>Highest skill ceiling
>Huge playerbase
>Loads of mods
Why did you give up on playing Team Fortress 2?

>>713934993 (OP)
>>Huge playerbase

>Highest skill ceiling
any decent arenafps mogs tf2 skillwise, including openfortress.

>>713934993 (OP)
i didn't
I just played TF2C
i'll probably never stop playing until a game can replicate the FaN and the cleaver

>>713934993 (OP)
I miss the community server I used to hang out on every weekend

>>713934993 (OP)
>Why did you give up on playing Team Fortress 2?
Trannies infesting the community and Valve letting botfags roam free, those two things and I just stopped playing games as much

>loads of mods
>played by none

>>713934993 (OP)
>>Loads of mods

>>713934993 (OP)
>Why did you give up on playing Team Fortress 2?
Tranny infestation

>Loads of mods
Am I missing something?
I've looked for mods for this game and it's very scarce. Genuinely asking, because if there are actually a lot of them out there I might be looking in the wrong places.

lots of bullshit started after it went free to play.
>sniper bots
>the move away from server browser to matchmaking
>the tsunami of new items that i don't care about
>tauntsliding patched out (this one is the most upsetting, verily)

TF2 was really great when each class had only a couple of loadout options.

>>713936440
theres a bunch of bs on gamebanana that amounts to skins/aimations etc.
There's a couple source mods out there like Openfotress which is TF2 but quake and TF2 Classic which is like tf2 circa 2009 but from an alternate universe
both are a lot of fun but not as populated, you generally have to wait for weekends to find servers that aren't just 24/7's. iirc both (tf2c for sure) to release on steam as official free products after valve gave out the TF2 SDK earlier this year
>>713936745
>TF2 was really great when each class had only a couple of loadout options.
why is that? Genuine question. I also agree that there's a lot of bloat but I generally prefer having options

>>713934993 (OP)
TF2 is not even the best Fortress-style game

>>713936745
>tauntsliding patched out (this one is the most upsetting, verily)
It was out of necessity due to how moving taunt like conga works

>>713936882
>why is that?
I can only guess at an answer -- when options were limited, each class had very specific strengths and weaknesses (with some fuzzy edges, provided by the few alternate loadouts). Now, when there're a billion options, the capabilities of each class are much less distinguishable; when you encounter an enemy, you have no idea what he's capable of -- there are simply too many possibilities.
Basically what I think I'm saying is that the game is less coherent. The classes have less of an identity.
Something like that.

>>713937412
>Basically what I think I'm saying is that the game is less coherent. The classes have less of an identity.
i would disagree with that though because the unlocks added after each class got their updates (i assume that's what that original anon was referring to) haven't branched out beyond that with only a few exceptions
Most weapons are just stat swaps of stock that don't amount to much difference wise
>>713936947
which is?

>>713937797
NTF or QWTF itself but TF2 players don't want to

1)Learn the concept of pickups (required to get matches going in older games)
2)Abandon their item inventory

>meet your match
>bots
>pandering to competitive autism
>nerfing tons of fun sidegrades into the ground
>casual is an objective downgrade from quick play in every regard even when it functions
>only community servers left are furry pound, skial and inceltopia
>player base still gave valve millions upon millions for cosmetics and thought a petition and a twitter hashtag would make them perform basic maintenence on the game after 8 years of neglect
I got out in 2015 and never looked back.

>>713938080
>NTF
is that TFC? I've never heard of NTF
>QWTF
what about the old mod is better in your opinion? As someone who likes TF2 at least over TFC i found TF2 cuts out a lot of the more annoying elements and gives you more options to play

>>713938879
NTF is TF for Quake 3/Quake Live
>what about the old mod is better in your opinion?
By far the most in-depth movement and conc jumping makes the skill ceiling shoot into the stratosphere

>>713939136
>NTF is TF for Quake 3/Quake Live
huh, never heard of that, maybe i'll try it out one of these days
>By far the most in-depth movement and conc jumping makes the skill ceiling shoot into the stratosphere
that's probably true, personally though I really dislike the grenades in TFC. Too spammy and no animation makes them really annoying to play against

Nothing will ever replace the peak freak fortress 2 days.
There is simply no other 31 vs 1 boss game out there...

>>713934993 (OP)
I still hop one 2fort 24/7 servers for half an hour pretty regularly.

