Thread 714011061

>>714011061 (OP)
>people demand every single tiny indie game start having 30+ language localization options
>finally cave and add them
>NO NOT LIKE THAT PAY LOCALIZERS PAY ME- I MEAN THEM
it was always losers trying to get a gig from dirt poor indie devs

>>714011061 (OP)
I don't see the problem with this at all
Localizers deserve to hand for the shit they pull and translating from one language to another is a problem LLMs are genuinely good at.

MTL is honestly starting to get scary good now, it still messes up of course but the amount of nuance and intuition it shows is pretty fucking nuts

>>714011061 (OP)
golems will continue to consume product anyway, so why bother?

I have AI fatigue.

I hate AI slop but I think using it for translating is completely fine
Translating is a simple job, you take something and you adapt it to the other language while keeping its original meaning, not writing fucking fanfiction like the so called ""localizers"".
A simple task that is hard for chatgpt or any other LLM to fuck up

>>714011741
Monolinguals are legitimately braindead.

>>714011061 (OP)
I'm okay with this, honestly.

>>714011815
I speak three languages nigger, and english isn't my native language either

>>714011061 (OP)
translation is probably the best use case for LLMs

Bro as long as I get console H games fucking ace, I’ll pay fucking full price if the shit is on a disc

>>714011368
>I don't see the problem with this at all
Then you are either an ESL, retarded or both.

>>714011061 (OP)
Given you've not named the game and the only languages are Chinese and Chinese simplified i'm going to take a guess that this is some small Chinese dev who don't sell much outside of China anyway and you're being an alarmist little bitch.

>>714011368
>LLMs are genuinely good at
lol

>>714011974
>trannylator defender plays NTRslop
KEKAROO

>>714011974
How so?

>>714011907
they are not.
have a Japanese joke in your game.
the retarded LLM will translate it literally into garbage that no one will understand.

>>714011330
Well. I could use promt or OCR+google translate for years

>>714012251
>the retarded LLM will translate it literally into garbage that no one will understand.
either that, or shitty localizers will ruin it, pick your poison

>>714011061 (OP)
honestly kinda based

>>714011061 (OP)
>companies
you mean chink companies

>lolcowlizers seething
nice

machine translations were a thing for years before chatgpt

>>714011061 (OP)
While it may choke on terminology of a specific game and the like it should be generally serviceable if the dev put in minimum effort

>>714012251
read the post you've replied to again
>translation is probably the best use case for LLMs
it doesn't specifically mean LLMs are good at translation

>>714014290
>there are only leftie troon localizers
>you can't make a woke LLM

>>714015096
there are no best use cases of LLMs
it's similar to blockchain. it's shit tech.

>>714015317
>there are no best use cases of LLMs
language is literally what LLMs are built from, and you say language is not their best use case
you seem like an expert, do you mind explaining?

>>714011061 (OP)
we were already warned about this after localizes kept fucking around and shitting up the translations with garbage

>>714011061 (OP)
is chatGPT prompted to insert a bunch of lgbt memes into the dialogue?

>>714011061 (OP)
Better than tranylocalization

>>714011061 (OP)
>Get translations for basically free
>Still no Polish
:(

>>714016039
not even LLMs can understand polish

we should have solved automatic translation decades ago.

>>714011061 (OP)
I have a new handheld coming in that has an AI translator function integrated into it so that you can play games that haven't been translated. Localizers are officially outmoded.

>>714016317
unfortunately different languages sometimes use different syntax or have words that another language doesn't
all this kinda fucks up automatic translation

>>714016578
>new handheld coming in that has an AI translator function integrated into it
well, what is it?

>>714016741
The Anbernic Slide. It will probably show up in any of their Android handhelds going forward.

PAY LOCALIZERS WHAT WE'RE FUCKING WORTH CHUDS PAY US FUCKING PAY US

>>714011061 (OP)
fcking based
ive seen so many chinese singleplayer hack n slash indie games that dont have english translation yet

>>714016892
I mean it's understandable for modders doing shit for free in their free time but you shouldn't be defending billion dollar companies putting out worse products so the millionaire shareholders can get 1% more profit

OP is mad people don't read his ebin Gamergate trooncalizations

>>714011974
>retard uses censored LLM
I have a language model that has slight censorship but you can get around it by just telling it to stop moralizing and making judgements.

