Thread 713915873

>>713915873 (OP)
Old just looks like a toy, while the new one looks like an animal.

To be honest I like big-ass walking crocodile over Trex with a fan.

The new one looks cooler.

>>713915873 (OP)
Stretching the truth is sometimes beneficial to make kids interesting in things that may otherwise seem boring. Not everything in life has to be super accurate, it's more important to keep people invested, rather than to bore them to death with colorless facts.

>>713915873 (OP)
Blue and red are not good colors to hide in nature

>>713916023
Your point being

>>713915873 (OP)
I see you ignorant nignogs are not up to date with the latest update

>>713916048
>big-ass walking crocodile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tih6uh2Xqk

>>713916303
Why did you post such an unrelated gif with that? Now I just think you only want things to be to your taste because it gets your dick hard.

>>713916701
Who can stop him?

>>713915873 (OP)
Top is better

>>713916701
What the fuck? Wasn't Spino always known to be aquatic?
At least as far as I remember even as a kid he seemed aquatic to me

>>713915873 (OP)
top looks cooler honestly

>>713916804
entered this thread specifically to post this image, thank you for your service to the paleo community, anon

>>713917154
The portrayal in JP3 was accurate to what they thought at the time. Semi-aquatic therapod. Shortly after the movie released they found more bones.

>>713916804
>>713917870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1EgnMrIN9c

>>713918298
Alan?!?

>>713918376
Why is he using a nerf gun against them?

>>713916303
That's giving paleotology-niggers far too much credit. These fags know exactly what they're doing when they spew a bunch of bullshit without any evidence. They're counting on odds being in their favor that no one will ever find that 1 in a billion specimen that disproves their shit, at least not during their lifetime. Same shit happens in archaeology, although those niggers can at least be called brazen when they make up bullshit
>"Yes all contemporary sources say x."
>"We think it was actually y though, they were x propagandists."
>"What's that? My evidence?"
>"Woah woah woah, where is this antisemitism coming from?"

>>713916804
GROK
IS DIZ FKNG REEL?

>>713918665
yeh

>>713915873 (OP)
It's something about the posture and the neck that's offensive to me, but I wouldn't mind a more "accurate" spinosaur being around so long as the JP3 spino isn't erased. Also, its colors are quite bland compared to JP3's spino

>>713917154
the first specimen of spinosaurus was treated more or less like a tyrannosaurus with a sail it was really incomplete. it was also destroyed in world war 2. there wasn't much significant new research on spinosaurus until the 90s. its skull made it apparent it ate fish and then later they discovered stuff like its short legs which gave more evidence that it waded a lot and wasn't competing at all with carcharodontosaurus for prey. there's still debate over whether it was a good swimmer or not

>>713918978
The JP3 spino is just a Baryonyx with a sail. Just say it was a hybrid.

>>713919184
Whatever the fuck it is, it looks cool as hell so that's why I like JP3's Spino. Simple as.

>>713919184
so Irritator

>>713918574
I'm ware they like to make up bullshit and try to twist their ideology into it until it is disproven, it's a very annoying game and they wonder why kids are only interested in being Youtubers and Twitch Streamers or TikTokers. It's ridiculous and smells a little zionist.

>>713916970
I like bunnies.

>>713915873 (OP)

T-Rex just ate nuts and berries and looked like a chicken, now shut up and eat your slop, kid, I need to finish taking my hormone treatments.

New spino is kino

>>713915873 (OP)
I like them both. I prefer the JP3 slightly more.

>>713918376
Should have used a Marlin.

>>713919659
oops forgot image

>>713919705
dinos would be easy to kill even with a pistol because of hollow bones

I haven't seen Rebirth. But I watched cartoon JW Chaos Theory just the other day by re-subbing to Kikeflix. I hadn't known they had made a sequel animated series after Camp Cretaceous.
On a matter
Considering JWE 2 is like full price before DLC, is it worth it or it's just better to wait for JWE3 to come out?

>>713915873 (OP)
Jurassic World has such abysmal fucking designs it's genuinely embarassing
Redditor shills trying to pretend that the nu spinosaurus isn't just this piece of absolute dogshit but with a sail are just coping

>>713915873 (OP)
Top is literally the cucked slave of another animal (rape and kill whoever wrote the new movie)
Bottom kills tyrannosaurs for fun

>>713919927
I would wait, the modular building alone makes it worth it

>>713918376
source? one of those "new" JP movies?

>>713915873 (OP)
I like the new one too. It's an alligator, but somehow faster

>muh dinosaur accuracy!
So when are they gonna give us the midget sub-2 foot tall Velociraptors?

>>713919827
It looks like it got cucked by a T-Rex and was called a faggot by a snickering Velociraptor.
.

>>713918461
Nerf or nothin'

>>713915873 (OP)
There have been MANY Crocodile-like animals throughout history Spino was only discovered to follow a similar pattern that most amphibious carnivores do. see: Dimetrodon, Deinosuchus, Carnufex

much like the design of a crab or shark a crocodile is actually a ubiquitous shape that various different types of creatures have evolved to fit into

Thailand atm

>>713920072
Yes

>big, terrifying bipedal crocodile

>trex with a hat

>>713920325
God damn it, thanks.

>>713919528
Why are you making up things to be upset about

Why not make the fake spino and the accurate spino fight eachother and other shit. Nothing is stopping them from existing in the same media or whatever.

every minion in Dungeon Keeper 2

>>713920321
Is this real?

>>713920225
Spino autists are so cringe stg

>>713920615
Is this what they call Spinotism?

>>713920615
>trannies who shill the nu designs hate spinosaurus
makes perfect sense

>>713920564
Cause old spino would rip the new one apart like paper

>So what if you can see the darkest side of me?
>No one would ever change this animal I have become
>Help me believe it's not the real me
>Somebody help me tame this animal (This animal, this animal)

>>713920724
>>713920714

see
>>>212116927

>>713916023
>video game character looks like a toy

WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE A NEGATIVE YOU FUCKWIT

>>713918376
That "shooting" looks god awful
>Yeah just shake it a little, the CGI muzzleflash will make it look convincing

>>713918376
HE'S FAST

>>713919837
dinos don't have hollow bones you gay retard

>67 posts in
>not one "dinosaurs aren't real post"
>thread hasn't completely fallen into pointless arguing
something isn't right or is it just too early

>>713920225
>let me just swim away from the t-rex of the water, surely my little human limbs are faster than its gigantic fucking fin tail

>>713923078
Dinosaurs aren't real, but to be fair nothing is real except me

>>713918376
convinced me to watch not for the dino action but because HOLY SHIT PLEASE TELL ME HER TITS JIGGLE LIKE THAT THE WHOLE MOVIE

>>713916348
Yeah, because it was literally a man made monster.

>>713923078
did someone forget to turn their bot on

>>713918376
>giant barn sized target 30 meters away moving slowly
>misses every shot

My FUARKING hero

>>713920225
I love that in canon the jp3 spino is still at large and is essentially a dinosaur terminator that's too angry at its existence to die

>>713919941
To me the problem with the world's dinos is the lack of colors, they're trying to emulate cocodrilian's grayish colors when birds and other reptiles are actually very colorful

>>713923671
This is why you don't skip leg day

>>713923256
kek that's taken straight from the books except I think there was 2 of thewm

>>713923432
I thought she got a reduction. Maybe she grew new ones?

>>713916804
I KNEEL

>>713918574
>"the jews gave dinosaurs feathers to make kids not think they were cool" (which will destroy the white man somehow)

>>713924110
He's playing :)

>>713924110
I love how they made him so fucking bulky.

was this really necessary?

>>713924110
>giant fucking t-rex teleports away after a raft covers it for 1 second
What is this Looney Toons garbage?

>>713925184
Someone has to die.

>>713916303
i NEED to know what this kind of UI is called

>>713925184
Yes, and it was hot.

>>713916804
>he doesn't know

>>713918376
So whats up with the nerf gun? Why don't they use actual guns? Jurassic Park used to have actual guns what happened?

As a huge JP3 fan its funny how people complain about this because realistically both versions are probably very far from the truth, I see it more as a monster movie than something based off historical evidence. That said, they should have kept the old design like they kept the raptors

I don't think dinosaurs were real

>>713924110
How much food would a T-Rex have to eat each day? It always seems crazy to me when it chases humans for extended periods, like a lion spending half its day trying to jumpscare a couple ants to death

>>713915873 (OP)
looks good to me

>>713916589
>we're not making a monster movie
fucking lie for every jurassic park, all of them
None of them behave like animals ever, all of them always behave as movie characters
>>713916804
this is cool too, all the types of seal are rad and convergent evolution is neat when its not just dumbass crabs

>>713927346
You're right, a T Rex probably wouldn't chase after humans. They probably weren't as fast as JP portrays them as and a human is too small a meal for something its size. It'd probably rather not expend energy chasing down something that's basically a chicken nugget to it. So yeah, it's not very likely that a T Rex would go out of its way to eat you (unless you stood still like a retard because you thought the "vision based on movement" stuff was accurate).

>>713918376
>gigantic 3 to 4 ton animal breaches the water, latches onto a dude to drag him back in
>somehow he holds onto the side of a fucking boat long enough for a le spooky scene against more than six thousand pound animal that's actively going back beneath the surface
>BUT WEZ NOT MAKING HORROR MONSTERS
Fucking garbage. If a goddamned killer whale decides to drag you beneath the waves you're going to die

>>713928186
Killer whales don't attack humans. There has never been a witness to any of our attacks, so it's clear that they're very friendly to people

>>713928358
"Killer" whales only attack brown people, very racist animals!

