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Anonymous No.713925852 >>713926034 >>713926354 >>713928701 >>713930283 >>713931414 >>713932915 >>713933357 >>713933882
Stop Killing Games
Gaming is now only 40% away from being saved

Sign the petition and spread the message, especially to non-english speaking Euros.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home
Anonymous No.713925956 >>713926034 >>713926204 >>713926282 >>713926354 >>713926575 >>713927584 >>713928015 >>713928169 >>713928435 >>713928621 >>713929649 >>713931982 >>713932082
Can I get feedback on this ad banner? I'm thinking about buying a 4chan ad.
Anonymous No.713926034
>>713925956
>>713925852 (OP)
Anonymous No.713926104 >>713926406 >>713929789
Spite is a hell of a thing for it go from 47% of the way there to 63% in a few days.
Anonymous No.713926204
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/#
we are doing it bros, 30k signatures archived before the end of the day.
>>713925956
Text font is bit too small? Maybe also add a darker outline around the letters too to make them stand out a little bit more.
Anonymous No.713926205 >>713926849
ugh,... cant I just... like... retweet it or something? I dont wanna sign up, what a hassle ugh

#1like1savedchild #iamasocialhero #proud
Anonymous No.713926282
>>713925956
I think it needs bigger letters and less clutter.
Maybe "Stop killing games, nigga"
Anonymous No.713926354 >>713927250 >>713927753 >>713928367 >>713930240
>>713925852 (OP)
>>713925956
I've said this in another thread but
If you want this to be successful you need to start contacting famous people now. Mr. Beast. Gigapopular singers and actors, major celebrities, that kind of thing. And asking them to promote it.
Anonymous No.713926406 >>713928071 >>713928875
>>713926104
It is the will of the increate.

Piratesoftware's popularity was allowed to grow simply so that when everyone turned on him, it would massively fuel signatures for this petition.
Anonymous No.713926575
>>713925956
Make the text bolder so it stands out now. Maybe add "Stop Killing Games" as a title in big letters so it grabs more people's attention. Also capitalize July.
Anonymous No.713926849
>>713926205
It'll feel good
Anonymous No.713927250
>>713926354
*Famous Euro people
Anonymous No.713927252 >>713932730
>autosage
thank furry jannies, gamers do not deserve any human rights, they are disgusting sub humans.
Anonymous No.713927568
Why do the jannies deliberately sabatoge these threads? Do they not want gamers to have rights?
Anonymous No.713927584 >>713928014
>>713925956
It's posted on /v/ all the time. It's probably more effective to print and put somewhere in town (if you're in europe)
Anonymous No.713927753
>>713926354
Henry Cavill
Anonymous No.713927778
imagine being auch a jackass that people start shitting on you in foreign toungues.
Anonymous No.713927862
Finland :DDD, Sweden and Poland confirmed white, Germany carrying raw numbers currently.
Anonymous No.713927970 >>713928060 >>713928195 >>713932295 >>713932594
this is a real honest to God question. what the fuck do you think this petition will do? If it will not generate money for the EU, what makes you think they give a shit?
Anonymous No.713927976
test
Anonymous No.713928014 >>713928294 >>713928353 >>713928384 >>713928459 >>713928621 >>713931982
>>713927584
you're right, I'll target these boards
Anonymous No.713928015
>>713925956
Less text, bigger font, add a subway surfers clip to keep zoomers attention long enough to click on it.
Anonymous No.713928060
>>713927970
Did USB-C on apple products and Steam Refunds generate more money?
Anonymous No.713928071
>>713926406
Thank you Piratesoftware
For turning yourself into a lolcow for our sake
Anonymous No.713928102 >>713928607 >>713928681 >>713928762 >>713928808 >>713931982
Final banner design
Anonymous No.713928169
>>713925956
>no red arrow pointing at nothing
>no soiface close-up or emojis
bro are you even trying?
Anonymous No.713928195 >>713928457
>>713927970
EU is governed by bureaucrats
give them rules to add and laws to write and they'll fucking do it for the pleasure of doing so
Anonymous No.713928294 >>713928681
>>713928014
please don't target vr
it's a slow board and they will either laugh at it or come here insulting us for even MENTIONING online connectivity in videogames
Anonymous No.713928353 >>713928681
>>713928014
How much more expensive is it to target all EU countries? Are you planning to run the ads until 31 July?
Anonymous No.713928367
>>713926354
Kek. Mr.Beast. That dude is bought and paid for. You'd have a better chance of having someone like Henry Cavill promote this.
Anonymous No.713928384 >>713928471 >>713928681 >>713930634
>>713928014
You should probably target /pol/ as well.
Yeah, I know, but still.
Anonymous No.713928435
>>713925956
Bigger letters for one.
Anonymous No.713928457 >>713928984
>>713928195
>people actually doing their job is now bad apparently
Anonymous No.713928459
>>713928014
Solid plan. I agree with the other guy that stopkillinggames) should be bolder. Like much bolder (preferably the reader should see it before they see "EU" twice, because that's not very attention grabbing). I'd also put "initiative" rather than "petition".
Anonymous No.713928471 >>713928818
>>713928384
pol hates videogames, don't bother
Anonymous No.713928607
>>713928102
It's an initiative, not a petition
Anonymous No.713928621
>>713925956 >>713928014
yeah, Im not sure how advertising only on /v/ would be effective, since its mostly Americans and South Americans that post here, maybe extending to having it on /int/ and /trv/ would help?
Anonymous No.713928681 >>713928728 >>713928818
Guys feel free to reuse my banner design and do your own ad campaign. It was surprisingly easy. Final design is here: >>713928102

