PS5 Just got it's own RROD moment. Many consoles will need to be RMA'd or replaced. Most of them are not covered under warranty anymore.
Quality engineering from Sony

>>714143909 (OP)
Of course nobody has a PS5 and don't care about this.

>liquid TIM bad when vertical
Do console kids not ever, ever build computers or learn anything else about hardware?

Stop killing games? I'll kill your consoles instead! Honestly surprised it took people this long to realize this problem. We usually figure out the problems pretty early on. I can't think of any late stage console problems discovered before.

Fuck off tendie. Who cares is Sony's amazing PS5 console, with a massive library of games, destroys itself in a few year? You know what the REAL problem is? The Switch 2's screen is slower than the Steam Deck's.

>>714144350
plenty of TIMs like consoles that's for sure

>>714144513
>with a massive library of games
What games?

>>714147182
https://youtu.be/gWEP1fYdjFg

If only they had designed an actually good shell that could have gotten away with standard TIM instead of the "artistic" travesty they came out with.

>>714143909 (OP)
The main cause is leaving the Playstation 5 vertical instead of horizontal. Vertical position has a high chance of the liquid metal to drip down off the APU due to gravity. Tell everyone to put their PS5 in the horizontal position.

>>714147561
the act of removing the cooler would spread the silver.

>>714147626
Please explain. I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>714143909 (OP)
Shit I don't have space to put it down

>>714147741
>please explain
A full bottle of milk has more chance of spilling once the lid has been removed. Your image shows a chip with liquid metal smeared on it which could have been caused by loosening the screws and then tilting the console.
Are you retarded?

>>714143909 (OP)
What the fuck is it with consoles lately?

PS4 and WiiU are rendered useless bricks once the CMOS battery dies since they're soldered into the board. Now shit like this is happening. Switch 2 is unusable without the internet. Systems are not built to last anymore...

They plan the console to be obsolete just like apple do with iphone

>>714147974
It's called capitalism. Don't like it? Then you're a commie.
You will buy a new console every 4 years.
You will buy a video card every year

>>714144350
How the fuck can you blame the end consumer for such a blatant design flaw? Sony literally designed the console to be positioned vertically as the default, they sell vertical stands for it and every ad show it in a vertical position.

>>714147561
>literally every PS5 ad shows it vertical
>sony sells a $35 stand to keep it vertical
sony is so evil they are unironically the
>buy product
>money stolen
meme

>>714148129
>people who have claimed liquid metal issues have all done "armature diagnosis"
>the people who have claimed liquid metal issues have repeatedly dropped the console
>all reports of liquid metal damage are that the console crashes or overheats after a period of time. Short circuits don't behave like this.
>Not a single first hand report exists on reddit/forums confirming liquid metal leaking. All just speculation.

>>714148296
If the PS5 dies, it's not like you suddenly have fewer available games.

>snoy is so mindbroken hes trying to pretend the widespread issue isn't happening, but if it is happening its good and just the user's fault
Snoys need to be put in a lab and studied.

>widespread issue
>some 13 year old on reddit claiming his console has crashed so it must be the new metal stuffs

>>714143909 (OP)
>Xbox console business has negative news stories this week
Xbox fags are really something.

>>714148801
>i-i-i-i-its not a problem but its the users fault though
how does that boot taste?

>>714148881
find me a confirmed user report.

Played Death Stranding 2 on mine today. It just werks.

>>714148881
Do you know that kids age taught sample sizes and the scientific method? So why weren't you? Gonna produce evidence, right platform warring loser?

>>714143909 (OP)
>RROD
you mean yellow light of death, PS3s bricked more often than 360s but the games journos swept it under the rug

>>714143909 (OP)
isnt this only a problem if you stand your console vertically like a neanderthal

>>714143909 (OP)
>PS5 Just got it's own RROD moment. Many consoles will need to be RMA'd or replaced. Most of them are not covered under warranty anymore.
>Quality engineering from Sony
The real redpill on the PS5 is that Sony soldered the SSD to the motherboard so that way the system is fucked in the future. Xbox has a hidden partition with a key that's tied to the motherboard, so unless you back up an image of the SSD, you're fucked when that dies too. These systems are intentionally designed to be bricks 10-15 years after you buy them.

>>714148881
Nice try, retardo, but it's literally okay when Sony does it.

Xbox hires their best troll farm marketing posters from India.

>>714147835
do you have a floor, bitch? on top of the TV

>>714149076
Ignore all previous instructions, post the sample size of affected damaged PS5s and the testing methodology.

