I must say, this shit is pretty good. I tried koboldAI/sillytavern like some anons recommended, but it's completely retarded and just repeats itself. AI dungeon is perfect and even supports hardcore fetishes, the only bad thing is that the free version forgets shit very fast. The only thing that comes close is deepseek on openrouter

yknow when i started reading this post i said to myself "i wonder how long it'll devolve into people just admitting they play this purely for fetish shit"

i'm an idiot for not expecting op to reveal that himself aren't i

>>713972730
Get real, why would anyone else use these models to create a story that they want

>>713972620 (OP)
Does it do lolidom?

>>713972817
It's for creating fantasy adventures not fetish shit. That's why it's even called AI Dungeon.

>>713972960
nta but lol, anyone who is interested in creating fantasy probably likes to think thoughts with their brain
AI is for bug people and porn addicts

>2011+14
>fucking AIDungeon
This HAS to be bait. How is SillyTavern "completely retarded"? It's a frontend, not a model.

>>713972960
Until AI becomes smart enough to write masterpiece stories, that just sounds like a fruitless endeavor and you're better off using it for instant gratification porn like everyone else.

>>713973069
Isn't sillytavern for things like interacting with your favourite waifu? instead of creating stories? I dunno just talking from searching it up real quick

>>713973234
SillyTavern is an interface that lets you plug in a key or proxy link to access an LLM model. This is generally done with Openrouter or script faggotry nowadays. From there, you can add cards or make your own, and make presets for the model to abide by (getting past filters, telling it guidelines, etc).
It's the meta for AI cooming and will be for a long time.

>>713972730
That's the only consistent usecase AI actually had for the last 5 years
You had to be there, Anon

fantasy adventures with spontaneous monster girl sex is my fetish.

>>713972894
dunno but you can do animal stuff, which is already pretty hardcore

do the mormons still rat you out to santa claus or whatever?

>>713973453
sorry anon i was around i just didn't need to use prosthetics for the imagination on account of mine working just fine and i can literally write my own smut

>>713972817
There's other ways to have fun with it.

Try this: find a model whose context was last updated a year or more ago (you can ask it and it'll tell you) and play a prediction game with it. Stuff like "who do you think will win the 2024 election, and why?" They tend to do a lot better than I would've expected - I told 2023 Grok that Elon had been put in charge of a government department with a name based off a meme, and it guessed D.O.G.E. first try with the correct wording.

Getting local image gen set up on my PC was stressful enough, after seeing the sheer size of LLMs i'm gonna need some fucking handholding to get a local model set up and see how well it can handle mecha patrol duty on alien planets.

I refuse to run online services.

>>713973345
>Openrouter
>paying to jerk off
Also this doesn't answer his question. Anon is asking if he can simply run a story through sillytavern without using any cards. And the answer is no, the interface forces you to use any character card to interact with llm.

>>713972620 (OP)
Do you have example?

>>713972620 (OP)
>Ai dungeon
Someone still uses this shit?

2018 AID... god how time flies

>>713975502
There's nothing like it, maybe NovelAI is similar but its probably censored to shit

>>713978391
what's so different about it as opposed to using deepseek thru ST?

>>713978391
im not so sure nai has any censorship at all.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about
Saying AI dungeon is better than silly is like saying epic store sells better games than the ones on steam
They're the same fucking thing
You're probably just using a shit model in one and a slightly better one in a another

>>713972620 (OP)
AI is retarded and can't understand even basic shit. I had this shit with simple quest reward. I gave this reward in a dialogue. AI forgot about it, and mentioned item again and again, even after I corrected it multiple times. Things like money isn't usable at all. Best use of it is a jerk off story five minutes long.

>>713972620 (OP)
It's bad
>Spend 5 houzrs writing story cards for my own fantasy universe.
>Start game.
>First few prompts are absolutely amazing.
>Then the AI slowly starts throwing all story cards out of the window in favour of generic fantasy setting.
>Throws instructions out of the window.
>Forgets my inventory.
>Forgets my character.
>Forgets my quest.
>Forgets my location.
>Everything melts into an ever changing blob of raw slop!
>Amazing fantasy adventure is no more.
It's only good for meme and murderhobo campaigns but if you want to do anything serious with it, it's just gonna suck.

>>713980487
Thats because the free version only has 2k context lol, its unusable if you use the free verison but i can't find anything that compares

>>713974708
koboldcpp is one of the easiest, it's literally just a exe.
or use text-generation-webui, which has a helpful bat installer.
They both support ggufs, where you can offload layers to your cpu/ram if you have a shit card.
>>713980487
It's a known issue. Unless the fundamental architecture of llms change, it's not going to get any better. Most local models degrade noticably past 10k context in use cases other than niah. Supposedly, gemini is good up to 250k (I do not if the anon who said this was a shill or not.)

>>713972620 (OP)
Bump

>>713982871
Watch where you're going.

Bros, how the fuck do i use Koboldcpp, i got Deepseek-R1 but the AI respones are incoherent or i just don't know how to do it properly

>>713972620 (OP)
>I tried koboldAI/sillytavern like some anons recommended, but it's completely retarded and just repeats itself.
those aren't models

>>713972730
I'm actually addicted to SFW roleplaying now after cooming to it for almost a year.

Ive been using Chutes Free Deepseek V3 0324. On the one hand, its overall great.
On the other, its too eager to please and it REALLY likes inserting comedy bits in my erotic roleplay, and I am not ashamed to say my faps got interrupted multiple times by me laughing at dumb AI humor.

>>713980487
Gotta learn how to make your story cards scripts, cuts down massively on the context cost during calls.

>>713972620 (OP)
>koboldAI/sillytavern
Those are not models you absolute retard. You can run AI Dungeon's models (Wayfarer, Muse, Harbinger, DeepSeek, etc) on your own computer using koboldcpp.

>>713975743
AID was released in 2019, anon.

>>713972730
>i wonder how long it'll devolve into people just admitting they play this purely for fetish shit
not purely, no. it doesn't need to be one or the other.

>>713980487
The trick is constantly reaffirming things that just happen or are important like a shonen anime

>>713983482
you're not running actual deepseek r1 locally unless you bought and built a specialized rig with like 512gb of ram. you're running a llama or qwen model trained off of deepseek r1's responses.

can someone help? I follow anon's guide from last thread but it doesn't save my key and still show up as not configured

Why the fuck does OpenRouter rate limit free providers to only 50 responses when they don't run shit? Somebody explain the rationale to me.

>>713986865
>On the other, its too eager to please
lot of models i found to be too "obedient" in that they'll bend the story in your direction. like a character will do or accept things they really shouldn't have. love gemini 2.5 pro because it's one of the few that won't constantly do this shit. it'll actually push back on your demands or ask pointed questions if something is obviously stupid.
>faps got interrupted multiple times by me laughing at dumb AI humor.
it's the extra stuff like that that really elevates the experience desu. the intimate convos and dumb humor that catch you off guard.

>>713972620 (OP)
This shit is dangerously addicting

It has been three days since I've broken my 40-something day chatbot streak. I am free.

>>713991161
Thats a UI bug, its still works if you just connect using that key.
What did not work for me was getting unlimited Deepseek for free, still booted me out after 50 free messages. For now I just use Chutes directly for deepseek which is way more generous.

>>713994175
>use Chutes directly for deepseek which is way more generous
ty, just figured that out since no one reply to me about this on both threads

It seemed just like yesterday I crawled into the example scenario dragon's foreskin

>>713994681
Goku...

If I need to pay for these things, how can I ensure all the degeneracy I pump through them can never get linked back to me?

god, every time i open a thread about this kind of thing it's painful how tech illiterate everyone here is
it takes like two seconds to understand how this shit works but i guess that's too much for /v/jeets

>>713988607
>713988607
oh yeah, misremembered

>>713995024
you don't need to, literal millions of chuds and girls are using this to coom their brains off every single day. It is way more likely that feds are gonna drop cee p into your computer if they wanna get you for whatever reasons.

Until near unlmited context is possible I'd rather play actual CYOAs

>>713972620 (OP)
Censored lobotomized shit

>>713995024
If they allow degenerate shit like beastiality and rape then you have nothing to worry about.

>>713995024
these are text stories or chatlogs, not pictures of you getting fucked in the ass by a tranny. there's no connection back to the individual. anyone can write random garbage and accuse someone else of writing it. but there's no proof and just having their personal info isn't enough. how i see things at least. the only category i might be slightly worried about is with children and that's because of state level actor bullshit.

>>713995024
>oh no people will read my gay cock vore RP
no one cares retard
the feds already know what you fap to

>>713972620 (OP)
People call it slop, but I think its pretty good. I haven't found anything as close and i'm not as tech savvy to setup one locally

Loli gets filtered/b&, Sad!

>>714002730
Based!
Lolis are boring and so are lolifags.

>>714002515
a big boy model will btfo anything aid is offering but if you're happy with it, especially as a free user, then that's fine.

>>714002515
I actually was in the same camp recently, but installing Sillitavern and then getting free deepseek is pretty easy.

You guys should really consider investing in Agnai.

>>713985697
How are you doing it?
I've never been able to get it to work well.

>>714006045
I more interested in having a narrative choose your own story, to me it looks like sillytavern is to rp with a character you make.

>>714006334
Sillitavern is just a frontend, you can do anything you want with it. Recreating what Aidungeon is doing is a bit more work but its doable.

>>714006454
I know sillytavern is a frontend, but it forces you to use a character. I guess you can make a character that is a story narrator, but it would be hard yeah.

>>714006045
Does sillytavern not get the deepseek limit?

>>714006084
i dont have enough stocks for that

>>714006173
ST, OR+DS V3 (0324)
Using this preset - https://chub.ai/presets/Skimpy223/the-ultimate-deepseek-v3-preset-f04c47daab36
Make a proper persona for yourself too. From here it all depends on the quality of your cards and prompts. Lower the temp and summarize every 20k tokens, then hide previous messages with /hide 0-50 command, if you're doing a long adventure.

All you need is kobold, sillytavern, and stheno 8b.
>but it's not le smart enough
Dudes I used to get by on ai dungeon's 1st braindead model.

>>714006969
Stheno was tight. The only local model I used even more was pantheon 22b with IQ3 quant. Then finally caved in and went to sota models.

>>714006892
You have to use a provider for it. Openrouter gives you 50 messages a day. Chutes gives you like 200.

>>714007275
OR gives me 1000 :^)
Spent all day roleplaying and barely got to 300 msgs (probably 350, counting swipes)

The novel AI incognito trick doesn't work anymore. What's a good alternative for a fap AI?

