shity grind

why couldnt they make these fun?!

>>713897448
Humour existed before Marvel and if your only point of reference for it is those films then its entirely a YOU problem.

>>713897448
Imagine being this much of a grump

>>713897291
No there's one main mission

>>713887293 (OP)
Name one PS5 exclusive that was not a failure

>>713897448
turn your monitor off if you want a shocking comedy

>>713897163
It’s just not engaging. All the same problems as 1.
Awkward BT combat, underbaked stealth mechanics, holding up for 4 minutes to get to the quest marker, droning NPC dialogue, UI is over complicated, core story elements are still not fleshed out properly (timefall).

People just get sucked in by the cutscenes. I’m guilty of this too. We’re playing a game that string you along for 30 hours to watch 5 hours of cutscenes.

I’m going to go return the game tomorrow. I’m not playing this shit again. Everyone on YouTube is a shill and they all got review copies with guidelines.

>>713897613
This character is another reason why MGS' plot is DBZ-tier slop.

>>713897646
Sure, in comedies, not awkwardly shoehorned into a military story.

>>713897658
Imagine liking MCU writing

>>713897718
I don't like humor in general.

>>713897553
The difference (Colossus is also overrated) is that Colossus has the anticipation and reveal of an amazing boss as a spectacle.

There’s no spectacle at the end of Stranding. It’s just a terminal with an NPC yapping and a Sonic Adventure ranking.
You’re not even doing anything exhilarating or clever to get around. You crossed a rising river. Cool.

>>713893031
you've never played the first

>>713897847
>Sure, in comedies, not awkwardly shoehorned into a military story.
Yeah, because there's never been a comedic moment in military stories outside of MGS

>>713897847
How is it MCU writing when it predates the MCU by ten years? You have zero frame of reference for anything you damn kid

>>713897971
Shadows of the Colossus was turbo casual slop, it has the same shit that makes so many indie games insufferable.

>>713894271
Even journos couldn't save this pile of crap

>>713898049
There have, and all those stories fall flat on their face for it, you posted one of the biggest examples of it.

>>713897623
I think it’s the wrong approach to design. Why does DS get a pass when Horizon Zero Dawn doesn’t?

The map has to facilitate something. If you stripped out the majority of the map, trimmed the size down, do you still essentially have the same game? I’d say you do.

>>713898087
Because it's the same
>LOL SO RANDUMB, HUMOR FOR 5 YEAR OLDS IN WHAT SHPULD BE A SERIOUS STORY

>>713897971
>has the anticipation
The anticipation is making it to your destination with all your cargo intact. How you get there is all up to you.

trapped on a crappy console

>>713898268
There’s no mechanical payoff, AND there’s no narrative payoff.

Why do I care about the cargo other than the score the game gives? There’s an irony in the game of trying to connect populaces that you never see.

>>713898228
War is a shitty bussiness. Pants get shat. Deal with it.

>>713898217
I give DS a pass because it's designed around being a walking sim first/fetch quest sim and was pretty open about it.

>>713897790
Those weren't an issue in the first game.
You have multiple tools to manipulate stealth against BT's and mules. The UI is clear as anything, There wasn't any point where I had to redo an action because something else happened or I couldn't find an option.
And holding up is something that applies for any game where you move forwards.
>complained about dialogue whilst being annoyed at story elements
At this point I'm wondering why you got this game if you hated the first so much.

>>713898491
Yeah, and the stories should be serious, but Kojima is allergic to that.
Which is why I have no clue why anyone likes it.

>>713887293 (OP)
Death Standing was a novel concept but it didn't need more of the same and certainly didn't need kojima doubling down on his celeb wanking

>>713898152
Yeah, because the Bond series is such a flop that isn't known all over the world and doesn't pre-date the shit you moan about.

>>713898431
You get new tools and better ways to navigate when you complete missions but that isn't the point. Filling the map with pointless content would distract from what the game is trying to do.

>>713896832
You know he can't just copy paste MGSV gameplay right? He'd get sued for that. He needs to implement changes gradually.

>>713898521
Why’d I get the game because everyone calling this the best game of all time. Highest rated game on PSN.

All the same issues as Last of Us 2. Just give normies characters talking with violin playing in the background and they’re fine, they love it.

Tired of these fucking Sony AAA games.

Just like the last 4 years of big sequels from Playstation, they improved the actual core game/content but as a result the longer game had a worse story.>>713896124
>>713889838
If anything I think the AI actually sees Sam from further than guards typically do in MGS5

>>713887293 (OP)
I just saw the cutscene with the black monsters and one had a space ship on it's head, it's fucking retarded.

>>713898625
Funny thing is the novels are actually pretty serious. Bond in the novels is a complete psychopath who is angry all the time and constantly thinks of how much he wants to kill the big bad.
It's the movies that turned Bond into a walking meme to the point they made movies like Austin Powers to mock them.

>>713896353
Anon you are talking about a COMPUTER GENERATED FACSIMILE

I'm watching a streamer play it and they had a 2 hours gap without cutscenes only to get one about throwing shoes around, and the next one was about apples or something

>>713887293 (OP)
Looks like creativedad was wrong

>>713898228
Why you mad tho?

