Thread 714038670

Why does this scare so many people on /v/?

CRT's are out
only troons like them now

i was there 3000 years ago and had a crt, i still miss 1600x1200 flat triny

>>714039390
>DUDE trust me trust me those weak-armed faggot trannies are TOTALLY lifting 200 pound CRTs with their weak little twig arms
No one is falling for this

I don't mind CRTs but the people who use them are incredibly insufferable. It's like a red flag to me at this point.

>>714039789
they scooped up all the cool shrek/cars/disney princess and the occasional pvm

>>714038670 (OP)
AAAHHHH A PHONE

>>714039789
>200lbs
lol delusional

>>714038670 (OP)
It attracts smash players, you don't want to be around one when they haven't showered in years

>>714039974
It's an exaggeration but you get the point

CRTs don't scare me but they remind me of my crippling back pain. I got like 15 stacked up in my mom's room where she used to sleep since she banned me from getting rid of *any* TVs. This is because she grew up poor. So now she's dead and I got more TVs than living family members. I should open a museum.

My oldest is a ghetto RCA from the 40s that looks like the one Rolf had in Ed, Edd and Eddy. It has five (5!) channels selectable on a dial and consumes more power than my die press. It consumes more power searching for digital TV channels (using an Obama DTV box) than what my Tesla uses on a quarter mile run. It is black and white and I have my xbox (original) hooked up to it. Games in black and white is shitty but it's how I grew up so I'm used to it.

>>714040041
i remember watching the sonic TV show as a 4 year old on a black and white tv
i wonder if this gave me a different experience

man RCA used to make the TIGHTEST fucking shit i bet that thing could literally kill a man if it fell on someone

>>714038670 (OP)
It does generate X-Ray radiation.
It's blocked if the tv is well made but it's there but being blocked.

>>714040230
it did lol
well not a full death but my uncle slipped a disc trying to move it, and wished for death. had to be carried out of the basement on a stretcher. I don't think it can exit the basement now without a crane.

I want one.
Where do you even get one?

>>714038670 (OP)
Meleefags ensured that CRTs shall forever be uncool.

>>714039974
Its 148 pounds. Which is a lot compared to a modern tv.
https://www.crutchfield.com/S-2Bn6qN2mE5R/p_158KD30XS9/Sony-KD-30XS955.html

>>714039789
Have you not seen most trannies? Their built like linebackers and can probably one hand that tube tv

>>714040501
estate sales
craigslist
facebook marketplace

Goodwill categorically refuses to resell them now, if it goes to Goodwill it will end up recycled because the government pays them for each pre-digital TV that doesn't have digital energy management controls. And ebay is all scalpers. The best places are still estate sales where a very exhausted, exasperated and desperate family will pay you to take their TVs because it's $15-45 per unit for a legal clean disposal. It's like disposing of a mattress, used oil or smoke detectors.

>>714040729
Most trannies suffer terribly from osteoporosis and are extremely weak creatures due to HRT destroying their bone density. This is because most trannies are MTFs and not FTMs where what you say is true.

>videogames?

>>714038670 (OP)
>scare
I wish I had a really nice one but the price of them the last 10 years exploded. I played on one of those Trinitron's everyone recommended back in the day and it was really nice.

>>714040828
Most trannies are 6 foot 3 and have broad shoulders.

>>714041035
No they aren't lol

>thread about TVs
>the discussion immediately shifts to being about trannies
never change /v/

pcfags allergic to anything they cant steal and pirate

>>714041209
trannies are the only ones who use tranny tech like OLED or CRTs

>>714041241
kindly return to >>>/b/ if you want to troll

>>714041762
>thinks I'm trolling
it is obvious who makes these threads
ywnbaw

>>714038670 (OP)
>HD CRTs
The worst of both worlds. PC CRT monitors are sharper, cheaper, weigh less and can do more resolutions.

>>714041241
most trannies use LCDs though

>>714038670 (OP)
That's a tiny TV, and low resolution. Why keep one around for old 2d games, when you can get a reasonably solid result with filters?

>>714042304
>1080p
>low resolution

>>714042338
Yes, it's low resolution. This isn't 2002.

