Thread 714161020

>this is communism
>you don't want to get the government involved in this trust me bro
>you aren't a dirty commie are you?
>this is government overreach
>it has always been a service
>nothing will change if it goes through
>companies will just circumvent it
>read the fine print better next time
>eceleb supports this so you must do the opposite
>poor companies will have to expend extra money and effort
>consumer protection laws are communism

Glad to live in the EU and support their initiatives, folks
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

There really needs to be something in place that isolates your IP address to /pol/ as soon as you post there.

Pity bump

>>714161307
/v/ would instantly lose 95% of its posters.

If that's what you'd like, just find another empty altchan with a videogame board.

>>714161020 (OP)
You failed.

>>714162447
you wish

How is wanting to protect private property communism? What's the problem with americans?

>>714162854
>>714162934
We are taking your toys away and you will have to deal with it.

>>714162447
>The Streamer Awards
>Run by QTCinderella (Ludwig's girlfriend)
>Ludwig and PirateSoftware founded and manage their GAAS publisher Offbrand together
more like The Nepo Awards lmao amirite

>>714161020 (OP)
>my neo soviet union is good because the unelected officials defend our right for bread and circus

>>714161020 (OP)
>self censorship
>removing ''problematic content''
>banwaves
>hiring a bunch of idiots who've never coded in their lives to make the company look good
>changing original scripts to fit ''the modern narritive''
all of this happened without government intervention
at this point i fail to see how the EU can make it any worse

>>714161020 (OP)
>>you don't want to get the government involved
They are always involved, them not doing anything is just their stance.

>>714162447
0.16% increase per hour, schlomo.

>>714163190
You could've just started there, you know?

>>714163560
>wanting to not get fucked in the ass is communism
Ask me how I know you're a muttmerican

>>714163832
None of the things you've mentioned have anything to do with the nature of the initiative

>>714163867
>anon complains that government does nothing, but he screetches like an autist when they do in fact do something
So which one is it?

>poster whines about communism
>also supports abolishing private property rights
What causes this?

Yes, you've quoted me correctly.

Now face the wall, please.

>>714161020 (OP)
If you are Yuropean and don't sign this, you're a fucking faggot.

t. American.

can't you just not buy shit games

why is the flag shaped like a gay anus?

>>714164415
>"publishers acting like retards is YOUR FAULT, CHUD"

>>714164471
how do you know it's a gay anus?

>>714161020 (OP)
I will not apologize for not liking authoritarianism even when it does things I want.

>>714164492
how are they acting retarded in the case related to the petition? cutting costs on nonprofitable ventures?

>>714164471
>anon sees stars shaped in a circle
>thinks of gay faggot shit immediately
i dunno what to tell you, faggot

>>714164606
nigger I bought the game and i want to play for as long as I fucking want to, it's not that hard of a concept to fucking grasp

ITT
Mutts that can't into politics since EU isn't dumbed down to "us vs them" like it is in muttistan

>>714163410
oy vey, enough with the anti-semitism

>>714164695
it is us vs them though. it's the eurocrat politician caste vs the rubes.

>>714164875
Proved my point hah he can't into eu politics

>>714162934
Anything that goes against rich elite and/or corporations in any way is communism.
It is strange attitude from Americans, but admiration of the rich and celebrities is core part of their culture. Same with serving corporations and rich overlords, it is seen as privilige and something to be proud about. Hell, they even cheer for their brands when they go to work and it is seen as completely normal. They see lack of happiness for rich as strange and "slippery slope towards socialism". Well most Americans think my country is "very Russian in culture" and 3rd world shithole so I don't really take their opinion seriously.
But it still good thing to keep in mind when discussing with Americans, their culture is just inherently different and doesn't really work with other Western countries.

>>714164681
uhhh you bought a license

>>714164104
>So which one is it?
Neither. I mostly screech at one group - devs that make SP games but then force online on you, I got burned by Conan Exiles like this.
MMOs? Lost cause in my eyes, but I don't like the practice of putting singleplayer games into forced online. That's the shit I screech at.

>>714163560
>unelected officials
EU parliament members are directly elected by people. This legislative body than nominates EU commission (bureaucratic apparatus) which is not elected but each member has to to approved by said EU parliament.
It is just a variation of standard legislative vs executive branch.

>>714164953
>he can't into eu politics
correct. the average european citizen cannot get involved in politics. it's for a separate class of people that replaced the aristocracy.

average american is more involved in local politics than the european

>>714164994
>buy a car
>get a car
>buy a washing machine
>get a washing machine
>buy a house
>get a house
>buy a tv
>get a tv
>buy a game
>get a license and 300 pages saying how you in fact did not buy a game but only the access to it, exempting the publisher from any legal repercussion

you realize how fucking retarded this is?