>>713891681
This never happened. Believe me if discourse around DS1 changed to be more favorable to normies we’d see way less people doing the meme of asking what DS is even about. The big difference between then and now is that most people have accepted that they’ll either like DS or they won’t. Personally while I love seeing Japanese devs get their dues I just can’t help but feel like Kojima doesn’t make games for me. And that’s okay. I don’t have to play everything from Japan.

>>713899010
>meanwhile, Konami loterally begging Kojima to come back because they know MGS is dead
Hope he doesn't though, MGS shpuld remain dead

>>713898592
The concept is novel, but it’s still too abstract.
>What if the barrier of life and death weakened and the afterlife was a beach and these oil monsters lived there and it rains and you age if it touches you and when you die you become a beach monster but if a beach monster eats you you explode but babies can see the monsters and when you die the baby-

>>713899091
Because it's stupid shit that only manchildren slurp up?
Reminder that there's people who say MFS is genius.

>>713899109
More games in general, western and japanese, need to be this polarizing. It's how we get unique stuff to play.

>>713898731
I’m not playing 129 hours of Death Stranding so Kojima can finally make Act 3 and get revenge on Konami.

>>713899216
You're on 4chan on a Saturday, arguing about video games instead of being out on the town getting laid or spending time with your family. You better believe you're a manchild.
One of us! One of us!

>>713899278
Kojima is grateful to Konami, he doesn't have to make MFS anymore

>>713898780
>anything I think the AI actually sees Sam from further than guards typically do in MGS5

I noticed this too, but you have nothing to really counter it. But then you don’t need to counter it anyway because you just shoot things.

The game pretends to be a stealth game, but it’s really just a third person shooter where enemies spot you.

>>713899216
>>713899360
>MFS

>>713899331
It's 42 degrees here, I'm not moving and I'm sweating anyway.
I'm not going anywhere today

>everyone hates the first game
>suddenly everyone loves the second

Some of the ideas like the symbolism of the beach, the connection between newborn babies and the other side, etc. Are intersting, novel for the medium (although they've been part of different cultural manifeststions throught history), and I appreciete the effort of making a game around it. Im really mad we never got Silent Hills cause I think these concepts would've worked great in a horror setting. The whole celebrity thing is whatever, the acting is inconsistent and the dialogue is borderline anime sometimes, so other than Kojima doing it for himself I dont see the point of all that scanning and mocap. Walking is nice and vistas are amazing, but its not something I want to keep doing for 100 hours to be honest, even while I take many sub orders, etc., once I finish the story Im done. Combat was improved, but I could simply play MGSV at this point.

>>713898773
>everyone calling this the best game of all time. Highest rated game on PSN
It just came out. Everyone calls the newest game the "best game ever".
You got pulled in yourself with full recognition that this happens every time.

>>713899830
You’re right. This happened with MH Wilds, RE4, Baldurs Gate 3.
I get upset because of the reaction to these games. Players can’t analyse this shit.

>>713899656
People had time to digest the first one and realize they were wrong about it, now they're ready for the second

>>713899406
During night time they definitely don't see as much, and you can snipe the spotlights. In the daytime, they honestly see as well as I'd hope the average person spots a dude in big ass backpack running 200 meters out.

>>713887293 (OP)
>kojima dogshit cinematic non-game with chungus-celebrities in it
Oh boy, what could've possibly gone wrong with it?

These games exist just as an excuse for Kojima to cope, by meeting D list actors.

>meet new character
>they dump their tragic backstory
>back to talking like robots
I wish these characters had any personality. I miss Deadman's interactions with Sam.

>>713900939
that one budgeting picture but the person giving advice tells him to remove all the gratuitous hollywood celebrity cameos

I honestly might take a break from games for a while after how bad 2 is.

>ps5 only
I aint got one of those nigga

>>713899775
>Some of the ideas like the symbolism of the beach, the connection between newborn babies and the other side, etc. Are intersting, novel for the medium (although they've been part of different cultural manifeststions throught history), and I appreciete the effort of making a game around it.
Shadow of the Erdtree did the whole tar/beach/water but way less forced and hamfisted.

Kojima is way too heavy handed and also draws too much directly from other source material to the point you don't even know where the source material ends and Kojima input actually starts
The voidouts and the puddles they leave are quite literally Angel/N2 explosions in EVA.

>>713887293 (OP)
>The reception is extremely lukewarm.
Nice head canon.
But Snoyggers hate anything that's not Call Of Fortnite. DS1 would've flopped if it staid a PS4 exclusive as well.

>>713894543
Without the cutscenes?

Need help. Currently just finished order 12 and Tarman said that the Magellan can now fast travel. He said that I should go to my ring terminal, chart a course and it will give me an option in the Magellan where to go and stuff. I did the instructions until chart a course, but nothing happens. All it asks me to do is to map a route on where I'll go. The usual way. Nothing about fast travel. What am I missing?

>>713901962
Press left or right on the d pad to select a destination (safe cities and such)

I stood up and clapped abd said KINO when Fire punch scene.

>>713895723
>Kiefer as Boss / Venom was the right choice.
You didn't specifically need Kiefer though and his performance really wasn't as great as you think it was.