>>713928294
too late
if it makes you feel better I only spent $20

>>713928353
>How much more expensive is it to target all EU countries?
No difference, but I added most of the big ones.

>Are you planning to run the ads until 31 July?
Yes but I think my budget will run out first.

>>713928384
/pol/ was much more expensive than other boards at ~25 cents per 1000 impressions.
Anonymous No.713928701 >>713928849 >>713928860 >>713928861 >>713928890 >>713928971
>>713925852 (OP)
it reaches 1m
then what?
Anonymous No.713928728
>>713928681
Why not make a short video and buy jewtube/jewgle adsense?
Anonymous No.713928762
>>713928102
Better, however could you move the "not official ad" to under the logo on the left, than you could have more space to enlarge the text. Maybe try few different fonts, to make it as easy to read as possible (nothing wrong with standard Times New Roman, but there could be something nicer out there).
Anonymous No.713928808
>>713928102
I think it needs to be more urgent call to action sounding. Something like,
"EU Citizens, we need your signatures to help push back against corporate greed. You have until July 21st, 2025 to stop them from deleting your games. More info on stopkillingames.com" Also needs bold font
Anonymous No.713928818 >>713928889 >>713929108
>>713928471
They hate the jews and are great at shitflinging. If they get on board just to fuck with the jews they'll do a lot of heavy lifting.
>>713928681
Fair enough.
How does the payment work?
Anonymous No.713928841
>Signatures today: +31,001
Based!
Anonymous No.713928849 >>713929462 >>713929806
>>713928701
Europistans politicians are obligated by law to discuss and hopefully implement a way to play online games offline after End-of-Service for online games being made moving forward (meaning it doesn't apply retroactively).
Anonymous No.713928860
>>713928701
then we go for 1.2m just to be safe because a few signatures are always tossed out
Anonymous No.713928861 >>713929462
>>713928701
the European commission needs to either do it or not do it and needs to answer to it
I am pretty sure that its significant enough that this would get to even to that stage since I dont when that has happened (since you need 1 million signatures and threshold reached from 7 countries)
Anonymous No.713928875
>>713926406
Nobody cares about you dying continent or your obsession with ecelebs, go fellate your local Pakistani child rapist and get off my board.
Anonymous No.713928879
Bless the anon last night for making this:
https://files.catbox.moe/5jxovl.mp4
Anonymous No.713928887
Eceleb threads are off topic
Anonymous No.713928889
>>713928818
>They hate the jews
And here you are expecting them to side with them.
Anonymous No.713928890
>>713928701
then we will finally know how fucked we are.
there are a billion different ways they can still fuck us over
but i will finally have it all, black ink on paper
this is all i ask
Anonymous No.713928919
Well i guess i do have the double citizenship, Might as welll
Anonymous No.713928934 >>713929392
>only 500 signatures today
It's joever
Anonymous No.713928971
>>713928701
They discuss it and then do absolutely nothing.
Anonymous No.713928984 >>713929085 >>713929121
>>713928457
>unelected officials should get to choose most of your laws
Keep licking that boot
Anonymous No.713929085
>>713928984
the eu parliament is not unelected
Anonymous No.713929108
>>713928818
>Fair enough.
>How does the payment work?
It looks like this, it feels legit. It uses "stripe.com".
Anonymous No.713929121
>>713928984
shut the fuck up amerilard just because corporations run your country doesn't mean ours is too
Anonymous No.713929329 >>713929376 >>713929412 >>713933693
Daily reminder that "people" have been spamming /v/ for an entire year with these threads because The Crew doesn't work online anymore
Anonymous No.713929376
>>713929329
Read the SKG FAQ faggot
Anonymous No.713929392 >>713929685 >>713930051
>>713928934
nice bait
Anonymous No.713929412 >>713929658 >>713930759
>>713929329
>you will own nothing, goy
nah i don't think so
i will defend private property and ownership rights
Anonymous No.713929462 >>713929640
>>713928849
>>713928861
I heard wrong then, cause I remember that those signatures should be from eurofags and americans don't matter
Anonymous No.713929640
>>713929462
you need to be citizens of EU (so your country needs to be in the EU) in order for your signature to count
while its not American legislation, the idea is that Brussels effect would do its job and push it as global standard since companies do get fined if they dont follow the EU rules
Anonymous No.713929649
>>713925956
It's already rightfully posted on /v/ all the time.
You should select another place mainly watched by european, but I guess that cookies will help in targetting only them regardless.
Anonymous No.713929658 >>713929804 >>713930113 >>713930862
>>713929412
If you really wanted to defend it you wouldn't be telling people to support corporate interests with this campaign.
I mean, the purpose of this campaign is so you can just shovel money into their gullet.
Anonymous No.713929685 >>713930051
>>713929392
It goes by timezone. nta, but for me it's 0:40 and the daily votes say 680.
Anonymous No.713929758 >>713930451 >>713930568
>get signatures
>request denied, NEXT