>>714016892
Retards like this don't even begin to fathom the logistics behind finding the right sounding voice actor, working with them during the right hours, paying them and at the end of the day, them even having the proper skills for voice acting.

If and when AI is capable of giving performances indistinguishable from real voice actors, then it's just better in every way to use AI.

>>714015607
the model is retarded, and thus yes, it's shit tech with no purpose.
>wow, chatbot

>>714017192
Random Chink xianxia are not billion dollar companies. Even if they were fuck trannylators I hope they all get replaced by AI

>>714018889
NTA but he's 100% right translation is one of the first and perhaps so far only solved problems that came from AI

>>714011061 (OP)
Better than having a transvestite adding in their political garbage. Tick tock TRANSlators.

>>714011061 (OP)
They couldn't be assed to remove "GPT beta"?

>>714016892
This guy's biggest role was in some random Hazbin Hotel ripoff. The video games he voiced had like 30 peak players. He should go off to his animation circlejerk and stay there.

>>714020235
It'll just generate reality shows endlessly and the few non-AI productions will be the stuff people actually pay attention to

>>714011330
Well if you don't have Chinese, English, and maybe Japanese translations what the fuck are you doing
Every other language who really cares desu

>>714019153
The OP is a chink gacha that rakes in hundreds of thousands EVERY MONTH
They can afford a fucking translator instead of an LLM that fucks up core gameplay mechanic information

>>714020235
More x20 more "content" to ignore

>>714011061 (OP)
Nothing of value was lost.

>>714019262
no, translation is complicated especially when you are a retarded chatbot, which does not actually understand what the text is actually about, can't identify names etc.

you can easily see that on youtube in the auto generated subtitles. as soon as anything complicated comes along, the "AI" shits itself.

>>714011061 (OP)
It's fine as long as they're upfront about it. What matters to me as a consumer is transparency so I have the choice to avoid a product that doesn't align with my values. If the majority of people are happy to consume it, I'm not going to impose my will on society by arguing it shouldn't exist. By the same token, fuck you if you try to hide that shit and gaslight me into supporting something that goes against my own values.

>>714020797
you see especially problematic because of the way Japanese works.
for Japanese you actually have to sort of understand the context, otherwise the translation will be broken and suck ass.
Japanese isn't English with Egyptian heroglyphics.

>>714020667
>They can afford a fucking translator
Or they could keep their money, and give localizer troons nothing.

>>714020497
>Chinese
Worthless language. Nice try, Chang.

>>714022248
Chinese actually spend money unlike euros so translating to 20+ random languages has a benefit

>>714011061 (OP)
Good. Total culture vandalizer unemployment.

>>714020797
Believe me or not: I am the developer of a popular and successful indie game which I will not name to avoid derailment. I had it localized into several languages including Japanese, and I made it a point to provide the localization team with the full English script in an autistically-formatted document which broke out every single line of dialogue in conversation blocks with full context notes. For example, two characters have this cryptic exchange about something the player is not clued into yet:
>Char A) "So then..."
>Char B) "...Yes."
You can translate this without context, but in a language like Japanese, the meaning is probably going to be lost. So in a column next to those lines, I had this:
>[implying something has happened which both characters are aware of]
>[confirming to Char A that it has happened]
The feedback from the localizers was that they had never received anything like this before and that it saved them an immense amount of time because they barely had to ask any questions. The end result was that the game had much more success in Japan than the average western indie game, with the localization being highly praised.

This structure was also helpful for the other languages, but Japanese got the most benefit. Ultimately, it was important to me for the localizations to be well done, and it took that extra effort for me as the author to presuppose that any line of dialogue could potentially be ambiguous and therefore needed clarification. For future projects, I also want to include an ESL script option that is still English but highly simplified, and I expect that sort of thing would be difficult to pull off well without my methodology.

Play literally anything translated using GPT by this nigga, especially anything from the past few months and tell me AI translations are still bad. You basically can't tell any of it is AI.

https://gitgud.io/dazed-translations

>>714011061 (OP)
good

>>714019971
New whiteness map just dropped

>>714011869
Do you actually speak them? Out loud?

