Thread 713950797

>OH MY GOD LOOK WHAT YOU JUST DID
>BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T PAY US VOICE ACTORS WHAT WE FUCKING DESERVED...
>...WE ARE NOW STUCK HAVING TO WORK IN THE CABBAGE FIELDS TO EARN OUR PAY FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES

>HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU DO THIS TO US YOU ABSOLUTE PIECE OF SHIT???
>YOU SHOULD HAVE PAID US LIKE WE DEMEANDED! FUCK YOU, HEARTLESS CUNT!

Artists, voice actors, actors, writers, and directors all deserve to starve

>>713950797 (OP)
Farming is a good, fun, productive, profitable(pending), hobby and occupation. Demoralizing farming is such a spoiled city fucker thing to do.

>>713951398
Fuck you, soulless fuck

>>713950797 (OP)
Maam those are strawberries

>>713955782
>maam

>>713950797 (OP)
good
stay there

>>713951398
Hobby artist here. I'm fine with not getting paid for my art. It's a good way to keep the integrity and ego in check :)

>>713951398
Only after blue collar workers, and I mean that unironically. Imagine thinking shelve stockers deserve to eat.

Unironically only the managerial class and above deserve to be alive.

>>713952717
Nah farming sucks and we should get robots to replace people

>>713956205
>managerial class and above deserve to be alive.

>>713956243
Robots will replace all cushy jobs
You VILL toil the fields

>>713956260
You poor fucks deserve what you get.

Same with friendless fucks, your autism is your own fault and you deserve all the derision you get.

>>713951398
well said, soulful anon

>>713950797 (OP)
Anon, as funny as it would be for fieldhand work to pay better than being a voice actor, I'm pretty sure this is just one of those things where some farmers will let you come pick berries at what I believe is a little bit of a discount. I remember doing that a lot with blueberries.

>>713956243
>>713956332
>replace menial jobs with robots
what will most people do, though? your cashiers and manual laborers aren't exactly philosopher kings. low-tier jobs are the most they can aspire to. are YOU going to pay for their living now?

>>713956205
whos gonna stock those shelves after they're all gone then sis?

>>713956583
How do they know you won't just straight up eat them out of the ground instead of just putting them in the basket like you're supposed to?

>>713956243
Nah, farmers are actually protected in most first world countries to the point where they're like families. Its city jobs that are royally fucked because your bosses actually hate your guts. Worst case for farmers is maybe hiring day laborers/immigrants might be cut.

>>713956205
Based

>>713956717
That's really a question technology has been struggling with since the dawn of industrialization.

>>713956753
They watch you. I had a cousin who tried sneaking a strawberry once while we were picking and the farmer shot him. It's just not worth the risk.

>>713956941
>farmer shot him
what kind of fucking third world shit hole do you live in where that happens?

>>713956717
>>713956898
It's really only picky harvesting that's the problem. Technology has already MASSIVELY replaced workers in all forms of agriculture.

>>713956089
post your work

>>713951398
>California Artists, voice actors, actors, writers, and directors all deserve to starve
Fix'd.

>>713950797 (OP)
The REAL issue is these people believe what they do should be treated as a full-time job with nowhere near the required hours. Oddly enough Japanese VA industry doesn't have this problem.

>>713957238
because it's simply a lot more prolific so there's work to go around. remember, japan dubs everything.

>>713953741
Kys nigger

>>713951398
As a fellow moderate, I agree wholeheartedly

>>713956717
>cashiers
do you live in the year 1999?

>>713950797 (OP)
>Contributing to your nation's food economy and feeding millions is bad because......it just is ok

DROP VAs OFF IN THE MIDDLE CROP FIELDS WITH NO WATER
DROPKICK VAs

>>713957238
jesus christ I hope Tuda dies soon
he sounds fucking stupid

>>713951398
Yes, especially if they want to be a celebrity through a few hours work. As a TTRPG fag you cant imagine how horrible it was with Critical Role and having all these theater kids joining games and nerd podcasts expecting it to fast track them to sitting at con tables getting paid to sign photos of themselves.

>can't reveal her identity as the VA of one of the most important character of a huge franchise for years
>because of Disney
VA industry in the west is so wacky

>>713950797 (OP)
Generated voices are superior because you can customize the voice the way you want, instead of just recording troy baker over and over, and using a voice changer.

>>713957525
How is it possible to have taste this shit?

>>713957723
>because of Disney
wut??

>>713956941
Better than my cousin. He ate one and they dragged him into a shack where they put a straw hat on him and nailed it into his scalp with red hot nails. So now he has to be a strawberry farmer forever now.

Talking into a microphone is not a job.

>>713950797 (OP)
just put the strawberries in the bag

>>713957784
Delivery is something you cannot fine tune with AI voices, though. Not to mention an actual VA can deliver their own take that just works where no one expected it to.

Apologize.

>>713951398
are you mad because they do something they actually enjoy for a living while you do some worthless bullshit job or hard labor?

>>713957889
>being a news report is not a job bro
>being a sports commentator is not a job bro
>being a live translator is not a job bro

>>713956089
I'm with you anon. I myself write and I'm perfectly content not getting paid for my "time". I do my thing because I love it and it gives me fulfillment in life.
Add to this that I actually like my job due to how easy it is and how little time it takes. So I'm like an anomaly to both kikes and golems. I don't work long hours so I don't earn crazy money, but my ample free time is based around creativity, not consumption. They hate me!

>>713957918
literally who

>>713957909
I always told VAs I hired to just do their own version of the life first, or sometimes didn't even tell them that first, just let them do it and see if they got the intonation I had in mind right from the way I explained and gave context for what they're about to say. Sometimes it's better than what I had in mind, sometimes it doesn't quite work, so I just tell them after they did their own them how I specifically thought about it in my head, and so I have them do a few takes like that as well and then I just pick whichever seems to fit better in the end.

>>713950797 (OP)
that's some post-gender nu-human biomass right there. that's what they want to turn humanity into, the same way they turned humans into Sunny D in NGE

>>713957918
very misshapen potato

>>713957031
Here, anon.
>>713957959
That' great, anon. I like what I create, not what I can gain from it. I work long hours + long ass commute though, leave at 6:30AM and back at 6:30PM, current not hating it, YET.

>>713956205
>managerial class ... deserve to be alive

>>713950797 (OP)
>looks like a faggot
>has painted nail
every time

>>713957942
They aren't though

>>713950797 (OP)
>tank top
fake and gay.

>>713950797 (OP)
>haha look, I can make the characters say simple sentences with AI
>that's all we really need anyway

>>713956583
>tfw abandoned farm near my childhood home had a massive secluded "garden" field that was full of blueberries and blackberries
>every year I'd sneak over, gorge myself, and walk back with a pail full to jar and snack on
I miss my secret realm. Not going to look on google maps, I'm sure it's been returned to field or cemented over for some rich fucktard's vacation mansion by this point.

>>713959045
lol

>>713959335
>alright, let's just rough out the lines with AI voices since those cunts are striking again
>wait a second, these sound better than the actual voice actors we did testing with
>hmmmmmm...

>Most jobs become useless because robots+AI do it better than humans
>Most humans disappear because they no longer have money to eat and have kids
>Only a small minority of humans are left, those with enough money to build the robots and the AI
>At some point AI realizes that it doesn't need the remaining humans and exterminates them too

>>713950797 (OP)
I prefer British VAs anyway.

>>713957002
It didn't, retard.

>>713956753
They don't give a shit. It's honestly part of the deal. When you did the blueberry picking thing, people would eat their fill of the blueberries as a matter of course.

>>713950797 (OP)
is that hank green?

>>713956753
They rape you if you do
And the sheriff lets this happen
they don't care, there's literally TONS of harvest and you can't possibly eat enough to make a dent in that

>two necklaces
>four different bracelets
I don't know why this annoys me

Kind of glad american artists are struggling right now. I hope this encourages people to innovate and make things that inspire and entertain instead of things divide people and create malice.

>>713950797 (OP)
he lost weight but he's still a fag

>>713960251
he wears razor blades as necklaces btw

>>713950797 (OP)
>make a squintillion dollars a month
>pay voice actors $100
>this is fair, reasonable, valid, and the free market at work
Mmmkay, sure, but I don't want to hear you complain about how you'll never ever own a house, never be able to support a family, never be a viable partner, provider, or mate to a human female okay?

>>713960357
don't be fooled, he lost weight because he has AIDS, not because he worked out.

>>713960251
he also has painted nails

>>713960425
if you PAID HIM WHAT HE'S FUCKING WORTH this wouldn't have happened

>>713956205
Good little goy you are

>>713958481
Looks like a shmup character.

