>6$ office mouse
>10$ office keyboard
Yup, it's gaming time.

Why are you paying more for less?

>>714142974
Because the local electronics store is 10 minutes from where I live versus waiting a week for MKB. Also, that color scheme is atrocious.

>>714142769 (OP)
I don't mind office mice, but office keyboards suck shit for gaming.
>old decent keyboard died a few years back
>replaced it with a cheap office keyboard
>the actual look and feel of it is pretty good, but it has severe issues with multi-row inputs
>makes it very difficult to play games where you want to hold w + strafe + some other input because it'll drop the third button until you release one of the other two
It's alright for RTS, but it sucks in first person shooters or space games

The $10 mice with shitty scroll wheels last longer than a $100 logitech Gaymen mouse

>>714143383
>severe issues with multi-row inputs
My current office keyboard is 12 years old and hasn't given me this problem. It's pretty good for when I wanna play Freespace 2.

>>714142769 (OP)
i got my office keyboard for $2.50

>>714143645
They probably didn't cheap out as much back then.

>>714143580
That's by design.

>>714142769 (OP)
>>714143383
>>714143580
>office mice/keyboards
you know that shit has like 50-100ms latency right?

>>714143982
I haven't noticed it, I play games with them fine. Sounds like a skill issue

>>714144172
if all you play is singleplayer kiddie games then its fine

>>714144239
Hit a nerve, didn't I?

pay $10 more for wireless. throw them away like paper towels when they get too nasty or unresponsive. use them on my legs ( i have big legs i am a chad)

>>714143982
From testing my logitech m100r apparently has around a 16ms delay, but I still play Quake Live perfectly well with it

>>714142769 (OP)
Why would you need anything else?
Especially the keyboard.

>>714142769 (OP)
I don't know why but I feel much more comfortable using cheap office mice than expensive ones.
I once bought a 50 dollar one that was recommended in /g/ and I it sucked, then I bought some mouse in some Chinese place for 3 or 4 dollars and I used it comfortably for years.
I guess I got screwed with that $50 mouse but I don't pay much attention to it.

>>714144328
>cheap wireless
chad(retard) brain can't notice 200ms latency it seems

Yep, it's kino.

I find it hilarious that retards spend all their savings on top-of-the-line hardware (especially monitors with highest possible refresh rates) and they still get dominated by people like me with cheap office shit

office peripherals are pure placebo

>>714144517
That enter key is deformed

>>714144528
I find it hilarious how hard poorfags try to cope here.

>>714144696
fat enter key is the superior version

>>714144614
it's cheap.

>>714142974
I have one of those. The keyboard shape and layout is extremely uncomfortable. The button quality is atrocious and the space is unusably bad. The mouse feels like utter shit on your hand and the scroll switches will wear out within hours. The cheapest logitech slop is infinitely more usable than this.

The difference between a cheap e-waste office mouse and an entry level gaming mouse is huge. There's literally no reason not to step up to the $30 tier and get something that's not complete dogshit.

The difference between an entry level gaming mouse and a $200+ gaming mouse is insignificant.

>>714143580
What about Corsair or Razer?.

>>714143580
TRVKE, I switch back to B100 after my logitech gaymen mouse double click after 6 months.

>>714145170
You are very wrong but I don't want to stop you from wasting your money.

>>714145338
There's plenty of sensor testing information available online. If you want to ignore it and pretend your $10 Dell mouse is great, and that makes you happy, then more power to you. Live your blessed retard life.

>>714145218
Already packed Vaseline into the scroll encoder of my corsair scimitar elite.

>been looking for a cheapass keyboard kit only so I can just grab the switches and keycaps from my old keyboard and put them in a new board
>almost every store have circumcised keyboards or are fully assembled ones
>newer ones have lcd screens and dials i dont need
i just wanna save money mang

>>714146085
You can buy kits. Retard.

>>714146085
Then why are you buying a kit? You can get a full size mechanical keyboard prebuilt for like $30.

>>714146371
because i still want to use my old switches and keycaps

>>714144751
>dropping an entire key because you're too fat to hit a normal-sized enter button

>>714142769 (OP)
>he didn't get the Lenovo Preferred Pro II for just 5$ more and got a chicklet piece of shit instead
ngmi

>>714146637
t. has a single spacebar

>>714142974
Because at absolute fucking minimum I need stabilizers that aren't crap and hotswap sockets that aren't by Outemu. I've had better barrel stabilizers on Model F keyboards than I have the average cheap mechanical, and barrel stabilizers are scratchy dogshit compared to lubed wire stabs.

