racing games actually had real challenge back then and had good music to boot. Make mistakes and it’s over no rewind

>>713953646 (OP)
>racing games actually had real challenge
>need-for-speed-hot-pursui(...).png

>>713953646 (OP)
Gran Turismo 2 on PS1 had a soul, it's the kino of all racing games.
GT3 on PS2 had better graphics but it felt soulless.
GT4 was just a empty husk, all magic was lost.
Didn't play the sequels for long for that reason.

Are there any modern games that begin with buying a junker and slowly building up from there? It felt so good grinding from nothing to a modest sports car

>>713953943
I really disagree with GT3 and GT4 feeling empty or soulless. they had little touches that still felt like classic gran turismo. 5 and onwards was the real change.

>>713953943
>the objective best games of the franchise are le SOULless because no quirky ps1 graphics

>>713953646 (OP)
As a fan of mostly rally games, and with the exception of RBR, most rally games are better these days. Sure, old Colin McRae games were fun but they were super casual. Even dumb official WRC games are better than most rally games from back in the day. And I'm just talking about gameplay of course, not the graphics because they are obviously better now.

https://youtu.be/8gDMkn3MdO8

>>713954212
I can’t get into rally games. They’re so difficult because I have shit reaction time and the co driver voices calling out turns are weird to me.

>>713954324
wait till you dont have an issue understanding the co-driver but regardless of your settings he starts giving calls AFTER YOU REACH THE CORNER ALREADY. thanks dirt rally 2.0 for absolutely nothing.

I easily remember playing the greatest racing game ever made, because it just released this month

>>713954185
The Fat Era where all cars drove like they're ice skates floating on a sea of butter sucked. All games of the PS2-PS3 generation had it. GT, Forza, NFS, all of them are like controlling a puck on an air hockey table because Fast & Furious came out and it became more important to get cool slides than it was to make fun cars that drive realistically

>>713954846
>baby game

this game. this fucking game. great but frustrating. I’ll die having never beaten this game.

>>713953646 (OP)
>had real challenge back then
>Make mistakes and it’s over no rewind
This is literally the newest Need For Speed game minus the good music.

>>713954995
gt3 and gt4 cars did not handle like that at all

I like GT7

>>713953646 (OP)
>checkout the new flatout kind of game, wreckfest or whatever it's called
>all the videos I watch make it look slow as fuck

is the game really as slow as molasses or it's just me? I think I'll just play some midnight club dub edition and yeah I'm saying that because I saw a midnight club thread two seconds ago

>>713955160
CARS REAL BIG

>>713953646 (OP)
I only liked nfs hot pursuit because of the variety of tracks with tons of different themes and scenery. Also because of the race customization; you can race with just ferrari if you want, and also any number of racers with any number of laps. The music tracks also sounded great while racing sports cars on scenic roads.

>>713955975
wreckfest doesn’t go super fast but it’s not sluggish, unless you drive busses and crash them into each other.

>>713954846
Pic unrelated.

>>713953646 (OP)
I think finite rewind is better than infinite restart, but forcing you to redo the whole tournament is even better

I gave Ridge Racer new port a try on my Switch 2, and it's already better than mame just because it doesn't run like shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elEshnClums
I've been stuck trying to get a good time on the Time Attack mode, but I don't think I can hit it well enough on the controller.

>>713956680
For me it's

https://youtu.be/miWPsaeD65Y

I wish they would bring back all racing games from the 2000s.

>>713955160
it's not that hard. just use the slow mo ability when cornering.

>>713953646 (OP)
Is there seriously not a modern racing game out there thats as good as Gran Turismo 3 and Gran Turismo 4? I just want a nice Career mode where I start off with a piece of shit car, but gradually grind money and progress to higher tier cars and tracks. How are game designers this retarded

>>713953646 (OP)
>skill based
>no nitro
>no rubber banding
>no trendy soundtrack
>kino tracks and locations
I definitely remember.

>>713953646 (OP)
>this voluntary feature ruined racing games!
allow me to translate:
>i'm retarded

>>713953762
hot pursuit 2 is hard as fuck in the later parts of the career tree, at least the PS2 version. partly because the cops are already doing crazy shit with helicopter bombs and endless spike strips, but unlike most wanted later, you can't destroy the cops chasing you to get some breathing room

>>713954995
>GT4
>cool slides
You can barely get cars to slide in that game in the fucking dedicated rally courses, nevermind race cars on actual tarmac.

>>713953646 (OP)
>still no game that even comes close to Burnout 3
at this point I might have to do it myself

>>713956680
where the fuck is the announcer

>>713955938
GT7’s solid if you treat it like a Sunday drive sim. The handling is tight, the car list is good, and the cafe mode is comfy as hell. But man, the grind to afford anything past Group 3 makes me want to go back to GT4 and win a Spoons Civic just so I can sell it ten times over.

>>713953646 (OP)
I miss arcade racers.
like ACTUAL arcade racers, that you would find in actual arcades. shit like RUSH, cruisn', hyrdro thunder, ridge racer, daytona usa, california speed, etc.

>>713959995
Probably due to patent issues

>>713955160
you can still emulate and beat it now, it's really not that hard

>>713954846
lmao

>lookin at racing games to buy during summer sale
>this thread comes up
anons I need your strongest racing game rec

>>713963847
new star GP, flatout 2

>>713961203
I got interested in racing games thanks to picrel and was super bummed out every modern racing game is uber-realism sims while Fzero-likes have been left to the wayside

>Unlock final car in Hot Pursuit 2
>It's just a coupe version of the 360

Bullshit.

>>713953646 (OP)
The lack of good music is such a bizarre one. More than ever there are hundreds of thousands of fantastic artists and producers on Bandcamp and Soundcloud who would kill to get their tracks into a video game or any form of wider media.

>>713963847
CarX Street

>>713955160
wow youre pretty bad dude, I beat it on release as a kid and beat it again this year. not saying I 100%'d it but it's not that hard.

>>713962792
Can't they just do what some games do with guns (aka not-AK47, not-glock etc) and make fake cars?

>>713963847
Redout 2

I really enjoy NfS Payback.
Even the RNG tuning slot machine. I have 25 hours so far.
I like the drift mechanics that work with the brakes instead of the handbrake. Feels intuitive.
The story is fun too, like a F&F movie.

>>713963847
Fast Fusion on Switch 2

>>713964308
What I mean is patenting the career mode. Japanese games tend to patent their game systems or features

>>713953646 (OP)
they didn't need to polish the graphics so much, so they had to put more effort on better tracks and difficulty balancing

>>713953646 (OP)
Lazy devs: license trendy music
Sega: "Bitch, please. We MAKE music."

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmIKq72z7cfVkAYNnXJeGubnD16WgIiOl
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrjjNeyo1xgh_MQzbHKEf87l3b5ER3dYi
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_BhbJAAueZRGIUQiJttJc7Sl7OjThLIP
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP8_sGncyT5Qi3wddF-Nkh2tMpwh_M2PW
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKvFxXIPCnPFXrPhdGlgmpwe6yP9_D2H8

>>713955160
The fun part is it is easier than midnight club II. The hardest MC game is the release build of LA which had its difficulty tuned as if you had mastered the last 3 games so they nerfed it in the first patch lmao.

>>713956680
At 60fps in the blue car you should be lapping at under a minute on the long track if you got skills. Webm from the bonus 60fps mode that came on the extra disc for RR4.

BRING BACK DRUM AND BASS IN RACING VIDYA. I will also accept techno.

>Want to play Forza Horizon 3 because it's basically the only game set in my country
>Can't be bought any more
Why is Microsoft like this?

>>713967274
All racing games with real cars are like that.
That's why the best games use analogues of real cars.