>>713959909
It did, you dumb faggot. The reason mexicans are still used at all is because human sinew is cheap.

>>713960424
>pay voice actors $100 per word
>they still complain that they're not getting paid enough

why do you never cry about programmers not getting paid enough?

>>713960509
>>pay voice actors $100 per word
Do they really get paid that much?

>>713956717
most people in the west already have fake jobs where they sit in offices and pretend to work
or lately just sit at home and not even pretend to work, while getting paid 100k
it's that easy

>>713956717
Cool it with the antisemitism.

>>713960463
lmao based

>>713950797 (OP)
they really had no back up plan or marketable skills? it's either VA or manual labor?

>>713950797 (OP)
Who are these people?

>>713950797 (OP)
>Work three times slower
>Demand three times the pay
>Get benefits
This isn't gonna wooooork!

>>713957723
https://youtu.be/V5rrd12YYnw?t=9
Yeah why would they do that? Haha

So I wanted to make a post about how van gogh was the only real artist as he was poor and had to burn his own paintings to keep warm, but I wanted to word it in the same format of the souls post that basically day "if you did x you didn't beat it" but I don't know how to do that so yeah

>from theater kid to working in the strawberry fields
lol

How do you start as a trust fund faggot and screw up so badly

>>713950797 (OP)
Um, why don't they just learn to code :)

>>713956089
While I never would want to get money for anything I make(music, YT videos), I can still understand that creative crafts and work is something to build your career around. Such as vidya composers and artists. Such as Oddworld art is a thing of beauty.
it is just shame how much /v/ has turned against artists in general. Making anything creative for this board feels like a waste of time.

>>713956089
If I could get paid for art that would be awesome, but its too hard at the moment to break into any kind of industry and I hate social media too much to game the algorithm

>>713957992
The guy who forced asian voice actors to only voice asian voice actors effectively taking jobs away from them. Sam e with that midget from GoT.

>>713960376
Is this the duke voice parody guy? Duke really can't get a break.

>>713960595
the median wage is the us is 65k. in my state it's 45k. i think less than 20% of jobs in the usa take place in an office.

>>713955782
Hard to see through the tears

>>713957132
And what have you created?

>>713961448
yeah, it's him. he has it coming for being an obnoxious faggot who wants children to get castrated like he is.

>>713961486
It will never not be funny to me how the average american makes this much money and yet somehow can't figure out how to not live paycheck to paycheck or worse, go into debt. American wages are ridiculously high compared to the rest of the world, including first world western european countries.

>>713961679
its the american way to finance everything and put ax out credit cards. nigger rich mentality

>>713960592
unions son

>>713961679
Consumerism. You're also conditioned to move out the moment you hit 18 even though you'll be spending half of your paycheck on just rent.

>>713961679
muh iphone
muh concerts
muh subscriptions
muh side hussle

>>713961679
if you try to buy a house here then you are going to be paycheck to paycheck up until about the 80-100k mark. i live in an apartment with my wife and a combined income of 80k and we can save but if you want to materially advance your station then the prices here are rigged to keep you on the hamster wheel with no breathing room. i have to loan my engineer brother money simply because he has 3 kids. he doesnt even have a mortage. there are some people who blow it on frivolous cars and shit but 60k really only guarentees you a 1bed apt and a cheap car if you dont wanna cut it close.

>>713961679
There's a metric fuckton of videos online going over this and there's a simple answer - financial illiteracy and living above your means.

>>713961992
>financial illiteracy
It's STAGGERING how many people don't know what they'll end up paying for that car they signed up for because of ridiculous interest rate. If you have to pay it off for 5+ years get a cheaper car.

>>713956089
I guess it is somewhat liberating that most forms of art became unprofitable because of proompting. Now you get to create what you want for your own sake without following the whims of the customer.

>>713961991
>but 60k really only guarentees you a 1bed apt and a cheap car if you dont wanna cut it close.
that's not true at all
most people are just ridiculously bad with money so no matter how much they make they will still blow all of it

>>713958481
Cute!

>>713950797 (OP)
>reee now we have to work like the rest of you
We won.
>>713951398
based.
Not just because they do deserve it (they do) but also since Art is only good if the artist suffers.

>>713961679
>>713961991
>>713961992
Lifestyle inflation is a bitch. Most people operate on "the more money I earn, the more money I have to spend" rather than making that money grow. Not to mention investments are too abstract for most as they're not going to wait.

>>713961664
what an absolute faggot.

>>713958481
i thought that was miku with leek hairpins from thumbnail

>>713960592
They negotiate for obscene amounts to the point where they feel like fifteen bucks for five minutes is beneath them. The bayonetta chick worked for like sixteen hours total and was already getting fie digits i think. Regardless, its extremely good for a gig but they don't want to accept its a gig job that's feast and famine they want to be actual celebrities

>>713961154
>Making anything creative for this board feels like a waste of time.
the influx of the global south on the internet was a mistake

>>713962251
>Art is only good if the artist suffers.
That might sound cool in your head, but it doesn't translate to the video game industry at all. If there is no monetary incentive for voice actors to be good at their craft, the quality of voice acting will simply drop to a level like it was back in the 80s and 90s. and I know some contrarians will watch some awful DMC or Resident Evil voice acting clips on youtube and be all nostalgic and pretend that was soulful, but if that type of quality actually became the standard again, it would get old really fast. And let's not even talk about real artists, who have to dedicate their life to their craft in order to develop a skill level that is of the quality we are used to in the entertainment industry.

>>713958481
i wish i could color like you, that hair looks good
>>713956089
i don't necessarily want to be paid but i wish i wasn't forced to do shit i hate to get by,
>tfw really talented in engineering and math but HATE it
>tfw untalented at drawing but LOVE it

>>713956089
That's the mentality all artists should have. Work for the sake of creation, not for the reward

>>713956753
You're harvesting FAR more than you can possibly eat in a siingle go, hell they can even afford you to take home a full box of berries assuming you fill 4-5 boxes for them
The real issue for these people is midnight come and niggers and gypsies sneaking into their warehouses and stealing as much as they can fit in a semi

>>713962463
Games with English VA > Games with US Union VA
Your theory is already wrong.
Also the Prgrammers are more important to a game but don't anything like this, so it's better to just drop VA altogether, let AI do all of it and pay programmers more.

>>713951398
>look at me!! I am a 30 year old manchild! I'm so based!!

>>713962463
>If there is no monetary incentive for voice actors to be good at their craft, the quality of voice acting will simply drop to a level like it was back in the 80s and 90s.
but those voice actors were getting paid
and voice acting in america is still shit because they keep getting paid despite being shit

>>713962482
This is also why video games used to be good but aren't anymore. Nobody enjoys their work anymore. It's all about scamming consumers out of as much money as possible.

>>713962540
I'm not talking about this particular gripe you have with these obnoxious twitter union voice actors. These superior english VAs you mention are also only doing this job because they are being compensated well enough to make it worth their time.

>>713956089
based because this is really what art should be about
cringe because your post is just an attempt at growing your ego

>>713962476
learn to draw with math and engineering

>>713962224
>that's not true at all
maybe it's different regionally but my expenses are, out of 60k:
>8k annually in taxes
>1200 a month for rent
>300 a month groceries
>100 a month gas
>200 a month utilities
>500 a month for low tier health plan
>200 a month auto insurance
>300 a month car payment
>250 in company 401k monthly
>250 for clothes, sundries, minor incidentals monthly etc
that leaves me 12k which usually gets eaten up by modest entertainment and emergencies. i needed oral surgery this year that my dental didnt cover, 6k of my twelve gone. car needs two mid level repairs, thats 4k gone.

>>713956089
>:)
Ego's not in check, it seems

>>713962441
It's just idpol stuff and AIslop flooding that bothers me. I'm from 3rd world country myself so I rather not judge others for where they are from.
Anyway, unless it is some form of wojak edit, about left vs right kind of issue, or shitting on someone in low-effort way, oc really doesn't gain much traction or attention on /v/.

>>713962810
wojak shit still being pushed in the big 25 is baffling like old rage comics shit except for trollface didn't last even half as long as the shit these kids think is the funniest shit on the planet

>>713962902
Using wojak to show your emotions is fine. Spamming soijaks and misusing quotes is not. You need to the know the differences.

none of y'all have real jobs anyway

>>713951398
>artists and authors and designers
big names give people big egos.
artists and painters should be called drawers
authors should be called writers or typers
designers should get fired

>>713962973
I think wojak edits/soijaks have run their course. Its repetitive as fuck.