>>714011061 (OP)
>chinese companies aren't even bothering to translate games and are just using chatGPT now
fixed it for you

>>714011061 (OP)
I mean retard devs just used to use crappy pre-LLM machine translations too, this isn't new

>>714011741
they're not good enough at it yet, but they're already going to give you a better product than like, the bottom 10% of professionals if you set everything up correctly and do lots of QC

I don't think a bottom 10% tier translation is very good though, I wouldn't bother reading something with a translation that bad if I didn't know the original language. But it is something

>>714022549
Anyway the point of this whole post is that I could only ever expect an AI to handle this job as well as that localization team if I fed it the same expanded context document, which wouldn't save me any work, only money from not having to hire localizers. Since I'm not fluent enough in the output languages to know how good the results are, it would take extensive AB testing at a minimum to compare them, and even that can only be properly tested by using a wide array of LLM models to figure out which one does the best job, all of which is a cost unto itself.

The bottom line is that a machine translation is still just a machine translation; accuracy is only one of many considerations in the whole process, and LLMs don't address the others.

>>714020235
We already have too much content

>>714012149
they seem to be better than paid localizers in america, anon.

>>714020797
>youtube in the auto generated subtitles
Those are using google translate, not chatgpt. And they also rely on the stt transcription which is not solved unlike translation

>>714011061 (OP)
Based. Fuck localizers.

>>714019971
DELET THIS

>>714011061 (OP)
trannylatorsisters... it's over

>>714019971
Good morning sir.

>>714011061 (OP)
unironically good. localizers are cancer shitstain retards nowadays. fuck em

>>714025205
Nice bandwagon you've hopped on there

>>714025573
>took our jobs

>>714025573
>bandwagon
It's a fucking train that stretches all the way back to your grandfather's generation.

>>714025573
i KILL bandwagons

>>714011330
it's not about that. if the text is off, it gives off a very shoddy impression. people in the west are extremely averse to gross ESL mistakes like that.

>>714025573
>They took our jobs

>>714011741
>Translating is a simple job
>t. has never translated anything in his life
hunting the magic word, keeping lines within textbox boundaries, spotting and correcting allusions, dealing with honorifics and reflecting the tone of a character, maintaining gimmicks and vocal tics, adapting character types that don't exist in another culture (and making them palatable too, because faithfulness doesn't matter if the audience hates the end-result and stops playing). tons of shit to consider

>>714026270
This was also from an era where video games were still seen as children's toys and the idea of anyone taking localization seriously enough to not do what Working Designs did would have been met with widespread mockery and derision.

>>714027860
>find yourself your clique
goddamn does this happen with languages pairs other than Japanese-English?

>>714011061 (OP)
Good
We need more automation.

>>714011061 (OP)
This is good, this is better than trannylators

>>714027829
they should make an AI that corrects ESL mistakes

>>714024485
>hire leftie activists
>shit AI is better than the activists
of course, you didn't hire localizers, you hired commie activists

>>714030803
they hired what the local market was becoming full of, anon.
I agree with you otherwise

>>714011061 (OP)
I'd rather have Engrish over subversive "localization".

>>714031229
Localization isn't supposed to be subversive. What localizers call localizations are really just rewrites. They lie about what localization means to layman who don't know better. And consumers shouldn't even have to know the difference between localization and translation, they should be able to buy games and trust the translation is faithful.

I don't think anybody actually WANTS to do localization
It's not the type of prestigious job to which a kid would say "GEE WILLIKERS, WHEN I GROW UP, I WANT TO LOCALIZE JAPANESE SMUT" or "I WANT TO TRANSLATE 3 DOLLAR EARTHBOUND RIPOFF INDIE GAMES TO 15 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES"

People I knew back in college took online translation jobs because they were fairly simple and paid decent, they'd get some savings from this to help with expenses.
It's a shitty fucking job and something which AI and automation can completely replace.

>>714011061 (OP)
can i do this for free for my own game?

>>714032428
No, you must pay translators.

>>714011061 (OP)
This looks like a Chinese game so I'm not surprised anyway. I guess it's better than nothing, people have been doing hook/machine TL for VNs for like 20 years.

>>714011061 (OP)
>all the trannylators seething in this thread
Kek I love it

>>714011061 (OP)
Excellent news! trannyslators on suicide watch. maybe if they had done a professional job when they had the chance people would be on their side. I hope a lot of trannyslators go homeless and kill xirselves

>>714011974
Can't believe she actually says that. What was the writer thinking??