thanks for playing
Anonymous No.713929789
>>713926104
The best case scenario would me this winning, and PirateSoftware losing half of the subscribers. It's not the first time he fucks up.
Anonymous No.713929804 >>713929882 >>713930081
>>713929658
A moron who bought Bazz's game has the right to play that game even after its one week lifespan, because he paid money for it.
Anonymous No.713929806 >>713929998 >>713930010 >>713930340
>>713928849
so this is only for GaaS shit
won't sign then, people who buy that garbage deserve nothing
Anonymous No.713929882
>>713929804
Unironically yes.
Bad movies, music and certainly books are saved and preserved, why not bad vidya?
Anonymous No.713929998
>>713929806
And the publishers deserves everything!
you ain't slick, brown.
Anonymous No.713930010
>>713929806
Not even to fuck with those companies:?
Anonymous No.713930051
>>713929685
That's the joke, anon
>>713929392
Bit funny, no?
Anonymous No.713930081 >>713930262 >>713930568
>>713929804
>A moron
And here's the problem, you're morons. You fall for this shit every single time and end up getting fucked because of it and your FOMO tendencies. Do you think that shit will stop if a law is passed?
Fuck no. All you're doing is giving yourselves a false sense of security.
Anonymous No.713930113
>>713929658
First it was commie shit, now it's corpo shit, huh? Care to actually explain the logic of that?
Anonymous No.713930134
>This goes through
>All vidya can be pirated eventually instead of waiting for an autist to reverse engineer server code to trick the game
This is nothing but win-win to me.
Anonymous No.713930240
>>713926354
>eurocucks begging for famous Americans to save them AGAIN
You faggots can't do anything yourselves.
Anonymous No.713930262 >>713931684
>>713930081
It's not meant to stop GaaSlop from being made, if that's what your point is. The point is for said morons to keep the digital garbage they paid for instead of it vanishing to the ether after the publisher pulls the plug.
Anonymous No.713930283 >>713930384
>>713925852 (OP)
I can't sign it because I'm a based Norwegian
Anonymous No.713930340 >>713930469
>>713929806
It's also for single player games that require accounts/internet connections to play.
Anonymous No.713930384
>>713930283
Got any relatives or friends in nearby nordic countries?
Anonymous No.713930451
>>713929758
we are simply asking the French to march into Brussels and revolt, as they normally do when things don't go their way
Anonymous No.713930469
>>713930340
we don't have to worry then, all those games are dogshit
Anonymous No.713930568 >>713931684
>>713929758
thanks for posting, NEXT
>>713930081
i'd rather the illusion of victory compared to the current certainty of defeat
right now, purchases of digital goods do not enjoy the same legal protections physical media have.
this needs to change.
the fact this might make your employers earn less monet matters little to me because i still demand for things to change, because if i pay for a product i am entitled to it. you can try all the word salads you want to denigrate your opponents, because the argument itself has no fallacy. it's simply about having our (already existing) consumer rights protected and expanded.
Anonymous No.713930634
>>713928384
pol is where most of of the /v/ stg threads that didn't get deleted ended up in an year ago. /v/ jannies seethed about them not being vidya and pol jannies hated them for being vidya
Anonymous No.713930719 >>713930801 >>713931139 >>713931505
>SKG passes
>piracy is now even more strictly monitored, virtually killing emulators and old game archives
The monkey's paw curls.
Anonymous No.713930759 >>713930889 >>713930934 >>713931803
>>713929412
Pro killing games is the pro private property and ownership rights position.