>>713938725
it seems like whoever is working on tf2 is starting to listen, the bots are practically gone, they've undone muting f2ps, and the new mvm update is almost certainly going to be testing ground for some sort of new matchmaking system after halloween last year really stressed it
i'm cautiously optimistic for the future

>>713934993 (OP)
>Huge playerbase

>>713935226
And yet nobody plays them

>>713939707
What a cutey

>>713936882
>Skins

Problem is that valve clamped on those and casual don't let you use anything more fancy than hud or hitsounds. You need a whole mental gymnastic to use skins in casual servers.

>>713940902
>Problem is that valve clamped on those and casual don't let you use anything more fancy than hud or hitsounds
https://gamebanana.com/wips/79779
^this should allow any mod compatible with it to be loaded in casual

>>713940330
fuck you mean "and yet"? high skill ceilings are usually not very popular.

>>713941052
That's what I'm talking about, you can't just shove on custom folder and play with those.

TF2 should've stopped getting updates ages ago and it would've been a better game for it. Too many weapons in the sandbox that don't have a real purpose muddying up the core gameplay. Even the shit/useless/goofball weapons are a problem because people still use them. It's not a lot of fun when you join the team and you've got people running around with meme loadouts being absolutely useless to the team.

>>713934993 (OP)
>>Highest skill ceiling
>spamming explosive rockets that hit large radius and can one hit enemies is skill

>>713936062
Is there a decently sized online community that isn't infested with trannies?

>>713941857
now land 3 airshots in a row

>>713934993 (OP)
Casual mode is not fucking fun, I miss hour-long maps

>>713941747
it's so frustrating how TF2 is in this state where it's not quite abandoned but any sort of balance changes are completely off the table, even if they're simple and obvious

>>713941747
fuck off comptard

>>713941970
Why would i need to if shooting the ground gets me kills regardless

>>713942138
ok, so you're below the ceiling. got it

>>713942092
i don't understand the point of your image.

>>713936062
>>713941928
oh mein gott a few pride flags and anime avatars! my game is unplayable now! is that all it takes to gatekeep you?

>>713942451
It doesn't bother me when it's probably the only online game you can get away with bullying the shit out of them.
Dominations, Schadenfreudes and an unmoderated chat are gifts unique to TF2.
But god help us all if it's a troon duo with complimentary profile pictures and usernames that consists of a medic glued to their thousand-hour pocket. The two flirting over the chat the entire time.

>>713941747
>too many weapons
this is the dumbest complaint and it's always made by a faggot. I love playing with all of the different weapons that change the dynamic of the game to counter other classes and keeps it interesting. kys

>>713934993 (OP)
>Why did you give up on playing Team Fortress 2?
My account got hacked and all my stuff got stolen and Valve wouldn't help me.

>>713942092
I've never played a game of competitive TF2 in my life and I think shit like 6's is silly as hell. But just because a game isn't "competitively designed" doesn't mean we need to flood the sandbox with gmod-tier weapons and dilute the game's original flow/purpose.

>>713942070
"Balancing" TF2 is kind of a moot point now since the problem isn't so much that some weapons are broken or just need to be touched up, but more that many weapons just shouldn't exist at all and now they've put themselves in this situation where they need to clean up their own mess and it's not like they can just remove the offending weapons. The more weapons that fall into this category, the more difficult this becomes exponentially.

Well, I guess that's what mods are for. I should look into what people are doing since they released the Source tools or whatever.

I don't know, the game just, lost its charm...

>>713943869
long way down

playing demo with loose canon and quickiebomb launcher would have been nerfed if they were still updating the game.

>>713943667
Thing about Demo is that while he has a decently low skill-floor, he has a skill ceiling even higher than Sniper. Although i'd argue it's more intuition ceiling of knowing when and where to fire pipes and place traps.
He has the potential to dominate the entire enemy team while being impossible to take down.

>>713934993 (OP)
>Highest skill ceiling
It's like playing in a puddle compared to Apex.

>>713934993 (OP)
My IQ wasn't high enough and I hit my skill ceiling with a kdr of 0.6 after 7,000 hours while sweating.

>>713934993 (OP)
I tried TF2 for about a week when it released. The game was just too slow and had no grenades, so I went back to the previous TF games.

>>713944234
I can't tell if I'm imagining it or if somewhere over the years, Valve made it MUCH harder to hit a damn thing with his stock grenade launcher. Kind of a shame since I think it's way more fun than running around airbursting stickies.