>>713967014
LA and 2 are my favorites though I never finished LA because of the bad PS3 port, the game becomes unplayable the moment you get a fast car in a highway.

this is the best racing game of all time - 3 was also very fucking good

>>713964754
That game looks like a HD texture pack for wipeout fusion.

I blame burnout paradise. Fucking trainwreck killed the entire genre

Should i expend my hard earned 6 bucks on hot pursuit remastered for steam or it's a crap remake and i should just be emulating the ps2 game?

>>713953646 (OP)
The amount of people who whine about that race in mafia 1 made it crystal clear that everyone who hates modern racing games is a total shitter.

>>713953646 (OP)
Picrel is still a good series. It's a shame that NFS was pozzed though.

>>713969026
Paradise proved that gamers have 83IQ at most.

As far as I am concerned there is only one hot pursuit game.

>>713969220
only Forza horizon is a good series tho, motorsport is dogshit now

>>713969681
>bing bing arcade player gets filtered
many such cases

>>713967191
I remember that bonus disc, man. Booting it up felt like unlocking a secret arcade machine in your living room. Blue Solvalou at 60fps was straight-up butter - you'd feel every drift like it was a rhythm game. Nobody talks enough about how R4 nailed both the vibe and the tight controls. If you couldn't sub-minute on Phantomile Speedway, you were still on training wheels.

>>713953646 (OP)
>arcade slop was good
You can turn off the rewind you know

>>713967596
>repetitive races
>insane rubberbanding
very, very overrated but still decently fun.

>>713969923
hey I tried :(

>>713968767
This "texture pack" is all you have now. Thanks to Sony, Psygnosis / Studio Liverpool is dead. Just like Wipeout.

>>713960620
It could be done but its hardly working as intended.
The second you lose traction its like they push the clutch in half way, you cant powerslide. You basically have to use the cars momentum alone to drift.
gt3 had actual physics so you could open the throttle while sliding and do donuts.
what gt4 did well was the number of tracks and the massive library of cars. shit what other game had a lotus carlton?

>>713953646 (OP)
What's a good racing game if I want to have fun, go fast in loud vroom cars, look at beautiful vistas and listen to heart-pounding or funky music? Like flying down the coast listening to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmemLWA3c3Q

>>713953762
fpbp, probably the easiest nfs game

>>713963847
You can't handle my racing game recs. They're too strong for you.

>>713971143
Have you heard of our lord and saviour, ballisticNG?

>>713954171
nfsu2 dodge neon

>>713954995
I'm an Enthusia Professional Racing Chad so I wouldn't know about that

>>713960620
skill issue

NFS Heat is good

I 'member

>>713954171
you can kind of do that in Wreckfest and BeamNG career

>>713973617
BeamNG doesn't have career mode

Oh I remember.
People who hate on Burnout Paradise have literal skill issue. Kill yourselves if you have no sense of navigation.

Road Rash was my favorite. Phenomenal feeling of speed on the final levels.

>>713967274

>>713969220
Froza is a pozzed shit, no penalty hitting other racers and automatic drive options.

>>713953646 (OP)
Don't like racing games but image looks comfy for some reason.

>>713977340
The game before is the comfiest racing game ever made.

>>713953646 (OP)
Racing games will never be good again so long as they keep adding "assists", it's genuinely insane that almost every modern racing game allows you to play without touching your controller.

>>713954846
We need a tendie holocaust.

>>713977435
Need for Speeds and Burnouts were always full of assists... They have understeer and oversteer protection, brakes that don't lock, automatic gears, sometimes I fucking swear there's even invisible magnet rails that steer your car in Burnout.

>>713960434
>you can't destroy the cops chasing you
Yeah you can if they hit traffic or obstacles hard enough

>>713971192
The main problem is the primitive tyre model resulting in really sudden changes in grip, namely the front will always regain grip way too fast while you're countersteering, resulting in your car suddenly changing direction and sending you into the nearest wall. I don't understand why they introduced D1GP cars to the game, you can't drift unless you do major setup fuckery
>>713973186
Notice how you had to correct mid corner at 0:09, that's the extent of drifting you can achieve in GT4, if you had kept countersteering you'd have spun out in the opposite direction
>>713969220
FH5 is a disgrace, as is any FH after 2

>>713954171
I just keep replaying NFS Prostreet to get my fix

>>713973527
Also had better LA than in GTA 5

>>713973683
It literally does

>>713971985
Wipeout

Racing is the best game genre, publishers just feel the need to hide its power by releasing slop in the modern age.

>>713954212
only played arcade racers, ridge racer, NFSU2 and Burnout Revenge. Working my way through the Sega Rally games, on 2 rn, has been a joy, hoping I dont hit a road block where these games dont become too sluggish and simlike to enjoy. see RRV..

what are some good car games for people who know nothing about the cars?

Not much of a racing game player but I've been playing a lot of picrel recently. Enjoying it a lot.

>>713963847
Tokyo Xtreme Racers

GT90 my beloved.

>>713953646 (OP)
I remember when VIDEO GAMES were good, yeah.

>>713971985
The last time they made a game like that was drive club, I don't really count FH as a racing game since the races are shit.

>>713985089
me too

>>713982274
Gran turismo
>>713962215
Initial D and Wangan Midnight are still very much alive

>>713971985
NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 is right up your alley, if you can bear brake-to-drift, a very barebones open world (in the sense that there's nothing for you to do but cruise, the map is frankly amazing with lots of cool and diverse vistas) and it being more of a Burnout than a NFS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8sDr4PefZI&pp=ygUSbmZzIGhwIDIwMTAgdHVyYm8g

>>713954212
How's EA WRC in your opinion? Is it worth a pirate at least?

>>713977435
>>713977574
Tbf, GT and F1 cars have traction control, ABS, paddle shifters, and more, doe

>>713982274
If you want to learn about the cars, just play Gran Turismo. It's basically a virtual car museum with a game attached to it.

>>713953646 (OP)
>Still the undisputed king of racing sims after 20 years of slop
Sad

>>713989319
As a sim, definitely not. In terms of sheer content, though? Yes

Remember when racing games had top tier atmosphere?

Forza Horizon was the last good series and they completely fucked it beyond repair.

>>713991563
Yes.

>>713983512
>27
Where's the fucking sale?

>>713954212
That looks pretty good, when I look up this game I see a bunch of people whining about the team management aspect. Is it really that bad?

>>713953943
At first i hated the fucking music, then it grew on me and felt like home after hours of dicking around swapping out gear and doing time trials. Some times i would turn the music off and sometimes i would lounge around with it on.
>>713953646 (OP)
That is neither San Francisco Rush or Ridge Racer, who even the fuck are you.

>>713989319
>engine a foot away from your head
i have yet to experience it.

>>713996158
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>deep breath, clunk
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>713977791
my life is a fucking lie what the hell

I try to avoid using Rewind features but they're hard to ignore.

>>713969220
It has some bad aspects but overall I enjoyed it very much. I liked 4 much more though, it felt less annoying and Scotland > Mexico

>>713964694
I couldn't get into this at all, I got some hours out of Heat but the abysmal cop rubberbanding put me off for good. Also, it doesn't help that those games feel rather cheap when compared to Forza or GT, did EA's football money finally run out?

>>713969473
atlantica sexo

“Sorry chud” used to be cool and ironic

https://youtu.be/H8ykFTMVA74?si=I0Mo26jQGacydkWQ

>>713953646 (OP)
racing games like anything else, went to shit after gen 6

>>714002740
ACKSHUALLY it is aquatica - the time of day is the hint.

>>713953943
Impressive how an opinion can go so downhill so quickly.