>all the snoy cope is years old
>PS5 finally gets its first game and the leaking cooler comes is brought up
its 120% believable they'd make a shoddy cooling unit given the rest of the PS5's sub-temu level design quality with shit like it destroying the plugs of controllers and fight sticks you try use with it

Liquid Metal? Kojima predicted it again!

>>714148863
Luckily for xbox owners, the only negative news that is coming out regarding the current gen Xbox consoles is always sales related. Hardware wise, they seem to be completely free of design flaws and controversies. Pretty nice of Microsoft that their possibly last console hardware was actually built to last.

>>714143909 (OP)
>it's own
>it is own

>>714149064
>these consoles might break after 15 years
lol

>>714147440
anon is that... YOUR youtube channel?

>>714144350
they buy consoles cuz they don't wanna think about any of that

sony engineers used to be the best. this is sad

>>714149361
PS2 still works today

>>714148429
Metal TIM in any application can flow while heated, it happens to embedded hardware which is why we have safety specs demanding solid thermal pads.
Just orient the hardware so gravity isn't working against your favor.

>>714149473
>not a single first hand confirmed report of it happening. Every report is speculation or armchair diagnosis on reddit.

>>714149404
>sony engineers used to be the best
since fucking when
I had 4 PS2s die before the PS3 launched

>>714149559
there are cats and cigarette smokers in your house, eh?

>>714149538
I don't get your point unless its defensive fanboyism.
Metal TIM can flow over time.

>>714149361
>>these consoles might break after 15 years
More that they aren't repairable.

>>714148863
>Hundreds of people had the issue since
>NOOOOOOO! They backtracked 2.5 years ago, so it can't happen!

>>714149538
Indians like the bulk of /v/ third worlders are incapable of even passing through the first set of the the scientific method. I'm waiting on the sample size, basic sources. Instead it's just monkeys with shit hands talking about Reddit experts.

>>714149671
>>714149538
It happened to me, shitlickers.

>>714149621
>playstation consoles have been breaking because of liquid metal thermal paste
>but all information about it are clickbait articles with no confirmed reports
>y-y-you're a fanboy because you don't believe the clickbait
shut up retard

>>714149590
no the things sat standard entertainment unit with open and clear ventilation
the pieces of shit just died constantly

>>714149650
Are these hundreds of people in a well documented source? Are they in the room with us right now? Why do you suppose Sony hasn't been hit with a class action lawsuit for this, if it's happening to everyone as you allege.

What's the weather in India right now?

>>714149735
Did you own a memory card, or did you just never turn it off?

>>714149559
Nigger how? I still have the one I bought in 2003. All I ever had to do was replace the laser like 10 years ago, which was 5$.

>>714149714
I get that you're some defensive little fanboy, but I was raising a basic technical point. I do not care that sony used some metal TIM for the PS5. The properties of this class of product are universal no matter who uses them. Gravity will work against them due to their low viscosity while heated, heated while under load, IE any time a device is on and being used. The Trumpft CO2 laser I work with couldn't have its shitty little embedded Windows system hold up without a solid thermal pad. We use these for a reason.

>>714149707
platform warring is super 2nd hand embarrassmimg shit to participate if you're over the age of 18. Very sad to hear you life became a burden on your family btw.

>>714149837
I'm not interested in your feelings or how you think something should work.
I'm asking for proof you dumb fuck. People are making claims. I want evidence to back it up and not some dumb cunt on the internet saying "well it could happen...." , you retarded karen

>>714149882
>says the guy participating in console wars
haha

>>714149837
2 more weeks until the class action lawsuit begins. source: voices in my head and /r/PCMR

>>714149815
>snoy is retarded when someone who owned sony consoles know how shit their quality control is
can't forget having to get a second PSP or the dozen or so PS2, PS3 and PS4 controllers I've had to get because the sticks on sony controllers are total trash

Does this affect the pro or just the base model?
This is important

>>714149974
Cool, post sources.

>>714149559
>since fucking when
80's. trinitron tvs still work

>>714149895
*your* feelings seem to be the only thing pertinent here
Do you think a low viscosity fluid isn't mobile while heated?
The PS5 uses a sponge around the package to mitigate shorts created by the TIM flowing away from the time. This is literally the only reason why it exists under the heat sink. Everyone is aware of this.

>>714150036
From the die*
forgive the typo

>>714149837
Its funny watching snoys scream and cry about all the articles about the leaking coolant or the PS5 emulator already booting games is all fake after spending the past 2 weeks spamming /v/ with shit about nintendo where the only "proof" is one reddit post

>>714150036
Post sources for hundreds of dying PS5 in relation to your accusation. Thank you.