IP owners maintaining control over their IP is more important than consumers maintaining control over their licenses.
Anonymous No.713930801 >>713930934
>>713930719
the death of emulation is spearheaded by japan, not europe
Anonymous No.713930862
>>713929658
>SKG is pro corporations
That's a new one
Anonymous No.713930889
>>713930759
>licenses
semitic nonsense that God willing will be outlawed soon
Anonymous No.713930913 >>713931479
Hopefully one day, this spins to the point where people ask that why data that is infinitely reproducible and can be stored theoretically infinitely cannot be "owned" and are expected to die faster than physical medium and starts a whole movement for digital rights.
One step at a time, one step at a time.
Anonymous No.713930934
>>713930759
I better not see you in my private property corponigger or I'll fucking gut you and sell your organs on the black market (you trespassed so I am within my rights)
>>713930801
EU is a much larger entity than Japan, I can see corporations lobbying for it if SKG ever passes.
Anonymous No.713931139
>>713930719
>Turns on VPN
>Wins every single time
Anonymous No.713931331
AI won
Techbros won
Corpos won
Pirate software won
It's over.
Anonymous No.713931414
>>713925852 (OP)
not vaxxed
not boosted
not signed
get a better platform than keeping concord and fortnite alive
Anonymous No.713931479
>>713930913
Expect a bloody fight against all the americans giving their lives and foreskins to protect their corporate overlords before that happens.
Anonymous No.713931505 >>713931685
>>713930719
you're running out of arguments, my guy
Anonymous No.713931684 >>713932360
>>713930262
>It's not meant to stop GaaSlop from being made, if that's what your point is.
Got some mild schizophrenia don't you considering neither of us mentioned GaaS. That's a whole other can of worms not that anyone supporting this can decide on whether or not it kills GaaS or not
Anyway, the point is that you're fighting to give your enemies more money instead of, you know, to see some actual improvement of some kind or a law that benefits consumers in some way because at the end of the day no one is going to give a shit about a few dead shovelware titles when DRM like this is going the way of the dodo anyway considering most don't sell since the PS5 is going down the shitter and PCfags generally have enough standards to not buy a game with performance reducing DRM. So why bother with any of this? The good games like Elden Ring and uh... Doom Eternal? well I haven't personally played too many modern games because they're mostly shit regardless but the point still stands, they won't be taken away.

>>713930568
>i'd rather the illusion of victory compared to the current certainty of defeat
That's genuinely sad. At first I was mocking you guys but now I just feel bad. It's like watching someone make fun of the kids on the special bus.
Anonymous No.713931685
>>713931505
I'm pro-SKG but it's something that came to mind just now. Corporations LOVE getting their grubby hands on your wallet and if they can't do that then they'll do the next best thing which is to prevent you from buying ("buying") another product from a competitor (who's not even earning money outside of probably donations).
Anonymous No.713931803 >>713931870 >>713931890 >>713932014 >>713932193 >>713932569
>>713930759
If I sell you programming code, for something you need to use, and then I actually put in a necessary online component that I can shut off any time I want, and I do not tell you about it beforehand, you just know it has online integration abilities, then that is a felony fraud / theft.

