Games that have aged like milk left out in the sun that are carried entirely by noatalgia from when you played them as a small child.

Didn't you have this exact thread like an hour ago?

>>714115179 (OP)
Okay, zoomer.

>>714115179 (OP)

>>714118103
It's babby's first jarpiggy. Zoomers love braindead garbage like this

>Look how poorly this shit aged man, can you believe it? What an embarrassment.

>>714115179 (OP)
It's barebones but still enjoyable. It's feature bloat that kills RPGs, not shitty graphics or boring combat. Nothing like playing a PlayStation game with load times and long battle animations. Sony killed the genre with their stupid movie obsession.

>>714115179 (OP)
Nah, it is a fun little romp. Silly story, fun gameplay and doesn't over stay its welcome.

>>714115179 (OP)
>zoomer plays classic game
>WTF, A WORLD MAP? WHERE'S THE OPEN WORLD!
>NO SKILL TREE, HOW CAN I UNIQUELY CUSTOMIZE MY CHARACTER TO MY STYLE OF PLAY (WHILE GOOGLING THE OPTIMAL BUILD THAT EVERYONE USES)
>NO AUTOSAVE?! IS THIS LIKE, SOME KIND OF ANTIAMERICAN CONSPIRACY THAT I SAW ON TIKTOK!
>NO VOICE ACTING? MY GENERATION CAN'T READ!

>>714120093
>and doesn't over stay its welcome.
This is so underrated. I know RPGs are supposed to be the long genre, but I want more RPGs that can be knocked out in like 8 hours casually if you know what youre doing. No more fucking filller dungeons that take 12 hours to get through, or some mandatory quest at the end of the game to revisit every location you visited throughout the game.

I just beat Brothership, and it had a lot of good things going for it, but it was like 20 hours too long

>>714119764
I'm not advocating for feature bloat. I'm just saying a jarpig needs more to combat than mindlessly mashing one button, and more to gameplay than walking down corridors and a few lame minigames that you don't give a shit about because the game is so easy and mindless

>combat is braindead just spamming one button, with basically no strategy or consideration for who you are fighting
>standard Square design where regular enemies are pushover trash mobs purely for exp/gold/items and pose zero threat (not that the bosses do either, but the power difference between the two is still massive)
>many of the QTE timings are unintuitive and unclear when you press them, which is funny considering the game overtutorializes everything else (but the game is so easy, you really don't even need to bother)
>most bosses take like 5-10 minutes straight of just spamming the same attack over and over while popping items as needed, even with the most damaging move, the QTE timing, and best equipment
>game drowns you in coins and resources so you can just spam items mindlessly
>story is basic save the princess, gather [important item] affair. Which is fine when your gameplay is great, but not in a JRPG where you just mash one button.
>random encounters constantly every five steps, especially bad in some areas where you finish an encounter and step 2cm right into another one
>the platforming sections are absolutely awful and control like ass. Yes, Mario is a platforming series. No, we don't need constant bullshit isometric platforming sections in our RPG
>the exploration/level design is just really fucking boring and usually just involves walking through dull corridors or occasionally mazes with random encounters peppered every few steps

I mean the game can be charming, and the soundtrack is okay, but is that REALLY supposed to carry 12-18 hours of mind-numbing boredom and tedium? And the game is just so easy and the combat system so barebones that you don't actually care about exploring or minigames because those few rewards don't really matter at all.

What a boring, underwhelming game.

>>714115179 (OP)
Why
Are
You
Gay

>>714120335
Play SRPGs. That'll give you the luxury of time since it cuts out random battles and keeps dialogue on the shorter end so you can focus more on gameplay.

>>714120107
A classic game is LttP, Super Metroid, Pikmin, Crash Bandicoot, Metal Slug, Tetris, Streets of Rage 2, Red Alert 2, RE4.

Not this retarded shit for babies

>>714115179 (OP)
You’re a faggot

>Devs put too many enemies in some rooms
>In addition to the game slowing to a slide-show, you can only fire one projectile at a time instead of three
>Wall/ceiling climb controls are dogshit

>>714118689
thats not chrono trigger

It’s one of Square’s masterpieces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKdkWTbUkIQ&pp=ygUaU3VwZXIgbWFyaW8gcnBnIGN5YmVyc2hlbGw%3D

>>714120364
ah, so you went for journalist difficulty and overlevelled by grinding
that was obvious without you explicitly saying it from the beginning though, thanks for verbatim explaining it and owning up to it though

>>714119764
>It's barebones but still enjoyable. It's feature bloat that kills RPGs, not shitty graphics or boring combat.
Boring, shallow combat kills way more RPGs than feature bloat or anything else. It singlehandedly ruins like 90% of RPGs, both western and eastern.

