Thread 713950205

This series gets relentlessly casualized since 7, how come so few Nintendo fans care about that?

Guess I'm one of the few. I vividly remember how let down I felt by 8.

bumping into walls and stopping as a result is unfun. back to your need for speed games, Gerald.

>>713950464
>not punishment for bad driving
Good racing game sirs

>>713950205 (OP)
Did lightning and getting hit by items always remove your items? If I could change one thing about world it would be that.

>>713950464
>bumping into walls and stopping as a result is unfun
Then get good?
>back to your need for speed games
Or all the Mario Kart games that do it right

>>713950205 (OP)
OP, can you tell the difference between Mario Kart and Forza? What is it?

>>713950205 (OP)
Stop noticing!

>>713950612
>>713950502
you’re killjoy losers. Like I said join your butt buddy Gerald and go play your more realistic racing games

>>713950612
>Then get good?
tendies are the equivalent of black people, that's why we call them tendies. you can't tell a black person to simply not be dumb and lazy

>>713950205 (OP)
Most racing games don't.

I don't have MKW, but the wall was angled so poorly it was basically running into a full wall when the others were a smooth curve.

i want walls to fuck people up because i want to be the guy that bumps them in to walls.

>>713950205 (OP)
Holy, never noticed this. Also inb4
> hurr it was always casual
then why make it even more casual to the point no nonretard can enjoy it?

>>713950738
99% of good racing games do what are you talking about

>>713950809
believe it or not it’s more enjoyable this way and high iq people will appreciate the fun factor

>>713950976
You are mentally ill.

>>713950205 (OP)
dunno what you're talking about, world has a higher skill ceiling than any previous mario kart. over time wall bumping has evolved from a stupid punishment to a way to strategically alter your line. off-road still exists to punish people for drifting wrong.

>>713950698
The killjoy is stripping away sense of reward from playing well

But explaining this to people who grew up with Zelda games where you come out of boss room with more health than when walking in is probably casting pearls before swine

>>713950976
"High IQ people" would prefer a system that punishes a lack of map knowledge.

>>713951206
post a high skill ceiling world webm that's actually car racing and not tony hawk grinding and jumping around like in a platformer

>>713951283
>post a mario kart world webm that isn't mario kart world

>>713951283
>moving the gole posts

>>713951206
Anon you drive in a straight line most of the time and the best way to win is playing bad on purpose so you get good items.

>>713951283
>NOOOOO ONLY POST HIGH SKILL SHIT THAT COUNTS FOR ME SO I WIN THE ARGUMENT!

>>713951365
>>713951369
>>713951416
>samefag seethe instead of just posting the webm
you really have none? lmao wtf

>>713951210
the point is to make it feel good all the time. it feels good to not get stopped by a wall so you just wanna keep playing.
>>713951224
as a high iq person the last thing I want when I’m having fun in Mario Kart is punishment that makes me not want to play the game. And I’m not taking about getting blue shelled. I’m talking about the feel. Getting momentum stopped is bears

>>713950205 (OP)
It's quite strange to remove those mechanics. Even though Nintendo designs games for kids, are they really making them stupid now? I thought their design choices were clever teaching kids about punishment and reward, and the dangers of hazards, like “you're not supposed to hit walls while driving.” But now it seems like Nintendo wants kids to hit walls when driving

>>713950205 (OP)
It doesn't even make sense for Nintendo to still casualize their games so much. People LOVE hardcore games now, Elden Ring isone of the most popular and normie friendly games ever.

This is legit pathetic one retard spamming about Mario Kart 24/7

>>713951403
>posts a side mode
bit cringe

>>713951523
i can never tell is actually retarded tendie or sony fanboy trolling and trying to make tendies look bad

>>713950881
You can just say you're not very experienced with the genre anon. It's okay to be ignorant if you're willing to learn.
Anyway, most racers have very, very minimal slowdown when up against a wall so wallriding became a viable "strategy" especially in games with some kind of boost that can offset the minimal slowdown like burnout or nfs.

If I remember right a nascar racer even did it in real life because he did it in racers as a kid and the crazy bastard pulled it off. I'll try and find a link before I post.
https://youtu.be/sOY9p5gFa5Q?si=6MIkDwRp9QzZEM92

Anyway, point is that most games allow for wall riding to this day even being a huge problem in GT7.