How is a video-game any different? No new laws are needed, it's already illegal but the executive has failed to enforce the law.

Similarly, microtransactions require a game to be rated A for adult only, especially loot boxes which introduce gambling, which would also ban said game in a number of places.

You people against STOP KILLING GAMES do not even possess a basic understanding of law.

Then again, you don't believe in owning anything, given you're a bunch of slaves who don't even own their own minds. This is about more than gaming. Everything shit in this world is connected through the sewers.
Anonymous No.713931870 >>713931973 >>713932242 >>713932746
>>713931803
they told you that the game might not work forever, you knew that anyways, you are just pretending to be stupid and everybody knows it
Anonymous No.713931890 >>713932242
>>713931803
>then that is a felony fraud / theft.
It would fall under that if you sold them the full totality of your rights to your code by the way. Otherwise you just sold them a license to it.
Anonymous No.713931973 >>713932746
>>713931870
>they told you that the game might not work forever
On the page 138 of the EULA, and they still haven't told you WHEN the game is gonna stop working, is a requirement by law whenever you're renting something.
Anonymous No.713931982 >>713932132
>>713925956
>>713928014
>>713928102
How much is it to buy an ad here? I'll do one too if it's only like 100-300 USD

Anyways, i'd try to include text in other languages as well, and to target /a/, /int/, /co/, /tg/ /g/, etc as well, ideally
Anonymous No.713932014
>>713931803
>You people against STOP KILLING GAMES do not even possess a basic understanding of law.
You're saying that but the first line of your post just shows how little you know about IP law.
Anonymous No.713932082
>>713925956
What about “sign this petition or your mother will die in her sleep?”
Anonymous No.713932132
>>713931982
The minimum budget is $20, go for it king.
Anonymous No.713932193 >>713932354
>>713931803
>I do not tell you about it beforehand, you just know it has online integration abilities, then that is a felony fraud / theft.
You are already warned beforehand in the license agreement that the software can be rendered inoperable at any time for any reason or even no reason at all. That said, I do concede the SKG side might have a point that the average user not understanding that, and do think a more clarifying warning label could be a sort of compromise.
Anonymous No.713932242 >>713932404
>>713931890
>>713931870
THE POINT IS THERE IS NOTHING IN THE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THESE GAMES OR ON THE BOX THAT TELLS US IT WILL STOP WORKING ARBITRARILY!

When you go to buy a game, you don't sign a license agreement anyway, and an online license agreement is null and void because if they wanted it proper they would have made you aware of agreement at time of purchase. And if you had bought the game, and never connected online, theoretically your license value was stolen from you at best and you were falsely promised the license in the first place.

Absolute best case scenario, it's false advertisement.
Anonymous No.713932295
>>713927970
Im not European so I dont know,
But I think the USBCshit for apple was just a bunch of old retards pissed off that the thousands of cables in their junk drawer couldnt charge their phone or they were at a friends house and "sorry I have android" 1 too many times.
It wouldnt surprise me if the EU goes all "Well movies are licenses and thats been fine for me, I dont care if they kill your faggy Overwatch game, WHY BACK IN MY DAY OVERWATCH WAS WHEN YOU STOOD GUARD WHILE THE REST OF YOUR PLATOON SLEPT IN THEIR BUNKS!"
Anonymous No.713932297 >>713932383
I still think terms like "This license can be revoked for any or no reason" is so extremely hostile that it shouldn't even exist in the first place.
Anonymous No.713932354
>>713932193
Is that on the box? Where is it on the sealed packaging for The Crew "this game will no longer function when we say so"?

