Thread 714054305

This game was considered ball-bustingly difficult back in 2011.

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The bossfights were I don't know anybody that got stuck in undead burg

>>714054305 (OP)
>showcases how retarded the ai is
>still gets hit

>>714054305 (OP)
>make a webm to showcase how a game is easy
>fail to hit a single enemy, get shot by a crossbow bolt
what did he mean by this

>>714054639
>The bossfights were
Sure...

>>714054952
>needs an overpowered meta build to beat a straightforward boss like Artorias
This is only embarrassing for you, not the game.

the issue was that in 2011 most popular games were very on the rails and starting to get easier and easier. Uncharted, god of war, bioshock, mafia 2, batman games, etc. all those games practically played themselves.
then comes dark souls, creates a new control layout (no game had r1 hits, l1 blocks not one), has no quests or questlog. i also think the series only went really mainstream with ds3, ds1 was still a "niche" game at release for sure. The vaati lore videos made it 100x more popular but those came years after release.

>>714054667
>>714054943
>>714055157
>all this cope

>>714054305 (OP)
>doood look at all those delayed attack animations. Fromsoft has changed...

>>714054639
>The bossfights were
lmfao, no this meme started with bloodborne

>>714055198
Yeah, it's to do with what other games were like at the time. The idea that enemies would all attack at once instead of waiting and doing it one at a time was shocking. The idea that healing had an animation instead of being something that you could do from a menu with time paused was shocking. The idea that you had a stamina bar so you couldn't attack endlessly was shocking.
Most games back then were incredibly dumbed down. Devs saw the Wii was successful and decided that they wanted their games to appeal to people who'd never touched a controller before. Dark Souls actually punishing you for doing something stupid was strange and unexpected.

>>714054305 (OP)
It didn't have bonfires every 5 steps

>>714054639
I didn't even find the Undead burg for a month while I was playing

>>714055198
>Uncharted, god of war, bioshock
All of those are harder than DS1 on their highest difficulty. No idea why you picked Bioshock of all fucking things as an example of a game that plays itself either.

>>714054305 (OP)
>enemies are not dying just by walking around them
Yeah, that shit was hard. Compared modern iterations like elden ring.

>>714055423
very true, button mashing and QTEs were at their very peak in 2008-2012 era games

>>714054952
So they WERE right about calling this a JRPG

>>714054305 (OP)
Just because it says prepare to die on the cover doesn't mean it's hard. The ragequit montages from people that skipped dialogue, didn't read item descriptions and made shitty builds with zero versatility were cool though.

>>714055918
prepare to die only got added in the pc version 2012 (which needed an fps fix/mod to work properly). just being a smartass.

>>714054305 (OP)
DS1>>>>>>>DS3>>>>>>>>DS2

>>714054952
>Armor actually protects you
>poise exists
Dann Dark Souls is so good
How'd they fumble 2 so much?

>>714054305 (OP)
Pyromancy really trivializes like 99% of this game

>>714054952
>armor actually works
How did we go from this to rollslop?

>>714054305 (OP)
>doesn't understand that kiting was not ubiquitous knowledge in a time where smart phones and widespread internet connectivity were not a universal constant
ah, I see you're underage. technically speaking, no games are "hard" and very few activities actually are "challenging," but you're still in your ego taming phase so I don't expect you to know that. faggot. :)

demon's souls invented a new genre. of course what seemed difficult at the time is now considered easy. the challenge levels in modern mario are way harder than the levels in SMB1

>>714056597
Definitely, as does magic. But a new player (exp if they pick pyro) would barely use either, esp 2011. Demon souls players knew from the start how op magic was.

>>714056705
>new genre
congradulations, you're just a big an underage faggot as OP

>>714056315
This but swap ds2 with ds3

>>714056712
pyro is far more busted than magic because you need literally no stat other than maybe atunement to make it good.

>>714056786
name another game in the roll souls genre that released before DES

>>714056850
Severance: Blade of Darkness It's better than souls.

>>714056850
>hurr durr roll soles
well since we're defining genres by singular mechanical features by your ignorant stipulations, that will be literally impossible. how about you don't be such a giant retarded underage faggot? ah, right, that's also impossible!

>>714055581
the vast majority of players played those games on Normal. dark souls had no difficulty choice. barely anyone plays the untested hardest difficulties on western games because they usually just crank the HP and damage up. what retarded point are you trying to make?