>>713950797 (OP)
I don't know who these people are but they're the gayest looking men I've ever seen. I'm assuming they're both men? Or is one trans?

>>713963025
Same with Chad memes. It's only a matter of time before something replaces it though.

>>713963048
sure. guess which one is which.

For me, it's phonetic babble like in animal crossing, okami etc.

>>713962997
I resent that, anon. CNC machinist is sadly a very real job.

>>713962476
>i wish i could color like you, that hair looks good
your piece looks good too. I like how it gets the emotion through.

>>713963025
Because the amount of underages spamming and misusing it dwarfs the amount of people creating new OCs for it. Wojak posters are harmless. Soijaks spammers are low-effort, no-substance trolls.

>>713951398
art should always be a hobby its something you want to show to other people

People who don't work mundane jobs should and deserve to suffer. You have no right, nor business whatsoever, enjoying what you do for a living.

It's called a "JOB" for a reason. It's SUPPOSED to be misery-inducing, tiring and soul-sucking. If it's not any of the above, then YOU ARE ACTUALLY WORKING.

>>713956089
I don't mind never making miney from my art as long as I never have to make art for someone else's sake.
I'll draw what I want, when I want. If you like it, cool. If you don't, go away, I didn't make it for you.

>>713957525
You need to be hanged from your balls, you tasteless bitch

>>713963004
How the fuck is "painter" a big name? That's literally the same word you use for the minimum wage guy who paints your fence.

>>713963182
>*AREN'T* actually working

>>713963182
based fuck CEOs

>>713963182
Post nose.

>>713963223
I meant digital painters.
they draw on the screen with a pen.
call them drawers.

>>713962997
i build stuff from metal for the government

>>713963297
I call myself..
a scribbler.
An apt name, methinks.

>>713962997
I teach autistic children to read.
I wouldn't recommend it.

>>713963297
Drawing is done with lines. Painting is done with strokes.
A drawer is something you put your underwear in, a person who draws is called a draftsman, you illiterate jeet.

>>713951398
Programmer master race!!!

>>713963314
die

>>713950797 (OP)
Not a speck of dirt on either of their hands
smdh

>>713963439
lmfao, that is a beak

>>713960376
BLOW IT OUT YOUR NEOVAGINA

>>713963563
to be honest I'm not even sure if that's their properties they are sitting/standing on.

Only neets deserve to eat and get paid.
Everyone else is vermin and deserves to starve.

>>713950797 (OP)
But working in the field is pretty good? Its humbling.

>>713963113
Kind of hard to tell? One looks like a FtM but they honestly both look either FtM or MtF. If anything it looks like two dykes or two trans people dating each other.

>>713963443
>a drawer, what they are, sounded too mundane
>they came up with the funky name draftsman
I didnt know they liked being drafted so much

>>713962535
Maybe they should hire guards then.

>>713961991
dont forget property tax
even if you do own the house you still have to shit out sizeable cash each year to pay for it

>>713956089
I agree with you brother, I'm a coder but I feel the same way, I've never monetized anything I've done because I enjoy the knowledge that things I've made have been useful/enjoyable for hundreds of thousands of people
I used to have a large youtube channel as well, decades ago, and my irl friends just couldn't understand why I never monetized, but I really feel like it sucks the soul out when you're getting paid, and it's a slippery slope where you start compromising to make things you have no passion about just to make money.
The years since big money entered the hacking/social media equation have only vindicated my stance on this. Nothing makes me sadder than when a video maker I like announces they're going full-time.

>worked with my voice for 10 years
>most gigs are 6-8 hours nonstop talking
>no script, no nothing, you just roll it
>did it no problem and i'm not even a good talker

this is a piss easy job, and american VAs can't even do it properly. you're all fucking bad lol, stop fucking complaining you pussies

Looks like a trailer for the next children of the corn movie.

>>713963981
thats just paying rent to the government which is mainly just a hustler mafia.

>>713950797 (OP)
Save some for Johmmy Somali

>>713963439
>Someone actually followed through with the post nose demand

>>713963981
that's assuming i took on a mortage, which in my state would cost me my life savings for a downpayment, and up my 1200 dollar a month rent to a 2000 a month mortage payment, then hoping nothing needs repaired on the house. and that's how you become one leaky faucet away from credit card debt hell, which was my original point. people ARE stupid with debt in america, but these anons
>>713962224
>>713961679
are simply out of touch. it is very easy for even a frugal person making a median wage to become paycheck to paycheck.

>>713963439
whitest man left on /v/

why dont american just dont leave their house?
when their parents die they get entire house for free?

>>713952717
I knew a guy back in high school who was the son of a single mother who worked in those strawberry fields that only hire Mexican immigrants that barely speak English so they can't rebel and he was poor as shit and depressed. His mom also had to work in 100 degree heat for 2 dollars an hour. On the other side I know a family who own a farm and the disabled father is able to tend to the animals just fine and they're all really happy.
The moral of the story is that farming is only fun if you own the land you're tending to.

>>713963985
Your non-monetized videos still show ads.
How do you feel about this revelation?

>>713956089
>artist i follow is about to be homeless
>i wish he would open up commissions so i could give him money

>>713962997
I'm an IRL janny

>>713964025
I'm more curious about what kind of contract work requires you to do 6–8 hour recording sessions non-stop without a script, if it wasn't voice acting? I'd say something like podcasting but that's not contractual work.

>>713962997
>Generic looking normalfag who thinks he isn't one.

>>713956205
Uh oh the peasants are gonna have a melty

>>713964325
That's the beauty of it, anon. Paint against all odds.
If he's still closed and you still want to help him, visit his profile and illustrations, leave a few good comments. Connect with him, not pay him.

>>713950797 (OP)
Alright, here, $0.00 +tip

>>713950797 (OP)
Some good honest work might make them appreciate some things.

>>713956089
Wish more people would treat entertainment media in general like a fun side hobby gig instead of being a shortcut to making money and avoiding meaningful jobs. Not that I entirely blame them since majority of industries is badly neglected and going to shit.

>>713964246
Not a revelation, back then only a sidebar, now idk the specifics for sure but my understanding is it should only be a preroll, same as modern twitch
It's unfortunate for the user but they need to pay server costs somehow, but in terms of my stance on watching ads, I don't really care, it's more that content quality nosedives when people are making art as a job, it's not just the ad reads, it's "I have to make a video this week to pay rent what random thing can I make a video on" this applies to music, tv, social media, everything

>>713956205
Blue collar workers are the only people who do any actual work on this planet.

>>713964563
Based and true

>>713952717
Farming as a hobby is fine, farming as a job is not going to pay unless you consider "farming" industrial scale operations full of immigrant slaves, but that makes you a farmer as much as a CEO of a videogame publishing company is a game developer

>>713956783
Only because they get endless gibs from the party of the free market (lololo)
Wake up, your taxes are being slurped by the corn jew. They get endless subsidies and price controls. Then to offload the excess corn they psyop the population into eating, drinking, fucking, and fueling their cars with corn. We're just slaves on the cob. They're draining all our aquifers because the prices are "too low" (nice free market bro),just so Jimbob doesn't have to learn a trade and can keep hustling corn to the syrup manufacturers who hustle their shit to the fat American piglet children.
Video games.

>>713964661
nani, you can totally run a small farm and sell things at the farmer's market and make a living
my cousin does it with chickens, her whole family lives off it

>>713950797 (OP)
WHAT IS THAT? PEOPLE WANT TO GET PAID FOR THEIR WORK??
Why mom's basement dwelling parasites like this?

>>713951398
>>713962251
>not programmers
good morning sirs

>>713964770
>Just have land bro

>>713963439
Oy vey!

>>713964802
I get paid $15 an hour for actually labor intensive work. You do NOT deserve $50 an hour. Fuck you. Voice acting isn't "work"

>>713964996
she worked a factory job, mortgaged a farm with that, and now makes a living farming yes
too much work for me but she's entirely self made in our meme economy (canada) so it's possible

>>713956489
Dont you have 5 meetings to schedule that could have been e-mails?

>>713965023
>People with big noses who aren't Jewish don't exist!
That's not even a hook nose, dipshit.

>>713965041
voice actors make a lot more than $50 per hour
it's more like 500+

>>713965094
That's bullshit. They should make less than your average fucking janny.

>>713965094
>voice actors make a lot more than $50 per hour
>it's more like 500+
man, that's crazy

>>713965094
Then fuck 'em. That's an absurd amount for what is essentially just reading out-loud.