>>713951653
instead of this worthless text wall you could have owned me by simply listing a few great racing games that don't punish driving into walls. now you just look like a moronic fanboy

200cc was only fun I've ever really had in mario kart, because it actually forced you to brake.

>>713950205 (OP)
It's probably because they added grinding. They probably thought mislabeling what is a rail and what isn't would be frustrating to be punished for

>>713950379
I played it for exactly 30 minutes. Kept getting annoying that every track stopped you from cutting corners at all and essentially removed all classic challenge from the game. You couldn't even shroom over some grass anymore, it was atrocious.

I'm genuinely shocked that anyone likes MK8 but the fact that many consider it the peak of the series is just insane. I just played DD last year again on emulator. It felt great, 10x better than MK8.

>>713951523
>it feels good to not get stopped by a wall so you just wanna keep playing.
No it feels good to overcome walls and learn shit and get better and consistently recall what you learned, play stylish and flawlessly, etc. Ideally the average game is balanced so you don't get filtered but you ALMOST get filtered. That's game design 1:1

>>713951621
so sorry you’re low iq, gerald

>>713951523
>as a high iq person the last thing I want when I’m having fun in Mario Kart is punishment that makes me not want to play the game.

Any actual "high iq person" loves to learn and loves a challenge. "Having fun" without commitment is for retarded casuals and braindead npcs.

>>713951818
>old good new bad!
ok grandpa time for bed

>>713951757
>text wall
Anon, that's like 5 sentences and are you going to really say that the burnout, nfs and GT series are bad because they prove you wrong?
That's just sad.

>>713950205 (OP)
there has to be a word for faggot snoys who waste all of their time shitting on a good game instead of playing it

>>713950205 (OP)
Damn Peach has a nice ass

>>713951615
>Side mode
is fucking Grand Prix

>>713951757
A fanboy of Burnout, Need for Speed or Gran Turismo? Because he mentioned all of them.
Also a fucking nascar racer doing it in real lifeq because he used to do it all the time in racing games is more proof than any game.

>>713952010
no it isn't

>>713951849
we’re talking Mario kart not the average game. the point is fun.
>>713951879
there is a commitment to getting first place. That’s all one needs to worry about in Mar+io kart. so slide slide around and have fun even the items don’t hurt so bad because you just tumble forward and I never feel so bad it because I can’t get too angry and that’s the whole point. To have fun and not get angry. Did you know Nintendo’s motto is to put a smile on people’s faces? I’m smiling

>>713951920
all of those punish driving into walls, burnout less than the others because it's a traffic racer about avoiding traffic and ramming other cars but even in burnout hitting a wall hard enough can be a death sentence and literally total your car
>>713952092
dunno why you reply twice, not reading

>>713950205 (OP)
>funky rides a motorcycle into the wall
>the webm desaturates to hell
always wear a helmet.

>highest skill ceiling
>best tracks
>soulful graphics
Kneel to the greatest Mario Kart.

>>713952135
>we’re talking Mario kart not the average game. the point is fun.
And everyone already had fun with Mario Kart before these unnecessary changes. In fact Mario Kart World is the most controversial MK yet with the lowest user score and hardcore fans making hundreds of videos why the game is bad lol

>>713950205 (OP)
>this series got relentlessly casualized since 7
>mario kart
Its literally the most casual franchise in vidya since forever bro

>>713952010
GP is a side mode in World. Play the BR mode, scrub.

>>713950205 (OP)
You'd think this is indefensible but I bet I know what I'll be reading when I scroll through the thread.

>>713952279
if you watch yourube slop that’s a huge indication of low iq. I recommend deleting your google account.
people were having fun but now it’s more fun. sure the highways are long winded but what matters is there is no real punishment, nothing that makes you really mad. Because at the end of the day the squirrels gotta eat.

>>713952474
>low iq
Anon you are the one dying on the "challenge and being punished for playing bad is bad" hill, you barely qualify as human

>>713951757
You can't be owned, because the dude you're arguing with is a moron whose knowledge of racing games is limited to that same games that shilled to death
>>713951653
That car literally wrecked while doing a wall ride, and he also said it was a gamble that only worked that one time

>>713952279
>78%
oh no no no no

>>713952597
I never intended that. Some games should be hard. I only intended my philosophical reasoning or mario kart only. mario kart should leave a smile on your face.

