Sorry, I'm not a jaded faggot like you.

Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Sekiro and Armored Core VI are still masterpieces.

Them falling for open world slop and mutliplayer slop doesn't change that.

fpbp+spbp
we still don't know what A and B team are working on

>>713939432
>>713939350
Roll back to your general

>>713939242 (OP)
Elden Ring is slop but the rest are ok

It was a good series up until Dark Souls 1 got released.

>>713939242 (OP)
DS3 and ER are slop
You can only reuse so many assets before people get tired. ER is especially guilty of this by padding out the areas with shitty pallet swaps, once you got out of Liurnia you've seen 80% of the enemy types you encounter through out the game.
DS3 is basically just reused assets the game, honestly Andre in the first 30 minutes just shameless behavior.

>>713939432
Agree on open world.
Mixed on multiplayer.
I didn't get Nightrein because it looked like an asset flip, but it looks more fun than me running through the Ringed City a hundred times with randoms.

>>713940040
Elden Ring has the most variety of any 3D action game. You've probably never played it and definitely are transexual.

>>713939242 (OP)
When I realized how poorly put together the games are on the backend

After second half of DaS1 then I just realized it was all slop since KF and dismissed them entirely.

Since the beginning. Nothing has changed but the unwarranted reception and the industry going on a decline.

>take souls formula
>harnesses best parts of bloodborne and sekiro
>surpasses the source inspirations
>transcends the source material

god damn lies of p is kino

>>713939242 (OP)
At 3 but it wasn't until Elden Ring that I entirely lost hope for them ever changing course

>>713942434
>takes garbage
>produces garbage
>makes shit game
Wow

>>713939242 (OP)
yea but its all kino slop

>>713942434
>unreal engine slop
>gook slop
too many slop flags for me to care to try it.

CoD and FIFA redskins have more change overtime than Fromshitware.

Once I beat Dark Souls 1 and got past pirate town in 2 I realized it was the same game. I tried bloodborne and found out the "difficulty" was grinding heals. I tried ER, got up to the Castle by the big fuck erdtree and found out they even reused a fucking story boss.

Sony was right to call Demon's Souls shit. The whole Fromsoft shtick ran its course and people are finally waking up how terrible they really were.

After the 5th or 6th award-winning 10/10 game, I can't keep track. I was like nah this is too much.

>>713939242 (OP)
Playing Dark Souls III I realized Miyazaki is a one-trick poney. I don't think they're bad games at all, but they guy just recycles the same gameplay, same lore, same bosses every time. Maybe Sekiro is different, I haven't played that one yet.

>>713939242 (OP)
When I had to wait until DS2 to roll diagonally.

>>713939242 (OP)
When they got too popular to be cool

>>713939242 (OP)
During ds3 times
Lost all interest when I finished er. Havent even played dlc yet and never will.

>>713944004
The DLC fixes Elden Ring, trust me bro, it becomes a different game.

>>713939242 (OP)
I thought it was awesome up until dark souls. thought ds2 was mediocre and then didnt care for the rest. night reign is better than eldin ring, but that might because its a "fun with friends" game. It does kinda have a gantz vibe of just being dumped in a place and forced to kill random dudes vibe though, but I couldnt give less of a shit about the actual story

>>713939242 (OP)
Demon's Souls on PS3. Put in about 500hrs beacuse it was a console game with phantom parties and seemed fun to memorize the shitty NPC patterns, but it was among the first games that made me realize Japanese devs are just really, really trash and always behind the times in tech and philosophy.
I literally played Ocarina of Time on an emulator around that time and realized fighting the skull enemies and wolves in the forst dungeon was more in-depth than what DS had to offer. A decade and regression or stagnation, same 20-30 fps hiccups and static world.

Played 2 hours of DS and refunded it when it was the same shit just reskinned from DS'.

This holds true even to this day with modern games from Japan, even Death Stranding 2 has nothing new to offer just copied photo scanning shit from the swedes and textures bought off the market place to fill in the visuals, walking queing up menus in something like a power point presentation overlay. Archaic.

>>713944080
There are enough entirely different games to play instead of an add-on to garbage that definitely will not fix the base product as you claim

>>713942434
It's even worse than slop it's gookified

>>713945224
so do you just not play any games now?

>>713939242 (OP)
"Slop" as a gaming term didn't even exist until Elden Ring.
So, it was never slop.

>>713945556
Things can still exist before a term is coined for them, moron

Reminder that in today's industry even mediocre slop is passable as good games. Decades of shit getting hyped by games journos has broken everyone.

