It's been years and Blood Elves joining the Horde over the Alliance still makes no sense

Sylvanas is an angry elf

They're cool as fuck so I don't mind.

They're crackheads that high elves didn't want and blizzard still refuses to add them

>>714168937 (OP)
Night Elves joining the Alliance makes even less sense.

>>714168937 (OP)
Addicted to horde cock harder than their mana addiction
>>714169354
This

They needed a race for coomers to balance the factions

>>714168937 (OP)
all elves are made for big horde cock, belves are just more open about it

>>714168937 (OP)
Why did they change the image?

>>714168937 (OP)
didn't the alliance imprison their entire race and put them up for execution
you can't pin something on that scale entirely on garithos, he had to have been acting with full consent and support of the king

I am fully convinced in tbc the horde got the belves instead of ogres, goblins, and even the broken purely out of spite.

Spite towards who or what I don't know, but it's such a dumb decision that it feels petty and personal.

>>714168937 (OP)
The gist of the lore is the alliance basically snubbed them in their darkest hour and the forsaken didn't.

The blood elves and the forsaken have a particularly tight bond because sylvanas was their leader (Former Ranger general) and they were former residents of Lordaeron whom they were allied with and interacted with regularly.

>>714168937 (OP)
funny how people who bitch about this never bitch about night elves being alliance when they fit better in the horde

>>714168937 (OP)
Neither did Undead joining the Horde, or Night Elves joining the Alliance.

Fantasy is really about aesthetics. I don't care what justification you come up with, it doesn't fit.

>>714168937 (OP)
At the time of their inclusion, you have to remember that:
>their last dealings with the Alliance almost wiped out their remaining people (Garithos)
>one of their leaders is part of the Horde (Sylvanas)
>the Horde was full of races one their last legs and willing to work together for survival, which is exactly what the Blood Elves were going through

>>714169598
I feel like people always forget that the undead are literally the humans of lordaeron, not some squatters.

>WHY DIDN'T ALLIANCECHADS GET THE BIG BOOBED BELF BABES!!!!
please play warcraft 3

>>714168937 (OP)

>>714168937 (OP)
Because they are edgy, or at least they were in tbc

>>714168937 (OP)
the ultimate TRVKE is that WoW was ruined the second they decided to go back on the end of WC3 by making it two faction PvP sloppa. Every race should have been a unique faction that influences but doesn't lock in your relations with every other race

>>714168937 (OP)
Blizz added them because chinks refused to play "ugly" Horde races
That's it
That's literally the reason

>>714169590
>>714169627
This. Horde should have remained the designated monster faction. Blizzard caters too much to coomfaggots, trannies and furries

>>714169864
God I wish belves maintained their characterisation from the tbc trailer. I don't think that even lasted through tbc.

>>714168937 (OP)
Reminder that Lor' themar won

>>714169538
>Why did they change the image?
to appease the femishit screeching

womans posture on the left is feminine and submissive
womans posture on the right is masculine and assertive

>>714169864
>90% of your race gets massacred by the undead
>Your font of power and magic gets corrupted and used to resurrect a lich
>Your former allies imprison and murder your kind
>Forced to feed off creatures and demons for energy

Not gonna lie I'd become emo and edgy as fuck if that happened to me too

>>714169953
Restoring the Sunwell was a genuine narrative mistake

>>714169538
>the fingers from the old art still on the guy's shoulder
KEKLMAOOOOOOOOO

Everything since TBC has been a mistake

>>714170029
>still forgotten by the devtroons
Good. Let's keep it that way

>>714168937 (OP)
Blood elves were a mistake.

First expac should've been high elves + ogres.

Simple as.

>>714168937 (OP)
There are no male Blood Elves

>>714170029
>Plows blue elf pussy on the daily
>One of the few relevant characters that is married
>Your people respect the fuck out of you to be their leader
>The leaders of the other factions also like you

Bro is actually winning at life, I'd love it if he was the warchief

>>714170281
High elves are blood elves. It's literally just a fucking name change. Almost 20 years later and retards still don't grasp this.

>>714170262
Chances are the will do something with him in Midnight

>>714170029
>fucks an eggless grannytranny
>won
lol

Alliance:
>Humans
>Dwarf
>Gnome
>High elf

Horde:
>Orcs
>Trolls
>Tauren
>Ogre

Night Elves
>Night Elves

Forsaken
>Forsaken

>>714169538
same reason they changed a bunch of paintings of women to paintings of fruit
gotta appease twitter trannies and make it look like they are "LE FIGHTING LE SEXISM" when in reality they're not doing shit

>>714170606
>paintings of women to paintings of fruit
Don't remind me

>>714170112
>Cracked out fel-corrupted nobility half-heartedly maintaining the guise of high society and frivolous house drama. Every so often the facade cracks and they lose their shit scrambling like animals over a mana crystal
>rest of the horde treats them with distance like they're a schizo bomb that can go off at any moment
what could have been

>>714170606
And don't forget the removal of a bunch of flirt emotes and problematic references

>>714170371
The only difference between them iirc is that the blood elves fed off demonic energy and followed Quel'thas as their leader
The high elves refused both the magic and Quel'thas and stayed with the alliance.

Although the demonic magic thing doesn't really work anymore because they're all basically cured of their magic addiction.

>>714168937 (OP)
So are High Elves pretty much just Quel'thalas betrayers?

>>714170693
>removing attractive women is empowering
lol
lmao
troons are retarded

>>714170793

>>714170793
>Nice pants, what's the drop rate?

Such a good /flirt that was removed cause of DEI pussies

>>714168937 (OP)
It's been years where everything Blizzard does with WoW makes no sense, but here we are.

>>714170830
Kael renamed High Elves to Blood elves in honor of those that fell to the scourge, the fel consumption that happened later had nothing to do with it.
Anyone elf calling themselves a high elf is spitting on the graves of their own families

>>714170968

>>714171037

>>714170968
>>714171037
still cant believe people actually still play this game. have they no dignity?

>>714171125
>have they no dignity?
Doubt it

>>714170847
>So are High Elves pretty much just Quel'thalas betrayers?