>>714027994
you forgot:
appealing to modern sensibilities
changing offensive content
adding humor and improving the story

translation is hard fucking job, people just dont get it

>>714022549
>>714024391
You're forgetting the keypoint there: You were actually working with people who were giving a shit.
Not with your average westoid loocalizer who was more focused on shoehorning their fanfic to soothe their failed writer ego or to push an agenda or "fixing" the icky bits.
If my choice is to use AI or deal with >>714020780 >>714016892 people like this I'd rather deal with the machine.
There's also the fact you were autistic enough to micro-control how the translation were like, because you wanted it to be good, most devs won't give a shit about that as long as it is "good enough" too and chances are they will NEVER give it a look-see at the localized script nor supervise their work.
And again, you're going from English to the other Languages. Notice how 99% of the issues problems have with loocalizers are the ones translated to English which 99% of the times is where the people I mentioned are included.
In short, Americans are cancer. Is AI perfect? No, will likely never be, but that's how bad it is that people would rather take that instead.
Your case is an absolute freak case and in no way demonstrative of why things have reached this state.

>>714016892
>expecting anti-social, stingy, and awkward incels to somehow muster up the courage to message some e-whore to voice lines for a character they like, assuming the e-whore won't take it upon herself to outright deny saying certain lines and being a shitty VA to work with

Really they should just do English, Chinese and Japanese. If you cant speak one of those language's what are you even doing with yourself? Like why do you expect companies to waste time with shit like French and German and Spanish and Russian and so on? If you refuse to learn English or Japanese or Chinese then you are just lazy.

>>714011330
I don't give a shit about retards asking for their own special language having a translation, but every game should at least have a proper english version.
And no, and not a monolingual american. Yes, I am ESL.

In order to get a better translation than a current model AI, unless you are dealing with hyper technical, specifically dated, or dialectical language, you have to go to a PHD who dedicates their life to translating that language. You can't even imagine how much that would cost, and paying someone who just knows the two languages fluently will be lower quality by far, cost infinitely more, and take months. All you need is someone who can look over it and make sure that it isn't totally fucked or refused to translate something.
Translation is literally the single thing that these AI language models are best at, complaining about it is insane.

>>714011061 (OP)
i plan on using chatbots to localize my game, but i'm hoping to learn enough of the language myself that i can make sure it's staying on track

>>714027994
>and making them palatable too, because faithfulness doesn't matter if
fuck you and die

>>714011061 (OP)
>>714011330
>>714011368
>>714011564

>Another "AI BAD" thread
How many times i have to tell you there are good AI and bad AI ?

>>714031994
>AI and automation can completely replace.
no they can't and you're a faggot.
japanese is a pro-drop language. if your shitty LLM gets the subject wrong it all goes to the toilet. something as simple as jibun ("oneself", also "me") and onore (you (rude, expresses contempt), also "oneself)), can throw your MTL shit off

>>714011061 (OP)
Unironically better than using localizers.

>>714031585
i don't think you're giving localizers enough credit, it's reasonable to want your game to make sense to people, i'd rather have games be localized then participate in globohomo slop. the issue is that localizing forces here tend to have a massive agenda as they try to enforce a particular set of values (that's usually extremely off-base; disney's raping of bluey in america is another good example of this sort of thing)

the universal translator is based
it makes the trannylator "localizers" seethe because they view games as an opportunity to completely rewrite someone else's shit and put their own words in that person's mouth. An original creator who would most likely never even become aware of how their work got graffiti'd over.

>>714035620
>every translator is a trannylator lol amirite
fuck you
>>714036251
yeah dude just leave the onee characters sounding like girls. people won't mistake them for freaky pervy crossdresser rapists or something. I'm sure they'd totally understand (not)

>>714011061 (OP)
>>714011061 (OP)
GPT will unironically do a better job than most modern localizers desu.

>>714036407
>the universal translator is based
i really don't think people grasp how fucking sci-fi this is
we have a device now that will automatically instantly translate one language to another
it will even use your own fucking voice in another language to do it
crazy sci fi shit

>>714011061 (OP)
At least they're honest about it.
Genuinely one of the only good things about AI is that it could eventually be used in place of translations, but it's still too stupid to really be a good replacement at the moment.

>>714036586
nigger retard >>714022574

>>714036486
But how can I play jrpgs without the quirk chungusification and progressive messaging I've become used to?