>>714165429
>buy a license
>license is revoked
do you realize how simple that sounds? only one retarded is you. call it scummy or cheap, but the retard is still you.

>>714165247
What do they teach you in American schools? Jesus Christ you're delusional

>>714165121
>EU parliament members are directly elected by people
whose votes are swayed by media exposure. candidates that get boosted by bullshit tabloid articles are the ones that get elected.

>>714165546
Ok. Then I'll try to circumvent the government into fighting these scummy business practices.
Nothing personal. I just want whoever did me wrong to suffer.

>>714165429
>buy a car
Nobody does this anymore.

>>714165584
>What do they teach you in American schools?
About pronouns, genders and HRT treatments.
Sometimes we get dragqueens telling us stories about how many bodies zhe/zhey had in one night (probably 3digit) and how many of them contracted some STD out of nowhere and how liberating that was

>>714165694
and you'll never buy a license to server software so good luck with that. at least the single player stuff might hopefully get fixed.

>>714165768
The amount of friends I have that bought a new car in the last 4 years disagrees with oyu.

>>714165810
I don't even want to buy licences anymore, anon.
I want to own the games I buy.
It's not a difficult concept.

>>714165805
but enough about EU mandates

>>714165921
and game on the disc is not the thing it communicates with on server side. you "have" the game regardless. this is a big whole can of worms that extends beyond video games which is why I'm really skeptical on success. imagine people on facebook wanting access to marketplace after for some reason facebook goes down.

>>714161020 (OP)
>you don't want to get the government involved in this trust me bro
>this is government overreach
>it has always been a service
>nothing will change if it goes through
>companies will just circumvent it
>read the fine print better next time
these are all valid and correct arguments.

>consumer protection laws are communism
protection from what? their own idiocy? they are never misled about what they buy, and live service games shutting down is nothing like lead gasoline or asbestos

>Less than 10k needed per day
>Getting about 30k on average

>>714165768
speak for yourself, faggot

>>714165546
>get scammed
>"haha sucks to such hahaha"
>"huh? you want to throw the jab back at them? you can't do that!!! why? BECAUSE IT'S WRONG!!!!

Fucking. Kill. Yourself.

>>714161020 (OP)
What are you doing? You're not trying to convince the burger chompers to avoid the petition, they have no power over it. You need to convince the Euros.
Also holy shit, this is why the Americans are mad about this. It's about them not having power over something.

>>714166192
>they are never misled about what they buy
Are you serious?

Would be wild if this results in EULAs being updated to saying "we can pull the plug at any point" forefront. Assuming that's not somewhere there anyway.

>tiktok goes down
>I can still open the app but it does nothing
#stopkillingsocialmedia

>>714166592
Did you buy a copy of tiktok?

It's quite the abstract feel to have been fucked by EU policies for 20+ years and now seeing yanks praising this destructive bureaucratic machine.

>>714166723
I donated to my favorite tiktokers and can't anymore.

>>714166723
Did you buy a copy of your game's server?

>>714164286
>Now face the wall, please.

>Local drug dealer gets shot
>I can't buy my drugs
#stopkillingdrugdealers

This is actually good for companies, just make it so people can rent or subside access to games for an additional fee. Once there is low player count just make the sub a $1000 or something.

>>714166947
?

>>714167139
???

>>714167224
I see you don't understand all the repercussions and just want your bing bing.

>>714167317
Or maybe your analogies are pretty retarded, who knows

>>714167390
There's no analogy here. You bought the client, not the server. Server went down, client is useless.

>>714165121
EU parliament is a fucking joke

>>714166825
>have been fucked by EU policies for 20+ years
EU is the only thing stopping my politicians from running my country into the ground with no survivors
Every positive thing that i've seen politically, any public investment, any standardization, any regulation, has been EU
You're sucking on russkie propaganda because they're afraid of a united, strong continent, they want us to be shattered and divided

>>714167507
are you east of germany perchance?

>>714167430
>client is useless.
not SKG compliant, then.

For our diabetes loving friends across the pond, here's a comparison even (You)'d understand:
USA
>freedom to do stuff
>eg corporations having the freedom to put corn syrup into as many products as as possible
EU
>freedom from stuff
>eg consumers being freed from corporations putting nasty things into food

If you have a little trouble understanding this, may I remind you
>government is elected
>by the people
>for the people
Therefor
>government regulations are by the people, for the people

>>714167564
I have no idea what you mean.

