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>companies are killing their products after i bought them!
>better call the government for my retardation

>>714099237 (OP)
>blue sky
Yes. Preaching to a echo chamber of Thousands is sure gonna help things.

>>714099237 (OP)
I WILL, vote for consumer rights, I WILL make lazy devs sperg out, I WILL force publishers to think twice before making live service slop, and I WILL MOST DEFINITELY do it all to piss Thor off.

>>714099237 (OP)
NYPA but good luck I hope you succeed

>statists BTFO so hard that they abandon the previous thread
>the same debunked arguments in the OP
transparent and pathetic

You don't to play your game forever, move on manchild.

>>714099237 (OP)
I don't understand who's trying to kill video games and why are they trying to do it?

>>714099375

oh no the consequences of my own actions!
hope this fails btw

>>714099415
>vote
>EU
oh eurotards...

>>714099526
The Jews
Because they killed Jesus

Statist arguments ITT preview:
>pajeet
>contrarian
>how much is Ubisoft paying you to post ITT?
>is this post AI?
>if you disagree you must be some other eceleb that nobody else but me has heard of
>I voted with my wallet but other people kept buying things I don't like! I'm calling the police!
>what do you mean additional labor costs additional money?
>OMG WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING CORPORATIONS WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS SITE?
>it's the same as selling poison baby food!
>/v/ was always in favor of government regulation of video games! It's just election tourists disagreeing!
>the EU gave us amazing regulations like being able to easily refund games you just purchased!
>EULAs stating the game doesn't work forever don't count because you agree to them after buying the game!
>oh wait ignore that part about games being easy to refund
and when you try to get them to think more than one step ahead about the effects of begging for more video game regulation:
>I don't care I'm unemployed with no future and I want the industry to die

It's how dishonest children argue.

>>714099526
Publishers, and it's to make you pay for their new product

>>714099526
>who's trying to kill video games
companies
>why are they trying to do it?
so you buy next game

Straight up "Thor" should just an hero himself.

>>714099607
>>714099617
Are you talking about mobile games because most games I play I own them as soon as I buy the physical copy or the download copy.

>>714099375
Bro thinks the multi billion dollar corpos will give him free handouts if he keeps defending them.

>>714099526
welfare recipients are trying to get the government to force people to make stuff for free for them to use

Corporation > Government > The People (aka retarded NPCs)

>>714099683
>bro can't live without toys so he needs to overregulate everything and kill competitors as well

>>714099375
American cope

>24k
Damn, we might actually beat yesterday's 26k and it's not doomed to a rapid decline

I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®
>I WANT TO PLAY "The Crew™© (2014)" BY Ubisoft®

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW

>tfw one side has more disingenuous arguments that the other.
I'm just gonna go by feeling here bros.

>>714099775
>if you regulate it companies will stop making toys
>if you regulate it you just want more toys
Mental gymnastics are incredible with the corpo defenders.

>>714099676
Live-service games

Who do you think offered your sorry ass a job? Be grateful for fucking once.

>>714099237 (OP)
Would I get banned for posting this? https://files.catbox.moe/73l0tz.mp4

>>714099775
Think of the suffering that all of the small indie always-online mega MMOs are going to suffer through. Oh, the humanity. The poor tiny starving executives selling $500 always-online games are going to be extra poor, tiny, and starving.

>>714099961
On Twitter? No

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER

DO NOT UNDER ESTIMATE THE POWER OF POSITIVE THOUGHT! ESPECIALLY COLLECTIVE POSITIVE THOUGHT!

THIS SHIT IS GOING TO REACH 1 MILLION SIGNATURES EASILY!
HOLD THAT THOUGHT AND VISUALIZE IT IN YOUR MIND EVERYDAY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE STARTING NOW AND IT WILL MANIFEST INTO REALITY. DO IT! I'M NOT JOKING!

VISUALIZE AS OFTEN AND AS DETAILED AS POSSIBLE!

EVERYTHING IS ENERGY AND VIBRATION
ATTUNE YOUR VIBRATIONS TO MATCH THAT OF FREE STUFF AND IT WILL COME TO YOU

>>714099237 (OP)
>fuck
You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over?

>>714099905
Does Nintendo switch have any of those in its game Library? Also it's the total war series one of those ?

remember:
>no shills
weak idea, jews dont feel threatened by it
>lots of shills and derailment attempts
threatening idea

>>714099828
and I will fight for your right to do so, anon

>>714099828
shartynigger begone

>i need the government to add laws about my favorite videogames because i want to play ubisoft games so bad instead of letting them all die off and switch to alternatives
The leftoid community.

>>714100012
holy shit....is this true?

>>714099237 (OP)
Ah dun hav twatter
neva hav

>>714100012
If the patient dies they die anon. The procedure must be done.

>>714099237 (OP)
As a vidya developer I'm not going to sign it. Whoever makes the game should be able to do with it as they damned please. The standard nowadays is online server-based games and those are expensive to maintain.

If you want games to stay alive then KEEP PAYING FOR VIDEOGAMES you fucking losers

>>714100034
BASRD

>>714100018
EU Jews absolutely HATE pointless regulations

how many of you are from the EU and what did you do to get some votes

who did you get to sign?
where did you reach out?

I got 3 family members to sign and shared it in a videogame related group from college
no idea how many people there followed through

other members of my family aren't as close but i'm still looking around for avenues

>>714099526
So imagine you go and buy a product, its yours to keep. Simple idea. You own that product until it stops working, you get a warranty within a certain period, it works within the confines of whatever you use it with (you bought the American Unit, so it works on 110 volts and within certain operating temperatures).