What? High Elves either left before Quel'thalas fell or shortly after. Many would have been scattered around the world doing other things, being part of Jaina's expedition for example. Kael led the ones who stayed and they called themselves Blood Elves and then left Azeroth.

>>714171025
Yea submitting to the Orcs and Undeads who killed your own kind is cool however

>>714170964
Not empowering. Their goal is to remove all sexuality or to make everything else as ugly as they are. It makes them feel better about themselves. Real women do it too.

>>714170029
AHHHH I WANT A TALL PURPLE GFFFFFFFFFF

>>714171196

>>714170847
Not exactly, they just had different viewpoints.

Stated within their law ALL members the Quel'Dorei race are allowed within Quel'thalas.
Sin'Dorei (Blood elves) Quel'Dorei (High elves) Ren'Dorei (Void elves)

>>714170970
>she told me to tie her up, and do whatever I wanted to her. So I took her stereo.

>>714171270

>>714171228
What does that have to do with it
We're talking about the name of the race

Why not just split the factions by continent?

Alliance
>Human
>Dwarf
>Gnome
>Undead
>Blood Elf

Horde
>Orc
>Troll
>Tauren
>Night Elf
>Draenei

Imagine giving a fuck about the antifa race designed to appeal to gooks when Night Elves exist

>>714168937 (OP)
Blood Elf and Night Elf interaction in Warcraft III TFT
>Hey man how've you been, long time no see!
Blood Elf and Night Elf interaction in World of Warcraft
>If you ever come within a 10 mile radius of me I will kill you and your whole family

>>714171465
Wrong pic

>>714170408
Pray they don't lol. He's the only male leader still in WoW that's relatively untouched by Blizzard's writing. He's also actually on the surplus good side because he got himself a sexy purple amazonian elf. Wouldn't trust nublizz to keep it that way though.

>>714171531
He got himself a tranny + this character literally stole the place of Kael, betraying him for the sake of orc cocks

>>714168937 (OP)
What they did to Kael'thas is insane and the thing is his story could've been so good
You could have him as a mirror to Arthas, a prince who was desperate to save his homeland and people at any cost. However have Kael'thas realise that by siding with the Legion and Kil'jaeden that he is just going down the same path as Arthas.
>kael turns down kil'jaeden
>have blood elf betrayers to the legion still invade the sunwell so the fury of the sunwell patch happens but instead kael returns to libarate the sunwell
>fights with us against kil'jaeden and gets to see the sunwell restored by velen
>come wrath he is the racial blood elf leader
>he joins in the invasion of northrend and the war against the scourge and arthas hungry for vengeance
>maybe have him in ice crown citadel like garrosh was
>kael gets all of lor'themar's roles
>going to the isle of thunder
>present with jaina after the sha of pride is killed and they find gorehowl
>gets together with thalyssra
>fights azshara along side jaina
But no, fuck that, just killing him is way more interesting. I hear they made him worse in shadowlands too, making him a prideful dick. It's like the people that did kael in wow never played tft

>>714171357
>You look pretty, I like your hair, here's a drink... Are you ready now?

>>714171037
>TOWN DWELLERS could be here

>>714171389
what are these from?

>>714171124
so she's now a willing lobotomy experiment

>>714171706
Nigga stop projecting

>a "your mom" joke was too triggering for blizzard
the absolute state

>>714172451
>>714170793
Hey you have to remember children play this game!

>>714172646
(the child is danuser)

It never made sense that Goblins and Tauren are friends either.
Love playing a Tauren, but the lore is bullshit. They really make them cowardly and passive as fuck and just allow them to rape the earth mother

WoW was testing badly in china because the horde made up 0.1% of the population because they wont play "ugly" races. So they added pretty white elves to the horde so the chinese market would play the game and balance the factions.

>>714172646
Censoring art is a sinister motivation. Fucking neopuritan bootlicking pussies

>>714172646
Don't open it Steve

>>714172835
Brought to you by (((Ion Hazzikostas)))

>>714172646
The 'bitch' line was out of place in WoW, no other part of the game has language like that and it appears quite early when leveling undead.
It was cool, I liked it, Sylvanas was a bitch and Garrosh was based. But I get why they removed it and out of all the ways they've pussified WoW over the years this one is at least reasonable and I don't think it was purely motivated by woke bullshit

>>714168937 (OP)
I like them

>>714169926

Yup

>>714173028
>The 'bitch' line was out of place in WoW, no other part of the game has language like that

>>714171037
>>714170968
>>714171124
Are these removed in Classic as well?

>>714172808
Reminder that the Tauren are the main reason the undead, life-hating, plague-spreading scourge rejects joined the Horde.

>>714169354
>hordeniggers kill cenarius
That is enough of a reason
>>714170331
>faggot who wears taller and taller heels everyday because he's isnecure that his wife is taller than him
>winning
He's a bitch ass faggot who came crawling to Varian and was gargling his nuts during MoP never forget blo*d elf cuck

Still the best MMO

>>714172646
Remember when they renamed Mac'Aree?

>>714173201
Yes

>>714169538
What fantasy video games about elves and powerful magic will allow me to experience the fantasy of casting a powerful spell to impress my elf gf?

>>714171518
>expecting consistency or logic from the massive hack called metz*n

>>714173075

Whoa! Thats By way of booty bay. What a blast from the past.

>>714172835
he censored it because the character being called a bitch was his waifu
yes, really

>>714168937 (OP)
What went so wrong?

idk i don't follow horde lore
how the FUCK did sylvanas become warchief

>>714169728
Plus quite a few undead silvermoon elves. Sylvanas was far from the only familiar face in the forsaken to the blood elves.

>>714173412
Right?

>>714168937 (OP)
Its like that with a lot of things due to forcing factions to fit into two camps
>night elves
Should be own faction, are geographically isolated and culturally unmoored from human factions
>forsaken
Undead abominations, have nothing to do with orcs whatsoever, have their own agenda in any case, and are similarly geographically isolated
>blood elves
Isolated and culturally distinct. Should do their own thing. Was a successful attempt at bolstering horde numbers
>pandas
>death knights
Blizzard started slipping right about here
They also wrote really cool ally factions that could conceivably join yet never did.