>>713952842
No one ever asked for these changes. Stop coping

>>713951808
>It's probably because they added grinding.
>webm literally shows MK8
No they did that to CASUALIZE THE GAME AND APPEAL TO
1. toddlers (actual toddlers)
2. retarded people
3. women

8 also removed Lakitu boosts, made Lakitu pick you up way faster, reduced other hit reactions like getting hit by NPC cars, removed wheelies, standing turbos, jump drifts, made item boxes respawn instantly so you can no longer tactically steal them, added a bunch of invisible walls to prevent shortcuts, removed items that require skill like the cloud or the tanuki tail, generally made drifting even easier and tracks wider (all those lazy phone tracks), etc.

Don't start me on what they did to Pikmin 4.

>>713950205 (OP)
>press button to go faster
>inward drift
>wheel
>battle mode
>press buttons to accelerate fast
Wii was the casualization

>>713952161
>hitting a wall hard enough can be a death sentence and literally total your car
Anon, are you under the assumption that we're talking about walls that are perpendicular to the car? You know we aren't, right?
You can definitely do that in games like Burnout especially if it's a track with the tangible orange walls like you can see here.

You haven't played very many racing games, have you.

>>713952919
you should play other games.

>>713952987
I bet female players could beat you, I bet.

>>713953062
I played every game there is, what's your point?

>>713950698
So you're saying Mario Kart is realistic? You realize it's a comparison of Mario Kart to Mario Kart you simplistic twat waffle

>>713952161
>>713952646
Zoom zoom

>>713953039
>still yapping about the traffic dodge game
wanna compare what happens when you ram traffic in burnout and what happens when you ram traffic in mario kart world?

>>713950205 (OP)
Tendies no longer really want quality, they just want Nintendo to be successful. Wii U traumatized them

>>713952987
based

>>713953357
Wii U was great thou, I am sorry you are poor.

>>713953357
also forgot to add I really love nekopara

>>713951283
The tony hawk shit is so much harder and cooler than any previous Mario kart. I think ctr is more fun still though

>>713951210
Collecting the heart container was always optional.

>>713953445
The point is it didn't sell well and Nintendo was a laughing stock. It was also a shitty console but that's beside the poind

>>713953537
if you want a world filled with nothing

>>713953260
Yes anon because traffic checks are completely related to wall grinding.
What next are you going to call Forza Horizon a traffic dodge game?

It's probably for the best that Nintendo doesn't want to make a new F-Zero. Casual F-Zero would be heartbreaking

>>713953701
Fast Fusion / Fast Racing has that niche covered. we don’t need captain faggot anymore.

>>713953750
lol

>>713950205 (OP)
nigga, it's a children's game

>>713950881
>99% of good racing games do
>posts a game that doesn't
????

>>713953239
I play your dad games like rFactor, RBR, Ride, and MotoGP URT, wall riding doesn’t even help in those. What’s your excuse, unc?

>>713953786
>nintendo fans now unironically use "it's a game for retards and children" as an argument

>>713953786
>children have 500 dollars to spend

>>713950205 (OP)
>the most casual racing game is casual
Water is wet, what the fuck did you expect?

>>713953786
>>713951526

>>713953750
>we don’t need captain faggot anymore.
That's funny considering he is the only masculine Nintendo character left

>>713953837
>earliest game is 2002
Jesus you really are a fucking zoomer.

>>713953639
>Yes anon because traffic checks are completely related to wall grinding.
related by both being casualized in mk world yes. and more related than burnout and a kart racer. concession accepted anyway
>>713953809
you literally have to reset if you hit the wall in the harder missions

>>713950205 (OP)

What if Nintendo had made Mario 64 online only and refused to have an end of life plan? "Tough luck, you'd better buy a new Switch and purchase Mario Galaxy 5"!

>UFC and boxing is on right now
>tendies talking about their baby games
>not even playing them but talking about them
kek

>>713952251
too bad it's ugly as shit

>>713954231
>heh, they’re not talking about my man fight slop. dumb little sissy boys don’t know what’s good these days.

>>713954131
>if you hit the wall in the harder missions
Nigger you're grinding against it on a curve, not ramming directly into it AND you're talking about missions not general play.

>>713953701
dunno what you mean, f-zero 99 didn't skimp on difficulty at all

Unironically defending the casualization of games is the most tragic arc for tendies yet.

>>713954231
>UFC and boxing
And? That shit is boring.

>>713954436
>Nigger you're grinding against it on a curve
yes in mk world because it's a game for retards

>>713954506
Kek your baby game is boring, Topuria just starched Oliveira

then go play your stupid dark souls games or whtever the fuck if you are too le hardcore for nintendo games? noone forces you

>>713954861
Who and who and why would he starch his clothes?