>>713928186
>3 to 4 ton
It's like 7 tons which makes it even worse, the second it hits the boat it should capsize

>>713927973
>>713927973
>fucking lie for every jurassic park, all of them
Eh, the first one had a fairly realistic portrayal of what actual dinosaur behavior would have been like, except for the constant roaring of course. When the Rex broke out of its paddock, the way it investigated the car and its surroundings felt like something an animal raised in a paddock its whole life would do. And the way it ambushed those galimimus is fairly accurate animal behavior. And when it was chasing the jeep, it gave up on the hunt once it realized it couldn't keep up (unlike the relentless bipedal crocdile from JP3)

The only exception was the raptors. Those creatures were deragned psychopaths placed inside the body of a dromeosaur.

>>713928358
Get your flippers off the keyboard

>>713918376
>manages to hold onto the door while being dragged away by a fucking giant dinosaur
I can already tell this movie is pure dogshit from this snippet alone
If you like this shit you need to die

>>713920303
That's because crocodilians are natures perfection and if we ever find complex life on another planet I guarantee you we'll find a copy cat there. Fuckers are just too efficient since everything has to drink water at some point

>>713928521
What a weird post
>the first one had realistic animal behavior, except for the velociraptors
Dude, Rexy and the Raptors are the only types of creatures that really matter in that movie. So 50% of the relevant species are a horror movie cliche

>>713926060
>hot
woman getting hurt and vored?

>>713927346
Most of the macropredators in jurassic park movies wouldn't give a shit about eating humans unless they actively walked into its jaws. Its like a nile crocodile launching itself at a pigeon, just not worth the effort. However something like T-rex was probably smart enough to be curious and like most mouths with legs would investigate its curiosity with a shitload of force.

>>713918376
Gareth Edwards has never made a good movie in his life, this isn't about to change

>>713928358
They don't but if they did you'd be dead. Like >>713928483 says its actually worth 2 killer whales in weight, the idea that you can hang on just for the fucking cinematic stereotype is shit. Its not a xenomorph that a couple times stronger than a human its a fucking juggernaut of muscle and bone.
>>713928521
Nedry dying to the dilo jumpscare after it gets into the car is horror movie shit. The majority of the film is about the raptors which is horror movie monster shit. Only rex kind of behaves like an animal but only for the first one because in all the subsequent ones they don't know whether to make it the horror monster or treat it as though its a hero against mankind's arrogance which doesn't work all in the same movie. Godzilla has to be good or bad in a film and can't flip flop.

>>713928647
The raptors are canonically outliers in their psychopathic behavior. It's made a big point that those things do not act natural.

>>713929158
The novel, as usual, does a much better job at hammering in the point that the raptors are genuinely psychotic, especially in the scene where two adults wander in a lab and find a baby they kept in a nursery only to then tear it to shreds

>>713916804
this looks dumb and retarded

>>713928521
>(unlike the relentless bipedal crocdile from JP3)
The spino wasn't chasing them out of hunger, it was because they rammed it with a fucking plane

>>713929915
that doesn't really help your case when you bring up that a plane smashed into the giant sail that connects directly with its spine and its completely fine

>>713930102
The blades sliced it's shoulder and they narrowly avoided it, they never show the plane just barreling through the sail
Besides the retarded notion that the entire animal just fucking dies like a boss after you hit it's weakpoint when it's sail gets damaged never made any sense

>>713928939
>Gareth Edwards
Sigh... I can't believe I'm going to watch a, may Allah forgive me for uttering this name, Jurassic Park™ movie...

>>713916804
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>713930238
Yeah people are always chasing after their attackers after getting their spine shattered

>>713920303
Crocodiles are ambush predators of large mammals, Spino has fish eater set up
>muh gharial!
That still evolved from ambush predator of megafauna

>>713930238
the sail is literally a bunch of bones that are directly connected to its spine
big impacts to the sail could injure or even break its back

>>713916023
and? Jurassic Park 1 had SHIT tons of merch, even in the fucking movie!

>>713930386
But it didn't get it spine shattered, are you retarded or just brown?

Was he an aura farmer?

>all the predators are 5 stories tall, meaning they can only get enough food by eating other giant animals
So just evolve to be tiny? Why didn't this happen? Is it because Darwinism is fake?

>>713929915
So out of revenge, which again makes it more of a monster than an animal.

>>713930604
>Be tiny
>Get eaten by predator bigger than you

>>713930575
>But it didn't get it spine shattered
Because the filmmakers did not model it as an actual spinosaurus

>>713930632
Animals hold grudges, ravens will literally remember the faces of people who fucked with them and form gangs to attack them in a swarm out of revenge, the orcas from SeaWorld also killed very specific people who constantly abused them
Again most "muh real animal behaviour" faggots know jack shit about how animals think and function

>>713928358
>There has never been a witness to any of our attacks
>our attacks

>>713918376
enough about the spinosaurus, just post a compilation of that girls tits

>>713930796
Ravens have 570 times the brain size relative to body size of a dinosaur

>>713928358
>There has never been a witness to any of our attacks

>>713930943
you don't need that high of a brainpower to hold grudges, just look at the blacks

is this a good popcorn sloppa? I really only go to the theatre to get popcorn anymore.

>>713931189
How do you take yours?

>first boss the players discovered gets called the king
>it keeps getting patched to keep its title
Few things have been funnier than how spot on the name was when every couple years a new even bigger animal is dug up to slide its potential max size up even more

>>713928358
>our attacks
are you single

>>713931310
I like to layer the fake butter in the popcorn and a bit of salt. The new kinoplex near me has self-serve popcorn dispensers.

>>713930604
different climate and oxygen levels
higher oxygen% = bigger lifeforms

>>713925184
For my penis, yes
Thematically, no

>>713924110
why do they always put in so much effort chasing tiny morsels of food, are they just racist towards humans or what

>>713927346
>>713928084
>>713928785
Based on the closest living ancestor (crocodilians) large dinosaurs wouldn't spend the energy chasing a human. If you walked up to it like a retard and it could snap you up effortlessly, then you'd absolutely be dead, but something like a Tyrannosaurus would want to gorge itself on an equivalently-sized organism and then probably not eat for several weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHPzLG6gwu0

The most dangerous dinosaur to a human being would be things of similar size, such as the Dilophosaurus or Utahraptor. Dilophosaurus in particular is believed to be extremely vicious and durable, as their teeth marks are the best fit for fossilized prey that sustained enormous injury (more than would be necessary to kill it.) They would probably be the physical equivalent of an emu except it can actually decide you're edible.

>>713915873 (OP)
Hey, my ex-friend loves dinosaurs!
>>713920991
Hey, my ex-friend loves that song!

Is this some kind of sign?

>>713915873 (OP)
OG is a dogshit design. T-rex with a dinky, stupid looking sail taped on.

New has issues but much cooler shapes overall. Needs a longer, thinner neck.

I don't think we'll ever really know what the spinosaur's deal was. Near as I can tell, the conditions it was in made it impossibly unlikely for any remains to still be around in modern times, so the few pieces we do have are pretty much miracles. We might find a few more bones eventually, but this shit might be fucked.

>>713932418
the skeleton's rare but the teeth are extremely common
there's a shale bed in morocco that is unearthing metric fucktons of them; you can go buy them for twenty bucks

>>713932146
>obese tube
>"cooler shapes"
Shit opinion

>>713931348
Goliath was fucking huge. Like 12-13 tons. It's funny how back when Jurassic Park came out, the Rex in that (7 tons) was considered oversized.

>>713932418
>I don't think we'll ever really know what the spinosaur's deal was
It's a big fucking lizard that ate fish and really wanted to be a crocodile and also had kaiju fights with carcharodontosaurus, there's really not much else to it
More bones of it were found than you'd first think, it's not like the holotype the jews blew up is still the only fossil ever found of it.

>>713932809
Tail and sail are far more visually interesting. Lengthening and slimming the neck down would address the tube issues, which I already said sucked.

Still better than the boring ass JP3 design.

We DESERVED picrel. The gatorduck is an amazing design with its slim head and long neck.

>>713924110
So we're finally getting the river ride adapted, still don't think it's looking good but that's neat

>>713931348
>fragmentary bullshit that will get downsized the second another bone is found
>again
Meh, all of these "biggest theropod EVERRRR!!" fossils never matter in the long run

>>713933096
It's just like the novel except boring and shitty and there's no blood, gore, violence, horror themes or any sort of stakes
I absolutely adore hollywood raping franchises into the dirt and then continuing to rape their ghost once the corpse is turned to dust

>>713933032
The head is fucking dogshit, it has more in common with the awful baryonyx design they made than the real spinosaur, not to mention the awful piss color
They set out to make a more realistic design and they wound up with something that somehow feels less natural and like a real animal than the completely inaccurate JP3 one

>>713931746
The dilophosaurus scene from the novel is pure nightmare fuel.

>>713933282
I don't disagree with the head and neck being shit. The rest of it is better. JP3 has a garbage head, okay neck, and boring ass body and tail. The new one isn't perfect but its steps up.

>>713933173
new basedjak dropped

>>713916303
What's the gif from?

>>713931746
>They would probably be the physical equivalent of an emu
Nowhere near close, it's fucking massive

It's honestly a pity that Carcharodontosaurus barely gets any media representation. Whenever writers want a T Rex, but think it's too cliche, they choose some of the most random dinos imaginable
>Ice Age: Baryonyx
>Disney's Dinosaurs: Carnotaurus
I mean these guys are cool and I'm glad they get attention, but their sizes are heavily exaggerated. A real life carno or baryonyx wouldn't stand a chance against a Rex. O'm pretty sure Disney admitted that the carnotaurus skeleton at disneyland is a carnotaur head mounted on T Rex torso. Meanwhile Carcharodontosaurus can get close to Rex sizes sometimes.

