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>>714032348 (OP)
Turn Based
Half the game takes place underground

>>714032348 (OP)
Put yoshida as director then do the opposite of what he says.

Make it an actual Final fantasy and not kh action slop/mmoslop

>>714032348 (OP)
Space

A cool setting that isn't generic near future sci fi

>>714032348 (OP)
whatever the story is gonna be, we all know it's gonna be yet another stagger bar slop game

Loli party member.

>>714032348 (OP)
just make sure the story is finished
so tired of cliffhangers and teasers that only get resolved in sequels and expansion packs
I'm so happy 16 didn't do that
and it was a better game for it
I also hope it's just like 16 because the butthurt from fags on here and preddit is hilarious

>>714032348 (OP)
Stop having fully animated cutscene dialogue, stop having voice acting. Fixed camera angles.

>>714032348 (OP)
Either go back to turn based or give Yoko Taro a crack a directing

>>714032348 (OP)
Entirely prerendered backgrounds with wildly varied and carefully composed scenery

>>714032348 (OP)
Clair Obscure but weeb and actually fun.

>>714032348 (OP)
You have to kill God at the end

>>714032348 (OP)
Fire Yoshi P and fire anyone from CBU3 that even thinks about touching it

>>714032348 (OP)
Characters/party members:
Female MC with a kuudere personality
Tonberry mascot
Innocent Shota
Overly emotional big buff middle aged man
Sexy Haughty Princess Girl
Horny Priestess Girl
Hot Headed Gunslinger
Perverted Old Man
Loli Character with a foul mouth and lewd - tries to make shota do perverted things

Villain
stereotypical cool boy with black hair/japanese self insert.

Plot
The world is shit, people are dying, sickness everywhere, crops fail, animals are sick, and generally a very depressing place.

Female MC is given a quest to return the Tonberry back to his home. However, during their travels they become embroiled in a plot where the villain uses the world's crystals to bring back his dead ancestor who was the greatest Emperor the World has ever known. Villain believes his ancient grandfather can restore the world back to prosperity.

So they gather the crystals and find out the reason why things can't go back is because the Crystals of Light were used to seal the Ancient Emperor. They break the seal, and things get a bit better, but the Emperor returns to power and fucks things up making things even worse because it's now a joyless communist where he dictates everything. You have food, but no freedom.

Then the Female MC assists the Villain to bring down his ancestor, only for him to betray the Female MC, and gather all the Crystals himself becoming God.

Now the team must bring down the villain and restore the balance of the crystals and create a 3rd world, which there's some bad stuff, but you have freedom to do what you want.

Battle System
Turn based with backrow party switches. You can only switch party members with a team member the front line is "linked to"

Job System
Since the Crystals are involved again, each character can get a selection of jobs again, but each character has a "unique" finisher for each job. So for example, MC is the only one that can cast "Flare" if she masters Black Mage, and only she can cast it.

FF11 gameplay with FF14 character customization

>>714032348 (OP)
1 hour max cutscene budget
Make them count

>>714035728
>Female MC
The Terra and Lightning experiment failed

>>714034095
16 was kino, people here are retarded.

>>714033931
I hate the stagger bar, it's shit

>>714032348 (OP)
It is time square... You need to put Old Yeller down. But the brand recognition. shhh I know, let the pillow softly nuzzle the last bit of air out.

>>714032348 (OP)
Ben Starr in every role

I let the Stranger of Paradise team make it and do whatever they feel is best

>>714032348 (OP)
Strand-like gameplay

>>714032348 (OP)
Turn-based and put E33's fighting system with some tweaks.

>>714036090
That game sucked

>>714032348 (OP)
They just leech the skill based turn-based combat of Paper Mario & Expedition 33.

>>714032348 (OP)
leotard fantasy

>>714036090
nah that would be way too kino

>>714032348 (OP)
Direct sequel to the FF7 remakes

>>714036137
yeah, it sucked my dick

>>714032348 (OP)
13 but actually introduce everything that was cut during development
alternatively do 6 again but with good graphics

>>714032348 (OP)
2D SD characters with a shitload of animation frames.
2D enemies with a shitload of animation frames based on Amano stuff (instead of the usual cardboards)
Classes.
Silly medieval story that does future shit later on.
640x480 target resolution.

>>714036137
Still the best that came from SE in the last few years. Still, good or not, Jack was a great protagonist, a breath of fresh air and hair in this world saturated with manlets and troons.

>>714035473
>>714036125
Why would you want it to have e33s real time/turn based hybrid combat? If you hate FF having action combat so much why would you want the combat to still be reliant on real-time inputs?

>>714032348 (OP)
controlling summons turns it into like a musou

>>714032543
Expedition 32

>>714036310
>Jack was a great protagonist
This has to be bait

>>714036412
I would never joke about Jack's strength as a protagonist.

>>714036412
filtered

>>714036473
Fair enough
>>714036490
Explain in your own words why he’s a good protagonist

>>714032348 (OP)
Just make it like Rebirth but without the towers. It has the best combat system in the history of the franchise

>>714036596
Remake’s was better.

>>714032543
This is what would sell people more so than making a good game.
>>714032348 (OP)
SRPG, with more dynamic combat like intractables in the environment or a combat system that utilizes push/pull mechanics like Divinity OS. Basically their BG3, take a job system ontop and you have a great combat system but also fits in well with FFT and job system they've done in the past.

As far as the story, no more crystal world ending bullshit super villain. No one wants an Ultima to show up after 20+ hours and change what the game is really about

>>714032348 (OP)
Make it an arpg that plays like nier replicant and make it an mmo

>>714032348 (OP)
you're an engineer working for the empire. You do not betray them
you help them fight against an alliance of kingdoms controlled by an evil cult
you use your magitech engineering skills to explore The Void, find the cult's evil gods, and put them to death

heavy gacha mechanics

Every FF up to XIII (X, if you want to be real strict) had clear gameplay similarities that built upon each other. XV and especially XVI have muddled what a final fantasy game is to the point where only the shallow resemblance remains. At this point it's like calling Nazi Germany, the Italian Empire, or the first French Empire the Roman Empire because all used the fasces, the eagle, the standard, and other Roman iconography.

>>714032348 (OP)
>Agni's Philosophy
>CTB
>Summoner lead again
>6-7 party members, all class FF jobs
>timed spells and defense

>>714032348 (OP)
Entire world has a Yoshitaka Amano aesthetic

>>714032348 (OP)
The Spirits Within, but remixed

>Tales games are delaying so FF doesn't rip off its plot 1:1 again
LMAO

>>714032348 (OP)
>ATB combat
>Actually fun summon system
>Controllable party members
>Traditional fantasy setting
>genuinely good minigames
That's literally all it takes to make a good FF. Square is simply retarded.

>>714032348 (OP)
3 black guys and one half white half asian girl save the world from (evil thing) from the past that found a way into the future
you travel in time and use magic to defeat the monsters
it's really huge and spans over generations

>>714038126
is that Dustborn?

>>714032348 (OP)
So it plays kind of like 13, 15, and 7R. Not really turn based, not really action. The story is super generic and not finished. It'll take 10 years to make and I'm thinking about releasing it in parts. I'll also plan on sabotaging it's release with a remake of 8.

>>714038271
no it's final fantasy
two of the black men are trans and did I forget to mention that it's turn based?