>>713934993 (OP)
I didn't. But it is really hard to find good people to interact with in this game.
A good 50% of the player base is either a tranny, a furry, a pedophile, or some combination of the three. Another 25% are dumb kids and third worlders.

>>713936440
There is literally years worth of custom assets on the workshop and game banana. Thousands of community made maps, lots of interesting server plugins, and of course complete forks of the game like Open Fortress, TF2C, Prefortress 2, and Lambada Fortress.

>>713944559
To my knowledge only the Iron Bomber's projectile hitboxes were nerfed. Some argue there's a matter of luck in landing pipes with stock and it may have just not been on your side.

>>713941857
>>spamming explosive rockets that hit large radius and can one hit enemies is skill
I never understand arguments like this. You can get kills against morons in all kinds of ways. W+M1ing is a very easy way to get kills, but if you're skilled, you'll be able to kill a pyro that tries to do that to you. Dying to spam is something that shouldn't happen if you're skilled enough.

I gave up on TF2 when Valve gave up on the design principles with which it was first made.

>>713947835
oh yeah, you were a hardcore fan I'm sure. fucking faggot.

>>713948025
My my, someone has a chip on their shoulder about being a plebeian.

>>713948236
you haven't played in a decade, but you show up in every thread to let us know that you are still alive, which we are always disappointed.

>>713948569
I'm not disappointed.

>>713948025
I have a gold badge and a bunch of "genuine" items or whatever the fuck they called that. So yes.
>>713948569
I am not your boogeyman but I am glad that he exists because you clearly deserve the assdevastation that he inflicts upon you.

>>713948689
I guess I am too old to understand you fucking faggots, there is only a feminine negativity that exudes all of the posts on this dead website.

Thank you for revealing yourself, bot. Ask your maintainer to retrain with a better dataset.

>>713934993 (OP)
>highest skill ceiling
That's not Counter Strike in the picture tho?

My internet was shit so I never got big into private servers so meet your match isn't as big of a deal to me. I've never really been a private server guy I always seem to get into conflict with the mods/owners even on my best behaviour. Or they try to bring me into their inner circle and fuck over people on their server

>AI is calling you faggots now because it has been well trained.
OH NO NO NO

>>713934993 (OP)
>huge playerbase
lmao you mean the bots? admit TF2 is finally dead, everyone is playing roblox or fortnite

>pretending that a bot directed to agitate would give honest analysis
lmao

Three possibilities:
>It's a bot
>It's a troll
>It's genuine retarded insanity
In any case, it's best ignored. And, in any case, it's truly pathetic.

>he's calling people bots in a thread about a game he doesn't play
kek

>>713949631
the thread is about why you stopped playing TF2 idiot.

>>713947835
>this post was the opportunity for someone to vomit retardation on the thread
Man I wish people had stayed on the altchans after 4chan came back up. It was nice there.

>>713949749
oh so this is like some old homo club, I thought it was /tf2/ general on /v/

>quoting only "bot" and ignoring the other options
>now attaching a pepe to every post because "bots don't use images"
Definitely a bot.

>schizo level is increasing
I can also post video. Just admit you sucked at the game and were an asshole and nobody wanted to play with you anymore and you are bitter about it. It's happened to me.

>someone posted one of only two criticisms about TF2 and now I am getting all retarded about it
?

>output has degraded too much to be believable as a human poster
>have been called a bot
>ACTIVATE SMUG TROLLING ROUTINE

>highest skill ceiling
tf2 trannies are delusional

>>713950510
wow getting pocketed is great

>TF2
>SKILL
If people really need to move on and player other FPS games.

>>713950992
what like.... day z? rust?

>>713950510
>never faces any real opposition until the heavy
>one of the most notorious chokepoints of video game history
>medic up ass
>playing against bot level players

>>713934993 (OP)
>Why did you give up on playing Team Fortress 2?
Need new gaymer PC, saving up for a gud won.

i should have sold my buds when they were at their peak

>>713950510
I feel like I always get assigned to the enemy team displayed in this webm

>>713939707
https://youtu.be/5IU32ZguQXw
>enter commu 24/7 ff2 sv
>entering vsh_manncohq, get to be saxton hale
>pick mlg sniper
>IBROKEUPWITHMYEXGIRL.mp3/earrape starts playing
>Map change, now it's deathrun
>dr_psykopat
>half team dying in the first hallway trap and the other half taunting in the fnaf frame room
>changing to Prophunt map
>everyone leaves
i only got to experience the 2014-15 wave of it, but it was the best time of my life and i miss it every single fucking day

>play heavy
>get pocket
>turn on the hit ding sounds
>find the pixel that makes the ding sound and clench my wrist and nail it until they die really fast
>get called a hacker

kek the heavy reticle used to be a giant circle and I would draw a pin size dot on the screen and exploit almost every fps ever made. I have never been a fag that used aimbots.

