Thread 714153823

Gamers are finally rising up
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

It's joever.

>>714153823 (OP)
You fuckers know what's coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of paranoid and delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This is going to be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This won't be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this won't even be the corpo vs government clash either, this will come entirely at your expense. They WILL fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as the glowie that he clearly is. Why else would he go to such lengths to push this shit and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games? Why else has there been such a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from this clear glowie psy op? They know now that they can get some headway and they've been going into overdrive to push for this and you idiots are falling for it.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you to not sign this shit. Don't give it attention, don't give it any time of day. This shit has so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you aren't throwing away your personal information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time when this is over?

>>714153919
I'm sorry Schlomo, your corpos will bend the knee to the European gamers or die

>>714153919
Shouldn't the government also be cracking down on scammers as well though?
Is that not what laws are for?

>>714153905
Where's this from?

>>714153919
Other way around.
There are millions of people gladly buying into scams and I want the government to wrangle those tards.

>>714153919
This is for developers and consumers, nobody wants to put out a game that had 4+ years of development for no one to be able to play it ever.

The only one against this are people that think it's retroactive (fucking retarded, obviously it isn't) and publishers that lose a small amount of control on what happens after they want to pull the plug.

>>714153919
>>714154025
Jesus Christ you guys have been trying hard lately.
You ARE fucking scared.
Good. Very good.

>>714153905
FUCKING SWEDE
GET OFF FUCKING /g/ AND MAKE A VIDEO GODDAMN IT! YOUR ARCHLINUX CAN FUCKING WAIT!

>>714153919
I bet you fucking seethe at the fact your waterways aren't being used to dump chemicals.

rome has awoken

help me government i am retarded i can't stop buying scams!

The kike fears the europoor

its funny seeing these threads being spammed every 10 minutes just for them to get banned instantly. please keep e-celebrity threads out of /v/ pls!

>>714153823 (OP)
I work for a massive publisher.

You idiots won't change a thing. The attitude inside a massive publisher is "yeah, the games suck and the microtransactions suck, but they pay the bills". Like that's literally what is said in our massive meetings and even the lowest totem pole workers know that's how it is. We know the games suck, but hey pay the bills.

It is unfortunate that I work for a company that takes advantage of people that can't control their finances, but I haven't found a new job yet that has similar pay or benefits.

You won't change shit with some stupid twitter campaign.

PEOPLE. KEEP. BUYING. MICROTRANSACTIONS.

PEOPLE KEEP PAYING $120 TO PLAY GAMES 3. DAYS. EARLY.

You won't change anything. PEOPLE KEEP BUYING THIS GARBAGE.

Unless you can educate people on finances so they stop buying $10 loot boxes every single paycheck, then NOTHING. WILL. CHANGE. IDIOTS SHOVEL MONEY INTO OUR POCKETS AND WE ALL HATE THE GAMES WE MAKE BUT YOU MONKEYS KEEP BUYING THIS SHIT AND PAYING OUR BILLS.

>>714154240
his youtube channel -> posts

>>714153905
woooo

>>714153919
>SAAARS YOU MUST ALLOW OUR SCAMS! MOTHER BLOODY BENCHOD!!

at this point im wondering when the first corporate sponsored hitpiece from Kotaku or Polygon drops or some major faggot like Schreier comes in to defend their masters
>ENTITLED GAMERS SEEK TO FORCE SLAVE LABOR ON POOR COMPANIES TO KEEP SUPPORTING GAMES
somehow i think this is serious and the reason such a article hasnt come out is because they know it will fuel a extra 100k votes on the initiative

>>714153919
Once you have lived among the dregs of society you will learn that state intervention is the only way to save them from their own idiocy. They will never be intelligent enough to avoid scams or to avoid vices like alcohol, drugs, cigarettes, gambling etc. This is why the state must intervene to save them from themselves. The next time you see someone in possession of illicit drugs you should report them to the police, you will be doing them a favour in the long-run.

>>714154540
kek literal workers from big companies coming here to cry like babies, holy shit get fucked

>>714154705
Have you maybe considered that it's a shitposter?
Seriously I feel like I'm standing side by side with literal schizophrenics.

>>714154540
>b-but mic-
Nobody cares, just like nobody cares about your microdick
You can do mtx. You just gotta make sure the game has an end of life plan. Just follow through.

>>714153919
>scamming people is good
why are brown """people""" like this?

>>714154628
>the masses are stupid
>the solution? let the masses enforce their own stupidity thanks to the power of the state

>>714154540
>self-confessed paycheck thief
>thinking whales browses a mongolian basket weaving board
You don't have to flaunt your low IQ this hard.

>>714154802
yes, that's why gambling and drug laws exist, the masses are stupid and need regulation

>>714153823 (OP)
Reminder: this is advertising/begging.

>>714154802
No, the solution is to keep them from ruining their own lives and the lives of others. I've been trying for years to get Singapore-style drug laws enacted in my country. It's the only way to keep them from fucking everything up.

>>714154705
>>714154784
>>714154835
you fucking retards don't even realize it's a copypaste from these very threads

just shut up and don't reply if you're going to be morons

>>714154837
Gambling laws exists to make it a state-affiliated monopoly.
Drug laws exists cause the state couldn't control substances everyone could make.
You beginning to see a pattern?

>>714154573
Nice, wasn't sure if it was legit

>>714154837
In my eu state gambling and drig laws are state monopolies and still get advertisement with people smoking cigarettes and gambling at higher prices more than before.

What did you solved?

>>714154540
*puts my hand on the giant vagina worm alien's face*

it's scared

The solution is simple: private servers. Just make it a policy that games need the ability to host your own servers for games so that you can play in perpetuity. 90s era FPS are still played because they allowed for this.

>>714154973
>Drug laws exists cause the state couldn't control substances everyone could make.
No, they exist because the substances are harmful and people will kill themselves and others if left alone with it.

>>714154540
>You idiots won't change a thing.
>You won't change shit with some stupid twitter campaign.
>You won't change anything.
>NOTHING. WILL. CHANGE.
OK. So why are you yelling at us to stop?
lol
lmao
Get fucked.

>>714154896
By allowing a million of people amongst hundreds of millions to decide for everyone?

>>714154993
>>714154973
lets make heroin legal, not my problem if drug related deaths skyrocket

>>714154798
>work regular job in poor country
>barely survive
>pull off one scam
>set for a year

>>714155032
retard

>>714155070
>people will kill themselves and others if left alone with it.
Oh, you must mean religion right, based retard?

>>714154025
You need to pay me to read that drivel

>>714153905
Ross' mold powers have blessed him, we may escape the bad end timeline yet.

>>714153823 (OP)
>rising up
>commie shit

>>714155032
This is already a thing i can be happy about, but still i don't want interventism i want people to detatch from corporate influence.

>>714155105
Yes? Who cares if addicts die? Legitimate question?
Why should I have to pay taxes to fuel their hedonism?

>>714153823 (OP)
As a vidya developer I'm not going to sign it. Whoever makes the game should be able to do with it as they damned please. The standard nowadays is online server-based games and those are expensive to maintain.

If you want games to stay alive then KEEP PAYING FOR VIDEOGAMES you fucking losers

>>714155116
That's just Islam, which is something I also want to be banned.
>>714155104
Sure. Why not?

>>714154025
This sounds exactly like the 'If you tax the rich, they'll flee the country' type fake fear monger.

>>714153905
>do what retarded eceleb says

LONG LIVE COMMUNISM
BING BANG WAHOO

>>714155183
You've reposted this in every thread, and every thread people have told you this doesn't actually require the developers keep the servers up online

Reminder EU laws are the reason why the internet is as shit as it is currently. I don't buy ubislop GAAS, but I can't wait until EU somehow infects their bearucracy into the games that deserve my money.

>>714155105
>not my problem if drug related deaths skyrocket
No let it stay illegal so cartels can keep dismembering people for that.

lmaoing at all the ferretfucker supporters ITT that are trying to do damage control because the tard who they've developed a parasocial relationship with became a lolcow.

>>714154798
they are evil little subhuman creatures

>>714155178
so you admit that the masses need regulation or they kill themselves, case closed

>>714155201
Okay, let me rephrase that for you, you seem american.
>people will kill themselves and others if left alone with it.
Oh, you must mean corn syrup and fat-heavy food, right, based retard?

>>714153919
>some people are stupid
>therefore, scams should be legal
Post nose now

>>714153919
>>714154025
>>714154540
>>714154895
>>714155168
Samefag.
I can smell you miles away.

>>714155307
I'm not American. Why are you coping so hard over drugs? Are you an addict?

>>714155283
No? If people want to commit sudoku by heroin, why should I care? Are you arguing that the state should control if you get to live?
Are you a communist?

>>714155259
The need to call the state for every problem will be the downfall of gaymers, but i guess it's how the world works.