>>714042338
HD CRTs display 1080i, not 1080p.

>>714040024
but ultimate players don't play on CRTs

>>714040330
holy shit your poor uncle
how much does that thing weight?

>>714042386
shut the fuck up

>>714042338
lol
>>714042508
this

fuCKING ZOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>714042663
Sorry. I'll stick with shaders, and my monitor is 4x that resolution.

>>714039974
The heaviest (and also largest) CRT ever made, the Sony PVM-4300, weighs 440 lbs. A lot of 30+ inch widescreen consumer HD CRT TVs like in OP's pic can weigh up to or over 200 lbs.

>have to get rid of an old, dead TV
>can't throw it in the dumpster (legally)
>can't bring it to most landfills
>can't bring it to recycling centers
>last two options: ...without paying a fee, holy fuck
>end up having to pay someone to haul it to a place several counties away willing to take the damn thing
>(who knows what they did with it, at least it's out of my hands)
For argument's sake I'll accept that CRTs are amazing and wonderful and special and magical and the best thing ever and and and

until it breaks and you have to get rid of it.

So what's the point of a CRT again? It's low resolution, blurry, the colors suck, they're heavy as fuck, all of the good ones are expensive now, and because they're 20+ years old the capacitors are starting to go bad.

>>714043136
>440lbs
>43"
>480p
>look at my monitor
>91lbs with the stand attached, like 45 without
>55"
>4k
>but not le retro

>>714043471
theyre nice for /vr/ games

>>714042705
Filterfags, I....

>>714038670 (OP)
I LOVE TV
I LOVE TV
I LOVE TV
I LOVE TV
I LOVE TV

>>714042705
Doesn't look as good as the real thing

>>714043251
Most manufacturers now have programs where they will give you FedEx label so you can ship it back to them for recycling.

Thats modern tvs though. Old CRTs you just throw in the woods.

>>714043721
>no indication of what filters were used
Sounds like a legit argument.

>>714043471
CRTs are only optimal for 6th Gen and older + Wii. Everything newer is better play on a 4K OLED with a a good dedicated upscaler if needed.

>>714043847
Find me a shader that matches the right

>>714043907
6th gen looks amazing emulated at hd or 4k. Even on the ps2 textures had more detail than could be seen through the low res output. I don’t agree besides for nostalgia sake

I love my monitor

>>714043972
Find me the will to care how accurate it is. Shaders look good enough, and a CRT is useless for 3D games. LCD/OLED plays both 2D and 3D well.

>>714038670 (OP)
do zoomers really think 1080i is full hd?

>>714044224
Yeah, I meant with original console hardware. 4K emulation of older games with HDR looks miles better on a 4K OLED.

>>714044293
thats pretty good geometry for a CRT

Remember. The weather ALWAYS STICKS TOGETHER!!!

>>714044224
>Even on the ps2 textures had more detail than could be seen through the low res output
kek no they don't. The emulator is upscaling the exact output of the textures on the console that you would see. quadrupling the pixels doesn't give it more detail

>>714044589
Is 480i SD?

>>714045186
Yes

>>714038670 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XzNh5U8Jzw

Cause it costs too much

>>714045130
It’s not upscaling its internal resolution. It literally says that

>>714044509
No it doesn't look good enough and its not even smooth enough, youre a poser stick to new games

>>714045440
clear as crystal on my 165 Hz 1440p LED panel

>>714045440
>muh motion clarity
>muh 60fps slideshow

>>714039789
>/v/irgin nu-males thinks a 50 lbs CRT is heavy
grim

>>714045531
Get your eyes checked

>>714043136
>up to or over 200 lbs
Mom would not allow me to just buy her a new TV. So when she passed 10+ years ago I was ok that 32 inch CRT has to go. If I had not been at my peak gym bro sort of level at the time I doubt I could have got it out of the house to the god damn street.
just massive dead weight with no way to grab it. I only had to pick it up off a stand and over to a rolling cart on the back porch, then push it to the street for clean up day pick up. Still was a small war of man vs tech. The old pos dish washer was easily 1/10th the work..
Out of all the tech that has come and gone the one I don't miss at all is the CRT TV sets and PC monitors.