>>714167548
south of it actually

>>714165768
>Buy a used car
>Get a used car

>>714167615
what are you doing in this thread then?

>>714161020 (OP)
I was gonna tell you to buy an ad. But that's a big ask for the common Europoor.

>>714167934
Are you talking about the pipedream? So what? Again, you think this is just video games, but this would cause tremors all over software industry. I'm not saying it's not worth fighting for but I really doubt any legislature will let this pass by without influence and "insight" from bigger boys.

>blink once
>3600 more signatures

Shills on suicide watch

>>714167580
USA
>can choose to not buy dogshit
EU
>babyproof society for the lowest common denominator retards

Better blunt that butter knife pajeet.

>>714161020 (OP)
I swear the commitment to being as contrarian as humanly possible. Even if it means fucking yourself over just to be the other team.

I will never understand the thought process behind being ok with it.

>>714168290
>this would cause tremors all over software industry.
oh I wish.

>>714168395
You do know that butter knives are blunt, right? They are meant to be blunt. You must be thinking about knives.

>>714167580
>EU
>>freedom from stuff
wheres my detachable bottlecaps?

>>714168542
That would be a sight to see for sure.

>>714168449
>I will never understand the thought process behind being ok with it.
It's mostly because people think you can choose not to buy always online single-player games and they'd prefer you'd do that instead of crying to daddy government to insert itself into things where it does not belong.

>Musk jumping in for gamer clout and attention because he's a spotlight thirsty bitch.
I welcome the signatures from the (sadly, large) number of Muskdrones and his jeet army that has unfortunately migrated to Europe, but you will still never be a gamer.

>>714161020 (OP)
it doesn't have to be communism to be a bad idea to ask the EU of all institutions to do more

>>714161020 (OP)
We literally already have the right to ownership in the EU. The petition LITERALLY doesn't change anything for the better here for the consumer, since it promises things WE ALREADY FUCKING HAVE.
But you keep licking those government boots. I'm sure more oversight from Brussels is gonna fix things any day now.

>>714168559
Being sharp or blunt isn't binary. You can make something already sharp more sharp and something blunt more blunt.

>>714168574
just rip it off? for all the manly posturing anti eu guys do this is most embarrassing.

>>714161020 (OP)
EU is cancer

>>714168652
>We literally already have the right to ownership in the EU
not what SKG is about.
read the initiative points next time.

>>714168652
>it promises things WE ALREADY FUCKING HAVE
...such as?

>>714168649
>don't do anything, just let corps fuck you in the ass and be helplessly happy about it okay?

>>714161020 (OP)
eu is legitimately dogshit, members of it like duchland and france literally swarmed with somalis and achmeds and people are forced to prison for preventing them from raping children or even living in their own homes. but I support SKG
I will never ever ever ever ever say a kind word about EU just for passing this. this is throwing a bone to a dead dog.

>>714168574
That's is freedom to, not freedom from.
The idea behind the law is the freedom from litter and somewhat indirectly but a real life logical cause is the freedom from looking after your bottle cap.
A lot of manufacturers use bottle+cap combos you can easily rip off too. Even those who just make sturdy ones can easily be ripped off... unless... you're willing to admit that you're too weak for that.

>>714161307
>>714161415
/v/ isn't like this because of /pol/
/pol/ is like that because of /v/

>>714167580
isn't negative freedom in the english tradition, and positive freedom in the continental tradition?

>>714168640
tl;dr: The US has a culture of victim blaming and massive case of "fuck you, got mine" syndrome.

>>714168687
That's binary with extra steps

>>714161307
Instant 3 day ban on all blue boards for posting on /pol/

>>714161020 (OP)
I am a registered communist and I signed the petition

EIN GAMERVOLK
EIN UNION
EIN FUHRER

weird how this mostly affects absolutely shit games

>>714168708
>just adapt to the new humiliation ritual bro thats true freedom
eucucks in a nutshell

>>714168907
You mean positive and negative liberty, yes? It's a French/German/English mix as far as I remember

>>714169102
doesn't matter, the issue is not individual but systemic

>>714169102
For me it's the "Past Actions" tab on their website where it shows that absolutely 0 organizations have given a fuck about it so far.

>>714169170
is public defecation ban a humiliation ritual to you as well?

The shills are hilarious because we already won. We were already on pace to get 1 million signatures and then pewdiepie made a post about it. It's over. We won.

We are all laughing at you shills. No matter how hard you cry the reality is that we are going to hit 1 million signatures and you can't do anything to prevent it. So give up, or keep bootlicking, or whatever you morons feel like doing. It'll be funny either way.

Get fucked.

>>714169408
I'll laugh when I see what you actually won.