Thrall was the only REAL warchief they should of collapsed when he decided to fuck off.

>>714173329
ahahahaha

>>714173228
And who brought the hordeniggers in the first place?

>>714170793
>two tents
Shut
It
Down

>>714173228
Who hurt you brother
Projecting your rage and insecurities on 4chan isn't healthy

>>714173548
Vol'jin was warchief for 5 minutes, he died of cringe and named sylvanas warchief for the lulz with his dying breath

>>714169598
>pretending like shitvanas ever cared about anything but her goal of revenge
She threatened the blood elves, "I'm gonna remove all of my forsaken from quel'thalas and you'll have to do deal with the scourge yourself"

>>714173342
We can't even get rereleases untouched by culture kommissars. You just know they take sick pleasure in the desecration. Truly contemptible creatures.

>>714173510
Homo designers

>>714173548
Jailer tricked Mueh'zala into tricking Bwonsamdi into tricking Vol'jin into making Sylvanas Warchief as part of his 10 billion year grand master plan that didn't work and got him killed.

>>714173709
Da jailer of course
>>714173740
>frogposter
>absolutely braindead reddit tier "who hurt you" bullshit
Are you a woman by any chance or just a retard?

>>714170029
He is truly the most based character in WoW.

>>714173146
gottem

>>714173642
Dude had one goal and it was to make every woman stacked.

>>714173329
>>714173693
Should've renamed it Afras'Iabi

>>714173941
Yup

>>714174000
Every single comic, hey I ain't complaining

>>714173994
bayzed

>>714171327
>hey stop researching the void it's not going to end well
No
>you're literally paying through the belongings of the greatest monster in high elf history, cut it out
No
>look, we just tried letting one of you near the sunwell and void monstrosities immediately wormed their way in and almost corrupted it again. Can you please just stop
No
>ok don't go near silvermoon, we can't afford to lose the sunwell
How very dare you I am joining the alliance and murdering you for this.

>>714174000
>stacked gnomes

>>714174104
>when the fair-weather friend gets a taste of his own medicine
Love to see it.

>>714173146
>still have nazgrim yelling THRALLS BALLS
Rules for thee and not for me

>>714173028
bitch isn't like "fuck", it's a centuries old word with real meaning and it always makes sense in any setting that also has dogs.

>>714174106
Thats a man

>>714173857
Your petulant words don't mean anything to me, cope and seethe harder redditor

>>714174262
Don't act dumb on purpose it makes people think you really are dumb

>>714174286

>>714173075
>>714173642
>>714174000
>>714174072
Honestly pretty based.

>>714172646
>>714172843
God I hate that guy

>>714174104
Meh, I'm ok with the void elves because it gives narrative to the whole "Light and dark are two faces of the same coin" idea. Plus the void and shadow magics in WoW lore has always been interesting to me.

>>714174373
>Friendly reminder that (passive-aggressive threatening comment)
Why are leftists like this?

restricting player interactions based on faction was fucking stupid and opened the door for all the game's dumbest retcons

>>714174352
you basically just typed out a downvote dude, pathetic
really dunno how you even found the balls to start arguing again after the guy with the warcraft pic blew you out
i'm gonna assume you're just retardedly ESL and haven't read a single book in English in your life.

>>714173146
Son of a Bitch and Bitch are not the same. It makes no sense for Garrosh to just randomly call Sylvanas a bitch. It should have been witch.

Shadowlands.

Yep, ‘nuff said. We are NOT going back to WoW.

>>714168937 (OP)
>18+ years and alliance still seething
lmao

turtle WoW has high elves in the alliance and goblins in the horde

>>714174497
lol

>>714173028
>>714174352
>>714174498
>>714174498
retard

>>714174498
>these things that are the same are not the same because otherwise I'd have to concede I was wrong on the internet
Honestly kinda pathetic. You may wish to stop.

>>714174498
>It should have been witch
And you should have been aborted but here we are

>>714173075
>>714173642
>>714174000
>>714174072
I miss when Blizzard was a "boys club" that wasn't scared to show their female characters as "sexy". Even up to HoTs

>>714174497
I didnt reply to the guy posting a picture from a different game because I knew the retarded responses I'd get when I pointed it out. What I said is still true, blizzard removing the line was reasonable if unnecessary. It doesn't matter that much.

>>714174654
I can tell you were some retarded teen when this released and got your jollies off hearing garrosh say a naughty word you probably made this face :0

>>714174485
Because they were losers their entire life that no one listened to until in the last decade when they infiltrated media and were handed more power than they ever had or deserved. The purest examples of self-righteous petty tyrants.

>>714171196
>that new icon picture in the quest
what the fuck is wrong with her face

>>714174709
They literally are not the same. Stop trying to save face.

>>714174937
Leave him be, he's getting heated over it

>>714174812
Reforged not looking like Heros still blows my mind

>>714174485
uhm sweaty maybe try to be a nice pxrson for once. it's not difficult. if you can't behave, i'll have to give you a whack with this cute little banhammy :3

>>714174841
>a naughty word
it
means
female
dog
ESL
RETARD
It's just an extension of calling someone a dog as an insult.

>>714174937
I shall give you a chance to flounder about some more and ask you to explain in detail in what world Bitch and Son of a Bitch are not the same type of insult, and why one should exist in this here fantasy world but the other is too far.
Go ahead, I could use a good laugh.
Alternatively, stop embarrassing yourself and just accept you lost this one.

>>714174498
Calm down Danuser, you stupid bitch.

>>714175112
Google it you fucking ESL lmao Jesus Christ. Got an English dictionary handy?

>>714175181
dude why are you this mad lol

>son of a bitch makes sense as an insult
>bitch does not/is out of place
what the fuck meaning does son of a bitch have in a world where bitch isnt used as an insult
fucking spastic retarded necrophile waifufag

>>714175181
>>714175112
>Thread about Blood elves
>Devolves into autistic screeching and insults

Never change /v/

>>714174498
You are a bitch. Your mother was a bitch. They're both the same.

>>714175098
And you wouldn't use that insult in that context. Bitch is not something you say to a female subordinate when giving orders. It just doesn't work.