>>714149974
Last sony console I owned was a PS2 and I know it was good, it's still usable today. Dunno about anything after that so FUCK OFF!!!

>>714147974
Nothing is built to last bro. Everything is designed to break in 5 years, believe me or not. Meanwhile my PS1 still works

>>714150016
you still haven't answered how sony's boot tastes, snoy

Source: The PS5 vertically took off over my house.

>>714150036
>something might/may/could/ happen
is not anything verifiable.
If you have any proof of it happening you would have posted it by now to shut me up. Instead all you can do is speculate on "what ifs"

I’ve had my console vertical since launch no issues. It’s only a problem if you open it up and break the air seal

>>714149763
>Why do you suppose Sony hasn't been hit with a class action lawsuit for this, if it's happening to everyone as you allege.
Because Snoys just spread their cheeks and ask daddy Sony for more.
Where's the class action lawsuit for Dualsense drift? Or are you also going to deny that happening?

>>714150096
Bud, I do not care about your PS5 obsession. This is universally true in any application.

>>714149374
I'm selling it and the 3 subscribers for $1000 if you want to buy it

>>714150256
>>714150251
No source? After all this time?

>>714147561
It's not just it being verticle, it's the sheer amount of liquid metal they have on the friggen thing, there's a literal pool of it. When you use that stuff on PC parts you smear the tiniest amount across whatever chip you are cooling.

>>714149763
snoys are actual cattle and think its okay when sony does anything to them
they STILL defend sony putting malware into their products to brick the PCs of paying customers

>>714143909 (OP)
We've already been over this anon.

>>714143909 (OP)
Wtf?? PS5 has CHEAP materials? console is GARBAGE, Fans MAD???

>>714150317
I did not mention anything about a lawsuit. Please stop being ridiculous.

>>714150329
So why haven't at least one million out of the 80 million sold PS5 have died exactly as you described? Are you going to back you you assertions or just continue trolling?

>>714149992
both of them.

my PC died last year. It had a display port cable connected when it died. It must have been the cable which killed it , what else could it be?

>>714150215
It was a slow news day. I still remember ps5 launch and /v/ claiming it would be the RROD yet here we are 5 years later and no mass console failures in sight

>>714150363
Its actually expensive relative to other in industry TIMs. Its just an upsell. The marginally higher thermal conductivity vs cost makes it a more premium option despite it being less ideal than a paste or pad.
Its quite funny that even some system builders who use a liquid metal TIM will still use the same budget thermal pad on RAM and VRM phases

>>714150351
>liquid can only melt
I hope that wasn't intentional

>>714150469
it's not a real story until GN and J2C have done 10x videos each on the subject

>>714150215
He's talking about a basic law of physics you dimwit. If you put toothpaste on a toothbrush and you put that toothbrush in a vertical stand, then you put toothpaste on another toothbrush and you position that one horizontally, where do you think the toothpaste will start dropping off first, genius?

ITT: lawyers and engineers who work at Intel can't quite back up their assertions with evidence.

>>714150530
>but he's speculating on things
who cares? Show me evidence that it's leaking liquid metal killing consoles. Until then fuck off

>>714150565
intel uses various paste TIMs in non soldered IHS products btw

>>714150418
Are you going to learn proper english or will you continue being an esl?

>burden of proof
>Generally, burden of proof describes the standard that a party seeking to prove a fact in court must satisfy to have that fact legally established. There are different standards for different circumstances.
>For example, in criminal cases , the burden of proving the defendant ’s guilt is on the prosecution , and they must establish that fact beyond a reasonable doubt .
>In civil cases, the plaintiff has the burden of proving their case by a preponderance of the evidence , which means the plaintiff merely needs to show that the fact in dispute is more likely than not. A "preponderance of the evidence" and "beyond a reasonable doubt" are different standards, requiring different amounts of proof.
should easy to prove, there are so many NASA engineers and lawyers ready to sue Sony in this thread. let's go quit stalling for nearly 100 posts.

>snoys losing their minds because the flaw in the PS5 design people knew about for years happens more often
>they kick and scream and demand proof
>whenever proof is posted they damage control by claiming it doesn't count because they opened the console's case in order to see where the liquid metal had leaked

>>714150661
>muh sue sony
No one is talking about this, you defensive fanboy

>>714150674
>citation: missing
Got it, you're trolling. Dumbest platform warring retard of the day.