>>714003391
i am ashamed and will turn in my boomer license

>>713988727
Definitely worth a pirate. I saw many games like that with shitty reviews, gave them a go and they sometimes clicked with me.
But be warned, just like almost every other official WRC game before that, it suffers from some stutter here and there. I literally had that in WRC games since WRC 3. Went through 4 different PC's since then, went back to old games, and they still perform like shit.
>>713995605
>Is it really that bad?
Its really not that bad but I play the game in short bursts so maybe that is why it doesnt bother me or I dont notice it much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgLAjh-fT_U

microtransactions have been a disaster for racing games

>>713953646 (OP)
nice pick of a game

>>713964275
i did 100% it last year and it was not that ahrd at all. i also 100% l.a remix which you should play if you liked mnc3 dub edition

>love racing games
>hate driving in real life

anyone else? I like driving my little scooter around but I always had problems when driving cars.

>>714009252
Nah, i love driving my car. I wish i was a millionarie, i would have docens of cars.

What are you playing, /v/?

>>713954846
I love the early 2000s racing games but MKW is easily the best kart racer ever made.

>>714009252
>hate driving in real life
This only means you aren't suicidal. Car driving by randoms should be forbidden by law, only trains, buses and taxis allowed.

>>714009412
Rage racer.

He's coming back and he's saving racing with him.

I was playing LEGO Racers last week. Does anyone use a racing wheel, pedals & gear-stick set up while playing older titles? Is there any support for that on PCSX2 or Dolphin or something?

The split into either ultra casual kart racing and ultra realistic autism racers and withering of everything else outside these 2 categories killed the genre.

>>714007164
My idea for a Daytona USA fusion game would have DLC.

Just putting it out there.

Aaand that's all, folks

>>714011537
megalolz

>>713953646 (OP)
I wasted hours of my life on this and F-zero gx

>>713953646 (OP)
I attribute it to fatass syndrome. Roads become wider, straighter and flatter, so racing starts to suck. Old NFS tracks are less racetracks and more rollercoasters.

>>713953646 (OP)
>remember when racing games were good
>posts the bad port
the irony

>>713967240
Lucky for you gen z has been discovering amen and breaks but they're retarded and branding it as breakcore

>>714009252
You might just hate driving in the city, which most people do. Go try out a track day, you might enjoy racing.

>>713968346
PGR4 is more content complete and prettier, but I go back to PGR3 because you can buy whatever car you want with cash and use it whenever without being cucked because the sequel gate keeps you for no reason

>>714013076
what causes this?

What's a modern racing game that feels close to PGR?

>>714014039
When you design every game world as if it is montana.

>>714013959
>go try out driving in a completely controlled environment that doesn't get you anywhere
it's not really much of an option unless you wanna go pro

>>713973768
Nobody said Burnout Paradise was too difficult, it's a snooze fest and a regression. Should I mention it pushed open world slop and opened pandora's box for padded slop like collecting billboards

>>714013076
pretty sure the old nfs games were inspired by vancouver, canada where the games were made and the surrounding areas. lots of coastal windy roller coaster roads. Pretty sure the brits and nords made them now, so thats why they're certified slop and lost their sovl.

>>713953646 (OP)
I started Forza Motorsport a couple days ago and it might have the worst racing AI in all of history and that's not an exaggeration.
The AI is completely incapable of passing. The car behind you will always brake and give you at least 3 car lengths of lead. It's completely insane
and then if you turn up the difficulty, the front 3 racers will just start ignoring physics and put up literal impossible lap times for their car and class. but the rest of the field? nah they are still slow and shit.
but get in front of the leader and he'll slow down for you too. It's mindblowingly shit. like it wasn't even fucking tested

>>714014305
well, thats because its made by microsoft jeets

>makes the best ridge racer
>doesn't let you race in it
>refuses to elaborate

Still play this

Why do /v/tards cry about difficulty in racing games, but don't touch racing sims where the only way to get better is to autistically practice a single track with a single car for tens of hours.
Not only that, every single person you race will be on the same track and in the same car. There is no meta. You MUST drive better than your opponents.

So what IS the best bang for my buck getting into more sim-like racers? GT2 A-Spec mod? GT3? 4? 5? Forza? I loved Colin MacRae's Rally titles in my recent PSX racing game binge, if that helps at all.

drifting ruined racing games

>>714013831
>but they're retarded and branding it as breakcore
Every few generations, someone discovers something that already existed and just names it something else. Fucking retarded zoomer WHY I OUGHTA!!!
Btw Rush Rally 3 is surprisingly fun while also lightweight for your system, and its not too hard to play either. And its not too autistic with driving. Its definitely more arcadey than a sim.

https://youtu.be/vgwaJp_z_KU

>>714016409
you gotta be more specific about how sim you want to go and what kind of Motorsports you like.
I think Dirt Rally 2 is excellent but that's only if you want to do rally and nothing else. Forza is probably the worst "simcade" racer on the market but it certainly has the most cars if that's what you care about.
ACC is getting closer to sim racecraft and I hear it's playable on a gamepad but probably still not ideal

>>714016267
>Why do /v/tards cry about difficulty in racing games, but don't touch racing sims
People that complain about extreme rubberbanding in arcadey racers are definitely not the same ones that would autistically play racing sims that you mentioned.

>>714013831
>chill breakcore mix to relax to
>breakcore
>chill
zoomers are comedians

>>714017907
I wish I could be more specific but I have not played anything so I don't know what I want yet. I just know I've recently burned through stuff like F-Zero, Wipeout, Jet Moto, Hydro Thunder, Pod Racer, then started to lean closer to more grounded stuff and really enjoyed Colin MacRae 2. I have fond memories of like, NFSU2 when I was a kid? I just don't know where to begin with simcade stuff because its overwhelming.

I guess I might as well just go down the list and start with GT2.

>>714008314
???

Are you...praising that version of NFS Hot Pursuit 2? It's okay but clearly inferior.

>>714018351
Yeah GT games are probably a good start. Lots of people seem to be into the F1 games and I can't tell if they are actually good or if it's just the popularity of the sport, but if you have any interest in F1 maybe look at those. For as real as it is, F1 cars are the closest thing to Wipeout and F Zero that really exists. You drive those cars unlike any other real car. It kinda does feel arcadey at times because of that

So was Tokyo Xtreme Racer actually good or just another FOTM?

>>714018985
it's a pretty small game with a limited scope so you'll see everything in not much time, but I had fun
sucks major dick there's no cockpit cam though

>>714018985
Good, but early access. How do you expect someone to play a demo this much for half a year

>>714014305
Sometimes the higher difficuly AI will just end up punting you out of the track or spin you out without a single fuck. Or they will do very late braking and use you as a brake while you try not to lock your own brakes up.

>>714018985
I hated it. The handling is super floaty

>>714018007
Sim players also tune their car so the playing field is never as even as other anon thinks which reveals they are a tourist.

>>714018985
It's good and soulful

>>713955160
Once you get a top-tier exotic, the game becomes piss easy.

>>714018985
its not finished yet

Let me know when wreckfest 2 has actual content.

>>714020646
Go tune your care in the MX-5 Cup in iRacing anon
Did you even get out of rookie license?

I played Initial D: Street Stage for the PSP last year and it was genuinely one of the most fun games i have played in the past few years. The combination of:

-sixth gen graphics
-touge racing
-high difficulty
-kino eurobeat songs
-Japanese voice acting during the races

couldn't be more soulful. I had 10x more fun with it than MK World, Forza Horizon, Gran Turismo, etc.

DRIVE ALL NIIIGHT
NEVER WANNA GIVE IIIN

>>713956680
>but I don't think I can hit it well enough on the controller.
RR1 was never meant to be played with a controller (unless you had a steering wheel).
The PSOne port didn't even has analog support outside of a gimmicky controller that sold like shit.