>>713950205 (OP)
Still looks like a minor slowdown, in a game where you're striving for hundredths of a second that's enough penalty.

>>713950464
>bumping into walls and stopping as a result is unfun.
Having to drive carefully is fun and the entire point. Kys

>>713956038
>in a game where you're striving for hundredths of a second that's enough penalty.
karts are usually seconds apart, so no. if hundredths would be a big game changer items would break the game and driving like shit should be at least as punishing as getting hit by an item

>>713950205 (OP)
Poor concussed Funky

>>713951818
MK8 was tainted by fire hopping. MK8D was perfect. A lot of sweats hate that you can't do absurd skips but that's what makes the game great. No stupid skips makes the game more accessible because it means you don't need to study and memorize all the time trials for 90+ tracks to be competitive.

MKW unfortunately suffers from this, and the intermission tracks are the only thing keeping the game accessible to casuals. The wall riding and rail riding mechanics were a mistake. They alienate new players.

>>713950205 (OP)
Did that one guy irl do really good when he used wall riding strats?

Mario Kart is for children. They reduced the punishment for failure so children can enjoy it.
If you want a technical skill-based racer there's dozens of others, but don't play smash bros and complain about tripping.

>>713956387
>MK8D was perfect
It was already casualized with tons of equalizers to make it easier for noobs to win and for the noob pack to swallow you up. Far from perfect. Ironicaly 7 is the most perfect MK but doesn't really get a lot of recognition because it's a low budget handheld game

>>713956575
I agree, I like 7 the most but I'm also sweaty. Im just looking at the design decisions from nintendos perspective. They only care about the casual audience.

>>713950205 (OP)
it's worse than just a casualization, it's also homogenizing weight classes. slower recovery was an intentional disadvantage of heavier faster karts

>>713953750
There's also Aero GPX or Extreme Formula if you look past the former's character designs.
We're seriously hitting the point where indies are basically just giving people what they want for some franchises and IPs that the holders are either abandoning or royally fucked up. Want Wipeout? Pick up BallisticNG, its got plenty of content + mods that basically let you turn it into Wipeout altogether. Want Sonic? Tons of fangames, and Spark the Electric Jester 1&3 are damn good for what they bring to the table. etc etc.

It's only a matter of time til someone decides to make their own Mario Kart in an indie way rather than the Disney or Nickelodean knockoffs, that actually plays really good.

>>713957096
>There's also Aero GPX
you should unironically kill yourself for even mentioning this shameless clone made by trannies. it's insane how accepting zoomers are of the most derivative blatant china tier clones

>>713950738
Racing games aren't kart racers and even in normal racing games bumping into shit is usually the main source of error.

>>713950205 (OP)
>play casual game
>it's easy

>>713957597
What point are you trying to make?

>>713952646
Every car in NASCAR is basically torn down and rebuilt after each race

>>713957765
motormouth defense because he has no argument. either a nintendo fanboy who wants to downplay that world got casualised or a snoy who just wanted to say something negative about a nintendo game. it's funny that the two become increasingly harder to tell apart because nintendo fanboys abandoned all their standards and principles

mario kart is a party game for children.
wii being a jank circlejerk for speedrunner autists doesnt change that.

>>713957995
8 is the one that introduced these casualizations, mk wasn't like this for the last 30 years

>>713958086
oh fuck off, double dash was wacky item spam jamboree

>>713958086
lmao okay retard.

casual crybabies ruined gaming forever
>WAAAAAAAAAH WHY DOESNT THE GAME PLAY ITSELF FOR ME THIS ISNT FUN WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH WHY AM I BEING PUNISHED FOR PLAYING POORLY? WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Nintendo saved the online with the new Random option change. Even at 8000 all these tryhards were doing random only and the courses just aren't built for it. It's way more fun online now.