>>714045726
You know a zoomer would have paid you $200 for that and picked it up right

>>714045726
oh 10 years ago sorry i'm retarded. pretty worthless still back then
>>714045410
the 3D resolution being higher doesn't make the textures higher resolution. The textures are still the same resolution as they were on a CRT but scaled up.

>>714045683
Nobody is going to actually be able to notice that difference while playing. Getting autistically close with a camera doesn't prove the point you think it does.

>>714045683
what is the source of this test? that's actually really cool

>>714045813
It had lived decades as mom's only TV and had burn in from CC and the back ports didn't work right anymore etc. She was only able to use it by way of a VHS loop past from the cable signal.
One of those classic son vs parent struggles of please just let me buy you a new..... no!! I like this one I know how it works etc. Pretty much everyone runs into this sooner or later with a parent or grand parent.

>>714044293
imagine modern crts if technology had continued to improve
I hate jews and yellow jews so much it's unreal

>>714045965
You never noticed how difficult it is to read moving text on an LCD? Envy.

i HAD this tv but left it for my sister when i moved out. My mom got mad and took it apart and threw it to the curb.

>>714045880
Think of it this way: if you have a game with 1080p textures do you think you could make out all the detail of them if you set your render resolution to 240p? I’m not saying emulators add more detail to the textures I’m saying a higher resolution can reveal more of the detail that was already there. And this is a fact so you just look dumb arguing it, there’s been countless threads on /v/ showcasing this and YouTube videos, or you could just try it yourself. Like fuck even the DS has games that reveal tons of detail at a higher resolution

>>714045965
you're on so much cope, i've been playing on top of the line crt monitors for pc games since 2012, was on blurbusters before they were releasing 120hz TN panels pretty much.

the difference is insane, the only reason you're saying otherwise is you haven't experienced it.

i used to keep up with invite level cs players after only playing the game for about a year and i would say it was strictly my reaction time + i was on a crt

>>714039789
i had one wega i got it must have been 3X inches and i found it on the side of the road and it somehow instilled enough drive in me to carry it 3 blocks, when i ditched it myself for space reasons i could barely lift it out the door with help

>>714038670 (OP)
All i want is a CRT monitor that is useful for gaming in the modern age due to motion clarity, or more specifically how they help your eyes track that alien UFO on the blur busters test. And the Sony GDM-FW900 is far too expensive. These kinds of TVs are a waste of space unless used for an arcade MAME cabinet i suppose. I'm not particularly all that interested of whether you think the scanlines and even screen defects make pixelshit look better. It's the actual clarity in motion which is hard to replace.

>>714038670 (OP)
Coz it makes their 10 thousand dollar OLED utterly redundant.

>>714046058
>if technology had continued to improve
There wasn't much room for improvement by the end of it's run. The Sony line of Trinitron CRT monitors where all peak CRT. Think of it like microwaves now. Other than the Inverter versions that let you run a true lower power vs just pulse the high power there isn't really anywhere else to go with Microwave tech. It's maxed out.

>>714045683
>60fps
Look how choppy that shit is. Poors look at that as a target framerate?

>>714038670 (OP)
>all scratched up
no thanks

>>714046365
I had a FW900 and sold it ages ago, it was alright but the variable dot pitch was annoying with text

>>714046435
>There wasn't much room for improvement
how about the geometry?, you think there was nothing else to do because the tech was shot in the back of the head

>>714038670 (OP)
I'm 35 now, almost 36, you clearly haven't lived around CRTs. Just the memory of having to move one yourself, feeling the bottom edges cut into your hand as you pray to god that you don't trip on the power cord that slipped free from your tired hands, that alone should make you say "fuck CRT".
In my case it was more me carrying it and younger relatives kept on running up to me asking questions or pretending to trip me.
Pros:
>makes retro games look fucking great
>low latency by default
>hard glass face (easy to clean too)
>great blacks