>>713931746
Utahraptor would be terrifying to encounter in real life. The closest thing we have to a real life JP raptor.

>>713933782
Real niggas remember him from the best dinosaur park manager game

...Spino?

>>713933856
>The closest thing we have to a real life JP raptor.
That's deinonychus and even then it's a stretch, Utahraptor is also a bad match because it's like twice the mass of the JP raptors and was built entirely for brawn over speed or agility, basically a miniature budget T-rex

For me? Tarbosaurus.

>>713933782
>the carnotaurus skeleton at disneyland
Wtf is this lmao

>>713934024
>>713933856
I think Achillobator is the closest thing to a JP sized raptor.

>>713918298
>a dinosaur rides a bike while falling to its doom
This is so fucking cool and erotic.

Human beings smell petrichor better than sharks do blood

>>713933782
I think he's a cool guy.

>>713934234
It's based off this guy. Kino villain btw
https://youtu.be/CBBIa8vbPr8?feature=shared&t=95

>>713933876
This nigga's roar was so good, I loved Acro too

>>713935017
They were good friends.

I am a fan of Prehistoric Kingdom's Rex design. I think it's even better than Prehistroic Planet's design.

>>713935331
Dammit, here's a bigger pic

>>713935196
>dino anus is perfectly preserved
>it was a multipurpose hole
This article CAN'T be real.

>>713935331
>>713935435
>no feathers

>>713935196
>The dinosaur's derrière is so well preserved, researchers could see the remnants of two small bulges by its "back door," which might have housed musky scent glands that the reptile possibly used during courtship
OMFG! It's real.

>>713918376
>holds on to door
yes i saw it too but lets be real this is a dino slasher film at best and if you take it super seriously you are autistic

>>713935469
The article is misleading on purpose for clicks, its just talking about a cloaca which actually was perfectly preserved

>>713935331
>Prehistoric Planet
Has anyone else here watched that show? If so, am I the only one who's not a fan of the design of the Rex? He looks like he's diabetic or something. T Rex was robust, not fat lmao. Also his legs look too short and his face a tad narrow.

>>713936481
I already knew it was a cloaca. The fact that it was perfectly preserved is what shocked me, along with that title. kek
Dino bioengineered onaholes when?

>>713936528
I liked it. They all felt less like lizards and more like their own animal.

>>713915873 (OP)
Nah, I prefer the redesign. Big croc on steroids vs "just another t-rex but with a sail"

>>713921580
it's a harpoon gun anon. do they even flash?

>>713918376
holy shit look at those BOOOBS

>>713915873 (OP)
Only thing I'd change from top is making him properly quadrupedal instead of this weird ass quasi-bipedal halfway to quadrupedel shit.
Did they retcon the shitty looking knuckledragging yet?

>>713935471
you can turn on the feathers
those devs are gonna take forever to make a complete game but they sure know how to make a cool looking dinosaur

>dinosaur shows up
>It's hungry
>Instead of pouncing eating the heroes immediately like an animal would it...
>Roars in their face and gives them 3 seconds to quip and start running

Yes, the dinosaurs primary objective is to scare it's prey, secondary to maybe catch it, so long as it's definitely scared them

>>713918376
>Trained enough to respond to an attack from his flank
>Not trained enough to actually move, point his weapon at the emergent danger and engage

I fucking hate Hollywood man

>>713918376
god i wish that was me

>>713937549
bears do this doe, thoughts?

>>713937906
Bears do it to warn threats away.

"I am big and scary, but not hungry. This is my house. Leave pls."

Which would be an actual reasonable scenario to throw into a scene in any JP movie.

>>713937906
they dont roar at salmon

>>713938118
>>713938323
but they do roar at, then kill and eat, people

>>713925184
>this scene was storyboarded for the death sequence for the villain if the cancelled Trespasser successor "Jurassic WORLD"
>JW Movie uses almost all of the concept work set up by the cancelled game and just gives this gruesome death to some random lady

>>713938370
because we are taller than them
are you taller than a tyrannosaurus rex

Dominion is one of the worst movies I've ever seen

>>713938538
>are you taller than a tyrannosaurus rex
nice try but i wouldn't ever reveal that i'm a diplodocus because we can't use the internet or keyboards

>>713937906
Not really, unless you're talking about them doing that during the attack process. (Roaring while taking a swipe at you)
>>713937549
The most hilarious example of this was JP3 where the Spino waited behind the main characters until the phone started ringing and they turned around and noticed it. It might as well said "Surprise!" in a reptilian voice right then and there.
https://youtu.be/_35vuv4htIw?si=t7ubULNqXs0L6sgT

>>713915873 (OP)
Trex would fuck this lanky bitch up

>>713938436
I feel like this is retarded. There's a rule of cool, but it's completely obliterated when this fat bitch can somehow outrun them for 5KM.

For me? Mononykus

>>713918376
Honest question, how do you retards still watch movies like this? I haven't see a movie in like 16 years and this clip reminds me why.

But holy shit, this is legit stupid. How does the cattle consoom this? How does someone have such low self awareness that they would go and see this?

Just amazing. The slave class astounds me

>>713938835
You play video-games you obnoxious cuck KEK

>>713915873 (OP)
>looks like a gator now
lame

>>713938782
basado

>>713937906
Bears really only roar at other bears. When bears want to spook other animals they either stand silently on their hind legs to look big, or they just bolt straight at you in a charge.

Name the franchise

>>713938891
>retard thinks people on /v/ play video games

Holy fuck go back. No wait. Kill yourself immediately

>>713938685
how the fuck do you even see the keyboard bro

>>713939051
I accept your cuckcession

>>713938757
Yeah it's silly, the game didn't get too far into production before getting canned. But a bunch of it's pre production work was used for the first World movie.

>>713938757
(in high heels)

>>713916701
>>713916804
>>713919319
Evolution is just a theory.

>>713939150
That was retarded, but outrunning the raptors seemed more retarded. It was falling over everything like Ghostface too. So cringe

>>713939212
Go back to /tv/

>>713939436
I miss doge and buff doge memes so much.

>>713938545
The final scene was something alright. It's funny how they imply that the Rex retained memories from 65 million years ago which gave her the boost to rise back up and keep fighting the Giganotosaurus.

>>713939529
I'm not even there yet. I'm like 90 minutes in

>>713938972
That is Wolfenstein>DOOM>DOOM 2016

>>713938689
>busts through 2 foot diameter steel fencing with anti-bear spikes with about 30 feet of run up
>can barely shake a shitty 2 inch iron door

>>713939436
I know this is a meme but T Rex is unironically of the dinos that actually got cooler as more discoveries were made. Went from a sluggish giant lizard to
>Largest known terrestrial carnivore, even larger than we thought (Goliath discovery suggests that it might have weighed up to 13 tons)
>Bite force of up to 12800 psi
>Eyesight that might have been even better than that of a hawk
>Instead of a generic roar, it made cool, creepy, alien sounding guttural rumbles.
>Feathers theory was dropped anyways since the animal would probably overheat if it had feathers.

>>713922863
Yes they did. It's part of why they could get so big without collapsing under their own weight (and why birds are light enough to fly). Mammals don't get as big as Dinosaurs did because our thicker bones put a stricter weight limit on size. Ironically this trait reverses in the water, where Mammals with their easier to blast bones can reach enormous sizes and Dinosaurs/Birds don't have any truly aquatic species at all, only some small sized surface skimmers and divers like Penguins and Ducks who still have to live on land.
The other trait that allows dinosaurs to reach larger sizes (or fly) than mammals is how their lungs are set up. Dinos/birds have a series of air sacks around their lungs that basically fill them up like a balloon, keeping them light weight for large size or flight, while also allowing them to more easily distribute oxygen across massive bodies than mammal lungs.

Thoughts on the Retardosaurus?

>>713939562
They're all taking turns damaging the Giganatasaurus. Black woman took a shot, Chris Pratt is stabbing it, fat American woman is tasing it, etc. I wish I turned this shit off 5 minutes ago. 90 minutes ago. I need to turn this shit off. Why even bring Dobson back? Why is he the CEO of Apple? Man

>>713939802
whoever designed the cloverfield monster should be hanged for making every fucking hollywood movie for the next 20 years use pale monsters with four-to-six digitrade legs

Reminder that the largest predator ever recorded in the history of our planet is alive right now.

>>713939773
I still feel like he'd be more colourful

>>713939802
a goofier looking version of the monkey dinosaur hybrids from Dino Crisis 3

>>713939436
You do realize the famous dinosaurs (like Trex, Triceratops, etc) are usually the famous ones precisely because they are the ones that we have multiple complete skeletons of right?

>>713939802
It makes way more sense than the past 2 JP films.
>Lets use dinosaurs in war.
Fucking retarded

>>713939975
The blue whale isn't considered a carnivore, the largest living carnivore is considered the sperm whale got the largest brain too

>>713926390
Didn't one of the more recent movies use some sort of electric weaponry? Maybe it's just that in bolter form.

>>713938970
That bear has places to be.

>>713939802
Looks like a Godzilla villain. At least the Indominus Rex looked like a dinosaur.

Who are these people trying to make dinosaurs stupid and gay for the past 15 something years

>>713928358
>Our attacks

>>713940251
It seems to be a guy called Colin Trevnov or something

>>713939975
It's crazy how fucking huge megasauropods were. Did a grown adult argentinosaurus even have any predators to worry about or was it practically invincible?

>>713940205
>Looks like a Godzilla villain

No originality in over 20 years.