>>714175181
You're trying to troll now because you realized you're wrong and are embarrassed and seething.

>>714174498
>It makes no sense for Garrosh to just randomly call Sylvanas a bitch
Hadn't she just raised a bunch of corpses against their will into undeath right in-front of him?

>>714175320
Because you pretend to know English saar lol

>>714173740
Hey bloodelf queer
Lor'themar is an insecure knife ear.
https://www.wowhead.com/sound=208369/vo-100-first-arcanist-thalyssra-12-f
Play the second file and then smoke some magical crack or whatever you creatures do

>>714174812
1/2

The harpies were trying to wokescold them even a decade ago.

>>714175342
almost as if garrosh was trying to show his contempt for sylvanas
sheeee

>>714175417
Yeah so witch makes more sense
Bitch is more personal

>>714175181
forced post

>>714175581
okay you are baiting
pack it up guys

>>714175467
>Friendly banter about her husband

Holy shit cope harder, sometimes I forget people in here don't know what a healthy relationship is.

>>714175496
>>714174812
2/2

This was still when people would just laugh it off instead of sweating and apologizing.

>>714168937 (OP)
Thoughts on Blood Elf Paladins/Blood Knights?

>>714175515
Bitch doesn't show contempt, it shows a woman was mean to you or someone else

>>714168937 (OP)
>still makes no sense
WC3 alliance:
>Hello High Elves! we know the Human kingdoms didn't raise a finger to help you as our Crown Prince commanded the undead and Genocided most of you! but hey! why dontcha help us on this bloody campaign with the last few remnants of your people, we swear we will help you and not totally betray you!
The High elves were totally betrayed, Gee, I wonder what side will the formerly known high elves now renamed to blood elves to represent the genocide they endured will join? the one with Humans? the cause of their downfall?

>>714175701
Coolest paladins
It's a shame they don't have a reddish tint on their spells to represent the whole "Blood knight" bit.

>>714175625
I accept your concession

>>714175681
>le banter
Nice cope
He's an insecure idiot who also can't let go of the past
Nigga wrote a poem about kael'thas
what a queer

>>714175795
Did you even play warcraft 3 you retard?

>>714175701
>Kidnapped a god and stole its' power, utilising its' divine magic in blasphemous mockery of a human Paladin
Based
>Actually we're weawwy weawwy sowwy! Th-thwanks fwor hwelping westore our swunwell! We'll wuse light for weal now u.u
gay

>>714175898
>Obsessed with a fictional man

Projecting your insecurities anon, but yes keep trying to ragebait me when you're making shit up kek

>>714175984
>YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME!
Tranny you have to go back

>>714175701
They, and blood elves as a whole, lpst a lot of edge when they stopped be delusional , mana-crack addicts.

>>714176212
>knowing the lore
>obsessed
Wonderful cope am I also "obsessed" with Tyrande because I know that her hair used to be blue or that Sylvanas' hair used to be a different colour as well?
You're just stupid.

>>714176163
M'uru willingly let itself get siphoned by the blood elves so that they could become "True" wielder's of the light

But yeah I kinda agree with you, stealing the power to mock the humans was way cooler

>>714175321
Try speaking English as your first language and you'll understand, brownoid

>>714176303
I accept your concession, retard-kun.

>>714168937 (OP)
Horde (since WC1) has had Blood Elves twice as long as it has not had Blood Elves.

>>714176526
Wow isn't canon though

>>714175701
They were cool until they "saw the error of their ways" and started to worship the light

>>714176521
>I accept your concession
And yet you can't accept you will never be a woman? the absolute state of subhumans

>>714175496
>we're not trying to send a message, we're just making characters that look cool
I really wish the opposite hadn't become the industry norm.

>>714176502
I accept your copesneedsion, D'anuser.

>>714175701
Were coolest when they had their edge and unique abilities. Blood knights shouldn't have any hammer aesthetics.

>>714176765
>Ranjeet doesn't know that insults aren't literal and depend entirely on context
Sasuga ESL kun

>>714176587
but the calendar is dumbass

>>714175701
That tabard is too long for her, she should get a shorter one so it won't get dirty

>>714176606
>makes shit up and pretends things happened in a story that didn't actually happen
yet I'm somehow the tranny here
keep projecting

>>714176408
>You're just stupid

Man I'm not even mad at you anymore I just feel bad because of how pathetic you are.

>>714176882
>lost argument
>urr brown urr esl urr
Shit b8. Pity (You).

>>714176882
>>714176765
stop replying to each other

>>714176967
I think that's the Tier 2 set skirt but just cut open to show off her legs

>>714168937 (OP)
>We need an human like race for people who can't empathize with people who aren't "literally me"
That probably sums everything up nicely.

>>714168937 (OP)
red kissmarks on orc biceps

>>714177270
typical blood elf

>>714176972
> NOOOO YOU ARE THE TRANNY! YOU ARE THE SUNHUMAN SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!
Is this the might the Modern wow Tranny!!!

>>714176596
>control blizzard
>using some sort of magical control orb
>fire all the HR trannies in charge
>put the artists who made pic related in charge
>zone-tan rexxcraft and afrasiabi are now in charge
>???
>profit
i saved the game

For me it's lip filler Sylvanas

dead game

Hot

>>714175701

>>714169926
It's a Western theme that evil=ugly and it is bullshit.

>>714168937 (OP)
Night elves are better

>>714168937 (OP)
The alliance tried to genocide them?

Space Goatse are sexier than blood elves thoughbeit.

>>714170476
She's gonna get preggers in the next expansion.

Reminder that the very same time the fruit / painting controversy was going on, Blizzard was internally writing a quest chain where you had to go back in time and make sure that Alexstrasza remained chained up in her rape dungeon that came hilariously close to going live before someone caught it. Even when they're trying to virtue single they can't help themselves

>>714180798

>>714170029
>exist
>do something in MoP
>get new model
>...
>die in Midnight

I bet 100$ on Thalyssra going crazy over his death like Tyrande over Darkshore.