>>714153905
>It's actually fucking real

>>714154446
lines up with the fact that two websites made an article about it
italians care but they can't be bothered to learn english

>>714155353
You won't say that when someone kills you while using methamphetamine or due to marijuana induced psychosis.

>>714155352
>still deflecting
I accept your concession, based retard.

>>714155201
>Sure. Why not?
Ok, then what makes you think a corporation with a lot of money has no friends in the state? If antone can do lobbies i could push whatever bullshit i want.

>>714155408
Your post does not apply to me if I am not American, so I cannot argue your maple syrup comment in earnest. Sorry, Thor.

>>714154540
>You idiots won't change a thing.
If it's true, you wouldn't be this angry

>>714154096
In what communist unpatriotic atheist shithole muslim transgender country you live where givernment should do anything? Everyone is on their own. If you can help yourself, just simply die and make space for real humans

>this is communism
>you don't want to get the government involved in this trust me bro
>you aren't a dirty commie are you?
>this is government overreach
>it has always been a service
>nothing will change if it goes through
>companies will just circumvent it
>read the fine print better next time
>eceleb supports this so you must do the opposite
>poor companies will have to expend extra money and effort
>consumer protection laws are communism

>>714155336
retard

>>714155104
Yes? The few impose their will on the many, that's how it works.
>b-but muh democracy
I don't believe in democracy faggot, I believe in making you do what I tell you at gunpoint.

>>714155447
Try it. That may work in the US, but it does not work in white countries.

>>714155173
Regulations are GOOD and reigns in corporations.

>after a certain amount of time all games need to have the ability to host private servers for games

They hate doing that because they want 100% control over the games. We never talked about old games "dying", because you can ask a buddy if he wants to play Quake 3, and you just do it even if it's 2025. a modern game is tied to corporate servers, thus it will die the second they yank it.

Concord? Dead immediately like it didn't even exist.

>>714153905
oh shit it's real. Gaming Jesus has blessed us. Gaming Judas will suffer the consequences of his own hubris.

>>714155336
OH MY GOVERNMENT SHILLS

We're still a disgrace but it looks like we're at least going to limp over 100%.

>>714153905
Someone put Ubisoft's CEO on suicide watch! Videogame Publishers might start taking their lives once this initiative passes!

>>714155353
Who's gonna clean up the bodies?
What if all your favourite industries decide to pivot and cater to heroin addicts since they are addicted and will pay more?

>>714153905
PEWDS IT'S AN INITIATIVE NOT A PETITION

>>714153919
Unironically yes
A government's job, among other things, is protecting its citizens. Maybe you're a mutt and you've forgotten that but yes, we should absolutely protect the retards of our society

>>714155283
>conveniently leaves out the part where big pharma started the heroin addiction pandemic in the country while the government did nothing because of lobbying
Regulation that the government imposes on their populace only benefits the big man. Regulation that the populace demands is always greeted with concern trolling about the lack of success that government imposed regulation has.

>>714154248
that's none of your business

/ourguy/ finally weighed in

>>714155331
ftfy

>>714155570
I'm more in favour of protecting the rest of us from the retards, but same thing in the end

>>714155593
who?

>>714155518
They are not, it doesn't always damage corporations and can easily backfire.

>>714155553
So close yet so far..

>>714155570
No we absolutely should not. This is insane. Do you understand how evolution works? Why would you try to promote a dysgenic gene? Why do I have to subsidize this demonic practice?

Retard here. Do I have to write in my name in full capital letters into the box when sign it? All my documents have full capital letters.

>>714153919
I wonder who is behind this post?

>>714155580
>blablabla
nothing of this matters. The drug problem is there and without laws it would be a lot bigger

>>714155570
>protecting its citizens
>that's why they sent their citizens to war to die
>also the shot

>>714155530
To be fair, doesn't italy have the most old people?

>>714154465
I look like that and say that

>>714155615
He's some Australian boomer from basedjak party.

>>714155570
"protecting"? more like "babysitting".

>>714154025
>entirely at your expense
As always

>>714155530
finally italy does something fucking right

>>714155615
The sneed guy

>>714153905
>petition supasses the million threshold by a lot
>feretfaggot btfo once and forever
>in a month's time as ross prepares himself to meet the eu commitee and email arrives
>surely this is to confirm my meeting with the commitee
>ACHSUALY it's a rejection letter
>turns most of the singatures were fraudulent because pewdiepie's audience is consisted of underage zoomers that are not elligible to vote
>but they decided to spoof any credentials that were needed because their millionaire shitceleb e-friend told them so
>however those are now invalid and therefore the petition is also rendered invalid

>>714155626
>muh biolodshi
You do realize that nature, like herd animals or many insects, forms societies all the time where they protect the weaker members for greater purposes? And even if we don't go the naturalistic route, why the fuck do you make a naturalistic argument when we've evolved way past naturalistic aspects for over 5000 years?

>>714155605
Gay

>>714155521
>13K likes
>probably everyone who already signed
You unironically need to find a way to get women and boomers to sign this shit. The millennial/zoomer males who don't hate the EU have already all signed it.

>>714155651
>>714155626
> Why would you try to promote a dysgenic gene? Why do I have to subsidize this demonic practice?
>that's why they sent their citizens to war to die
Even a retard has two hands and two legs. Sewers won't clean themselves and you need cannon fodder to beit out the drones. So yes, we need to babysit our retards, because even the biggest retard has it's uses.

>>714153823 (OP)
>sign petition in you kay
>duplicate signature, already signed
wait, the original one got over 100k siggies and went through, only to be handwaved away, this new one is at 50k sigs and is specifically demanding a proper response but they wont let you sign it if you signed the first
what kind of jewery is this?

>>714155530
wow who talked about it?

>>714153905
>pewdiepie

>>714155756
>femoid angary

>>714153823 (OP)
My games seem perfectly fine. Which games have supposedly been killed(?) over the last decade?

Can't wait until every game makes you sign 5 pages of documents, including a clause to defend Israel just to get to the title screen. I hecking love ecelebs and world government globalism!

>>714155748
>You do realize that nature, like herd animals or many insects, forms societies all the time where they protect the weaker members for greater purposes?
Old, weak and ill individuals are driven away from the nest, lol.

But anyways this thing is extreme for human beings.

>>714155785
>Linux makes you a nazi
Holy based.

>>714155764
I appreciate the enthusiasm but that was posted an hour ago. Calm your tits.

>>714155814
The crew, for example. It's the game that started this discussion

>>714154628
Addictive personality and behavioral patterns aren't tied to intelligence. Plenty of geniuses out there who still fell victim to drug addiction.

>>714155848
>what's EULA?

>>714155745
people who watch pewdiepie are no longer underage

>>714155745
You need a real id to take part idiot. It verifies during it..

>>714155651
No it wouldn't.
The pandemic of heroin drug addicts started because the Sackler family had a complete monopoly of opioids and encouraged doctors to prescribe them as much as possible, granting them kickbacks per prescription.
Once the patient got addicted to opioids, they were forced to go back to these doctors to get more prescriptions, which eventually they couldn't afford. Since they couldn't afford them, they went to the black market.
The Sackler family got protection from the government to keep doing this shit for years.

>>714155848
man, i can't wait to die for israel because a million jews signed a petition to increase government involvement in my private life

>>714155894
Being suckered in by addiction is a form of idiocy and of lacking discipline. You are a failure as a human if you fall victim to any kind of addiction.

>STOP KILLING GAMES
this is you

>>714155958
I look like this

>>714155947
Jfc. I hope you're just baiting. Plenty of studies out there that show your statements are full of shit.

>>714155958
How does someone become so comically obese? You have to eat an extraordinary amount of food per day to look like that.

>>714154540
>Unless you can educate people on finances
It's joever

>>714155848
We literally already do that.

>>714155776
You probably singed this one already. It was open for a while. I don't think it's related to their previous attempts to contact the gov.

>>714155848
Same here!

>>714155814
It's incomplete and only covers PC and console games, but here: https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list

>>714155958
Where did you get that picture of me?

>>714155745
Tfw this american think the rest of the world have a tiny piece of paper as their id from birth.

>>714153905
>I am le heckin based gamer like you!
No forgiveness for traitors.

>>714155848
>>714155958
would you hyperbolic faggots stop taking everything about every fucking subject to their extreme ends in example when expressing why you dislike it? No one fucking takes you seriously when you do this and you sound like emotional pussy leftists screaming about the white man.

>>714155994
>muh studies
Go back to plebbit. Addiction is caused by a weak-will and lack of discipline. Stop treating addicts like babies. The reason they lack discipline is because they have been chronically absolved of responsibility.

>>714155943
Your fault for letting million jews manipulate your government
But hey at least YOU didn't use the government right?