>>713939436
>ignores every piece of fossil evidence and basic logic to keep trying to pretend that the largest predator of the era was 100% only a scavenger

What's a good book on learning about dinosaurs?

>>713939773
>had tiger-like cushioned pads meaning they made almost no sound when moving
this is probably the scariest thing discovered about them

>>713940139
you forgot the last shitty world movie
>dinosaurs are literally a sideshow in a plot about big bugs eating crops so biosyn could sell specially branded fertilizer

>>713916701
And people say evolution doesn't exist, dinosaurs are still evolving Christ cucks

>>713940625
Hey, they actually used those dinosaurs as weapons in that movie just like Fallen Kingdom said they would.
>Aim laser at someone
>They try to kill them.
Too bad these genetically engineered super killers can't outrun a morbidly obese American woman over the course of 5KM

>>713940474
The Earth shaking tremors (along with movement based eyesight) don't really make much sense for a hunter anyways. A running T Rex might send some tremors through the ground, but it doesn't make much sense if you're an ambush predator.

>>713940742
>>Aim laser at someone
>>They try to kill them.
Why not just shoot the guy yourself instead of getting your dino puppy to do it, lol

>>713940971
It makes zero sense

>>713939773
I think T-Rex would become cooler if we found out it had one of those sick mohawks like these dudes have.

>>713940839
>it doesn't make much sense *to shake the Earth when you're walking* if you're an ambush predator
Forgot to add that part

>>713923671
What I hate is that sauropods are depicted as peaceful creatures. What we know of herbivores in real life is that they tend to be hyper aggressive when they live around big predators. Moose will fuck you up 10 ways from Sunday. So will bulls. And boars. And elephants. And hippos. And giraffes. And etc.

Sauropods likely would've had a temper and would've killed shit just because. Especially because they had comically small brains and were likely among the dumbest dinosaurs. They would've been like rhinos and attacked anything that so much as spooked them.

How is it?

Ok but how is THIS?

>>713939773
>>713940474
yeah they were probably very quiet for their size
but also based on the distance between their eyes, socket orientation, and eyeball size, they likely had better visual acuity than modern birds of prey, so possibly the best visual acuity of any animal ever.
they had unusually long cochlea in the ear, which indicates high auditory acuity specifically in low ranges, meaning that they could hear the footsteps of prey over long distances
they had unusually large olfactory bulbs, indicating a powerful sense of smell
and they had the largest brain:body ratio of any dinosaur outside of some small microraptors
so not only were they one of the largest land predators of all time, but they had some of the best vision, hearing, smell, and intelligence of any comparable predator. A t rex would be able to see, hear, and probably smell you at a distance where a human would not be able to see the t rex without binoculars.

>>713929387
>>713929158
To go into a little more depth, one of the characters posits that because the raptors are not raised up by actual raptors and taught how to hunt and be in a community, they are ferocious psychopaths who have no problem even killing their own species.

>>713916701
It is actually the opposite

>>713925184
I stopped watching the movie after this. People get eaten in these movies, I get it, but this was just too mean-spirited. Egregiously. She was even a named character and it's not like she was a villain who had it coming, either.

I wonder if it's possible that a T Rex could roar, in a way. Apparently it made bird like sounds, but imagine if it sounded like this, but amplified to the size of a 9 tons animal.

https://youtube.com/shorts/PH-l9qIwEI0?si=d_OToP81eIYE9frs

Would be as good a Jurassic Park roar.

>>713935196
They're probably referring to the extremely well preserved psittacosaurus fossil found a couple of years back where you can vaguely make out its cloaca.

I think the more interesting thing is that it was so well preserved we could even tell what color patterns it had.

>>713941372
kek

>>713916701
No paleontologist ever believed Spino could be a Rex killer.

>>713941671
We don't know shit about what dinosaurs sounded like because we don't have well preserved enough fossils. The only dinosaur that we know of that we know what it sounded like is the parasaurolophus (this guy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlKa7i_59As

That's because paleontologists found a well preserved enough skeleton to make a replica of that they then blew air threw to replicate what it sounded like.

>>713941303
i just jorked it, this image holds no power

>>713942146
jack horner did

Hello there

>>713940251
>>713940336
Can someone tell me why every Jurassic World dino looks like the artist has a hard on for grey and blue coloration?

i'd fuck a dinosaur

>>713918298
"clever grrrl"

>>713917154
>What the fuck? Wasn't Spino always known to be aquatic?
Not in Dinosaur Safari

>>713942763
You can fuck a crocodile or alligator right now. It'd be pretty close to fucking a semi-aquatic dinosaur.

>>713942829
That Dinosapien icon concerns me

>>713939212
A GAME THEORY

>>713942763
But which one?

>>713942941
>icon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa9tSajV4ZE#t=23s

>>713918376
damn everyone gave shit johanson for that unflattering shot for the ghost in the shell movie but she brought it back goddamn

>>713918376
white guy die as a coluntary hero for random, expendable shitskins... jewwood right there...

What I find interesting about dinosaurs is what they lived alongside. Flora, fauna, and so on. There must've been some pretty nasty parasites that lived back then just as now. There were no grasses or flowers during most of the Mesozoic. Gymnosperms were the dominant form of plantlife at the time meaning no fruits, either. There were still loads of insects, even some pretty meaty ones that would've been the size of rats. Snakes, too, lived alongside them.

And there were even mammals large enough to have preyed upon dinosaurs. The largest mammals during the times that we've found fossils for would've been the size of wolverines, and we found them killing psittacosauruses in the fossil record. So there had to be larger mammals that we don't have fossils of. Maybe some that even got to the size of wolves or caracal cats.

>>713942904
Indians are way ahead of you

>>713943158
Not him, but I think I'd pass. They didn't have vaginas, they had cloacas, which means you'd be getting shit and piss on you if you tried.

>>713942324
>jack horner
lol
lmao, even

I just had a match where my supports taunted the enemy team while doing jeff/storm teamup
got shit on by the same thing when the other team started using it
and then in the following 3rd round our supports locked in defensive ults and basically became useless instead of playing rocket or jeff

I think the continents during the Cretaceous would make for a particularly fun game of Civilization.

>>713925949
cassette futurism mixed with memphis lite

>>713916348
Bitch they are 5 meters tall, its not like stealth does them any good

Aliens > Dinosaurs

How does a movie from 2001 honestly look better than one from 2025 when it has a higher budget, improved technology and filming techniques?

>>713944201
if the foliage is 10 meters tall and predators even bigger then yes it does

what are some good dino games

>>713943693
Wonder if elephant sized mammals existed back then. Probably not but just wonder...

>>713944448
>Daniela Lobo Dias
So the only non pajeet on that list is a Mexican?

>>713944448
Do these creatures just work for pennies or something?

>>713944689
Yes.

>>713924092
Getting older plus kids

>>713940447
how did they even come up with this shit
>based on the bones, giant trex takes little, scared nibbles out of carcesses, looking up in between
>sees midget allosaurus
>chirps and runs away

if trex is a scavenger, then the other predator dinosaurs must all be vegetarians

>>713944505
I'd reckon that large mammals probably didn't exist at the time because they would've been easy pickings for dinosaurs. Mammals would've had to be arboreal or else they'd need to burrow like moles.

But I could see some getting as big as orangutans or chimpanzees. Maybe 150 - 200 lbs on the heavy side.

>>713944378
new filmmakers are shit at their job
they require the whole scene be completely rendered out before scrapping it entirely
they have no idea how to compose a scene at all

>>713944689
yes m8
that is the whole point

Alright, /v/, you get to go back in time and eat one dinosaur. What are you choosing?

For me it's the triceratops. Their loins must've been divine.

>>713933656
Got a hit on google, 18516393 on furaffinity.
So just some art.

>>713944505
I doubt a mammal got any bigger than a wolverine during the Mesozoic. Every ecological niche was dominated by reptiles from fucking flying to fucking swimming. Mammals back then would scurry and burrow and hope to god some dinosaur didn't see them as a snack. The meteor really was the saving grace that lead to our existence.

>>713945068
Not a dino, but I'm interested in what pterodactyls would've tasted like.

>>713915873 (OP)
>Be me 9000 BC spinosaur
>Participate in a rizz off with my friends T-Rex and velociraptor
>velociraptor is too short and t-rex has short hands, tell myself I have got this as I flex my spine.
>Looks like it is working
>Hear giant stomping sound
>Oh no it is a sauroposeidon he is 18 meters tall and height mogs me
>We team up to fight him
>He stomps on us
>In 9000 BC if you are less than 18 meters tall it is not worth trying

>>713944929
Gareth Edwards has done decent CGI and cinematography before 11 years earlier with Godzilla 2014. But theres just no excuse here. Rebirth looks like a direct-to-video Syfy movie.

>>713945159
Considering Earth's ecosystems today, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some mid-sized mammalian predators or even herbivores. Gazelles and antelopes would've done just fine in the cretaceous once grass evolved.

I don't know much about dinosaurs - why do paleontologists not have a better way for detecting fossils? like just seems like they only find them now by like landslides or cliff collapses now

I know it's rock being detected within rock, but surely there must be some kind of scientific gizmo out there that can do it, we could have more dinosaur discoveries in the next 20 years than in the last 100

>>713939773
>>Instead of a generic roar, it made cool, creepy, alien sounding guttural rumbles.
This is fucking bullshit by the way. The only dinosaur who's sounds are known is Parasaurolophus. Any other species is pure speculation

>>713945642
>The only dinosaur who's sounds are known is Parasaurolophus
they found its mixtape or what?