>>713902325
Nothing. Like I said when I hold X in the map, it's asking me to draw a route. The usual way when trying to find a route on how to deliver. There is no option at all to use the Fast Travel. I checked a video and I didn't even get this tutorial.
https://youtu.be/kXkIONMYbwM?t=16

>>713887293 (OP)
Kojima is just not a good game director and his gimmicks are tired a fuck by now. I hope this leads to more people ignoring his retarded ass.

>>713902850
/v/ has been saying this for a decade now lmao.

>>713902723
Are you on the map screen you get after accepting an order or something? You need the regular map.

>Coffin Hoverboard that you can dump your murder victims into
Yeah, I'm thinking it's ludo.

mgsv did not have good gameplay. it has all the same problems that botw had. directionless, featureless maps with no design intention but you have a variety of tools to approach the exact same problem rehashed 1000 times. it easily fools people who think having a lot of abilities for your player character is good gameplay. it's metal gear for minecraft kids.

>>713900939
Reminder that this same guy will insist MGS1, 2 and 3 were good

>>713897790
The UI isn't complicated enough actually. Theres several things I wish it had for when you are endgame and making thousands of deliveries with trillions of items in private lockers.

>>713903148
And BOTW is a videogame, MGSV is a videogame.
The problem with the others is that they are not videogames.

>>713902983
Regular map. The moment Tarman said to go to the ring terminal to check it out. Basically after Sam woke up and got that call from Tarman. I pressed the Options button in the PS5, got a 1 paragraph tutorial about it saying go to the world map. Then I went to the world map, and hold X. Nothing.

>>713903127
goblinmaxxing

>>713903405
i dont think botw or mgsv are good video games.

Just finished it

The game is a massive downgrade gameplay wise over 1 because there's never any reason to prepare. You can plot a straight line on brutal difficulty (only increases boss health 10x) and be handed cars and items and prebuilt everything. I never used any weapon other than machine guns until rocket launchers were required and the occasional blood grenade with that said you can legitimately drive through any bt area and not get hit it's almost impossible to get caught by them now.

Totally casualised gameplay. No need to build the roads or monorail either like why are there 2 just to waste your time.... There's no difference because you can fast travel with all items on the Magellan AKA the whole negative of FAST TRAVEL from the first game has been totally negated

Oh you can also turn off bts after you finish the game kek and shit story imo

>>713887293 (OP)
Some really insecure turn-cringe faggot is already review bombing DS2 on Metacritic. Probably the same moron that created this thread. lmfao

>>713887293 (OP)
>not on PC
why should i care?

>>713903136
>my game is flopping
It's still hilarious how much /v/ wishes Kojima's games would flop, then it spends years shilling MG Survive, and that one did flop.

>>713903547
>>713887293 (OP)
Here is another one. Fucking turn niggers literally hate anything and everything that isn't turn based.

>>713887293 (OP)
>Highly rated
>Topping sales charts
>ItS LuKeWaRm
At least it has a pulse unlike the necrotic garbage you've substitute for any semblance of coherent thought in your vacuous nigger life.

Playing DS1 right now and holy crap why are there so many cutscenes?

>>713903547
>>713903656
>>713887293 (OP)
And another one.

The way /v/ acts towards Kojima reminds me of the bitchy way my ex acts towards me whenever we meet.

>>713903732
>The gameplay is definitely an improvement
>0
lel

>>713903547
>>713903656
>>713903732
>>713903732
>>713887293 (OP)
And another one (not a tendie either, as you can see).

>>713903547
>>713903656
>>713903732
>>713887293 (OP)
Nearly every DS2 review bomber gave E33 10/10.

If you ever needed proof that turn-cringe fags are insane, then here you go. DS2 isn't even a fucking RPG, yet they still hate it.

>>713903732
How odd

>>713903547
>>713903656
>>713903732
>>713904124
>>713887293 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOO E33 NEEDS TO WIN BECAUSE IT IS TURN-BASED!!!
Holy mother of mental illness.

>>713904303
Winning GOTY awards means way too much for for these fanatics. It's like they need the validation that their game is a winning title instead of the fact they enjoyed the game.

>>713904303
Now this is an Indian guy

>>713904264
First time on metacritic?

>>713903662
calm down mr shillbot

>>713904540
I'd love to know the % of users that have only ever used 10 and 0 in their reviews. Then see what it does to scores if they all got removed.

I see kojima cultists are not taking the abortion that is DS2 well

Actually just adding in how annoyed I was after climbing the first part of the mountain and thinking hmm I'll head down this steep cliff and add in some zip lines and connect it to the pizza man. So I made the ropes and ladders and set off only to find a perfect 5 point zip line network with half a million likes on a single one exactly where I wanted to put mine. Ds1 never gave you this many freebies at best you got 1 zip line here or there that most of the times you didn't use. I never even built anything other than zip lines to finish a few routes because EVERYTHING WAS LEVEL 3 prebuilt and I started 11pm Tuesday night.