>>713939242 (OP)
in 2014 where every single person agreed dark souls was for faggy losers because le hard gameplay

>>713939242 (OP)
rollslop gitgutslop 2deep4youslop

>>713945668
No. It's just retroactive nonsense for retards.

they are not all "slop" by any means. DeS, DS1, DS3 (not as much) and Sekiro are all really great games. Haven't played Bloodborne, and find DS2 and Elden Ring to be quite uninspired, if not outright shit (dont reply if you are a raving DS2 fag). Fromsoft have definitely lost their creative touch and aren't the daring innovators with their finger on the pulse of culture like they used to, but they have produced great games throughout most of the 2010s and managed to scratch itch that felt like a return to old-school, classic ARPG gameplay like you'd see from older games at a time when gaming was really fucking shit during the sixth gen. I've had my fun with their games, but now I'm letting them go and thats fine and I can appreciate that.

>>713939242 (OP)
Hating popular things is not a personality.

>>713945716
I think DS2 everybody agreed fromsoft was a joke company. They didn't even bother moving the hitbox out of the strike zone for enemy attacks when you rolled

>>713942434
i find this game too aesthetically displeasing to give it a try. the setting, the art style, the character designs, music, etc. is just not for me.

>>713939242 (OP)
Name better games, ill wait

>>713939242 (OP)
When their formula was replicated by every game developer afterwards. From indie to triple A. And it's to such a level that Miyazaki's works seem indistinguishable from what he influenced. It's hard to differentiate the quality between them sometimes. I'll be honest in saying that i always knew the hitboxes (or lack of to be more precise) were always shit. The I-frames in combat was always bad, inaccurate and janky and it's probably an engine wide issue, even on different engine iterations. Yet Souls players would insist that YOU were bad for pointing out how it's terrible.

>>713946116
runescape

>>713942810
UE4 is a great engine
5 is the shit one

>>713941982
>Varierity
Same big open grassy field but now the sky is slightly more red wow and tbe soldiers wear red... wow

After I played Sekiro and I realized rolling is boring as shit.

>>713946086
it's okay to not be confident enough with your own sexuality anon, we were all there once

>>713946149
>Miyazaki's works seem indistinguishable from what he influenced
That couldn't be farther from the truth. There's a subtlety to Miyazaki way of designing things that no one replicates.

>>713941982
you WILL fight the ulcerated tree spirit 508 times and you WILL like it

>>713939350
>>713939432
You have to go back.
>>>/vg/

It wasn't until Elden Ring that I thought any of the games were slop. DS2 might suck cock, but it isn't slop. ER was roll slop. That said, once I got a good shield, the game became fun again and stopped feeling like roll slop.

You can post this a thousand times and I will still keep enjoying it.

AC/DC is still a great band. No, I don't give two shits if their music all sounds alike. It's part of the reason they've been so consistent.

>>713946351
Nta. Tree spirits are easy as shit. Maybe you're just bad at videogames.

>>713946417
Maybe you're just a drooling retard that missed the point. Must be why you love elden slop.

>>713946414
ER is every sozls game ever but in opb workd reused assets slop.
The only reason why people said its good is because they liked shitting on ubisoft cause haha another open world titel isnt greedy.

>>713939242 (OP)
When it surpassed your fave company

>>713946417
They can be both easy and unfun at the same time

>>713946417
Idk what youre talking about.
I first tried it 508 times

>>713939242 (OP)
Never, because it isn't. FromSoft is in the rapidly dwindling class of AAA studios still making games that are actually worth the premium price.

>>713946417
That has nothing to do with the claim made, dipshit

ER showed how the souls gameplay isnt wellade for open world.
Getting sniped from behind out jumpscared out of camera was never a problem for me till that game.

>>713946414
What is disliked most about DS2?

>>713946571
Bro its the same shit as demom souks.
They are like barely any difference between DS and DS3.
The games are the same.
Just because they arent ubisoft and greedy doesnt mean it isnt slop.

>>713946351
Fighting big, crazy, tough as nails boss monsters is like the heart and soul of the Soulsborne experience. If you don't like that then just play something else.

>>713946495
>>713946720
Turn on your fucking autocorrect phone-kun

>>713946785
It's people like you that got the series turned into slop

>>713939242 (OP)
When I got into Dark Souls, then I went back and watched Demon's Souls gameplay and saw that a lot of assets were recycled.

>>713946478
>>713946562
>>713946647
So which one of you retards was the one I actually replied to with my obvious bait.

>>713946197
5 is great too
if you turn off all the 5 features and use just 4 lmao

>>713946692
For me, it's game feel. Like, the actual feel of moving your character feels off. In DeS all the way to ER, the player character feels exactly the same. It's the one thing Lies of P copied perfectly as well, yet DS2 doesn't have it. DS2 just feels wrong, and playing it repulses me.