>>714038289
>remake of 8
I like your style

>>714032348 (OP)
Western setting with cowboys, Mexicans and Indians

>>714038098
>Former slave, fire wielding swordsman main character.
>Trying to follow up on what happened in his past.
>Ice queen girlfriend.
>Rebel leader who guides the MC for a while and gets him started, then dies, MC carries on his legacy.
>Wolf themed party member
>Plot that starts out political about journeying to different lands and destroying their crystals, devolves into SUDDENLY ALIENS
>Formulaic first part about joining up with the rebellion force of each region and gaining their approval, only for them to not do anything and the main characters just break in and do everything themselves.
bonus
>Action gameplay that newfags love and oldfags are dissatisfied with.
It can't be a coincidence.

>>714038391
Wild Arms
also I would play the shit out of an FF that did this

>>714032348 (OP)
Xenoblade gameplay

The plot is about being a slave to a great advanced machine empire. You escape and destroy them and use the pyramids to fight the aliens. Wakka shows up at some point and tells you that he's your father.
You end up becoming the hero of blitzball and defeat the Goers 1-0

>>714038329
Yeah that's final fantasy. The final fantasy you get before the euthanasia drugs kick in

>>714038585
Xenoblade 3 and Metaphor already did Job Changing better than FF ever could, FF should just die.

>>714038631
would play this

Go back to Ivalice.

>>714032348 (OP)
a mmorpg sequel to FFXI but a predecessor to FFXIV.

there; your next millions. now ship it

>>714038631
I like it

>>714038106
>ATB combat
Been there, done that
>Actually fun summon system
subjective, you couldn't define a "fun summon system", you don't even know what it's supposed to be.
>Controllable party members
That's a given.
>Traditional fantasy setting
Why, so we can continue with the "it's just GOT" pissing and moaning?
>genuinely good minigames
Same as point 2

I think the equally retarded fanbase is to blame for FF declining, you faggots don't even know what you want out of FF.

>>714032348 (OP)
Canon romance is the male beast(man) companion.

>>714039138
Traditional fantasy isnt GoT you absolute fucking faggot.

>>714032348 (OP)
Triple down on the retardation and make a FF15 sequel but girls band only.

>>714032976
underrated post

FPS. We want to strike another iron while it's piping hot you see.

>>714039138
>Been there, done that
And it was good, therefore it does not need to change retard
The "everything must be new for the sake of being new" is the opposite of progress and quality, suck my asshole
>you faggots don't even know what you want out of FF.
>get told what people want
>NOOO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY WANT THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT
Shut the fuck up, fucking 80iq clown shit right here jesus christ.

>>714032976
actually a viable recipe for success
squenix have a bunch of genuine anti employees on their payroll, they should make use of them exactly like this instead of letting them do what they want

>>714033931
>we all know it's gonna be yet another stagger bar slop game
I have the solution for this, ready?
No stagger gauge allowed, no matter what name it's given.
Easy.

>>714036310
>Jack was a great protagonist,
no he wasn't
you aren't understanding the difference between good character and funny meme
jack was a funny meme, the game was unserious and had zero immersion because it was ALL just a meme
funny meme can be good, on occasion, as a one off spin off. it does not fulfil what the serious audience demands of a real game

>>714039839
It could be a mix of stalker and republic commando with overwatch jobs. You would have vehicles for fast travel and run into pack of bandits/get ambushed walking around.

>>714032348 (OP)
The gameplay should focus around the player completing multiple "runs" which each start with the player being dropped from an airship somewhere in a large map.
The player will have a small amount of time to forage for equipment before they start encountering randomized enemies. Eventually a "circle" starts closing around the map, forcing the player to reach a specific point where they have to fight the next boss.
What do you think?

>>714036596
>It has the worst combat system in the history of the franchise
Ftfy
Although I guess not quite true because 15 and 16 are worse, but aside from that remake has genuinely the worst combat and least deep rpg systems available of any mainline and most spinoff ff games up until 15 onwards. Pure unadulturated dogshit for zoomers and adhd clowns who can't stand a camera being in place for more than 0.3 seconds

>>714040697
fuck staggers and fuck health bars, i want the thrill of watching my team on the brink of defeat then the boss suddenly convulses and the camera doing a closeup on it as it start turning into an bright light with exaggerated sound effects before it all goes quiet then a triumphal theme start playing while my character do their victory pose.

>>714036542
Anytime he believed or figured out something he didn't fuck around to long about his past, some future ideal or whatever he just made clear he's going to deal with it and then did so.

I have nothing against story, nuance or any of that stuff that came later but Jack perfectly embolizes the era of FF1 players who focused during their playthrough on acting instead of longwinded waxing over nonsense.

>>714032348 (OP)
Final Fantasy 4/6/9-style where every party member has a distinct combat role and niche. MC is naturally just the dude whose strategy is having great stats, high durability and acts as an anchor for his team by hitting Attack repeatedly.

Black female lesbian mc is a must

>>714041763
It's been 10 years. Move on. Get help.

alright *smacks lips*
we got the warriors of light see?
but like
they're in SPACE
and instead of fighting primals, they're fighting ASTRONOMICALS
that's right, you're gonna be limit breaking THE SUN
we need to put this cosmological menace back in its place

7-2

Take Nomura and someone who can tard wrangle him so his autism is contained. Guaranteed gigakino and gajillion copies sold.

>>714032759
cold steel?

>>714041019
Zoomers fucking love competitive Pokemon and it's turn based.
If anything, FF7R shitty combat is meant to appeal to braindead millenials and dad gamers.

>>714032348 (OP)
Just bring back to comfy modern day/futuristic scifi settings. Fuck mediaeval GoT shit.

>>714032348 (OP)
New mmo.
11mmo>12>13>14mmo>15>16>17mmo

>>714032348 (OP)
I want a Final Fantasy that leans more into the sci fi part of science fantasy. I want a space opera with multiple planets, each with a unique biome. I want imperial knights, space pirates, and psychic wizards. I want a ragtag crew aboard a rustbucket ship. I want multiple alien races alongside humans, all part of a federation of some sort. I want both on foot and ship combat.

>>714032348 (OP)
Literally just steal from Clair Obscur as closely as absolutely possible

>>714043058
But instead of an Everquest-knockoff or WoW-knockoff MMO, it's a persistent survivalcraft game where each player controls a team of four heroes fighting over Crystals.

>>714043259
Nevermind, that sounds so bad just let ff die then after 16. Also kys for even saying something like that.

>>714032348 (OP)
don't make it turn based, don't have party members, don't have RPG mechanics, act surprised when it flops, repeat for Final Fantasy XVIII

>>714032348 (OP)
1) No more fucking Crystals nor Ivalice bullshit. The former continuity was complete shit from the start, and the latter has been disgustingly overused. Make a new FF setting like they used to before
2) no more realistic yet overstylized designs for a while. Go back to either cartoonish or simpler designs, closer to FF5, 9, Crystal Chronicles or Tactics.
3) No more remakes in general (except for Vagrant Story, but thats outside FF)

That is all.

>>714041642
>6
>a distinct combat role and niche
Lol, lmao, XD.

>>714032348 (OP)
It ends like this. Replace Danganronpa with Final Fantasy.

>>714038003
Still pissed off this isnt a thing.