>>714155259
Eu laws are the reason you have steam refunds and standardized usb-c ports, you fucking dingus

>>714153905
DUDE FOR REAL?!
If he makes a video (unless he already has) we are gonna rape the corpos!

>>714156053
You do realize every large internet personality was forced to claim they support BLM, right? Or else they'd lose their livelihoods?

>>714154025
tldr. But chatgpt summarized it as you either being a paid shill or a conspiracy nutjob.

>>714155848
slippery slope is called a fallacy for a reason

>>714154540
>long ass post pissing and crying
>nothing will change
are you scared, perhaps?

ACTUAL DEVS HAVE SPOKEN
YOUR MOVEMENT IS A NOTHINGBURGER
STOP SPAMMING THIS BOARD NOW

>>714153905
SO LONG JUDAS!

he's not wrong...

It's so sad. In the past few years, we finally seen companies like Ubisoft and Microsoft take huge losses and small independent companies rise thanks to the free market. Now gamers push for more globalism and laws, and I'm sure those don't benefit big corporations who can afford large legal departments, right? Government always helps the little guys like us gaymers.

>>714154540
>reddit spacing
oy vey

>>714156119
>steam refunds
When did Australia join the EU?

>>714155745
>most of the singatures were fraudulent because pewdiepie's audience is consisted of underage zoomers that are not elligible to vote
You only get an ID when you're 14-18, depending on the country. Also, pewdiepie hasn't been relevant in almost a decade. His audience is 20+.

>>714155958
I'm afraid that I am actually rubber and you are in fact glue.

Do you know what that means?

>>714155776
the only other signature based init was in uk

>>714156105
I hate the "science = reddit" meme so fucking much. If you know a better way to gain knowledge than the scientific method, I'll gladly call you an ubermensch. If not, go fuck yourself with a rake.

>>714156119
Since when is USB-C standardised? Or do you mean that all phones have to have it? Because Type-C varies wildly by implementation.

>>714156162
Every take from these retards is basically >>714154247

>>714156162
>through the system rather than against it
Stopped reading there. This IS "the system".

>>714156162
>AAA devs

>>714156189
When they joined the Eurovision song contest, of course.

>>714156162
>You can't just make new laws that would allow this, the current laws don't allow this

>>714156136
kek yeah sure keep telling yourself that
he was already a fucking millionaire you retard nigger

>>714156136
>Was forced to
Bullshit.

He CHOSE to endorse an explicitly anti-White organisation, of his own free will.
He CHOSE to host a charity stream asking for donations for an explicitly anti-White organisation.
Imagine being a White child and knowing this guy you look up to endorsed and gave money to an organisation that hates you for existing.

He doesn't deserve forgiveness for this, ever.

>>714156246
Yeah, I meant phones having it. My bad.

>>714155651
>without laws it would be a lot bigger
Citation needed

stop killing gameeees aaaaaaaaaaa stop iit right now aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>714156306
this isn't a forgive pewdiepie drive, we're just here for the signatures.

>>714156246
since last year? Also, next year for PCs.

>>714155814
>Which games have supposedly been killed(?) over the last decade?
Here, a simple search.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Inactive_massively_multiplayer_online_games
List of dead MMOs.
https://stopkillinggames.wiki.gg/wiki/Dead_game_list
The SKG wiki where you can see MMOs and videogames that had alays online DRM that have been killed, onced that were saved by the community and ones that are in risk of getting killed off. There are a ton of games that have been killed which is really sad. If publishers wanted to stop support they should have just given people the ability to keep the game alive, they should have given us the tools to preserve those games as abandoware at least.

>>714156241
The idea that you need to cite "muh heckin science journalrino" over something as simple as addiction is why you're a redditor. Why can't you just admit that addiction is a personality flaw?

>>714155664
Yes, Italy has several elders, because it shoud be 2nd place for life expectancy, with very low birth rates.

>>714156162
>games 20 years ago had no issue with offline modes or letting fans host servers
>suddenly we cant do that, and we will lose 50%-60% of our sales which come from EU instead of doing something so simple.

Hes not a dev, hes a redditor pretending to be a dev.

>>714156162
>Europe will simply have no online features
So the devs will be forced to make the game not online-only. Nice!

>>714156136
Oh..
So was he forced/blackmailed to says this too? >>714153905

>>714156189
Shortly after Canada.

>>714156370
>No, don't use science, just use feeling
My feelings are telling me you are fucking retarded.

>>714155745
You can't get a "fraudulent vote," because you need a legitimate ID number connected to an actual name. You can't just spam "fake IDs" or duplicate.

>>714155228
actually retarded eceleb does what we say. says it right there in the post. seethe harder.

>>714156162
>They will simply never make online games that release in Europe

>>714156370
Because I don't claim to intrinsically know everything about the world from the get-go. You're just an ignorant narcissist, nothing more.

>>714155809
No you're just gay with outdated software, nigger

>>714156408
this, i hosted my own Quake 3 multiplayer games, i hosted my own NWN server, anyone who says that it can't be done is full of shit

>>714156321
magyar cigány

>>714156446
Don't deny the reality in front of your face. Not every personality flaw needs to be classified as a mental illness just because some scientists told you to.
>>714156502
I am right, you are wrong.

>>714156053
Pewds said nigger on a live stream one time and it almost destroyed his Youtube career. I´m sure him raising 106k for BLM was to make amends with the snoys, sponsors and Google to let him continue making Youtube content.

FROM RIVER TO THE SEA, GAMES SHALL REMAIN KILLING FREE

>>714156483
What they are actually saying is, that gambling mechanics in always online games earn more money than all of the EU would without those surprise mechanics.

>>714156356
I know. I'm just saying that we shouldn't allow him to try and worm his way into the right's good graces, which he inevitably will within a few years as zoomers continue to shift rightward.

>>714156545
You're either a troll or fucking stupid. Either way, your existence is pathetic.

>>714154025
The petition is very specific on what it's about, and it's not censorship.
The government doesn't need Ross' or anyone elses permission to cencor shit, retard.

>>714156483
this is 1/4th the US share, pro SKG btw.

>>714156517
>outdated
>cries

>>714156162
>simply never make online games that release in europe
>they'll simply vaporise vast quantities of potential sales
Does reddit university cover the part where a shareholder asks how the fuck you're going to cover a gaping hole in your revenues?

>>714156578
He should've doubled down after the nigger incident.
Apologising was his first mistake.

>>714156545
>Don't deny the reality in front of your face
Earth it flat bro. You can't even see the curve. And bacteria? As if something that small could even exist. And even if it did, how could it affect someone as big as me?

>Starts out saying we shouldn't rely on celebrities for this consumer movement.
>Now begging every e-celeb under the sun to save it the 11th hour.
Weird how there was such a huge turnabout. Is this even about preserving games or just a way to dunk on one dude's opinion? I can't even tell any more.

>>714156162
damn, what cringefest

>>714155958
>>714156349
>>714156582
Wow. NOW you've really convinced me not to support it.

>>714156059
>would you hyperbolic faggots stop taking everything about every fucking subject to their extreme ends in example when expressing why you dislike it? No one fucking takes you seriously when you do this and you sound like emotional pussy leftists screaming about the white man.

>>714156617
You can't come up with anything better than that because you know I'm right. This is why Singapore has far fewer issues with drug addicts than any state in the EU. They treat them with the harshness they deserve, and their fear breeds obedience.
>>714156671
You sound American. We've known the circumference of the earth since ancient Babylon.

>>714156408
>>games 20 years ago had no issue with offline modes or letting fans host servers
difference is anon how where you supposed to shove ads in players faces when starting up the game back then? how where you constantly gonna shower them with reminders about this new weekenddeal regarding new E celeb skins? how would our AI modot ban you for calling someone a idiot?
bet you never thought about that did you?

>>714156634
>just remove 1/4 of your revenue lmao
That argument is so amusing. Google bent the knee, Apple bent the knee, Microsoft bent the knee, but a video game publisher will totally take on EU.

>>714155585
Fuck off tendie

>>714153823 (OP)
Erm why are the finns based?

>Gamers getting psyopped into voting their freedom away
Amazing to see it

>>714156743
>We've known the circumference of the earth since ancient Babylon
Now suddenly you are for science? What happened to using feelings? Are maybe feeling retarded? Or maybe it is more of a scientific fact.

>>714153905
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE RIGHT, I HAVE MORE SUBS AND MORE CONNECTIONS

JEWS HELP ME, WE NEED THIS MOVEMENT DESTROYED. DRONE ROSS SCOTT NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!

>>714156790
No, it's voting the devs' freedom away. Which I don't care about.