>>713957828
She's the voice of the Little Mermaid

>>713965094
>how to sabotage an entire work force and make them quit
>pay them lower than shitty entertainment media
>everyone now only wants to do entertainment media
It really is just that simple

>>713964376
shoutcasting
longest one i did was 19 hours

>>713965094
The government isn't forcing anybody to pay those wages. Just don't hire them lol
You communist fags probably think scalping is evil too.

>>713964489
i'm too much of a self conscious anti social sperg to talk to people
plus i think he'd already be homeless by now. i'm too scared to check his journal to read how tragic it is

>>713965395
Don't forget, import immigrant workers for cheaper and worse labor.

>>713956205
First in the chopping stand.

>>713956205
Christian republican here. Based

>>713965463
>The government isn't forcing anybody to pay those wages. Just don't hire them lol
that's why they are getting replaced with AI lol
and your next move is to cry for the government to ban AI and force them to hire voice actors
interesting

>>713965054
>mortgaged a farm with that
so the bank owns the farm

>>713950797 (OP)
Thats clearly a strawberry field

>>713965041
Why not? People in NYC and London get paid tens of millions every year moving imaginary money around and taking infinite loans to avoid paying taxes. Who gives a fuck if a voice actor gets 50 an hour? How about instead of hating voice actors, you get together with them and the other workers so you too can earn 50/hr? Nah, better to tear each other down so the faggots in finance and real estate can "earn" another billion pushing a button and having meetings on pedo island.

You faggot.

>>713965880
YWNBAVA

>>713965573
Exept that most of those immigrants dont even work and just leech off of the tax money of the native population like the filthy parasites they are.

>>713957525
A take SO fucking shit it almost loops back to being based?

>>713957723
please explain I have no idea what's going on

I worked on an organic farm last summer picking strawberries in the morning, feeding chickens and collecting eggs
It was really peaceful and relaxed, I often think about doing it again but there isn't much money in it

>>713965041
You'll find that, as a rule, the easier work is the more you get paid for it.

>>713951398
>>713956205
The contrarian /pol/tards final form.

>>713950797 (OP)
>>713951398
>SAAARS we should all consume worthless ai slop, actually
>because some BLOODY BASTARD got paid more than I make in cow dung farm
Total AI jeet death

>>713965810
You seriously think voice actors know the difference?

>>713951398
Based and Rome-pilled

>>713961138
it's programmers on OP, retard

>>713967320
Why does Doro have such a surge in popularity lately?

You know, when your AI begging reddit post was downvoted 556 times?
that 476'th downvote was me lol

>>713956089
Based. I'm sick of everyone having to turn their hobbies into a (((side hustle))). Nobody just does things for the sake of it anymore, its all in the cynical pursuit of "making it"

>>713959659
Sounds good to me. It would be way worse if the AI kept us alive and tortured us for a billion years

>>713967630
Her new movie just came out

>>713966745
might not be specifically because of disney
but she's the VA of Ariel (Little Mermaid)
She said that back in the day she's always in family friendly stuff
Eva in MGS3 is a female spy in a game with mature rating
She was worried if she's visibly credited in this she might lost all the opportunity of working on "safer" stuff, not to mention Disney can be ruthless and just recast her in any kind of future appearances of Ariel. So she used a pseudonym in the credits, so for years people have been speculating who is her actual VA
She came out with the truth fairly recently

>>713951398
this sentiment is just going to keep becoming more and more all-encompassing as the social fabric crumbles down to just
>everyone but me should just die

>>713956089
You just had to ruin a good message by talking like a complete bitch

Only voice actors at his level should be making real money.

>>713951398
As a fellow communist, I agree wholeheartedly

>>713967089
Did you work with any hot women there, bonus points if they didn't shave their pussies.

>>713951398
Who's gonna make the video part of your video game without artists, retard?

>>713950797 (OP)
>sitting on the ground
ngmi

>>713950797 (OP)
It really pisses me off when people have that retard stare with their mouth open for some reason.

>>713958481
Dodonpachi? Absolute kino

>>713950797 (OP)
Wait is that gianni montenegro or whatever? The columbo guy? Is he a fag/enabler?

https://youtu.be/9HsMVig_B_A?si=kDUg0BkhkaeIyqzg&t=1040
You need to have a soul to appreciate great voice acting. When I hear Verso, I always think "holy shit, that guy who VAd him is so good, I could never do this, it must have took him so much effort to get good at this". I as a human relate to his struggle and respect his skills. Both the end result and VA's effort elevate experience and make it greater than the sum of it's parts. If this were voiced by AI but sounded the same, it would make experience hollow. It would just fully strip layers of depth and enjoyment.
Jeets who peddle AI are soulless husks. They are not human by their own admission and they should be stripped of human rights.

>>713951398
AI victims are not limited to these professions.

>>713961664
Holy shit are condoms really that hard to use for these people?

>>713956205
I don't think even rich fucks believe this. It's contrary to reality.

>>713951398
The market determines worth. Die commie.

>>713962997
TV news desk. just a grunt but at least i have enough influence with the editor to gatekeep against the absolute dumbest shit.

>>713956089
Nah you don't get paid because AI exists.

Honestly this shit did make me sad bc the vidya VA's as well as cartoon VA's are going through it, but then I remember, what are they really doing for society?
I know there's the whole "society wouldn't exist without artists!!!!" rhetoric but art has been overran by the pdfFile entertainment industry and I don't care about 99% of gaming and cartoons anymore.
basically if you are doing a job that is not benefiting society somehow I feel no pity for your doomed future, looking at OF models and porn drawers (the gay male version of OF models)

>>713968980
Okay, but artists being fucking obnoxious makes me not care. So, good job making hating AI lame.

>>713957525
>widely considered the most handsome voice in japan
>"he sounds so fucking stupid"
10/10 bait I'm mad

>>713965041
Imagine getting paid more than $25 an hour to go into a sound booth and do your best "anime dub voice" impression, then trying to argue that you deserve to get paid more.

>>713970153
>making hating AI lame.

Always was

>>713950797 (OP)
Shut up and pick me my cabbage for $0.50, oh yes what a lovely deal.

>>713951398
Based

>>713969248
>The market determines worth
plap plap plap get replaced by AI

>>713951398
Well said, we should just stare at a black box and draw enjoyment from it.

>>713962997
True, I'm free from labor.

>>713950797 (OP)
Is that Gianni and his BF? Why are they so skinny? Did they both get aids?

>>713962997
That's right, I have a fake job that nets me fake money with Wich I can buy fake processed food and watch my fake fiction.

>>713967089
>fug met
good taste anon

>>713957878
Strawberry Fields Forever hits different now

>>713970656
If you're actually good at it i'd argue that you would be worth it but most voice actors that get all uppity on social media are mediocre at best and complete tone deaf dogshit at worst.

>>713960376
dude looks like he's into ageplay or something, really off-putting. Why would you do this to yourself when you're reasonably fit and could look decent enough

good. there's so few people willing to work the fields even produce is being imported from china and india

>>713960251
The dumb look on his face annoys me the most. Especially with those stupid glasses.

>>713951398
hear hear

>>713951398
They rejected anon, for he spoke the truth

>>713961679
Some of it is being retarded beyond belief
Some of it is rent and house prices
You cannot own your own property at the same time in life as your parents did without a mortgage, aka you can't live without debt

it doesn't help that the poor and the impulsive are subsidised

>>713950797 (OP)
>taking selfies and sitting down instead of working
They should be fired on the spot. People have no work ethics anymore.

>>713950797 (OP)
>>713951398
>fail to read contract
>complain you failed to read the contract
By the way, why don't amerimutts have basic worker's rights?

>>713970709
>hey what do you use AI for?
>I use it to prove my job is 99% repetitive tasks and meetings where if you replaced me with a chatbot productivity would go up
https://xcancel.com/im_roy_lee/status/1938718987975827651/

>I also use it to generate porn
>either I will use a free online service if I'm a thirdie or a pirate, and get frustrated with trying to trick it into putting liquid vanilla ice cream into the mouths of girls
>or I will download a program and go straight to generating bestiality and child pornography

>I will yell and kick and scream about artists and how AI is liberating and democratising content creation
>how dare artists hold all the power I could have if I picked up a pencil
>I will also call myself an artist and anyone who dares say otherwise just doesn't understand prooompting is really difficult

>I demand attention wherever I go and spam the only vaguely good pieces the AI spat out

>I will be triggered if I ever see a four letter word starting with s and ending with p

>>713973230
Because it's communism.

>>713973547
>basic rights = communism
Jews really did a number on you, huh.

>>713951398
Indeed.

>>713973620
It's literally what burgers think. Rights, regulations, minimal wage, welfare - supposedly it's all crap that stifles businesses and prevents natural trickle down effect. They say workers should toil from rags to riches, chasing after the American dream.