>>714032348 (OP)
A game where the summons ARE the party members and you have to fight a human bad guy that doesnt become a god at the end of the game.
The limit breaks are the signature summon attacks.

>>714032348 (OP)
Vtuber storyline

>>714044091
I will always love how buttmad people got over that, Danganronpa devs were based

>>714032348 (OP)
Sprite based, NO particle engines or HD2D bullshit. Limit 3 orchestrated songs.

Nigger protag.

for the love of god do not put XVII in the name. I love FF with all my heart but this is the one time where I think they need to ditch the number
anyway
>STOP TRYING TO MAKE SUPER DENSE LORE! NO MORE SIDE MEDIA NO MORE 20 YEARS WORTH OF POLITICAL DYNAMICS SHOVED IN THE FIRST 10 MINUTES! START SIMPLE AND BUILD UP THE WORLD THROUGH THE STORY
>Put TWEWY writers on that shit
>Proper romance element instead of the absolute joke that was XVI where Clive fucks a deadweight girl who does nothing afterwards
>Battle system takes inspiration from LaD Infinite Wealth, build on the positioning aspect and make it feel like a semi-tactical game so people can feel smart, have environmental interactions like throwing nearby objects
>Job system with cross-classing but jobs are based on their best characters from previous games (except XIV) ie Dragoon is based on Kain's iteration with Dissidia inspired moves, Mime is Bartz where you have multiple cross-class slots, Summoner based on Yuna, etc
>Crystals, Realistic Artstyle, sci-fi vs fantasy etc all optional, I just want all the essentials there like chocobos and traveling the world
>Although preferably some whimsy would be nice

>>714032348 (OP)
make it like MGSV except in a final fantasy type setting. also, lots of big titty babes.

>>714035728
this sounds like every generic jrpg.

it's gonna be a world where only monsters' skills/magic exists, creatures govern the world and humans are treated like the lowest scum
main char has a natural talent... he can learn those monster skills/spells, it's a blue mage
the main antagonist doesn't exist in reality and it's only a hallucination caused by a rare space microorganism that's infecting and manipulating human and monsters minds, but that alien virus is at the same time the only salvation to make an nearer planet habitable, monsters and people native planet is dying
idk if it makes some sense

>>714032348 (OP)
FF14, offline and fully single player.

>>714046645
good news you can already play FFXVI

>>714032759
Very white

>>714032348 (OP)
Make a Goblin Slayer game (square enix hold its rights) about him finally dying and the blonde girl that follows him going insane and becoming GS2, things get more complicated and ends up in a final boss against the meta gods of her universe, then when the credits roll, a familiar song plays and then the game title transforms into "Final Fantasy XVII".

>>714032543
Fucking this

turn based ffx style

open world i.e. overworld map no menu

>>714046851
Crazy long story that they keep adding to with expansions? Relic weapon quest autism? Cool raid dungeons?

I've fallen in love with the world of Valisthea, so I'd like to see a Magitek War prequel to XVI.

If not that, then I'd like to see a game that returns to the mechanical simplicity of FF1 or something like Wizardry. Storywise, I'd like to see a smaller cast of characters involved in a more intimate plot with intimate, personal stakes. How about a revenge story?

>>714032348 (OP)
A turn based game where you have 3 guys in a row and you travel around a world map and near the end of the game you unlock an airship
wow, so difficult.

>>714049880
Why would you want a game with shitty gameplay like FFXIV?

>instead of making FFXI for phone (wich could be done 1:1)
>SE makes FFXIV
Just why....

I had an idea for a smaller, lower-budget turn-based game with a rainbow fantasy raypunk aesthetic. Not unlike Robot Unicorn Attack 2. Y'know like a big, gay intergalactic soap opera.

>cast similar to ff9
>story similar to ff8
>gameplay similar to ffx
>graphics similar to dq11
>music similar to ff9

>>714040893
no one who actually played the game would ever say this

>>714032348 (OP)
>get matsuno
>get sakaguchi
>get yoko taro
>get akihiko yoshida as char designer
>somehow get uematsu for ost
>give free reign for them to do whatever they want
>give them as much money as they want
>give them 4~5 years to develop it

>>714036596
why do people keep repeating this bs? rebirth/remake's combat is fucking garbage, it tries to do so much and doesn't get anything right.

Either make a full on action game or don't, but these middle of the way games that don't pander to anyone are fucking bs.

Sekiro, Kazan, Nioh2, DMC5, these are good action games, Rebirth and FF16 are not.

>>714036412
You didn't play the game, Jack is the best protagonist in the series at all points of his character arc

FFXVI Spoilers
**The continued adventures of Jill Warrick, who now works as a courier, delivering precious cargo to remote and locations in a world devoid of magic but never lacking in danger.**

>>714035728
Unbridled tropekino

Something that will sell 10 million copies at $70 (just to break even).

>>714032348 (OP)

Make it steampunk, turn-based, wholesome, and go through Nomura's 90s sketchbooks for art direction.

FFXVI Spoilers

||The continued adventures of Jill Warrick, who now works as a courier, delivering precious cargo to remote locations in a world devoid of magic but never lacking in danger. All the while, she remains hopeful that one day she will be reunited with her beloved.||

>>714052813
nobody cares about ff16

FFXVI Spoilers

The continued adventures of Jill Warrick, who now works as a courier, delivering precious cargo to remote locations in a world devoid of magic but never lacking in danger.

>>714032348 (OP)
I'm not gonna ask for a 2D game, but at this point I think it's time for back-to-basics. Action just isn't fortifying this franchise the way they think it was supposed to. Attempts to experiment and innovate destroyed their development processes and there's not much to offer anymore that really is worth how much they're throwing into these damn games.

They really need an earnest return to what put them on the map while trying to understand and comprehend it instead of autism retardation.

>>714032348 (OP)
FINAL FANTASY X[V]II
IS
DRAGON Q[V]EST XII

Return to 4 niggas in a row

SEVENTEEN niggas in a row

>>714051112
Shut up. Don’t tell me what’s good or bad. You’re bad. I’m good. Ugh

>>714053140
SE would be stupid not to capitalize on the groundwork they laid out with the Pixel Remasters. They have an in-house version of Unity specifically for JRPGs, so why not make an original 2D game? It would cost them practically nothing and it would finally shut the turn-based fans up.

1. Find an outside author to write the story.
2. Find an outside designer to make the battle and RPG systems. Or just rip off something successful.
3. Use your in-house artists/sound/programmers to actually make the game.
4. Add a bunch of bombastic cutscenes or whatever.

>>714032348 (OP)
Return to the fantasy setting. War-torn continent with low magic setting, where each country controls an elemental crystal and magic is restricted to chosen keepers of the crystals, there are 8 of them, one for each element and astral/umbral aspects.
Fast-paced ATB system akin to FFX-2 with job system that allows you to change classes mid-battle based on the garment-grid system in FFX-2.
The game has a hard limit on 3 party members with occasional 4th guest characters. Certain characters may leave, but a suitable replacement will happen most of the time. Battles transition seamlessly and skills require positioning. Terrain deforming skills exist. You can expend half an ATB bar to move your characters on the battlefield.

The story revolves around 3 disconnected people who are struck by crystal fragments when the crystal of their home country suddenly explodes, this gives them the first 4 jobs in the game and part of the story is about hunting down the missing shards and uncovering why the crystal shattered while all the other countries begin having similar problems. Think FF5 including a multi-world story.