Now let's move it over to services. You buy a service to get your hair cut, you're not subscribing to a haircut service, so you know it's not unlimited, but when you check your appointment time, you can tell that the "service" lasts 30 minutes, you are paying for your hair to be cut for 30 minutes. You know exactly what you are paying and when that service will end, if it does.

Now for video games, this is the problem. When you buy that online game, you do not know when service ends (like for a multiplayer component of a single player game, or even authenticating with a server just to play the single-player portion - like DRM). This is actually a grey area in EU law and is potentially illegal for a dev to make you sign a EULA/Contract with this inside of it. Furthermore, even if you wanted to, you can't even mod the game to play it yourself because either the publisher will go after you, or reverse engineering from your side with your resources is a herculean task. This wouldn't apply to subscription games per say. Because your license does have an end date, it's when you stop paying money.

Stop Killing Games is designed to get all future games (after the law itself is passed, which will be debated to a huge extent) to allow the user to have access to the game in some way and essentially have an end-of-life plan. No, the developer doesn't have to host the files themselves; they just need to work with middleware companies ahead of time so they can redistribute the game in some kind of playable state to the players. Could be a crack for the DRM, could be server binaries without the copyright middleware, etc.

>>714100012
Coping in USA

>>714100138
Everyone does.

>>714100070
What's wrong with making Ubisoft spend more money? Why are you defending the multi billion dollar corporation?

>>714100012

Yes we better give up any civil rights or basic human rights ability that should be guaranteed to the government like clean drinking water evil to not have glass in our Parks or anything that could get in the way of giving more profits to Giant corporations or holding them accountable to the corporations themselves. Especially things such as our military.

we have now entered the
>every thread is at least 40 copy pasted reposts
era of a happening

>>714100159
imagine putting this much effort into having a girlfriend
you finally wouldnt be an incel

>>714100212
Leave ubisoft alone ok

Why are these political movement threads allowed on /v/?
Literally Gaymer Gate 2.0

You can eat my whole ass. The entire thing.

>>714100220
>now

>>714099237 (OP)
Thor won
you lost
cope and seethe

>>714100185
>they just need to pay more money, do more work, and predict the future of all possible outcomes for their product
so simple, why don't they do it already?

>>714100220
if you value personal liberty it is your duty to shitpost and derail in every one of these government shill threads

>>714100297
gg was a pointless endeavor but stop killing games will actually make a difference in the end

>>714100297
stop defending the mutli billion dollar corporations.

>>714099375
>>714099775
look at this pathetic little troll, embarrassing

>>714100351
Yeah, cuz it's not like we had an entire generation of games like TF2, Halo PC, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat, Age of Empires 2, that all had a LAN mode and player-hosted servers that can just work and play the game.

Don't you have an Uber shift to work, Ranjeet?

>>714100212
Why do you wnat to correct theor mistakes instead of moving on abd let them go burn in a fire? is assassin's creed so precioua to you? It's not about ubisoft spending more or less, it's about protecting smaller companies from higher entry costs and offer alternatives.

But yes, let's regulate everything, next you're going to see videogames lobbies in the government taking public money to save videogames. Statists are always useful idiots.

>>714100467
>if you value personal liberty
which one of your peronsal liberties is SKG going to take away from you?

jesus christ the keep killing games squad is really out in force today huh? guess you're running scared of this lmao

>>714100478
>gg was a pointless endeavor
You shut the fuck up.
Many brave soldiers died during those days.
Defending that which YOU hold dear.

>>714100574
It's afraid

You can eat (2 + 3 - 4) * 1 + 0 / 5 + (6 - 6) of my ass.

haha guys let's do this together just like in my favorite movies AVANGERS ASSEMBLE :D

Don't you feel like this whole movement is getting cringe?

>>714100574
there was atleast one guy posting gay porn in previous threads to get the thread deleted
disgusting corporate shills

>>714099526
Companies are doing it, for the sole reason to make number go up.

>>714100478
it wont change a thing because it will do NOTHING about intellectual property law

>>714100573
my ability to develop a game without government interference

>surely putting names on paper will cause political change!
the unions had to fight the military, including planes and rifles.
you guys are gonna need this
>b-but video games
get ready to sign the form tendie

>>714100528
>maybe if I namedrop the games this boomer actually played during their heydey, he will respect me and do what I tell him to

Sharty contrarians are certainly trying their best. Images, more ridiculous angles to ragebait.

>>714099415
Good man.

>>>/pol/509147081

BUMP THE /POL/ THREAD

>>714100765
oh you're planning on making a live service game? what's your concept

>>714100535
You're a gorilla monkey nigger. Every now and then we get a fucking gem of a multiplayer game like Titanfall 1 or 2 that I WANT to keep playing after it gets shut down. Titanfall 1 was shut down cuz of hackers, if the community hosted it, it would be fine. TF2 community-ran servers were able to survive the bots because they have more hands-on moderation and actually give a shit.

>It's about protecting smaller companies from higher entry costs and offer alternatives.

You are not a developer, this is not a big ask, it was doable in 2006, there will be middleware that shows up when this passes that will make this easier.

At this point I'm genuinely wondering if corpos are running a disinformation campaign or if this place has just become that psyoped.

>>714100297
both are videogame related
even if GG was a lot more retarded and molded into culturewar fuel instead of dunking on sites like ign

this will also have a more tangeable effect without distractions unlike the eventually merely cultural one


it is very easy to spot shills who want to desperately keep the possibility for their consumer rights to be fucked

>>714100831
based

>B-but my corporations aren't going to make any more videogames if this passes!!
Good

>>714100654

>>>/pol/509147081

Bump the pol thread

>>714100849
>this is not a big ask
>because I say so
>just design all your future games around dedicated community moderated servers in order to provide end of service EU regulation compatibility
>you have to, or else

>>714100848
To end it without any plan for anyone that bought it of course. That's why he's crying.