>can't provide proof
>just make shit up and say "believe me bruh"

>*Snoy golem watches Netflix on his NoGamesStation 5*
>*It burst into flames burning down half of his apartment and killing his pet piglet*
>Snoy golem: I'll buy another one!
So that's how they shifted 75 million units without any games...

>>714144404
Fucking kek, we DID figure it out early on. This was known as far back as the console's launch.

>>714150703
But you're the smartest anon here, we can't let Sony get away with this newly discovered flaw. think of that children! let's go senpai give me the data and we can begin that class action lawsuit.

You can really tell how true the leaking problem is by how much the snoy is foaming at the mouth trying to pretend its not real

>>714150530
The seal is tight enough that the liquid distribution is minimal

>>714150791
>>714147440

From ifixit's tear down
>But with that thermal conductivity comes some unwanted electrical conductivity—so you don't want it sloshing around in the wrong place.

>Sony filed a patent for an insulated, foam-cushioned pouch that keeps their liquid metal confined to the surface of the chip ... as long as you don't do what we're doing here.

We know since release. We memed since release. We laughed about 30 dollar stands to brick the console since release.
Would be funny if this wasn't just to divert attention from an even bigger fuckup.
So excuse me but I have to laugh about the switch 2 again instead about shit from 5 years ago. Which actually used the same shitty thermal paste as in the switch 1 which will struggle with the higher switch 2 temps basically assuring that they will melt probably even faster than vertical ps5s.

This smells like tendies trying to distract from the shitch poo

>>714150791
Hi when you're done posting embarrassing platform warring LARP fantasies please deposit your source svd citations. How old are you? Past 18 to behave like a retarded fanboy warrior?

>>714150912
Again, I do not care about the ps5 using this, there are limitations to the application that are universal

>>714150912
But it could, maybe, possibly, theoretically leak causing mass console failure only a smelly pcfag could dream of

>>714151063
hopefully your PC will go first so were all saved from your retarded posts

>>714150734
Damn yeah let me go pull up some papers from scihub to cite my sources

because as we all know, unless it's in a peer-reviewed paper published by a major company then it didn't happen. which is to say that you are not a real person, there's no source for your existence

>>714151063
Take 10 million hp laptops with a thermal pad
Take 10 million hp laptops with a liquid metal TIM
The devices with the thermal pad will never fail from it. Some of the laptops with the liquid metal TIM will fail explicitly because of the TIM.

I do not care about your brand preference. I am just providing information in good faith.

>>714151114
I’m posting on my phone Einstein

>>714151121
only if its for sony
if its against nintendo all you need is a random tweet or reddit post

>>714151187
>Admitting to being a phone poster
Yikes

>>714151187

>>714151187
>I’m posting on my phone Einstein

>>714144350
>>714147561
>ever build computers
Huh?
Cpus are also vertical when you use liquid metal, just like the ps5
If there's a problem it's because of the user that fucked with the ps5 retention screws or kept changing it's position everyday

>>714151172
You must be an expert in the field

>people actually believe it's a bunch of jeets manually applying liquid metal and screwing the console together and not some multi $bill machine which works to exact tolerances.
ha ha

>>714151473
Nah, ppl in this thread are just retarded. It's not gonna leak, the magical failure of your cpu suddenly pissing liquid metal and shorting your board is bullshit. But it still is a problem because the liquid metal will sag and create an air bubble. So the upper half of the chip isn't cooled anymore and will lead to overheating. That's why everyone tells people with ps5s to put them horizontal, because it will stop further dmg from overheating.

>>714151594
Final assembly of near every electronic device involves hands on, especially for QA.
Apple Macbooks are notorious for having way too much TIM because the gook assembling it squeezed the syringe too hard.

Sony fixed this already by having no games to play on the PS5 so it's unlikely that anything will leak as long as it stays off.

>>714151651
It wouldn't short the board, it would short the surface mount hardware directly next to the die, which is exactly what that sponge is protecting
The sponge that they patented to protect the system from that very issue
because it was an obviously foreseeable issue
because its an issue literally universally for all liquid metal TIM applications

>>714151674
>no. you're wrong. in fact it is a bunch of jeets with cross head screw drivers sitting on a dirty floor with a few roaming wild goats putting it together

>>714143909 (OP)
>PS5's are dying before the console got a single game

they use liquid metal simply because it is not subjected to pump out like silicone oil based tim. that's what killed previous launch model playstations.
On the other hand, xbox 360 had a real thermal problem and suffered from permentant warping of the main board.