>>713951398
trvke

>>713973620
Even I could read anon's sarcasm.

>>713973547
It's good to see this website's still in touch with its libertarian side among all the gay "republican" zoomers that infested every board

>>713957889
>Talking into a microphone is not a job.
This is how you end up with Yong Yeah voicing your games.
Retard.

>>713952717
Mmmhh delicious work especially at 100 yards foot or whatever heat measure you use.

>>713960424
>>make a squintillion dollars a month
>>pay voice actors $100
>>this is fair, reasonable, valid, and the free market at work
yes absolutely
they should just get an actual job and do voice work as a gig

>>713950797 (OP)
That's clearly just a picture of people picking strawberries for fun , has anyone on this board ever actually done any work on farms?

>>713950797 (OP)
I'm afraid that they are paying to do that. This shit is very popular in Japan.

>>713958992
very problematic ai

>>713950797 (OP)
/v/ has never gone strawberry picking and then had strawberry sundaes after and it shows

>>713952717
"farming" can be a lot of things
spending your life picking berries for the owner of the farm in the heat is not good, fun, productive or profitable(pending)

>>713960459
But what IS he worth

>>713967630
vtubers

>>713956089
I find art, even if just small things helps me keep a handle on how shit my life is, sometimes just grabbing a pencil and paper or opening a drawing software helps me put myself at ease. I can't bring myself to ask for money on my work, it's not of great quality anyway and I find it to be a means of expression, feels wrong to just sell it.
>>713962997
I got one though.
Farming barely pays these days with how shit the tariffs on terrain are and how much the kikes go out of their way to fuck with us, but it's an honest job I'd say and it has plenty of avenues for profit, all depends on how hard you're willing to work for it.

>>713964372
so, a pedophile then. got it.

>>713956717
>WTF HOW WILL WE FIND JOBS NOW THAT THE COTTON GIN HAS BEEN INVENTED?!

>>713951398
>Attacks people with a love for their craft
>Doesn't mention (((producers))) and consultants
Average /pol/tard

>>713961664
>castrating yourself for a political agenda
absolutely hilarious.

>>713960251
>>713960376
Thats what Gianni looks like now????

>>713981680
yeah, he slimmed down and likes to larp as an emo e-boy faggot with painted nails now >>713959440

>>713950797 (OP)
Wow he lost a lot of weight

>>713980834
That's an... odd thing to say.

The strike/s are not about individual actors getting paid, it's about the corrupt Unions protecting their business.

>>713982579
if you're a janitor working in any school setting, you're pedophile coded by default.

>>713963182
The Cult of Work is strong here.

>>713982820
I... don't work in a school? I never said I did.

>>713965054
In the process of doing this. But I bought land outright. Didn't go to college, worked at walmart for the past 18 years.

>>713982916
oh, okay. my bad.

>>713951398
[You can help expand this list]

>>713950797 (OP)
Video games never should have tried to be movies. The concept of trying to make a living off of video game voice acting should never have been a thing in the first place. It sucks, but imo they kinda deserve it too. Although it's the smoothbrained corpos who should really suffer, but likely never will

>>713983012
Assumption-making FAGGOT

>>713962997
I worked 11 years doing IT started in the call center and ended up in one of those fake "spreadsheet guy that makes a suspicious amounts of money" job and then bought a farm

>>713951398
No,Crispin Freeman and the VA of Vergil and Dante are pretty cool guys

>>713951398
It makes the best kind of art.

I think I would rather pick crops than work retail.
>outside
>no customers
>very literally close to nature
>you're actually (to an extent) paid in proportion to how much work you did, whereas in retail any extra effort you put in becomes expected as your new norm with no compensation

>>713983515
Don't underestimate farming. It's hard work.

>>713981009
Correct. What the US got in return was 200 years of racial tensions as they had no place for ex-slaves. I guess it also got us BBC porn.

>>713983273
wow, i apologize to you and you just insult me? that's not nice :(

>>713952717
Yeah but it's too far from their gooner stations to be any fun, what if they miss some important Twitter snip

>>713983515
everyone thinks grass is greener on the other side

>retail
>factories
>fast food
each is its own circle of hell. I'm not sure where farming sits, but it can't be pleasant.

>>713983331
>the VA of Vergil and Dante are pretty cool guys
Those guys are stunt men, martial artists and toku actors. Even without the VA gig, Langdon and Southworth are cool as fuck while other VAs tend to be very vain. Langdon handled himself very well after learning that he wouldn't be voicing Ken in SF6 and Dante in the Netflix slop, but thankfully he's still the Dante VA since he returned for PGR. Here's a cool Tekken vs SF fan film featuring Southworth and Langdon as Ryu and Ken. I can't name a single American VA who matches Southworth and Langdon when it comes to passion and coolness. If more VAs were like them, I'd actually care about their screetching on twitter.
https://youtu.be/Hn_HaEf62h4?si=z-eFczbUHMqm9I77

>>713965041
>he thinks his work is valued by the labor he puts into it
>and not the potential for profit
You just got sold the greatest lie Capitalism has to offer

>>713961405
huh?

>>713961664
So why do people get vasectomies anyway, they like the feeling of nutting without a condom pretty much yeah?

>>713965573
The last time they pulled immigrant workers to give Americans jobs the markets went empty, the government was literally forced to bring Mexicans back as seasonal laborers because Americans just won't do the jobs

>>713983637
>Oh, okay. My bad.
That's not an apology >:^(

>>713983890
he is part of a push to make it so that all animated characters should only be voiced by people of the same race as them, which in theory he did in an effort to get more asian voice actors work (doubtlessly thinking of himself) by making it so that asians must be hired to voice asian characters, but in practice, asian voice actors get just as much work as anyone else voicing all kinds of characters but now apparrentley they should only voice asian characters and get less work.

>>713984013
it literally is. not everything has to be dropping to your knees and groveling in despair type of apology.

>>713983614
>I guess it also got us BBC porn.
god save abraham lincoln

>>713962997
I run pest control programs for marijuana farms :^)
You guys probably smoked weed I worked with

>>713973537
Lotta seethe in your post, sis.

>>713950797 (OP)
>voice acting is considered a skill worthy of being paid more than minimum wage.
>noooo doing jobs that are productive for society are for dirty browns
FUCK OFF ENTITLED FAGGOTS AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE

>>713983515
>>713983771
With farming it depends on the work you do. Strawberry picking can wear you down depending on your chosen method of picking them berries (my go-to is squatting over the bushes; kneeling, bending over or sitting tends to fuck me up even more), especially if you do it for long stretches of time.

>>713984752
It's not as easy as blueberries for sure. :^)
Nothing is as unpleasant as harvesting nettles though.

>>713984836
I've never done blueberry picking at a farm, I've only collected wild blueberries. Out in the wild it tends to come down to the forest itself; some forests are easier to traverse and provide natural changes in elevation etc.
No experience with nettles.

>>713951398
>says the anon obsessed with artistic media, on a board revolving entirely around them, on a website founded to discuss them

>>713985012
Never seen wild blueberries, the farm that I hand at has these gorgeous 20 year old ladies that drip berries and those are quite easy to pick.
Blackberries are just starting to fruit, it's a dry year though so the taste will be interesting

>>713985446
Wild blueberries grow close to the ground, so you need to hunch down to reach them. Farmed blueberries tend to be bigger, both in terms of the berry and the plant.

>>713985446
used to go find blueberry patches in Alaska, but you have to watch out for bears because they loves berries.

>>713986598
there are lowbush and highbush wild blueberries.

>>713986771
Well, just talking from my own perspective, since Finland doesn't seem to have anything but lowbush blueberries in the wild.

>>713961154
>it is just shame how much /v/ has turned against artists in general.
it's a strange stance to have when every videogame you loved was made by an artist.
yes, all gamedevs are artists.

>>713956089
>it's okay to make money from doing shitty things that actively harms others
>but don't you DARE think about making money from doing something that other people would love!

>>713969196
there's quite a few billionaires (especially silicon valley types) who literally believe they descend from the pharaohs

you have no idea how much that kind of wealth fucks up your brain - not just from the wealth itself, but also from spending decades surrounding yourself with people who never question or challenge you in any way

>>713988265
he didn't say any of that

>>713950797 (OP)
Is it acting if they do the same voice every time?

>>713988813
That's the sentiment of this entire thread. For some reason the neets here think you're not allowed to profit from artistic creations that people are willing to pay for and you're also an evil piece of shit for even being an artist even though said neets want to consume your art. I don't think I've seen a more psychotic thread on /v/ before.