>>714056941
>>714057034
>character choices instead of build variety
>no bonfires
>no exp loss on death you can regain
>no "hard" bosses
>no summoning
>no pvp
>no pvpve
>no physically weakening (losing health bar capacity) on death
>i-frame roll based action combat
you literally can't name a game that did this before demons soul's

>>714057129
>arpg but with random pvp that can affect your progress and specific weapon collisions is AN ENTIRELY NEW GENRE GUYS!
it's not, but I don't expect you to ever understand why.

>>714057248
didn't ask lil bro. when I want the opinion of a kid raised on youtube "critiques" I'll check the comment section on a 10 hour dark souls lore video.
I lived through the release of Demon's Souls. I played it day 1 when it released in the west. fuck you you're nobody. you're nothing. DIE

>>714057127
Just because a game offers you easier options doesn't mean the harder ones don't exist, dumbass. Complaining about how easy games were when you only picked the "can I play daddy" difficulty is moronic.

>>714054305 (OP)
This webm is supposed to be an epic own but shows what I miss most about old school souls gameplay. It's like moving board game pieces around in 3D space, it's a simple style but you will eat shit for basic mistakes and bad decisions. DeS, DS1, and DS2 are truly sovl and kino.

>>714054952
>Armour feels meaningful and actually serves a purpose
What a great game indeed

>>714056615
Dark Souls 2 fucked up the damage formula

>>714054305 (OP)
It was mostly because of the framerate, frankly.

>>714057353
not him but do you really think the average gamer picks "hard" ? as the guy pointed out DS didnt even have that option. This is some real goalpost moving if ive ever seen it. I dont think ive ever seen someone say uncharted was hard before either.

>>714057353
the point of the original poster (not me) is that most people weren't used to a mainstream hardcore game with no difficulty options, so dark souls was a big curveball to most players.

if your peabrain could actually read between the lines, the argument isn't that uncharted, etc is easier than dark souls on the hardest difficulty, it's about the general perception of normies being suddenly exposed to a niche title like souls

>>714054952
the gatekeepers managed to keep the noobs from using OP builds like this back in the day. You had people saying that heavy armor and shields were uselss in dark souls 1 up until a few years ago because thats what they heard and they never tried it for themselves.

I remember playing it for the first time 2013 on my PS3 and i got stuck after the first encounter with Seath the Scaleless, then got back into it after watching someone speedrunning it and showing that the game is actually quite easy if you understand how it's supposed to be played.

I remember spending so much time killing these weak-ass enemies cause i've only played shit like God of War or Devil May Cry, but turns out it's better to just ignore them and go to a boss fight with all your Estus Flasks etc. At one point i was able to beat Dark Souls in about 2 hours and change, i would play it just to distract myself. 2013 ~ 2015 were good times for me, still in high school and only cared about drinking and playing vydia.

>>714057654
how can you blame 2 when 3 was the one that let you roll a billion times for 1 stamina bar?

>>714054305 (OP)
Two thing. It was a different time. And that's the very first area after the tutorial.

>>714057129
diablo had most of this

>>714058176
"Just wear havels" was the popular advice for 4kings right at release.

>>714054305 (OP)
You have to remember people here are the caliber of player that genuinely thinks poise in ds1 was a well implemented mechanic and that they never stopped crying when it was finally fixed in the sequels.

>>714058176
Yup but then popular streamer forsen showed everyone

>new dark souls historical revision
It's all so tiresome.

>>714054305 (OP)
Prepare To Die

After recently playing Jedi Survivor. I understand Dark Souls even more than I used to. Despite the fact that the game can be broken by its stupid RPG mechanics. It is a genuine miracle that froms 2nd try at their combat was so genuinely balanced and well thought out as it is. I plan on doing a big indepth thread on Jedi Survivor and the problems with combat design. Will do some Dark Souls glazing while im at it, to prove that coherence is more important than challenge. Mechanics actually all working together matters more than a game with superfluous mechanics that exist just to be used. Not to enhance or bolster other aspects of play.

>>714054305 (OP)
DS I aged like milk

>>714054305 (OP)
Typical game in 7th gen was braindead easy. Like, publishers really went hard on making it easy easy. That's why DS is an outlier and a callback to older games where you could actually like you know die sometimes.

Minecraft was harder

>>714056619
God damn you are a retarded zoomer

>>714056376
Still better then how Ds3 handles it

>>714059839
Jedi problem is that it would be better as a linear game. They clearly came up with the souls thing late in development which is why the game is so broken