>>714024836
>(unless you had a steering wheel).
necgon

>>713953646 (OP)
play ballisticNG

>>714026293
Not until 9/11 and enai are back.

>>714024836
>The PSOne port didn't even has analog support outside of a gimmicky controller that sold like shit.
Because the PS1 port was a launch title and released before Sony even HAD an analog controller. Namco's own Negcon was the first one on the system to have it and their systems were used by later games to support both it and racing wheels that often used the Negcon protocol rather than the Dual Analog.

>>714026293
I have over 50 hours in it already. Good game, extremely faithful to PS WipEout, to the point where I actually wish it had more unique shit going for it.

>>714026565
>enai
>returning to BNG

Back before spring he said he was working on a car combat game. Also 9/11 was never removed, it's just some new people don't have any custom tracks so the server just sticks to the official ones.

>>713956680
I can beat most races in RR on PSX but on the arcade I lose even the beginner track
I will go and try again on Tuesday

>>713953646 (OP)
I miss burnout 3 takedown so much bros... (or rather continuations of newer sequels and developing tech/mechanics)

Anybody get Assetto Corsa EVO? I've been trying it out. It's... okay.

burnout 1 is better than the sequels but you have to be white to understand

can someone tell me which racing games have the most AI racers at a time

>>714029130
F-Zero X and GX, probably. 30 car grids at 60fps.

>>714029232
i was thinking of trying GX since i havent played any of the games, and im tired of wipeout. i just got finished playing road trip adventure which has 24-car races so its a bit novel to me for now.

>>714020893
Not even, just buy a good class B car and upgrade that shit. It'll get you close to the end in no time.

>see thread
>remember the only promising arcade racer of the last +10 years
>last update
>may 2024
grim era

>>714029339
GX is good. IIRC some of the TOCA games have 20+ cars as well, and the first Grid usually has a dozen or 16 cars on the grid (heh) in later races. Also multi class racing with 20+ cars but that doesn't really count since it's at Le Mans and they all disappear after the first corner.

>>714029130
The old destruction derby games for PS1 had up to 20 cars in a race, I was curious what a modern gen demolition derby game might have and was surprised to see wreckfest 2 still only has a 24 car limit. I'm surprised no one has made a 100 car derby royale game or some shit like that.

>>713953646 (OP)
I miss Fzero GX, but Fzero99 is amazing if people still played it.

>>714029896
it's a solo project, give it some time.

>>714029339
Both GX and X are the best racing games on their respective systems. I cannot fathom why Nintendo has done nothing with this series for the last 20 years. If you like Wipeout, you'll like those games. Both are pretty easy to emulate too.

>>714030732
they got shown up by sega for GX and said fuck it to series and just move what stuff they had in mario kart.

>remembered that the local arcade had these full motion initial d cabinets
>decided to pay them a visit
>they are gone
rip
the arcade is there and most of the things i remember are there too, but that one is gone
though they also disabled the motion on the outrun cabinet, the one with ferrari asses, so they probably couldn't afford to maintain it

>>714030967
this one
now i wonder why it has f50 and dino, but not testarossa
not even the big one with 4 cars has a testarossa, it's f360 and 512bb there

>>714016409
rFactor
Toca race Driver 3 (probably the best if you still want the middle ground)
ACC
Race 07
Raceroom racing experience
Dirt rally

love this game

any of you niggas played Trackmania?

>>714032368
i played it like 10 years ago cause i'd see people post those webms here of the clips with hundreds of cars driving the same track and falling all over the place but i couldnt figure out the actual game. that replay feature is cool though.

>>713964630
The most retarded career mode of the all time.
Yeah bro, heres 200 missions on the same track. New content? Nah heres another 300 missions on a track you played before.

Anyone in this thread try SRB2Kart?

>>714032368
is fun if you have a brother or some other relative the same age as you or smth
otherwise it gets old fast
trackmania 2 is better for single player IMHO but it gets too frustrating at about half way (I guess) so it's the opposite
I loved STUNTS (the dos game) though, probably the only game I could play for hours just jerking stuff around, without feeling like I was wasting my time (maybe NFS Hot Pursuit from 2010 comes close:)
good times
>>713988367
HP2010 excellent game alright, once you got the hang of it you just go flat out and tap handbrake to drift (for some cars letting off the gas also works but it's overall slower)
I've seen some people diddle xml files and stuff to make new races (start, finish, weather, opponents?) but haven't really looked into it
the only drawback of the game, apart from the relatively low number of 'missions' (races... I mean 1 race with each car type? cmon could have used a career mode...) is the lack of more detailed (and persistent) race statistics

>>714031446
So, I've got the GT2 A-Spec mod running with the widescreen and LOD hacks to spruce it up a smidge and I am enjoying it a ton. The dad rock surprised me. Idk why but I was expecting an almost nondescript, ambient or synth heavy soundtrack. ACC is Assetto Corsa, right? Is Evo good or should I stick to Competizione? Gonna try Dirt Rally. Tons of anons across a bunch of threads have recommended it now. Hoping it gives me the same vibe as Colin MacRae - its my gold standard now. I had a ton of fun with it.

How is Project Cars?

If you like F-zero, Play XF extreme formula or just listen to the OST, i love how the final lap gets its own unique part of the song https://youtu.be/Z5ndgEWTAgg?si=e_ry8EY8_Qs8rXXl

>>713953646 (OP)
>and it's over
Theres usually a restart button retard

>>713960434
Ps2 version they straight shoot missles at you

>>713953646 (OP)
>Make mistakes and it’s over no rewind
try the original NFS High Stakes
>Make mistakes and it’s over no rewind, and you also lost your AA car you had to grind for 3 hours

>>713953646 (OP)
I think the decline of the genre is less from the vidya industry and more that manufacturers are killing off their performance models and trims and just going all in on crossover slop and EVs

Just look at Jaguar for sake

So all you have left is 20 variations of the same lambo and Ferrari

>>713967014
>>713955160
I want to do a no special abilities run but im not sure i have the patience and sanity for that as ZONE was my lifeline a lot of times

>>714036176
Truly the stakes were high

>>713955938
I like it to but hated the fucking online aspect
That being said, I heard they did update GT sport so it could be played offline. Is that true? Pretty good sign that devs aren't complete morons.

>>713953646 (OP)
>when racing games were good
I can't remember something that never happened.

>>714037313
>That being said, I heard they did update GT sport so it could be played offline
>Is that true?
If it was, it would make no difference to me seeing as how you still need an internet connection to download the update. I've just accepted the last proper GT is on PS3.

>>714035038
>ACC is Assetto Corsa, right? Is Evo good or should I stick to Competizione?
I haven't tried Evo, but I don't like early access games, so Competizione is better for now

>>713953646 (OP)
NOBODY remembers this.

>>714039676
I played the first 4x4EVO on the Dreamcast. It looked so drab. It's like they heard people complaining that Quake was too brown, and set out to outdo it in brown-ness.

>>714036151
>later NFS games also have police helicopters with missle pods on them
>they never use the pods

>>714031218
Never seen one of these. How does it even work? If two players share the same moving platform?

The game was a real banger, tho. Loved it in the arcades and also bought it for PC.

>>713962215
We still get the occasional home release of arcade titles or indie titles that are inspired by the classic arcade titles, but they tend to fly completely under the radar because everyone wants simshit now.

Yeah, it was great paying $50 for Ridge Racer to find out it had ONE FUCKEN LEVEL that unlocked paths along the way. Those were the days.

>>714019232
I was playing Grid earlier and it's like that. AI cars very very slightly touching you from behind will send you into an unrecoverable spin, while if you try to full speed ram an AI car they won't even budge, like they're stuck on rails.

>>714045308
... and now I can relive the horror on Switch for $15... until the price goes back up after the sale.