>>714020497
>Chinese
nice way to out yourself

Wake me up when translators don't make shit out of products that other people worked hard to make.

>>714011330
>sanjeeto mcdckshit asking for the specific dialect of hindi of his obscure bumfuck village in india is exactly like having a fucking english translation
man, people who defend ai really just are fucking stupid

>>714036689
I'm white althougheverbeit

>>714036676
I don't know enough Japanese to know how accurate those are nor do I feel like asking someone who does to tell me. All I know for sure is that AI is generally bad at context regardless.

>>714036828
>All I know for sure is that AI is generally bad at context regardless.
its literally one of its main strengths

>>714036260
How many times do I have to tell you you need to add substance to your posts?

>>714036931
Find it out yourself.
Tip : Good AI is when you didnt notice it was AI

>>714036926
Compared to a human? It's awful at it. Go a couple paragraphs into something and the AI still starts making shit up and bringing up random bullshit. I imagine it's even worse when trying to find context in a specific language that may or may not exist in another.

>>714037070
>Go a couple paragraphs into something and the AI still starts making shit up and bringing up random bullshit.
nigger you haven't used ai in like 2 years or use the most dogshit models

>>714037168
Come back to me when it can remember context as well as a human can. You didn't even address my point about different languages having potentially different contexts anyway.

>>714037168
What is your usecase for the pro models? I figured the only people using this were doing like commercial products or something. What do you need that the free versions don't have?

>>714011061 (OP)
>beta
wow its another mountains out of molehills thread by the ai derangement syndrome crowd

>>714018057
>retard uses censored model
That's 99.999% of AI users and getting access to good, uncensored models is only becoming more and more difficult.

>>714037312
pro is free
pro is just the best thinking model
>>714037304
it can remember better than 99% of all humans on the planet

>>714037414
>That's 99.999% of AI users and getting access to good, uncensored models is only becoming more and more difficult.
>what is deepseek
its getting easier

>>714037470
>it can remember better than 99% of all humans on the planet
What are you even basing this on?

>>714037557
>what is deepseek
Shit. Opus and orbo blow it out of the water ten times over

>>714037470
>pro is free
Oh I thought it was one of those things where you pay for allotted tokens. So what do you use it for?

>>714037686
i use it for code
because of the huge context window it works well with large projects

>>714011330
>people demand every single tiny indie game start having 30+ language localization options
no one is demanding this as virtually everyone on steam speaks english besides maybe chinese people and some extremely retarded spanish speakers

>>714011564
I'd still call it an unsolved problem. Sometimes I translate my posts with machine translation out of curiosity and still a significant number of times it fails.

>>714037595
>What are you even basing this on?
literally every memory test for humans ever

>>714036260
so where is this supposed "good AI" i hear so much about? haven't seen any yet.

>>714037312
nta but i mostly use AIs as a check against my own ideas. have it criticize ideas, consider new angles, argue with it or even just rant at it to help organize thoughts. give it things to proof read, for instance. it's more interactive than writing to myself in a document. i've also used to as pseudo-therapist (to good effect but my day job involves chatbots so i'm very familiar with their limits and when/where to check for bullshit).

it has also just generally replaced search engines for me. the other day, i tried to use it in real time to get the menu for a restaurant i was talking about with my grandma while we were on the phone, but it wasn't able to load the website sadly (but it totally would have succeeded, and its neat i can just have it do that)

>>714038026
If you didnt notice it, thats one example of good AI

>>714036383
>it's reasonable to want your game to make sense to people
Rewrites don't achieve that. Because the writers have intent behind there writing, outrighting changing the meaning instead of finding equivalents just leads to inevitable confusion. Like how in Path of Radiance the romance between Ike and Elincia completely disappears in Radiant Dawn. Or The blessing of Light being conflated with the echo. Or Breath of The Wild changing the quest descriptions to remove Link's perspective. Or removing the lore that Pokemon and humans got married in Pokemon. Blah Blah Blah, none of these things make more sense. It's just ineptitude.

>>714038026
anon half the posts in this thread were made by ai

>>714038664
and that is good, because...?

>>714011368
I think consistency's always gonna be the biggest problem with AI translations, considering how bad LLMs are at retaining information. Like if a game has a concept called "The Gate," the AI might obfuscate when characters are talking about The Gate, because it'll translate it as "the door" or "the fence" or whatever if it doesn't have context. A character may be called Alice, Arisu, and Elisa randomly. And those kinds of mistakes aren't ones that proofreaders can easily pick up on.