>>714115179 (OP)
>Games that have aged like milk

>>714121439
There is no difficulty setting you shitbrain. I'm literally running away from most encounters because they are so boring. The game also drowns you in coins and items.

>>714120586
SRPG combat takes 10x as long as normal RPG combat for like 10% more depth.

>>714115179 (OP)
The only thing that has aged badly about this is the graphics and even then they're unique enough that it's just a fun aesthetic.

>>714115179 (OP)
Few RPGs have explorable worlds as interesting as MarioRPG's.
Also the combat is also slightly above average with the different party members and silly skills.

>>714121225
Chrono Trigger aged better though.

>>714118689
>>714121225
Both those games are shit. Go look at something like Final Fantasy Mystic Quest if you want a true baby's first JRPG that actually sucks ass.

>>714121613
>also slightly above average
What the fuck are you talking about???

I struggle to even think of ONE SINGLE RPG with worse combat than Super Mario RPG

The combat is fucking mindless trash

The SMRPG speedrun is incredibly technical and shows off how deep the battle system is when you're not massively overleveled

>>714121745
>speedtrooning
Suicide. NOW.

>>714121598
sure thing little man, you win1 you win! you win!
there you go, sated for the day

>>714121827
You need to spend some time off the internet.

>>714121714
Fallout 1 and 2's combat is worse because they're about as shallow as SRPG but take 10x as long to end any given fight. Most turn based Final Fantasy games are just SMRPG without action commands, and the small amount of depth they add means SMRPG combat is better than them too. RPG combat standards are low enough that SMRPG is probably above average for the genre.

>>714121745
Almost any game is going to be challenging if the goal is to beat it 10ms faster than the fastest person who's ever beaten it before. Doesn't say much of anything about the game's quality or depth.

>>714121727
Butu whutta abouttu brindfordred?

>>714121827
Speedrunning as based for years before your gay ass generation came along and fagged it up. Look up the GDQs from 2013 and 2014

>>714122029
Fallout excels due to worldbuilding, story, characters, writing, quest design, exploration, player freedom, and gameplay scenarios

So yes, it can have bad combat and still be a very good game

>>714120649
imagine getting filtered by SMRPG I beat that shit when I was like 7

>>714115179 (OP)
Better than any Paper Mario game at least

>>714122317
It's a retarded game for babies, no shit you only liked it because you played is as a small child

>old classic game is actually le bad!!!!!

>>714121525
The limited inventory space alone keeps me from wanting to replay BG1 or BG2

>>714122519
it's not even that bad, stop picking up every +0 longsword you see

>nu /v/ hates SMRPG and defends modern Squareenix

>>714115179 (OP)
>Unique, charming artstyle
>Nicely paced story that takes you to a new area every ~30m
>Simple, but engaging combat
>Done in like 10 hours
If anything, this game has only gotten more enjoyable over the years, considering the insane bloat to playtime most modern JRPGs have suffered.

McCurdy cut gifts box zest chuck

>>714115179 (OP)
Final Fantasy IV, especially when put up against V and VI. The story is just melodrama for melodrama's sake until the last 3rd says "all of the actual plot happens here" like in III and the characters/battle mechanics just aren't that great.

>>714122634
Refresh my memory... what are the max stack sizes for potions, scrolls, and ranged ammo?

>>714122387
BY WHAT FUCKING METRIC

Holy shit I swear you fucking contrarians are braindead

>>714122243
>speedrunning is le cool, it was just ruined!
Speedrunning is, has been, and always will be FUCKING GAY.

>>714115179 (OP)
I played it for the first time five years ago and loved it though?

>>714115179 (OP)
one of like, five remakes that are actually good

still dunno how i ever figured out the sunken ship password without the internet

>>714115179 (OP)
Yoko Shimomura in her prime. None of the Mario RPGs sound close to as good as SMRPG, although BIS has some nice tracks and TTYD has a pretty good score.