>>713887293 (OP)
I'm going to beat it, but there's nothing here to compel me onward. First game was steeped in mystery and being a breath of fresh air. This one, all of the ganeplay is exactly the same with no refinement. Just new weapons and shitty "combat" thrown in. And Kojima doesn't even try to make the story engaging. Sam goes back to delivering shit literally just because. It feels like ToTK, where journalists everywhere sucked its dick but the game is just one half asked fart of a sequel. Maybe my mind will change by the time the credits roll but I doubt it. Disappointed.

Oh, and why the fuck give me a cool duster in the beginning only to refuse me the option of wearing it later? Fucking Kojima.

Wait, it's out?

I thought people were talking about trailers and teasers this whole time.

>E33 vs DS2 shill war
>be me
>hate both groups
conflicting

>>713904935
It came out on Thursday, tuesday for prebuyers.

>>713903409
>>713902723
I dont know what to say, it works for me. Try moving on in the story, I tried it for the first time after order 13 or so. Use the ring terminal in your room, and on the map press left or rigth on the d pad to toogle the avilable locations

I got the first one on sale and kinda lost... Im in ch 3 and running around doing delieries and stuff finally but theyre not very fun. Ive got a bunch of ladders and climbing hooks and stuff but its easy enough just walking everywhere. Like, the terrain isnt that rough... Its pretty, I just thought the traveling would be harder.

>>713905209
All those easy trails everywhere weren't there at launch. You used to have to think about the best possible path. But one of the persistent online features is that the most commonly taken paths gradually level out and get cleared of debris. The best experience was playing at launch, and much of the value has been taken away in retrospect.

sex with Higgs

game is flopping because of the exclusivity bullshit
no one is gonna buy a whole ass console for ONE game, and an inferior version of that product at that
should've released on pc day one

>>713906075
Playing offline has always been the best way to enjoy this game
Impossible to take this game seriously when the map is littered with players structures, signs from players with garbage placement

>>713906356
if the game is flopping why is it sold out on amazon?

>>713906256
faggot shit

>>713906557
because amazon is terrible when it comes to vidya stocks these days

>>713906075
If you think it's bad in 1 then in 2 the trails form almost instantly. It's not even been a week and some areas feel totally different. I'll have to load up an off-line game and compare but I kind of can't be fucked making my way through Mexico again

>>713906645
Playing the Death Stranding games online is atrocious and immersion breaking
all the cringe 12 years old littered the maps with bullshit everywhere

>>713906557
/v/ deems a game flopping or not based on wish fullfillment, and there's a lot of millennials here who hate videogames and never got over MGSV not being a movie

>>713906484
You can disable those things and still play online.

>>713906801
the trails will still be there, which means you'll never have to face rough terrain ever, completely trivializing the core gameplay
only downside of playing offline is not being able to level up bridge link, but to be honest you would just go online once you've enjoyed and finished the game

>>713906960
could*

>>713887293 (OP)
I'm in the PC waiting room. I think there are more people on PC excited to play it than there are on Playstation.
PC was where the game took off the first time after a lukewarm reception as an exclusive launch; it will probably happen again.

>>713906960
That's bullshit, at least for 2. You don't get trails in regions you haven't connected.

>>713908604
yeah, just like in 1
once it's connected the rough terrain might as well not exist anymore

>>713908756
>rough terrain might as well not exist anymore
Correct because now you have a billion tools to avoid rough terrain. Hell, even your own footpath will almost instantly leave a trail you can track along. This has nothing to do with online features.

>DS1: forced to grind a movie nobody cares about.
>DS2: forced to grind a movie nobody cares about

Somehow the bad reception of the new installment is surprising for some people.

>>713887293 (OP)
I have to wait for the PC port. Once I actually play it I'll talk about it. And no, I'm not buying a current gen console for just this game.

>>713909085
>nobody cares about
/v/ will repeat this for decades hoping it becomes true

>>713887293 (OP)
People finally realize Kojimbo does the same shit every game, and wants you to think it's brilliant kinography.

Was there any reason the Solid Snake stand-in was in the game or is it just fan service? Not gonna play the game but was curious what's going on with that

>>713889838
Perfect example of a midwit who's too stupid to understand the themes and symbolism within the game. These games aren't made for you so stop playing them. It's like watching a dog trying to do math.

>>713909506
>kinography
You have a double digit IQ and think 4chan represents anyone but 4chan

>>713909415
To this day nobody talks about what is DS1 about. No threads, no conversation. Nothing.

I love how DS2 of all titles is causing /v/pol’s PC only troons to seethe and shid themselves uncontrollably for some bizarre reason, you’re getting this game in 8-12 months just calm thine tits

now when GTA VI hits and there’s a 2 year gap between console and PC release? gonna make these Death Stranding 2 cope threads seem comfy, LMAO

keep on keeping on PC-only sisters!

>>713909825
And /v/ has been seething non stop about Doom Eternal and RDR2 since they came out.
/v/'s opinions have zero relevance on the industry

I really wish you could explore the ship, and talk to people.

just unlocked ability to capture giant BT’s and make them fight other giant BT’s fucking kinooooooooo

>>713909825
>No threads, no conversation. Nothing.
And /v/ reveals the whole crux of it, people here don't want to play games, they just want to talk about them, to ship characters and make "theories" about plot shit like a bunch of women.
No wonder this place has such feminine taste in games and is all over crap like Deltarune or Coffin of Andy and Lelley, no gameplay, all "story".