>>713950510
>Phlog Pyro on Dustbowl
lol, lmao even. Just play a real map

>>713954624
/v/ loves dustbowl thoughbeit

TF2 never used to be political. I'm not sure why /v/ is trying to remake this game to be about the election, but it's over and no one cares. The Furry Pound has existed for 15+ years and no one has had a problem with it until now.

>>713934993 (OP)
>neat idea
>meme graphics
>millennial appeal
I tried it once, and was bored straight.

>>713955425
faggot

>>713934993 (OP)
Have 4k hours on the game, but most of that is from 2011-2016. Still play the game these days, but it's for like a week or two before I drop the game again until next year. Most of my time was spent on custom gamemodes like freak fortress, randomizer, and those Mario kart maps. But all of the servers I used to play on are either dead, or deleted, and none of my friends from those days play the tf2 anymore, or play console games now instead of PC games. When I do play these days it's entirely casual mode valve servers.

>>713934993 (OP)
>Why did you give up on playing Team Fortress 2?
The community became woke for no reason.

>>713934993 (OP)
0 balance patches

>>713943061
This. I'm starting to believe that the majority of takes come from people who have less than 100 hours in the game, kek.

Because S4League was the superior experience, the grey aliens, cabal, singularity, AIs, Blizzard knows it.

>>713940312
None of that matters because the game is almost 20 years old, and the large portion of the playerbase has moved on to other games. Most of the people who play nowadays weren't even around when server browsing was a thing.

>>713943667
>But just because a game isn't "competitively designed" doesn't mean we need to flood the sandbox with gmod-tier weapons and dilute the game's original flow/purpose.
thank god someone said it. Shit like the sandman cleaver combo should've never existed, but it did and now for the next decade we'll have dumbasses decrying it no longer existing

>>713943667
>isn't so much that some weapons are broken or just need to be touched up, but more that many weapons just shouldn't exist at all
i agree there's a lot of weapon bloat, two examples are like the sun on a stick or the southern hospitality which just fill inventories and see no real usage, but people will try and scheme ways to make them viable all while just muddying what's there like you said. I think there are weapons that are worth using though, sidegrades that could use some tweaking and the game would be a lot better for it
>Well, I guess that's what mods are for
TF2 Classic is your best bet in that regard, although they make some weird and questionable changes at times but also some of the best I've seen yet for TF2. I'd recommend trying it out at least

>>713943869
i dont get it

>>713962731
hats and cosmetics=no sovl.

>>713934993 (OP)
I didn't give up, only low T faggots give up
its still the best MP game of all time, nothing will top it

>>713934993 (OP)
Most casual online game,now filled with fucking trannies and all kind of degenerate scum.

TF2 died back in 2010.

>>713934993 (OP)
>Highest skill ceiling
Compfags and jewtubers need to stop gassing up TF2 as if it's some uber hardcore MLG shit.
It's not, and being one of the greatest casual multiplayer shooters games ever made it why it's good, not some sperg's 600hp Upward roll out, or some lame competitive scene that's been running on fumes straight out of B4nny's ass for the last decade.

>>713934993 (OP)
>highest skill ceiling
Even Valve's other two multiplayer games have higher skill ceiling lmao
TF2 is literally the most casual of the trinity

>>713966668
>>713966968
Simply untrue, tf2 far exceeds cs, hldm, gmod, or any any other Valve game,engine product.

>>713944330
No way this is a real game portrait

>>713967421
TF2 was considered extremely casual for the time it released and had active live support, even compared to it's predecessor Team Fortress Classic.
It was only until youtubers started pushing TF2 as "the next Smash Bros" towards the end of it's live service lifespan did anyone consider TF2 anywhere near a valid competitive game.

ill occasionally go on for some surf but stopped playing mostly when delfys server went down

>>713934993 (OP)
I still do play it occasionally though.

>Engineer mains will defend this

>>713934993 (OP)
I had enough after 1000 hours plus new maps are dogshit

>>713968889
Engie sucks the fun factor of matches by about 50%, 80% if he has a pyro dicksucker but matches go by just too fast without him