>>713958169
>oh fuck off
please just make your point and don't talk like a homosexual diva, i don't want sex with you. also don't reply to me twice in a row just because you are mad
>double dash was wacky item spam jamboree
it punished you for colliding with things. it also literally still had intentionally finnicky "shopping cart" controls that even made basic shortcuts like on mushroom bridge tricky

>>713958653
>discussion about mario kart
>starts imagining people as gay, talking about gay sex, and talking about how definitely not gay he is, unprompted

>>713958810
>talks like a homosexual and acts like a homosexual when confronted about it
awaiting your second reply

>>713950205 (OP)
hugging walls in kart racers is fun

>>713958308
It's kinda worse than that desu, tendies just defend whatever Nintendo does. No one EVER

EVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

asked for Mario Kart to be made even more casual, tendies just defend it now that Nintendo did it. If Nintendo made the most hardcore game ever most tendies would probably love it

>>713958421
>the courses just aren't built for [being 3-lap races]

>>713951818
For me it was the speedy fall recovery and them keeping the coin system.

>>713950205 (OP)
It was made for casuals please understand.

>>713958421
>It's way more fun online now.
Before or after your lobotomy? Literally nothing you do matters on intermission tracks, it's just one clump of shitters slowly moving to where the real race begins

>>713958959
Criticizing or even pointing out casualization of Mario Kart now seems to end up with people going either 'what a dumb tendie thinking this baby game requires any skill' or 'you are gay for even liking Mario Kart, deal with this slop'. I don't know who they are or why they are like this.

>>713959043
>If Nintendo made the most hardcore game ever most tendies would probably love it
not sure about that desu
>f zero
>metroid
>pikmin 2
>zelda 2
>donkey kong country
all floppped time and time again or got a lot of hate. donkey kong is the one exception but even that never got crazy numbers and only gets made because it's low budget 2d and when a donkey kong game isn't low budget (bananza) it's casual slop and tendies praise it to the skies

i don't even think the average nintendo fan touched monster hunter despite it being nintendo exclusive for almost 10 years

>>713958421
It's really the opposite. This entire game is still built like a normal Mario Kart game, the tracks are awkwardly stapled onto an empty and pointless open world, and whether you think the highways have good track design or not, they barely have anything interesting going on if ever past the race itself.
This shit has absolutely no nuance to the open world, it's so tacked on despite being so fundamental. They basically missed the entire actual point anyone would want an open world for racing BECAUSE they designed normal 3-lap course tracks all over the place that everything has to connect to physically. If they really wanted to make an open world racer, they should've looked at Burnout Paradise, because instead you have a game that missed the mark but thinks it has a point to make by forcing everyone to play its empty open design.

>>713950205 (OP)
nintendo fell into the player retention micro-optimization trap a lot of MMO devs do.
They start removing all the small "friction points" so retention numbers stay high on market tests.

there's literally 8 other good mario karts, there is no opportunity cost in a new one being shit, and opporunity cost is for women and cocksucking brokers anyways. if you feel any sort of chagrin at all about the new mario kart it's because you are a retard who wanted a new mario kart to begin with. stupid, dumb. retarded even.

>>713952279
>7.8
Well it could be worse, at least it's not 8.8

Really don't get why Nintendo fans get so worked up when the company panders to their core target audience, children and casuals.

>>713959842
>f zero hated
>any of the actually hardcore metroid titles being hated as opposed to the linear or easier or more handholdy ones
>pikmin 2 being more hardcore than pikmin 1
>implying zelda 2 being hardcore is the reason people don't like it and not because it's completely unlike all the others while being tedious as shit
>DKC, an all time favorite of millenial casuals being hardcore
man, you come right out of a comic book.

>>713950205 (OP)
It's a party game.

>>713960714
>>f zero hated
are you illiterate? i said flopped or hated. not reading the rest since it's written by an illiterate

>>713960771
No it's a kart racer and literally has a built in competitive mode and tournaments. There is no justification for making it this idiot proof except that they really want every idiot to buy and enjoy it but thereby they make more hardcore players enjoy it less who should criticize it

>>713960904
>f zero
>flopped
it was literally one of the tech demos to push how cool the console was, it did gangbusters. you're dumb as fuck.

>>713960904
>>713961165
also no actually rereading your bullshit, you implied they were flopping BECAUSE they were hardcore, particularly given the context you were replying to. you're the illiterate you pole smoking bitch.

>>713961165
>it did gangbusters
every main f zero game sold half as much as its predecessor and gx sold a pathetic 0.5 m. there is a reason nintendo stopped making them

>>713961301
seek a theraipst

>>713950464
>bumping into walls and stopping as a result is unfun
then don't do it? that's what a game is anon

>>713950205 (OP)
>relentlessly casualized since 7
Cute, look at you pretending 64 didn't make drifting easier along with a surefire way to avoid slipping on bananas.

>>713950205 (OP)
Mario Kart World only punishes you for actually being good. The series has gotten just way too casual.