>>714170029
I'm exciting for Midnight because he's obviously going to be the main character, if he isn't then jesus christ

>>714188534
nah Faerin will be the main character

>>714175701
Funnies shit was Blood Elves being the only race who had no Warrior class in TBC.

>>714170964
The point is to take things that straight men like away for the sake of taking things that straight men like away, it is nothing more complex than that.

>>714187790
>being faithful to the "illidan is the chosen one" wind chime retard
lol
lmao even
what the fuck happened to paladins in Warcraft man

>>714185535
They even made a scene where Alexstrasza finds out about it and reacts to knowledge that the PC made sure she got raped longer than she could have.
There is no way this isn't part of some writer's barely disguised humiliation kink.

>>714189162
kek

>>714171465
too retarded to not gain even one (You), here you go

>>714189162
>>714189426
Is this really in the game?

>>714191491
It made it into PTR, but not into the live patch.

>>714170029
Lor'Themar is the realest nigga left. Everyone else is a bitchass.

>>714191654
I think he's the longest serving Horde leader at this point

>>714191653
Thats a shame

>>714173510

>>714168937 (OP)
>It's been years and Blood Elves joining the Horde over the Alliance still makes no sense
>t. didnt play warcraft 3

>>714168937 (OP)
>still makes no sense
It was a marketing move, even though many still deny it.
They wanted a "pretty" race in the Horde, Belfs were the answer.

>>714168937 (OP)
TBC belfs were fucking based and fit the horde
>enslaving a god and forcing them to give your people power
based

>2025
>no nagas
>no ogres
I would probably play retail again if it weren't infested with furries.

>>714173329
>DesMephisto
He's a tranny now

>>714172843
>this is the line that set someone off
This is why the children of Europe and the US are going to be the untouchables of the Indian diasporic supermajority. They are going to be physically overwhelmed, outmaneuvered by their cultural weakness weakness, and they are going to be set in chains and punched right in their bitch mouths if they speak or step out of line.

>>714198060
meds

oh boy another general of beaten wife wow players whining about the abusive husband they totally moved on from
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/

>>714188646
it was some fun flavor that they sadly discarded in favor of homogenization

>>714198387
You ok?

>>714197806

Please take your pink board crap to gif.

We don't want your stuff here. Kids come here.

>>714198686
are you, addict?

>>714198797
?

>>714175496
sexualized doko

>>714198243
Anon, they released a video where they laid out their plan. They haven't been covert at all. And look at who controls the tech sector, among other areas. The cultural weakness this shit embodies is going to result in a nice stomp to the ankles and a set of chains. They can smell the blood. They can smell the weakness. And they salivate.

>>714177631
She was so much cooler when she wasn't so fucking important and was just kind of an anti-hero.

>>714199227
danuser ruined her but not in the way he wants to

>>714168937 (OP)
Man

>>714169538
her feet and calves were too lust provoking

>>714202840
The old website was unfiltered kino, now it's fucking corporate soul-less garbage like everything.

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/

>>714175701
Cringe and noncanon
>appropriating judgement
Eat shit and die

>>714205253
It's pretty bad

>>714169623
>the night elves should join the faction that murdered Cenarius and is desecrating their sacred forest
Retard take.
The actual problem is that the writers made the Horde go full retard in Vanilla and keep picking fights with the night elves after Hyjal.

>>714168937 (OP)
Turtle WoW did it right with High Elves on Alliance and Goblins on Horde. Blizzard ruined the Alliance vs Horde aesthetic back in 2007.

>>714169590
they simply got them in order to get normies to play more horde. i think this is a painfully obvious fact unless youre too stupid to see otherwise

>>714202840
>non-contrapposto male belf
still hate that we cant have this

>>714171196
Wirt's third leg was not a dick joke, it was a Diablo reference.
D2 had wirt's leg, WC3 had wirt's other leg and WoW had the third leg.

The HR team combing through the files were clearly women who never played any Blizzard games.

>>714168937 (OP)
Blood Elves in the Horde make more sense than undead

i find it genuinely concerning that i share a board with so many midwits incapable of understanding why blood elves and undead are in the horde and why it makes sense

>>714212312
Yeah, I have to agree.
Instead of the Forsaken we should've had a third faction (the Scourge) with all kinds of undead.

>>714212954
Blizzard admitted that it was just to give the Horde a pretty race. You don't need to argue in favor of the ridiculous reasoning why the blood elves joined the Horde.
I'm also not arguing they should have joined the Alliance. The blood elves had already joined a faction: The Illidari.

>>714213767
>ridiculous reasoning
What's ridiculous about joining the faction closest to them, that's fighting their same enemy, and whose leader is a former high elf that died defending their homeland, as opposed to joining a race that lives half a continent away and whose last interaction with them was using them as cannon fodder after leaving them to fend for themselves.

I want Naga

The most outlandish thing is undead joining anyone. Then continuing to give the Horde and Alliance more reasons to hate them and their contributions to the world. Like what in the actual fuck do they have on Thrall/Garrosh or whoever is the fucking warchief now. They plague entire swaths of land that could be used to muster a living army, grow food and resources. They use biological weapons on both the enemy and their own men. They turn anyone they can capture into experiments or masses of writing flesh abominations and they enjoy it too. The only difference between them and The Scourge are names.

I liek blood elf

>>714212312
>>714213312
2 factions already means 2x more work.
Also nobody wants to play an ugly race. 90% of ppl choose to play an elf.

MMO suck. I want a single player RPG where I can tame a fem nelf as an Orc.

>>714214443
>lmao dude just join the faction of your thousand-year racial enemies (the trolls)
>also the faction of the dudes that tried to annihilate you a couple decades ago (the orcs)
>also the faction that includes the undead which, while freed from Arthas, just ravaged Quel'thalas
>in the process you're also going to be betraying Illidan, who you've joined up with
>and all of this involves turning your back on your allies of hundreds of years, including the Wildhammers
>also fucking over the night elves that helped you massively during the Third War
It's absolutely nonsensical. Sylvanas is not a good defense of it, because by TBC everybody knew that the Forsaken had actively started picking fights with their former countrymen. The Forsaken started the conflict with the Alliance and proved to be deranged psychos that had no connection to their past lives (and in most cases actively rejected them). It'd be like if in WW2 a single US commander guided a British regiment into a losing battle so the Brits decided to switch sides to the Axis. Except in this case the Axis include soulless zombies and inhuman cannibals that have fought the Brits for thousands of years.