>>714143580
I remember specifically avoiding the Logitech MX Vertical when moving on to vertical mice because they had bad reviews.

>>714146085
The cost still gets made up in getting a mildly nicer keyboard than if they had provided keycaps and switches

>>714143580
>meanwhile my ancient deathadder from 2014 that i have to use outdated software to use and my antique intellimouse 1.1 still work perfectly

>>714146773
Why did you get the indian flag colour scheme keyboard?

>>714146773
>troon keyboard
every time with you freaks and your chopped up keyboards

>>714146773
my hands are too big for those things, I really dislike them

>>714147101
>single spacebar pleb SEETHING
lol

>>714147136
Skill issue.

>>714147101
>cis keyboard suggestions
>look inside
>logitech F310 controller shitposts rebadged in keyboard form
spare me your rice burners

>>714147005
Deathadar line is possibly the best shooter mouse in the world. I upgraded to the v3. Thing is a beast. Light as a feather, has taken multiple beatings. Almost 2 years and still works as if i just took it out of the box. Its the only good razer product.

>>714147161
>unnecessary shit
>no function row
>no navigation keys
>no keypad
Is your chopped up keyboard an allegory for your chopped up dick?

>>714147240
Keep projecting poorfag tranny kek

Why are you trying so hard to be so contrarian.
Mechanical keyboard and wireless mouse is the way to go.

>>714147297
>doesn't deny its a troon
>starts projecting
YWNBAW

>>714147317
Haven't been able to go back to wired mice since wireless got good.

>>714147161
Can you play Mech Warrior with this keyboard on Xenia?

>>714147349
>STILL seething
You will never own a real keyboard, tranny.

>>714144517
I have used this for like 6 years no faults

>>714147406
ok troon, pretty telling that you're hiding your actual keyboard now after getting called out lmao

>>714147380
Probably. You can program the keys to do anything you want.

>>714147406
Pic not related, I'm guessing, battleships of that size are a sheer novelty to the point that specialty keycap kitting for them has only a couple of options.

>>714142769 (OP)
>>714142974
Now tell me what the n-key rollover is for either of these.

>>714147408
this. I'm done with """gaming""" keyboards
I type 150wpm on this at work every day too

>>714147406
Not him but that thing looks like a over designed peice of plastic. Just give me a standerd qwerty with decent build materials and fox switches and im happy.

>>714147371
For me it was the wire, I am very specific about how I like to place and move the mouse and the wire always annoyed me.
Performance is as good as wireless, if there is an actual difference I can not detect it.
Went to some of those latency testing websites and the wireless had the same performance.
Got it for relatively cheap too, almost 40 euros.

>>714147450
Shut the fuck up tranny lmao

>>714147503
How is having more keys "overdesigned". Sounds like cope.

>>714147550
not the one with the chopped keyboard, troon, but keep projecting

>>714147223
My Deathadder is a heavy boi. Almost as much as my Intellimouse, like God intended. What's nice about heavy mice is that you don't feel the cable.

>>714147525
Yeah 2.4ghz receivers are basically completely solved and even cheap chinky mice have them these days, I love it. Before I moved vertical mice to a M618XSD at a /v/irgin's recommendation I was using a generic branded TECKNET vertical mouse with wireless and it only ran me around $20.

>>714147450
>>714147550
Ladies, ladies. Shut the fuck up. You're both annoying trannies.

>>714147568
You will never be a woman :)

>>714147550
>>714147568
>>714147607
Quit arguing with yourself on your phone, I'll go to Youtube if I want to read Youtube comments.

>>714147525
Wires outside of braided ones have been of low quality recently.
Gaming mice in general always fails on the wire or the scroll wheel and even /v/s beloved logitech mice always fails on those

>>714147596
I'm a white man, thanks. That's why I use a battleship keyboard.

>>714147607
ok troon :)

>>714147587
>M618XSD
Weird looking mouse, can you play fps games using it?

>>714147694
see >>714147658
Dilate

>>714147696
After an adjustment period, mostly of acclimating to a vertical mouse in the first place and not specifically to the M618XSD, I'm about where I was for first-person games like Mordhau and TF2. I don't have any problems past that learning curve. I don't really do "high level play" per se but I'm decent at Mordhau and I'll generally be mid-high on scoreboards in TF2 pubs.