Why don't you fags play Trackmania if you want serious racing?

>>713962603
personally i like mario kart, just wish nitnendo wouldn't make retarded changes to attract more brown 60 iq people

>>713950205 (OP)
Modern gaming is garbage and the people who pay for this trash deserve to be swindled

>>713962460
>pretending 64 didn't make drifting easier
Every game makes something easier, usually that's not for the sake of making things less challenging but to smooth out gameplay/controls. SNES just feels like a struggle

>>713950205 (OP)
Thank fuck. You already take a speed penalty when you bump into walls. Anyone who thinks the old version is good should never be allowed to design a game, ever.

>>713951210
>where you come out of boss room with more health than when walking in
>this is his big sticking point
Holy shit this has to be bait. Is rewarding players for completing a challenge bad game design in your eyes?

>>713964178
>zelda bosses
>challenge
you didn't quite understand the point he was making

>>713952251
Why is it so overpraised? I get it was awesome back then and missions are still the best side content but every MK that came out after is better.

>>713964330
>he got hung up on "challenge"
You're retarded. Stop responding to me you stupid faggot. Never ever design a video game or provide your input on video games ever again.

>>713964576
>sense of reward from playing well
>playing well
>pic of zelda boss a baby can beat without playing well
>no sense of reward
he's obviously just saying zelda bosses are too easy and therefore unfun, you please never design anything if you didn't get that or disagree

>>713963845
>SNES just feels like a struggle
I'd honestly argue that SMK has a good diffculty curve with acclimating to the controls, since they're loose enough to really force you to pay attention to how, when, and where you approach turns. And when you start blitzing through the track after learning it, it feels really good, and you enter this flow state. It's something I felt hasn't been really matched by the 3D games outside of Double Dash.
It's really only the singleplayer GP that's the annoying part, as character choices literally rig the difficulty (Koopa players have to deal with a near constantly invincible Luigi rival, for one).
Super Circuit in comparison always felt like a more polished SMK, even going as far as to include the SNES tracks as unlocks. Maybe that's why I like it so much.

>>713963301
Modern gaming isn't technically trash, it's just way too derivative because everything was already done and all the good games today clearly rip off older games and most of them are so dishonest they won't even admit it, let alone mention it in the product description. So the question whether you can fully enjoy new games kinda boils down to
>am I an ignorant retard who never played all the old classics and/or someone who enjoys playing the same game over and over but with a different flavor like it's pizza?
If the answer is yes you'll love modern gaming.

>>713952646
>That car literally wrecked while doing a wall ride, and he also said it was a gamble that only worked that one time
It was found out to be a viable strategy, it's just that no one wanted it to become meta because of crazy g-forces during it, so everyone agreed to ban it afterwards.

>>713964538
Old good.

>>713950205 (OP)
this is also how it was in double dash thoughbeit

>>713950881
Pic not related, you still keep a constant speed after bumping a wall, only when you scrap for too long do you slow down.

>>713950205 (OP)
I miss being able to dodge red shells.

>>713950205 (OP)
>noooo why is this kids game for..... kids??!?!?!?

>>713965113
What's with /v/'s Double Dash obsession? It's seen as the shittiest MK for a reason. You can point out something negative about nu MK without saying DD was perfect.

>>713954231
>>>>>

LOL Look at you trying to grandstand on a fucking video games board. Shut up you clown.

>>713950205 (OP)
>Noooooooooo, a casual game meant for the whole family isn't dark souls!!!!!!!!!! I'm so mad!!!!!!!!!

>>713957995
>>713965301
>>713965453
??? No one says MK World isn't a shitty kiddy party game. The question is why

>>713965546
we know why -> to make more money. the significance is for us to call it out and not give them any money for this crap

>>713964538
From my impression it's because it's the first online MK which also happened to have high skill expression, so it built a strong community. But good riddance of that skill expression that relies o violating the digipad of your DS.

>>713965301
Games were 10x more "for kids" 20 years ago

>>713950205 (OP)
>whining about a casual game series being casual
You're barkin' up the wrong tree, tryhard.

>>713951210
So... any Zelda that wasn't 1 or 2.

>>713950205 (OP)
What really makes me uncomfortable in MKW are the rails. It's just outright suboptimal do not use them, no downsides and it also steers for you.
It's simply a bad call with no tradeoffs to not use them.