>>713945715
They blew air into its crest and it made a sounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtpSOpUDCb8
And even then these are only the sounds the crest made. Not whatever sounds the animal would also make with its throat

I had a dream where I was attacked by a quilled/feathered "velociraptor" and that shit was scary as fuck, the animal itself.
Same goes for terror birds. Are 6/7 foot tall terror birds not scary because "muh feathers"?

>>713918376
breasts

>>713920280
kek

>>713945295
>Yeah so basically these dinosaurs where like 60ft tall so tall that basically anytime it would storm they'd get struck and fucking die

>>713915873 (OP)
Pic unrelated.

>>713945989
>He isn't immune to lightning strikes
Anon what is your fucking excuse you fucking pussy?

>>713945989
Dinolet cope

>>713946068
Cause I don't keep the worlds largest rubber buttplug up my ass like you do gsyboy

>>713946165
kek

>>713925184
pretty sure the actress literally requested this happen
also this is always like 20 seconds longer than i remember it being kek

>>713946384
>They have the exact same color patterns people have been giving ornithomimosaurs for decades

>>713946384
Is she ready to seed and feed?

>>713915873 (OP)
Taken as a sort of proto-Indominus hybrid abomination, I don't mind JP3 spino that much, even it it does just kind of look like a duck.

>>713915873 (OP)
New version looks more brutal.

>>713916804
I dunno about that one, Doesn't look a thing like elephant seal skeleton

>>713941089
It's true. Vegans are extremely violent too.

>>713946384
I wonder if that's sun burn on its skin

>>713946384
Birds imprint on humans pretty easily. They can actually fall in love with humans which causes them to ignore their own kind.

>>713947046
kek

>>713925089
Parrots are way cuter, smarter and based than Tyrannosaurs.

Turtles evolved alongside dinos so it's sad to see them never get included.

>>713947519
My pet budgie would try to warn us all when he spotted a kestrel or buzzard hovering over the neighbouring fields. It was to our eyes just a speck in the distance, but to him it was DANGER.

>>713948107
Your bird's a fucking narc

>>713946384
>>713947519
Do you think it's theoretically possible to tame a T Rex (the same way there are some people who can comfortable sit next to and pet a lion they've raised their whole life)

>>713948626
No. A tyrannosaurus would see its parents as rivals later on for territory and food.

>>713948626
Could be. But you should also take into account that, despite the recent push against "awesomebro" dinosaurs, T. rex was an extremely violent creature and this is supported by direct fossil evidence. There isn't any T. rex skull that isn't full of bite marks

>>713944505
they didn't the mammals at the time were mostly different variants of little furry badger-like cynodonts
before the dinosaurs however, proto-mammals were globally dominant, though the biggest were really only bear-sized

Dinosaurs in JP1 and 2 had reasons to be hyper-aggressive; they had no one raising them, so their behavior was that of a psychopath. But everything after those? They had several generations and worked out their social instincts, no reason to see and attack everything that exists. A rex wouldnt bother with a human unless it was starving. Not worth the energy to pursue.

>>713948626
Eventually? Sure. Domestication is just a matter of breeding. The Russians demonstrated as much with their fox experiments in the 80s or 90s I think it was.
It's just a question of if the juice is worth the squeeze, because you'd have to do a lot of fucking squeezing to get a giant carnivorous murder lizard to eventually turn into a tamable creature.

>>713948626
do you want to see this happen to them

>>713948936
Funny thing is only the raptors exhibited signs of clear sadism or higher thinking. The Tyrannosaurus despite growing up alone in a fence, learned how to hunt and didn't just mindlessly kill everything it saw. The herbivores well, they do their thing. On Sorna all the animals are living their own lives. The Rex family pursues the Ingen team because Sarah wears a coat with their infants BLOOD on it for the whole trip and she states the act of taking the infant in itself is grounds for them to start acting more territorial. In both cases had people just left them alone they would be acting out the lives and existence of their predecessors.

>>713918376
Bazongas!

>>713949065
imagine having one of these little guys as a pet

>>713948819
Primeval was pretty cool for including an (admittedly oversized) gorgonopsid and even having it fight and kill a superpredator from the future.

They're both cute.

>>713918574
It's hilarious how your kind goes batshit insane over our knowledge of things changing as we discover new things and adjust our views and theories. You think everything is some fucking conspiracy against you because we learn things.

>>713949178
That art looks like it was drawn by someone who has a non zero chance having raped dog skeletons buried in his backyard

>>713948936
>Dinosaurs in JP1 and 2 had reasons to be hyper-aggressive; they had no one raising them, so their behavior was that of a psychopath
That's a big leap in assumption, no? It's not like every animals that were left to fend by themselves from a young age display psychopathic tendencies.

>>713941089
Eh, maybe you're right but sauropods don't seem to have the type of offensive weapons (like Trike horns or anky clubs) that asshole herbivores possess. Sure, they weren't completely passive, but as long as you're not directly bothering them, they were probably gentle giants. Then again, I might be making stuff up based on my own preconceived notions.

>>713924513
the redpill is not that dinosaurs were made less cool but that birds were made cooler

>>713916023
god forbid children get cool shit to play with

>>713948819
Honestly, there should be a game that takes place in the Permian era. Everyone focuses on dinosaurs but this era feels so alien and unique. It's a pity it doesn't get much representation in media.

>>713949839
A sauropod's main advantage was its size. Size is always going to be a deterrent to animals who won't risk injury or death just to get a meal. Sure its always a risk but if you see something thats big enough to pancake your entire carcass you don't have much reason to act like an angry rhino or hippo all the time.

>>713916589
Why do normalfags miss the concept of anachronisms? Yeah sure Spielberg tried to make the 'most accurate' dinosaurs.
In 1993.
So the rest of Jurassic Park has to be beholden to that rule, portraying 1993 dinosaurs, to do otherwise is pretentious.

>>713925089
Are dinosaurs/birds the animal equivalent of Japan?

>>713949967
What the fuck is that argument do you think they won't make toys of the new one or real animals?

Nobody ever talks about the giant fucking bugs.

>>713950101
I sure wish they kept the 90's paleoart aesthetic instead of whatever the fuck JW did >>713942664

>>713948773
>awesomebro
Paleotards have ruined this term honestly. At this point anything that depicts dinosaurs with a bit of edge will get called an "awesomebro fantasy." Sure dinosaurs probably weren't always engaging in Kaiju fights with other dinosaurs. But bite marks on trike head crests show that T Rex wasn't a completely risk averse animal either. There should be like a middle ground position.

>>713949065
>Someone breeds a chihuahua T. Rex
>Someone breeds a pitbull T. Rex
>We end up with underground T. Rex fighting arenas

>>713950101
it sucks because jurassic park is the biggest dinosaur media franchise, so all mainstream dinosaur media is stuck in the 90s

>>713950293
I agree. It means fucking nothing. If lions were extinct they would think two male lions fighting to the death is too "awesomebro" and unrealistic

>>713949643
Oddly specific

>>713950315
I'd rather dino media be stuck in the 90's, than the nu-shit they come up with to cement extra government grants.
Do you really fucking want dinosaur media where the dinosaurs are voting democrat because 'scientists said so'???

>>713950293
The thing is, people are too retarded so they can't be reasonable, they always have to go to the other extreme.
It's the same reason why people start projectile shitting blood if a movie or documentary portrays Oviraptor eating eggs or a Smilodon beating a terror bird under any context. Even tho those two things obviously happened sometimes.

>>713950361
It's because i have seen that exact situation play out

>>713949839
Recreations and simulations have shown that sauropods could've whipped their tail with enough force to kill a tyrannosaur if they hit them at the correct angle.

Not to mention elephants kill primarily by trampling. Sauropods could've easily killed most animals caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. There could've been a quetzelcoatlus parking its ass at a watering hole and a sauropod just removes its neck.

>>713950386
>brings up american politics out of nowhere

>>713942581
Get the fuck back in the water nigger. It’s all your fault.

>>713950315
Even Jurassic Park cannot break away from it, see world's failed attempts of making mosarsaur a household name.

>>713950386
(you)

>>713925440
JP has always been a dino slasher movie with very little realism. it makes for a spoopy shot, that's all.

>>713950547
You know it's less than a decade away before 'scientists' start attributing leftist policies to ancient animals.

>>713950880
I wouldn't call that shot spoopy. I would call it straight up retarded

Why are dinosaurs like this?

>>713941089
well you have to remember, sauropods were like, ridiculously stupid
they're closer to a particularly stupid fish in intelligence than to a rhinoceros
they were not herbivores in the sense we think of them now, they were machines that turned plant matter into poop

>>713925184
>>713925556
both of these scenes felt so cruel. like did the directors hate these two actors or what

>>713950880
The timing was more comic, compared to the older movies

>>713950984
>if only you knew how bad things really are

When are we getting a new Dino Crisis game?
>>713919927
How'd you like the JW cartoons? I heard they were pretty decent.

>>713950984
The dinosaur is the one being eaten

>>713950984
Why doesn't the bird just peck from the inside?

It wasn't killed, it was swallowed alive

>>713948626
they were ambush predators even "tame" tigers and lions will pounce if you turn your backs on them

>>713949990
early to mid triassic is also pretty wild
life rebounding after the largest mass extinction ever saw some absolute weird things happening, it was basically the second cambrian explosoin

>>713939802
awful. he looked really cool in that first trailer, i thought he kinda resembled the Hellknight from DOOM 3, but I guess the lighting was doing a whole lot to help hide his extra chromosomes.
>>713939957
I really doubt Cloverfield is what started that trend, it was a much more sea creature-like design (intentionally). it also was a neat lookin creature.