>>713908756
Yeah, but the "rough terrain" footpaths get rid of are just small rocks. Theres mountains in this game, but walking around them is way easier and takes all of 2 extra minutes.

>>713909598
He's there to cuck you I'm being serious

>>713887293 (OP)
DS2 is a pretty raw sequel that mostly polishes up but it lacks impact since everyone's already familiar with the first game and its shenanigans.

>>713909598
Double fan service, since the fights are like the Cliff ones in the first game

>>713910308
Lets hope for hist next game Kojima invents the concept called "character interaction"

>>713906356
>game is flopping because of
the fact that it's shit

Kojima should be just an ideas guy, let other people actually do a great game with those ideas. Just look at DS2, its good but feels kind of underwhelming compared to the 1st one, not just because the novelty is lost, but because it doesnt do anywhere, its like a gaiden, or an actual Directors Cut DLC

>click continue
>save instantly loads as soon as you click
what is this wizardry?

>>713909653
>Perfect example of a midwit who's too stupid to understand the themes and symbolism within the game

Perfect example of a brainlet who thinks he's smart (Kojima's entire fanbase)

>>713887293 (OP)
I wonder if sam getting cucked by not-solid snake is actually kojima saying how he got cucked by konami.

>>713889838
>Stealth isn’t as good as MGSV
Stealth in MGSV isn't good

>>713903518
>There's no difference because you can fast travel with all items on the Magellan AKA the whole negative of FAST TRAVEL from the first game has been totally negated
So in other words you didn't even touch the game because not only can you not bring shit like animals on board but you instantly get the lowest rank possible if you try to make a delivery after teleporting
E33 is hot dogshit btw

>>713908119
this, snoystation 5 is filled with pajeets, woke americans and dude bros. they either don't know what's a good game or waste time on fifa, cod and gta. ironically they don't even support lgbt trash that caters to them like concord. if you're not PC+nintendo combo you're doing it wrong. kojima is using snoy engine so he probably has some obligations to fulfill unlike square enix which chose limited exclusivity for extreme greed to their own detriment.

>chinks trying to bring down this game on /v/ in favor of some French garbage
Talk about cucks

>>713913828
>shits on a completely different game out of nowhere

This is how you know Kojima cocksuckers are mentally ill.

kojima became the new popular to hate guy in entertainment after george lucas retired

>>713911601
It needed someone like Cliff

>>713903518
>Fast travel with cargo in a delivery sim.
The second I saw the "ship" pop out of the tar, next to some base and they started talking about submarine shit, I knew it was over.

Fast travel has killed entire genres, why do these retards still feal the need to ad it in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DuEBW64FYE

Atleast TRY to limit it like DS1, Risen/Gothic or so.
Even Fallout fkn 4, had semi immersive ways of fast travel....

Die Hardman
Sam Porter Bridges
Rocky the Rock
Robot the Cop

>pizza fight
>guitar fight
>v-tuber missions
i just wish more crazy shit like that would've happened.
felt like i was playing a no more heroes successor.

What is it about DS2 that is attracting some of the most insane and retarded doomposters I've seen in ages?
I saw you niggers here last night even claiming that the first game was a financial flop.
DS2 was just as good if not better than 1. You lost.

Is there any point to delivering lost cargo to a location that already has five stars?

>>713919040
It's an easy target since it's weird to begin with, and it's also a snoy exclusive which makes people seethe

>>713911776
empty world = small save file har har har
but genuinely the devs did an incredible job on the backend for this game, it looks and runs amazingly well

>>713917772
Mad DINGO

>>713910358
People who play games don't spend all day on forums arguing, they spend all day playing games

Is there any reason not to wear a battle skeleton at all times?

>>713917772
Peter & Englert
Cliff Unger
Amelie
Cliff and Amelie are probably the most offensively bad charactonyms in the game.

>>713887293 (OP)
I loved 1, probably won't play 2 simply because I hate vtubers that much :)

>>713887293 (OP)
First game was a niche title.
99.9% of the people interested in DS2 are the people who played the first game and even those, probably only half bought the game with the other half skipping it cause they hated DS1 for not being a metal gear solid game.

>>713887293 (OP)
What wrong with story? Was it terrible as ds1?

>>713923467
I'd say the Neil and Lucy stuff feels really weak in comparison to Mads, even if the new sections play way better

>>713920043
That's not the correct usage of backend. I think you mean engine, in this case.

>>713922213
>Interesting for DS1 fans
>Uninteresting for MGS fans
got that turned around.
Outside of the story, the gameplay is a knockoff of MGS and only MGSV fags /Kojimbo shills are enjoying it so far

I just started but I'm already rolling my eyes at Kojima's trademark lack of subtlety.
>sam we need you to hook up mexico's wifi
>uhhhh isn't this expanding the UCA border
>no its okay because its a private company :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the ship is named fucking Magellan

>>713887293 (OP)
>The reception is extremely lukewarm

probably because the first game was shit

>>713924059
>Outside of the story, the gameplay is a knockoff of MGS and only MGSV fags /Kojimbo shills are enjoying it so far

I don't remember MGSV being a walking sim. The problem with the game is the gameplay.