>>713978159
He didn't ask if you played garbage

>>713953646 (OP)
>real challenge back then
Replay them, they're ridiculously easy compared to anything now but they're still way better

>>714014039
we need to go WIDER

>>714030517
It really just goes to show how dead the game is when you can jump into a GP seconds after it opens and there are maybe tops five or six real people waiting.

>>713953646 (OP)
You'd have a point if you posted the superior PS2 version of the game, which is the only good one.

>>714028939
no, I have a trillion (pirated) tracks and cars in assetto corsa, maybe in 10 years

>>714029130
daytona usa has 40 cars in the oval

>>713973527
What's this game please?

>>714029896
he is probably posting updates behind a patreon

>>714036406
jaguar deeply regretted it though

>>713953646 (OP)
You say that but wont buy Tokyo Xtreme Racer.

>>714047682
I'll think about it when it's actually done.

>>713953646 (OP)
>Midnight Club 2, 3, LA
>RalliSport Challenge 2
>Gran Turismo
>Ridge Racer Type 4
>NFS Hot Pursuit, Most Wanted, Underground
>Tokyo Xtreme Racer
>Sonic ASRT
>CTR Nitro Fueled

I'd kill for racing games to be as popular as shooters and MOBAs. I can't stand Forza Horizon, and TrackMania track design is designed by schizophrenics.

>>714046807
the entirety of real monaco could fit in that hairpin

>>714027449
The unique system is a fleshed out pitching/gliding system rather than the relatively primitive ones in every Wipeout title. Pitching even influences turn radius and rate, a well designed track that forces you to use pitching to a large degree is often one of the most fun tracks to play.

>>713953943
GT2 is the GOAT, yes
my problem with GT3 and GT4 are the reverse tracks, they make no sense and shouldn't exist at all, but other than that they're pretty good games too

>>713967596
NFSU1 is so much better than NFSU2 it's unreal

What is the perfect lap or race length?

>>714051321
3 minutes 30 seconds cumulative

>>713953646 (OP)
Creativity wise, that was the golden age of gaming. The fact they could make game like def jam fight for NY be good is proof of that. Although gaming technologically advanced Creativity and passion slowly went away as corporate shareholders, focus groups and political ideology became king.

>>714027449
the unique thing about it is all the mod content, like 90% of the content is in mods

https://youtu.be/KsfzDAfvJoo?si=uHklcMNge7b63CFp

>>714047335
Midnight club LA.

>>714053817
>not aquila 303

This game has more grinding than the entire tony hawk series.

BallisticNG is the absolute pinnacle of the genre. Too bad I'm terminally shit at it.

>>714054873
I just wish the physics were more wipeout 2097 than wip3out.

Speaking of ballisticng I realised my oldest webms that i've made are of that game - this dates from september 2016 I also got the game when it was free

I know it's a bit of a headache but my summer car has some of the best driving I've felt in a long time

For me it is the wombat typhoon.

>>713953646 (OP)
Why are modern racing games such slop? You start the game, and it instantly gives you some 500 horsepower beast after 5 minutes. Zoomers will never understand the grind of racing a shitty stock Corolla and failing, then trying to scrounge up 50 bucks for a new transmission. Thats why no one at Fortune 500 companies like hiring zoomies. You gotta understand the grind. When my son grows up, hes not playing these instant gratification games on his phone.

>>713953646 (OP)
Forza5 made every racingslop obsolete

>>714029130
Nascar games have had full 40-43 car field since the 90s

>>714024437
>McQueen, Hicks, and Weathers are allowed to have color-matching wheels
>meanwhile NASCAR games from the 2000s let you paint everything but the wheels
I don't get it. Is it some dumb mandate from NASCAR itself that stopped EA from implementing them?

>>713953646 (OP)
>>713953943
I click in this thread and of course the first thing I see is GT2 praise. The game you can beat in two fucking races lol.

>>714055849
Nobody cares about game grind anymore, unc.
If you want to grind, there's real life to grind.
That said, I do agree you should start with a slower car, so you don’t just hit a wall and complain that new racing games are simshit slop

luv the 959

>>714051321
depends how nice the scenery is e.g. Seacrest Tour in NFSHP2010 takes between 10 and 20 minutes depending on skill and it's majestic
IRL that would be something like the Nurburgring or Spa-Francorchamps
on the other hand you have tracks like the Zeltweg, Silverstone, or Circuit Gilles Villeneuve which are all tiny but insanely fast (lap times between 1 and 2 minutes depending on car)

>>714016267
>There is no meta
lol

lmao even

The old IndyCar in iRacing went the fastest by having its ride height completely backwards to what should work because it only checked for bottoming along the center line of the car so you just got more downforce by the right sidepod going into the ground, something that because of the way other cars are displayed you would never ever figure out without 9000 hours of aimless trial and error or being lucky enough to download a meta setup, and because of the fixed setup series still having the ability to raise and lower the right rear corner still affected all races. This is to say nothing of even funnier exploits like driving in circles before doing a qualifying lap because of some goofy shit where the physics were slightly different depending how many turns in each direction you'd done, driving on the grass to cool tires, having a car in a higher class push you on the straights or give you an otherwise impossible draft, brake dragging at 5mph on outlaps, back when people would take 100 points in off tracks and demote a license during a race to go faster because the game didn't and doesn't police them properly, or the new one this year where people were gridding with rain tires then going to the pit lane to switch to dries because you could set up the car a way that would be illegal if you gridded with dry tires.

>>714051321
3 minutes a lap and 3-4 laps.

>>714057952
This is bullshit made up my arcade babbies trying to sound like they know what they are on about. If you actually played any sim worth its salt you'd know pure skill is all that matters and meta is not a real thing.

>>714016267
Oh yeah and specifically because the MX-5 is an H-pattern car there was an exploit based on an H-pattern controller not being a physical transmission linkage and the way iRacing chose to implement shifting so it basically interprets moving the controller to the next gear as a persistent shift attempt where you would pre-select gears then dip the clutch to shift instantly that I doubt they ever fixed.

>>713955160
If you think 3 is hard, you haven't played LA

>terrible rally machine irl
>god machine in game
Okay it isn't the 205 turbo but the seat is available from the start.

>>714058278
howhardcanitbe9

For me it's

Ridge Racer R4 and the PSP games
Burnout 3 and Revenge
Lego Racer 1 and 2
Wipeout HD
Need for Speed Underground

Are there any modern arcade racing games that lean in to realism where opponents don't "cheat". Like getting boosts when you're first or getting slowed down when you're last?

>>714057201
The island tours in test drive unlimited 1 + 2 can take an hour. I honestly feel like TDU 1+2 went too far on the size of their game worlds as while the maintain a reasonably realistic scale turns out driving across relatively flat roads for miles upon miles is kinda boring. It is something classic NFS did well with its track design - long enough to feel like it is at a realistic sort of pace (as in you aren't blasting around corners at 180mph like you might in SCUD race) but diverse enough in style and layout to be engaging without fatigue.

>>714058583
Wreckfest's hardest AI settings disables rubberbanding that is present at lower difficulties.

>>714058396
So hard it got nerfed and it's still fucking hard. I think the high speeds and heavy traffic make it tough. I remember 100% finishing 3 and it wasn't that difficult

RIP Bizzare always loved PGR and Geometry Wars

>>714058664
I beat LA before it got patched because I was a day one player and binged the game as a big fan of the series. I was shocked to be beating the tutorial race by less than a second.

>>713989283
Personally I like GT3 better but probablyl cause that's the one I used to nolife with my dad
>>714058668
Looks fun, might give that a whirl when I finish Burnout

>>714058886
quoted the wrong post lol

>>713955160
MC3 has dynamic difficulty. Every time you lose a race or reset it becomes a little easier.