>>714169394
I didnt know people were shitting in the streets of europe before EU outlawed it.

looks like pewdiepie wont be the last

>>714169408
Cope harder :^)

I'll be honest, I simply do not care about the plight of the developer when it comes to this matter. This industry has endlessly lied to, gaslight, and outright scammed its consumers for years, even as tools have made development easier than any point in history. I don't care if it makes development slightly more difficult. Devs in 1999 managed it with far worse tools.

WOAH NELLY

>>714162447
Rank 6 Blizzard employee

>>714169649
Yeah now that the Big Boss himself commented, we're expecting more famous youtubers to chime in.

>thought it was gonna slow down
>it's not
>it's speeding up

>>714163190
great larp i r8 8/8

>>714169642
was quite popular actually, same with littering. getting water supply and plumbing helped with former but even despite many public awareness campaigns about the caps people still littered, so this thing was made. personally I'd ban plastic containers completely but at least it's something.

>>714169753
this. the rampant inflation of everything needs to end

>>714169753
You're too retarded to know the difference between developers and publishers

>>714161020 (OP)
>you don't want to get the government involved in this trust me bro
>this is government overreach
I live in the EU. I signed the petition. And I still agree with those two points.
It would be great if the industry would be self regulating, but they pushed too far, so its time to push back. And since a consumer can't do much, the only way to fight back is to use the .gov.

>>714162447
>twitch.tv/qtcinderella
lule
love from kazakhstan

>>714161307
You just saved 4chan

>>714161020 (OP)
the eu is commie though
the initiative is the opposite

>>714169408
With all the traction this has gotten, even if the EU signature would fail, even if the parlament would rule against it, the fact that this has reached this level public discourse is something i couldn't have dreamt off
Companies will figure out that being forward with a sunset plan is easy PR in a world of Ubisofts

>>714163410
Nooooo, stop nooticing.

>>714168395
>>can choose to not buy dogshit
>most of the population is absolute niggercattle or inbred
>they buy horseshit in mass
>because horseshit is so profitable, everything becomes horseshit
free market 101

>>714163832
>at this point i fail to see how the EU can make it any worse
Currently there's something called "Ministry of Digitalization" which is developing anti-American apps that are tied to the user's national ID and credit card information. They are building a surveillance state and trying replace 4chan, Reddit, Facebook and X with a national-specific, and EU-specific app, so the government can always keep everybody in line.

Also it starts in UK but it's coming to EU eventually: They want to ban access 4chan. I'm already finding lots of newspaper headlines calling it "Right wing extremist", "misogynist board" etc.

Just this month a dozen things that used to be legal have become criminalized related to computer-use. AI pornography laws getting tightened, politicians getting ousted for dating 16-year-olds despite being above age of consent.

When you see "Woke" shit in games, it isn't because there's activist groups creating "DEI". It's EU-ridden legal shit that forces companies to comply and there's also a quota-system where you're forced to have a 50/50 split between male and female employees. It's not by choice, it's by law, that vidyas are being ruined.

It's literally 1984 over here.

>>714169924
>the eu is commie though
The EU isn't anything because it's ruled by an elected government. Right now it's center-right, for example.

>>714169408
>28.000 signatures today already and the day isn't even done
>the average signatures per day dropped from 12.000 to 9.800

Let's goooo.

>>714161020 (OP)
>stopping borderline scams and scummy practices via regulations is communism
crinfe

>>714169958
>Sourceless IESLB
Saar, vacate the thread. You failed in your task.

>>714162934
>>714164978
What the fuck does any of this have to do with America, you mindbroken niggers?

>>714163560
>The political entity that has been pushing for economic austerity for 30+ years is communist
actual 80 IQ

>>714169834
my country in eu has none of those problems but standardization forces us to adopt these regulations designed for nigger amoebas. maybe eu should consider not importing infinite niggers so these problems wouldnt manifest.

>>714162447
Past the 700,000 mark, faggot. Daily signiture goal has lowered to under 10k per day.
We're winning this.

>>714170053
That's their motivation. They just hate America.
Even though ubisoft is French.

I'm just worried we're going to get complacent and stumble at the finish line. I hope not, but I'm just a pessimist.

>>714170104
>maybe eu should consider not importing infinite niggers so these problems wouldnt manifest.
Well they're not anymore because we voted for them to not do it. Even the Germans stopped supporting NGOs that did rescue ops wholesale.

>>714161020 (OP)
I think corpos being cockblocked from doing abusive shit is a good thing, actually.

>>714170053
Americans keep coming to these threads to call it communism

>>714161020 (OP)
Imagine unironicly calling the 4th Reich a communist state (even though its factually true).