>>714100789
Thank you for acknowledging you have no point, time for another shift, Ranjeet. I want my fucking Panda Express, NOW.

>>714100848
none of your business
that's the point

>>714100767
Nothing happens because you never do anything

Is it possible to sign as a (c)UK or does Brexit mean Brexit?

>>714100765
So you're not paying any taxes whatsoever?

>>714100974
>everyone who disagrees with me is brown, a nazi, a jew, evil, retarded, or possibly an occult entity

>>714100884
this is completely true but also we need infinitely large governments

>>714100864
Choose the most grim option

>>714100991
I have a better liberty for you: the ability to play the games you paid for

Eat my entire ass, chat.

I worked at Blizzard you know.

>>714101031
I'm pretty sure you can't sign it if you're not in the EU unfortunately

>>714101047
I only pay taxes because I'm forced to by armed thugs. What is your point?

>a corporation should be able to take away your property because it's digital
What level of shill or brain damage do you have to be on to seriously argue for this?

>>714101067
>maybe if I pretend to give a shit about dead old games nobody has heard of enough, this guy will do what I say?

>>714101031
there is a UK petition
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/702074/

>>714100940
>>714100831
>advertising on pol
You just want this to fail, don't you?
>#stopkillinggames, also NIGGER HEIL HITLER
>#stopkillinggames you fucking oven-dodging kikes
etc.

>>714100849
>You're a gorilla monkey nigger. Every now and then we get a fucking gem of a multiplayer game like Titanfall 1 or 2 that I WANT to keep playing after it gets shut down.
Being such an entitled goyslop consumer you need to chain up an entire industry so you get to play with your sissy mechs?

I'm not even explaining myself further because we're not talking about food, not about water, not about sanitation. It's just fucking entertainment you can live without.
>you are not a developer so let's enslave every developer and fuck them up their work
Kys.

>>714100954
>just design all your future games around dedicated community moderated servers
You can tell this is a zoomer or gen alpha because they can't imagine a world without live service games. Community moderated servers is how games worked since the advent of online gaming.

>>714100012
This isn't just about videogames, anon.
This is about anything using a 'license' and extends to lunacy like 'smart' fridges as well. And forgive me, but I'd rather have a fridge that can keep running for 10+ years on end than have a manufacturer at some arbitrary point in time flip their "we need more moneyz" remote killswitch trashing my 'smart' fridge by pulling the server support and leaving me to buy a new one.

And if you think that's not quite dystopian enough, I've got two words for you: medical implants.

>>714100996
hahaha naive sucker.
here, have some awards. remember to prefill the form, though, you owe me that after shitting up my board with your political movement

>>714100954
I don't care how you do it nigga. I'll play what I bought or tell me when it ends before I buy slop from you.

>>714101067
>>WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THE GAME COULD POSSIBLY END ITS LIFE CYCLE AT SOME POINT
>Actually it says right here in the EULA that this can happen.
>>BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE EULA BEFORE I BOUGHT IT
>Yes you did, it's freely available online. Plus, you have the option to refund if you disagree with the EULA after purchase.
>>B-BUT I CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO READ A CONTRACT BEFORE AGREEING TO IT, WHAT IF IT SAYS THEY CAN KILL ME?
>That's silly, plus this argument is about informed consent. You can't claim that you weren't informed if you agreed to the contract.

Every single thread. SKG discord shills have a dozen arguments and none of them hold up under scrutiny.

>>714101067
Just don't pay for shit games lmao

>>714101138
>What is your point?
His point is he wants to used the armed thugs to force game developers to do what he wants, because at least he gets some value out of the EU that way

>>714100954
You can tell who the zoomers are because they think always online games full of microtransactions are the default.

>>714101138
So you already can't develop a game without government interference?

>>714099375
Anyone got that comic of the pie chart head people where red guy is yelling at blue and it causes blue to becoming bigger and a third guy listening starts to be blue too?
Feels like this is happening here.

>>714100954
For 20 years:
>Can we please play these that we don't pay subscriptions for offline when the servers go down?
Devs: No, lol
>Okay, so right in EU law it's actually illegal to make me sign a EULA whereby AT THE LEAST you don't tell me when your service will end, here's a petition to correct this according the literal law that already exists.

You:
>NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, Y-YOU'RE THREATENING ME!!!

-We are here because they dragged their feet for 20 years.

>Also, since you made this difficult, I'm going to ask you also release the binary, it's now law also

You:
REEEEEEEE

>>714101234

>>714099375
>you can have your consumer rights over my dead body!

>>714101265
Deeply-held beliefs, a PBF comic

>>714099375
People will surely believe you every time you insult them.

>>714101305
pretending like you have actual political clout when you are in the (very slowly almost expired) petition stage is hilarious to me

>>714101051
Still waiting for that rebuttal. Brownoids can't argue like a white man.

>>714101347
Someone should make a SKG version.

>>714100884
why do they want a million signatures again?

>>714101345
>consumer rights is when they keep alive an infrastructure so i can play my mmo porn games

Just don't buy it.

>>714101373
If the movement is failing anyway, why are you arguing so ardently against it?

>>714100159
Handled outreach among friends, family and coworkers.
Presented the arguments neutrally and told them to make up their mind.
Most told me this was a total no-brainer and signed the initiative within the hour of reading up on it. (I had one joker in my friend group who was going to hold out to the last day, because he liked the idea of potentially being that one unsung gate-closer; the final one to push the signatories over the threshold.)