>>713953943
GT4 was the best one of them all. It had the most stylish user interface, best campaign, most content, basically a perfect game. The peak. Everything that came after was a sidegrade or downgrade in some aspect.

>>713953646 (OP)
Burnout 3, Revenge, Outrun 2 and Cruis'n Usa/World/Exotica.

That's all i need.

Stunt GP! PC version, not the meh PS2 port.

I feel vanishing point is a little unsung. Doesn't help that the PSX version is a bit rougher than the DC version.

>>713953646 (OP)

Trust nobody, not even the dodge viper srt/10.

>>714058619
thanks, I forgot about that game
when I get bored of Against the Storm maybe I'll give it a gander

>>713989319
>>713954183
having milked that oval track to upgrade my car I could still not make the required time on a certain track
then I discovered that setting the differential has a great impact on how much you can accelerate out of the corner
still ragequit after diddling the differential and other settings still couldn't give me the proper track time
probably the only racing game that gave me insight on what happens in racing IRL

>>713953646 (OP)
i still can't believe, maps in iii, iv and kinda porshe were the best, day / night different weathers etc.
WHY "DEVS" CANNOT REPLICATE FUN MAPS WITH SOUL

Ridge racer 8 never ever

>>713953646 (OP)
All you need is a modded copy of most wanted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BKVJmqpuys

>>714066056
yup

>>713953646 (OP)
Project gotham racing for the xbox is the only racing game I'll ever need

>>714064579
Are there any indie games with the NFSSE aesthetic?

>>714066414
None that I know of which is sad. Given how the indie dev scene is going we might see classic NFS clones within the next 3-5 years IF someone is a racist.

90's arcade racer never ever too

>>714063887
>kinda porshe
porsche was funny because the tracks got worse and worse (more sloppy) as you progressed
like schwartzwald, autobahn, alps
shit I just realized they were all situated in germany

>>713953646 (OP)
remember when is the lowest form of conversation

>>713995605
The team management put me off it, much preferred Dirt Rally 2.0

>>714067403
>porsche was funny because the tracks got worse and worse (more sloppy) as you progressed

>>713994562
Game? Hot pursuit 1?

>>714036406
This. No one's producing good cars anymore. Safety and emissions bullshit means everyone is manufacturing the same underpowered jellybean-shaped high bumper mom-mobile crossover or ugly as shit EV. Nothing has any style or power anymore and the few super/hypercars that are coming out now are track only.

>>713953646 (OP)
Rewind probably came to be because getting a mistake will make someone hit restart anyway

>>714068509
Didn't 2nd hand car prices got fucked and zoomers aren't buying a 2011 honda fit for $9k

>>714058583
That's called rubberbanding and it's basically in every racing game ever made.

>>714044342
Two players in the same car- you pay one coin and swap when you crash
Two players in two cars- you pay two coins and race against each other

>>714051321

>>713953646 (OP)
Open world has killed racing games for me. I want varied curated tracks, not same-ish homogenized cityscapes with bullshit padding like freeroaming / collectibles.

HP2010 looks nice but holy shit is it a frustrating pain in the ass to play. Every single car understeers to a ridiculous degree and feels like a boat. I'm also not a fan of the progression system where you'll be unlocking cars in tiers one or two below where you are in the career mode so you never really get an opportunity to use them unless you backtrack or free drive. I know it's partially a skill issue, but it's not really enjoyable to have to perfectly drift basically every single corner.

>>714066056
wtf,that looks so good and actually challenging

I've been playing old school rally, picked it up in the steam sale. It has a v-rally vibe with some excellent stage designs, but sometimes finicky handling. Some cars seem to drift easily, but ironically cars with higher handling stats tend to turn too sharply and cut the drift short. It's made with a bucketful of love though and has a pumping ost. Still EA atm and could do with some optional online Vs/tourney features to give it some lasting power.

Racing games are fun until you learn how to drive a real (manual^tm) car, and then they become shit because you would rather have a real steering wheel, pedals, and shift box but you don't feel like spending $1k+ on a racing rig, so you never actually ever play those games ever again.

>>714069676
no?

Anything good in the Steam sales?

Hotshot Racing seems like a decent throwback arcade game but I feel like the characters jabbering on and on all race repeating the same five lines would get old really fast.

>>714069676
I'm europoor and we all drive manual here. I usually play automatic with a controller / or use my old force pro, I enjoy both. You're not special for driving manual in a country that pushes auto, when most of the world drive manual.

>>714068342
NFS 4. This is hot pursuit.

>>714070203
Hotshot racing suffers from a lot of design choices made when it was called something else and more combat focused - it is why the tracks are wiiiiiiiiide.

>>713969220
the problem with horizon is that the festival atmosphere got absolutely demolished in each successive game
it was peak soul in FH1, good in FH2, mediocre in FH3, and by FH4 it was just a hollow shell
haven't played FH5 but I expect that to just be the same as FH4 where's it just a backdrop that barely matters

>>714070553
East European / Southern (= poor) Italian detected.

>>714068701
What price hasnt been fucked in the past decade or two?

>>714065853
>Toy cars racing in toy-themed track
>Alternate routes and shortcuts
>Stage hazards
Peak soul. What game?

>>714071562
Re-Volt. DO NOT buy it on steam.
https://re-volt.io/downloads/game

>>714072065
Thanks for the fast reply based anon. Downloading now.

>>714071000
FH5 is amazing - you get a hype man insert random spanish words into english sentences because he is a real mexican and bah gawd you will never forget this.

>>714070648
man that looks great, like how Horizon Chase 2 should have looked like
I loved Horizon Chase Turbo, but Horizon Chase 2 is just the original game plus more breadsticks lol

why don't modern devs make arcade bike games? it's always anti-grav or cars

>>714071562
check out Airfix Dogfighters while you're at it :D

>>714072358
Because unless you're Mario Kart and just make bikes cars but narrow, bikes are really hard to get right. I've yet to see a bike racing game that actually has proper body controls, which is wack because we've had dual analog controllers for quarter of a century.

>>714072352
I like hotshot for what it is but the a.i is so easily abused even on the hardest difficulties once you spot the pattern the absurd rubberbanding stops being a challenge as long as you maintain a decent pace in a race. Winning every time becomes ez modo.

>>713963995
The issue with making another game as good as F-Zero or Wipeout is that its hard as fuck, it cant be too fast or too slow, it cant have wonky physics otherwise you ruin the gameplay severely because these games punish bumps and crashes severely enough as is, and you cant make combat or handling too overpowered or underpowered because then you just end up with bootleg Episode 1 Pod racer, and the game has to have content (an issue plaguing 90% of anti gravity racers)
The only things you need to make a good racing sim nowadays is:
>having good grafix
>having physics that dont feel bizarre
>not fucking up force feedback

>>714070648
it also suffers from ass physics

>>713963995
Huh, I've never noticed that butt bunny is also a dullahan. Neat.

>>713995247
The sale is that the devs will likely change the price on the full release.
>>714015380
This game would have been goated if it had way more free flow drift events like the canyon ones, and more canyon stuff in general, Palmond is kinda boring to race on outside of Darius's territories, specially Kempton thats almost entirely flat and has too many straights because "muh muscle car territory". Having tier 1 and 2s being gatekept from having better performance is also stupid, it makes it so the game forces you to get the first tier 3 you can get your hands on after unlocking Silverton because otherwise the Corvettes and Murcis gap you like nothing else in this world.
>>714016409
Not a sim but Racing Lagoon is real nice if you want to keep the PSX binge going, it lets you drive *anything* using any kind of upgrades, you can make a Camaro with a quad turbo 3 rotor engine, a Mini with a 7L V8 from a Corvette, an Skyline with a souped up inline 3 with like 2 superchargers and 4 turbos, anything you want, the game lets you make it

>used to agonize over my car design
NOBODY remembers this game

I got Drive Beyond Horizons demo. Is the full game as bad? There are no vehicle physics.