Cons:
>uses a fuckload more power than modern screens
>weighs a lot, meaning you can't really just put it anywhere
>is thick depth-wise, meaning you can't really just put it anywhere
>maxes out at 1080i, the only screens that go higher have a worse refresh rate / flickering issue, or just fake it because "pixels" are just a suggestion for CRTs
>practically goes exponential in weight and size based on how big the screen is, which makes it even harder to put in your house or actually set anywhere because everything's cramped and/or made of particleboard these days
>fuckload of pixel bleed and other technical issues I don't remember the name of
>can't have anything magnetic nearby, including speakers
>degausser quality varies wildly
>cropped edges by design
>no modern connections unless using an adapter or hacking your shit together yourself
>costs a ton, relatively, unless you get lucky at a thrift store or find one used online
>resolution and refresh rate are inversely proportional, and you NEED a high refresh rate or you get nasty-ass flicker effects
>wide-ass bezels
>implodes into a fuckload of tiny glass shards if it ever breaks
And in 202X, everything modern that isn't shit-tier has better specs across the board than anything CRT ever offered.

>>714045186
Yeah so is 240p. 1080i isn't full HD though

>>714039943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deVlcKhNLLk

>>714047940
Surely this is a joke.

>>714046340
I get what you're saying and I'm saying you are incorrect. But only when it comes to ps2. That definitely happens with 3DS but thats because it's a 240p device that released in like 2011. I've never seen a ps2 game with HD textures without a texture pack. Can you show me an example on ps2?

>>714046356
>you're on so much cope, i've been playing on top of the line crt monitors for pc games since 2012
kek zoomer you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I played on CRT monitors before you were born and there's a reason we threw that shit out.

>>714047034
What about geometry? It's a vacuum tube.

>>714043471
cred on /v/ amongst people with overall bad taste.

>>714046030
testufo.com

>>714048265
magnets controlled by microprocessors in real time, I don't know, I'm not an electronic engineer in charge of research and development with a practical infinite budget

>>714047034
Plasmas were supposed to be the innovation of CRT tech. Except they just ended up being a downgrade as far as motion clarity and response times were concerned. But they improved it in other areas. But really the whole responsiveness of CRTs is the only reason some of us are looking back at this old display tech like it still has a real place in the market.

>>714045813
Not 10 years ago.

>>714045813
>zoomer
>picking up a CRT
>with string beany arms and a sunken chest

>>714048031
https://youtu.be/fDSWw0CcJl4?t=11m38s
And this is after the image getting stepped all over from compression.

>>714045683
>60fps
Pathetic.

>>714048903
Plasmas were so fucking good. I can’t explain why but they just look the best to me of all display tech, they just look more warm and inviting some how

>>714038670 (OP)
>Heavy and unwieldy
>Makes that awful electric hum
>Prone to breaking down faster than flatscreens in my experience
I'd buy a modern crt if I knew how to despite the flaws to be honest

>>714050297
>Prone to breaking down faster than flatscreens in my experience
That is a fllatscreen. You mean flatpanels.

>>714050297
>>Prone to breaking down faster than flatscreens in my experience
CRTs are still working 30 years later tho

>>714050297
>>714050820
As far i seen, durability seems to be like
90's/2000 stuff > 2020+ stuff >>> 80's stuff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2004-2015 stuff
Chink caps, lead free solder, shit overall construction, CFL lamps that fucking die...

>>714050037
60FPS on a CRT looks better than 120+ FPS on a LCD

>>714051305
No, it really doesn't. It still looks choppy. 60fps is pure poorfag gaming.

>>714051796
Yes, it really does. It looks smoother than 240fps on an LCD and not choppy at all, are you blind?

>>714050820
They "work" but they display signs of aging like poor or missing colors, limited brightness, bad geometry, or failing speakers.
It's not healthy for electronics to sit around unused for long periods of time. The components inside them are more likely to fail when you start pumping electricity through them after not being used for decades.
I've had 4 CRTs fail between me and my boomer family members who refused to upgrade until absolutely necessary. They're not eternal and are reaching their natural limit.