>>714032348 (OP)
Gachaslop. it will be the most beloved FF game by /v/.

>>714032348 (OP)
Give it a real number instead of 1052

>>714054726
Fantasy is overrepresented in gaming right now.

>>714032348 (OP)
>Turn based
>Colonial/exploration era visual setting and technology with the usual final fantasy trappings of airships and magick etc
>Instead of the tired exploring the new world storyline, the new world is in the post beginning stages of colonization and only part of the story takes place there

>>714055075
it's final FANTASY not final SCIENCE FICTION.
They need to return to their roots.

>>714055152
The most popular games in the franchise (VII, VIII, X, even VI) were fantasy sci-fi, with storylines and settings heavily leaning on the mix of magic and technology.

>>714032348 (OP)
Turn based. Make it an RPG. Make it a turn based RPG. MAKE A FUCKING RPG YOU DUMB YELLOW FUCKS.

>>714055152
Even FF1 had scifi stuff in it.

>>714032348 (OP)
Plagiarize this entire novel series with the names of real figures changed and with the addition of cute girls and the return of the gambit system.

FF only had 1 good turn-based combat system with FFX. FFX-2 had potential but the game was so gay it ruined the appeal.
Honestly they don't even trust themselves to make a good turn-based game so why should we.

>>714054726
>low magic
>FF
Already not FF.

>>714054232
I genuinely think whoever is in charge of FF right now from the top down is obsessed with the idea that Final Fantasy cannot dare go back to 2D or anything like that. They won't put the budget forth for real remakes/remasters of these older games without going the VII route of re-inventing the game thinking it's too outdated for modern audiences, which is why the Pixel Remasters feel like supremely budgeted affairs with their music arrangements getting the lion's share. It has to push forwards, it has to innovate, because VII shifted the balance towards games with big presentation in 1997, and therefore to ever dial back on anything classic-styled that isn't some mobile game spinoff? Is admitting they failed to innovate.

tl;dr Japanese pride

>>714055780
>anon sees sexy women
>immediately becomes gay
Huh?

Game similar to 15 where it tells the story about a love struck couple losing each other, but instead of it mostly being in the past it’s set after the loss in future with the secondary protagonist being an older woman who heavily supports and mentors the protagonist. There’s also a few missions set in the past when she was younger and her husband/boyfriend was alive

so far every ff with 12 and after had:

all characters having the same generic anime face
little variety
mmo type quests and gameplay
less importance on giving you a full story but way more on "freedom" and "open world"

i think 15 (never played 16) and the remakes esp were so terrible.
i assume they'll just copy alot of stuff from e33 for 17.

>>714054726
FF5 is the only old FF you played if you think this is what old FFs are all like

>>714055927
Forgot to mention the love story stuff with be a secondary story told/revealed along side the main one. The main one would be the main protagonist getting mentored and preparing to save the world like the usual FF game

>>714055803
Duh, that's the whole point of mainline FF. It's JRPG but expensive. If it's not expensive, you call it an FF spin-off and nobody buys it.

>>714032348 (OP)
If its turn based again please no more atb. Ff9 really shows the limitations of that system, 10 and opera omnia have far more engaging encounters despite being regular ole turn based.

>>714032348 (OP)
Make some sequels to other enix roleplaying games from the 90s instead of making more final fantasy.

>>714055425
Only near the very end of the game.
>>714055801
The setting begins low magic, the crystals exploding means anyone who gets a shard gains access to magic. The chaos of going from a low magic world where it's strictly controlled to one where it's rampant would make a good story.
>>714056031
I've played every FF game.
FF5 is the best one.

>>714032348 (OP)
Remove Nomura
Do not involve that faggot YoshiPiss
Get some new talent in there with GUIDANCE from one oldhead, I said GUIDANCE not full control from behind the scenes
Focus on lots of content, return to turn based but add more systems to it
People WILL compare it to expedition 33, the ball is in their court to one-up the frenchies or at least get on the same level
They do not need a budget of one billion gorillion dollars, do not focus on any open world memes
Overworlds can be done without the need for big gay empty worlds

>>714043867
This coke ad still plays on a cashier's register screensaver at a Tennessee countryside grocery store.

>>714032348 (OP)
Trailer for 3rd part of VII remake comes out. It looks awesome, and is huge. Square is redeemed for everything people didn't like about the first 2 parts. At the end of the trailer it says Final Fantasy VII. Then the X fades in. XVII.

>>714056398
>I've played every FF game.
>FF5 is the best one.
I've also played every FF game, and finished all but three of them. FF5 is in one of the worst. Horrible world, horrible cast, horrible story, horrible music, just horrible.
>but muh jobs
I don't play JRPGs for character customization and progression systems. That's what cRPGs are for, JRPGs are for cool worlds, cool casts, cool OSTs, cool stories, all the shit FF5 failed at.

>>714035904
>Terra
>Failed
Retard. Also a tourist because FF6 has no protagonist.

>>714032348 (OP)
>take 16's hack-and-slash combat
>combine it with 7R's character switching
>include a job system akin to Stranger of Paradise's
>each job uses JP earned from battles to purchase new moves and support abilities
>more stylish gameplay such as longer combos or usage of moves with high risks (e.g. long startups or recoveries) will result in higher EXP, JP and gil earnings after every battle

>>714056936
>JRPGs for character customization and progression systems. That's what cRPGs are for
what the hell kind of crpgs have i been missing out on?

>>714040893
I dont care if my games are "serious" or "mature". Cinematic experiences can go fuck themselves. I want my game to be fun trips and Jack's characters fulfills the requirements.

>>714056915
>kino
My 30lbs steel dilator shot out of my neovagina and through a wall when I read this

We need waifupandering, yumepandering, fujopandering and gaypandering.

>>714032348 (OP)
11 party members, world of ruin, 5 person party, Rebirth style combat, change airships halfway, tons of different types of enemies, chocobo garden, entirely brand new races of NPC monster race like those orange fuckers from ff8, ends in a happy marriage/kingdom unite, sex scene

>>714032348 (OP)
They have to read books and take hints from them in order to build up a valuable story. Then they have to find out what's the better game and fighting mechanic and implement it. Then they have to ask Nobuo Uematsu to create the soundtrack. It is that easy.

And expecially they have to avoid Sweet Baby inc bullshit, DEI/Woke faggottry etc. Games doesn't give a damn if redditors get PSTD if they play the game and it is not a Marvel/Disney crapfest, but for example a Noir game. They have to focus on producing stories that are worth to be experienced, not just watch the numbers or what the Redditors like and then produce a Fanservice slop.

Noctis was too twinky looking and Clive was too muscular looking and came off in a homosexual light. They need to find a balance between twink and muscular, so they don't look homosexual. We need a cool edgelord that's attractive but in a heterosexual way and does sick iai katana anime attacks.

I dunno but it feels like it should be set in space/galactic

the earthlike planet/fantasy setting has run its course

>>714032348 (OP)
Release the FF IX remake and then make FF17 a turn-based sequel to FF IX.