>>714169969
>center-right
lol

>>714170104
that's another thing but I agree. but I'll still go on on the cap thing because it just might be something you don't see if you don't look for it and even if they skewed the numbers, is humiliation ritual really a better explanation than a number game?

>>714170192
>because we voted for them to not do it.
And yet you're still getting flooded with them, democracy in action huh.

>>714170248
>lol
You should look at the parties of the people elected to the EU parliament my uninformed friend.

>>714168290
>this would cause tremors all over software industry
Stop, I can only get so erect.

>>714170180
My biggest worry is that we get 1 million, and then people will see that it "reached" the goal, and then not bother to sign, and then later when they count out the valid signatures it ends up less than a million

>>714169975
What website is this?

>>714170197
You're not voting for corporations to buy abuse shit, you're voting for an alteration of rights in regards to ownership.

>>714170284
>And yet you're still getting flooded with them
Italy saw the sharpest decline of illegal immigration in years, reducing it by 60% from 2023 to 2024, and that number has still shrunk significantly in 2025. With Germany withdrawing support to the NGOs responsible for half of the rescues, it'll be even lower by 2026.

>>714170346
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev
This needs to be added to OPs

>We need at least 9851 signatures per day on average!
>Signatures today: +29.036

Nice

>>714170397
It is in the OP.

>>714169941
>everything becomes horseshit
waiting for this part to happen

>>714170387
literally tap the sign meme, how does that reverse over ten years of the flood

All things considered, I'm glad we have the EU. I can't imagine anybody giving this much of a shit about an initiative in any individual country in Europe.
If the threat were that France or Germany alone could pass a law, nobody would care.

>>714170067
I never said I considered soviet union to be communist. it was an inner circle pretending to represent the average citizen. much like how eu is.

This isn't communism, but it is retarded regulation that any company will go around easily. The problem isn't muh games, it's EULA's in general, which no government will touch since. tech!/military will not allow them to touch it. What you need to do is to push for right to repair shit that doesn't even allow companies to make these retarded pre-contracts

>>714168395
US
>can chose
Yea... maybe in the first year something hits the market. Look at for example something like a phone without a headphone jack. You had every mobile phone maker mock Apple for removing it. And next gen followed apple.
Same with any other anti consumer practice. The first company to do it is testing the waters, then slowly the rest follow. And no matter what you say, a few large companies hold the monopoly, and its really REALLY difficult to chose after they decide to shit on a product.

Nope, not singing it. Modern gaming is pure cancer and it deserves to die

>>714170547
This would help killing it tho

death to the EU
I will never support them regulating anything ever
my country needs to leave it ASAP

>>714170507
>how does that reverse over ten years of the flood
The "flood" is sensationalized bullshit created to demoralize you. Things will get and are getting better. Italy is still 96% Italian.

>>714170472
>waiting for this part to happen
it already started anon

>>714161307
and what happens to niggas who just turn their router on and off?

>>714170458
Oh, my bad

>>714170529
>push for right to repair shit
already done nigga.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20240419IPR20590/right-to-repair-making-repair-easier-and-more-appealing-to-consumers
expect phones to come with removable battery by default from next year.

>>714170529
>it's EULA's in general,
It literally has nothing to do with EULAs. It's all copyright as much as moldman and his cronies want to tell you otherwise

>>714170673
>cronies
Lmao

>>714170387
wow so the floodgate has been closed. great. what about the million browns already in?

>>714170514
Anyone who is retarded enough to think this should not vote. The EU is a self defeating cancer that the US and China play like a fiddle. It is already cracking under the strain of a France/Germany rivalry and Spain being insolvent for the past 40 years

>>714170656
Give me 3 and 9.

Do not celebrate too early, try to keep up the momentum.

This speed can only be kept up if everyone does their part in spreading the petition. If you celebrate too quickly, it could very well stop dead in its track just before the deadline.

>>714170290
so then why is every eu country except for maybe poland, hungary, slovakia a turbo woke commie shithole filled with migrants
lol

>>714170708
>>714170709
Sirs coordinated to post these.

>>714170627
>UK pounds
>a whole lot of shit I don't want in my car
>BMW
Did you post the wrong image?

>>714170787
Because you're uninformed and decide to willfully blind yourself to reality lest you see your worldview is wrong.

>>714162447
b-b-but thirdies!!??

>>714163410
>PirateSoftware founded and manage their GAAS publisher
Now I fucking understand why he hates it. It would directly cut into his business. I thought he was just a prick all this time. Well, he still is but that makes it clearer as to why.

>>714170617
Doesn't look so in my land (Graz)

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