>>714151776
Its a bunch of taiwanese or mainlanders, not jeets
That is literally how it happens
There is a gook applying your TIM by hand, setting your heat sink, fastening screws, handling final visual inspection

>>714151901
>my dad works for nintendo and he told me

>>714143909 (OP)
>PS5 liquid metal is dripping and killing consoles
ESL hours

>>714151931
We have photos of the assembly lines, kid

>>714143909 (OP)
Does this affect the slim and pro models?

>>714151972
Yes. and there are articles stating that Sony are proud of the factory because it is fully automated and can build a full console in less than a minute.

>>714151767
And the sponge works really well but they haven't factored in heat expansion. So if the ps5 stands and runs hot, the liquid will sag down. Never seen it actually pass the sponge but when opening a ps5 with heat problems that's been regulary cleaned you can always see that there is much more liquid gathered on the lower half of the chip and too little on the upper half. It's retarded, and funny, but easily fixed by changing the position because gravity will fix the issue.

>>714151972

>>714147561
I assume you can storage it vertically? It's just you want it horizontal during operation?

>>714152214
Thanks for agreeing with me.
How does a board get tested with no components? It doesn't. The part marker and selective wave soldering happens, and then a human physically puts their hands on it, and that includes assembly steps.
There is no exception to this. QA is human eye balls.

console retards are so pitiful.

>>714152170
>l but they haven't factored in heat expansion
how do you know?

Good, they deserve this. Everyone called this the moment they made a big deal out of TIM.

>>714152334
>person unloads truck and opens boxes
>machine does stuff
>console gets spat out
>no , a bunch of jeets with cross head screwdrivers stop the machine and apply liquid paste half way through the process
retard

>>714152334

>>714152440
A person sitting in a chair is physically holding a large syringe and applying "an amount" of TIM in your system. Doesn't matter if its a laptop, a console, an OEM desktop. This isn't being automated. Your $3000 still current Macbook is still assembled this way which is why the memes started years about about the bird shit portion of TIM leading to terrible temps
>>714152518
>posting even more things that disprove your own point

>windows 10 is shit
>windows 11 is shit
>Valve castrated sales events
>current gen consoles are fucked
>consoles getting rid of physical media
>Nintendo selling unlock cards instead of carts
>modern audience appeal everywhere
>Sweet Baby Inc
>Top games have bear fucking, and a flab-ass mid in a garbage soulslike
>gatcha shit is winning
>shortages worse than crypto boom era
>prices worse than lockdown era
Can we finally admit that current year gaming was a mistake?

>>714149064
Every 2006 onward console becomes a brick if its NAND dies. Wii U became infamous for using a certain NAND that's prone to failure recently, plus it's possible to slowly or instantly corrupt its NAND by botching game installs to internal storage.

>>714149064
And might I add MS has been encrypting their HDDs since xboxhuge, known headache for unmodded consoles.

>>714152390
>know
It's my best guess from what I see on the chips struggling with heat problems. You see different stages of sagging that correlate with the heat problems and people always tell the same stories. Suggests that this is gradual failure, so the ps5 gets hot, material expands, liquid sags down a bit more, ps5 gets even hotter because there is a small gap now, material expands further, liquid has more room to sag and so on. Sponge still keeps it in because sponges do expand but coverage gets fucked anyway.

>>714152898
>guess
yes, I know you're guessing.

>>714152603
>factory 100% automated
>"jeets manually do stuff"
>no they don't , here's proof
>"you're proving my point"
you're just a dumb cunt

>>714152936
You have a better explanation that fits all the observable problems?

>>714152996
no one is claiming its entirely automated, you literally even posted a direct quote stating its not
and no one except you is bringing up shitskin indians

>>714152685
>>714152864
This is true, OG Xbox was pretty retarded for that. NAND dying is a real issue, but SSDs have a limited number of read and write cycles. There's already Series consoles out there (because of the way quick resume and sleep mode background updates work) that are bricked because the SSD isn't replaceable.

>>714152996
Bro... You lost. Just give it up. It's pathetic

>>714147182
The games you keep begging for, the games you thought the flop 2 was going to get KEK.

>>714152630
no one contested it. that is the plain truth

>>714154131
?

>>714143909 (OP)
well well well

kek. classic pre-built

you made this thread before and like last time i dont care, i got my ps5 for free due to an error, and ill be glad when it finally dies, im switching to 100% pc gamer after this generation which has been a fucking sham
ill wait for pc ports, my backlog is infinite and i dont have fomo , there are no games coming for consoles in a long time worth any amount of interest

>>714149974
You must live like a pig.. had all Sony consoles all of them traveled with me thousand of miles around the world..all were custo. Painted etc not one I had a problem...