>>714032348 (OP)
go full dnd and make it akin to bg3 combat with ff storytelling

>>714061823
I think they're scared of full sci-fi after XIII's reception still. Which sucks, because interweaving fantasy and technology could actually be pretty neat in the right art direction, but only so long as it's actually distinct in its own right and doesn't fall back to effectively being "well here's a giant robot, and the standoffish pretty protag kills it with a sword before running off to kill more shit with the sword", as if it's all merely set dressing.

>>714032348 (OP)
What I want:
>turn based
>hand crafted world and characters
>proper open world with overworld map
What we will get:
>action/staggerslop combat
>ugly world decorated with prefab assets purchased from an indian studio
>ugly generic human npcs
>incoherent "open zone" world design

>>714061910
Also more main story quests that play like grindy MMO fetch quests. Like 70% of FF16's main quests were running to a place and killing generic enemies.

>>714032348 (OP)
whatever execs think the modern audience wants, but like from a wholly misguided reading of market data from 10 year ago

so they are probably going to make it a battle royale.

>>714062301
they already tried that with the first soldier
it shut down less than a year later shortly after the devs made a big reveal for the next major content update, because turns out it was really demanding on mobile hardware and not worth the investment

>>714032348 (OP)
Turn based with some unique gimmick. Female party members of the same level of quality as Tifa, Aerith and Yuffie. Guaranteed GotY.

>>714032348 (OP)
It should have 2 campaigns, one written by progressives asked to make it progressive and the other written by chuds and asked to make it chud (I don't know how many chuds square has left though so they may need to do some hiring)
Each storyline ends before the final boss and you have to do both for the parties to meet up and beat the final boss together.

>>714032348 (OP)
Super Sentai/Power Ranger team complete with a robot transformation sequence.

Turn-based or ATB with battle screen transitions, absolutely no actionslop
Full party with more than four members to swap around, plus optional members
Lots of stats, equipment, items, spells, techniques, summons, status effects, and limit breaks
Characters with interesting control schemes such as fighting game commands for certain limit breaks
Some main gimmick for the combat like job system, espers, materia, junction, abilities, sphere grid, etc.
No retry or autobattle nonsense, no casualization items or features for people who don't like battles
Control summons in battle
Grand set pieces with unique events/scenarios in each town/location
Lots of NPCs to talk to and stuff to do in each town that isn't copy/paste sidequests
Some major optional but recurring minigame like Triple Triad, Tetra Master, Blitzball, etc.
Ridable chocobos, controllable airship
Lots of enemy and boss variety (maybe with a monster arena with even more unique bosses like FF10)
Rich endgame content with multiple superbosses, secret summons, ultimate weapon sidequests, etc.
Short but cool prerendered cutscenes
Short/no tutorial
Good OST by Nobuo Uematsu
Nice menus that don't look like mobileslop or those generic AAA menus that every game has now
Dual audio with lip sync for English and Japanese
Interesting setting instead of basic high fantasy (such as FF6's fantasy with a steampunk twist, FF7's technopunk, or FF10's tropical island setting)
Interesting story with twists, but feel free to end on the standard "main villain summons god/becomes a god" cliche
No ugly women or black characters (including party members and NPCs)
No input from any ethics department

>>714032348 (OP)
Super Sentai/Power Ranger team complete with a robot transformation sequence.

>>714032348 (OP)
First of all, make it a fantasy setting. 12, 13, 15 and 16 are not really classic fantasy games. 12 is Star Wars in disguise with no fun allowed, 13 was some sci-fantasy shit, 15 is just Nomura's Italian vacation and 16 was trying to be Game of Thrones. The only non-human party member in all those was a very fuckable bunny girl, we didn't get a moogle or bangaa or a fucking yeti or anything because they're too "weird" for FF now.

Like, give us an airship pulled by a fucking dragon or something like that you'd see in classic fantasy.

>>714061836
>sequel to FF IX.
no

>>714032348 (OP)
Like Nightreign with FF jobs like White Mage, Monk, Dark Knight fighting iconic bosses and monsters from classic FF in zones like Baron castle from FF4.
Instead of 4 niggas in a row you'll get a friendslop with 4 players co-op!

(1/2)
Protagonist is a mysterious figure who shows up to a countryside village out of nowhere; no explanation as to why he's there. He is very polite and designed in a way that always shows his eyes closed as he smiles when he says something. He tries to negotiate with an innkeeper to allow him to stay for a night as he's penniless, but the innkeeper turns him down. Despite this, the MC bears no ill will and wishes the innkeeper for the best. A widower middle aged woman who works as a housekeeper for the inn overhears the conversation and walks over to the protagonist, she offers him room and board as long as he helps her with household chores. He follows her home after waiting for her to finish her shift and she opens the door to reveal she has a daughter (cute and precocious) and a small puppy. Protagonist acts shy and once again thanks the woman for the hospitality. A cut scene follows where the MC does various household chores with the daughter and mother chiming in as well as teasing him for how helpless he does things. They generally start to enjoy his company and his witty humor as the day goes by and the sun goes down. The MC remarks how he is rather tired, and he retires to his room. The scene ends with the mother and daughter exchanging sincere smiles as the daughter comments "Mama.... he reminds me of papa." The screen fades to black as the sound of cicadas and crickets chirping grows slightly louder. The soft snores of the daughter are heard, the next scene begins a few hours later during midnight. "....Hey, wake up will you?" the soft voice of the main character is heard before the screen slowly shows the daughters eyes opening. Her perspective is blurry before it focuses and she sees the main characters smiling closed eye expression right above her head leaning down. "Hey.... mister? Why are you in my room? Is everything okay?." After a brief moment of silence, the MC's expression unchanging, he softly says "I am... truly sorry."

>>714032348 (OP)
Don't give a shit about story and just have an ensemble mostly made up of hot waifus and gacha mechanics. Gamers nowadays mostly consist of mentally ill coom-brains. Good vidya is over

>>714032348 (OP)
How about a better writer? The writing has been ass from since 13

>>714065093
(2/2)
The sound of a sword being unsheathed cuts loudly through the silence and ambient critter sounds and with one quick motion the MC raises and plunges his broadsword through the chest of the daughter. The shot then shows the face of the little girl, her eyes wide open and her expression blank, her pupils vibrating as they remain glued to the face of the stranger she was just bonding with not a few hours earlier. A stream of bright blood flows out of her mouth as she coughs, a guttural low frequency groan barely escapes her mouth before the hand of the MC moves quick to muffle her sounds of agony. Her hands reach for the blade, fingers trembling at the edges of her wound coating her hands in her own blood as her legs frantically spasm out of control. She then reaches for the hand of the MC as he turns the blade to deepen the wound and presses harder against her mouth. Her muffled screams of pain and agony go unanswered as tears run down her eyes. His smile fades and his eyes slowly open as her confused and terror filled gaze remains fixated on his face. After a few moments of grabbing at his hands, her hands finally become motionless as they drop limp. He removes his hand from her mouth as he looks down at her lifeless saddened expression. His hand covered in blood; he removes the blade from her chest before quickly returning it to it sheathe. He stares at her body before a tear forms at the corner of his eye before its hastily wiped away with the back of his palm. He turns around and closes his eyes before uttering the phrase "You may now be at rest.... I am sorry but this is the only way I can save them.... may the four have mercy on my soul..."

>>714064716
>Play with friends
>defeat FF4 boss like Golbez for example
>Unlock Cecil skins for Dark Knight and Paladin jobs/characters
Could work

>>714032348 (OP)
as long as it has FF7R's combat anything is good but they really need to drop UE4. That shit is ugly and outdated as fuck.