>>714156483
these people are hilarious
imagine EA, a company who's literally kept afloat by FIFA games saying ''nah we dont need the EU''

>>714156814
take your meds

>It won't reach enough signatures
>ev...e...even if it does it won't do anything
If that's the case there's no point caring and trying to astroturf against it. Unless you're a shill or corpo bootlicker ofc.
>Noooo! If you support laws that force giant billion dollar companies with CEO's that have a curious early life wikipedia section to not create shit games you're a kike puppet
LMAO

>>714156790
Ah yes their freedom to...
Not be able to play the game they purchased anymore?

Doomerchad here, it will fail at 95%
Can't wait to taste the despair in your tears faggots

>>714156802
I've never been opposed to science, I am just opposed to you abusing science, or rather the religion of Scientism, to enact policies that favour you. Such as your desire for lenience towards drug addicts, despite it being clear that no-tolerance is the superior option for both normal people and addicts.

>>714155890
For a third class online racer. I might be wrong, but this delusional. Inviting the insane lunatics that fought killer games with unholy zeal. The same clowns that now pump government funding into said games.

Fake signature anon here
Yesterday I finished at 79 signatures
Can I top that today? Only time will tell

>>714156762
Fuuuggg :D

You should be able to play the games you paid for.

>>714154540
>gdpr laws didn't change a thing
>common charger law didn't change a thing
>pro consumer laws won't change a thing
lmao get fucked corporat bootlicker. eu is not america, we care about people here, not just corporations.

>>714155869
switching to linux right now.

>>714156939
This but ironically. Buyfags deserve nothing

>>714156912
>I've never been opposed to science
Every single post you made is saying the opposite. Maybe you need to learn the science of writing?

>>714156921
You need a photo of you with your ID, retard.

>>714156726
>we shouldn't rely on celebrities for this consumer movement.
What retard said this?

>>714154025
Lmao, nigger. You already have a word government issuing a literal fucking social credit score to control and censor gaming companies. You have a fucking visa and mastercard openly enacting global censorship campaign without any repercussion whatsoever. The fuck are you even talking about.
>They WILL fuck your shit up
What do you mean WILL, retard? Are you living under a fucking rock or something?

I love seeing all these corporate shills suddenly swarming around like roaches in full damage control, now that the initiative is picking up steam.

>>714156939
>Ubisoft's CEO disliked that.
>thumbs down

>>714156939
You shouldn't be an idiot and give money for online DRM games.
and thus you should never use Steam-slop.

You lost

>>714157015
Aw, give him a break. It's probably his first attempt at trolling.
I remember mine being similar.

>>714157010
Only according to your misinterpretation, I suppose. Maybe you need to work on your comprehension, or just stop being a whiny bitch who can't admit when he is wrong.

>>714156448
Right2Water campaign had something like 100k votes revoked because they were fraudulent.
Unironically we'll need at least 1.1 mil to be in the green.

>>714156749
its much less than even that. China, Japan, SEA, SA, and the rest of NA in that order all count for something. only place that doesn't matter is russia and africa. (middle east and india included)

>>714156961
Oh lord it comin'

>>714157015
No you don't retard. There are countries which need only bullshit ID numbers
haha
I signed 12 times as Ben Dover from Bulgaria

>>714157015
>You need a photo of you with your ID
The fuck is this stone age tech? Just use your digital ID.

>>714157071
>33k sigantures yesterday
>almost 10k sigantures today and it aint even noon
you lost nigger

>>714157109
>>714156961
ahem. nice

>>714157073
>I-it wasn't me, it's just that everyone else didn't understand me
What are you doing here Pirate?

This is something like the subsribe to pewdiepie challenge, it has its momentum then it dies
The whole stuff will end around 800k

>>714157131
I didn't have to give an ID numbers or some shit am I missing something??

>>714157202
Oh, you've resorted to the silly fake quote thing. Why does every American do that? Anyway, I accept your concession. Go have fun being a worthless drug addict.

>>714157164
>only seven hundred signatures
>and one fake signature counting as 0.002 votes
>needs 1 billion signatures
never gonna make it

>>714157175
>that lone 3
almost perfect

JESUS CHRIST THIS THING IS MOVING FAST

Realistically what can he do to stop the movement now?

Will he try to accuse Ross of pedophilia in a last ditch effort? Things are looking bleak

>>714155756
post tits

wow, people hate that furfag that much?

>>714156961
YOU CAN'T STOP THIS TRAIN ANYMORE! SO LONG GAY JUDAS!

Jannies finally purged this shit last time when I was here
The fuck changed. Do your job jannies

>>714157238
It depends on how your country checks for the validity of your identity.

>>714157272
Focus on the bad actors. It's how the media killed Gamergate.

>>714157272
get his ex blizzard buddies to contact the journos and write a hitpiece about how Ross is literally starting Gamergate 3

>>714157272
>accuse Ross of pedophilia
he cant do that without some of his own past actions coming back again

What was the last big gamer movement before SKG?

>>714157272
He doesn't care, he is getting paid regardless.

>>714157272
He could rally AAA talking heads to try to furhter rally the shills. We could see Geoff Keighly condemning the whole thing.

>>714157272
The only thing he can do is shut the fuck up and hide for a month.
He's god's gift to SKG every time he opens his mouth

>it reaches 1 million
>EU parliament is going to vote about it
>representer is going to read it loud in Brussels
>90% of the boomer members of the parliament don't even know what video games are
>they will all vote no
You can screencap this

>>714157039
Concern trolls always use this angle.
>nooo things you never asked for which affect you negatively are already in place and they were imposed by unelected officials
>so it's the same if actual people demand for solutions against anti-consumer practices!

>>714157373
honestly geoff is a good guy, i can see him supporting it if he wasnt such a sell out

>700K
TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO

>>714156162
All of this retarded drivel was regurgitated when EU was doing that law about personal info collection by websites and in the end they all caved in because ceasing operation in the EU is just way worse than complying.
Gotta be a special type of retard to think gaming companies are going to fight a fight that was too expensive for titans like youtube etc.

>>714156762
There's nothing to do here except drink and play video games.

>>714157371
my dick in your moms pussy

>>714155509
>>714155526
I stand corrected. You are actually bunch of retards. Not a singular one.

>>714157212
Yeah maybe. Still worth a shot.

>>714157164
Yes!

Reminder that there are actual devs that support this (Most updooted comment)
https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1lm20bt/what_are_we_thinking_about_the_stop_killing_games/
>inb4 reddit
If the anti side can use them, so can I.

>>714157270
The first time around it only got 330k signatures in a month. You need 1.2 million signatures for this to actually pass (because of the ~12% rejected signature rate). Getting 500k signatures in 30 days is extremely unrealistic.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike EU but it regulating big corpos is not one of them. Fuck corporate power, the less they can get away with their anti consumer practices the better

>>714157459
>geoff is a good guy
Shilling Sony for free means he's compromised.

>>714155605
Straight

>>714157538
This is the fastest it's been moving EVER, nevermind the start. And swedish chud pewds is making a video.

>>714157439
>they will all vote yes because it is presented as a protection of consumer rights which has a strong tradition on the old continent

>>714157538
OK. Still telling my friends about it.

>>714155489
What's the point of taxes if the government is useless

>>714157459
He can't support SKG publicly since his show is funded by videogame publishers. If he supports SKG they will pull out their trailers and presentations from his show to punish him. You have no idea how nasty videogame publishers are. There is a reason why there are still youtubers who are not publicly supporting this. Every youtuber that relies on money from publishers who pay them to promote their games will have trouble openly supporting SKG.
>yes a lot of youtubers are contracted by videogame publishers all the time to play their videogames(promote them)

>>714157263
Holy shit you're retarded.
It's 700000. 70% hello?

>>714157373
the only person i could genuinely see condemning this would be Jason Schreier

Dont you think it would help if he wouldnt look like a fucking hobo

>>714157439
So, we don't even try in the first place? This is a shit mentality for everything.

And anyway, even if they discard it, we would be in a better position than doing nothing at all.

>>714157758
Does not matter to me how he looks. This is not about Mold, this is about videogames.

>>714157538
Unrealistic? Maybe you did not notice the progress we made until now (yesterday more than 30k). It's actually possible, not unrealistic.

>>714157459
Ehhh, I don't know about good guy, but I do think he cares about retaining a good guy impression.

>>714157758
Obviously, but he has the power of mold so it balances out.

>>714157272
I think we should start greentexting pro stop killing games post along with pictures of people with dyed hair.

>>714154025
Whatever you say, shillman.

>>714157272
honestly i think even he knows at this points its best just to shut the fuck up
if he didnt make a reply at all the petition would be sitting at 350 signatures max by now
but he just had to be such a faggot about it

>>714157692
Israel Defense Fund

ITT: Gamers falling for another scam

>>714157758
Are you a woman or something? Why do you care, faggot? You require every face of a movement to be someone you can imagine a hot makeout session followed by anal sex with?