>>714099375
This won't work anymore, anon. Right wingers support SKG to shit on a gay furry. Left wingers support SKG to shit on a corpo shill. G-d has blessed the mold man with the most ridiculous enemy possible.

if you don't like the idea of games having a limited lifetime, then don't buy those games. if there's enough pushback that it affects bottom lines, companies will implement end-of-life plans organically to offset that.

>but voting with my wallet isn't working because a lot more people are voting the other way!
have you considered that being outvoted in this instance is an indirect manifestation of the will of the customers? there's obviously a market for people playing only the latest games. you're just not the target audience for those games.
you'll still have your own market for singleplayer and even dedicated server multiplayer games that your grandchildren can cherish.
But you feel the need to bring the fun police down on everyone else and spinning it as some revolutionary action.

>>714100297

>>714101254
>So you already can't develop a game without government interference?
Incorrect. You are too stupid to even pretend to be stupid properly.

How is this not begging?

>>714101519
So you DON'T pay taxes?

>>714099375
Have someone come up with a better line, because you obviously can't.

>>714100535
>dude smaller companies are trying to make mega MMO slop
No most multiplayer genres have this issue solved for decades. Most multiplayer games can be hosted on a community server very easily. If people can host private WOW lobbies most games have no excuse

>>714101176
Hey retard, it's literally part of EU law ALREADY that you HAVE TO disclose when the service ends (subscription games DO tell you that).

All this petition is doing is asking for verification and also asking asking to protect games. At the very least, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN END DATE PRINTED ON THE BOX. THAT is EU law. Go vote for different lawmakers if you want it changed. Why didn't you complain about the politicians before you trend-chasing zoomer retard nigger brain?

>>714101501
And both are retarded and will increase state influence over everything to goon a little more.

>>714101392
>Still waiting for that rebuttal.
Name dropping old games that were a product of the network infrastructure of the era isn't much of an argument, and doesn't require a rebuttal.

You're just some angry eurotrash kid on welfare.

>>714100351
They already did. This literally wasn't a problem for any games in the 1990s-2000s.

>>714100478
>>714100486
>>714100865
I just hate it when 4chan is used as some personal army for pretty much any reason
I wish this whole place would be just completely detached from society as a whole
Talk shit, argue, and praise whatever you want but don't shill your gamer revolution

>>714101234
Monkey nigger, EU law dictates you have to disclose when a service ends on the box, not "at any time" that is a contract that is now VOID.

>>714101476
if the movement is succeeding why do you care what I have to say?

>>714101480
kek, well done anon
make sure to call him on the last day

>>714099237 (OP)
retweeting on bluesky right now

>>714101595
because begging is defined as you posting to try to get something that you redeem

>>714101505
>Implying these people are on the same level as us
People are far too fucking stupid and apathetic nowadays to actually care about the content they consume. Most people would rather goon to AI-generated pictures of Jenna Ortega than anything else. These people are being treated like cattle, and it's our job to fight for the rights of the consumer, even if they're too mindbroken to think that they need to be saved.

>>714101621
They did already tell you that it might end. And you already knew that anyways. This whole movement is based around a dead game with no players that potential pedophiles like Ross bought only after the game announced it was shutting down. It has always been a solution in search of a problem.

>>714101373
Thank you for conceding.

>>714101732
>N-NO U!
great comeback, but you haven't answered my question

>>714101621
I don't give a flying fuck about the EU laws, EU laws is why this continent is a centralized shithole full of niggers.

I am just asking to stop cutting out every freedom, give unfair advantages to corporations and let the lobby more just because you need your ahitty mecha games.

You're another statist parasite and thia will backfire if it passes.

>>714101679
>problem
you mean a limitation
GAAS doesn't work on dialup or DSL

>>714100884
How does ip make server hosting illegal when I was doing it I'm the 2000s

>>714100220
It's just Americans. The threads from a few hours ago only had a couple of Indians in it.

>>714101702
Doomer faggots deserve the rope, at least then you'd actually weigh in on something

>>714101636
Don't care. We will make this furry faggot seethe and none of your toothless libertarian beliefs will get in the way of that.

>>714101869
bro thinks he in the middle of a debate lmao

This is for all you anons out there.

>>714101462
>keep alive an infrastructure so i can play my mmo porn games
good thing thats not whats being asked for retard

>>714101204
>This is about anything using a 'license'
Aka altering people's right to ownership. The reason licences exist is to make a distinction between between owning a product of a property.
Also that has nothing to do with drm. In fact if you were to alter ownership rights like that drm would be the only way to have something left.

>>714101702
I just hate it when newfags pretend to know what "personal army" even means.
You fucking retard.

>>714100528
that was a different time, most software was monolithic and third party middleware was less common. dedicated servers were the norm and server binaries were just a lightweight .exe
game backends today are a mess of microservices, containers, middleware and cloud platforms. should developers also provide you with an AWS subscription?

>>714101702
of all the causes /v/ has tried to rally for this past year this is thus far the only one with any real world merit
i understand the sentiment but this is a lot different than the stellar blade petitions and the like in just about every way

>>714101717
Why do you pretend to care so much about the need to put a warning sticker on a game that it might not be playable a thousand years from now?