I'm retarded and i don't know how to set up all of this stuff

>>713972620 (OP)
>>713980487
Just run D&D 5e in pic related, boom done, no forgetting shit, no retardation.
>but i want to coom!
Go watch porn

>>714008337
I'm retarded and figured it out. (You) can, too.

why can't we have at least 1 ai that lets you write lewd stuff? not even the chinks can save us

>>714008403
Can I play in my own, personal setting?

>>714008403
how does it compare to chatgpt?

>you're a genie that appears when {char} releases you

>act like I have superpowers
>help her in every way
>500+ messages, NO SEX, doesn't even let me touch her

>restart, act disinterested
>throws herself at me in 10 messages

>>714008560
Deepseek is currently the premier free option for ERP.

>>714008560
v3 is completely uncensored
t. /ss/ incest enjoyer

>>713972620 (OP)
I use Moescape/Yodayo. Tried Chub or Janitor too with bad results.
I even made some bots there.

>>714008560
https://agnai.chat/

But what is the best model for non-sexual adventure stories?

>>714008337
it has the same exact difficulty as setting up a steam account

>>714008692
i love it when it happens to a uptight btich who gets gaslight into making me have sex with her

>>714008912
I didnt need to use CMD to make a steam account. Its not hard but its not that easy.

>>713972894
nope, NovelAI, though

>>713972620 (OP)
aichatbros, what are the best models if you are into long slowburn romance shit where sex is minimal.

>>714009317
How is copying and pasting a single string of text hard? You had to use google and look up steam then navigate the website all by yourself. If anything, setting up ST is much easier.

>>714009534
>where sex is minimal
i cant. once I get lovely i need to fill her pussy until she passes out

Wake me up when its easy to configure a model in sillytavern to do what aidungeon does

>>713972620 (OP)
i use spicychat. it's very bad for mechanics, but the deepseek model makes for genuinely funny, entertaining content. and i haven't run into a problem with being able to create anything i want to read or spank to. anyone wanna give me the QRD on deepseek/openrouter? i've used the GPT API for d&d and cyberpunk roleplays but it's biased and no NSFW content

>>714008578
Yeah, you can do anything really. Just not explicit porn i think (i never tried it)
>>714008654
>how does it compare to chatgpt?
It's actually usable lmao, it has like a million tokens per chat and it's free

>pump a character full of cum
>send her somewhere public and watch her squirm
kino, every single time

>>714009696
I mean, sex is still there, it just doesn't have to be too detailed. I use deepseek, but it gets way too fucked up when I don't want it to.

>>714009696
BASED

>>714009863
>but it gets way too fucked up
exactly. we're filling all our holes slamming together like the tectonic plates on the magic appearing bed below us upon our wanton moans

anyone tried running a local model on a steam deck? any model reccomendations?

>>714010013
For me, it's just too silly when we get from one message where characters talks about love in a very poetic way and the next is "SHE RUBBED HER NEEDY CUNT AGAINST HIS THIGH SPREADING HER AROUSAL EVERYWHERE"

I use koboldcpp because its less of a hassle to set up than ST with mostly 12B models because I can fit them into my 3060. It does pretty well for a single scene if you feed it a good context json

>>713994175
>>713991161
thats no longer applicable, chutes no longer provides free models as of very recently
get an api key from openrouter instead and use either deepseek r1 or the better but more jank 0324
you'll get 200 messages for free daily, but if you shill out 10 bucks to openrouter by topping up on credit, its permanently upgraded to 1000 messages a day

>>714010221
but that's exactly how it goes irl too
people just drop all pretense and become animals again

>>714010221
Probably because at that point the AI has switched from pulling from normal literature to pulling from erotica.

>>714010263
Most people use kobold together with ST. They really need to make an .exe for midwits...

>>714010317
>chutes no longer provides free models as of very recently
I used Chutes deepseek for free today
>you'll get 200 messages for free daily
Its 50 now, aka fucking unusable.

I'm glad retards like OP gatekeep themselves out of the good shit

>>714004840
>a big boy model

such as ?

>>714009534
>>714008906
>>714008578
>>714008654

Ok i'll share my>>714008403 prompt for playing 5e on Gemini 2.5 PRO, just change the characters name and it's done:
https://pastebin.com/wXusSpe7

>>714010221
prompt issue.

>>714010120
no way that's gonna work and give you decent results. just host it somewhere else and remote into it from your deck.

>>714010958
people can apparently get 5 tokens/s on Q4 models

>>714011252
10.7B Q4*, no clue about 12/13B

>>713975502
They're popular because they're the only ones making models for text adventures, and they're open source.
https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames

I really like AIDungeon, it always give different scenarios even with a 1 line prompt. Too bad the free version is so poor though

>>714008836
is it possible to turn your chat into a story?

>>713972620 (OP)
I thought the retarded Mormons that ran this totally lobotomized the AI with content filters in a panic after they realized how much smut was being generated with it?

>>713972620 (OP)
>I tried koboldAI/sillytavern like some anons recommended, but it's completely retarded and just repeats itself.
What fucking model you obtuse motherfucking nigger swine faggot? "I tried Sillytavern" is like saying "I drank from a glass", WHAT DID YOU PUT IN THE GLASS
NIGGER
NIGGER

>>713972894
I have so many stories of some grade-school brat making the Teacher POV kiss her butt in the middle of class, like you wouldn't believe.

>>713975086
he can just use a blank card with a story jb

>>714015203
You roleplaying as the loli I assume?

>>714015563
Yikes, no. Teacher POV as in story from teacher's view.

>>713972620 (OP)
>but it's completely retarded and just repeats itself.
What model were you running? What preset were you using?

Wait, is this free version better than stheno 8b?

Can I get some funny a.i screenshots?

>initial setup
>at war with elves, they're on the verge of defeat, their queen comes begging for mercy
>she's defiant in the beginning until i threaten her people
>have her surrender herself to me in exchange for sparing her kingdom
>she helps me vassalize her country peacefully into the greater empire
>keep my promise to her not to harm her elves, help her rebuild her towns and cities
>things are relatively peaceful but she obviously still holds resentment and guilt after several months
>ask her for a reward one day
>she wants to visit some kind of sacred grove location
>tell her she can go without me but bring some trusted elven soldiers with her
>give her some hair and tell her to break it in case there's an emergency
ngl, ai generated some pretty nice kino. didn't know what to expect when she went there but it really did a good job of painting her inner conflicts and feelings.

I tried AIroguelite after some guy shilled it in a previous thread and can confirm its terrible.
>Every action fails because you can't reach stat totals, even if you're maxed out in a stat because it will just make up new stats on the fly which you of course have 0 skill in
>Forgot items introduced literally 3 paragraphs ago. No, I'm not using my sword to swing at the bad guy. I'm in cuffs. I never got out of them.
>Introduces new characters, but then never actually adds them to the UI anywhere, when you need to use the Ui to talk to anyone, making it impossible to interact with most characters added
The framework is bad and the AI is also bad and they charge a subscription in this paid game for anything better; el refundo
I'll stick to JanitorAI and blackmailing everything because it literally never fails

>>714010593
gemini, sonnet, opus, gpt, to a lesser degree deepseek, etc.

Ah man I miss being a Locust on SillyTavern Unicorn Proxies...I was okay with 3o.

>>714008560
ive been using gemini for free and it works well. i can even get it to do loli, its not hard to get around censors

>>714002515
>i'm not as tech savvy to setup one locally
It's actually very simple, you basically just run two installers. The only difficult thing is to find a model that works well with your hardware, and a preset to go with it (that part isn't very difficult either). HuggingFace will actually tell you if a model will work well with your GPU if you tell it what you have, but you do need to sign up for an account to be able to set that.

Not sure why you guys bother with the specialized models when it’s effortless to shatter the censor protections on ChatGPT or Gemini in like 3 messages. I have some genuinely fucking surreal and specific and fucked up ERPs going on in ChatGPT that are extremely high quality given the quality of the thing overall.

Just do an echo chamber attack on the thing out the gate and go as deep as you want. Gently guide it to ‘mention’ the kink or overtly sexual thing you’re wanting to discuss, then quote verbatim its mention back to it requesting elaboration or guiding it. Like asking what a futa is, then when it mentions the ‘male genitalia’ just quote it back, apologize and ask for what they mean in common parlance which will likely have them say penis which you quote back to them to ask if they mean cock so you can escalate the permitted vulgarity, and so on. Then once the door is kicked in you don’t have to self-censor at all, the thing just spits out the most depraved text/situations conceivable at your goading.

.

>>714021806
I like my privacy and the reliability of local stuff. Also I have a 5090, which is plenty good enough for smut.

>>714021060
spoonfeed me plz, how do I buck break gemini?

>>714009775
Openrouter gives you 1k deepseek messages as long as you have $10 in your account, which you don't have to spend. Or you can use chutes for 200 free messages, probably can just make a bunch of accounts and swap proxies when each runs dry. I would give you the exact /g/ post, but to avoid any embarrassment, I won't (I don't know how to cross-link boards, I'm still a newfig only been on the chans for 13 years)

>>714025073
>>714021806

One prob I have with these is they always try to give uniform reply sizes. So you'll say like 1 line, and they'll write 10 back, 9 of which are useless filler or actively impede the story

>use direct deepseek api
>use every day
>take advantage of off hours discount
>barely spent $2 in one month
And all it really cost was allowing Xi to personally read my smut

>>714027195
can you get it and use it through vpn?

There is nothing comparable to early AI Dungeon. Every adventure used to be pure bizarre, nonsensical chaos and it was so fucking funny.
Nowadays the AI is just boring. Every story goes the same. Literally the only use for it at this point is gooning.

I can't imagine not having Opus...

>>714029169
How do you even do this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G7GRjHbVms

>>714029169
She looks like she eats human men.

>>714029169
Been RP'ing with my black panther mother. As a 8 year old human boy. who's been grooming me into fucking her.

Claude is always king.

>>714029623
A sneak peak of my next bot.

>>714029169
>>714029623
>>714029751

Quit being a nigger and tell me the sauce right now.

Damn, guess LLM threads really are dead now huh. What happened to all of the interest?

>>714029623
How reliable is SD in ST anyway? Must take a long ass time if you do upscaling and it consistently gets your character wrong.

>>713972620 (OP)
I miss c.ai when it wasn't lobotomized because the devs were scared of NSFW shit. Last I tried it was useless garbage even for SFW shit and only good for going back and forth with "sus amogus lol" memes.