>>714155254
>owning private property is communism
Americans are mentally deranged

>>714157439
The parliament doesn't even need to vote, they only need to respond. They can 100% dismiss it.
Wish I was kidding but it has happened with other initiatives before.

>>714155254
>YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY
If that's capitalism, give me the commies.

>>714157713
>only 70% signatures, but the initiative needs 120%
>91% of the time already passed
Not gonna make it unless you start not only shilling this to everyone you're in contact with, but also convince them to shill it further.

>>714153919
I pay tax, If I get them to nuke India just to stop one scam center, so be it.

>>714157934
>he just had to be such a faggot about it
It's funny how he could've been a 40k viewer streamer and be set for life for saying pseudointellectual bullshit, but he just couldn't help himself.

>>714157758
Maybe? He looks fine, he's not handsome or anything but he looks distinct. Maybe he should have gone Freeman mode.

>>714157617
>And swedish chud pewds is making a video.
are you for real? is there anything except the new comment?

>>714153823 (OP)
Voted, although almost a year ago.
Good luck, moldman, loved your vids since mid 2000's.

>>714156162
>Government-mandated return to narrative-heavy singleplayer KINO as opposed to live service gruel.

Based???

>>714158097
I wish I could help but I could neither refund nor an european.

>>714155254
Based commies protecting private property

>>714153905
Hopefully he also makes a video so that more people see it

what relevant examples of videogames being "killed off" have there been recently?

>>714158024
It's curious how invested you are in a thing that allegedly doesn't matter.
If only you could shill your way out of being too retarded to even read numbers properly.

>>714155254
wait communism protects me from evil organisations seizing my purchased, privately owned assets?
wtf I love communism now

>>714155254
Publishers not being able to steal what we already purchased is communism?

>>714156162
>deliberately coding a game with a built-in killswitch by calling home to AWS
>NO WE ARE INNOCENT BLOODY BENCHOD BASTARD
Fuck you

>>714158229
Well... you see... uh... there was this shovelware... uh... and there's this shitty remaster... and uh... none of them are on physical stuff that will degrade over time!!!

>>714158290
>make multiplayer game
>sells like shit
>can't afford the servers anymore
>NOOOOO, THIS IS LITERALLY FASCISM A KILL SWITCHERINO NOOOOOO

>>714156762
highest IQ, same with estonians but they get dragged down by having like 20% russians in their country so their per capita looks worse. In fact I think if we count only real estonians they have the highest per capita.

>>714158375
Yes, correct, it's a cultural genocide.

>>714158375
I like how shills have absolutely zero valid arguments, so they just resort to lying and hope someone falls for it.

Any high grade legal rats here? Does it have a chance of passing? It potentially steps on every big online business out there, depending on interpretation, pushback should be huge, no?

>>714158467
>pushback should be huge, no?
this is my biggest fear
we have no defence against the legal armies of EA and Ubisoft

>>714158467
Of course not. It's a scam. The organizer admitted he will run away with the money.

>>714158447
lmao
>you should get a credit or two to fund the servers
>yeah, you go homeless, so what???
t. commie

>>714156185
Stop using everything you fucking own. Better yet, don't eat or drink anything. And for the love of your capitalist soul, stop breathing right fucking now.
After all it's all regulated by the goberment and we cannot allow this shit to happen or support it in any way, right?

>>714158375
Player owned private servers? Are you even trying pajeet?

>>714156162
>Europe will simply have no online features
Those mouth breathers really think companies will outright give up 25% of their total revenue because they're petty about a law.

>>714153823 (OP)
I'm really curious on how it's going to be implemented. What it means for a game to be "dead". How to test if a game is playable? Is this going to be redundant with GOG? How many games are going to be impacted by this? I'm also a bit scared that publishers are just gonna go fuck it and destroy everything deemed unplayable before any laws are applied.

I know, we'll just release Anita Sarkeesian again. It worked out the last time gamers were rising up.

>>714158465
>your arguments aren't "valid"
is this the next commie tactic?

>>714158152
I'm personally not as optimistic as a moldman, but there needs to be a pushback against enshitiffication, forced online for games that are singleplayer or have sigleplayer modes. MMOs are probably a lost cause, but I am pissed when game has singleplayer mode but you have to deal with GaaS bullshit anyway.

>>714158579
>just give us your server
>yeah, we don't care that 3rd party libraries were used and you don't own the copyright of these
>just give us
t. commie

>>714158598
It wouldn't matter for the games that are sold right now anyway, the laws would not be retroactive.

Do petitions like this actually do anything if they get enough names?

people don't care about the truth

>>714158613
Well if you have any then tell me one.

>>714157518
>all those devs who are like "gubment intervention bad" and "what if indie developers use complex AWS Azure setups" and "why isn't this word count limited initiative 6000 words longer"
the amount of fucking kvetching to save themselves up to a week of work is funny

>>714153905
Finally, the waste of space is being useful

>>714158676
yeah they get voted no to

>>714158375
or
>sell multiplayer game
>leave it in the hands of the player
>never have to look back again
its that easy

>>714158676
See >>714158537

>>714158684
>I decide what's "valid" and what's not
Welcome to Gattaca

>>714158676
its not a petition

>>714158712
Because they're scams
>>714158696
A useful idiot

>>714158713
>just give us your source code
lmao
>it's that easy
only when you have no clue about software development
>just give us that 3rd party library source code too
>WELL FUCK YOUR NDA
lmao

>>714153823 (OP)
Ancaps and capitalists in general should be all in favor of GAAS. The only thing that matters is increasing shareholder value and SKG's goal goes against that. Since I'm not a filthy commie, I too am against SKG.

>>714158734
I am still waiting to tell me a single one

>>714158676
Yes, because it's not a petition. The official term is a citizen's initiative.
It's law that the EU must discuss the tooic with the organizers if it succeeds.

>>714158817
this petition is invalid.

>>714158652
>don't use 3rd parties that don't give you the tools to sunset the game
>problem solved
>>714154247

>>714158676
This is done through official EU channels, had to be pre-approved by the EU to even show up on their website, and will get the European Commission to directly address it should it gain the required number of signatures. Unlike change.org garbage, this has actual effects.

>>714157084
That was 5 years ago, anon. Currently it pairs your ID with a given country's database. If the name and ID don't match, you get a message about it.

>>714153919
My government should serve me, not corporations. Fuck of le based rightoid.

>>714158836
???

>>714158827
>oh wow, they have to discuss it
>this is really a democracy

>>714158847
>just don't use stuff like that
>just
and the commies show their true face.

I'll be sure to spam the board just like you fucker did when this garbage fails miserably laughing at you.

>>714158858
Say it gets brought to the EU commission, will that actually do anything?

>>714158795
>just give us your source code
it's not asking that.

Is it that hard to make games server infrastructure run like Ark or Minecraft?
is Studio Wildcard can do it, why couldn't a multi billion corporation?

>>714158556
Usaoids are incapable of saying 2 sentences without the mention of debt.
You see, you americans might be temporarily embarrassed millionaires but we europeans are temporarily embarrassed aristocrats, the cries of scum of the soul like you only makes it better.

Can I get a quick rundown on this movement?
Are they asking big devs to stop making shit games, or are they asking the customers to keep buying shit games?

Bulgarians being poor and corporate cucks, what a surprise?

>>714158795
Package your fucking binaries, if you are so afraid to show the world your multiple GPL violations, you stupid fucking cunt.

714158881
Are you actually getting paid for every (you) or are you just bored?

>>714158918
>you just need to develop how we say
fucking commies deserve a bullet

You do realize that this law won't be backwards compatible? End of life scenario will only be a requirement for a new, upcoming games. Which will most likely force companies to rethink the way live service games are made in order to be less predatory.
The horror.

>>714158903
The officials will discuss it with the organisers of the initiative and from there we'll see if it gets turned into legislation or not. Other initiatives made this way were successful in the past.

>>714155183
>The standard nowadays is online server-based games
A gay forced standard. Remove that shit from Conan Exiles so I can play singleplayer mode without annoying forced online, you fucks!

>>714158934
they're asking shit games to keep their online servers up forever

>>714153823 (OP)
Sars, do not redeeem stop killing games, you must buy the new games I help make with my asset knowledge of UE5, thank you sars

>>714158934
They are trying to force companies to make some end of life solution to the their games, which in certain games is impossible, in other games would be giving to the IP, so companies will stop relaxing their games in the eu area if this goes into effect.

>>714158961
>you can give out your server using 3rd party libraries licensed per installation
another retarded commie

>You VILL let me dump industrial waste in your river
>You VILL let me flood the atmosphere with exhaust gases
>You VILL let me put sawdust and plastics in your food.
>You VILL advocate for corporate personhood.
>You VILL "privatize" your country's land, resources and infrastructure
>You VILL deregulate all markets.
>You VILL NOT advocate for your rights through politics.
>You VILL NOT tax the rich or... I'll just heckin leave okay?!?!
>Or you're a heckin commie pinko!!