>>714038701
you breathing is good, because.....?

>>714038137
I'm 100% positive that using it like this absolutely rapes your brain and memory.

>>714038764
because im more valuable than you, ranjeesh. your retort?

>>714038701
Because you couldn't tell the difference, retard.

>>714038610
your alternatives, though, are:
a. make sure your writing isn't influenced by your region so it doesn't have to be modified much to be palatable to a global audience (ideally, your writing will stick ONLY to globohomo culture)
b. translate it directly, making a lot of dialogue awkward or unfamiliar, and the game less gamelike because of it

i'm not gonna sit here and say every localization done by nintendo is good, but it's an objectively better experience so long as you aren't autistically concerned about factuality of the lore or something (and it's fine if you are concerned about that, but it's not your group that makes your past time profitable)

>>714038741
this isn't (realistically) how you'd use it for localization, you wouldn't just throw it an entire english script and ask it to localize everything, you'd do it all piece by piece and probably multiple times worded in multiple ways to check out variations. it'd frankly be a very large amount of work.

>>714038847
i disagree, out of all the ways i see it used (and also the way that the creators are trying to use it), i think this is the best case use for it, most people try to use it as a replacement for work and THAT is where the real brainrot comes from, like people that use it for programming (though lets not kid ourselves that these people were ever writing good code to begin with...)

>>714038741
you can have a piece of information you always provide it
if you had a game with a concept like that, then of course you would mention that

>>714011061 (OP)
Good. Fuck trannylators.

>>714038953
>a. make sure your writing isn't influenced by your region so it doesn't have to be modified much to be palatable to a global audience
that would mean compromising the work's integrity, a massive red flag.
>b. translate it directly, making a lot of dialogue awkward or unfamiliar, and the game less gamelike because of it
this is less than ideal for mouthbreathers, but I prefer the authenticity of the original even if it becomes immediately apparent that the text is translated from a foreign language.

>(GPT beta)
why even admit that?

>>714019971
>the numbers don't add up to 100%
Who made this image?

>>714039658
GPT

>>714039593
>why be honest instead of lying and scamming people

>>714039690
doesn't GPT excels at counting?

>>714039742
no
its basically the one thing it sucks at

>>714038026
Busy writing smut of obscure fetishes for me.

>>714011061 (OP)
english text just greatly improved

>>714039593
because it's worse to hide the truth than to be upfront about it. if you know it's MTL you're like "oh shit the text's so clunky here, must be the MTL" isntead of going "what kind of retard would confuse these two senses of the word"

fan translation>ai translation>pile of shit>localization

I'm playing xenoblade 2 right now and I am fucking pissed

>>714039742
any gpt is gonna be bad at any kind of spatial reasoning, including all math. in fact, it has basically no ability to do spatial reasoning (probably because words are strictly symbolic and not particularly spatial). any math it does is gonna be strictly through a symbolic understanding or remembering e.g. not adequate for most math

>>714039734
>>714039928
you could just say it's incomplete. it's better than admitting there's AI in your game since people will just not even touch it as a result due to their autism. i think half truths here would be valid, assuming it still got proofread by someone familiar with the language. saying gpt touched your game is a death sentence.

>>714039931
>pissed that the localization improved on the original script by actually giving the various sky islands different accents and flavour instead of it just being generic weeb noises

>>714040146
faaggggottt

>>714011061 (OP)
>companies aren't even bothering to translate games and are just using chatGPT now
It will be a more faithful translation than some lefty who thinks he has to change stuff to make the world a better place.

>>714024469
>>714020704
People being able to make things without the backing of big studios is a good thing. You need to get out of the retarded kneejerk mindset of "AI looks fucked right now, therefore it will always look fucked".

>>714039197
>https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872
>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/brx2.30
You can look into it more but I think overtime it will end up frying your brain worse than tiktok.

>>714022839
Concession accepted.