>>714147767
keep pretending its the keyboard you use instead of the chopped up one you first posted :)
you trannoids sure are good at pretending at who you aren't actually are

>>714147696
Your bones aren't supposed to twist like that

>soiteen was arguing with himself
of course

>>714147696
A normal mouse simulates touching things with your fingertips, and your physiology compliments this
Try to be precise with running the blade of your hand over something it's a lot harder because since birth you've been practicing touching and picking up things with your fingers, a normal mouse is much better

>>714147638
>Wires outside of braided ones have been of low quality recently.
Rubber wires are the only ones that don't start fraying or collect dust bunnies. Unless you strip off the braid and paracord it, it's heavier too.

>>714147831
Hence the super-ergonomic idea behind vertical mice. Use one for a few days and normal mice legit become very, very uncomfortable to go back to using again.
>>714147842
I actually chose that M618XSD mouse for that exact reason, without that goofy platform on the bottom (magnetically detachable) it's small enough that I can "fingertip grip" the mouse like a more typical one.

>>714147829
>tranny SEETHING because of the first image search result for "split spacebar keyboard"
lmao the projection is strong in this one

Not even 150 posts in and someone is already seething.

>>714147953
>posts tranny keyboard
>gets mad at being called a tranny
lmao troon

>>714147953
>trannies calling trannies trannies
this shit is so ass

>>714148004
>>714148025
>trannies desperately trying to associate themselves with everything good
Elden Ring, Steamdeck, Linux, New Vegas... We know what you're trying to do troon, it isn't working. :)

This is all you need

>>714148454
Based

keychron and monsgeek are the cheap ones that have full keyboards these days

I just got this
its my first mechanical keyboard and one of the cheapest ones I could find but I really like it
I cant imagine how those 100+ dollar ones feel
is there anywhere you can order individual colored keycaps? I just need like 8

>>714149071
And Kailh Box Pinks/Navys are the best clicky switches. Gateron blacks are the best linear switches. Cherry MX is actually the worst thing you can buy.

>>714142769 (OP)
Office mice is so kino for any 3rd person game. No extra buttons to bump, going to have a good DPI upon plugging in, just perfection.

>>714149248
ive been looking at akko's bittsersweet and cilantro switches for a while now

It has been almost 20 years since I got this one, and it is still going.

>>714149071
I would not call 100 bucks keyboards cheap, mine cost me 40.

anyone used a gmk104?

>>714147480
you playing OSU! or something?

>>714149594
Why is it dented?

>>714150083
It used to wear headphones.

>>714147939
>>714147831
That arm position image is almost a meme. The thing (from my mom's experience) with those mice is that instead of moving your wrist sideways, you move it up and down, so its useful to avoid or ease tendinitis

>>714144239
>Fartnite is actually cool and awesome
Kek

>>714147408
>>714147482
gaming keyboards suck, they're way more fragile than that cheap piece of plastic crap
and you get used to keyboard regardless of the mechanism, rubber dome or not

>>714151417
One hundred million keystrokes versus whatever a membrane can offer.

>>714151417
I swapped from membrane(laptop/older keyboards) and I personally can tell the difference.

>>714150081
Not him but I play clone hero with my keyboard (piano mode)

>>714142769 (OP)
No comment about office keyboard but $6 office mouse will destroy your hand and fingers in the long run
Just spent $10 and get a Temu superlight esport mouse like the VGNs

And how does a 100-200 dollar "gaming" mice make you play better?

>>714152979
it's a status symbol. do you really think that extra buttons on a mouse makes someone better?

A bit unrelated, but are cheap, wireless gamepads worth it? Is the latency too noticable?

>>714144328
Enjoy your bank details being packet sniffed by the retarded pajeet who lives next door

>>714153386
What even is n-key rollover? The first time I hear about this is in this thread.

>>714153341
just get a 2.4ghz one
bluetooth is spotty but the more updated versions should be alright

>>714153460
Old membranes have trouble with multiple simultaneous keypresses which doesn't matter for typing or most commands but vidya where you could be sprinting, moving diagonally, and trying to jump while using an item all at once will ghost some of your inputs. If you're on a membrane hold down both SHIFT keys and try to type

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG

>>714153635
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG

My mechanical keyboard is old but it still hasn't betrayed me playing Quake Live, UT2004, CS 1.6 and even the modern COD games.