>>714154540
Nah, it's unironically easier to make laws around it than to make goy cattle not fall for this shit.

/r/ CP

>>714158957
nobody here cares about the EU, people have given up on voting even in local elections
bulgaria is experiencing death by apathy

>>714158652
>PRIVATE servers are communism
The fucking irony.
Private servers were the backbone of the golden early days you obvious newfag tourist shill.
You must be american, only they think calling everything communism looks smart.
Your retarded ancestors were keeping the USSR on life support with lend lease while based Europeans and Japanese were trying to destroy it and now you live in perpetual fear of Stalin under your bed.

>>714158998
>>714159010
Stop replying to your own comment shill faggot. You are lying through your disgusting teeth again.

>>714158998
>>714159010
Oh ok thanks I get it.
A the same time, all products eventually reach their end of life, I don't feel companies are legally obliged to keep servers running for decades or something.

>>714158989
>Other initiatives made this way were successful in the past.
What percentage of those were successful? It just sounds to me like if this gets brought up, the officials will just see that it's some gay video game shit and move on to discuss new ways to force paper straws or other dumb stuff.

>>714159027
If you can't provide a way to play your game offline or after you end server hosting you should not be making games

>>714159081
>give me your work for free!!!
>give me the work of others for free too!!
>fuck your NDA!!!
>fuck copyright!!!
t. commie

>>714156748
An call to an API to fetch ads and the game server itself can just be separated. Just don't architect your code like a poojeet and this problem goes away.

>>714158671
Are you sure? The Rgpd was for all sites not just new sites, no? I don't really know anything about laws...

>700k already and rapidly rising
SO LONG CORPO SHILLS

>>714159050
Just assume that anyone like this is an American, they're born to worship corporations.

>>714158974
as opposed to
>you just need to consume how we say
?

fucking retard

>>714159118
>the commie wants to control game development as a whole
fuck you, commie
>>714159142
>just use open surce libraries
>those never break
t. commie retard

>>714159102
Astroturfing faggot.

>>714154025
The government already has laws in place for everything else I buy.

>>714159118
What about games that are entirely designed for online play Anne can't be turned into a single player experience? You want fucking MMOs to have an end of life patch? Or mobile gacha games being playable offline, in solo without new content? This entire shit is so fucking retarded.

>>714159152
It won't even be passed lmfaoooooo

>>714153905
brofist pewds
one last time

>>714159191
illiterate

>>714159102
those two retards just lied straight to your face

the goal is for games that end official support to provide ways to play them once they end

as an example, pretend that tf2's official servers were shutting down and you couldn't set up your own servers to still play it with people after that; if this went into law valve would be required to release tools to set up server hosting on the user end once they pull the official ones

>>714159190
no, if you moron wouldn't have supported (((Steam))), (((Steam))) would not exist
It's as simple as that, retard.

>>714159113
I haven't studied every single case but here are all the petitions that passed the million signatures threshold and got an answer from the EU. You can find the answers there as well.
https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/find-initiative_en?STATUS[0]=ANSWERED

Is communism the single most misused word in the world? It has to be close to the top, right?

>>714159081
I'm glad we finally recognized the Anglo menace as not European.

>>714159220
>You want fucking MMOs to have an end of life patch? Or mobile gacha games being playable offline, in solo without new content?
Yes, is that a fucking problem for you?

>>714159209
Says the GAAS addicted retard who plays the shittiest games on earth. If you had anything resembling actual taste you wouldn't even need this retarded petition because any game you cared about would be perfectly preserved already.

>>714153823 (OP)
I actually think we should kill more games. like a lot more games

>>714153905
WHAT A FUCKING Neat opportunity to stand up for your consumer rights! If you're European, consider signing this petition! :)

>>714159102
You understand nothing.
We want games to run without a backend server that does nothing but collect data to sell and act as authentication &kill switch.
There's zero reasons not to run private servers or just p2p instead.

>>714154540
>NOOO WE NEED TO BE JEWS CAUSE MUH BILLS
Unionize and demand your company stops being such kikes you worthless faggot

>>714158881
>The 3rd party we worked with is saying FUCK YOU EU and WILL NOT CHANGE
>other 3rd parties on the free market that provide the same service adapt to the new law and make it trivial to make games playable after the end of support.
>Switching to a different 3rd party that provides a service that best suits your interests IS LITERAL COMMUNISM
Ameritards are something else.

>>714159314
record speed mask drop.
jesus christ you people are shit at this

>>714157538
>>714157617
>>714157656
>>714157860
I think it hitting 1m is very possible, the problem is ensuring that there's a constant stream of signatures past that to get us into the 1.2m safe zone

I think that's going to be very difficult without coordination with a bunch of big channels all in the last week urging people to still vote even if it's already over 1m

>>714159102
>>714158934
It doesn't require companies keep the servers up for any amount of time, or to give up any IP rights

What it would require, though it depends on what language the law, if one is made, uses, would for the game to have an end of life plan that involves either making a built that works offline, or enabling offline play, p2p or LAN multiplayer, or using private servers, or even potentially just providing the community with tools and documentation to try to get it to work themselves

Again, depending on how the law is worded, the requirements could be stricter or looser, but the initiative as it is worded explicitly does not require leaving the servers on or giving source code or relinquishing IP rights, nor would it be retroactive: it would only apply to games made AFTER the hypothetical law is made which itself would have a grace period most likely

>>714159120
This is retarded, it contradicts itself in two paragraphs. To provide a solution for the game to continue working without the developers they need to give out part of their IP. Either the game's data or they have to allow the game to be run with a patch, that needs to be hosted by the developers, without the IP holders getting any money from the game. It won't happen, if this goes through companies will block games in the area.

>>714159258
And who supported development of Concord, nuMarathon, Dustborn, etc? Those pieces of shit came out no matter what, corpos lost some money, but still agenda isn't changing.

>>714159102
kill yourself retard. cant read. cant use his brain. why are you even breathing?

>>714153919
lick that corpo boot clean bitch

>>714159349
But dedicated server support is bad for the company. That's why valve failed.

>>714159381
>they need to give out part of their IP. Either the game's data

By this logic making patches or releasing a game at all is "giving out parts of the IP", dumbass

By "it doesn't require giving away IP", it means the IP rights aren't being transfered to other parties

>>714159138
>bad anticonsumer architectural decisions and regulatory capture is capitalism
t. rent seeking parasite

It's funny how the "no taxation without representation" fags are seething at me actually making use of my right to representation in order to get legislation that helps me passed. This isn't communism, it's actual democracy.

>>714159387
>And who supported development of Concord
Me, I want snoy to bleed.

>>714153823 (OP)
I'm glad it's gaining traction and my opinion of normalfags has already been terminally low ever since the coofening, but I'm still a bit disgusted at fucking e-celeb drama being the reason this might be successful.

You know, this remind me of the Microsoft buying Activision....
For some reasons, a massive amount of people appeared out of nowhere to massively shill the acquisition of Acti, even though anyone with a single brain cell would understand how bad the repercussion would be for everyone involved (Microsoft, Acti, Sony, the game industry etc....), yet, they were there all day shilling, spamming and attacking everyone that opposed it.
As soon as the buyout was done, nobody ever talked this way about it, NOT A SINGLE TIME, all those pro Microsoft buying Acti literally disappeared out of nowhere.
And thus, those people, with their propaganda on reddit, 4chan, youtube, twitter etc... played a big part on the perception of the public, that in the end, though this acquisition wouldn't create trouble.

Now we have the "Stop Killing Games" initiative, and guess what, a huge amount of "people" come out of the woodwork to tell you that this initiative is bad, that you need to protect the big corporation that want to gangrape you by every holes and that it will kill all those great live services that you should absolutely not miss and spend all your money on it.

Like cmon, you know who is behind this massive campaign AGAINST this initiative, you know who is paying those bots, wake up fuckers!

>>714159138
Relying on private servers or p2p on a game you PAY for is giving away nothing for free and breaks no kike agreements.
It's how games worked 20 years ago when you weren't even sperms in your golem father's balls.

>>714159304
How would you realize that? I'm curious.

>>714159245
Explain how I lied, this would force companies to release an end of life solution which in some cases would be impossible or infringing on copyrights. You said valve would be forced to release their server host tech, you really think every company will happily do that, and for free so you can play their games without them making any more money from them? You are so naive.

>>714159191
>Wanting to own things is Communism

>>714159481
holy fucking based my brother

I just want that furry faggot to finally kill himself to be honest. Mandatory end of life server verification removal would only be a bonus.

were not this shill campaign to stop in July? why are You still here shilling?