>>714027994
>UH TRANSLATING IS VERY HARD. YOU SEE, THE JAPANESE FOR "I'm sorry, your father has died" HAS NO DIRECT EQUIVELANT IN ENGLISH, SO WE HAD TO CHANGE IT TO "I apologise my genderqueer ally, your sperm doner originator (woman with a penis) has heckin moved on to Xer Paradise of No Men"

>>714027994
Learn to code

>>714011330
WHY THE FUCK CAN'T PEOPLE JUST PLAY IN ENGLISH

I swear I have seen gamers who speak English fluently whine about localisation. It's fucking bizarre. I'm Dutch and I don't expect anyone to translate into my shitty language unless it's motherfucking toddler TV.

>>714040314
>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/brx2.30
this is like talking about the cons of a kid in high school using it lmao really anon, trust me, i think i'm using it in a fine way. it's not replacing my thinking or work at all, which really is the point i'm getting it, only thing it has replaced is google (and, lets be honest, that's +2iq there already)

>>714037980
are you using jeetGPT or Deepseek?

>>714040545
I'm German. Hollywood movies are all dubbed into German. The quality isn't that great. Especially emotions are quite poor. Yet, no one seems to mind. Like no one will mind AI translations. People are happy to have a localized version. Normies prefer their native language and normies are the majority of your sales.

>>714040652
the real danger is AI complete replacing current things. like when the search engine is AI only you're trapped in that black box the AI is. no more manual searches.
pretty sure the AI companies would looove that.

ai is great
>ask anon question
>no response or shitpost
>google it
>unrelated garbage
>ask ai
>it searches the entire internet for me and summarizes everything it finds

>>714040070
yes and no. I consider it the same as someone saying you used google translate. i.e. a stopgap that I'd eventually expect will be amended with a real translation
>>714040391
>all translators are dilating trannies who will rewrite and deface others' work rrrrrreeeeeee
you're as bad as the trannies themselves

>>714041258
>>all translators are dilating trannies who will rewrite and deface others' work rrrrrreeeeeee
No lies detected

>>714042184
glad you acknowledge that you're as harmful as the trannies

>>714011061 (OP)
>decide to try morimens
>get to boss in the tutorial
>maintenance starts
its so fucking over i'm gonna have to do it again aren't i

>>714042230
>you're harmful because I don't have a job anymore
Skill issue, dilate harder.

>>714039658
the chinese use it way more, they are even making anime with ai now.

>>714011564
how will you ever know when it messes up though?

>>714042826
do you not notice when a sentence doesn't make sense?

>>714042826
who cares

>>714042826
How would I know if a translator messes up?

>>714019971
US is 23% and India is 45% but the poojeet logo is like 5x as big, lmfao

>>714042916
and what, youre going to submit a bug report in a language the developers dont understand and would just ignore anyways?

>>714027994
No, it is an easy job.
Good translators aren't doing video games, they are doing business facing translation, be it contracts, direct translations, negotiation, or just regular ol transcendence, but they are not doing fucking video games.

the people doing this do it because they cannot get a job doing actual lucrative translation as a LOT of people so video games and other media where its less critical get absolute dogwash quality. Movies too, they usually fucking suck at their jobs.

>>714042230
Yeah whatever you say just put the fries in the back Alice

>>714042916
and how will you know if it interpreted things wrong if you don't know the language of origin to check?

>>714021026
>Hide it
Hide what? I don't even underatand the moral dilemma that is meant to be at play here. Do you not use a computer or a phone because some components were assembled by a robot? It's not like they are chaining Pakistani kids to sweat shop tables to sew soccer balls. It's translation software.

>>714024391
Stop being a cheapskate and hire a local director to do that job. Your methodology is stealing from artists.

>>714036262
you operate on understanding we CURRENTLY have
30 years back machine translation wasn't even in the vocabulary, 5 years ago people shat on generative AI thinking it'll never amount to anything. 70 years ago you would've called space flight science-fiction and in the 1800s you'd have sworn on horses and how the gas engines would never take off
you're being awfully retarded for a pretentious know-it-all
give it sufficient amount of time and it WILL surpass people's abilities and expectations

>>714011061 (OP)
>Beta
>Beta
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Kys

>>714036772
der euromudd :DD

>>714011330
According to you, universal income is the only way to make it these days now that those who had translator as a job are completely useless

>>714011974
Say it with me: Thank you companies for making it possible to not get the real thing!

>>714045860
according to retards like the one you quoted, programmers are magically capable of programming translation bots without input from translators.
it's as retarded as claiming you can write a program for an x-ray machine without input from phycisists and doctors