>we're deciding on turning mm off
>but here is a lobby mode, simply port forward and you can have other people connect to it and play the game
that would be impossible for modern games, however, as the jeet codemonkeys are incapable of this very simple feat which used to be the norm back in the 00s

>>714101957
basado

>>714099237 (OP)
Name 3 good games that are effected by this
I want to care but I don't buy ubisoft slop

>>714101957
This is fucking stupid the government is supposed to represent and serve the people

>>714101702
>Talk shit, argue, and praise whatever you want
I have talked shit about retarded consumer practices for years and now praise an effort to actually try and hold those doing it responsible for your actions in the nicest way possible

>I wish this whole place would be just completely detached from society as a whole
I somewhat agree, but when people come for one of the few things I truly enjoy i'm gonna try and fight back.

In an ideal world, every game should have the potential to live on like doom and quake did if the interest is there. I genuinely wish such a blissful utopia upon the zoomoids.

I only use my Twatter account to follow random people so I have no followers. Would I still contribute to making the hashtag trending?

>>714101839
You have to say when, not "when we feel like it" on the box, according to EU law that is already in place, are you another Indian ESL?

Why are you bringing up Pedophiles? Lol.

>>714102024
>I want to care but I don't buy ubisoft slop
How about the possibility of Ubi getting their balls squeezed a little bit?

>>714101621
>muh EU
>muh EU
>muh EU
anyone else grossed out by this? who knew europoors were so brainwashed? I thought they considered the whole 'EU' thing to be a necessary evil, rather than some bizarre nationalist(can I even call it that?) fixation

>>714101993
>

>>714102035
Whoever disagrees with you will point out that the key word in your post is
>is supposed to

>>714101972
Then either the libraries and services rewrite their contracts to account for end of life plans or the devs stop being lazy and relying on 30 libraries to make basic matchmaking function

>on track to easily surpass yesterday
Shillbros... I don't understand.
I thought it was meant to be slowing down?

>>714101156
>can play old games
:(
>can develope live service without shitting on customers
:D

>>714102091
Alright, you got me
I'm all in

>>714099761
Fuck off palantir

>>714102035
>government is supposed to represent and serve the people
How long have you been living in a cave anon?

>>714102075
my understanding is that posting the same hashtag at the same time will cause it to go trending, so you dont have to have any following to contribute.

So either
>online games are no longer released to europoors and I don't have to deal with them anymore
Or
>I get to revisit any fun online game 20 years from now in comfy private servers when I'm old
How is this bad again?

>>714100297
kill yourself 2troon

>>714099237 (OP)
>bluesky
hard pass
fuck this leftist shit

>>714101738
Can't. He signed it last week.
Because he was fed up with Thor and wanted to see him seethe.

people under the age of 30 or without children shouldn't be allowed to vote

>>714102201
>Hello Herr EU bureaucrat, we need all software coders to rewrite everything they do more innefficiently
>>But why?
>Because The Crew (2014) doesn't work anymore

>>714099237 (OP)
NYPA

>>714099237 (OP)
i'm not a commie

>>714101993
What's your actual problem?

>>714102201
>or the devs stop being lazy and relying on 30 libraries to make basic matchmaking function
But hiring talent in India decreases workload on domestic professionals and decreases time to value for our product, and using external software means we have ready-made solutions making it possible to bring better quality to you, the customer, in a more comprehensive way. And don't forget that trans rights are humans rights!

Jannies, why is it ok for those leftard to spam their communist propaganda?

>>714100884
>problem caused by IP
The fuck? No it isn't.
>muh government
Corporations (Yidsney) literally forced this future for you

>>714102035
and 600k+ people and growing WANT the gov to REPRESENT AND SERVE them.
or are you gonna pretend more than half a million eu citizens don't count because.....?

MORE REGULATIONS
MORE MORE MORE REGULATIONS
GIVE US MORE REGULATIONS
REGULATE EVERYTHING, EVERY SINGLE FACET OF EXISTENCE AND CREATION
REGULATE IT
REGULATE ME DADDY
HARDER DADDY REGULATE ME
GIVE ME MORE REGULATIONS

>>714102360
I have this crazy notion that I should be able to do what I want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else

>>714102308
not my problem

>>714102354
Not a personal issue

>>714099375
There's a thread on this very board of retarded anons getting mad and acting as if they'll get refunds for Ready or Not because they signed a EULA. Circlejerking about getting refunds is based but circlejerking about companies being jews is cringe to you.

>>714101878
The positives are overwhelming, the negatives are that a few live service games made by a fraction of the95 percent of devs making live service games RIGHT NOW, might not survive.

If a good game comes out, gets support for 5 years, then gets shut down, I can still potentially play that game, with community servers that ban bots, cheaters, etc, and they will have free time to make mod tools instead of just getting the game playable to add more content. I want to play good games forever, I don't want to keep playing the newest slop designed to waste my time and sanity.

Good example is Titanfall 2 Northstar. They are STILL trying to get that game fully working but it's missing content from the base game. Now Titanfall 2 isn't gone yet, but TItanfall 1 is. So if I wanna play Titanfall 1 maps/content (which I do) I have to wait for this community to do all of that, which is going to take years because they are porting Titanfall 1's content to 2 because that's the most logical thing to do at this point. If this law was already in effect I could hop on right now and fucking play it.

During the previous threads americans, shills and other “people” failed to provide comprehensive answers the following questions:
1. Why is it bad to force government you elected to represent your interests
2. Why is it bad to have more consumer rights and better protection for them
3. Why should an average person read hundreds of pages of agreement he gets AFTER the purchase and gamble on his knowledge of exact laws governing this and perfect understanding of all the edge cases of the phrasing used instead of expecting good service by default?
4. Who except kike publishers will benefit from this initiative NOT passing?
Food analogies will not be accepted as an answer.

shills are utterly mindbroken today
their corporate overlords must be terrified

>>714102370
>this buzzword again

>>714101234
>>714101325
jesus fuck trolls are so desperate

>>714102051
*their [publishers and developers] actions that make it unreasonably hard or even impossible to

>>714102303
Honestly, I don’t think they do anyway.