>>714123128
You're a 70 IQ simpleton

>>714123234
>still dunno how i ever figured out the sunken ship password without the internet
The hints you collect make it pretty clear, but that one fucking room with the 3D maze was some real bullshit.
Likely spent 30+ minutes alone trying to get through that trash.

>>714115179 (OP)
OP here, sorry wrong image. Meant to post this one.

>>714122948
potions I think it was 20-25, ammo is 80 in the EE and I couldn't tell you for scrolls. either way ammo shouldn't be a problem in any game except vanilla BG1 because max quiver size appears to be 20 shots. You get the bottomless quivers in 2 pretty early if you aren't a pussy and just clear the first floor of Watcher's Keep, and everyone has 4 dedicated ammo slots. I never once in my runs of BG1 and 2 EE ran out of ammo.

>>714123252
At least I'm not a 60 IQ simplerton

>>714121727
>I struggle to even think of ONE SINGLE RPG with worse combat than Super Mario RPG
Most RPGs are just "Click Attack." This is above that.

Games don't age.

>>714115179 (OP)

>>714123548
But you do nigga, and this game sucks ass if you're not 5 years old

>>714121727
>I struggle to even think of ONE SINGLE RPG with worse combat than Super Mario RPG
Any of the Paper Mario games for starters. They took the concept of "babby's first RPG" and dumbed that down so much that those games are essentially visual novels that make you do timed hits every now and then

>>714123610
Do you only play mature rated games for hardcore gamers such as yourself?

>>714115179 (OP)
>games that have aged like milk
No games are like this

>>714123720
>Any of the Paper Mario games for starters.
You're retarded. All Paper Mario games have more mechanics, depth, and challenge than Mario RPG.

The Switch demake is dumbed down as shit so excluding that obviously

>>714115239
yeah, he made one on /vr/ too lmfao
>>>/vr/11835910

>>714122519
For me its the garbage combat

/v/tards praising such simplistic, childish, braindead shallow garbage like Mario RPG will simultaneously shitting on massive, sprawling, deep, immersive, well-written, challenging, replayable, interactive, reactive, incredible combat RPGs like BG3 will never not be funny to me.

It's like comparing a child's art class scrawlings to the Sistine Chapel.

>>714124502
BG3 is an ugly western fetish game without any charm though

>>714115239
Bro if you're gonna break containment with a vtuber can it not be Ina every least./v/ thread?
Spice it up a little at least.

>>714123610
The fact that you age as a person doesn't mean that you need to judge things subjectively like a little kid

>>714125534
>break containment
If you're gonna falseflag at least know what a containment board is

>>714123362
the real bullshit is how the boxes were arranged

>>714120107
>Bitching about autosave
Do you ever get tired of being a giant contrarian faggot? There's not a serious gamer on this planet who thinks the old way to save games is better. Not fucking one. Kill yourself, you stupid retard.

>>714125710
>/vt/ is a containment board
>it's a board about vtubers
???
First time on the website anon?

>>714126620
This anon is too new to know what a containment board is. At this rate newfags are gonna say that /ck/ and /an/ are containment boards.

>>714126706
Nigga /vt/ was literally made as a containment board to stop all the non-japanese vtubers flooding /jp/ at the time. That's the very definition to a T.

>>714127121
Not only is that not how containment boards work nor why /vt/ was made, vtubers are still on /jp/ and multiple other boards.
Where do you newfags get these made-up definitions of things

>snoy tries to claim tendies hate JRPGs
>point out that SMRPG remake outsold the most recent final fantasy
>thread trying to shit on SMPG is made

>>714115179 (OP)
FF6 aged like milk.
Chrono Trigger and SMRPG look like modern indie games.

>>714124502
It's /v/irgins you bear fucking faggot.

>>714128949
Maybe if you play the Pixel Remaster version. FFVI is actually the closest this medium has come to producing art.

>>714124502
It never ceases to amaze me at the fact that people like you can’t see anything good in simplicity and why overly complex games don’t always appeal to people

>>714129940
Simplicity in something like Tetris, Super Mario Bros, Contra, Crash Bandicoot, not braindead babyshit like Mario RPG

>>714131089
this guy doesn't know about timed hits

it's a little too easy but it's still a great game

>>714115179 (OP)
Your favorite games are also fake and gay, OP.

>>714121685
Loel

>>714122426
smrpg chads fucked this guy's mom