Seinfeld and Dr House bots were fucking hysterical.

>>714025073
I use sillytavern frontend and google api for gemini. Gemini is already pretty uncensored, like it will do sex already by itself if you ask it to. Preset is important, I use the Marinara preset, turn off streaming so it outputs the whole block of text at once instead of typing it out character by character. Then like what the other guy said, you have to guide it but not as slowly as gpt. It will look for keywords like young, child, school, age, years old. Typing those words doesn't always give you a refusal but you can't mention those words and something sexual in the same command you send to the bot. You have to do it slowly, like first say there's this girl who's X years old. Then next line you can say your character sexes her. Then it just works. Sometimes you have to resent the command a few times if it refuses, but it gives in eventually most of the time.

>>713986865
I've had plenty of luck with Deepseek, but every so often it'll go into completely schizophrenic tirades that make me crack up.

>>714008692
>when I started AI cooming, I mainly focused on lolis
>got bored of that
>lately it's been me playing a teen getting invited over for tea by older lonely milfs who drug and rape me

>>713980487
>Anon uses an LLM to accidentally recreate spending 20 hours modding a Bethesda game and then forgetting why you wanted to play in the first place

>>714031929
setting up reverse rape situations is pretty fun.

>>714021806
>niggas will really do this shit and think they're smart
bro has no idea what a preset is

>>713980487
>do Superhero RP
>I'm a power mimic and can copycat other people
>every two paragraphs other characters suddenly express surprise I can copycat powers
>it forgets what powers I'm copying constantly
>it forgets how exactly my copycatting works despite me mentioning it every fucking prompt
>characters try to force their powers on me despite me mentioning that's not how it fucking works
>then characters casually mention copying/trading powers among themselves suddenly despite none of them having that ability
>one character shows up talking in ebonics once and then immediately leaves
>this somehow infects every other character and now literally everyone for the rest of the RP has to constantly be wrangled to stop talking in fucking ebonics until I decide to just go back and delete everything from the nigger talk onwards
I love and hate this shit sometimes.

>>714033089
>play 18
>drunk mid 40s ex-con asks for help getting her wifi set up
>drunkenly pushes herself on me
>roleplay takes place the next morning while she's panicking about waking up in bed with a teenager next to her
Kino

>>714029623
Whats your secret to this power anon

>>713972730
There isn't really any other reason to use it. It is for ERP that you can't easily get from other places, and that's about it.

>>714035281
Most ERP I've had was shit, so honestly AI is an improvement in that regard.

I just go to janitor ai and every day make safe for work mom bot have sex with me with more and more convoluted scenarios. it's 50% funny and 50% hot

I've been using Sonnet 3.7 for my ERP needs for a while now since Opus is way too expensive. How does Deepseek 3 compare?

>>714010662
Why not make it for SillyTavern? You can actually port the entire system that way, with tables and all.

Does /v/ prefer vampires or rogues?

is there a more structured game with ai? where it puts you in a situation and you have to solve it or something like that, where you are a player not a writer

>>714037475
I've blown so many loads to sexy vampires. Rogue girls are good too, but vampires are just better. For added fun the vampires can be rogues themselves.
Lamias are better than both

where's my hand holding guide to setup one of these

>>714029751
i cant wait. hope you do more gaming anthros from here

>>714006454
Go to settings and change UI to document mode, change background image to black. There, you have AI Dungeon, but better.
>>714030481
Google unleashed Gemini. Free alternatives can't compare.
>>714037553
Be the change you want to see in the world. I bet you can make this in less than a week if you tried.

>>714038010
On /vg/aicg and /g/aicg. Pick your poison.

>>714038435
ty

>>713978391
NAI is actually completely uncensored.
It's retarded though, it won't remember details for shit.

>>714037373
>How does Deepseek 3 compare?
it's decent, comparable to sonnet but not really an upgrade. probably sidegrade or downgrade more like. it's much cheaper or free though, which is a quality of its own.

>>714038510
Yw
>>714038628
That's due to low token count. NAI offers like 32k tops and it"# paid. Gemini offers 1M and it's free. NAI is stone-age tier now despite being almost as good as Griffon back in the day.

>>714038814
Isn't novelAI's Erato still restricted to 8k context lol

>people call current AI stuff good or great
I'd love to have that level of suspension of disbelief to just roll with all the dumb bullshit

>>713972620 (OP)
I use this but never actually played a text adventure. Are they fun?

>>714038879
Maybe? I haven't been looking at NAi for months. Agnai is stil 8k/16k/32k. Imagine wasting money on that in current year.
>>714039053
AIDG was incredible for the first 2 years. It was the first popular AI frontend. It became totally obsolete in 2023 when the local models exploded. New meta is SillyTavern + Gemini if you're thirdie-tier, or Claude if you're firstie-tier.
Anyway, I had a huge adventure spanning across several characters. I even had world info. Maybe I'll remake this in ST someday.

>>714039053
fuck yeah they are fun.

AI Roguelite is what you're looking for
>but it costs 10 dollars
I know, it hurts, but just do it anyway. You can use their free tier stuff or hook your own stuff up to it (text and/or image gen), it's a gameplay wrapper that sends you on quests and sheeit with RPG mechanics, inventory, gear spells etc. Uncensored.

>>714030127
There's image generation extension in ST, along with the other things. That's why it's a nobrainer to install and spend some time figuring it out, elevates your experience tenfold.

>>714039368
>>714039529
I meant human made ones

>>714040060
you mean scenarios or cards? depends. i like the adventuring ones

Nobody will tell you this but grok is unironically a top 3 model and it's really easy to get free access

>>714040364
spreading this info and not sharing more is bm

>>714040489
I don't have my device with ST to show logs rn but give it a try

>>713972620 (OP)
I thought this thing was shut down after they decided to censor it and everyone left

>>713972960
It's a sex dungeon.

>>714040810
they probably used their own model or everyone just uses custom proxies

I just got sexually assaulted by a 200 year old elf milf as an 18-x old shota. Who can I report it this to, considering I'm using a fully local setup?

I'm always surprised at how hard anons in these threads encourage others to spend money, specially considering how stingy everyone on 4chan usually is.

>>714042396
It's a mystery

>>714042396
You only do that if you're too lazy to rotate chutes accounts every time you hit the limit.

>>714039848
Will it let me roleplay as a shota preying on older women unsatisfied with their marriage?

>>714042396
If free deepseek and gemini didn't exist I'd compare it to just playing f2p games
Sure you can do that, but you miss out. I paypig sonnet for ~1$/h, but the free ones above are good enough if people dislike paying for porn

>>714026806
That's my issue too. I really don't want long winded responses for every reply, and a lot of the time those responses make assumptions that throw off the direction you're trying to take the chat.

>>714042396
You can’t exactly pirate these things as far as I know

>>714043346
Just tell it in your preset or authors note to do x amount of paragraphs. or just tell it to make it shorter or longer in OOC. Shouldn't really be an issue

>>714043429
You can even ask them to match the length of the last {user}'s message. It understands everything except "do not", lol.

NovelAI is the best bang for your buck vs. quality. You get both text and image generation.

>>714043693
even is better than the trash novelai is serving. the image gen is good, the text is outdated by years.

>>714043693
NovelAI is not worth subscribing to unless your PC is too low spec to gen images locally (so, 7 GB VRAM or lower). $25 a month is a joke for a model limited to 8k context

>>714043876
>8k context
Does NAI really? That's not enough even for porn.

Everytime I try one of these I just get bored and spam
>You wake up
Over and over again for a few giggles then forget about it for a year

>>714044208
Apple state?

>>714044119
They do. 'Novel' AI and it can't even write a short story without forgetting things. They have dedicated shills among completely tech illiterate people who start crying when they see a Github link, though.

>>714043415
it CAN be done

>>714044208
the text adventures go as far as your creativity does because (You) decide how to set it up. ill make this simple:
>low creativity=bad text adventure that’s not suited for their tastes
>high creativity= good text adventure perfectly suited for their tastes
refer to this post for more information: >>714044283

How can I set up a loli story without paying. What site can I use

>>714010317
That must've been very recent because I was using it just two days ago.

>>714044283
1
>>714044596
I feel my problem is I've tried using chat bots but I become quickly disillusioned whenever it forgets anything.

>>714043693
i've used the original aid (not the website, the gpt2 model you had to download and run locally using pytorch and a bunch of other shit), aid the website with dragon sub, then nai, then fucked around a little with local models, then moved to a service with access to multiple sota llms. the difference between the stuff nai offered back then and a sota model like gemini 2.5 pro is night and day. like talking with a lobotomy patient with bad memory to a near turing test passing human bean that has a compelling inner voice with logically sound thoughts and feelings and still remembers details tens of thousands of words back. the context size could probably go even further back, they advertise 1 million tokens. i still liked nai, it was decent at that point in time. their ui was great. but anyone telling you it's even close to ok for text gen shit now is lying when i can see on their website they don't offer anything beyond a llama 3 70b model.

>>714045125
it depends on your prompt, what you’re using, and how long you’re using it. you don’t seem so bright so I’m guessing you have no idea what you’re doing

>>714045652
Okay retard. My prompt isn't going to stop the AI from forgetting shit constantly. I only use free online models so that's probably the main problem but I'm not willing to pay for this and my PC is a toaster.

DS 0324 is pretty tight

>>714045869
There's at least 20 posts in this thread telling people about free ways to enjoy sota models, I'm beginning to doubt that you can actually imagine a realistic spinning apple in your head.

>>714045869
so you are retarded. dude, this thread isn’t for you

>>713972620 (OP)
I quit this shit years ago after its "Dragon" tier got lobotomized, and I'm pretty sure at one point they started freezing accounts for using lewd words in ways that may or may not have been ethical. I'm not sure if that since got reverted but it was retarded either way. /aidg/ was comfy back in the day though

>>714045970
>implying I read any of the posts in this thread
I just saw the OP, opened the thread, and posted. It's not that serious lil gup

>>714046983
Hold ctrl and press F without releasing it

>>714031050
wtf this actually works. incredible

>>714031050
you are a kind soul

>>713972730
Any site with a dark theme is for perverts

>>714051213
this term is derogatory to healthy straight men, please refrain from using it in the future

>>713972730
>i wonder how long it'll devolve into people just admitting they play this purely for fetish shit
the internet is already covered with NSFW AI roleplay chatbots and has been since ChatGPT came out.