>>714065602
(3/2)
>Turn Based Combat (Similar to FFX, if it ain't broke don't fix it.)
>Game has Ultimate "endgame" weapons similar to Celestial Weapons but called "Limitless Weapons."
>Protagonist does villainous despicable things that make sense 3/4ths of the way through the game. He does horrible things but worse things happen if he doesn't do them.
>Protagonist is from the future. Travels back in time to murder specific individuals before a sequence of events play out that essentially leaves life on the planet on the brink of total extinction.
>The antagonist is the literal descendant of a god who is near omnipotent and has the ability to become a doppelganger. He constantly gets the protagonist to fuck up with this ability.
>Protagonist has multiple possible routes leading to different endings depending on his decisions.
>Summons are incredibly powerful and are the best bet against mid to late game level bosses but there's a catch to acquiring them.
>Acquiring summons involves bonding with party members, getting their relationship level to 10. Once you max their relationship, you have to sacrifice them. They then become the summon. This decision is irreversible.
>Mature rated final fantasy with mature themes.
>Protagonist's current personality is total opposite of how he was as an adolescent. He is wise, he is cunning, he is well spoken, he manipulates easily, he is highly skilled, he is dangerous. He's sociopathic but also self-loathing and he never shares his true intentions with the party members.

>>714032348 (OP)
>Remove all meaningless fetch quests
>Remove all nameless NPCs interactions
>Focus on the party members and their interaction with each others
>Have 1 main storyline, and each characters have their own arcs
>Turn Based with innovations
A return to form, would I say.

>>714034095
>>714035991
16 writing is garbage.
And only you shitters would love it, or you're just a fucking shill.

>>714067683
>(Similar to FFX, if it ain't broke don't fix it.)
So, what, the series had been "broke" since IV?

>>714068859
16 writing is good
now what?

>>714032348 (OP)
do FF12 again

Aliens come to _____ and find power crystals, that the natives were unaware about. The natives then take the crystals and capture the aliens and try to take over alien worlds. The crystals shatter and the conquerors get stuck on alien planets. Your protagonists now have to figure out how to get back home.

Crystal Dynamics' scrapped sci-fi Final Fantasy "Project W" would be a great, refreshing departure from the typical fantasy settings. The Fallen in 16 would be a great jumping-off point for to introduce that. Imagine if the Fallen migrated to other planets during the Magitek War?
>>714068859
It didn't have that stilted and awkward anime dialogue that most JRPGs have, so it was good enough for me. I loved the use of archaic English.

>>714032348 (OP)
"The grand evil has awakened...", church is le bad and beach episode

Turn based

>>714035859
why do you even play jrpgs? Fucking chrono trigger had more than one hour of cutscenes

>>714038003
how has there still never been a game thats done this? I get FF not doing it since its so far removed from amano now, but what about another team at squeenix? Or any developer for that matter?

>>714043056
We had one (1) non sci-fi FF out of the last few decades.

>>714053140
isnt that just every team asano game?

>>714032348 (OP)
BG3-style turn-based combat.
Summons would be really cool in that style.

>>714064517
12 is just Matsuno rehashing Tactics Ogre and FFT for the 3rd time.

>>714032348 (OP)
Clive Rosfield wakes up in a dungeon
Suddenly Jack Garland bursts through the door and shout "WE HAVE TO KILL CHAOS"
The game is then a buddy-adventure where Clive and Jack travel the world to find and destroy Chaos, who is the brother of XVI's Ultima
Along the way they meet John Final Fantasy, protagonist of his game Final Fantasy XI, who has no lines of dialogue but joins the party because he needs to grind Merit points.
The final party member is Tyro from Final Fantasy Record Keeper, who fights by summoning other FF protags and joins up because he wants to resurrect Record Keeper after SE killed in favor of more 7R garbage.
The gameplay is ripped directly from FF1 with turn-based four dudes in a row combat. It even keeps the vancian magic system.
Narurally Keith David plays Chaos.

>>714077536
>Naturally Keith David plays Chaos.
I will play this game.

>>714076163
1. No it doesnt
2. Modern game cutscenes take enormous amounts of time and money that could be better spent in developing the actual game. You bringing up a 30 year old game is proof of this, just because it worked 30 years ago doesnt mean it will work today.

>FFX Combat and Sphere Grid
>Pre-rendered backgrounds
>Music by Uematsu

>>714036321
The issue with FF action combat in FFXV/FFXVI isn't that action combat is bad. It's that Square Enix devs make action games that both alienate their old fanbase and also insult fans of real action games. There's no target audience for FFXVI, while at least they now have the E33 audience.

>>714032348 (OP)
Simple. It needs 2 things.
>1: Do not trendchase
>2: Do not directly copy

More on #1: People loved old Final Fantasy because they were genuine passion projects. FF16 was created out of a desire to chase trends and capture an audience that wasn't going to like the game anyway. For #2, FF16 just copied DMC combat and slapped on FF14 systems and called it a day. FF14 2.x is a copy of World of Warcraft but with visual novel elements and coated with FF paint.

>>714078909
Both impossible, SE would never not chase trend, I'm sure they'll try something like >>714064716 said because of Elden Ring:Nightreign's "success" but deliver it when the market will be already saturated enough to bait people.

>>714077536
Do any FF games explore themes of reincarnation? That could be doable if there's precedent.

>>714035991
The opening to 16 was gutsy.

But the moment the brother was revealed to be alive, I stopped giving a shit. It was all downhill from there

>>714032348 (OP)
FFX but improved

>>714077536
holy fucking kino

>>714079078
>SE would never not chase trend
They're also usually a decade late so maybe they'll see Clair Obscur and then in 2035 we'll get a turn based FFXVIII

>>714077536
>The benevolent goddess calls upon her most courageous champions from across the multiverse to defeat Chaotic Ultimalion.
Kino of the highest order.

>>714032348 (OP)

Have said since FFXVI first released to lower sales in Asia, the next FF title they produce will be COMPLETELY Asian-coded by design. They want that market back more than anywhere else on the planet to sustain themselves locally.

>>714032348 (OP)
Go back to basics.

4 customer characters have to defeat the Chaos Lord. Craft a fun RPG around that.

>>714082794
>Asian-coded by design
visual design or gameplay design because I can't remember visually Asian-coded FF to be honest

>>714032348 (OP)
>Urban Fantasy
>Set in one massive magical city that's a fusion of FF-magic tropes and the real world
>Protag starts as a detective on a seemingly small case, which spirals into a massive story as he uncovers the plot
>4 niggas in a row gameplay, with active action like the new Yakuza RPG's
>Social Links between key characters (optimal main cast around 7-8 members, everyone gets a deep story for the player to learn)
>Canon romance for the protag. Something charming and mature. In essence, a competently executed Clive and Jill
Honestly, Square should just contact me and I'll help them make a GOTY

>>714032348 (OP)
>Turn-based ATB battles with 4 niggas in a row
>Explorable world map (Last FF to do this was FFIX--Let that sink in)
>Non-fucky job system
>HD-2D style of graphics

>>714083306
X was just southeast Asia: the game.