You're obviously some rich kid shill, a disgrace to all that is right and lawful. The law is about what is right, otherwise it is illegitimate and just a slavery tool to prevent the deaths of the whip wielders.
Anonymous No.713932360 >>713933261
>>713931684
>Got some mild schizophrenia don't you considering neither of us mentioned GaaS
I equated GaaS, online games and single-player games that require online connection for whatever reason as one thing.
>the point is that you're fighting to give your enemies more money instead of, you know, to see some actual improvement of some kind or a law that benefits consumers in some way because at the end of the day no one is going to give a shit about a few dead shovelware titles when DRM like this is going the way of the dodo anyway considering most don't sell since the PS5 is going down the shitter and PCfags generally have enough standards to not buy a game with performance reducing DRM.
What kinda law can make developers make good games instead of "UE5/Unityslop that lags like fuck" in 2025? You can't mandate that shit, taste is subjective. Even if something is universally considered "good", who's to say that it won't be rehashed ad nauseam? It's just a fact of life that we have the good with the bad.
If SKG passes, a future online game that I might potentially like playing will forever be playable on whatever machine I use even if the publisher pulled the plug on official game servers.
Anonymous No.713932383 >>713932447 >>713932450 >>713932495 >>713932620 >>713932687
>>713932297
It is a necessary concession in order to maintain the integrity of property ownership rights.
Anonymous No.713932404 >>713932596
>>713932242
But I keep hearing that the EU is great because you can get refunds for games. If you buy the game you can just refund it if you disagree with the EULA.
Anonymous No.713932447
>>713932383
I don't own the Quake IP because I run a few servers. Same with Unreal.
Anonymous No.713932450
>>713932383
proof?
Anonymous No.713932495
>>713932383
>we must give up our rights so that mr shekelberg can have the right to milk us out of more money
Anonymous No.713932569
>>713931803
>and I do not tell you about it beforehand
It's funny that you say this because every game with DRM in it that could potentially render the game unusable has it on the box.
Not to mention it's also brought up before the release of the game.
https://kotaku.com/ubisofts-next-gen-racing-game-is-always-online-they-e-512250025
Excuse the Kotaku link but that's the first that came up either way the link proves it all and it was in 2013, one year before the game released.
Anonymous No.713932594
>>713927970
>think
This is an e-celeb thread anon. Some youtuber told them to spam here
Anonymous No.713932596 >>713932695 >>713932705 >>713933589
>>713932404
Then EVERYONE should be able to refund The Crew in the EU. But Ubisoft is ran by slave owners, so of course all they care about is money, absolutely none of them care about the law, or if the company crashes. Every last one of them works to cash out and steal the sweat from the game creators and customers alike. ALL of it is slavery, and if you guys weren't already suffering stockholm syndrome you would be calling for all they have stolen to be returned.
Anonymous No.713932620
>>713932383
Retard.
Anonymous No.713932687 >>713932995
>>713932383
Do you see Indie game developers putting that crap in LARGE RED ALL CAPS text on their steam front pages? What you're saying is absolute lunacy and has no bearing in reality.
Anonymous No.713932695 >>713932840
>>713932596
You speak like a redditor
Anonymous No.713932705 >>713932840
>>713932596
If you're under slavery you don't ask for your money back lmao, you ask for freedom
Anonymous No.713932730
>>713927252
SKG topics stay up and they almost always reach their limit
>t. been to 15 so far
Anonymous No.713932746
>>713931870
But why should be that way? Just remove the goddamn online checks. It's not rocket science, and it's not a cost either.

This kind of programmed obsolescence is to avoid self-competition. Game deletion is a corporate dream.

This kinda reminds me of Warzone. It was great, but they decided to make new ones, instead to upgrade the first game, only to force you to start the new ones with 0 skins. It was all to sell skins.

>>713931973
Reading the EULA is useless anyway, because they can change it any day at any time. This must be regulated too, how is this legal?!
Anonymous No.713932840 >>713932918 >>713933296
>>713932695
You react like a stupid animal slave.