>>714073913
I only know it exists because I was trawling abandonware for old pc racing games. I looked at some footage of this and decided it was not worth my time.

>>713968346
can this be emulated?

>>713968346
>we're in an era of remakes and remasters
>racing games get left out because re-licensing cars and music is bureaucratic hell
>some games are impossible to re-release completely because the manufacturers literally don't exist anymore
grim

>>713953943
I still think GT2 is the most fun

Why did racing games just vanish? They were a staple all the way up to 8th gen, and then... poof. Gone.

>>714077528
I'll fucking take not-NFS full of not-lambos, not-porsches and the like.

Zoomers and normalfags destroyed the genre because they only care about muh heckin realism or literal tranny kart shit

>>713960102
Nfshp2 has rubber banding out the ass, though?

>>714077913
Racing games were always a comparatively cheap way to showcase graphics, so console publishers pushed for them. When graphics peaked, racing games went away. Notice how Nintendo bowed out of racing games a gen early because Wii was an overclocked Gamecube.
>>714078316
You can do that if you are an indie, you can tenatively do that if you are a big guy but don't have prior material to work with or that material has not-Lambos in the first place (for example Square Enix can probably go remake Racing Lagoon), you can't re-release Most Wanted and say "well Toyota didn't want to renew the license but hey, look at these Toyomatsus, they are totally different!".

>>713969843
Motorsport can’t decide what it wants to be. The fidelity isn’t there for sim players, and it’s too boring for casual players.
Oh and the tire model is ass.

>>713954846
If I was a camel you were dying of thirst in the desert, I’d walk on by.

>>714077913
autists invented speedrunning and turned every game into a shitty racing game

If I've only played NFS Most Wanted back in the day and loved it, what game should I play today?

Racing games are dead because they only put nigger music in the new ones. You can't convince me otherwise.

>>714079435
nfs most wanted

>>714079435
idk underground

>>714077913
there's not really a lot of ways to improve and differentiate on the core gameplay, and manufacturers are fags with bigger and bigger stipulations to put their cars in

>>714079860
interesting vinyl

>>714079435
play through all the ricer-era need for speeds, starting from underground

>>714080029
Dunno what you mean anon, it is of the popular metal band lost prophets.

>>714079440
Why would I? You're right. Even the mid 2000s had some hip hop and rap music but it was mixed in with plenty of other types of music. People still talk about Most Wanted's music. Nowadays it's bottom of the barrel coon tunes exclusively.

>>713953943
Absolute retard, GT4 was the pinnacle of the series, SPECII even better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjW-9eTerfM

Also: mellow sonic's NFS OST remixes are amazing.

>>713978159
Mein negga! Prostreet rules, Shift 2 as well

>>714080382
Apparently noob's handling mod dramatically improves the game, though i've not tested it.

https://nfsmods.xyz/mod/6557

>>714079912
You could say the same thing about sports games, but they still get made.

Why do some of you prefer the non-PS2 versions of NFS Hot Pursuit 2?

>>713954846
I wanted to give new DK a chance, but then he dabbed

>>714079440
Not even that, it's not all nigger music and there is good nigger music, they just put shit stuff in.
Look at how Sony massacred Wipeout Omega's soundtrack. Sony has a fucking music label, they could assemble the best goddamn soundtrack humans have ever heard, but instead they scraped the bottom and dumped it onto a franchise that's so deeply intertwined with its music that just a few years prior they dragged composers out of retirement for 2048's OST. Preposterous.

I'm still salty motorstorm died.

>>714080619
>Faster and more precise steering
>No snap oversteer at high speeds
>Roads are %10 grippier
garbage mod

>>714058125
Then why was Team Redline DQ'd for the 24H of Nurburgring this year?

>>714081682
>cheaters get disqualified
how could this possibly happen!?

>>714016267
Yeah, I can't believe people get filtered by sim racing, even though the whole point of the game is just driving smoothly. Like how pulling down your mouse is praised in FPS games, but smoothly pushing your analog stick left or right and gently releasing it is seen as a bad thing in racing games?

>>714082598
If I git gud at sim racing i'll become a real race driver
If I git gud at paintball i'll become a real navy seal
if I git gud at world of warcraft i'll become a real wizard

>>714083003
considering the number of 40+ year olds still playing wow, sounds about right

>>714083258
*40-year old virgins specifically

>>713953646 (OP)

>>714036151
They're bombs

I'm gonna say it

Burnout Revenge is better than Takedown. A common talking point I see people make is that "traffic doesn't matter in Revenge" when this doesn't follow any sound logic beyond the tonal whiplash of Traffic Attack which is the first event you play in the game. In terms of dangerous traffic such as oncoming, and the trucks and buses on the with traffic, the obstacle density is identical to 3. The only thing that changed was the smaller vehicles being far more numerous on the with traffic side to facilitate traffic checking.

>>714083654
Keep playing. Youll see them turn around and shoot missles and they act like flashbangs

>>714069313
Driving wise, it's a Burnout game but with heavier steering, you basically need to yank it into a drift and then once you're snapped into the Burnout rail you can massage the drift angle with ease. If you are reacting late and really need to make the turn, use the handbrake as a panic button.

>>714070203
>>714070648
I remember playing this a long time ago, could not beat the AI no matter how hard I tried, then I tried a different car and I managed to do it. Cool game but the AI rubber bands like no tomorrow.

>>714083654
Damn, I wish that back then more and more racing games had speedometers in the middle when using the bumper cam. It's literally almost the equivalent of a crosshair in an FPS game so why did only a few racing games do this?

>>713953646 (OP)

>>714084713
The trick is to save your boost for the last straight and let it rip - the a.i takes a moment to engage in rubberbanding which is longer than the time it takes to dump all the boost and win.

Any good cart racers released recently for PC?
Tried that nickelodeon racer 3 or whatever it is called and it was fucking terrible game.

>>714085242
I remember that's what I ended up doing to clear the game. The initial problem was I wasn't using the most optimal car to even catch up in the first place.

>>714080737

I just discovered GT4 for the first time and could someone explain how did this blatant skip got into game? From what I heard the third game was pretty brutal when it comes to difficulty. did they decide that fuck it, people are supposed to curate the level of challenge they want?

Like, at this point I might a well use cheats to get infinite money just to save a bit of time because the progression is completely busted.

>>714082598
desu its more that sims just dont play very well without dedicated hardware and they all have the same tracks

What are some fun racing/driving games for someone who is shit at those kinda game?

>>714087863
Wreckfest. I have not tried Wreckfest 2, but dive bombing into the lead car is too fun.

>>714086119
Are you outing yourself as a graphics whore?

>>714085557
Recently? No. Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed is still the best. There will be a new sonic cart racing game be released this year but pricing is wack.

1 day old thread and I shouldn't be contributing to it at this point. But while I hate modern gaming, I do actually like gran Turismo 7.. I think 3 career mode was better, but 7s is good enough, and they've done a fine job adding more cars and updating the game..lots of tracks, and it feels good to race. Looking forward to gt8 in 2035

>>714089134
I meant gt4 not 3

>>714087595
>sims just dont play very well without dedicated hardware
True, but if people enjoy playing FPS games using a controller, I don't see that being a big deal. In fact, controllers are still quite good for things like trail braking or rev matching. Of course, people with a wheel have more of an advantage just like those using mouse and keyboard
>they all same tracks
What do you mean? Most of these kinds of games usually have more than 20 tracks, including original tracks

>>714088451
correct car proportions have fuck all to do with graphics retard

>mfw modern anons are born a little too slow

>>714086690
Every GT before 4 had this. You are in control of the buttons you press.