And, again, I explicitly said they SHOULDN'T have joined the Alliance, either. The blood elves are Illidari, retard.

>>714218023
wtf same

>>714218831
Brother

>>714218719
b-but not all trolls, not all orcs!!
but all humans !(eventhough the humans we are angry about are the forsaken rn)!

>>714168937 (OP)
What "fits" a blood elf better lore wise? A hunter or paladin? I'm always stuck between wanting to play a farstrider or a blood knight

Felblood elves were kino, when are they coming back?

>>714168937 (OP)
The most egregious is having an undead elf as fucking Warchief of the horde. Wouldnt be surprised if Stormwind eventually gets a [Insert gimmick for a race that already exists here] troll or tauren as king.

>>714168937 (OP)
They should have just give the alliance high elf to play
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J8bRAToPaBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4GISDHFsr4
from the genius mind that gave us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK4WaIO19KE

>>714171758
Making Kael and Illidan big bads should have been a sign that WoW wasnt going to handle anything right about it's story. Not that it matters because whoever writes the story for WoW now never played The Frozen Throne because Kael's personality in Shadowlands isnothing like it is in WC3. Probably meant to be a new original character at first.

>>714221629
You mean Demon Hunters? I'd rather have Blood Orcs, which should be a thing now since we have red Draenei.

>>714222467
>You mean Demon Hunters?
No zoomer, if I meant that I would've said it

>>714222532
You are never getting your nothing, stupid quest, idiot.

the charges hordechud?

>>714222676
Damn, my post caused you to undergo pajeetification, impressive

>>714174498
Kys my man

Elves are just Trolls without the funny accents

>>714221297
Mage fits best, then hunter, then paladin. Farstriders are the longer established group, and a lot of the good hunter sets are elf themed, blood knights are cool but are pretty much fucked when it comes to thematic abilities/sets/weapons. They just get lumped in with hammers and sucking off the silver hand humans.

>>714191654
>Thrall is something but not officially leader
>Vol'jin is kill and is now Obi Wan Trollobi
>Baine became leader in Cata
>Sylvanas
>Lor'Themar officially leader in TBC or bit before it
>Garrosh is kill
>That one panda dude who almost got executed by Gary
Dunno what happened to him. Last I remember he left with the alliance panda girl or something.
>Saurfang is kill
>Arthas' has a sister and shows up in BFA to take over forsaken
>Think they just killed/replaced the fat jew goblin whats his name, I dont fuckin know but he came in Cata

pretty much stopped paying much attention to the lore after shadowlands but yeah I think your're right.
Good on Lor'Themar and his bench flipping ways.

>>714221629
I doubt they're going to get a model update and become playable at this point, I'd say it would make no sense lorewise but this is the era of manari eredar just hanging around stormwind

>>714223993
but imagine all the goth lovers who'd buy the game just for them

>>714223028
agp

>>714223908
Panda dude is still hanging around doing nothing, latest he was seen was BFA, where he spent the whole expansion on the mast of the boat.

>>714223028
Thats a my fucking wife

>>714169564
>didn't the alliance imprison their entire race and put them up for execution
Just their crown prince and the nobility. The Elves were still present in the undead campaign which takes place after Kael betrays the Alliance.

>>714223908
>Baine
Bane is my favourite Alliance leader

>>714170371
High Elves tends to refer to the commoner elves of Qul'Thelas which made up the Ranger units in Warcraft 2 and 3. Basically the only elves not cracked out of their mind on Fel Meth.

>>714173368
Monster girl dreams allows you to cast a spell to arouse roaming packs of elf rapists.

Did OP forgot how Garithos treated the elves???

>>714170968
Why can we trace the collapse of society 1:1 with how gay its gotten?

>>714168937 (OP)
I want to play a blood elf blood mage in tbc but I'm never sure if I should do it as a mage (flamestrike, mage in the name) or warlock (banish, mana drain, demonic fire)

>>714170536
Forsaken was utterly kino

>>714226248
>how gay it's gotten
And woke too.

>>714226135
So one racist invalidates the endless wars with trolls and getting your lands ravaged by undead.

>>714168937 (OP)
games back then cared very little about the story or lore. story being important is a recent thing

>>714170536
Forsaken being allies with blood elves doesn't sit right with me

>"What a stupid boy I was"
They're never subtle, are they?

>>714226612
>>714226372

I wish female neflies were real so they can reverse mating press me

>>714173075
Kind of sucks now that when you do get hot chicks in games, it's clearly just as performative. When can we go back to the perfect days when men put hot stuff in their game because they've been denied the touch of a woman for months trying to get the game to ship?

>>714170793
My absolute favorite censorship I never see anyone talk about is when they censored Jaina's cleavage in Hearthstone

>>714173146
>Sylvanas is a bitch
>Arthas is a son of a bitch
>Windrunner women crave human cock.
>ergo Arthas is Sylvanas' son, I am very smart.

>>714226852

>>714173886
Fuck that Draenei is hot.

>>714174000
What happened to that distinct Western Art style that wasn't troon art? It's like every artist collectively died.

>>714174286
>Become trans
>Encourage rape of terfs
>Kill yourself
Honestly? Based.

>>714227064
For me it's Pyrista

>>714175701
>06
It's almost like hot chicks has become a lost art.

>>714226396
Silvermoon was raided by the scourge, not forsaken
Garithos was still an ass to Kaelthas, who was the leader of the blood elves

>>714227150
Probably all got "cancelled"

>>714227453
Yeah and Garithos was a grand marshal of Lordaeron not the Alliance.

>>714227150
wasn't turned into is, does that answer things?

>>714223028
>Make evil racist, theocratic, genocidal faction
>Everyone wants to fuck its leader
explain.

>>714173228
>hordeniggers kill cenarius
>but don't worry he came back later just fine

come on

>>714226372
Anon I dislike redundancy.