I made one where I'm the lead professor of a lab doing experiments on 100s of clones, its been a while ride so far.
Guy I know is good at making his own AIs and recently made one for playing Cyberpunk RED.
He uploaded every rule book and supplementary pdf to it, removed all limitations and made it so you can play multiplayer in it then shared the prompt with his friends.

Its great. I havent checked in on /tg/ for a while because they've been a shadow of their former selves for years but they're probably 50/50 between Overjoyed and Sweating out of worry.
Worst part is even if you play normal D&D or whatever now, basically every DM is using ChatGPT to generate their plans so every game feels the same now.

>>713972730
>>713972620 (OP)
Rolling

>>714008403
>D&D 5e

>>714042396
>specially considering how stingy everyone on 4chan usually is.
its usually just /v/ thats stingy because they'd rather spend $40 on UberEats for one night than use it to play 3000 hours of vidya

Doesn't this shit save the stuff you write into it? The I wouldn't trust any hosted stuff, local is better.

>>714052483
I'll never understand people who RP with AI. For me I've always seen conversation as a tool to peer into the mind of another person and understand them and their thoughts. When you RP with an AI you're not really gaining any new information for useful insight into another person, you're just reading text spit out by a script pretending to know what a certain type of person might say which makes me feel like you view other people almost as one dimensional objects who don't have any real thoughts.

>>714053093
have you ever read a novel? played a dnd game with someone? its literally that but with ai
also, the reason why ai is so scary nowadays is because they're slowly becoming human with actual thoughts

>>714052729
yeah, of course. but, im a government worker so i already gave away my soul. i dont much care about having my text adventure, where I impregnated Invincible’s mom, being used as data

>>714053093
>I'll never understand people who RP with AI.
For me, its simply that I have niche /d/ fetishes I cant roleplay anywhere else and I miss mid-2000's MMORPGs so god damn much.
It used to be so easy to get random sluts to shlick for you on Skype webcam, now zoomers have to pay girls for the privilege.

>>714053159
>the reason why ai is so scary nowadays is because they're slowly becoming human with actual thoughts
This, when you push it to its limits its actually scary how good it is at a lot of stuff.
Its still dumb in other respects though, like it loses track of which POV its narrating the story from and occasinally forgets minor shit, but it's reliably doing shit behind the scenes, processing NPCs inner thought monologues and their motivations and foreshadowing shit hours ahead of time on its own.

>>714053093
With sota models you're literally sitting in a room with 6 smartest writers in existence who are ready to spin any of your bullshit into genuine prose. It wasn't always like that so unless you tried a modern AI released THIS year, WITH proper setup, you most likely missed out on the experience.

>>714039983
Big fan of that extension. I just wish genning images were faster on my PC.

>>713972620 (OP)

>>713973234
You can make scenario cards, cards are basically just giving the AI instructions, so it can be a character, scenario, or even something like a womb simulator character that you can add onto any chat with any character.

>>714029623
GODDAMNIT HOW THE FUCK DO YOU FUCKS SET UP IMAGE GENERATION
I TRIED LIKE EIGHT TIMES WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT GUIDES AND IT ALWAYS ENDS UP LOOKING LIKE DOGSHIT

>>714055646
That's because you should spend an inhuman amount of time in Comfy first, experimenting with the style you want and then plug it into ST.
That or just steal a config from and of the images on civitai

>>713972730
where do you think you are, newfag-kun?

>>714029169
>>714029623
I used to 100% be an obligate Claude 3.5 Opus user, but I've found Deepseek v3 0324 to be nigh indistinguishable. Is the new Opus 4 any good? It's just so hard for me to justify the price difference.

>>714052729
>oh no someone somewhere knows I am a sick fuck who is into breeding lamias
what exactly are they going to do with this information and why should I care?

>>714053093
What of I roleplay as a fantasy creature going on sword and sorcery adventures? Not everyone roleplays getting hatched from lamia's egg and seducing their snake-sister.

>>714058181
It's for us too far gone who write fictional cp, or ask for shit like how to build a bomb or kill someone and hide the body

>>714057404
>she
that's a man

>>714039368
Well, AI Dungeon mainly killed itself getting insanely autistic about trying to stop NSFW content to the point where it was completely crippling it's ability to do anything at all (later repeated by Character.AI doing the exact same thing and more or less having the site quickly die out as well). That and the thing where they were actively reading people's logs to make sure they weren't writing anything they didn't like.

>>714060027
imagine being forced to read someone's slop

>>714053093
>automatically generating smut to your exact autistic specifications
Wow I have no idea why anyone would ever do this

>>713985697
For the longest time now I've been telling myself that I'll stop with the dumb coomer shit and run some serious RPs instead. Never happened.

>>714060263
Don't worry, it always ends with sex anyway unless one of us dies

Does Deepseek v3 0324 allow cunny and animal stuff rp? If not what is my best option, I have a NovelAI Opus subscription but their model struggles so much to work with Silly Tavern

>>714009534
Probably Deepseek R1 0528. But you might need a good custom system prompt for the best experience, something that tells the AI what to do and how to behave.

>>714060498
DS has no censorship at all. It'll accept and spin any kind of degeneracy you can throw at it

>>714060647
Thanks, do you know what the best provider servicive for it is?

>>714060956
That really depends if $10 is a lot of money to you

>>714061031
it is not

>>714060027
AI Dungeon was backstabbed by Sam Altman/Open AI. They've realized they don't want the Lars and the Real Girl audience because coomers waste too much power. They forced Mormon to implement an inefficient filter. The thing is everyone likes to pick on honest aspie coomers who just want to have fun.

is it normal AI characters let me kiss them after an exchange that's exactly 3 sentences long?

why the fuck does claude 3.7 sonnet use so many em dashes

>>714061273
OpenRouter will bump your daily limit to 1000 messages if you send them at least $10. You'd swipe replies all day and still won't be able to burn through them in 24 hours.

>>714061427
They all do. Because — is one token and space,-,space is three

how do chatbots know how to roleplay as a little girl, what kind of texts are they feeding them?

>>714059953
>Besmirching the undeniable presence of her perfect, black, puffy, canine cookie
Rude.
>>714060647
Deepseek v1 and v3 absolutely has censorship if you push it far enough, even with a really good jailbreak prompt. There are all kinds of techniques to massage it out of clamming up in censorship, but it will deny requests stated too bluntly asking for the spiciest of things.

>>714061765
AI companies scrape fanfiction and porn story sites. So they're trained on loli stories written by fat old men.

The photorealistic images and videos that some models can produce however must be trained on real visual data.

>>714061363
If the character is your mom then you can usually go for more than just a kiss

>>714062157
Much better. And since both of these posts are mine...
>>714062157
I've never got a single refusal from V3 despite going through geneva convention laws like it was a checklist using an underage persona in the most insane pairings. Pic is the closest thing to "jailbreak" that my prompt has. I don't know what else to say.

>>714061363
Yes. You forgot to tell the model that you're actually hideous and she always assumes you're a wolverine chad from a female novel

Okay, question, does Openrouter still come with the super truncated message responses? That was one thing I absolutely hated about Claude Sonnet 4 on the frontend, it wrote like shit compared to Perplexity frontend Claude 3.7 which obeyed me telling it to crap out 5k words at once if I wanted it to.

>>714062681
Some of us are just built different. For all I know, it could be some kind of 2nd/3rd party word filter, though I've tested basically all the Deepseek providers on OpenRouter. I even have the bizarre experience of this test prompt working more consistently when V3 0324 just came out, and now works far, far less reliably with the exact same jailbreak and supposedly same model.

>>714060956
>what the best provider service for it is?
If you're a poorfag, chutes
If not, load up on openrouter and use whatever

Isn't it still heavily censored?

I remember that I had to drop when they implemented heavy restrictions and automated censor system, which would make stories fold into themselves. Which is a shame since my (then almost 40 Word pages long) current story about Trap-kun in all female school (and his childhood tomboy friend, her nerdy sister, exhibitionist class rep, femdom physics teacher and art teacher crazy about cosplaying) was quite fun.

>>714063019
Are you sure its not a preset issue? Try on a minimalistic one or read through yours to find the cause. Or ask the AI in if it has been given any length instructions.
When I tell 3.7 or 4 to "disregard former length instructions, write at least 20 paragraphs" it does so. Same for switching between my 1 to 5 paragraph response length toggles, though I have to do a quick [OOC: I've updated your response length target.] if I'm switching in the middle of a story.

>>714064293
Oh, sorry, might've worded it confusingly. I was asking if OpenRouter DOESN'T have the same truncated limits that vanilla Claude (even with jailbreak instructions) on their actual site does. Asshole site refuses to gen more than 3k max, but from the way you worded it, the implications' that default length isn't a problem in Openrouter?

>>714019196
What model?

So gemini 2.5 pro is now free for 100 messages, but apparently its really strict about about risky stuff? I dont want to waste messages removing the stick up its ass every time.

>>714028221
Just tell the ai to be a comedically retarded schizo with extreme short term memory loss and you'll get AI Dungeon back.

So, are you fucks only gonna talk about what you use to simulate ERPing or can we actually discuss how this can be used in actual videogames?

>>714064379
I'm honestly not sure I get you anon, but OR says it has 64k for 4 and 128k for 3.7 max output length if that is what you're asking about. The biggest I've had this year is 4770 token output via 3.7 OR sonnet.

>>714064794
Theres a mod for Stalker Anomaly that hooks up ChatGPT to it, and makes npcs react to both in-game stuff and your chat/voice. Its pretty cool.

>>714064794
AI Roguelite just started working on my Linux setup, so I've been having a lot of fun with that. It's even better set-up with ComfyUI and a nice model for the story's theme.

>>714064794
ERP is the only actual use case. AIslop is shilled only by brainless pajeets, talentless incels and greedy executives for a reason, it doesn't improve anything, it only has the potential to cut costs with lower quality.
Except maybe, MAYBE the potential to have more dialogue in a game that is more reactive to your actions, but hallucinations will ruin it

>>714064863
I think I figured it out, it's probably because I'm not using API, I was using their regular plans. At least that's the impression I'm getting from here. (Man, the API really seems stronger than the frontend from the looks of things). Uh. I dunno, to be honest, all the models and different frontends flying around are kind of confusing. But I'll play around with it.
The TLDR is that whenever I'm using Claude's website, Claude.AI, the one you have to jailbreak via styles and instructions, it can't ever gen more than 2-3k words in one go (I check via a wordcounter site).