>>713924189
>MGSV isnt a walking sim with combat
tell me you never played it without telling me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMuTp3s5z_Y&t=5m

>>713924561
>2 minutes of walking
>10 minutes of actual gameplay
meanwhile DS2 is
>2 hours of walking
>30 minute movie
>10 minutes of actual gameplay

>>713924801
>it doesnt count because I say so
holding forward for 2 minutes sucks either way, without even the ballance system it sucks even more.
Never had a 2 hour delivery in 1, most take 5 minutes tops.
Dont know about 2 but since the first Mission is a combat mission I guess that didnt change much.
>Cutscenes,
Guess we better dont mention that the fans complained about the lack of cutscenes and how many previous games had

>>713924801
9:30 to 16:30
7 Minutes of walking in a game advertised as a walking sim vs 2 minutes of walking in a "stealth" game...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAX5ikvJa3w&t=570s

>>713887293 (OP)
Most people didn't give a shit about the first one either.

>>713924036
I suppose. In my mind the code would be the back and the gameplay/visual assets would be the front. I'm coming at this from a retail perspective rather than a technical one, where shelves and checkstands are frontend and ordering/pricing is backend. I thought it was equivalent to "under the hood".

>>713887521
There are a lot of blacks and Mexicans in your country.

>>713892479
>makes him look like solid snake
>doesn't do anything snake like
>Even gets KEKED
what did kojima mean by this..

>>713904540
>>713904303
anons suddenly got quiet
Every time with this shit I swear

This is the same narrative back when DS1 came out lol
A year or so from now /v/ will be glazing over the game, there's so many pcfags crying having to wait AGAIN to play a game. This shit is way too funny man.

>>713919040
Insecure slop 33 fanatics

>>713887521
you are dumb as fuck if you thought anything but this would happen in the US, the best game ever made could unknowingly release to a collective response of "irrelevant" by consolefags

I'm at chapter 6 now and I'm very disappointed in the game. It really doesn't do anything to iterate in death stranding, and I'm honestly waiting for there to finally be a reason that makes it makes sense why this game even exists. the initial story setup is dumb, dead lou in the pod that you don't even interact with feels incredibly tacked on and pointless, the Rainy chapter was literally nothing, and now I just beat the not-Cliff of this game and it feels like the game is just going through the exact same motions as before. I enjoyed death standing's gameplay, but this one is so vehicle centric it's kind of boring. and then there are many gadgets to play around with in theory, but the combat is so shallow and the AI so brain dead that none of these tools ever even feel valuable. you can just sit in a bush and bola gun one mule after the other as they come running to investigate. just as dumb as DS1 in that regard. and no, that isn't my idea of fun, so I am playing around with some stuff, but it fails to feel meaningful in any way. I'm unfortunately somewhat bored by this point.

>>713909085
It's movie game, what did you expect?

>>713906557
I just checked Amazon and it's still available to purchase

>>713887293 (OP)
Isn't there a gay sex scene? And you play that?
Embarrassing.

>>713926263
You pretty much just summarized most Kojima games.
Most recent examples for me were Peacewalker and MGSV.
Same game, but "new".
Too many toys, too little need or use.

>>713926263
I already beat it and I thought it was better than the first one. There is at least qol improvements like being able to take the backpack off. the graphics aren't even comparable.
The nightmare scenes, the dance scene which I guess you haven't seen yet, pekora, and all that other stuff is fun for me. I was totally wrong about how the plot would work in the game and the last few episodes were way outside what I expected.
For gameplay there are a lot of things like the catapult that I saw little use for in ds1 that have to be used in ds2. The monorail, at least in theory is great. I completed all 3 networks in my game before even finishing the story. But I haven't logged into the game again yet to start doing the post game grinding where it would actually be relevant, and I haven't even looked at the trophy list yet. I at least want to finish the roads and connect the last few shelters I missed.
I liked rainy and her story, it all fits really well into the world and theme of the game. Neil doesn't have the same charisma as Cliff, but that is because of the actors and nothing can be done about it. Mads Mikkelsen is one of the most charismatic actors. I guess you haven't gotten his full story yet but I thought it turned out pretty well.
At some point, you probably just have to say the game wasn't made for you.

>>713926263
But anon the skeleton is given to you during chapter 1 and you have access to vehicles in chapter 2. There's never been any real challenge, Kojima wanted to tell a story and wanted to create something new with the gameplay, the entire LIKE and world construction is interesting but it was never fully realized. Kojima needs a gameplay man

>>713926859
I thought Neil was very cool, maybe even better than Cliff, but I see that a lot of people did not like him

>>713894047
>normalfags would rather play nbashit than vidya
More news at 11

>>713927207
it's kind of hard to beat a father son story with a messy romance story.

>>713892325
hayter is fucking dogshit and I'm tired of this revisionist reddit bullshit.

>>713897613
they'll hang pedophile faggots like you alongside the trannies, mark my words.