>>714169590
>>714169947
It is literally, entirely this >>714210912
Players disproportionately preferred playing alliance. especially in chinese servers.

Now blood elves make up nearly half of the entire horde playerbase.

>>714228082
So he didn't come back just fine?

>>714227635
Lordaeron was part of the alliance. The capital, actually

>>714226372
I miss the tramtroll
now all we have is the trans troll

>>714228041
The Scarlets are neither evil nor genocidal, they are not a theocracy, Whitemane is not their leader and racism is a good thing in the setting.

>>714228336
he literally did, he was resurrected from the emerald dream.

Troll or Orc Shaman in MoP?
is Shaman or Druid Resto more fun? They both seem neat but I think I prefer the aesthetics of Shaman. I already have an orc shaman at level 20 but I kinda prefer Troll. They funny.

>>714228548
Exactly

>>714174498
>Son of a Bitch and Bitch are not the same
IT IS LITERALLY THE SAME
A SON OF A BITCH IS A "SON" OF A "BITCH"
WHAT DERANGED TRANNY SCHIZO LOGIC AM I FUCKING READING

>>714228870
It's been over half a day mate, he's long gone.

>>714168937 (OP)
Raider fags ruined wow

Chadriothos was right
Kael was a HECKIN evil chud and was rightfully put down

>>714229014
Classic Andies are a whole nother level of retarded.

>>714168937 (OP)
>Kingdom of Lordaeron raped to death
>Lordaeron Remnants use your nearly wiped out kin as fodder
>Stormwind comes in a colonizes what's left of Lordaeron that didnt get raped to death
>your former Ranger-General gives you a formal invitation to join the "Horde"
>the ooga booga forest trolls that fucked with you aren't even part of the "Horde" anymore anyways

yeah nah it totally doesnt make sense no

>>714187790
Who is this Turalyon anyway, you mean Alleria's partner who do 99% of the work while he watches?

>>714229014
this is accurate except for the Draenei hate.
TBC Draenei are Metzen's idea. No one forced him to retcon them. They're based anyways fuck you.

>>714229121
was there ever a lore reason why the forest trolls defected from the horde?

>>714229139
He's the guy that got mad at Illidan because he didn't let the light chandelier rape him

>>714229349
theyre retarded apes that eat eachother.
once the Orcs got their shit kicked in their loyalty to "the Horde" dissipated

>>714229267
>No one forced him to retcon them
I didn't play wow during tbc, can someone elaborate on the Draenei retcon?

>>714229484
>>714229349
yeah Zul'jin united all the warring forest troll tribes hoping that joining the horde would help them take back ancestral homelands from the evles, and when that didn't work out and the horde was defeated, they just fucked off and started killing eachother again

>>714168937 (OP)
How come the more advanced civilized races of azeroth keep getting fucked up by savages in mudhuts?

>forsaken "claim" to be le true lordaeron
>never rebuilt they just live in the sewers
CURIOUS

>>714229386
Warcraft Chronicle was the worst thing to ever happen to Warcraft as an IP.
>yeah, those mysterious divine forces that permeate the universe?
>The Holy Light, unequivocal moral good? The Naaru that did nothing but sacrifice themselves for the good of mortals?
>The void lords, that chaotically grow in the Nether until they devour whole worlds?
>The Shadowlands, the shrouded realm of the dead through which only a certain few mortal sages may make contact with the beloved ancestors?
>The Burning Legion, who seek to unmake the order of the universe?
>basically, they're ALL the fucking same lmao
>and theyre like MTG colors

what. the. fuck.

>>714229563
play warcraft 3 stupid

>>714229563
who fucking cares. that pic alone is all the justification needed.
fuark... muh dikk

>>714229648
Orcs are held back by the greencuck.

>>714229730
yeah I never understood that. There's still a whole ruined city above their heads and they just wanna skulk around in a bunch of slimy tunnels.
I think being undead just makes you really melodramatic in warcraft, I guess.

>>714229648
you may as well ask why the Huns fucked up the Romans. Or why the Arabs fucked up the Byzantines.
stupid question on your part. complacent civilizations are vulnerable to strong savages.

>>714188534
NIGGA MIDNIGHT IS ANOTHER ALLERIA X XAL EXPANSION
AHAHAHAHAH FUCK DEM BLOOD BITCHES

for me it's races like goblins and dwarves with guns ,rockets and warplanes somehow not dominating the setting with their insane tech advantages

>>714229730
>>714229848
The undead zones were such wasted potential in Vanilla. Post-scourge Lordaeron were some of the best missions in Warcraft 3.

>can't explore ruins of the capital full of undead and rogue wizards
>can't explore ruins of Dalaran full of various factions of beast men and escaped experiments and undead wizards vying for control of the remnants of an empire

sad shit

>>714230012
>can't explore ruins of the capital full of undead and rogue wizards
my nigger you can PLAY as the undead/rogue wizards in Lordaeron.

>>714230064
I'm not talking about the forsaken you lackwit

>>714229894
The A-rabs didn't fuck up the ERE, the turkics did. A-rabs fucked up the Sassanids.

>>714170331
No thanks anytime a main character becomes Warchief they either die or the writers make them go full dumbass mode that leads to them becoming a loot pinata. Smartest thing they had him do with his character was say he was satisfied being regnent lord.

>>714229994
Lightforge Draenei can literally do orbital bombardment from their spaceship

>>714230134
I'm sorry you don't like cool shit.

>>714229349
Losing a world war does that.

>>714230192
>actually they ran out of fuel and ammunition so no, it cant nuke the horde
blizzard sucks monkey balls

>>714230192
I think WoW post Chronicle can kill itself.
When I saw that fucking "light dreadlord" I thought
>damn, nice, the Burning Legion is masquerading as "the Army of the Light"
>this should make for some cool intrigue
couldnt fucking believe they played that retarded bullshit straight. what a fucking lore-raping asspull.

>>714170964
I just don't fathom what cause these types of people to latch onto WOW so never seen or hear of other MMOs that suffered such a neutering.