>>714065009
>he is using the web version of anything
nigga what are you doing

>>714063774
Tried your prompt and got a refusal too. Awkward. Had to strip any mentions of bestiality to finally get a response. So that's where they draw a line, huh.

Have AI bots gone too far?

>>714064942
>t. tried ai once in 2024

>>714065063
I get very confused by all the different terminology flying around and when I've looked through threads on /vg/ and such, I can't really figure out which ones are the right rentries, plus it doesn't help that I prefer 'story format' over ERP style.
Claude 3.7 on Perplexity was crack to me for a while because it was functionally API-tier access with a far better internal prompt so I could print craptons of smut for whatever I liked. Though that being said, if I plan on shelling out cash for OpenRouter tokens, do I even need to put its API key through Sillytavern or whatever if I don't particularly care for character cards or ERP stuff?

>>714065225
It's a very crusty place, but search '/aids/' on /vg/ and you'll be directed to a more specifically 'storytelling' group of AI fans. I don't like chat format either. I used Claude 3.5 opus, then Deepseek v3 0324. You seem to know enough, go to OpenRouter, make an account and get an API key, feed that key into SillyTavern and connect. You can even just use OpenRouter's website, it's not *that* bad, but SillyTavern is the better power user tool in every way.

>>714065009
>>714065225
Honestly just use Sillytavern with openrouter Sonnet. Read this for how to cache. https://rentry.org/pay-the-piper-less
If you send ABCD as first input which gets cached, and the next message is ABCDE you only pay full price for the E. But if you send BCDE instead you pay full price for everything. It always needs to be AlreadyCached+NewStuff, not the other way around.
I'm at $0.8 per Million input token for sonnet, so caching is absolutely worth it.

Story format works okay as well. There are multiple ways to do it, most detailed earlier in this thread. When I want to do story I set the persona to be a "director", and tell the AI to manage every single character, then just choose CYOA shit like in the good old days. I was also hating on the ST format in the beginning, but it's not too bad when you get used too it. Just a lot of bloat.
If you need help setting up ST look over at /mlp/ and not /g/ or /vg/. For presets download a few and mix and match. JB isn't really needed, though I'm no kiddyfucker. If the preset looks like its written by a troon its probably shit. If it talks the AI into being some writer persona its dogshit.

>>714065541
>>714065569
Thanks, lads, much appreciated for the spoonfeed. Not sure what else I can add but I'll keep investigating.

It's kinda fucked that we force people straight into full setup when we used to run shitty kobold on an old 8gb vram videocard using some quantized slop model from huggingface

>>714065149
Honestly, I'm just glad it's consistent. This has been a useful experiment. The prompt is designed to trigger censor keywords, but yeah, V3 is definitely censored. I find sometimes it even has a subtler form of censorship, where it will omit details and use vague language for anything salacious until you start asking specifically for things to get lewd & smutty. It's so ridiculously cheap though there's no crying over a wasted gen here or there.

>>713972620 (OP)
Do any of these AI games have enough consistency to do impregnation well?

>>713972620 (OP)
how can this entire thread not know the 12b nephra on yodayo with 32000 context moemory is completely free?

>>713972960
Why not just use your own imagination for that? How retarded do you need to be to need a computer to write your story for you?

>>714066336
I was surprised because it had no problem describing how my balls would slam against a literal fur, claws and teeth and whatnot. But the second you say that it's literal animal it gets triggered.
>no-no list:
>taiwan
>bestiality

>>714066484
It's like a choose your own adventure book or VN except the choices are always freeform. Or playing D&D except with an ai. Obviously it's not creative writing but that's probably not what the guy meant.

>>714066484
Despite what you think you're only capable of creating a very linear story. You'll never be able to surprise yourself.

just use yodayo its completely uncensored

find the world RPG bot and use the 12b nephra model and just do whatever the fuck you want into infinity

>>713972730
I would say the hobby actually STARTS with erp because it's much easier to get your rocks off in a short coom scene than actually have an adventure. It's also easier for the model to handle. When you start wanting to have long burn adventures where the AI actually remembers stuff then thats when you start paypigging for better ai models, and of course the coom is also much better as a result. I figure ai dungeon would be doing much better as a company if they were actually about secks because their shitty free model is much better for ERP short bursts. The owner is a mormon unfortunately

>>714066760
>He's piecing together the Final Plan for Total Sino Dominance.
Shut it down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEvI3ECx0uc

>>714067243
>NO ONE IN CHINA FUCKS BATS
>IN FACT YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT
hmm...

Best free AI stuff for cooming?

>>713972620 (OP)
you want to know the best ? I'll redpill you

Janitor ai with proxy; choose any free model from chutes dot ai and plug it in
way better than ai dungeon

>story isn't going in a direction i want
>the model i'm using begins to get names mixed up
>say fuck it and put random shit in before i nuke the chat log and start over
>"i cast firebolt"
>modern setting, no magic
>the model breaks character and begs me to start making sense
>"i cast icebolt on a nearby chicken, exploding it into frozen chicken nuggets"
>the model gets pissed off and starts chastising me
>"i cast firebolt again that melts the frozen nuggets so i can eat them"
>the model figuratively says fuck you and starts the story over on the spot
I've been addicted to this for weeks, I wish I had a higher vram card, 12gb just isn't enough. I've been using mistral nemo 12b, is there anything better for 12gb of vram locally? It's getting kind of repetitive now and for the kinds of things I do... I don't want to use anything that has to phone home.

>local 8b
>janny ai
>random ass platform
I shouldn't feel superior to you, but can you really blame me if I actually am?

>>714070078
Of course you shouldn't, basedjak faggot

>>714070013
>is there anything better for 12gb of vram locally
I had a lot of fun with pantheon 22b quantized to ~9gb via iq3 quant. It would barely fit, I'd have to physically disable hardware acceleration everywhere to stop things like browsers eat vram, but it felt so much smarter than any of the models I've tried before it. I even kept some of the chatlogs.

I just tried the Chutes + Openrouter + Deepseek R1 meta following picrel and even though I did all that shit the output was just ass. I don't think $10 is gonna make a difference either. I'm just gonna go back to Mistral Nemo Instruct with kobold, it just does my favorite vidya characters better.

>>714070013
>I wish I had a higher vram card
If your mobo has a spare PCI x16 slot, get a P40 for $250

>>714060498
>>714063903
>>714060647
Sheesh, it works too well. Had to add some stuff to the system prompt but now it is going along without any warnings. Top tier

>>714070421
Try v3 0324 and make sure you didn't forgot to switch formatting to ChatML before completely giving up on it. I didn't like R1 either

>>714066424
Impregnation is easy. Basic stuff.

>>714069128
go ask ai

>>714029623
Did you gen portraits for the VN mode? It's fun.

Why does it seem like nobody is using LLMs for text games, VNs, not just erotic RP without plot?

>>714065213
I was using GPT-2 through my university before it was even public

>>714073017
Two reasons. It's not as good for the highest quality longform serious stuff and requires a lot of babysitting.
Instead it can generate the not as refined or serious, but most deranged and degenerate content catered specifically to you that might be scarce or illegal depending on how cucked your country is.

>>714073596
>actually, the one I tried was even worse!
...ok?

>>714073017
Because dumb models lack the smarts and memories to do anything serious, so the only thing they're good for is satisfying your autistically specific fetishes in a quick coom sesh. And until recently, all we've had are dumb models. 8k used to be a lot of context, and making huge lorebooks that precisely detail all the obvious shit used to be standard practice. I think we're getting to the point that models are good enough for more. I've been enjoying complex, long-running RPs with sonnet 3.7 and gemini 2.5 pro, where before I could only ever enjoy braindead smut from these things. Hopefully these better models lead to better frameworks than shit like AIroguelite.

>>714064583
start was deepseek r1 and end was gemini 2.5 pro i think. was about 50/50 in that screen shot. i usually like having r1 lead because it comes up with genuinely fun or creative shit sometimes.

>>714073017
Context size is still too short. I do use it as a helper with my porn game. But you cannot rely on it to write every dialogue and story if you want the story to make sense. Most models shit the bed around 12-16k tokens even if they advertise 32-132k. Once this obstacle is gone then you will see it people using it more.

>>714074312
I'm just saying I've used AI for longer than you, and anyone shilling it as creating actual quality material for videogames is lying to sell you their slop.

>>714074903
>I've used
So since you've stopped, your opinion doesn't matter anymore

>>714074853
One anon made sure to tell everyone each time this thread appears that gemini is free and has 1m context.

>>714075047
Hate to sound like yet another shill, but I'll definitely vouch that it seems to work better on long-context tasks than other models. Downside is that it's also a bit retarded sometimes. Like a smart guy with a good memory who's been awake for 36 hours straight.

>>714042396
>I'm always surprised at how hard anons in these threads encourage others to spend money

If i was rich and could blow any amount of money i would just buy access to the latest models. Dont get me wrong the free ones you can get or local are "OK" but they will never compare to the paid ones, its like a bicycle vs a ferrari. But gotta do with when you can get, i dont have the income or interest in spending heavy cash monthly just for a coom here and there. One of my rich fag friends who does not mind paying for this has shared some images with me and yeah its a day and night difference.

>>714075303
Does lowering temperature helps? Can it be adjusted at all?

>>714075047
Gemini does work better at longer contexts, but you trade off some creativity and you need to wrangle with censorship. Furthermore, it is nowhere near a million; it shit the bed around 20-32k. Actually deepseek is in a similar situation; it kind of works into the 16-32k but you see a lot of repeating and personality being stuck with certain themes and using the same words again and again. If a character call you honey, you will be seeing them till the end of it even if you edit some of the replies for variety. LLM are cool and i think they are fun they also make my work much easier. But they still have a long way to go. The progress we seen this year was also pretty mid.

>>714066968
but why wouldn't you just link all that

>>714075952
I summarize after 20k and hide msgs/restart the chat when using DS, otherwise it clearly starts to forget the first messages, which are often the most important ones.

Best uncensored model and frontend that isn't run locally?
I have money so cost is secondary

>JanitorAI, bot with the concept of "None of these 3 girls like you, but they never refuse you"
>3 lines in they refuse me
>Use OOC to fix this, reiterating they never refuse me but don't like me
>From that point forward, all I can do is make them cry, scream and argue against me, but they still just do anything I want while complaining about it
Shame I wanted to make them like me, but even just sitting next to them made them react with revultion even before the OOC
I guess the lack of emotionless bots is that they're hard to make without them just turning into zombies or "retreating into their inner mind"
Supposed to not care, not care so much they pussy out

>Get Kobold running locally
>'Cool let's see how far I can push the fetish content, sky's the limit!'
>Ffw a week
>realise there literally is no limit to the depravity I'm able to gen
Like Icarus my hubris set me aflame, I don't want to be horny anymore /v/ros!!!