>>713965952
Why does everyone take that sentence so literally? No one is talking about heart containers, the point is that Zelda bosses are a joke.

>>713952103
it is you fucking retard
they destroyed the best MK to date and I still don't know why

>>713965887
even a casual series can be too casual

retard

>>713965113
maybe because of the slippery ship controls? even mk64 knocks you out of the drift

>>713966143
So... any Zelda that wasn't 2.

>>713966446
That was the point he was making, yes.

>>713954484
is this webm slowed down? I remember it beeing faster than that.

>>713965154
>you still keep a constant speed after bumping a wall
You lose like half your speed for a moment.
>>713965154
>only when you scrap for too long do you slow down.
Which can easily happen when fucking up a drift.

And guess what 7 completely casualized those things and no one liked it.

>>713966765
>I remember it beeing faster than that.
Same. I suppose he's being sarcastic and F-Zero 99 is casual shit

>>713950738
mk was't supposed to be like most racing games

>>713966194
>World
>best MK to date
This would require at least a few great tracks and no resources wasted on a flashy pointless open world and no meta consisting of finding the most broken Tony Hawk grinding routes

>>713967163
And that's ofc presupposing they will add the function to disable intermissions

>>713950379
>>713951818
The series peaked with DS/Wii, 7 was more of the same, 8 was more of the same and it was beyond stale at that point. MK8D was one of the first games I got for switch and I traded it for Splatoon 2 after a day, these games are just fucking boring now. Debating selling pic rel for $70 to some idiot.

>>713967361
>7 was more of the same
it was really the most safe new entry in a big ip ever and lacked content, but it sure was solid. perfect kart behavior, good tracks with a lot of choke points and i liked the mario galaxy elements

>>713953903
Their parents do unless they're poor race-mixing drug addicts.

>>713950379
>Guess I'm one of the few. I vividly remember how let down I felt by 8.
The whole game feels like it's driving for you and dragging you to the finish line
>but muh 200cc
Shitty band-aid for lack of good track design

>>713950205 (OP)
I've played all the tracks/grand prixs/tours and I decided to finally give the open world a spin.... and I'm bored as shit after playing it for only an hour. Nintendo really spent nearly 10 years on this and thought it was fun? I never want to play the open world again. Can you even just do random races in the open world or not? I thought if I drove over the starting line for a track it would at least give me the option but no.

>>713968090
the only thing the open world does is cause all the tracks to look samey

>>713950205 (OP)
If you used Funky Kong + Flamerunner or Daisy + Mach Bike in Mario KArt Wii, you were a garbage racer who was playing on very easy mode.

>>713970934
really doesn't matter that much who you pick in multiplayer. heavies also have shit accel and wheelies make them vulnerable

Wii is definitely challenging to master since the mach bike is best yet because of its inward drifting there is more chance of hitting those walls. It also has a far more punishing rainbow road than world

>>713950205 (OP)
it is a game for children

In DS you needed to not bump into walls for a whole cup to max star a cup.

>>713971668
>It also has a far more punishing rainbow road than world
I think World's RR is less punishing than every MK that isn't 64

>NOOOO
>MEIN BING BING WAHOO GAMES MUST BE REALISTISCH

>>713971782
And you were retarded as a child? Also no it's a family game

>>713972054
it was a different time

>>713950205 (OP)
Because it's Nintendo. They are targeting casual gamers you retarded, worthless dumbass. Go touch grass and stop thinking games have to be hardcore just because you failed in life and you have to substitute video game achivements for real life achivements. God damn. You waste of fucking air.

>manchildren seething because nintendo changed their bing bing wahoo racer
Lmaoing at ur lives

>>713972626
you're replying to a webm that compares two nintendo games

>>713972434
>>713972626
>>713972702
Had a bad day? Wanna talk about it?

>>713971668
Inward drifting isn't a thing in 8 and World? Wat

>>713950205 (OP)
I haven't played World yet but 8 annually has pretty good simulated physics and realistic handling for the karts. What happens in Wii feels completely unnatural compared to what happens in 8.

>>713972837
That anon had probably just never played them.

>>713953750
The Fast games play completely different.

>>713966195
>even a series about just having fun can be too much about just having fun
Yeah, I'm not the one who sounds retarded, anon.

>>713972778
yeah, an idiot posted this thread today

he should be whining about Death Stranding 2's I WIN button instead

>>713972837
They are bad and slower

8snoys

>>713972626
You okay buddy

>>713973001
>cares about some kojimbo movie slop
>samefags and projects in threads he doesn't care about
>thinks he isn't the idiot

>>713956176
>Having to drive carefully is fun and the entire point of Mario Kart

Kek fuck off retard this ain't Forza Motorsport.