>>714102408
MORE SUBSCRIPTIONS
MORE MORE MORE SUBSCRIPTIONS
GIVE US MORE SUBSCRIPTIONS
SUBSCRIBE TO EVERYTHING, EVERY SINGLE FACET OF EXISTENCE AND CREATION
THEN DELETE IT
DELETE WHAT I DIDN'T LEGALLY OWN
HARDER DADDY TAKE AWAY WHAT I NEVER OWNED
GIVE ME MORE SUBSCRIPTIONS

>>714102404
>this inorganic American eceleb shill campaign represents the will of Europe, ignore the fact that less than 0.1% of citizens have supported it

>>714102428
>Shuts down game within 1 year of launch, could give it fans to actually do it right
>Don't do that, money stolen
>IT DOESN'T HURT YOU, GOY

>>714102428
delegating violence is still violence

>>714102084
>Why are you bringing up Pedophiles? Lol.
Basic character assassination strategy. Repeat it enough times until it sticks and becomes 'true.' Was attempted many, many times before. Usually not by corpo bootlickers though. Mostly by left extremists.

>>714102267
>How is this bad again?
Because the choices are
>online games are no longer released period
Or
>Those fun online games are shut down and replaced with full priced rereleases

>>714102051
Based futurist

If only more people could realize that giving the zoomers a decent life is in everyone best interest.

>>714102537
>wtf do you mean I'm being evicted?! I paid 800 euro for this apartment!?
>JUST RENTING? WTF IS RENT? I BOUGHT THIS APARTMENT FROM YOU, FOR 800 EURO.
>No I didn't read the fucking contract, contracts are ILLEGAL in the EU you idiot
>STOP IT, YOU CANT- NO YOU CANT IM NOT LEAVING I BOUGHT THIS APARTMENT I PAID 800 EURO!

>>714101732
You don't stop fighting just because you're winning, anon. Do you play a racing game, stay in the lead, and then park on the side of the road on the final lap?

>>714102118
Still no argument. I am waiting for (1) good one at this point. It's bizarre how brain-dead you people are. I voted for Trump 3 fucking times and I am shocked at the level of bootlicking going on here.

>>714102710
You're kicked out of the place you're renting halfway through the month because your landlord doesn't want to pay for the upkeep of the property anymore

>538
>IESLB
>immediately starts to no u when BTFO
Done.
Ross is destined to win with such clowns as enemies.

>>714101156
yea but you give a shit about your right to develope live service games without restrictions

>>714102710
Did you know that you actually CAN buy apartments? And that it's distinctly separate from renting?
And that if the contract says that you are "buying" the apartment that, yes, the former owner can NOT ask for rent?

>>714102710
>you're getting evicted
>>what? but i paid you rent on time
>yeah, but i really want to replace this apartment block with something that will earn me more money
>good luck out there!

>>714102848
That's skg supporters for you.

>>714099237 (OP)
it's making great progress, almost 200k more signatures in the past couple of days since people started talking about it again

>>714101972
And more middleware companies will come up and adapt. They used to sell milk with dirt and brain matter mixed in because the regulation was horrendous. And as we know, regulating the milk industry from then on completely destroyed it in America and no one ever sold milk again because it was too expensive....

Or, companies can adapt.

>>714102465
The "positive" is not overwelming because such policy has not taken effect yet, but every other sector regulated too much speaks for itself. You get the state the ability to intervene, you get lobbies to intervene too inside the state and ruin your experience even further, and guess which one the sttae cares more about? The guys with the money, they dictate the laws.

>just give us your data goy!

>>714102945
Did you know that you actually CAN buy software? And that it's distinctly separate from buying a license?

>>714102635
>online games are no longer released
Publishers will not simply give up the most profitable type of game overnight.
>shut down and replaced with full priced rereleases
That is not an end of life plan and will not satisfy the even the vague requirements laid out by the initiative.

>>714102297
even more based

>>714099961
kek

>>714103036
>give us your data! i love living in the USA!

>>714102710
Agreed, renting should be fucking forbidden as well. FUCK airbnbs, FUCK owners of 200 flats that don’t do jack shit but make you pay off another one of their mortgages while sucking 60% of your salary. Want to rent? Get a hotel room. Rapefugee? Your fucking problem. Bring the housing prices DOWN to where they fucking belong so that young people can buy a fucking flat and have kids in there instead of making another fucking useless pregnancy incentive for taxpayers money.

>>714101176
Surprisingly, some people desire to be abused by corpos
Masochism too much?
Also, bullshit gaslighting doesn't work on 4chan. "I decide how things are for others!" yeah right..

I steal all my games so IDGAF

Although triggering corpos and their enablers is funny

>>714102947
POV: you ignored 90 day, then 60, then 30 day notices until the last minute when the apartments were being closed up by their owners and everyone had already moved out

>>714102118
> Was the driving force behind digital storefronts' refund policies
> Forced Valve to stop geofencing their pricing.
> Forced Apple to adopt USB-C
> Forced Apple to open up iOS to alternate storefronts and sideloading
> Forced Apple to allow alternate browsers to fuck-up Safari on iOS (REAL alternate browsers, rather than reskins forced to reuse Safari's busted piece-of-shit engine.)
> Forced Microsoft to allow uninstalling Edge.
> Forced Microsoft to allow using Windows 11 without a Microsoft Account
> Forced Meta to clean up their data slurping practices
> Forced Google to clean up their data slurping practices
> Recently declared all tracking ads de-facto illegal in a clever way that makes it impossible to use big ad-tech's real-time bidding in a legally compliant manner.
> Seats and has export-control over ASML, the sole company in the world capable of building and maintaining the EUV chip fabs that sustain the entire modern digital ecosystem
> etc. etc.