>>713957238
I don't recognize any of those characters. Maybe I'm out of touch with modern anime.

>>713951398
This. Maybe their art would improve.

>>713951398
Soul. They shouldn't even be professions. If they weren't full time faggots, the rest of us could get by on 20hr work weeks.

>>713989206
4chan is a crab bucket anon. People here will always want to drag you down to their non-existent level. Arguing in good faith? Too much work, just call them a retard if they disagree and close the thread.

>>713989374
>If they weren't full time faggots, the rest of us could get by on 20hr work weeks.
You implying they are earning your parts as well, which is why you have to work 200% of what you should be? Is that correct?

>>713989492
I'm implying that they need to pick up a shovel and WORK.

>>713989582
What's your job, anon?

>>713951398
Honestly a skill issue. Workers had to deal with computerization now its their turn.

>>713988720
yet they would never walk into a ghetto with that paper mache confidence.

>>713950797 (OP)
>white
fake and gay, the owners could for the price of two whities hire twenty mexicans.

>>713989689
Shoveler

>>713990574
What do you shovel?

>evil commies, USSR: robots will make manual labour unnecessary humans will be free to pursue art and leisure!
>morally superior, based rightoids, USA: AI should take all creative jobs, actually. then we will all slave away our life and health on factories for food and it's a good thing

>>713950797 (OP)
Nah fuck off, tired of these hipster "artists" attempting to hold a union/guild authority and make everyone go through them to obtain any artistic expression. They can all fucking starve. Anyone attempting to bully, harass, legislate, or otherwise stop me from using AI to make fun pictures and videos via union rep intimidation tactics can fall down the Mario hole.

>>713991938
People don't exactly have a problem with you proompting night in and day out, anon. It's AI-advocates (not you, hopefully) that keep posting about the complete downfall of artists - while berating them, calling them talentless hacks, just because they now can generate AI images - that get on everyone's nerves. Of course artists wouldn't be happy to just let people insult them, and you simply got caught in the flak between two sides of a stupid war.

>>713957238
Jap VAs usually do stuff outside of just VA like singing or TV show hosting etc.

>>713950797 (OP)
kek incels really can't distinguish between cabbage and straberries
hahahahahaha lol

>>713962753
>300 a month for groceries for one person
Stop being fat
>Paying monthly for car insurance
Oh your just retarded. Opinion ignored

>>713989264
I only know 3 and hate 2 of them lol. Fire force is good at least

>>713970240
>widely considered the most handsome voice in japan
>this correlates to quality of voicework somehow
you are part of the problem. Seiyuu culture is shit. Bring back faceless voice actors

>>713994940
Not that Anon, professional car insurance dodger, but isn't it illegal in the USA to drive without it?

>>713956089
You are a man among men
I think the same way, all art should be given freely
People are welcome to support your efforts monetarily, but the pieces of art themselves don't need a price tag

>>713984403
He quite literally didn't.

>>713970016
>McDonalds will completely replace regular food
>Cars will completely replace bicycles
>Exports and chinese knockoffs will completely replace domestic
You're so stupid it's actually amazing.

>>713962997
I'm trying man...

Give me one single reason why delivery drivers, plumbers, construction workers, waiters, taxi drivers, electricians, factory workers, retail employees, etc... would be worse if they were all robots instead of humans?
Self checkout machine are already better than regular cashiers.
Most metros, trams and trains are on auto pilot, we still put a pilot in them to avoid incidents.
Literally every single job requiring precise movement and flawless draftmenship would be better with machines, the same way all car assembly lines and such are already automated.
The world where all shitty wageslave jobs are replaced by robots, everyone would be cooks, musicians, athletes, artists and would enjoy improving their skill in what they like. Instead subhumans Neets on a mongolian weaving forums rather have all painful jobs to be done by humasns and all fun jobs to be done by soulless machine, then complain about jews and industry slops. A board full of contradictions.

>>713996642
>The world where all shitty wageslave jobs are replaced by robots, everyone would be cooks, musicians, athletes, artists and would enjoy improving their skill in what they like.
To be completely honest, that's the best outcome.
What have we got so far in this AI craze?
>Billion dollars tech company creates AI of "700+ Indian engineers"
>Making money off AI prompts instead of - like you said - letting AI do menial tasks while we focus on our real hidden talents
>Making young people even more retarded than they already were
>Scams, buzzwords, tribal wars

>>713956089
This my brother has a normal job and art is his hobby.
Art whores deserve the rope.

>>713995938
you can pay every 6 months at a HUGE discount. My monthly insurance rate is 230 but if I pay in 6 month blocks it is 650

>>713957931
Worked in American television for a few years. That industry is awful. Thought of moving to film or even public television, but they're all equally miserable. Now I'm a welding apprentice and couldn't be happier.

Go to /pol/ retard

>>713951398
spbp

>>713950797 (OP)
Quiet and get back to the cabbage, nobody wants to hear your voice!

>>713996642
They need people to slave away doing manual labour. Otherwise people might have time to look around them and think. There's a reason cybernetics and automation of hard, manual work has been basically on stand still for past 20 years. There's a reason why they invest billions in AI that replaces all creative and intellectual jobs and push everyone to factories and fields. They want neo peasantry for tech feudalism.

>>713998458
Most people can't even imagine how they would feel if they didn't eat breakfast this morning, there's no harm in most people thinking

>>713951398
I wish brown people would leave the internet.

>>713951398
Accurate for westoids.

>>713956089
this, but i still stopped drawing because i hate people

>>713997261
Huh, I wasn't aware they gave out batch payments. Probably good to know if I ever have to start paying it.

>>713965880
>who gives a fuck?
voice actors, apparently. they're waking up to the fact that they've only had their jobs because of a cabal of legal warfare goons that racketeer for laughably high wages, which is now being torn down by replicated voices that are made by a computer program. They can put their voice acting to good use at the Burger King drive-in speaker, but automation might take those jobs over too.

>>713999656
American, right? Unions are the reason you can shitpost on a weekend instead of work after getting a quick church break

>>714000014
>Unions are the reason you can shitpost on a weekend
no pretty sure it was the threat of massive violence 100 years ago
>b-but
yeah shut the fuck up. Modern American unions are just mafia fronts

>>714000014
>church
>"work"
I'm self employed and I get to shitpost on the weekend because I'm too lazy to spend it drawing porn (which is my hobby, not my work). You should try owning land, it's great.

In my county, voice actors are often working in theater since they already have to work with their voices there.

>>713951398
this, so much this

A culture without artists is basically India or Singapore

>>713996269
Imagine thinking AI is equivalent to any of those
As always the mentally challanged calling others stupid

>>713956089
based, fuck everyone else. I draw as a hobby not for clout or money. They can all eat my ass

>>714004661
You think AI will replace any and all human made art? How delusional are you?

>>713960509
Programmers are literally one of the leading jobs in payment, what kind of cope is this?

>>713960251
Why do all zoomers wear nail polish? I'm not against fagging it once in a while I just wonder why?

>>713962997
i'm a hpo, I hate my job.

>>714005593
AI makes it easier for your average joe to make stuff themselves instead of hiring some hobbyst (like the guy I was replying to) for it
You are putting words in my mouth becauss you are fucking retard and can only win against the retarded shit that comes up in your mind
don't reply to me again

>"haha yes die die die workers we hate you we want you to be homeless AI will replace you"
>"okay, we will elect a socialist who will use the welfare state to take care of us instead"
>"NOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT"
Mamdani actually got people between 18-40 out to vote en masse and they voted for protection from you people lmao

>>713962997
im a garbage man

>>714003397
what's wrong with singapore?

>>713957931
Yes and it feels good to see them get fucked by AI.

>>713956717
Menial labor will always exist in nignog neighborhoods since they destroy robots so I wouldn't worry too much

>>713956089
>>713957959
>>713962482
>>714005228
>>713963985
>Heh, my gimmick is that artists should NEVER be paid EVER for anything! Got a million dollars to hand me? Nope! I don't deserve to be paid! ;)
You're all soulless heathens and just as bad as AI niggers.

>>713950797 (OP)
>literally just a photo of some guy going strawberry picking because it's June and that's when they're in season
>400+ replies

I'm spending my Sunday with lunatics

>>714007474
>AI faggot is an ESL
Shit writes itself LMAO
>>714008000
>trips of retardation
>failure in life jealous of others doing what they want and wanting them to fail to sate his own inadequacy
Typical. And pathetic.

>>714008212
he's an obnoxious gay faggot VA who supports trannies and having children be castrated. that's the main topic of the thread. we are shitting on him and making fun of him for it, because he deserves it.