>>713932705
You do NOT "ask" for freedom. Freedom is your inalienable right. It can't be taken from you. No matter what they do to you, you can always tell them to go fuck themselves.
Anonymous No.713932915
>>713925852 (OP)
I just signed it but i doubt it will help, people are just retarded and love getting fucked in the ass by companies.
Anonymous No.713932918 >>713933015
>>713932840
>no u
OK bootlicker
Anonymous No.713932940 >>713933091 >>713933386 >>713933742
Why is this suddenly gaining a lot more signatures per day
Anonymous No.713932995 >>713933087
>>713932687
Most small indie developers do not have the resources to implement central server dependence to protect their IP ownership. Typically only large corporations have the money to build and maintain central servers. If small indies had the necessary money and resources, many might indeed choose to implement the same central server dependencies for IP protection and put in such large red all caps disclaimers.
Anonymous No.713933015 >>713933152
>>713932918
You have a development disorder, that's what childish trolling is. You are the filth underneath the shoe of your masters and you do their bidding. This has been a problem for over 2000 years, if you've heard.
Anonymous No.713933038 >>713933109 >>713933136 >>713933195 >>713933224 >>713933257 >>713933352 >>713933364 >>713933442 >>713933572
Going to be funny when even less AAA video games get made because the new model has to allow for players to le own it forever
Anonymous No.713933087 >>713933317
>>713932995
Yet that isn't how game development had been or needed to be for decades, that is only a recent phenomena, so do you have any valid point to bring up? The way things are now is wrong.
Anonymous No.713933091
>>713932940
An idiot that purposely spead misinformation, killing the petition, finally got called out.
Maybe we can actully win if we keep going in the same way.
Anonymous No.713933109 >>713933165
>>713933038
GOOD
CUT THE BUDGETS
FORCE AAA STUDIOS TO SHIT OUT TEN AA GAMES EVERY YEAR
AND ALL OF THEM NEED TO BE NEW IPs
Anonymous No.713933136
>>713933038
>Going to be funny when even less AAA video games get made
fucking yes
Anonymous No.713933152
>>713933015
Why do you bootlickers seethe so much?
Anonymous No.713933165 >>713933196 >>713933260
>>713933109
Nah we'll just sell games in Asia where these laws dont exist
Anonymous No.713933195
>>713933038
*fewer
Anonymous No.713933196
>>713933165
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.713933224 >>713933276 >>713933337
>>713933038
It would be bad for gaming if this got passed, but right now it's mostly a handful of discord shills and a youtuber pushing it
Anonymous No.713933257
>>713933038
All of these game failures lately are even worse than you think for AAA. Even if you say they still make a profit, the problem is if the other companies make a far bigger profit, they squeeze you or buy you out. So a AAA game is actually a total failure if it doesn't result in 10X its investment more than once. It's a harsh cold world in the economic landscape of AAA development. Right now all they are doing is trying to monopolize, one of them is trying to "win" it all and be able to microtransaction all of humanity if it were possible. All they care about is money, you have little idea just how evil their actions really are, and how stupid the shills are on here to defend it. They too will be round up eventually like the animals they are.
Anonymous No.713933260
>>713933165
>we
You haven't even finished your RPGMaker game yet, maldavius.
Anonymous No.713933261 >>713933698
>>713932360
>I equated GaaS, online games and single-player games that require online connection for whatever reason as one thing.
Yeah, don't do that, they're all completely different things.
>What kinda law can make developers make good games instead of "UE5/Unityslop that lags like fuck" in 2025?
That's the beauty of it, not buying the shitty games does that too. if they have failure or controversy one after the other then they're going to get the message and improve. We've seen it happen time and time again but the issue is that people like you start forming parasocial relationships with companies seeing them as friends that can do no wrong and defend their every action until a bigger "friend" tells you otherwise but I digress.
> It's just a fact of life that we have the good with the bad.
Anon that saying doesn't refer to choices but rather random moments or things like heartbreak. With entertainment you have the choice and ability to look into what you're buying to see if it's good or aligns with your personal morals. That's why I don't buy games with DRM.
> a future online game that I might potentially like playing will forever be playable on whatever machine I use even if the publisher pulled the plug on official game servers.
That's if they don't loophole it. They could make a GaaS game and be exempt since it's a game as a service and not a game as goods alternatively they could shut down the original game and then put out some kind of remake with save transfers to make you buy it again for the next console or on PC with specs beyond your current one.

You need to stop being so hopeful that everything will magically go right and focus on what can go wrong because that's what the companies do to find avenues to exploit.
I mean, why do you think none of them have even so much as acknowledged any potential downsides for them yet?
Anonymous No.713933276
>>713933224
>It would be bad for gaming if this got passed
How so?
Anonymous No.713933296 >>713933506
>>713932840
>Freedom is your inalienable right. It can't be taken from you
Did you sleep through the entirety of 2020 and 2021?
Anonymous No.713933317 >>713933515 >>713933634
>>713933087
In the past, the technology wasn't quite there yet to make always online central server dependence economically feasible. It is a recent phenomena because the technology advanced to make it a practical solution for defending property right ownership.
Anonymous No.713933337
>>713933224
How? Because owning is le communism?
Anonymous No.713933352
>>713933038
who cares
Anonymous No.713933357 >>713933436 >>713933618
>>713925852 (OP)