KNEEL!

>>714101674
I voted for Trump 3 times, nigger, try again.

>>714102710
>wtf do you mean I’m being evicted
>I dont have another place to go and thus you cant evict me by law
>proceeds to not get evicted
Your move?

Did you pray for Israel today?

I seriously hope none of you handed over your personal data to the EU

After reading through these threads I finally understand why developers hate “Gamers™” so much. I have never seen a group of people so entitled and as childish as this. WAHHHHH I WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE! WAHHHHH I WANT TO PWAY YOUR GAME FOR FREE FOREVER!!!! WAHHHHH I DONT CAWE THAT IT ISNT FEASIBLE OR WEALISTIC GIVE ME GAME NOW OR YOU ARE TWANSGENDER CORPO SHILL!”

>>714101674
Are you the same retard that claimed that a basic server browser was a last century technology? If so, please kill yourself.

>>714103039
What software is it that I can buy?

>>714103097
Consider this then, SKG being successful will make every game piratable when official support ends.
Sure you might not give a shit about pirating The Crew, but for every 1000 The Crews out there there's one game you might like to play sometime in the future.

>>714103114
As an American, I find this to be pretty based.

>>714103045
>Publishers will not simply give up the most profitable type of game overnight.
Online games aren't profitable because they're online games, they're profitable because of microtransactions which aren't tied to online features.
>That is not an end of life plan and will not satisfy the even the vague requirements laid out by the initiative.
Unfortunately it is because the only requirement is to keep the game alive not your purchase

>714103257
>After reading through these threads I finally understand why developers hate “Gamers™” so much. I have never seen a group of people so entitled and as childish as this. WAHHHHH I WANT EVERYTHING FOR FREE! WAHHHHH I WANT TO PWAY YOUR GAME FOR FREE FOREVER!!!! WAHHHHH I DONT CAWE THAT IT ISNT FEASIBLE OR WEALISTIC GIVE ME GAME NOW OR YOU ARE TWANSGENDER CORPO SHILL!”

>>714103134
>actually admitting to this
Retards are quite bold these days, let me tell ya.

>>714099375
no selfies outside of /soc/

>>714103291
Its kind of like the difference between renting an office and buying an office building

>>714101463
>Just don't buy it.
>Several years later

>>714103257
>isn’t feasible or realistic
It is, though. That’s the whole point.

>>714103387
>Online games aren't profitable because they're online games, they're profitable because of microtransactions which aren't tied to online features.

>>714103512
>>714103454

>>714103449
But that's not what I was asking.
I was asking about what software I can buy, according to your own statement.

>>714103104
I don't think you realize just how retarded the thing you just said is.
You can't just evict people out of their homes whenever you want. There are laws against that.

>>714102308
>More inefficiently
>When this “efficient” way is so that it can’t survive without constant dev support
Yeah reallll efficient code you have there

>>714099375
>government protects corporations
>consumer has rights over property
Am I describing socialism, capitalism or communism?

>>714099961
holy based

>>714101463
I didn’t.

>>714103114
Why do poorfag Android virgins brag that the EU forced iPhone users to use an inferior charging cable? How is this in any way a positive?

>>714102482
Corporations are the gods of America, they can do no wrong.
>You will own nothing and you will be happy? Man, that's fucking horrible!
>Corporations want to take away things people paid for? That's just the free market baby! I'm gonna go suck a CEO's shriveled cock!

>>714103257
>FOR FREE FOR FREE FOR FREE
What do you mean? The movement is to keep games you bought for money (ie. not free).

>>714103387
>microtransactions which aren't tied to online features
Jeet-kun...

>>714103501
No it isn’t, moron. How many games have you worked on? I see actual developers and people in the industry claim that it’s unrealistic nonsense, and then Gamers™ come out and say it’s all super easy and there’s no issues with doing it. Link me to accredited game developers active in AAA development that support SKG

>>714103604
You must enjoy having to carry a charger around in case half of the world doesn't have one?

>>714102710
Congrats. You picked possibly the worst example possible that is NOT a food analogy.

Property rental contracts in most EU states require a fixed term and renew automatically unless suitably advance notice is given that the tenant is going to be evicted at the end of the rent term. Many states also feature a form of tenure, where the longer someone has rented the same property the harder it becomes to not renew their term and allow them to stay on, and increasingly stronger evidence of the need to evict the tenant has to be provided through a court.

>>714103029
It hasn't taken effect yet but you're just arguing worst case scenario when it's literally been the opposite:

Austrailia - Got Valve to issue refunds globally
EU - Got apple to allow third party stores (on EU Iphones) and USB-C - one fucking cable standard.
>>714103114
See this for more.

If you wanna talk innovation and stifling, you can make an argument when it happens. Games are getting destroyed RIGHT NOW. I am done arguing endlessly with zero solutions. If you have a fucking solution, make your own petition. You don't care anyway about video games so what does it fucking matter? You don't care enough to save them, you don't care enough to suggest an alternative solution. Why are you even here arguing and screaming into the void? You don't care about the hobby. You are apathetic in the worst possible ways.

>>714103552
people get evicted for not paying rent all the time everywhere in the world, including europe

you child

>>714103682
>I see actual developers and people in the industry claim that it’s unrealistic nonsense
You have said that before, Thor, but so far we haven't heard any of them say anything.
On the other side, many actual devs have actually stated their support for SKG.