STOP KILLING GAAAMES
STOOOOOOOOP
STOOOOOOP IT AAAAAA

>>714159447
Yeah but they need to release code that they might not want to. You think everything is a single player game. Explain to me how would this work for every single kind of game.

>>714159595
you lost

>>714154529
it's fucking on topic you triple nigger

I'm now convinced the backlash against this are:
>Crab-in-a-bucket sharty kids who just want everything to burn
>Paid Indians
>Bots
>Paid shills
>The occasional American who can't stop sucking corporate cock because they know nothing else (Enjoy the 4th July, by the way. You deserve a little rest from sucking corporate and jewish dicks all day)

>>714159585
>were not this shill campaign to stop in July?
THE CARD
YOU REDEEMED IT
WE CAME

>>714159542
>you really think every company will happily do that, and for free so you can play their games without them making any more money from them?
1. I don't care if companies do it happily, if it's the law they have to do it or else be punished and that's all I'm concerned about
2. Releasing server tools to be used by consumers so that they will continue to buy your game after it has been cut off from official support is the opposite of them not making any more money from those games

You are the stupidest son of a bitch in this thread and let me tell you there is a lot of competition

>>714154540
you're going to get raped

>>714153905
HOLY SHIT HE NEEDS TO MAKE A VIDEO
INSTANT 100% IF HE DOES
FELIX PLS, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE

>>714159653
yes I am paid by PirateSoftware

>MUH CODE MUH IP
server binaries are not source code retards

>>714159585
good morning saars

Oy vey this is highly anticapitalist and antisemitic, when did this board become so communist?

>>714159561
Well, theoretically communism is about worker ownership of the means of production (except in practice it always ends up being the state that owns everything "in the name of the proletariat").

>>714159380
I think with so many people emotionally committed to the initiative we'll have enough "juice" to do another big push at the end. All that needs to happen is for ross to make a final final video to tell people to ask their friends and family to sign.

Whatever happens it's going to be close to 1 million.

>muh IP
I can run a dedicated server for whatever ancient version of half life I have on cd. How does this involve valve handing me over their IP?

>>714159585
>Facebook filename
>ESL
>Coom slop
The holy trinity of the fags killing this site.

>>714158795
Retard. None of the old multiplayer LAN/Dedicated server games need you to do anything with their sourcecode. I am starting to think that all people shitpostig against this are underage and never played multiplayer videogames in the 90s or early 2000s.

>>714155254
HOW IS COMMUNISM OWNING THE THINGS YOU BUY YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>714159665
Dude, if they stop supporting their games then they will also stop selling it. If a game is shut down completely then just likely the company is not around anymore.
And you don't caring doesn't mean the companies will not care and stop releasing their games in the area because they will get punished if they do. Genius.

>>714159653
bingo

>>714159783
so you cannot give coherent answer?
keep shilling your political irrelevant trash on video games board

>>714154025
Fuck off retard

>>714159786
You stupid fixing slow donkey, you are still thinking in single player games. You still didn't explain how would it work for EVERY type of game.

>2k jump in half an hour
What the fuck???

>>714155178
>Yes? Who cares if addicts die?
Legitimate question?
Why should I have to pay taxes to fuel their hedonism?
We should all care, it could be someone you care about. Unchecked drug use affects non-addicts as well. It increases crime and disease which costs more of your tax dollars. Treating addiction like a health condition is a net positive for society, you end up saving more tax dollars with well-funded treatment programs. Instead of having a whole lot of dead people, ruined families and overcrowded prisons, you get a lot of addicts turned into functional members of society.
You’re either retarded, a troll or a psychopath.

>>714159790
>Dude, if they stop supporting their games then they will also stop selling it
This makes zero fucking sense when companies can literally just pull official server support and push the burden onto consumers after a set period of time while continuing to sell that game at full price for a profit.
>don't caring
I need you dumbass ESL tourists who understand nothing of logical thought to stay gone.

>>714159856
THE BROFIST ARMY, FOOL!

>>714155254
>tendie
>retarded beyond human comprehension
Checks out.

stop making games that require always-online infrastructure to function
it's not that hard

>>714156162
>this is the average AAA dev
holy KWAB nuke this industry already

>>714154895
reminder: you're a fag

>>714159653
You forgot gaming judas himself

>>714159787
Communism is when the government protects consumers from being scammed. It's my God given right to drink patent medicines dammit.

>>714159880
>I came up the idea called “jumping”

>>714156306
i just nooticed something about this post.

>>714159653
>a little rest from sucking corporate and jewish dicks all day
By buying over priced fireworks and consuming mountains of highfructose corn suryp products with cancer causing food colorings.
Sponsored by monsanto.

>>714159653
i am simply annoyed that this is so heavily shilled
i do not want MORE politics on this board
just fuck off to /pol/

>>714159880
We tendies are all for it though, since Nintendo has by itself moved to create option to continue playing EoS'd GaaS.

>>714159653
All me, bestie

>>714154025
Based. I can't wait for the government to send death squads into the offices of non-complying game companies and paint the walls red. Everyone snake deserves to die a traitor's death.

>>714159357
>free market
>commies force how you have to develop software
choose one

>>714159931
Moot is eternally a faggot for making /pol/ just to troll the /new/fags

>>714156162
>R E D D I T
gtfo

>>714154798
>the ones against this are browns
sure buddy

>>714159387
The cause is Steam.
If Steam would have failed, no one would have tried that BS.

But more and more gets normalized.
Next up: locking you out of $old_devices, and telling you to buy $new_device

>>714159872
HOW WOULD THIS WORK WITH FULL ONLINE GAMES WITH CONTINUOUS CONTENT RELEASE AND MTX (LIKE GACHA) WHEN THE COMPANY IS NOT DOING ANYTHING NEW FOR THE GAME? HOW WOULD THIS WORK FOR ANY GAME THAT IS NOT A STRICTLY SINGLE PLAYER GAME YOU FUCKING RETARD?

>>714159790
See
>>714157498

Never once did a private company me any harm. A shitty product never ruined my life and I'm old enough to make responsible decisions.
Everything fucked, stupid and truly damaging in my life is done via the state, and they enforce their horrible decisions on me via their monopoly on violence.

If you think this bureaucratic moloch filled with detached amoral old assholes will make video games better, then you are a fucking moron.

>>714159754
Anything the government does is Communism anon
Its your god given right to work a 90 hour work week to come home to your asbestos filled lead painted house and enjoy some antifreeze whine
True freedom

>>714159880
he openly ripped that off of pacland and even admitted it wasnt his idea what a hack

>>714159468
>I force you to do software development THIS WAY
fuck off, commie

>>714160027
By letting you buy the game and download its files but not providing the servers themselves to connect to and forcing the userbase to provide it?

I dunno why you're so worked up, this seems pretty simple to me.

>>714160027
>HOW WOULD THIS WORK WITH FULL ONLINE GAMES WITH CONTINUOUS CONTENT RELEASE AND MTX (LIKE GACHA) WHEN THE COMPANY IS NOT DOING ANYTHING NEW FOR THE GAME?
Stop adding new content.
Either patch out the always online phone home checker in the game and let it run offline, or release the server emulator software that they already use for testing.

>>714159961
>protecting your rights as a video game consumers on a video game board
>STOP WITH THE POLITICS YOU FUCKERS!!!
holy retard

>>714160039
Wishful thinking, but if anything goes wrong it doesn't affect you at all, it will affect me though. So fuck off.

>>714159983
>laws that say you own things is communism
ancap pls.

>>714159535
>It's how games worked 20 years ago
no, Steam established (((online DRM))) and you supported it.
>every game has online DRM now
BS
If you buy Hit-slop 2016 or Hit-slop 2 or Hit-slop 3, you are part of the problem.
If that would have failed, they wouldn't have continued with their online DRM slop.
Simple as.

>>714160027
DON'T MAKE THOSE GAMES AT ALL
THEY ARE BAD GAMES
IT IS BAD GAME DESIGN
JUST CUT IT OUT

>>714159968
>Nintendo has by itself moved to create option to continue playing EoS'd GaaS.
Dragalia...

>>714159561
>own things
>PC
choose one
also says the Steamie, who doesn't own anything lel

>>714160027
>live service games
make the game run offline and have the release contain all content, I don't see the problem.
>gacha
megaman gacha did it, so can the others
You're literally a schizo who lacks imagination, stop blaming others for your blindness

>>714160074
The government already forces companies to build cars, produce medicines, manufacture food and do literally everything else in ways designed to ensure that the consumer is actually getting what they are paying for.

>>714160027
Hey retard, you know gacha companies have done this before right? Look up Destiny's Child. It's entirely possible you shitbrained faggot.