Every day it's just a new laughable cope with this game.

>>713973096
it's ok OP we all post shit threads from time to time

>>713973110
>Kek fuck off retard this ain't Forza Motorsport.
True it isn't some casual game for dads

>IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT: the thread
Grim. MKW truly broke /v/

>>713973193
It's really weird how much of a hate boner the internet has for nintendo

>>713973265
Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is a true epidemic.

These people desperately want to play Nintendo games but seethe because they can't.

>>713972864
It's bouncy cartoon characters, what happens in that Wii clip is more realistic by its own logic than what happens in that MK8 clip which isn't realistic by any metric and you should have all street privileges revoked if you think otherwise.

>>713972837
Inward is worse than regular drifting in 8.
World removed that drifting style completely.

>>713973090
Actually I am, I have never felt better. I can actually see why people post stupid shit like this online. I started taking medication for depression and now, I habe contempt for posts like this. They think that being super hardcore in games means something. There is a huge hole they fill with gaming, hardcore strategies, 300+ hours of grinding in a game just because they might feel better about themselves but nobody listens when people say that's unhealthy. So now I basically try to make people kill themselves because I realized how worthless these people are. A waste of space. A useless person, sitting in front of a computer and arguing about how hardcore a game targeted towards kids should be. What a fucking waste of life. Hitler was right. There are subhumans in this world.

AYAH

>>713972054
I loved how DS had a real scoring system and how brutal it was

>>713973479
>World removed that drifting style completely.
Well there goes any shred of hypothetical interest I ever had in that game

>>713973513
this thread is now about the fact that dkc2 is overrated and 1 is better

>>713973485
>There are subhumans in this world.
And they bought a Switch 2.

>>713950205 (OP)
and even with that change the newer games are less casual than Wii because they don't have the ridiculous inside drift bikes.

>>713950205 (OP)
kids game

In ridge racer you can do 360 drifts during turns at top speed while following the track and no one complains about that.

>>713973824
Inside drifting is harder to master and you literally have to hug the wall if you go for optimal play

>>713973875
Then why click the thread you pedophile

>>713974302
I merely answered a question. project more fellow thread participator.

>>713974405
>still here
Kids games don't have to be retarded, all you did was reveal you lurk threads you think have a lot of kids

>>713974473
I merely answered a question. project more fellow thread participator.

>>713974767
>repeats the same debunked take because his brain shorted out
>still here looking for kids

>>713950205 (OP)
Nintendo is running loyalty tests like cult leaders, the only people left are unironic autists and fanatics.

>>713952987
>tanuki tail
i loved this

7's only flaw is the lack of B Dasher.

>>713950205 (OP)
you know its bad when even shortcat shits on it

>>713973654
All 3 are good and the ultimate proof that Nintendo wasn't always baby shit

>>713950205 (OP)
You can't get a world record bumping into walls

>>713980264
>world record
exactly 0.001% care

>>713953750
The only good Shinen game is Art of Balance, I'd kill for a Steam port

>>713980264
But you can easily beat the game and Naruto666 can beat you.

>>713950205 (OP)
Hugging the curves tight is a skill, get gud.

>>713981585
hugging the curve without hitting it is a bigger skill, git actually gud

It's crazy the mental gymnastics people pull to defend this

>>713981667
What, are you ascared of a little wall pussy

>>713950464
No, hitting walls in a fucking racing game of any sort SHOULD result in some sort of stoppage. You shouldn't be rewarded for not bothering to try and have cleaner lines. Any good kart racer still abides by this logic.

>>713967207
They actively went out of their way to ruin the only way to avoid intermissions. I don't think they have any plans for that.

you can drive right into oncoming cars in mk world and it barely matters

>>713952474
r/iamverysmart is that way, buddy.

>>713950205 (OP)
I'm tired of losing to shitters bros, at least in the old games I knew it's some sweaty autists who own me

>>713952474
Dude can't even spell YouTube and he talks about high iq. Can't even look over your own post for spelling errors.

>>713952987
>Don't start me on what they did to Pikmin 4.
added a female nigger captain

>>713952987
>removed wheelies
And that's a fucking good thing.

>>713950205 (OP)
damn, the 6 year olds are gonna riot over this!