>>713939242 (OP)
dark souls 3 was disappointing but elden ring killed my enthusiasm for fromsoft games
ds2, sekiro and ac6 were incredible, still peak experiences

When Dark Souls came out did /v/ recognize it as a fun kusoge? A janky game that still was a lot of fun to try to complete?

But then something got lost along the way and people started praising the game as if it wasn't jank all along?

>>713941982
There's way more unique bosses in Wukong than in Elden Ring. 38 I think in ER to 75 in Wukong

>>713946720
Slop implies that it's not good. I enjoy them because the foundation is good. They created a winning formula and continue to iterate on it. If you don't like it that's fine, but calling it slop is undeserved imo.

>>713939242 (OP)
DS3.

>>713939242 (OP)
Dark Souls 1 is my favorite game of all time and Bloodborne is not far behind it. Dark Souls 2 also at least featured improved combat mechanics, cloth physics and some fun level design even if it is a pretty shitty sequel all things considered. Also Armored Core 6 is another game that unironically is now in my top games of all time list.

Don't know what you are talking about here. FROMSOFTWARE is legitimately the best company in gaming today.

>>713946980
How many abilities and spells anon.

>>713947010
You know who also made a winning formula?
Ubisoft from AC.
Uts the same shut but without microtransacrions.

>>713946785
The heart and soul was establishing a strong atmosphere in their setting, something they can't manage for shit anymore

>>713939242 (OP)
The very first time I saw a webm of rollslop. They were just rolling through attacks without caring about position. Invincibility frames is a slop mechanic and will always make the game a slop game. Gameplay is just shallow knowledge checks with no nuance in them.

>>713947063
>Best company
Thats nintendo.
At least they know how to innovate insead of making the same game multiple times

>>713946417
who said anything about difficulty? its just not interesting or fun to fight the same annoying spastic enemy copy-pasted 50 trillion times all over the map. it would be like if you placed a black knight at every single bonfire in dark souls 1. would completely over-saturate the game.

>>713946971
ds1 was a genuinely amazing dungeon crawler game, full of exploration moments and high tension combat
then fromsoft decided that what distinguished the game was the constant high tension combat and made ds3/eldenring nothing but scenic setpieces and hyperfast combat full of irritating feints
I played through and beat elden ring twice and honestly can't remember half the dungeons I went through. the classic-style dungeons (stormveil and raya lucaria in particular) were good, everything else was slapped together and felt like pre-digested WAOW ONIONS THEY RESPAWN THAT'S SUCH COMMENTARY ON WAR moments

>>713939242 (OP)
luv me sum fromslop ngl desu
actually playing elden rang right now. lost count how many new characters I have made and went there the game.

>>713946818
phone chan......

Clunky character movement, juke juke smash juke juke smash combat, extremely dull lifeless color pallet worlds, uninteresting "lore", I can go on and on.

I still can't fathom why From Software is so fucking popular.

>>713946785
is it? if i had to fight seath the scaleless 13 times in dark souls 1 i would get quite sick of it personally.

>>713947065
102 maybe? I'd have to go through all the transformations in depth to find out and I'm a bit too lazy to do so at the moment

>>713946818
Autororrect is cancer. It's practically impossible to webedit a PR on github with autocirrect on.

>>713942810
Don't forget parryslop too

>>713946932
All me

>>713939242 (OP)
Cope harder faggot

>>713946692
depends on which game you wanted more from.
if you started with ds1, youd probably complain about the lack of interconnected levels. if you started with 3, youd complain about the easy bosses

>>713939242 (OP)
DS3 is slop because it's the first game no one wanted to make. I'm starting to wonder if Elden Ring was some kind of contract mandate too.

>>713947332
thanks for covering, bro. you're alright.

>>713939242 (OP)
Elden Ring's true crime wasn't that it wasn't good. It was that it wasn't good *enough*. It is distinctly palpable when you play through it that it was churned-out by Fromsoft instead of having love and heart poured into it like they did with Dark Souls 1, Dark Souls 2, Bloodborne, and Sekiro.
This is why so many anons are disgruntled about Elden Ring even though they put in dozens of hours on the game and, from any other company, it would've been heralded as a masterpiece.

>>713939550
don't you retards have a general yet for seething over fromsoft?

>>713947240
Its because they arent greedy whuke making triple A games.
Since all of its competitors are greedy cunts people side with the gokd guys to liss off the rest.

>>713947415
Elden Ring was a WAOW! collab with George RR Martin back when he was insanely fucking red-hot (before Game of Thrones flamed out because of terrible writing and GRRM gave up on writing new novels). The Marvelslop of JP

>>713947332
The joke is that I'm responding to my own bait.