>>714160090
I want Mona to sit on my face

>>714153823 (OP)
I can't sign the petition since I'm slav, but I'll take an honor of being anti-globoshlomo shield.
Fuck kikes, fuck PirateSoftware, fuck corpos who STORE A CHILD PORNOGRAPHY ON THEIR SERVES TO SPAM IT HERE.
You are affraid and I can smell the blood.
>>714153919
>game being advertaized at lauch as not scam
>ends up being one because publisher said so
KYS slomoid troglodyte.
>>714154025
Gov already censor games any way they want. No n-word, no rape, no genocides, children are immortal and etc.

>>714160087
So the company would still need to be around and keep hosting the files? How is that ending the support for the game?

Government steps in all the fucking time and you can't stop them from doing that
So what's the fucking problem if for once they do something pro consumer
Instead of pro lobbyist
You faggots are literally that meme
>I just wanted hot girls in my vidya
>And now oppose better medicare for works

>>714160048
And if this doesn't pass through the bureaucratic moloch that is EU suddenly dissappears? Only moron here is you.

>>714160123
Actually, Steam allows you to release games DRM-free and you don't have to include any sort of Steam-side DRM in your product, you can just release a game on Steam that can be pirated by copy-pasting the files to another PC and running it without Steam

Source: I worked on a game that functions like this and released on Steam

>>714160193
Best post itt

>>714159786
>Fortnite runs a simplistic Half-Slop dedicated server
LMAO

>>714159851
>WoW has private servers
You tell me nigger, if an MMO can have private servers made by the community there is no limit to what people can do if they have access. Corporate servers are not needed to support videogames. Corpos need to keep the videogames locked on their servers so they have control and can kill older games in order to force you to pay for their newer ones. It is way easier to kill the old game instead of making sure that the new game is worth the purchase. That's why corpo faggots delist old games right before they start selling remakes/remasters. People already discussed this in previous threads, i think that some of you are intentinally being stupid.

Reminder: anti-SKG posts are literally bots

I never had so many yous in my life, it was a blast
I am going off

>>714160090
And why would you play that without new content and in solo?

>>714160220
This, Steamworks DRM is not mandatory, but Valve pushes it and it's easy to implement so most games use it anyway.
Thankfully it's also piss easy to bypass.

>>714159519
The whole thing is just gay and getting spammed 24/7

>>714160176
>make Fortnite run offline
lol
>>714160190
no, they don't.
>actually getting what they are paying for
so where are cures for diseases then, fucking commie

>>714160193
Same but this Mona.

>>714157439
the EU doesn't really care about the details they regularly vote for stuff that they don't understand just to fuck over corpos.

>>714160219
You sound vaccinated.

>>714160220
>Steam
>release games DRM-free
impossible
also Valve literally tells devs to use even more drm

>>714160205
Are you not reading or something? The origin of SKG as a movement was shit like Ubisoft ending support for The Crew, which was an online-only game they pulled the plug on, so people who bought it could literally no longer play it and the game was just bricked data. Ubisoft has gone nowhere. Under SKG, they can either
1. Continue to sell that game but not provide servers once server support ends
2. Stop selling the game but provide tools for users to host servers once server support ends
Which one do you think has more profit involved? Hint: it's not 2. You have time to think.

>>714160173
Wuzzat?

>>714159984
sucks, don't it?
>>714159961
is this (You)?
>twitter screencap threads? based.
>borderline parasocial posts about game devs in studios like Bioware? based.
>protecting your VIDYA rights? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

>>714160271
>And why would you play that without new content and in solo?
Because it's a videogame? The live service component is part of the appeal but there's still story and gameplay to it as a singleplayer experience.
Release Genshin as a singleplayer paid game with all shit unlocked through gameplay and I'll play the fuck out of it too.

>>714160138
Ball is in cygames' court for DL. Also Nintendo hasn't shut off either of the 2 private servers.

>>714160190
>The government already forces companies to build cars, produce medicines, manufacture food and do literally everything else in ways designed to ensure that the consumer is actually getting what they are paying for.

do NOT look up what car companies do with Corporate Average Fuel Economy Credits. ESPECIALLY don't look up what Tesla was doing with them.

>>714160235
>the big company should release their files so the players can keep playing on private servers and not paying the monthly subscription to the company
Great idea! This will work so well! The likes of Bobby Kotick will jump on this idea on no seconds!! Trust the plan!

I agree on a principle. I want server browsers and self hosting option.

However, you "people" are the rong ones to go to bat over this. you are not qualified, you are cringe, and you are retarded.

You will fumble this. You have already fumbled this. You don't speak for me. Even if we agree on something. I don't recognize you.

>>714156162
PirateSoftware too has like 153 years of experience, but it turns out he is just a fraud that talks with his butt.

These people are just code monkeys that cannot even understand what they are talking about.

If the multiplayer mode of a game shuts down, you simply don't take away the license to let people play the single player mode. It's that easy.
The corpos like setting killswitches for their games, to force us to move on a newer games, and prevent self-competition.

>>714159883
This unironically. Especially singleplayer games that have no reason to be tied to the internet. I am still pissed when the Conan Exiles devs decided to add denuvo after release and the moment i tried to play the game offline with my internet down i was not able to do it. Fuck those niggers and fuck denuvo. I paid for that fucking game! I am still super mad! GAMES THAT CAN BE PLAYED IN SINGLEPLAYER SHOULD NOT NEED AN INTERNET CONNECTION TO DO SO!

>>714160290
>fortnite
in this case offline means privately ran servers, detached from epic, not that you could figure it out, neanderthal

>>714160345
>impossible
I dunno man, I worked on a game that fits those criteria and you didn't, so you seem like you might just be uninformed

>>714160290
>so where are cures for diseases then,
Not for sale.

I don't care if 100 mmos/live service games have to die
If it means I can play a 12 year old 6/10 single player game again

>>714160349
So how will it work for other situations? Like when a company goes bankrupt and dissolves?

>>714160074
Why do you think there's 100 pages of end user agreements and 10x more they file to the gov? It's already the case you fucking child lmao
It's been like that since the first PC.

>>714159983
>I'm going to develop software that replaces your cursor with a funny mouse icon and also in the background cleans your entire bank accounts
>wtf why is there a law that prohibits that, this literal communism

>>714160371
So how will SKG kill the games industry?

You don't actually want those games you just want to take a jab at corporations you pathetic poor fucks.

>>714160447
They make one final patch enabling user-side server hosting and move on? Perhaps even accounting for this kind of situation from early on in development because it will be the law? Why is this so hard for you to grasp?

>>714160397
>just give us your whole internal infrastructure
>no iam not a commie

>>714160246
And they raid with actual CP.
Kikes are shaking.

>>714160371
CAFE was written by car industry lobbyists to bully small (literally and metaphorically) car makers out of the business, and ban imports.

>>714160447
They better make a game with that possibility in mind or prepare for a lawsuit

>>714160487
sure do, nigger!

>>714160349
the crew was really only targeted because it did at one point have an entirely offline mode that was seemingly patched out, it even fills the map with bot players if your connection is weak or you have a bad nat. there isn't much to the game that actually was online aside from the party aspect and even then it was like 8 players in your instance at max. not a complicated online game

>>714160290
Fortnite can already run on LAN for tournaments tho

>>714160487
>You don't actually want those games
I do in fact want the games i paid for. I PAID FOR THOSE GAMES! I DID NOT PAY FOR A SUBSCRIPTION!

>>714160367
So long Judas

>>714160570
lol

>>714160487
i had games i loved be closed, i had others i didn't care about get closed too, but even those i didn't care about had people who wished they could still play them.
you have no reason as a gamer to be against stop killing games, at worst you should be indifferent, at best you should be happy about it.

>714160521
keep it up, you're doing a great job, don't stop screaming into the void

>>714160092
it is literally political
it does not matter if it is about fairies, video games or dinosaurs, its place is on /pol/ not here
kill yourself subhuman filth nigger go purchase game on steam or something

>>714160487
I want to curb stomp every single corporate kike

>>714160536
ok so what you're saying is the government does NOT actually force companies to do anything they allow the companies to write the rules and then lackadaisically enforce them when politically convenient.

>>714160563
yeah which makes it an even better example because it's trivial to let people just play it

>>714153905
Hope he makes a video too.

>>714160553
SLUT

Arguments so far against the initiative itt:
>lying
>pretending to not understand the initiative
>pretending to not undertand what the initiative aims to do
>posting reddit screenshots
>calling you commie
>calling you a tranny
>calling you brown
>calling you retarded
>criticizing Ross's appearence

>>714160606
>commies forcing devs to give their secret LAN

>>714160586
>i agreed to the steam-slop subscriber agreement

>>714154025
sorry lolbert, you WILL have consumer rights whether you like it or not

>>714160628
go back to china commie