>>714103794
>for not paying rent
But I did pay rent. Your imagined scenario is retarded.

>>714103701
The extremely common problem of me not having my own phone charger and needing to use a stranger's

>>714099375
>Thank you for your contribution. 5 cents have been added to your bank account. -Ubisoft.

>>714103682
Refer to >>714102051. Are modern game devs all as retarded as you? Is that why games suck these days?

>>714103774
>Got apple to allow third party stores (on EU Iphones) and USB-C - one fucking cable standard.
And now they're making more money than ever on them.

>>714103682
>Appeal to authority
>Apeal to Majority

I also see developers saying they would rather this go into effect because their life's work won't be destroyed and left in an unplayable state, and they want their bosses to be forced to implement this.

Well after all the vague libertarian fear mongering in this thread that has never proved true in any past instance with tech, I no longer support SKG guys. I think this is the one that will finally destroy society as we know it, bros.

>>714103805
And? Where are they?

>trannysky

Seriously what's the point of this shit, games get made, live and then die. Just accept it.

>>714103039
I do. I did that regularly. Every time I clicked the "Buy game" button on Steam.
Which read "Buy game" and did not read "Buy access to game" or "Buy license to game".

Fancy that!

Nah

>>714102710
What outside of subscription games, which this movement doesn't really target, can be equated to a regular rent payment? Most of these games are single purchase.

>>714103936
Can you link me to the Sharty thread you came from?

I work for a massive publisher.

You idiots won't change a thing. The attitude inside a massive publisher is "yeah, the games suck and the microtransactions suck, but they pay the bills". Like that's literally what is said in our massive meetings and even the lowest totem pole workers know that's how it is. We know the games suck, but hey pay the bills.

It is unfortunate that I work for a company that takes advantage of people that can't control their finances, but I haven't found a new job yet that has similar pay or benefits.

You won't change shit with some stupid twitter campaign.

PEOPLE. KEEP. BUYING. MICROTRANSACTIONS.

PEOPLE KEEP PAYING $120 TO PLAY GAMES 3. DAYS. EARLY.

You won't change anything. PEOPLE KEEP BUYING THIS GARBAGE.

Unless you can educate people on finances so they stop buying $10 loot boxes every single paycheck, then NOTHING. WILL. CHANGE. IDIOTS SHOVEL MONEY INTO OUR POCKETS AND WE ALL HATE THE GAMES WE MAKE BUT YOU MONKEYS KEEP BUYING THIS SHIT AND PAYING OUR BILLS.

>>714103936
>accept the death of something non-living
>a video game
>on my video games board
I refuse.

>>714103564
a service is not a property

>>714103832
>too stupid to realize its an mmo analogy
pity

>>714103548
well if you're so interested in games about to "die", approach the developer and make them an offer.
I'm sure they'd consider offering the things you want the government to force them to do when presented with enough compensation.

>>714099828
>Person who hates consumer rights also hates Yotsuba and anime by extension
?

>>714104052
>I work for a massive publisher.
prove it and i just might read the rest of your post

>>714104052
I JUST WANNA PLAY TITANFALL 3 OFFLINE WHEN IT COMES OUT ON COMMUNITY SERVERS WITH NO HACKERS/BOTS WHEN IT CEASES DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT SO FUCKING MUCH TO ASK FOR?

>>714104093
>i-i-it was an analogy
Please do explain it.

>>714103901
yes no government has never been tyrannical in history, this lie makes perfect sense

>>714103936
It's a pro corporation campaign designed to give consumers a false sense of security so they can spend and spend without worrying.

Why do you think no company is actually talking back on this?

>>714103257
The issue is that it is feasible, usually the platforms that take shit away after you bought it do it because they are designed to validate info to a server on top of launching the game to get you in.
I know you're trying your absolute best to be contrarian here, to the point of having to go full caps, but if developers didn't do shitty things like needing to validate your login/game session with a server or patch it out when they are going to EoL a game + give you an installer of the game, then there's no issue at that point.

>>714103923
No, you made your claim first. So, names, please.

>>714104052
What you’re saying has nothing to do with what’s being discussed here. If you wanted to brag about working in gamedev, you should’ve made a thread of your own.

>>714103774
A refund and an industry standard is NOT forcing someone to spend money to keep an infrastructure running for you to play games.

And the cable is already shit and only a retard buys apple.

r/thedonald refugees discovered a cause and now they need to shit up every thread so they can be based gigachad corpo cocksuckers

>>714103936
>Just accept it.
No, I don't think I will.

>>714103257
Might be controversial, but I don’t give a single fuck about what developer thinks of me, his sole purpose is to provide entertainment and they haven’t done a good job for the last decade, so they better start doing what I like how I like unless they want to get a gov dick shoved down their throat

>>714103936
>games get made, live and then die
I am still playing games from 25-30 years ago. When will those die?

>>714102285
Checking the front page of bluesky
It's mainly animals and nature, even sports stuff outnumber polshit.
Looks like a much better place

>>714104052
i believe this. there is literally zero financial incentive for game publishers to change their course. what's the worst that will happen? people will cry on social media?

>>714103682
mr doom and quake as mentioned before who was adamant about releasing sourcecode of his games after x amount of years

because of wich, all those games are still playable and have thousands upon thousands of mods and development tools created for them by users for free

>>714099237 (OP)
What games are being killed?
Better question, What games are being killed you want or need to play?

>>714104084
The character I created myself using that service is my property.
The devs being jews that go out of their way to ensure I lose my property whenever they want can go eat a bag of dick

>>714099828
it's in my backlog, I would in fact like to play it at some point

>>714103936
I have the ability to choose and I will choose to reject this slave mentality.