>>713964726
>We're just slaves on the cob.
Amazing.

Don't forget that NAFTA's provision on American corn being the preferred market item when competing with Mexican corn put all the Mexican corn farmers out of business, which is one of the primary reasons that all those Mexican farmers started coming to America to do their farming. Whole communities were ravaged basically overnight. Corn is indirectly responsible for the immigration crisis that has defined the last 5 years.

>>713958481
Genuinely sovl anon

>>713950797 (OP)
I don't want these trannylators touch and ruin my salad with their woke agenda

>>713950797 (OP)
Man I'd do farmwork if I could but they all just hire outside the country because they can get away with paying temp workers 6$ an hour.

lol

>>714007474
Generative AI is in no way easy to set up for an "average joe", a lot of retards use paid models that come pre-packaged and the results are just utter trash.
You probably don't understand anything about generative AI in the first place, you're just spouting uninformed shit like the dunning-kruger faggot you are.

And someone who has no understanding of art in general, won't ever make something that looks good, even with the assist of generative AI. Sure, they can make images, but they'll always end up looking like shit, because there's no artistic eye directing the generation. AI "artists" are less than hobbyist artists, they are mere hobbyists and the shit they gen will only have value to themselves, as nobody else in the universe would ever want their images. People love their own polished turds, but for everybody else, it's just shit.

And just like mass produced clothes, furniture etc. there's always people who appreciate hand crafted objects more than those that come from a factory. Human touch will always have its place in commerce.

>>713951398
Based

>>713956089
Giga Based

>>713951398
holy based

>>713950797 (OP)
This guy used to be okay when first started, but now he's just a lolcow and a shit stain on the retro FPS community.
Someone should make a channel that does the same shit as him minus "gay = funny" bullshit and the weird identity politics.

>>713951398
Absolutely. Fuck those smug pricks

>>714012162
DreadAnon seems to be doing that, and mainly focuses on WH4K meme content.

>>713969196
Ayn Rand wrote a whole book about it, many people make that book their entire personality.

>>713950797 (OP)
Don't care. You get hired to do a job, you don't want to do your job, you lose it.

>>713969196
Most people are on the same level as dogs. The type of people who do not ever plan ahead. Spend every dollar they make. Finance pizza etc. Our species is called "homo sapiens" because we believe ourselves to be the animal with WISDOM. Many people lack the defining characteristic that would make them a human being. If you cannot plan for the future and live in the moment all of the time you are absolutely not human.

Now there are humans who work blue collar and trades and even bottom tier wagies. There are highly intelligent people who do these jobs who deserve respect. But at the same time it is true that the majority of them are genetric trash actually lower than dogs in the heirarchy of value.

>>713990147
this isn't the own you think it is

The peasants wishing death on others have to know that elites are literally positioning everything to kill you right now.
>>713951398
Automation will eventually extend this feeling to everyone not elite. You're going to die hunted by a drone or left to die.

berry pickers lmao

>>714013725
I choose the elites over sweaty smelly retarded brown masses every time. The elite are intelligent and beautiful and based. I will fight for them no matter what

>>714013875
you are poor

>>714013950
Yeah I didn't say I was rich

>>714013875
They literally don't want you lmao, you're the same unwashed mass, the plan is literally getting worked on right now, maneuvering exactly to engage it in the future. Btw, they're picking a certain ethnic group based on how docile for long term, the rest are going to get exterminism.

>>713963182
this, and remember to pay taxes and get your woman pregnant and train your kids to become even better workers

>>713994940
>for one person
two, me and the wife. 150 per person is slim. as to your insurance point, my geico plan doesn't offer discounts on 6 month vs month to month. i pay per 6 months for the price i listed. even if i trimmed the groceries down to a theoretical 100 dollars and i lived alone, and i cut my auto insurance in half, it only amounts to a little extra per year. enough to save for more emergencies or whatever. not enough to comfortably swing a mortage.

your vehemence proves that you're simply combative without knowing what you're talking about. i don't know why, but every time i run these numbers there's always one person like you who gets genuinely angry about it.

>>713956723
nobody i guess but that's ok
i'd rather die with a smile knowing no niggers/orcs are living in my city.

>>714013875
>and beautiful
lol

>>714014409
Its a fact that they are more beautiful. All of the good genes coalesce around wealth. Wealth is attractive, only the most beautiful and exceptional people are allowed to marry up into wealth. So over time all of the good genes tend to accumulate together. They are literally superior to us in every way.

>>714013875
I find it funny how you and really everyone are getting played right now, it only proves their argument right, that you're all fucking cattle unfit to live on earth, dysgenic.

Nationalism, racism, counterracism, religious zealots, both mass migration and anti migration, every group has been astroturfed to maximize to division on people, every new and new conflict stripping more rights of people. The current start of the imperial boomerang just on America ends on a self genocide of the poor and permanent surveillance of the few transition population workforce until it can be better applied

>>714014128
shop for insurance anon. You are getting raped by health insurance and car insurance . This is before pointing out the fact you paid 2 grand twice for "mid level" repairs. Just do it yourself in an afternoon

>>713950797 (OP)
That's a couple of gender-ambiguous people in a u-pick strawberry field. Is that the best picture you could find to represent your topic?

>>714014612
the average trailer park has more hot 18 year olds than the elite. The elite look good long term because they pay for expensive cosmetic surgery and beauty products

>>714014617
>genocide of the poor

good that is literally what I hope happens. Also you are the one who is suckered into viewing the world through the lens of class rather than the lens of race which is older and stronger and more real and true.

I don't think he said that
Why are you guys campaigning this shit so hard?

>>713956089
based
>>713957031
>>713961154
>>713962772
crabs

>>713951398
Whose decision was it to not dub past episode 50 for Gintama? Because it feels like that was a complete waste of getting loads of dosh for English VAs.

>>714014857
The elite literally have no race though, they're just this weird alliance of state power and corporations, old money, new money who are seeing and know that the uppity masses want more and more and they're human, scared pathetic humans.
You still think of sides, you, me, everyone not rich is considered a genetic stain on the planet who will not live even in memory after their plan comes to fruition.

>>714014793
I explained a theory for why the elite tend to be more beautiful. Your response was literally an anecdote where you neither disproved my theory or offered a counter-theory whereby low status is actually correllated with beauty. Thats obviously not the case but you still argue like a retard and you should lurk more.

>>714015078
>a theory
a theory which isn't true. The elite are historically ugly because of inbreeding and political marriages. Even as bait this doesn't work for anyone with a brain. Do the elite a favor and start their genocide with yourself

>>714015078
>Your response was literally an anecdote
I don't think you know what an anecdote is. Or you are impressively retarded/merely pretending

>>714015041
Elite are white. Elite are always white. Even in non-white countries the genes which make a person elite are correllated with light colored skin. So even in Mexico, China, Japan, etc etc. The elite are always the lightest skinned people of that society. In ever society on earth the light skinned people form the upper class. This is true across the entire world and it has also been true across time, since germanic genes took over the roman empire.

>>714014652
>shop for insurance
i have, i get quoted the same give or take 45 bucks. i swapper FROM farmers insurance to geico for that exact reason, then geico raised their rates.
>This is before pointing out the fact you paid 2 grand twice for "mid level" repairs. Just do it yourself in an afternoon
that was an example of possible costs. the oral surgery actually happened. however, i'm not capable of doing something on the order of dropping the engine out of my car, i street park and have no equipment. im aware that on certain issues you can save money. but even if i bump up my savings to 20k a year (requiring no unexpected costs and a significant raise in my wages) that still wouldn't comfortably cover a mortage and the incidentals needed to keep up a house. if i needed a new roof i would be fucked.

at a certain point there's no getting around these numbers, the american financial complex is designed to either keep you in constant debt, or out of property ownership. im not trying to absolve my personal responsibility, only showing that it is obscenely easy to become paycheck to paycheck and end up in debt.

>>714015392
My fucking god, this is the level of the opposition? You're beyond stupid, btw a good chunk alone is jewish lol. Enjoy getting drone striked or sent on confusing military orders to sure death

>>714015208
If you really think the elite arent more beautiful then you have never been around rich people in your life.

>>714015543
Maybe do a little googling and you will be surprised. Better yet simply point out a country where the elite are are darker skinned than the general population. You wont because such a society does not exist on planet earth :)

>>714014652
oh, and the health insurance is the cheapest my company offers. 500 a month is essentially the statistical average cost in the USA. it may be a little under it, actually.

i get the sneaking suspicion im not talking with actual adults here.

>>714015693
I will not talk with someone this stupid.