>>714032348 (OP)
Baldurs gate meets FF Tactics. That would 100% print.
First 15% of FF16 combat was amazing, make the game soulslike like that.
Id also be happy with a Rebirth clone and FF16 tier story.
Unrelatedly, I want a Solosta FF1 mod. Two would fombine amazingly.

>>714057487
Shit he didn't answer you.

>>714064716
Fuck yes! Square, hire this man!

>>714084010
>Turn-based ATB
Revolting, arguably one of the most dogshit gameplay loops ever conceived

>Turn based combat
>Futuristic setting
>Towns with Witcher 3 tier side missions
>In depth weapon customization
>Hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits

>>714043056
I have played FF VIII about 4-5 times, but never seen this location

>>714082794
I liked 16 also its pretty funny how EOPs assumed the main heroine was a rape victim or something as she was captured when in the jap audio she explicitly mentions the Iron Kingdom changed their mind in terms of her treatment when she awakened as a dominant not long after being captured.

>>714085354
i believe it’s the train station near galbadia gatden

>>714084328
>Baldurs gate meets FF Tactics.
I've been thinking about this a lot since BG3 came out.

1.FF job with a more tabletop inspired design to the abilities they get. Actual movement abilities, weapon type proficiencies, reigning in the numbers a bit so there are actual strategic considerations for small stat changes instead of blind "number bigger" and everything becoming noise
2. more freeform multiclassing. use a point system for adding extra skills instead of Tactics' limited slots. Like, your character level is 30 so you have 30 ability points, you leveled Dragoon a bit so you can equip Jump for 5 points, up to level 3 White Magic spells from leveling White Mage for 20 points, etc.
3. characters have a few unique abilities, possibly just limit breaks but could be expanded. MAYBE have the option of generic recruits you can customize like Tactics but a set group of named characters feels more mainline FF. either way, have non-human races with unique bonuses/drawbacks
4. out of combat exploration and social skills. blows my mind that 0 JRPGs have picked this up from tabletop role playing outside of some VERY basic stuff like FF5 Thief's Find Passages

final fantasy 16 improve combat with party members and multiple weapons for each party member
Space opera setting or cyberpunk setting or going back to the medieval fantasy stuff

>>714032348 (OP)
complete company death

>>714087092
>>714064716

>>714032348 (OP)
make a finished game that is the product of what the developers want and not what they think the audience wants

>>714032759
Nobody asked you, jeet.

>>714032348 (OP)
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth combat system.

Otherwise they can do what they want. Square Enix always delivers.

>>714049880
>Crazy long story that they keep adding to with expansions
I too can create a crazy "long" story by padding it with fetch quests and filler dialogues.
>Relic weapon quest autism?
at least you are honest that these are garbage
>Cool raid dungeons?
what cool dungeon? on rail trash trash boss trash trash boss?
raids are dog shit outside of ivalice
trials only exist in a vacuum and are all style no substance, which perfectly describes ffxvi.

>>714081523
>>714077536
>Final Fantasy Gaiden: On the Wings of Her Heavenly Brigade
Alright boys, let's get cookin'.

>>714071781
I loved it when Joshua came back we get no justication at all of what he was doing for the past 13 years. Guy had his own personnal spy network but nah let's just allow Clive to be the most miserable person on the plannet for 13 years for obsolutely no reason and never adress it.
There's literally hundreds of plot point that are just as stupid, this story is unsalvagable.

>>714083558
What exactly was immature about Clive's and Jill's slow-burn romance?

3 gameplay modes
16's action gameplay, 7's turn based, and tactics
best of all worlds

>>714032348 (OP)
I'm not one to actively campaign against Yoshida, I don't like what I played of XIV but I accept it might just not be my cup of tea, but XVI was so bad that I am not playing another game with him or CBU3 involved. The absolute minimum I would require from the game is for a different team to work on it.

>>714087409
nah no medieval
real talk final fantasy sells the best when it's modern ish or space opera, like 15, and 7

>>714032348 (OP)
I just hope they don't make half the game boring filler that only exist to make the game longer. FF16 could have been a solid action game is they didn't make twice as long as it should be.

I feel dread when there's a really good level in FF16 and FF14 because I know that mean I'll have to pay for it with hours of fetch quest. I realize game can't be hype all the time and down time are needed but those two games have the lowest low of anything I ever played. FF17 can be action or turn based, scifi or fantasy, it's all fine as long as they make the game high quality and cut anything that doesn't meet that standard. I don't mind if the game is only 30 hours longs, just don't waste my time.

>>714032348 (OP)
All they have to do is offer a game that pander to FF fans, add pretty girls, and just create a mix of action and turn based. It's not hard.

It’s secretly FFVII Remake part 3.

>>714032348 (OP)
I have one... don't.

>>714090590
The fact that the vast majority of it took place off-screen over five years.

>>714085979
in english it's pretty clear she wasn't raped either, they find her disgusting or whatever because culturally they hate eikons, at MOST maybe implying they might've been about to when she awakened her power but more likely it was just from the normal kinds of excessive abuse slaves are shown to be taking in that world

>>714095531
Eh, I thought the payoff towards the end was well-done. Keep in mind, Clive and Jill were enslaved during their early teens, when you typically begin to experiment with love and sexuality. Their lifestyles after that point revolved around slave labor and war fighting, you can't really blame them for not knowing how to be intimate with one another.

Behemoth Waifu (monk)

>>714098597
My biggest issue was that five years was probably too long of a time skip considering how little relevant plot development actually happened in those five years aside from just setting up the new Hideaway. Five whole years of nothing happening aside from freeing Bearers apparently. The new Hideaway could have probably been established in six months.

>>714033996
Banger ost like FFXV
Replayable dungeons
Not medieval
Not turn based
Minigames. Why FFXVI didn't have fishing?
Theres no need for hacknslash as FFXVI but neither the slug that FFXV was

>>714099835
>Kupka still simping over Benedikta five years after her death
Nothing feels like five whole years transpired. The least they could have done was introduce Mid before the timeskip and have her actually be an adult afterward, but they didn't even do that.

>>714032348 (OP)
>ARPG like FF7 Remake with ATB
>Materia System makes a return
>Gambit system just like XII
>Jobs return

>>714032348 (OP)
Moomba party member

>>714032348 (OP)
Stick a fucking fork in it. Square Enix shouldn't exist anymore. Modern Square Enix is an insult to the memory of Squaresoft.

>>714036310
>>714036412
It's a mercy to forget. Those were your words jack

You have gotta be a little crazy to change the world.

YOU KNOW ITS RUDE TO NOT LAUGH AT A PIRATES JOKES
Yeah well your jokes suck.

The game was fucking SOULLL the characters were believable in a way square has failed in decades to convey.
The combat was great.

Jack is unironically the greatest jrpg protagonist ever made and we know why we can't get more of that. Normies can't self insert as a gay silver haired weeb who broods. It was WAY too masculine for a jrpg audience to handle. They dam near felt violated by Jack. Gg.

>>714102728
I hope you would still be mourning the love of your life five years after she was beheaded.

On the topic of Mid however, I absolutely agree she should've been properly introduced earlier. She's supposedly mentioned in a side quest in the old Hideaway, but I'm pretty sure I skipped it out of eagerness to progress the story.

>>714064517
15 is the fastest selling ff and the 4 highest selling ff all have a modern more scifi aesthetic like 7 and 8 and 15 and 10
15 mixes in classic fantasy ff aesthetic to its modern aesthetic too

>>714032759
Final Fantasy Dragon Quarter?