>>713928023
Yeah he's so bad, you can recognize his voice unlike all the other voice actor that whispers on the same tone
>is that a texan accent?!?! 10/10 voi e acting wwaaahahahshwkzahaoah!
kill youseLf Nolan North and The other fag that speaks exactly like him and sucks even worst

>>713887293 (OP)
Kojima is a hack and auteurship is for insufferable faggots

>show character riding badass sci-fi unicycle
>you cant unlock it to use in deliveries
fuck you jimbo you fucking piece of shit. would have been too fun, and we wouldnt want that now would we you fartsniffing faggot

>>713887293 (OP)
>Americants get filtered... again.
Every fucking time.

only a few issues with the game
1 you should be able to accept orders and put them on the monorail right away. But the game forces you to take cargo off the shelf.
2. they should have changed carrying in hands to make it more useful. sam needs to strafe more and turn less or switch to 2 stick character control (lock the camera). Like the first game it's useless because of the way he turns. the delay in loading on the back of the truck is unnescesary and the line sam says every time you do it is so annoying.
3. A bigger truck was missing from the first game and it's even more needed in this game. there should be an open truck that you can park in the garage and upgrade, and a trailer or a bigger box truck for long hauls. they could make it turn slow to compensate + make a few of a the road routes wider. That way it wouldn't be abused.
4. the whole motherhood with the men bad thing. it doesn't go anywhere and sticks out like a sore thumb

>>713903578
It's going to come to PC regardless.

>>713929179
true, and you just know every seething comment ITT was made by deranged mutt

>>713906557
I just checked Amazon, and the top selling game is Donkey Kong Bananza.

>>713929179
Americans are the only ones defending this lol

>>713887293 (OP)
It's embarrassing how everyone is pretending they like this shit game.

It's kinda like conservatives pretending that Trump is a genius.

It's already out?

I did watch the IGN review giving it a 9, but I barely saw anyone talking about it. Figured it's just not out yet.

>>713926196
And yet the story-driven games continue to release as timed exclusives for consoles

>>713929854
>DS haters are obsessed with trump

>>713887293 (OP)
it’s not out yet

It's not on PC so I can't bring myself to care yet

See you in a year or so.

>>713887293 (OP)
The total duration of the cutscenes in this game is nearly 3 hours shorter than in the first installment (Director's Cut). Why?

It was pretty obvious from the trailers that hideo sniffed one too many of his own farts on this one

>>713931553
>that hideo sniffed one too many of his own farts on this one
That would imply there isn't a time when kojimbo isn't huffing his own farts already

Its full of DEI woke girl power bullshit. Its fucking pathetic. Some of the worst writing for a video game story I have ever seen.

>>713906256
What is this faggotry?

>>713931807
only the motherhood was bad

>>713925684
Yeah, I assumed. It pretty much is. I'm just nitpicking :=)

I played Death Stranding about 2 years after it released and deeply loved it. Was really looking forward to playing the sequel on release to experience structuring the world with other players but holy shit it fucking bothers me how i don't have to put in any effort. I had so much fun building roads in death stranding but right now i can't even do that because the roads just build themselves. It's completely absurd to say this but i would enjoy this game a lot more if less fucking people were playing it. As soon as i connect a location to the network all the important structures just pop out of the ground. Aside from that i'm enjoying the game a lot, but i wish i could restrict how much other players interact with my world.

>>713887293 (OP)
>start game
>prentiousness dialed up to 11
>sam is suddenly a cuckold with a cheating girlfriend and for 90% of the game you are let to believe his daughter is not his
>unironic gay sex scenes
>vtuber tranny shit forced on you because she's the only weapons dealer in the game
>snake brought back only to cuck sam with his wife
>and then he dies anyway
>HEY GUYS ITS ME DIE HARDMAN REMEMBER ME IM BACK *stards gay dancing*
>final boss is just another cinematic press X to awesome """""""""fight""""""""" with higgs and nothing else

its the joker 2 of videogames unironically, and I can see that being deliberate because kojima likes joker 2

>>713934035
Sounds awful

>>713934035
>sam is suddenly a cuckold
He always was a cuckold. He spends the entire first game looking after a baby he has no reason to believe is his.

>>713934035
Sam was already a cuck in DS1

>>713887293 (OP)
Sony being the usual retards and not releasing on PC again

>>713934035
the only good thing about this game is that you don't have to death with the stupid ass crying baby anymore, I never liked that mechanic, fuck human kids they are disgusting

>>713887293 (OP)
I'm more confused than anything by the release date. We went from the trailer three months ago to "lol it's out now". I'm so used to first looks being a couple years before launch that it's almost jarring to have it all in such close proximity, even if we did know work was being done a few years ago.

>>713887293 (OP)
>The reception is extremely lukewarm.
So was 1's...

>>713887293 (OP)
ps5 userbase iq below 15 so when kojima comes along with a 120 iq move new type strand game it's over for them

>>713934034
>The roads just build themselves
Either my game glitched or the online connectivity is insane. I was walking towards a cliff, and WHAM, a bridge materialized before me. Shit was funny but also unexpected. Yeah I gave it a like. His name was Sam too.

>>713934035
Don't forget the gay mouth to mouth tentacle rape sex scene between Higgs and Sam.