>>713957723
>VA industry in the west is so wacky

>>714015765
Looks like you cant find a society where the elite are not lighter skinned than the lower classes. I accept your L and your concession. Thanks for playing

>>714012563
He seems to be funny, but I still kinda want some stupid ass FPS memes without being spammed with "dude what if Duke Nukem was gay lmao."

>>714015392
Don't indians have CEO's in google and shit? Didn't know they were withe

>>713951398
>when the people who told you to just learn to code got their jobs automated before you
They really thought talking and drawing would be harder for tech to do than pipe laying and welding

>>714016194
The elites in India are the most light skinned people of the country from the Brahmin caste. Some of them do look almost spanish.

The ones in America are not elite they are wagies. Highly compensated wagies but still

>>713962753
>8k in taxes
You lucky fuck. I make $90k and pay $30k in income tax, not to mention fucking sales tax that is 8.5% where I live (no tax on healthy food and basic clothes, however).
>$200/mo auto insurance
I used to pay that much, but I switched to Progressive and now only pay $20.
>Car payment
That's fucked; just buy a shitbox straight up.

>>714015709
>500 a month is essentially the statistical average cost in the USA
good to know I am saving 6k a year not having health insurance holy fucking kek. I'll get it when I'm in my late 30s

best thread on /v/ right now

>>714015709
I just checked my paystub and I pay 112 biweekly so 224. I cannot fucking believe people pay 500 on average

>>713951398
T. malding warehouse chimp

>>713951398
>>713956089
based

>>713956205
EXTREMELY BASED

>>714017737
And before you screech about it being shit or whatever the lowest plan was ~70 a month so I have no idea what your problem is. You smoke or some retarded shit? I know they penalize you for smoking in my area at least but I don't know how much it is

>>713956205
>Managerial class loses working class
>No one to manage
So... What is the play here? You just don't want to work and be a neet? If so based

>>714017290
>20$ a month
in what state and for what coverage?
>buy a shitbox
no. i played that game before, got a tacoma with 120k miles on it, looked good, had a good mechanic look it over for me and after the first year it cost me 9k in repairs on top of the 6k it cost me. now the AC is out on it. i could have financed a 20k mirage or some shit and it wouldn't have given me the grief and work time lost from breaking down in the middle of a work week.

it's a hypothetically smart move, if you don't get a bad dice roll.
>>714017637
yeah if you don't have any health problems, just take care of yourself and put it off imo. it doesn't even cover huge catastrophes anyway. if you get seriously ill, my experience has been that you're just hosed unless you have the best coverage possible.
>>714017737
i have to cover my wife keep in mind, but again for my overall point 250 dollars a month doesn't really change the picture. if you rerun my autistic number crunching for 100 a month groceries, 200 a month health insurance and 100 a month auto a mortage is still really dicey at the median income. im not gonna recheck but i assume id be saving more like 15k a year, and the increase in price to a mortage over a rental would knock off something like 8-9k in savings. that is simply not enough of a buffer to be financially responsible for a 300-500k asset. add property tax and insurance and i don't even know what would be left of my salary.

>>714018183
>300 a month for a car with 120k miles on it
What in the hell anon you are fucking retarded

>>714018183
>in what state and for what coverage?
MN and the minimum liability insurance; if something happens to my car, I'll just pay for the fix or get a new one.
>$9k repairs
Just buy a new shitbox for that much and dump the Tacoma/whatever car breaks down.

>>714018361
That was his prior car dummy

>>713956717
I got a temp contract working in an office.
I answer ~5 emails and work on shit I need to and am finished within 2 hours most days.
I spend the rest of the time working on random stuff that's not even important or real.
This is the reality for 40% of the workforce in America right now.

>>714018183
Simply but a house in the sticks that needs work for 150k. Worked for me and now I am 90% a neet
>How can you be 90% a neet
I help my neighbor who is a farmer for fun and I get food

>>714018361
why on earth would you jump to that assumption. no, the 300 dollars a month is for a new kia i have, that shitbox truck is sitting in some junkyard somewhere.
>>714018407
>Just buy a new shitbox for that much and dump the Tacoma/whatever car breaks down.
>drop 6k on a car, total lemon, scrap it for 500
>roll the dice on another 6k car, hope this one works
no. i can't afford to gamble like that. if you can, more power to you. im not a mechanic, i need some basic assurance that my car won't blow up.

>>714018653
Are you Texan or something? Only a Texan would know nothing about cars and buy a truck only to pay out the ass because he's too retarded to Google the problem

>>713951398
basedo

>>714018776
>not having a truck

Small dick energy. Also you can’t be a proper landlord or go camping

The future is now, old man. Occupy Wall Street never died, it just slept for a bit

>>714018652
>Simply but a house in the sticks that needs work for 150k
ah yes, the mythical unicorn house that always comes up. i have never seen a listing in my tiny, rural county for a house under 350k that wasn't outright condemned in the last decade. again, good for you but you have to acknowledge you are an extreme outlier.
>>714018776
i didn't need to google that my engine blew a head gasket, dipshit. im not equipped to repair an engine. im not a mechanic. none of this even has anything to do with my central point:
>>713962224
>>713961679
these two anons are retarded. more retarded than me, even.
>>714018361
also i just realized that i referred to the ac failure in present-tense. my bad anon i can see why you thought the truck was an ongoing thing

>>714019064
>Can't go camping
Tents are tiny retard.

>>713964563
Anything you do that doesn't directly provide sustenance to you and your family is not "real work."

>>714019156
>ah yes, the mythical unicorn house that always comes up
They are literally all over once you get 50 miles away from major cities. If your "tiny rural county" doesn't have them you aren't a "tiny rural county" but rather a suburb.

is this another genshin vs sag aftra thread?

>>714018653
>>drop 6k on a car, total lemon, scrap it for 500
Nah, bro. Lemons don't make it to ~90k-110k miles. Search that milage range for single or two owner vehicles and check the car fax. Make sure they've taken care of it and that it either has consistent oil change records or no oil change records (and the owner confirming that they have changed their oil consistently -- yeah, you'll need to judge their character to tell if you can trust them or not, so there is risk with this option if there are no records).

>>713951398
You know you hit the mark when the theatre kid tourists are all seething, good job.

>>714019680
No but it can be

>>714019440
my county has a combined population of 100k across 3,500 square miles and doesn't have a single city with more than 29,000 people. i dunno how much more rural id have to go in order to get affordable housing but i suspect it isn't a reasonable proposition for most people and that you are even more of a statistical outlier than you let on.
>>714019820
still a risk i can't take. people lie. most people don't keep oil change records. it's a lot of gambling to MAYBE save 10k. for a car that will last half as long anyway.

>>714019979
that drama is already over
The only thing i will miss is Hu Tao's eng VA.
Paimon, Keq and the rest can go eat a big fat dick

>>714019990
They are all over the Midwest all down Appalachia. I image the Rockies is also cheap on the NE side but admittedly I have no idea. The second you get off the coastal states and away from cities houses become dirt ass cheap

>>714019990
>An inconvenient week isn't worth a year of saving by your own math
Uhhh ok. To each their own

>>713961664
>literally use the pull out method with wife
>have 2 kids on purpose impregnated precisely when we decided
>not one accident
Why are men such fucking chumps, show some restraint and bust on their thighs/ass

>>714020734
No idea. I have used a condom twice in my life. Shit feels like fucking a grocery bag. Been fucking the wife for years without a condom Until we tried to have one but the miscarriage killed her ability to carry completely

>>713951398
There's a very good reason actors were considered lower than prostitutes back in the day when it got invented

>>714021081
when were actors invented?

>>714015846
>that pic
Guess they forgot to unlock all the cast beforehand.

>>714021397
The Greeks made them back when Greece was a thing

voice acting has made games shittier
voice actors should be paying ME

>>714021808
This. I have beaten this into a friend who used to shill for voice actors. Games being designed around voice acting has been extremely detrimental and brought in undesirables into the space

>>714020118
>eng VA
It was never about the English VAs. Well the threads at least. No one with a brain uses English VAs for Eastern works. It was merely a vehicle to beat the cabal with

>>714021772
I miss Greece. That shit was bussin fr.

>>714022152
I kinda enjoy both jap and eng voices. Unfortunately there are only a bunch of decent eng VAs while the rest are mediocre or just fucking awful like Paimon after Mondo and Klee

>>714022293
It takes 1 bad voice actor to ruin a production. In western dubbing about 85-90% are bad and of those about half are irredeemably bad. As such is is basically impossible to have a good dub

I would be an amazing voice actor if I got the chance

make another thread
i need to shitpost

>>713951398
BASED TRVTHNVKE