A real Final Fantasy 7 remake.

>>714077536
we want ff17 to sell
not flop
every game clive is in died or dies

outer space

>>714032348 (OP)
Turn based, four niggas in a row with big tiddie bitches and small tiddie bitches

They should remake picrel

its simple
Takatsugu Nakazawa is in charge

the 4 highest selling FF games all had him on the combat system

>>714111092
There's no one based enough left in Square Enix to do it justice.

>>714032348 (OP)
I think we've waited long enough for a FF8 spiritual successor. make it a mix of ATB and action system with super autistic and unintuitive progression. It should follow FF8 story beats and have Squall-like MC. story should be easy to follow on the surface but get progressively more complex and confusing, just like in 8 make it dreamlike leaving space for bunch of crazy interpretations and fan theories. game has a calendar system like persona and 2 different timelines.

>>714032348 (OP)
Turn based
Return to FF4/6/9 aesthetics
World map
Romance
Party members with set roles
No Debra Wilson.

>>714032348 (OP)
Just make it like E33 but instead of art and death theme, do crystals and gods.

>>714111603
>No Debra Wilson
She turned in a powerhouse performance as Joshua in XVI.

I don't think FF needs to be turn based, and if they want to keep going action for cinematic gameplay experience that's fine. Just need to do like 20x better than XV and XVI at having RPG aspects to the combat and skills and choice. If they CAN'T do that in an action gameplay, then sure lets go back to a turn-based framework.

I had an idea in my head after playing Unicorn Overlord of an FF game with "programmable" encounters, but you can switch your party through different jobs like FFXIII Paradigm Shifts, and I feel like that has potential.

But what XVII actually needs to succeed has very little to do with it's gameplay. What it needs to succeed is colorful party members (not all one-note wearing black like the XV boy band), a full party (not Clive and random tag-alongs like XVI), and a charming engaging antagonist (lets go back to the FF greats like Kefka, Sephiroth, Kuja, hell even Emet Selch for recency). The characters will carry the marketing and sales. Get a good cast and throw them into a fantasy adventure against a compelling villain, and people will play it. XV and XVI both fucking sucked in these aspects. XIII had half of a good party, but also failed in the other parts.

>>714036090
>and do whatever they feel is best
you mean they'll do it... THEIR WAAAAAAY?

>>714111092
This is a really good game. Probably even better than Zelda at the time.

It is kind of shame that the series died off, because it had great potential.

>>714032348 (OP)
I don't care as long as it isn't turn-based. The last thing I want to do is mindlessly spam the X-button for countless hours. You had might as just make the game a movie at that point.

>>714052191
>you didn’t play the game
YOU didn’t play the game. You watched YouTube videos about the shitty dialogue and think that means he’s a good character.

>>714032348 (OP)
I'd refuse to let the entirety of the old guard have any input on the game aside from Nomura, who's relegated to making 1 whacky party member design. 1 boss design. And 1 generic enemy design.

>>714114204
nomura's generic enemy designs are pretty good though

FF12 again but with more than 12 jobs and combos added to the combat system to make it a bit more engaging

>>714078073
I can tell I was counting unskippable story sections and you were just counting FMVs, but I do agree on your second point.

>>714032348 (OP)
I unironically dont care about FF after playing Clair Obscure.

>>714032348 (OP)
to have a art style that looks like the water paint art

>>714116090
For me clair obviously mogs anything FF since the ps2 days but the 'its french' aesthetic got really annoying
and 'cool' fights were held back by being Nier:A copies where everything has to be a 'paint brush' or whatever so every enemy is some wooden looking puppet even the candlemaster and the axoms.
10/10 game but I get it, you guys are french and it's about painting. Nier was way better at this since machines could be anything, a giant industrial saw holding behemoth or a cutesy 2 arm 2 legged robot.
Renoir was more of an anime badass than anything FF has delivered in decades though, the cane + coat draped across his shoulders with scars on his face, soul..

>>714035991
Shut up you Yoshit piss drinking clown.
16 is garbage and it flopped like the filth it is.

>>714032348 (OP)
Turn based mmo is the only way ill buy it

>>714117583
It’s two years old and still making you seethe. It’s a win in my book.

>>714117036
Visages wasnt a wooden looking puppet

>>714032348 (OP)
>Give your ideas
Ok, ok. Hear me out. This might sound crazy.
But what if you make the game Turn Based?
And you know, I'm not done yet. What if, just what if. Try to conceptualize, that we also include an explorable overworld?
Like what if we actually design the gameplay to actually play like Final Fantasy?

Honestly they should do a FF1 throwback
Make your own character, explore an open world of different kingdoms while looking for the four crystals, form your own party from the NPCs you meet, have jobs that upgrade into new ones as you get further into the game.

Do for Final Fantasy what BOTW did for Zelda, trannies here can cry about open world games all day long but that shit is crack to normies and will sell millions

>>714117742
Where that two year sales update?

Clive is a whiny worthless bitch.
Slave cuck. Got raped by his gay masters. Unlike Gutts couldn't even get back at his Donovan.

Tactics Mainline. Plot Twist? It's a Tactics ADVANCE entry. FFTA3 being the next mainline FF with all of the whimsy and joy of FFTA2, countless more rekoeition-esque sim elements, every single clan member is customizable, more than 100 Jobs to choose from divvied out across all of the Ivalice races, PvP/Trade/etc. multiplayer systems, monster capture and collecting, and even custom bases. Reduce the story(and most especially the egregious, costly cutscenes) to only pivotal points in the narrative and make damn sure that the game is primarily sprite art.

>>714110217
The love of Kupka's life was cheating on him with every other man in Valisthea. Sad.
And yeah, its been five years. Obviously its completely normal for people to grieve for a certain amount of time when they lose a loved one, but behaving like it happened last week when it happened five years ago is wild.

>>714118884
She was only in kahoots with Barnabas as far as we know, which Kupka didn't, despite being a close ally.

>>714117881
>Visages
and that's why he was the GOAT. I think mainly it was just WAY too french. Like I have been to france and paris, I am not a hater it's cool but the beauty in Jrpgs is the wide variety of culture and aesthetics.
It's a 10/10 dont get me wrong, and it was unironically funny which is extremely rare for a video game to be, I love Monoco, I love Esquie , I love the Gestrals being fucking terrified of Golgra especially when they hid the floating arena and got you to fight for her. I literally laughed out loud. It's a small complaint, 'being too french' but when you are this well made there aren't many things to criticize.

I also feel vindicated after 20 years, I had 2 normie friends love E33 and I am able to say to them, thats why I used to love FF so much, now you understand.

>>714116090
There is no guarantee that the next Clair Obscur will be as banger. There will never be something as good as E33. The stake is too high.

>>714113517
>posted it again award

completely fresh setting, closer to spirits within but old four niggas in a row gameplay and cut off the arpg aspects. obviously its not working, so returning to the roots is important. the space setting could be anything, i'd focus on a war of two races, one which used to be enslaved by the other.

>>714123753
>There will never be something as good as E33.
I fucking hate zoomers so much it's unreal

>>714032348 (OP)
Make it a school setting like FF8 and type 0

>>714057335
>confusing protagonist with main character
retard

>>714080009
FFX