>>714153765
>If you're on a membrane
glad we established reading comprehension first

>>714142974
Because that looks ugly as fuck

>>714153635
craptop keyboard go!
HE QUIK BROWN DOG JUPS OER HE LA DOG

>>714153798
Shitty mid-2000s membrane keyboard here
>THE QICK BROWN OX JMPS OVER THE LAZY OG
Can you pinpoint what model this is from which keys can't be combined?

>>714142769 (OP)
>Yup, it's wagey time

>120€ ultralight wireless gaming mouse
>5€ office keyboard
Yup, it's gaming time.

not a fan of membrances after my old one broke a bunch of keys and having to meticulously glue them to the board was a pain

>>714153878
I'm sure theres some kind of way to identify it but I don't know, i've seen so many different variations of what does and doesn't work.

Mine doesn't do the spacebar at all.
TUICKBRONFOXJUMPSOVRTLAZDOG

>>714153885
>hmm yes i think ill buy the Niggatech G69420 gaming mouse for $400, that will surely improve gaming performance
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE BUTTONS DON'T WORK AFTER JUST 3 MONTHS????? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

>>714154112
shoulda bought the chinkX mice

>>714154340
I'd rather run a random Terminal script as Admin from an Indian Windows how-to Youtube video than run whatever keylogging software the chinks have for their keyboards and mice.

>>714142769 (OP)
yup

>>714151667
>One hundred million keystrokes
yeah right lmao

>>714151834
I've used mechanical kbs and normal kbs (laptop and rubber dome) and you get used to both after a while. Use your brain, faggot. Mechanical cucks are just like audiopedophiles.

stay humble

>>714154601
I could swear I was the only one using phone earbuds instead of a headset. Headsets cause my ears to hurt after 30 minutes of wearing them.

>>714154601
this is perfect kek
>>714154704
k120 chads we keep winning

only autists buy those expensive mice
>nooo bro you NEED to have 20 buttons on the side of your mouse!
nah i'm good with three buttons. in fact, I remember back when there was no middle mouse button either. what good at 20 tiny-ass buttons on the side of a mouse gonna do me when my thumb is more likely to smoosh multiple tiny buttons? same problem Playstation Controllers (those things are made for tiny 5 year old japanese children hands)

why do high performance peripherals come with all this cancerous GAYMING rgb cancer

I love PC gaming with my cheap mouse and keyboard!
Theres never any need to push 3 keys at the same time so membrane keyboards are just better.
My mouse might have a 50ms click delay but I dont mind because it looks good on my budget IPS screen.

>>714154782
I remember back when we didn't have mice

>this mechanical keyboard will perfectly match my bedroom ACK

>>714154671
theres a difference between getting used to two thhings and knowing the difference between those two
take your own advice and use your own brain, tardo

>>714154857
joystick with one button. gaming peaked here

>>714142769 (OP)
I'm about to spend 1900 dollars on flight sim peripherals.

>>714155117
No, it peaked before we even had Joysticks. We even had tie in games back then too.

>>714155026
are you so retarded that knowing the subtle difference between a mechanical and a non-mechanical affects your ability to use a keyboard? if not then it doesn't matter

>>714142974
A keyboard this cheap will feel like shit and break after a month.

>>714155309
Pinball machines are still so fucking good
Im surprised you dont see them around anymore. Maintainence on new machines would be much cheaper, Feels like an easy way to get money

>>714156710
Now that you mention it, I don't see them too often at barcades either. Or if they do have them it's an afterthought.

>>714155742
>knowing the subtle difference between a mechanical and a non-mechanical affects your ability
where did i say that? are you projecting?
all im saying is there's a difference between mechanical and membrane.

>>714159295
yes, and it doesn't matter

>>714159406
>are you so retarded that knowing the subtle difference between a mechanical and a non-mechanical affects your ability
>yes
so you're the retarded one thinking that way ok.
nice strawman btw, get your shit straight

>>714159457
nice reddit fallacy btw, you're trying too hard to sound smart

>>714155267
Is it even possible to play shit like DCS without all of the pheripherals such as TrackIR and flight controls?

>>714142769 (OP)
For a while i've been using a mouse without any side buttons which is fine usually but some games it would be nice to have them and there's one game I play they are pretty much vital, I saw a dirt cheap gaymer mouse with some side buttons in a shop yesterday and brought it but holy shit I can tell why it was dirt cheap this thing feels like utter trash to hold, I'll use it for the one game that really demands side buttons and probably nothing else

>>714154845
>sprinting
>moving forward
>oops need to press a third button to throw a grenade