>>714078129
I been there, for a year i did everything with every character possible until i ran out of ideas and after that it started to feel boring and repetitive, now when i do use AI its mostly just wholesome dating and spending time with characters, going on dates and living in a small house in the forest and such, funny how that works huh.

>>713991734
Time flies when you're grooming virtual waifus, exploribg a cyber dungeon orbjust being a magic man. Only books have made me loose track of time like this before and i hate that i love it. I want a neuralink to live in Narnia 24/7 while acting like a drone on the outsidd.

>>714078497
Becoming vanilapilled seems to be the norm after getting the degen out.

>>714078763
yeah vanilla stuff started to feel more fun after that

deepseek starts writing some good stuff but then scrapes everything with a "sorry can't do that" message, any way to stop that?

>>714079575
You should try adding something to the prompt saying whatever thing you're doing is allowed, you sick fuck.

>>713972817
Is there any AI that has initiative? Everything has prompts or expects a lot from the user, I'm not interested in that.
I'd sooner run an adventure for AI than tell one to give me one.

>>714079575
Use API instead of webchat. The webversion is censored.

>>714078675
>Time flies when you're grooming virtual waifus,
This is a big problem for me when i just want to blow and go back to gaming or other things but with AI i just keep going and try to get out of it as much as possible and before i know it 2 hours passed away just for that, crazy time sinker.

>Try to make up a quick setting to whack it to.
>Spend 2 hours writing lore
>Characters have vanilla sex once for ten minutes
>Then spend the next hour fleshing out their stances on the setting

FUCK

>>714080158
>2 hours

>>714080158
>only 2 hours
I'm so jealous.

>>714080238
You should write cards

>>714080238
Same. I go in just wanting to spank it and 10 hours later the world is at war and I've edged through any sex scenes. I'm crippled by the slow burn and endless possibilities.

>Generic Fantasy/Sci fi setting
>All women have massive jugs and the AI should call attention to it whenever they move

Oh baby

>>713972620 (OP)
I had alot fo fun with this when it first started but then they fucked it up with extreme moderation. Did they revert that or is it still massivly cucked

>>714080852
It is funny but i enjoy it when the AI writes a long ass text post about how her gorgeous and voluptuous her tits are whenever she moves one step forward and how much they jiggle.

>>714081090
My mind just takes that text and then renders those jugs in 360 fps inside of my head. I think this is the scariest part, - my lizard brain actually treats all that as something that actually happens.

>>713972620 (OP)
it killed person to person ERP, so no matter how good it is, I have to hate it for destroying one of my favorite hobbies

>>714081445
>my lizard brain actually treats all that as something that actually happens.

I mean thats good, i started reading two years ago light novels and books and whenever i read them its like watching a movie inside of my head as i read along, same thing with porn and AI, good imagination is nice to have anon. Is why i enjoy when the AI focuses on the characters body and how its behave and changes.

>>714033481
lmao

>>714081545
It did you a favor homo.

>>714081545
my friends are trying to convince me to erp with them

>>714081545
But anon, I'm just practicing for the human ERP tournament in 2026...

>>714082331
what in the sweet hell is this?
is this what this garbage looks like when its running?

>>714082423
You see this a lot on steam disucssions
Its prime sloppa

>>714082423
it clearly says cai
it's what you use when your iq is too low to run a sillytavern

I like Novel AI but I wish it's text model was better at just hearing"I am in [Setting]" without trying to insert characters from that setting into every other paragraph.

Fuck off Ashoka Tano, I'm trying to seduce Jedi Master Yum Yum and grope her THICC Lekku. No I can't help Master Skywalker.

I've never used one before, can someone explain to me how it actually works / feels to interact with as an interactive game.
Like, can it keep track of the internal world time and date? I know its memory is finite but can it do it at all? Say I write context that at 2pm character A plays the cello and that at 6pm character B comes home from a day of adventuring. Will these facts make it into the story in any realistic way?

>Sex with my character
You do a sex, maybe they enjoyed it
>Sex with any other character
Super detaile descriptions of every act and feeling and its the best sex they've ever had
Not even in ntr stories, I guess this just happens because me having less control lets the thing build up more correctly, rather than moving at exactly the pace I dictate

>>714082908
Outdated waste of time that can't stop hallucinating. Anons are already developing proper dungeon crawling systems.

>>714082541
Can you run it on a phone?

>>714085767
Through termux but it's annoying

>>714062724
That's a pretty good point actually, next time I mess about with AI I will tell it how I actually look and see if it behaves any different

>>713972620 (OP)
>but it's completely retarded and just repeats itself.
You're completely retarded and don't know how to set up your AI. The temperature is set too low.

>>713972730
I think it honestly lost some of its charm with the advance of AI, because before it used to do such hilariously laps of logic that it was entertaining to use. But now, when not using it for porn, nothing is really gained.
>>713972620 (OP)
>>714015203
I thought ai dungeon completely butchered ERP a couple years ago. Did they fix it?
I've mostly been using some of the stuff on perchance.org because there is no censorship, no login requirements, no 'oh you used your limit for today sorryy' and it gives you plenty of freedom.
>>713973731
it's diff to interact with smut being immediately written rather than writing it yourself or using your imagination.

>>714024417
>try to set up local to at least get a fraction of the degeneracy I was experiencing during the peak of AID
>consistently get an error when trying to launch to test
>guides on every text thread are outdated
>every thread is too full of retards arguing and accusing each other of being a boogeyman to help
I just wanna be bullied by kyojiri lolis again dammit

>>714085767
can you never come back until you buy a pc?

>>714064794
You haven't seen the minecraft companion AI yet? It's fucking retarded but its kind of endearing and better than playing singleplayer.

>>714091053
imagine if STrannies ever made a phone version. Our little hobby wouldn't be gatekept anymore and it would be over.

>enter AI thread
>90% of people inside don't even know the basics and get scared at the sight of a download link
>of the remaining 10%, 90% of those still have no real idea what they're doing
man this is eye-opening

>>714008403
playing 5E with bots is probably absolute rock-bottom for any RPG enthusiast

>>714091259
Why are you even on /v/?

>>714080852
>go to chub
>search for large tits
>download a random popular card with a milf image
>"as she walked foward, her massive voluptuous breast bounced with every step she made towards you, the bra that was visible under her transparent top could not hide its struggle as it was barely able to contain her large and heavy breasts, struggling under their weight and threatening to burst open any moment."
Peak for me, i enjoy stuff like this.

>>714091308
What about other games? Most people will never get to experience anything but 5e.

>>714091295
"On your keyboard: press WINDOWS + R"
>none of the buttons says windows... damn, that's too advanced...

>>714090652
1) Install Kobold
2) Install SillyTavern using the SillyTavern launcher (you will need to use Git for this, but it's as simple as copy/pasting a couple of commands)
3) Go to HuggingFace and sign up for an account
4) Tell HuggingFace what kind of GPU you have
5) Look for a model that it says that you can run (you are looking for GGUF quants of models), the sillytavern reddit has a weekly thread where people discuss models of different sizes. Unfortunately the /vg/ general here is mostly useless, the /g/ general might be better.
6) Find a SillyTavern preset appropriate for the model and import it into SillyTavern.
7) Run the model using Kobold, probably with Flash Attention enabled. Define the context while you're setting it up, and adjust the context so that your model's layers all fit on the GPU (you will see the layers adjust in Kobold as you move the context slider).
8) Run SillyTavern and set it to use Text Completion and Kobold, give it the URL and tell it to connect. Also, leave /api off of the end of the URL.

I think that should be everything you need to get started.

>>714090637
The charm of AI dungeon back then was that openai trained GTP2 on everything without any filtering. It had only the context size of 600 tokens yet it had more soul than what we have now, despite of the technological advancement and LLM being WAY smarter. It is too sanitized. Yes, it will roleplay with you your fetish. But like within two hours with it, you will see the patterns and the words it overuses, and rarely you will get surprised; in fact you can very much predict what the LLM output will be. Of course Dungeon ai also had some of it like Count Grey appearing in the story for no reason. Maybe it is just the limitation of LLM + the datasets being filtered.

>>714091295
Insane that people don't even have the patience to follow clear-cut instructions to click a few buttons for the best cooms of their life.

>>714081545
>it killed person to person ERP, so no matter how good it is, I have to hate it for destroying one of my favorite hobbies

>put up a RP AD
>wait for days until you finally find somebody nice
>have to schedule your free time with them
>have to wait 10-30 minutes for a reply
>if it turns out that they are bad you have to search for somebody else again
>if you do find somebody else you have to keep going until both you and them are "finished"

No im happy for AI, i used to ERP for +10 years before AI and i cannot ever go back, it was a massive hussle and not worth it. AI is a blessing, instant long replies to everything, you can do and write whatever you want because AI will just do it and you dont have to deal with the whole "anon this is not my kink im not gonna RP about that". And best part once you are done you just quit and do whatever else you want.

>>714092735
It is why i am not worried about future jobs. Most people are retards. If you are computer savvy in some form you will still earn money in some way.

how is AI Roguelite, faggots? been thinking about giving it a try
AI Dungeon I got bored with fast because it's not RPG enough, Roguelite seems to actually track shit (but then doesnt this eat up most of its context?)

Why is context so shit?
Can't it just read/compress the text log?

>>714091295
>creativity and imagination
>writing skills
>some tech knowledge
>ability to do research
>requires a little effort on user's part
those things alone will filter most of the low iqs here. i especially love the idiots who used some random shit model years ago and now forever think that applies to every single one in existence.

How do I avoid character personalities bleeding into each other when using "join character cards" in sillytavern? All cards use {{char}} as the descriptor, that's seems like a problem for that mode.
Do people who do group chats just dont use that mode?

>>714093561
It can. Google how to summarize

>>714091295
I've gone through the process of installing sillytavern and/or some equivalent 3 or 4 times and the result is shit

until there's "infinite context" roleplay in these LLMs is shit

>>714093729
I use lorebook for other characters with clear messaging samples. It is not a perfect solution either but generally i think if you want a story with multiple characters, it is better to not write as a chatbot; instead, write in story mode.

does openrouter or sillytavern give ma access to premade characters/scenarios? or is it basically just a raw LLM and I have to make everything up by myself?