Do I have to live in Europe to sign this particular petition?
Anonymous No.713933364 >>713933428
>>713933038
>Fewer AAA games get made because people will keep playing the old games
>That means more risks with new games would have to be made to ensure people just don't ask why should I keep playing an old game?
Anonymous No.713933386
>>713932940
because the piratesoftware drama has caused it to start spreading
there are even new news articles about the Inititave again, at least in Germany
Anonymous No.713933428
>>713933364
*shouldn't.
Anonymous No.713933436
>>713933357
You have to be an EU citizen.
Anonymous No.713933442
>>713933038
what if I wanted to buy concorc in 2027 for $1.99??
Anonymous No.713933506
>>713933296
I didn't shop at places that absolutely forced masking. They can't make anyone do anything against our basic rights. Plenty of people didn't mask and the others would be afraid to enforce it, as they should be. To be sure, when history is written eternally, all that is going to matter is what will be written, and in those records the pushers behind it will be regarded as animals.
Anonymous No.713933515
>>713933317
Look at me guys, I own Half Life because I run a sven co-op server!
Go fuck yourself.
Anonymous No.713933572
>>713933038
>less AAA games get made because they don't wanna put more budget into games
>games hover into AA where they take more risks with development like on PS2
hell yeah
Anonymous No.713933581 >>713933681 >>713933925
Okay, you can be honest.
How many people are here because they genuinely believe this might make the current gaming death spiral worse?
Anonymous No.713933582
>more AA games and less AAA ones
fuck yeah, this is the future I want
Anonymous No.713933589 >>713933714
>>713932596
>Then EVERYONE should be able to refund The Crew in the EU.
Here's the thing, refunds are what, 14 days if it works and 2 if it doesn't? They're under no obligation to provide refunds for a 10-11? year old game under current EU law.
Anonymous No.713933618
>>713933357
I don't think you have to live there, but you have to be an EU citizen with an ID card. Even faster with an eID. I don't know if an expired ID card is still valid.
Anonymous No.713933634
>>713933317
You mean preventing piracy? Because IP ownership rights are copyrights and those have plenty of protections. Piracy prevention is a different topic and does not relate to what STOP KILLING GAMES attempts to address. Besides, we can work out these details later. But to say there should be no improvement or changes in any way whatsoever would be totally insane.
Anonymous No.713933681
>>713933581
Either the industry shapes up and bursts the bubble of inflated budgets or shrivels and dies in a death spiral.
Either way, I am ensured that whatever game I purchase is one I own.
Win-win.
Anonymous No.713933693
>>713929329
>for an entire year
False, mostly through first month and now
Anonymous No.713933698
>>713933261
>That's the beauty of it, not buying the shitty games does that too. if they have failure or controversy one after the other then they're going to get the message and improve.
I already do vote with my wallet. The problem are investors with infinite money that continue making unreasonable demands and checklists for developers. It's a shitty situation where not doing anything is already the best you can do.
>You need to stop being so hopeful that everything will magically go right and focus on what can go wrong because that's what the companies do to find avenues to exploit.
It's a best-case scenario, definitely, and is the reason I mainly support SKG. And even if that doesn't happen, I'm willing to compromise unless the loopholes are so large the law, if it does pass, might as well not exist. In which case I'm back to waiting for a continuation to this movement.
Anonymous No.713933714
>>713933589
Then the law is not right and must be changed, which STOP KILLING GAMES seeks to activate.
Anonymous No.713933742 >>713933927
>>713932940
Ross didn't want to start drama, but piratesoftware could not help himself and keeps spreading misinformation. So ross finally made a response video after 10 months.
Anonymous No.713933882
>>713925852 (OP)
Should have started a meaninful campaign fucking months ago. Why did you wait until the last minute to get ecelebs involved?
Anonymous No.713933925
>>713933581
It either gets better or it dies and is reborn. I win either way.
Anonymous No.713933927
>>713933742
I think Ross was afraid of tainting the movement with drama, but decided it was lost so he wanted to fight back.