>>714086690
Play Spec II if you want a better balanced experience

>>714088560
that sucks. guess ill wait for it to be discounted i guess

>>713953646 (OP)
i love this game in particular, i cant find anything else that will make me not always say it's my favorite

>>714093568
Oh, that looks like something. Will I have to start from scratch? The progress doesn't migrate?

>I tried to play JDM and sucked cocks at it
>spending an hour at the school did not help
Drifting is just not for me.

>>714086119
>Monaro as told to canadians over the phone
>Vs an actual Monaro
The PC version of HP2 was the superior version and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.

>>714069676
A and Z are all you need for gear shifts

>>713953646 (OP)
Remember when your parents drove you everywhere and you hated it back then because you wanted to be home playing video games or watching cartoons? I bet you look back on that fondly now and wish you can have that feeling again

>>714089568
Most sims (GT7 and FM8 aren't sims) don't use fictional tracks.

>>714093665
Spec II uses the online public beta version of the game, starting over is required, yes

>>714095190
>sad that no racing game managed to capture that comfy winter night feeling
>remembered that My Winter Car is in development
soon

It's impressive how Codemasters got the formula right and then made the executive decision to make every sequel slightly worse than the previous.

wicked

>>714095190
>>714085183
>even saved the original filenames
nice

>>714007038
>tfw me and my neighbor with autism would relentlessly play this and lego island

Hang in there Tom I hope you found a job in Engineering or some shit.

>>713954171
My summer car

>>714097090
isn't there a 4chanx extension that does that?

>>714045954
It's only garbage if you abuse repair markers and entering races with "light" damage.

>>713953646 (OP)
nfs the run was good

>>714097295
I use jdownloader2 to download images in thread, it does it automatically

>>714073913
Found it in the thrift store couple of years after it was out and had a blast. Not a stellar game by any means but goddamnit designing your own car was FUN.

>>714097295
there's a download button next to the image, anon. If not enable it in your settings

>>713953646 (OP)
Is Need for Speed Underground 2 as good as they say?

>>714078949
>The fidelity isn’t there for sim players, and it’s too boring for casual players.
Worst kind of simcade: gamey physics on real world tracks. Should be the other way around.

>>714097848
INTO THIS HOUSE WE'RE BORN

>>714079037
what if i was a camel too

>>713953646 (OP)
I remember playing World Rally Championship on my ps2 demo disk. I never got the full game but played the shit out of the demo

>>714086690
Who cares?

Hometown.... Home....

>>714097848

>>714098112
You, apparently.

>>713969473
>>713953646 (OP)
thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsfzDAfvJoo&list=RDKsfzDAfvJoo&start_radio=1

>>714097848
The Black Box NFS games are overrated. Hairpin turns with shit drifting physics, constant "gotcha" traps in the course design a hard requirement to make one of your cars look fucking retarded to advance in the career mode, and a bunch of unlockable cars that aren't even worth using over your starter vehicle.

>>713953646 (OP)
Be honest, did it filter you?

>>714097848
The atmosphere is really good the game feels more glamorous and alive, and it provides tuning options so you can design your cars to match your play style.
The downside is that all that tuning doesn’t really matter, since you can wall ride just fine

>>714097848
>>714098747
Oh and their soundtracks are shit. Early 00's club Rap and Nu-Metal are gay

>>714098747
>>714098876
it's a fishing pole

>>714098747
>constant "gotcha" traps
Oh so i am not the only one that bothered with this

>>714098747
Persona started at 3, and Need for Speed ended at Hight Stakes

>>714098975
It's shit taste. In a sea of post Fast and the Furious street racing games the most established series somehow had some of the worst. The actual licensed Fast and the Furious game was better than that trash.

>>714099014
Couple that with the fact most obstacles in the game completely kill your moment if you just graze them at the wrong angle. Like literally dead stop sometimes. You don't even bounce off guard rails half the time.

>>714099597
*momentum

>>714097848
no

Want to see some occult tech? That's v rally on GBA
https://youtu.be/p2ZgzEXPVA4

>>714098131
>wide
NYET the negcon is kinda shit in the game - stick to analog or even dpad over it

>>714100195
this is wrong

>>714098780
>not having a mem card preloaded with saves
ngmi

>>714100320
First person cockpit view in a 3d full textured racing game on GBA. Real 3d not those locked camera with pre-loaded background. You can turn around and race in reverse. And it has a lot of variety with tracks.
It's not getting enough praises. And it was made by two french.

>>714100195
That is some black magic. In comparison:

>>713963847
dirty rally 2.0

>>714039676
been waiting for 4x4evo3
and wating...
only snowrunner barley scratches it

>>714098857
>since you can wall ride just fine
if you wallride, you're maximum gay
like, hard f faggot in y2k when lgbt was still ostracised

>>714100195
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0f83wODqg
Top Gear Rally was also pretty neat

>>714097909
I hate that every modern racing game is into photoscanning irl tracks. the best gt tracks are the originals and all the photoscanned ones are boring as shit

>>714102086
H A M M O N D

>>713963847
pirate NFS Most wanted

>>714100195
The GBA really makes you appreciate the PS1 and Saturn's lack of major audio limitations.

>>713969220
maybe if the next one has soul unlike 5

>>714100775
>>714100881
>>714101214
>>714101290
>projected headlights

Please never play max power racing
pls

Any good driving games with alive multiplayer?

>>714102198
All of those great original Gran Turismo tracks came from GT4 and earlier, mostly GT3 and earlier and have generally been made worse and worse since if they were brought back.

>>714102902
what's wrong with projected headlights?

>>713954171
No just download Gran Turismo 4 on steam deck.

>>714095190
>>714097090
Kino, despite the 996.
>>714096346
Fucking this. If Grid 2 had longer races and better AI than Racedriver: Grid it would've been literally perfect.
As for me I've basically given up on arcadey racers and switched over to playing ACC when I want to sim it up and RVGL when I want arcadey combat racing.

>>713953646 (OP)
What are some fun ones to just drive around in, not just racing?

>>714105276
TDU

>>714098780
it did filter me

>>714103324
It is just cranking the gamma and blowing out the textures.

>>714104353
>SV
>white
pig disgusting

>>713953646 (OP)
I remember back when EA good and this was my favorite racing game
>that soundtrack
>the racing locales ( even included the ones from NFS III on PC)
>the video tour showcase of cars
everything about it was soulful

>>714106481
good enough
better than gaytracing

>>713953646 (OP)
>real challenge
no
>had good music
yes
>Make mistakes and it’s over no rewind
several modern games also don't have it.

>>714109618
orrrrrrrrrr use the vertex headlights

>>713953943
The first GT was incredible but nobody mentions it :(

>>714110159
Because GT2 is just GT1 but better in every conceivable way.

>>714103265
and? they're still leagues above the photoscanned shit

WRC Rally Evolved. The random hazards appearing on track (opponent's car breaking down, random cars parked on the road, rock slide, animals cross the road, and that small chance for the first Australian rally stage to have a wildfire causing the other 2 stages to be burned and ashy) made the game amazing.

Boomer thread

>>714106554
I was trying to evoke something, Anon.
https://youtu.be/t3v8p6FDNX8?si=1vfviVbKwfec4xm0

>>713953646 (OP)
I aged out of NFS and gran turismo went to shit unfortunately.

>>714111067
The answer remains pig disgusting.

>>713953646 (OP)
Has anyone tried CarX Street on PC? Am I right in realizing the game does not support wheel buttons to navigate through the game like on a Logitech G923? There is no settings for it and it's not recognized automatically.

>>714029896
His last update on Patreon was 10 days ago, he's got like 5 new cars in the works with full customization for each. Let him cook.