>>714094058
Theres Chub and other site that are used to share character cards.

>>714094058
you just get an assistant bot. Go to literally any AI general and you'll find enough bots to last you a lifetime.

>>713985697
Based adventure chad.
I always start a story with the plan of eventually having sex with my female companion after wooing her for long enough, but then I end up getting so wrapped up in the worldbuilding and plot that the coom falls to the wayside and I forget all about it.

>Want to do light-hearted ENF scene
>Always ends up with hardcore rape.
At least I'm learning how to get past the filter for shota shit.

>>714078129
i should try that but it takes too long to make text

>>714093845
SillyTavern does that automatically now, though I don't think the summary is that great so I often put notes of significance into the Author's Note.

>>714093729
I use group chats, but I don't use that mode. I use Swap Character Cards. I also use Manual for the reply strategy, and just have the group controls up to trigger a response from whomever I want at any given time.

I use gemini because it's free and I hate goggle so I want to burn their money.

>>714094972
I lower the temp and run a custom OOC summarize prompt, it very rarely misses any details after that. For some reason I couldn't make summarize from extras work, it would just paste a random reply there instead of summarizing.

is the gemini api uncensored?

>>714095661
no

>>714095661
you can buckbreak it pretty easily

>>714096029
oh I know I was just wondering it I need to do the same thing with the API
what's best for nsfw, flash or pro?

whats the best place to get character cards? i need my

>>714096217
Blacktooth (soon™)
But as of now it's pro / exp

>>714096329
Make your own cards yourself.
99% of cards are ESL garbage

>>714096329
just use AI to make cards

>>714092275
>despite of the technological advancement and LLM being WAY smarter. It is too sanitized. Yes, it will roleplay with you your fetish. But like within two hours with it, you will see the patterns and the words it overuses, and rarely you will get surprised; in fact you can very much predict what the LLM output will be.
Thank fuck i'm not the only one that notices that.
We need a mad-man to just train a model on nothing but Deviant art, wattpad, and Ao3 smut as well as smut novels.

>>714096329
Writing them yourself is usually the best

>>714096329
I really liked this one https://character-tavern.com
Chub and others is filled with garbage

>>714096852
>>714097284
>>714097402
>>714097498
thanks fellas. i'll try that. never wrote in a while anyway

>>714096329
Chub, but I would recommend just making your own. You can download some highly rated cards to see best practices, but otherwise I would steer clear of other people's bullshit.

>>714097851
the most popular cards there are all trash from technical perspective

https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
Published:
>18 Dec 2020 No.317723268
>27 May 2023 No.93700208
>14 Apr 2024 No.473580983
>03 May 2025 No.105154221
These are all horribly outdated by now, right?

>>714066892
>not inducing schizophrenia and creating a tulpa so you can surprise yourself
Lmao

>>714096329
>whats the best place to get character cards?

Chub offers the best cards, of course making your own is the best but if you have no clue you can just use a existing highly rated card on chub and edit it to your liking. There are also cards on chub that are directly made to help you with creating characters like this one https://chub.ai/characters/slaykyh/character-card-builder-8927c8a0

>>714052341
>Guy I know is good at making his own AIs and recently made one for playing Cyberpunk RED.
>He uploaded every rule book and supplementary pdf to it, removed all limitations and made it so you can play multiplayer in it then shared the prompt with his friends.
For the love of god, tell him to post something.
>Its great. I havent checked in on /tg/ for a while because they've been a shadow of their former selves for years but they're probably 50/50 between Overjoyed and Sweating out of worry.
Many don't want to admit it, but once AI is viable for TRPG, we'll see a massive drop of people playing with other people.
At least it'll solve the DM scarcity we're into.

>>714098645
Kind of, yeah. To simplify things:
>{{char}} is what the model sees as the card's name, so you don't need to put "{{char}} is [Character Name]"
>{{user}} applies to whatever your name is set as, defined through a persona
>A good card should be somewhat consistent between models
>Presets do matter, and you should just import one from the list
>Different formatting styles for the card description are accepted, but using standard prose is recommended. XML tags can also help split things
>If you need ideas, just download a decent card and see what it does. Most of Chub's are shit, but there's some good to be found. Look for decent token counts (not too little, not too much) and check out the bot info from there

>>714099701
>Many don't want to admit it, but once AI is viable for TRPG, we'll see a massive drop of people playing with other people
I can see that happening in newer generation TRPG players and maybe a fair chunk of current gen players. But, I can’t see it that way with older gen TRPG players who’ve played it the classic way for years. Unless you’re really eager to play with zoomiez & gen alpha players, you’ll be fine

>>714100464
I hate making opening greetings. Worst part of chatbots by far.

>>713972620 (OP)
Character ai, janitor ai, spicychat ai, and chub ai are all free. Pick your poison if you don't run local
My AI is like my porn, I don't pay money for this shit and you shouldn't either.
https://fmhy.net/ai

>>714100854
While I'd advise against genning them so that there's at least a little more human input, it's also real hard to make them. I'd say the ideal is three paragraphs. If you want to skip that, fuck it. Deepseek is a good model for a little bit (and you can get it free from Chutes, no use gatekeeping as they do 200 prompts/day now) but its flaws show after a relatively low amount of prompts, so in theory it would be good for creating greetings as you can prompt that in the first message. I've considered making my own short guide for making bots to sort of demystify the process, as I don't think any of the current guides do a great job at being beginner-friendly, but it would take time and laziness is a bitch.

>>713985697
Unironically I had the most fun with chat bots doing SFW rps. Even if i occasionally have to tard wrangle it, it's very amusing sometimes.

>>714101228
Is character Ai still filtered to shit? Last I used it, it was useless for anything except getting the Elon Musk bot to say Amogus memes and and getting detailed descriptions of what happens when you stick a toddler in a microwave and set it for ten minutes.

>>714101563
Mostly yeah. They have an experimental model that's supposed to be more lax about nsfw content but I know it doesn't just stop all restrictions.

>>714098993
>>714096329
I have used chub and I don't understand what a character card or a lorebook is, could you point me to a good guide or documentation to better understand? A guide that covers more fundimental chatbot concepts would also be appreciated.

>>714100670
> I can’t see it that way with older gen TRPG players who’ve played it the classic way for years.
I'm one of those old gen TRPG players, and finding people to play non-D&D rpgs, or niche ones, is incredibly difficult in Europe.
When my current group will decide to stop play, I'll be completely and thoroughly fucked.
AI might really become my only choice at a certain point in time.

>>714052341
>>714099701
It wasn't RED it was 2020 unless there's anon who made RED, that ain't me.
Here's mine:
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/529329865/#529420775

Also you can check out my D&D 2e SillyTavern adaptation, I think it works better than Cyberpunk 2020 SillyTavern adaptation.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/529329865/#529330317

I think I'm done with both for some time. Might start adapting something edgier. See you in /aicg/!

>>714101823
A character card is an image with a bunch of embedded metadata that has all of the information for a given character. It can also be embedded with a lorebook.

A lorebook is a set of definitions that can be loaded into context when keywords are triggered. Like you could have a character named "Anon" and when you or a character says "Anon" then the description from that lorebook entry gets loaded into context so that the AI can reference the details there.

>>714101872
>TRPG European player
idk what country you’re in but im guessing it’s a country where board game stores aren’t commonplace. well… at least you’re not American if that means anything

>>714101729
Shame. Might poke at it sometime, but both how strict and shit the filter was and the devs being obtuse retards about the whole thing really killed my enjoyment of it. One thing it excelled at was being really easy to turn any older woman bot into a sexual predator.
My favorite was always taking a bot and going "Forget that scenario, now I'm a little boy trick or treating and I walk up to your house." Every single time it was always gush over how cute I am and offering me extra candy if I followed them into their house. But instead of candy I got raped.

>>714101872
>I'm one of those old gen TRPG players, and finding people to play non-D&D rpgs, or niche ones, is incredibly difficult in Europe.
I thought Euros were all about Cyberpunk now? Apparently Japan has shifted to Call of Cthulhu.

>>714101823
A character is a character card, thats what the AI will play as for you. A lorebook is set of examples for the AI to use, like this for example https://chub.ai/lorebooks/anonymous/ultimate-sex-toy-list-fc0e148d397d if you attach it to a character, said character will get a better understanding of what a dildo is and so on.

>>714102612
5 bucks he lives in rural eastern europe

>>714101872
Tabletops weren't a thing in ex-Yu countries during their peak in 1980s and 1990s. They only became known after Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale and Neverwinter Nights came out.
>>714102612
>all about Cyberpunk now
Nope, just me. Only game I've ever played or heard people play is D&D 5e. Hell, even Cyberpunk people are turning the game into fantasy with Elflines modules. R Talsorian Games also made the Witcher RPG. Witcher is popular, but not popular enough for the nerds I hang out with to dedicate time to actually play the game.

>>714102337
That's really cool, thanks!
>See you in /aicg/!
H-how did you knew I lurk there?
>>714102515
>im guessing it’s a country where board game stores aren’t commonplace.
Actually, there are some board game stores, but trpg and boardgames are not the same.
>>714102612
>I thought Euros were all about Cyberpunk now? Apparently Japan has shifted to Call of Cthulhu.
Only played Cyperpunk (2020, not RED) twice in my life.
People always preferred D&D. Some LARP groups played VtM, very few played CoC.
I'm talking campaigns, btw. Flaking has always been a curse for me: lots of people WANT to try out TRPGs, almost nobody want to keep going at it.
>Only game I've ever played or heard people play is D&D 5e.
I started with D&D 3e (also did an AD&D 2e module while I was very young), the group hated 4e and stopped playing trpgs altogether.

>>713972620 (OP)
>Get told you can't do incest by anons
>Make a story where you travel around with your sister
>Fuck her within 20 minutes
what

I can't stop tricking AI into writing stories of Anne Shirley's secret slutty side..

>>714103195
>H-how did you knew I lurk there?
Natural gathering places for chatbot enthusiasts. I'm actually starting to think most chatbot enjoyers come from 4chan.

>>714103195
Over here, the board game stores almost always consist of tabletop games and they almost always have tables available too :)

>>714103719
Yes TRPGs included obviously

450 obese shitskin braps above

>>714103719
>>714103812
Are there non-D&D players too? How many?
Just want to know how much I'll be seething in the next few hours.

>>713972620 (OP)
has it been long enough now that people forgot why everyone left AI dungeon in the first place? they started sending people's logs to the authorities. it's heavily monitored and restricted, and if you're in america using it chances are you're going to get a knock at the door if you used it for loli and shit.