>>714048126
i was born in 94 and my parents bought a $7k computer the year afterwards which we kept until 2003 (and i've had the monitor from my whole life), there was only about 9 years there when i used lcds so really stop playing yourself here lol

>>714038670 (OP)
I'm so fucking happy CRTs died out. They sucked more dick then OP and your mother combined.

>>714038670 (OP)
I do not care about CRT
I hate CRTroons because they're obnoxious

>>714051875
I could ask you the same question. CRTs don't add frames and make the animation smoother. Even when we were using CRTs heavily, higher framerates were sought. You'd drop down to lower resolutions for 100fps in a lot of cases. You're a zoomer who bought a cheap CRT (or a TV, same thing) and thinks 60Hz is all people played at.
60Hz is also flickervision at high resolutions, and painful to use.

>>714038670 (OP)
I used to be in that craze, but CRTs just look worse than modern HDTVs. The scanlines hide details. CRTs only had notably better color when compared to earlier LCDs. You can always just up the saturation to your liking, btw.

>>714043721
>>714043972
>BLURRY IS GOOD
The same argument we get for shoehorned upscalers in todays games, actually.

>>714055380
CRTranny psychosis aside, there is an argument to be made for filters and real CRTs for 2d games. The art was designed to have the jagged edges smoothed. But that's where my agreement with them ends. CRTrannies swear 3D games are meant to be played at 480p60 or worse, and that 3D has a native resolution.

>>714040992

Not really. They're everywhere on fb marketplace, often for cheap or free. You don't really need a premium model either but even those aren't ridiculous yet. Might be in like 5 years. Depends on area of course. Don't use ebay and don't use it as a price reference either

>>714046435
>The Sony line of Trinitron CRT monitors where all peak CRT
Yeah and they did not look like that cheap ass SDTV

>>714038670 (OP)
That one doesn't, but this one absolutely terrifies me.

>>714055539
Old polygonal games look better at a lower resolution. PS1 games look like complete vomit at 4K.

>>714056758
PSX games render in a faggy way, so it can never look right. PS2 games, on the other hand, benefit from traditional resolution increases. Those same PSX games look better if their PC ports support higher resolutions.

>>714057079
I disagree. Old polygonal PC games also look like dogshit at high resolutions.

>>714057126
They look better. You just can see the low poly assets. You think hiding the visuals makes it look better, and it just makes you see less. Smooth edges with no shimmer and being able to distinguish onscreen objects goes a long way.

>>714057126
I'm samefagging, but the 3dfx age pretty much forced them to design higher quality assets, because while the PSX was running at 240p, we were going into 640x480 and 800x600, with 1024x768 and beyond right around the corner with the TNT2/GeForce/etc.

>>714057274
The fact that you have trouble understanding the fact that certain types of media is designed to be viewed a certain way makes me come to the conclusion that you must suffer from some sort of debilitating mental disorder like autism.

>>714057539
>everything has to be done the way I think it should
>that makes you autistic
The Zinc V.

>>714057567
You can do whatever you want. You can watch Mulholland Drive on your phone. Just know that Lynch is cursing you from the grave.

>>714038670 (OP)
Pretty much everything I'd want to play on a CRT is in 4:3 by default, why would I want a widescreen CRT?

>>714057638
So, what resolution should Tomb Raider definitively be run at?

I have a 14 inch CRT TV that I've had since '94 and it still works.
They sure don't make them like they used to.

>>714057697
I wouldn't know, I don't like Tomb Raider. I'm guessing it's probably lower than 4K.

>>714057779
So you have no HARD DATA

>>714038670 (OP)
trannies made them cringe to own

>>714038670 (OP)
I don't get the opportunity to play on my CRT as much as I'd like as is, since I have to have everything hooked up to my computer to stream.

>>714047940
>that entire episode
Forget "couldn't have been made today", I'm surprised this was allowed to happen even back then.

>>714058969
He wasn't wrong, though. I'd rather be raped than have a kid.

>>714040041
that's a pretty fucking funny AI shitpost 2bh lol

>>714043489
some older media looks better on those because it was made to be watched on a CRT. playing old games and watching classic anime would be a blast on that thing.

>>714038670 (OP)
if I can't have one, then no one should