>>713918376
Scarlett Johansson is the only reason why I'll watch this film.

>>713950315
I wish King Kong 2005 jumpstarted some new dinosaur media. Its really bizarre how kaiju can have a diverse foothold but not dinosaurs which are inarguably more down to Earth.

>>713950315
>>713950669
This is what I find so intriguing about dinosaurs. Jurassic Park seems deeply woven into our modern view of dinosaurs as a whole. What I mean is that, it seems almost impossible to talk about dinosaurs without bringing up Jurassic Park at least once. Like you can talk about sharks without mentioning Jaws even once. It seems a lot harder to do that with dinosaurs.

>>713948976
>Domestication is just a matter of breeding.
not at all, an animal needs to be intelligent and social, but also breed fast enough they can be domesticated, needs to be small enough they don't see humans are prey animals (no wolves did not see adult humans as prey animals, we always were predators in their weight class)

However they also can't be "too" intelligent, and they need to be capable of reading human intention to some degree

Foxes fit these characteristics, the reason they were never domesticated is simply that there's no good use for a domesticated fox that a cat or a ferret wouldn't do way better

Another example of an animal that could be domesticated but hasn't been because there's just no usecase for them is a seal

but no matter what, you're not domesticating tigers

>>713951335
also keep in mind that tigers and lions have intelligence nearly identical to a wolf / dog. As potentially big a T-rex's brain might be it's still isn't a mammal brain

>>713950898
let me guess, you're still upset at archaeologists telling you that hunter-gatherers did not practice rugged capitalism, kick their children out at 18 and didn't treat their women as sex slaves?

>>713950245
They're a meme.

>>713940030
man, Dino Crisis 3 had some great designs. if that game just had a regular ass third person camera it'd have been good. that camera is the sole reason I hate it, it doesn't work well at all.
picrel is another cool mutated dino design.

>>713918376
They should just go full action fantasy and have it be knights vs Dinosaurs or some dumb shit

>>713951668
remember, avian brains are fairly similar to other theropod brain structures and avian brains are more than capable of match mammalian brains, even exceeding mammalian intelligence at lower brain size (no such thing as a mammal even the size of a raven that comes even close, let alone crows or magpies)
We also know that T. Rex was highly intelligent, they had to be to be capable of actually processing the sheer levels of sensory input their eyes and olfactory senses would have presented them with (both being ridiculously strong even by avian standards)

Everything points to T. Rex having been an active stalker/ambush predator very much similar to tigers only with drastically superior visual sense

>>713951891
Yeah just a do a planet of the apes rip off except it's dinos instead of apes.

>>713951891
I wish paleo fantasy was more of a thing. Dinotopia or something comparable.

>>713951789
It's such a shame that the isle is a scam. It could have been something very special

>>713951891
fantasy and sci-fi far future dinosaur stuff are both weirdly untapped

>>713951668
Tigers are more intelligent than dogs. They're even capable of mimicry. In terms of intelligence, the ranking is roughly

>(Most) Humans
>Orcas
>Dolphins
>Chimps/Bonobos
>Corvids
>Orangutans
>Octopi
>(Most) Whales
>Elephants
>Parrots/Parakeets
>Tigers
>Gorillas
>Pigs
>(Most) dogs
>Bears
>Foxes
>(Most) cats
>Raccoons
>Rats/Mice
...
>House flies
>(Humans with opinions opposite your own)

>>713952093
One of my favorite childhood games

>>713952146
Tigers are not smarter than gorillas come on

>>713952139
yeah every once in a while i remember it exists and look up the state of it to get disappointed. they haven't added any meaningful content in years, and humans are still basically not in the game unless you count being able to run around on foot and get eaten by other players.

>>713950525
>could've whipped their tail with enough force to kill a tyrannosaur if they hit them at the correct angle

????

>>713951492
It is because dinosaurs are seem as "monstrous animals" so there some limitations.

>>713951563
It is because JP codified the dinosaurs imagery, it was the responsible for popularizing the horizontal Tyrannosaurus.

>>713916589
Oh, Horner, you say this as your rage and hatred for Tyrannosaurus rex led to you spending decades trying to convince everyone that T. rex and only T. rex was a gigantic carrion-eating buzzard.

>>713952258
Depending on the sauropod, the tail by itself is heavier than a T. rex

>>713952146
Chimps and bonobos are are our closest relatives they're certainly smarter than cetaceans.

>>713952224
Gorillas are actually surprisingly unintelligent. I say this as a fan of gorillas. They're still great apes, but they're leaps and bounds dumber than the others.

Also tigers really are that smart. Cats are already pretty smart.

>>713952146
parrots are corvid tier at least, they score comparably in virtually every test, maybe slightly lower tool use but at the same time better social intelligence
octopi are significantly below elephants, while it's cool and all they're as intelligent as they are, lets not overestimate things

Elephants are also above most whales, bottlenose dolphins are smarter than orcas, orangutans are in fact the least intelligent great ape, below gorillas and no a tiger is nowhere close to a gorilla

>>713952093
Bless James Gurney and his autistic obsession with a human/Dino world

>>713952383
>he thinks cats are particularly smart animals
Oh i see, that explains it

>>713923715
It's living on Mantah Corp's island.

>>713951929
>>713952120
I'd play the shit out of a game where you can level up with a dinosaur mount/companion exploring dungeons and liberating the land of evil. And it doesn't exist...no one is trying to make it a reality.

>>713951319
It's in a tight constricting straightjacket of muscle slowly undulating to bring it into a chamber of battery acid.

>>713952481
What do you mean? they fly above my house all the time

>>713952508
Just use peck and scratch, it'll still hurt somewhat

>>713952347
Our last common ancestor with the chimps was between 5 and 10 million years ago. Australian Aboriginals are the animal most closely related to humans.

>They're certainly smarter than cetaceans

>>713930426
They've found spinosaurid teeth embedded in the bones of a pterosaur, and Baryonyx is confirmed to have eaten other dinosaurs as well as fish. It's likely Spinosaurus fed primarily on fish but wouldn't pass by a chance to eat something else.

>Jurassic Park but with female anthro dinosaurs
Why hasn't this been done yet?

>>713951601
>not at all
Yes. All that stuff you are bringing up can absolutely be shaped by selective breeding. It just depends on the time period you are prepared to wait on to develop the foundationals.

>>713952325
I don't get how anyone ever took him serious in any way
animals the size of T. Rex can't survive off of carrion, the only way carrion eaters can get big is if
1: they fly
2: they expend virtually 0 energy moving around

2 is only possible in marine environments by the way, it's how you get greenland sharks that only eat once a year

He could have tried to argue that T. Rex primarily survived by bullying smaller predators off of their fresh kills, that would have been at least moderately believable, but no he had to go all the way

>>713952621
I mean I don't see them using tools, planning complex (by their standards) traps, engaging in huge levels of sadism or emotion. Everyone thinks dolphins are sadistic because they "rape" things or ram sharks...a chimpanzee will just delight in murdering its own family member for looking at it a certain way. And it relishes in that sadism.

>>713952394
>octopi are significantly below elephants, while it's cool and all they're as intelligent as they are, lets not overestimate things
To be fair, they are really short lived

>>713952696
when it comes to non-social animals the time periods we're talking about be 100,000+ years

>>713931746
Dinosaurs were endothermic, they needed to eat regularly. A good-sized kill would last a few days, but something like Tyrannosaurus or Giganotosaurus couldn't just eat something then sit and loaf around for weeks.

>>713952563
>JP3 hater

>>713952805
yes which is why their intelligence is hyperspecialized and they appear to be overall smarter because they're really good at figuring out problems that apply to them
but octopi are very prone to being faced without outside context problems, they for example have 0 ability to engage in anything resembling social relationships, we're talking less social intelligence than mice
they also are entirely self-taught which actively counts against them, every single truly intelligent animal engages in some form of teaching and cultural knowledge, because their behaviors have grown so complex that they can't be transmitted purely through genetics and require memetics

and that's where elephant intelligence becomes exceedingly apparent, they have highly complex cultures (by animal standards) and they are nowhere near as prone to outside context issues, capable of adapting to a vastly wider amount of scenarios than an octopus would

>>713952752
Two determining factors. One goes back to an appeal to authority, people see the words "scientist" or "expert" and just go with that person being 100% right. Second is hes pretty much speculating on an animal thats been gone for an inconceivably long amount of time, that nobody has any real frame of reference for how it truly acted or looked.

>>713952791
1. Orcas and dolphins both have language and even have dialects.
2. Dolphins have been documented using sponges to dig in the sea floor so they don't hurt their beaks
3. Orcas have been documented wearing fish for fun
4. Orcas even have some pretty "intelligent" rituals, like one orca mother whose calf died young. She carried her dead daughter to roughly where she was born, nearly starving to death in the process.
5. Dolphins and orcas have both been documented using intelligent pack hunting tactics
6. Cetaceans all engage in play (usually to the detriment of other animals)
7. Dolphins are known to poison themselves with pufferfish venom to get high

Cetaceans are every bit the equal of chimps/orangutans/gorillas.

>>713942324
>>713940447
>>713944856
>>713952325
Honestly his "Rex is a scavenger" theory would have had more weight if it weren't for the fact that there was an element of spite to it. Just watch this.
https://youtu.be/GDyTVX-b-es?si=boicC0t95kyo-kY8

Skip to 48:00 minute mark
>Really nasty looking vile creature
There is nothing wrong with proposing a wrong hypothesis. Theorizing is just part of science. However, when you openly show a bias, that's when the criticism comes in.