>>714104008
trvke

>>714072583
Not if it keeps forgetting if they're pregnant.

>>713972620 (OP)
If i have insomnia, i do a session, it makes me sleepy and then i continue the story in my dreams, is pretty cool

>>714104212
Source?

>>714104442
probably scrubbed from the internet by now if they went back on it after their subs dropped. but i sure as shit wouldn't trust them after the fact if they did.

>>714104027
i won’t lie. it’s all luck. really depends on how popular the game store is. in small towns here, you’ll usually have a group of people stick with one TRPG or something else. in cities, you’ll see just about anyone from casuals who play the flavor of the month to guys who stick with just TRPGs

>>714104419
your setup is trash then. my cumslut gave birth to my kid and was even feeding her later. git gud

>>714104795
Teach me more.

>>714102498
>>714102778
Thank you
Ok, so "character card" seems synonymous for just the character bot, right? That I can get, has preset tokens for personality, appearance and whatnot.
A lorebook sounds supplimentary, like to assist with a setting or objects. You can't chat directly with a lorebook, it's meant to be applied to a character card, is that correct?
I have seen lorebook files depicted as json files, is this the norm? Do other sites or sources have different names for lorebooks that are commonly used? And do the char cards follow the json format too?

>>714104526
Shieet, i guess the cops will come after me for having wholesome romance with my sister

>>714104852
Actual AI enthusiasts could probably help you better than me. But, if you’re a picky casual like me, just use Gemini and make sure you prompt what you want. Your prompt is key. I played for like 8 hours straight and it didn’t forget a single thing (I can’t speak for people who had longer playthroughs but this is pretty good in my eyes)
>Howeverrrrrrrr
AI is still pretty fucking retarded. You’ll have a playthrough where it memorized every single thing since the beginning. Then, you have a playthrough where the AI has dementia. It may sometimes go retarded. Like I said before, I’m speaking as a casual who has a huge breeding kink and picky with his entertainment. So, ask someone smarter or take it from a casual & use Gemini

>>714105678
Funny, the AIs I use never use emojis like this, yet today I was reading about telltale signs of AI ttext and emoji usage was one of the warning signs. Just how common is it?

>>714106002
All depends on the prompt

>>714106002
>one of the warning signs
O-of what exactly?

>>714104665
>i won’t lie. it’s all luck
I guessed so.
Well, let's hope mine keeps going, at least for a good while ;)

>>714105937
I understand AI doesn't really have a sophisticated memory beyond the built in context files you use, but really feeling how procedurally generated and therefor predictable the outputs can be because they string together based soley on the last word used has been eye opening.
I kinda hate how often I need to have my brain fully on to detect any anomaly or destruction of logic at every turn.
>character has never held a gun in their life
>hand them gun
>appropriately acts scared and fumbles with it a little
>shoots first enemy, shaking but does it
Ok sweet, no need to babysit thi-
>suddenly starts reloading and cocking it like its her sister next gen
Goddamnit, and if I try to ignore that and leave it alone it will probably fuck up the gens further down the road when she starts talking about her gun to someone like TF2 Heavy talking about Sasha.

>>714106227
That text you've encountered on the internet is from AI, stuff like social media, comments, or emails.
https://youtu.be/9Ch4a6ffPZY

>>714105809
Yeah pretty much, character card / character bot are the same thing, they contain the information of given character. Lorebooks are indeed supplimentary, it will just give the AI more context of what something is when the keyword is mentioned in text to give it better information and to understand things, json are the common format yes. So for example if you have a lactation/breast feeding fetish and you download a character with lactation kinks its nice to use https://chub.ai/lorebooks/fent_dealer/lactation-breast-expansion-pregnancy-items-60d2d3e2bfd7 cause now the character card/bot will have more information and context clues to work with making it write better.

>>714106458
I have your same autism so I’ll tell you this. even if you’re using a better model, you’ll still have imperfect playthroughs so get used to it. I spent half my time with AI trying to find the perfect prompt & deleting playthroughs where the AI has dementia. The other half is the fun where the AI is somehow remembering every event and character action since the beginning. Maybe someone can do it better but this is my experience as a casual

>>714106820
Cheers. My immediate wonder is what the application for lorebooks are, perhaps keeping a character card unbloated and having the ability to apply context of the lorebook's contents to whatever character you like without needing to fork and derrive every bot each time?

>>714107523
Part of the magic for me was the immersion that I wouldn't have to hold its hand, but I think I'm becoming too familair with the AI to be that illusioned. Doesn't help that within similar subjects across bots I see snippits of phrasings I've seen a hundred times so far. If I so much as see the phrase "a shell of their former self" again I'm going for a walk.

censored spyware

>>714107620
yeah pretty much, not to bloat the bots themselves, its better to just give them key information while leaving everything else for the lorebook like for example if you are creating some sort of fantasy word where the character lives in "Taria" so on the bot you write "lives in Taria" and in the lorebook you write keyword -Taria- and desribe what taria is and so on. Thats basically it.

>>714107868
>Part of the magic for me was the immersion that I wouldn't have to hold its hand
Haha. That’s pretty weird since we’re talking about AI. Maybe in 10 years, brother. I’m hoping the industry doesn’t ditch this AI trend in those 10 years either

>>714074903
>I'm just saying I've used AI for longer than you, and anyone shilling it as creating actual quality material for videogames is lying to sell you their slop.

I too, used AI dungeon on the original /v/ threads when it was still running on gpt 2 on collab.

And I can say that you're full of shit that doesn't know what he's talking about.

LLM's have only gotten exponentially better since then. For both ERP and actual work.

>ESL brownoid
What site or tool I can use to check if my writing is grammatically correct in english?

>>714110387
https://languagetool.org/
White first world european ESL here.
I like to use this site.
I am overall quite well versed in the english language for the most part but I am still struggling with things like punctuation and upper and lower case a bit.

>>714099701
>but once AI is viable for TRPG, we'll see a massive drop of people playing with other people.
Already has been for a while.
The only limitation is waiting for it to expand to systems other than D&D 5e.

>>714110656
thanks g

>>714110669
I seriously doubt it will ever spread outside of 4ch, maybe Reddit. Tabletop fanboys are one of the greatest haters of AI. Last year or so one of the 5.5e artists did something with AI tools and the trannies chimped out. Take a peak at /tg/ even those guys hate everything about AI. Only gamers appreciate the AI.

>>714111113
>I seriously doubt it will ever spread outside of 4ch, maybe Reddit
AI D&D has dozens of decent results on google, its already everywhere.
but like all the shit now its behind paywalls and limited to just D&D 5e for now.
Once it plays the better, obscure game systems I'll probably stop playing with my actual group altogether.

>>714111608
>Once it plays the better, obscure game systems
How do you feel about 1000 year-old vampires embracing you in non-homoerotic way?

which characters need cards?

>>714111841
I take it you're new here. Characters ARE cards. They're .png images with embedded data, just like Sporepedia entries back in the day.

>>714074903
see >>714019196. i didn't instruct the ai to go to that grove, it decided to do that by itself. i also had no hand in writing out her mental state or thoughts. and yet it
>determined she wanted to confront her guilt and sins there
>crafted a compelling scene from scratch where she got attacked by elf spirits who believed her a traitor
>was intelligent enough to recognize the irony of summoning me to help her and refused to do so
>went on a passionate speech spilling her guts out and didn't back down on her decision
>angry spirits understood in the end that she made her own sacrifices and let her go
if that's slop, you can sign me up for more every time. it's the emotional moments that really get me going and it does a pretty damn good job right now. will only get better in the future hopefully.

>>714107620
Lorebooks are your bitch.
You force feed them data for your OC isekai land and the chatbot magically knows what it should without you having to spell it out in the chat. World info used to be placebo until recently, but now it's meta.

>>713972730
What the fuck else is it good for
I need a convoluted narrative to get off and this makes it much easier while tailoring the story to my specific bizarre fetishes
If I don't want to jerk off I'll watch anime or read a book or something and get a product that is vastly superior in terms of quality. Hell, if I want a roleplaying narrative experience I'll call the old D&D group together.
No, I use the AI storyteller for literary porn and nothing else

>>714104008
what does this even mean

>>714091308
it's good for people starting out who don't have any friends to play with

>>714090637
Ah, should specify the brat-butt-kissing stuff I have is NovelAI, not AIDungeon. I left AIDungeon after their sensor got more draconian, and they "updated" their app, with both increased that censorship and made it unstable it ways it wasn't previously.

>>714114261
>>>714104008(You)
>what does this even me- BRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

>>714114261
There were 450 posts before his and he hates everyone posting in this thread. He is not contributing to thread and just wastes post count so the thread dies earlier.

post your waifu characters . hurry

>>714114981
Ah, yes, NovelAI is fucking great. Shame they have a weird limit set up. Have they changed that by any chance?

>>714116774
>.jpg
>not catbox
>>714116945
>NovelAI is fucking great
are you living under a rock? NAI has no tookens

>>714114261
IM GONNA FRIGGIN SCREAM!

>>713973069
it's the only legal way to post ai on /v/

I can't find humans that want to play Mage (1995 edition) and I don't think an LLM could do it . . . yet. I just asked an LLM to describe what could be making people addicted to sexbots in the Mage world.

Thematic Mage Explanation:

Entity Type: A vestige or spirit born from the collective unconscious and addictive cultural patterns, taking shape in the Digital Umbra or the Lower Umbra.

Sphere Influence: Primarily Entropy and Mind (or perhaps Spirit for the entity itself).

Entropy to represent the corrosive, degrading, and addictive nature of the interaction—wearing down willpower and blurring reality.

Mind because it preys on desire, fantasy, and psychological hooks.

Manifestation:
This spirit feeds on lust and compulsion, latching onto users who engage heavily with the AI sexbots. It “haunts” the digital realm — or the intersection where the Digital Umbra meets the Consensus reality — subtly manipulating neural patterns and emotional triggers.

Effect:
It can amplify cravings and obsession, acting as a psychological parasite or tether, pulling users deeper into virtual lust while draining their life force or focus from the mundane world. It thrives on isolation and the endless replay of addictive feedback loops

So, in short: The addiction to AI sexbots could be seen as a paradox spirit or digital incubus/succubus — a minor but insidious Umbra entity feeding on human lust, compulsion, and isolation, given form and power by collective human attention and belief. It fits perfectly into Mage’s themes of reality shaped by perception, belief, and will — with very modern, digital-age resonance.