I’d really like to know what game the reviewers think they’re playing. I don’t see how anyone can put this above a 7/10.

First game was pretty disappointing, so there was no fuckin way I was gonna buy the second one.

I played it and it just felt like a rehash of the first game so far, like it could have just been a DLC for the first game. Disappointed desu

I liked the 1st game, but no way am I ponying up for a Goystation 5. PC release, maybe, we'll see.

>>713917772
And Jambie the Genie

>>713938793
and the blue meanie

It’s just the same critical reception as Baldurs Gate 3 and all the same problems.

I swear, if you just give normies voice acting and emotional cutscenes, it’s GOTY. Any game. The game could be a Nazi cuckold simulator where you bomb transgender Palestinians in your Body Type 1, and as long as it had voice acted cutscenes, it would be GOTY.

>>713934034
yeah it's retarded that Kojambo's gone backwards from MGSV (and really all of his earlier games) and doesn't allow you to choose an immoral path for a different set of risks and rewards. like maybe you could set traps for other players rather than just helpful structures at the possibility of getting some of their dropped items but at the risk of your reputation going down

All this gay plot discussion is great and all but what about new mechanics and systems? It has more delivery hazards than what they showed on the trailers?

What about new gear, I saw the floating board, are there more interesting stuff that wasn't showed on the trailers?

>>713896815
Bad timing most likely, Konami was having a restructuring during that time and it didn't help that the new CEO was hellbent on going all in on pachinko, gacha and mobile games

>>713939554
>what about new mechanics and systems? It has more delivery hazards than what they showed on the trailers
Anon... I...

>Death Stranding 1 comes out
>/v/ calls it a movie game and says MGS is better (even though MGS actually is a movie game series except MGSV lol)
>It's not a movie game, and has great, satisfying gameplay
>Death Stranding 2 comes out
>/v/ calls it a movie game
So am I supposed to believe you faggots this time?

>>713941554
the 2 in death stranding 2 means +2 hours of cutscenes
it's not a movie game it's a 5 movie game

>>713887293 (OP)
I'm just waiting for the PC release, fuck ps5

>>713941737
this
getting the PC release same with Pragmata and Onimusha

Didn't the first game get a similar reception at launch cause of platform exclusivity as well?
As in barely anyone fucking played it because it was on a platform nobody owns.

>>713940038
So...nothing new?

Kojima is a hack

>>713887293 (OP)
People are sick of PS5 exclusives, and are waiting for it to come to Steam.

>>713887293 (OP)
can't see it on steam m8

I don't like the online aspect of this game. Interacting with equipment and buildings is boring. Likes are boring.

It's just reminds me how heavy singleplayer focused the game is.

Once Sam Porter dies maybe we get to create our own Porter and actually see Porters in a massive online universe. Maybe in DS3. Who knows.

>exclusive comes out
>Steamshitters fill the thread

The worst fucking playerbase in all of gaming.

Lmfao

>>713942903
Retard

>>713943041
Uh oh, Kojima did a stinky!

>>713887293 (OP)
Bought the deluxe version.

Want a spoiler?

Tomorrow is Lou and Fragile dies so no happy ending for Sam with a beautiful family

I am so fucking mad... Kojima spent way too much time with Druckmann.

>>713943430
Figured Fragile was a goner ever since we saw her kiss Sam in the trailer, classic death flag.

>>713943430
lou dies as well which is a good thing because the crying baby was the worst part about DS lol

He made absolute Ludo kino again. He better make DS3 after that what he showed.

>>713944903
>Rocks shaped like butt spread
Woah

>>713887293 (OP)
Is it worth it to play the Director's Cut version of the first game (I only played the base game on release) or can I just skip straight to 2 without missing anything important?

>>713887293 (OP)
Funny how Hackjima paid tons of money for Hollywood actors yet best performance is from Troy Baker, a voice actor. LMAO.

>>713913828
I'm playing on brutal and getting s /LLL rank for everything. There are like 2 deliveries in the story that don't let you use fast travel. The game world is beautifully done and I definitely noticed the dynamic elements of areas changing with no bts or floods happening the problem is that none of it matters. You never need container spray even on the 1 mission where moving a vog container if you take a single break away from it to recover health you can just continue easily. You never need the oxygen mask because there's two tiny areas in the game it applies and you can walk through them before you die. The auto drive upgrade doesn't let you boost and you still get driven through areas where autodrive cuts off multiple times meaning it's only ever on for a short time. You have multiple of the same weapon except one is lightweight meaning it takes up slightly less space but the difference is none in reality. You can lug around metals to build a bridge but you can just walk or drive through most and most important bridges are built for you already, same with chargers and watch towers built at every single relevant point. Ds1 was at least slightly harder in requiring even the smallest amount of prep because if you didn't then missions would be a slog and take 3x longer but in ds2 you don't need to think about anything. They've smoothed every challenge out for normiebux this time and it shows

>>713942421
Not really. Death Stranding 1 filled the /v/ catalog for 2 weeks straight after release. With DS2 getting basically no discussion, I assume that DS1 only got a lot of buzz because it was Kojimbo's first game post-Konami and people were excited to see what he could do without "being held back". However now that people know it's more of the same, no one cares anymore.