>>713953008
kinda, sorta, the large ones were gigantothermic where their sheer size made it so they didn't need to spend nearly as much energy to keep a consistent internal temperature
it's why something like a sauropod could even possibly exist

>>713941583
I'm pretty sure the actor said she would only take the role if she could have as gruesome a death as possible.

>>713952752
He actually did try to argue that, which was even more retarded because the next-largest predator that lived with T. rex was a species of dromaeosaur, which were around man-sized. Horner is convinced that the dromaeosaurs were the true alpha predators, taking down ceratopsians and ankylosaurs and hadrosaurs (and Alamosaurus in the southern range) with their superior raptor intelligence and pack-hunting prowess, while the T. rex waited for them to make a kill then scared them away with its big ugly stinky presence.

>>713953128
cetaceans exceed orangutans is a critical way: social intelligence
orangutans are solitary and solitary animals just are not as smart as communal ones

Add elephants to this as well by the way, they have observed culture, same with corvids and parrots

>>713953202
sounds like he was a raptor fanboy

>>713953102
That's because octopi have no reason to socialize. They're solitary predatory animals and also on the complete other side of the animalian evolutionary tree from the other intelligent lifeforms. Remember, they're mollusks. Octopi are on a "less evolved" branch of the evolutionary tree than fish. They're the closest thing on Earth to an alien intelligence.

Socializing isn't necessarily a measure of intelligence either since even relatively dumb animals like flamingos socialize. When it comes to raw intelligence, octopi absolutely BTFO elephants. The elephants have way longer lives than octopi, though, and socially teach other elephants. Meanwhile octopi die in 5 years.

Let's not forget that octopi can and do form symbiotic relationships with other animals. They've been known to hunt with fish, and even get frustrated when the fish they hunt with takes too much food and end up PUNCHING THE FISH. Octopi are basically aggressive autists that kill themselves young while elephants are dumb normies that live until 80 and accrue some level of wisdom.

>>713953128
Kind of weird how the smart ungulates went to the sea.

>>713953202
hold on he tried to argue a dromaeosaur could take down an ankylosaurus?
like, fucking how, the only way a predator can even begin to tackle a grown ankylosaurus is to flip them over, which is why that entire lineage evolved to make being flipped over really fucking hard
and the only predator even remotely capable of that task is a T. Rex and even then, I doubt that healthy adult ankylosaurus had much to fear from anything but the most desperate T. Rex

>>713953279
Quit it with the socializing = smart bullshit. Unless you think termites are smarter than bears.

>>713953128
>Orcas and dolphins both have language and even have dialect
Every animal capable of vocalization does.
>dolphins have been documented using sponges to dig in the sea floor so they don't hurt their beaks
And squirrels have used rocks or trees to crack open nuts.
> Orcas have been documented wearing fish for fun
They don't know the concept of fun, engagement maybe and socialization.
>Orcas even have some pretty "intelligent" rituals, like one orca mother whose calf died young. She carried her dead daughter to roughly where she was born, nearly starving to death in the process.
Thats actually interesting reminds me of elephants visiting graves.
>Dolphins and orcas have both been documented using intelligent pack hunting tactics
So have wolves and other animals. But its nowhere near the level of apes most of which are omnivorous anyways.
>Cetaceans all engage in play
Again, many animals do this, specifically mammals.
>Dolphins are known to poison themselves with pufferfish venom to get high
Thats not smart thats stupid.

If they were truly on the level of the lesser apes they would be in the Stone Age and wouldn't have retreated back into the ocean. Smart by animal standards? Sure, but not close to a chimpanzee.

>>713953180
>>713953282
Horner is a hadrosaur fanboy, and he found eight different T. rex specimens over two summers while he was looking for hadrosaurs. This broke his mind something fierce.

>>713953180
It never had weight to it, the very nature of the T. rex made pure scavenging impossible. Also note that Horner never suggested any of the other giant theropods were also pure scavengers despite all of them fitting into his criteria of why Rex would be a scavenger. He had no beef against Carcharadontosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus, Giganotosaurus, not even against Rex's cousins Tarbosaurus and Zhuchengtyrannus, only Rex itself.

>>713931717
The mosquito in them.

>>713953415
>When it comes to raw intelligence, octopi absolutely BTFO elephants
not at all, and there's a massive difference between elephant socialization and flamingo socialization, mostly being that elephants are groups of cooperative individuals, and a requirement to function in elephant society is the ability to memorize and anticipate social behavior

Again, octopi can outdo elephants in some tasks because their intelligence is hyperspecialized, but in generic tasks elephants are vastly superior to octopi

also the term "less evolved" is an idiotic one, if anything molluscs are more evolved than mammals and humans are some of the least evolved creatures on the planet because of our ridiculously long generational length

As for that symbiotic relationship? That's impressive because it comes from well, an octopus but what you just described is something rats do, it's basic level mammal or avian behavior

you're trying to humanize these creatures too much, like the whole autism term just makes that abundantly clear, and it makes you try to imagine octopi as being far more intelligent than they actually are

>>713953497
I don't think you truly understand how intelligent orcas are when it comes to their hunts. They don't just chase you down until you're tired, they can synchronize their swimming to break apart icefloes and capsize them to catch animals that thought they could escape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs8ZveNZQ8g

Orcas have a clear understanding of fluid dynamics. They're insane.

>>713915873 (OP)
>The original spinosaur looks bette-ACK!

>spinosaurus swam in water

lol
why the fuck would it have a sail

>>713952752
>T. Rex primarily survived by bullying smaller predators off of their fresh kills,
Tbf that probably did happen a lot, (though to suggest that was its primary source of nutrition retarded). Most carnivores are opportunistic scavengers. A lion will bully a hyena away from its kill, a hyena would bully a cheetah away from its kill etc.

>>713953443
He did indeed argue this. Both of his documentaries "Valley of the T. rex" and "T. rex: Warrior or Wimp?" showed raptors as the dominant predators that could kill all of the various herbivores while T. rex couldn't even take down a dying animal, hell in one scene a T.rex walks up to a herd of Edmontosaurus and the hadrosaurs just look up at it and then go back to eating while the rex watches for a minute then leaves.

Jurrasic Park never would have happened if they just made the dinosaurs more erotic.

>>713953125
>that nobody has any real frame of reference for how it truly acted or looked.
that's the thing though, we actually do have a frame of reference, we have basic biochemistry and biophysics, predator-prey relationships that are consistent across a wide gulf of clades and course T. Rex has left us some impressively intact fossils

and just that alone makes it well, impossible to imagine T. Rex as being anything other than an active predator, much in the same way that someone from say, central africa, who's never seen a bear before, will still come to the conclusion upon being shown an image of one that a bear is a dangerous predator

>in Jurassic World they clone a human
>meaning you can potentially alleviate or fix so many real world issues by cloning humans for organ harvesting or personal pleasure or worse, legality be damned
>this is never elaborated on further or a major plot point

>>713953807
The only thing a rex would bully away from a kill is another rex. The raptors weren't killing anything big enough for a rex to waste its time on.

>>713953948
but DINOSAURS

>>713953807
oh absolutely, I have no doubt it happened, which is why I brought it up
at least there's some possible arguments to be made that T. Rex was a klepto-parasite

It's bad arguments, it couldn't work but at least there's some
Scavenger however makes fuckall sense
Even the most basic factor of "well it has high bite force" does not measure up because of hyenas, spotted hyena have the highest biteforce of any hyena species and they're also the hypercarnivorous hyena

>>713953948
We already have a gorillion laws against cloning, not to mention the public and religious outrage and massive questioning of should cloned life be treated as normal life or are they horrid creations of science gone too far.

>>713953443
>>713953202
Though this has me wondering, what exactly did dakotaraptors hunt? Pretty much every prey item seems way out of their league. Did they mainly survive off juveniles?

>>713953975
When you're that big, you need that much more food that you probably can't afford to be too picky about what you can get at any given time. If modern birds are anywhere near similar, they burn through energy super fucking fast.

>>713954028
In that movie case, it was "but the bugs? And fuck gigantosaur"

>>713916303
I want III's design with Rebirth's colors

How the fuck has this thread lasted all day?
Not that i'm complaining. /an/ threads on /v/ are always comfy

>>713953975
I could see them take on a particularly weakened hadrosaur
rare occurrence to be sure, and even rarer considering that T. Rex was basically specialized in finding weak hadrosaurs and killing them

>>713954095
I doubt every dinosaur from every era or nation has been discovered. Theres bound to be hundreds if not thousands that will never be dug up because the fossil evidence is gone. At least with cenozoic mammals the gap in time isn't so big.

>>713954095
The image you just posted has many animals in its size range that it could have hunted

>>713953948
Only for the rich/jews

>>713953773
The shittiest animatronic will always look better than the best CGI model

>>713954093
Something like that is already explored in the first JP but with fictional CGI animals. If anything it would be perfect to explore the horrors of science gone wrong with a cloned human instead of showing some blue superhero raptor striking a pose after suplexing its own hybrid clone.

>>713954095
I mean, remember sauropods were fucking r-strategists
juvenile sauropods would exist in such large numbers they could sustain several predator categories just by themselves
a lot of dinosaur predator numbers and sizes makes a lot more sense when you remember that the largest land animal at the time was an r-strategist

>86 animals in the base game when it launches
>75 of them can breed and have juvenile and male/female models
>the animals included are "icons of the franchise", "fan favorites", and likely whatever animals they hit with a dart along with new species
>this means that over 40 of the animals Evolution 2 ended with aren't in at launch

I'm really hoping that at least the Ankylodocus and Spinoraptor make it in from the non-film hybrids, especially after all the trouble of redesigning the former into a much cooler form and the latter being a major fan favorite.

>>713953773
do you think your image helps your retarded comment? because it looks good there

>>713953948
>>this is never elaborated on further or a major plot point
That was literally part of the plot in Dominion. That her mom fixed her genes for the daughter. Pay attention dumb zoomer.

>>713953734
>not at all, and there's a massive difference between elephant socialization and flamingo socialization, mostly being that elephants are groups of cooperative individuals
That's not a hallmark of intelligence necessarily because we've noted group dynamics in several different animal species. Being able to learn and pass down knowledge is important, but it doesn't necessarily make one smart.

Meanwhile octopi are actually much better generalists and much more ingenuitive. People have done all sorts of tests on them. They're incredible problem solvers, have good memories, and like to manipulate their surroundings to better suit them. For being creatures that live mostly short and solitary lives, they reach a remarkable level of intelligence.

>also the term "less evolved" is an idiotic one
Yes and no. Mollusks evolved incredibly early on down the line, diverging basically right after worms and right before fish. They're an ancient lineage that doesn't share the common traits of intelligence "newer" lifeforms do. All of their closest relatives have absurdly primitive brains or no brains at all. They're an island of intelligence in a sea of brainlessness.

>you're trying to humanize these creatures too much, like the whole autism term just makes that abundantly clear
Because octopi clearly exhibit more human, though still alien, characteristics. They have personalities and actually tend to be assholes. There's nothing wrong with anthropomorphizing other intelligent creatures.

>>713918376
BOOBA

>>713954291
>The shittiest animatronic will always look better than the best CGI model
Why do boomers unironically think giant fake rigid puppets look good?

>>713954332
>a lot of dinosaur predator numbers and sizes makes a lot more sense when you remember that the largest land animal at the time was an r-strategist
Feels surreal considering their size.

>>713954095
>>713954102
We only have tangential evidence of raptors pack hunting. Their likeliest prey would have been much smaller to somewhat smaller animals that they would pin or grip with their feet while eating them alive like modern birds of prey. The larger species like Dakotaraptor and Utahraptor would have been even less likely to pack hunt because they wouldn't need to, though they still wouldn't try attacking adults or subadults of the large herbivores.

>>713954095
There were likely millions of smaller animals around at the time. Insects, mammals, lizards, snakes, small non-avian dinosaurs.... there's just a gap in the fossil record for animals too small to preserve well like the dinosaurs but too small to be caught in amber. We know they had to exist, we just don't know what they were.

>>713954338
I can just boot up JPOG on my PS2. Why the fuck would anyone with an ounce of dignity or intelligence play 3 MTX filled sequels of this horrid Nurassic Park garbage?

>>713954617
Man, I'm grateful octolings are extinct. They were terrifying in Jurassic Park 2.

>>713954423
and none of that is any sign of being "less evolved"
you're looking at evolution as a goal-oriented process anon, which it is in fact not
Octopi are impressive because they have achieved a fairly high problem solving skills despite their short and solitary lives
but this also limits the degree to which their intelligence continues to bring them advantages, octopi don't get much smarter because larger brains would be inefficient for them since they can't capitalize on it the same way intelligence animals can
octopi are chained to the fact that a newborn octopus needs to be capable of fending for itself the minute it is born, they can't afford childhood
And that's where social animals have a key advantage in terms of fitness for higher intelligence: they can protect their young

And yes people have done all sorts of tests but look at those tests again, they are always, without any exception followed by a conclusion "octopus intelligence is extremely high FOR A MOLLUSC"
they are incredibly good problem solvers FOR MOLLUSCS, they have incredibly good memories FOR MOLLUSCS, the manipulate their environment well FOR MOLLUSCS

but their memory by mammalian standards is not "elephant"
it's rat-like and well, that's the creature you have to compare an octopus to, outside of the few instances in which the hyperspecialized intelligence of octopi lets them exceed rats they're well, on the level of rats in just about any test performed on them, except for social tests in which rats exceed them handily

>>713954770
I play all three of them, tell me why I should be losing my monkey-fucking shit in rage over Evolution 1 and 2.

>>713954291
Animatronics really need to make a comeback.

>>713954929
Well you don't have an ounce of dignity or intellect so its no surprise you play JWE. Like we didn't already know that, the microbiota cursed to live on your skin know that.

>>713954480
which is why jurassic and cretaceous ecosystems can still catch people off guard a fair bit
theropods are relatively easy to understand for us, they're easy enough to contextualize which is also why people tend to be puzzled as to how they could get that large and that numerous, predators don't work like that today
but that's because every herbivore above like 10kg of weight is a k-strategist
we just don't have a frame of reference for an ecosystem shaped by megafaunal r-strategists who lived independently from their adult forms for extended periods
every size of a growing sauropod would have to by necessity occupy an entirely different ecological niche, and come with, due to their abundance, it's own set of predators

>>713954617
what kind of dinosaur is that on the left

>>713954579
isn't a working theory that velociraptor might have used it's feathers and tail to stabilize themselves clinging to larger prey?
course larger prey for a velociraptor still wouldn't have even qualified as an appetizer for T. Rex

>>713954882
>and none of that is any sign of being "less evolved"
Are you deliberately just missing the point of what I was saying?
>you're looking at evolution as a goal-oriented process anon, which it is in fact not
No, I'm not. I'm looking at evolution as it is. There are branches and nodes on the tree of life, and creatures split off from it at different times. That's how our classification system works, for what it's worth. Taxonomically speaking, you can never evolve out of a group so all humans, lizards, birds, horses, and whales are fish, but all fish and octopi are sponges.

That being the case, octopi diverged from the "main" branch of life 500+ million years ago. Their last common ancestor with the "main" branch was some time in the Cambrian or Ordovician. Octopi are an incredibly distant animal branch.

>>713955260
>>713954882
And no, octopi aren't just intelligent for molluscs, you retard. They're much more capable than elephants when it comes to problem solving. Again, not for molluscs, but for all forms of life. They're very good at processing information, manipulating their environment, and memorizing.

The only thing holding them back is their short and solitary lifespans. If octopi lived for 20 years and could speak with other octopi, they'd be every bit the equals of corvids.

>>713918376
Scarlett Johansson's character is such a insult to Criction (if you read his autobiography, it's the part when they climb mt Kilimanjaro). That character would fit better in State of Fear more than anything.

>>713950984
That's a mosasaur killing a T. Rex.

>>713953491
>Social anon compares the intelligence of two mammals
>Solitary anon seethes and compares a mammals to an insect
Not very smart of you solitarykun.

>>713955062
Still waiting on why I should be acting like you over it.

>Anons don't know how smart cephalopods are
lol, lmao even

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7__r4FVj-EI

>>713955214
Stabilize themselves while pinning prey, like an eagle or hawk does. They were ill-suited for hunting larger animals even in a pack, their claws had no cutting edges and their teeth weren't designed for the tough thick skin of large animals.

>>713955260
>Octopi are on a "less evolved" branch of the evolutionary tree than fish
quoted directly from your own post
and you still haven't addressed the core point of my post, that octopus studies universally come to the conclusion that they are highly intelligent compared to their closest relatives
but that does not mean that they are highly intelligent compared to mammals, they're not, they're just hyperspecialized in solving certain types of problems
But to again take your own post, you mentioned octopus memory, in a discussion that involves comparing them to elephants, and well, this is just something elephants are drastically superior at, that's not even up for discussion
sure you can argue that elephants live longer and that they teach each other and what not, but all that is irrelevant to the fact that elephants can memorize ridiculously large areas in exceedingly specific detail and in terms of geographic memory exceed humans handily
and that's something that has to be noted
In absolutely 0 aspects of tested intelligence has an octopus ever exceeded a human, or even approached a human, not even in the aspects in which they have hyperspecialized

and that's something which is absolutely worth noting because, unfortunately for the octopus, but even an animal as seemingly unintelligent as the pigeon has at least one mental task in which it exceeds humans

I know you want to imagine octopi as being a crazy intelligent creature overall, but that's simply not what they are, they're the most intelligent molluscs and rank very high in specific tasks, but overall intelligence, they're not anywhere close to the upper echelons of mammalian or avian intelligence, because there's simply no fitness to be gained from them increasing their intelligence

>>713955397
>They're much more capable than elephants when it comes to problem solving
And that's flat out not true
And again, you're bringing up memorization, the one task we know elephants are excessively good at
Manipulating their environment, sure octopi can do that, but elephants again are better at this than octopi, there's no amount of manipulation an octopus has even been observed to do that requires the sheer level of foresight and planning as elephants maintaining watering holes in deserts in such a way that only the members of their own herd can use it

processing information similarly, that something an octopus is good at, for a mollusc, but they process a lot of information in a completely different, non-centralized fashion compared to mammals, which works out for them for sure, but it does not scale up well

>>713955750
you are aware that this maze is similar to the one he previously made to test squirrels right?

>>713955974
Everything that exists is more intelligent than something that doesn't exist.

>>713955974
dont tell me you're one of those 'Porpoise Truthers'...

>>713954093
Crichton went on a safari once and asked about the Pygmy people and the local guide or something said that the Sultan technically owned all of the animals and the Pygmy's. And then in the first JP book, Dodgson told the board at Biosyn about the need to get the dino dna before Igen could get a copyright on the clone dinos.

So yeah, the JW movies, like the Evolutions games, are surface depth, no complexity whatsoever. You want a discussion on the ethics on cloning and science in general? read Crichton's books.

>>713957048
Nah, Crichton only used what he thought sounded cool, it's why there's the whole gender-switching animal thing in Jurassic because he read about the African reed frog's ability to change sex in captivity. Most of the time he talked about science was demonizing it because he hated science and scientists.