>>714230225
>a bunch of empty zones with shitty terraining and turd brown/vomit green aesthetics is cool shit
>a hole in the ground you cant access is cool shit

>>714168937 (OP)
>it's explained in WC3:FT why the blood elves separated from the Alliance
>Horde needed a "pretty" faction
Makes sense to me.

>>714230307
>couldnt fucking believe they played that retarded bullshit straight.
they retconned it again in shadowlands, he was working for the jailer kek

>>714229121
>Hey we should join a faction to help advance our people's interests and defend against new threats
>Maybe the Alliance? You know those Humans we have been working with and allied alongside ever since they literally began to exist as a race
>The one's we fought alongside against the forest troll niggers so much that we even taught them how to do magic so they could help us genocide more trolls faster
>The one's we have fought together with so we could defend our world from multiple invasion attempts by demonic orc niggers
>The one's who we also fought alongside with against the undead scourge that literally lead our race to near extinction

>Or do we join the faction made up of the demonic orc niggers we fought against in the past
>The cousins of the forest troll niggers we have been fighting against since founding our nation
>The undead who say they are totally free from the Lich king but are still the exact same ones who slaughtered us to near extinction just in the last decade or so.
>The cow people who smell like manure

>Well a random Human general was mean to our prince who may or may not betray us in the future. So fuck those people and the centuries of co-operation we had
>lets join the mudhut niggers we have been fighting against our entire existence who are also working with the living corpses that almost exterminated our race in the last few years instead.

Yeah it totally makes sense anon.

>>714230347
>separating from the alliance means joining the horde

>>714230331
are you upset that you had to play in a spooky forest?
are you really this much of a faggot?

>>714230347
>makes sense to me the BElves would ally with the very faction that predominantly consists of the people who basically yesterday wanted to wipe them out for their forest troll buddies rather than their historic allies because one human was mostly justifiedly prejudiced against them that one time
Yeah makes perfect sense. To a crack addict. Guess turning to fel magic did a real number on the BElves reasoning skills.

>>714172817
based chinamen
horde were dei wokeslop before it became a thing

>>714230307
Apparently in Shadowlands there was something about the Nathrezim "infiltrating the light" and other cosmic things. So he is probably a deep cover agent

>>714171758
Fact Kael'thas wasn't around to see The Lich King's demise was a even great piss on his character Arthas won Jania, then lost her who he loved, massacred his people killed his father, and corrupted the thing that powered his race while also leaving a scar on the land that will never heal yet they wrote him so terribly in BC only thing he could be given was a swift death also his OG VA getting me too'd.

>>714230384
>You know those Humans we have been working with and allied alongside ever since they literally began to exist as a race
the Elves never had a benevolent feeling towards humanity. It was always an alliance of convenience. At best you had some Elves that felt strongly about the Light or whatever - a shared religion. Sort of.

>The cousins of the forest troll niggers we have been fighting against since founding our nation
The Elves more than anyone would realize that the Troll tribes are thousands upon thousands of years removed.
Anyways the High Elves don't "like" anyone but themselves, for the most part. It's sort of their racial identity. They're not like, sadistic or genocidal, but they are pragmatists firstly.

>>714230502
>spooky forest?
That's literally all there is. It's an empty shit hole with nothing to do. I already explained what was wrong with it. Sorry that you're such a vacuous fanboy you must defend everything mindlessly.

>>714230653
it's not real. it doesn't exist. Illidan somehow beat Sargeras or whatever the fuck and now the story is over forever.

>>714209671
>Grom is dead
>Thrall and his boys bled for the night elves on Hyjal
>horde as of wc3 didn't practice arcane whatsoever while the alliance does and always has.
>Tauren practice druidism while no alliance race does
>Horde is closer geographically providing greater support for battles against the Satyr and Naga
>but it makes sense for the night elves to ally a kingdom that is ruled by a child

>>714172646
game has blood, gore if I'd even call that, undead eating corpses hell the player undead can eat corpses even drinking alcohol but "bitch" said once is too much.

>>714230742
>It's an empty shit hole with nothing to do
what is it lacking?

>>714229563
Draenei were buttfuck ugly monster men that Illidan used to take Draenor from the orcs and demons.
In Wow it was retcon'd that Draenei are actually Eredar (Archimond looking mofos) that aren't evil and are really hot then we got decades of horedick futa porn.

>>714230709
It will never not be funny to me to see high/blood elves cry about being abandoned to fend for themselves when they literally did that TWICE to the Alliance. And then in WoW tried to do it to the Horde, too.

>>714230808
>>Tauren practice druidism while no alliance race does
They didn't, this was just put into the game for balance

>>714229819
>fuark... muh dikk
Yes, but more importantly HER dick.

>>714230854
I told you already

>>714230892
>It will never not be funny to me to see high/blood elves cry about being abandoned to fend for themselves when they literally did that TWICE to the Alliance
The alliance owes a debt to everyone for spawning Arthas and Kel'thuzad and Medivh
The humans literally did everything wrong

>>714230192
>Let's just do the protoss again.

>>714230808
>Grom is dead
I like how you say that as if it's an argument. Nigga killed Cenarius, and he didn't do it alone either. Why in the everloving fuck would the NElves want anything to do with these creatures?

>>714231105
Because Cenarius is fine now. He could have come back from the emerald dream whenever he wanted

>>714231105
>Why in the everloving fuck would the NElves want anything to do with these creatures?
Because they understand that they were corrupted by the demons and that Thrall and the rest of them aren't like that because they literally help them save the world

do you people just play half the game or some shit

>>714230708
>OG VA getting me too'd
Dude was even proven innocent, they still got rid of all his voice lines in all Blizzard games though

>>714168937 (OP)
Elves join the faction with their last Ranger General. It makes perfect sense

>>714231178
>Because they understand that they were corrupted by the demons
retard, they drank demon blood voluntarily so they could kill cenarius

>>714171518
It's fine. Night Elves were an egregious retcon race anyway

As an aside: if the writing were consistent, then I can't imagine any example of racial hatred in WC being as intense as how much Night Elves would HATE Blood Elves.
Night Elves couldn't be Alliance if Blood Elves were.

>>714231063
>Arthas
No Orcs, no Ner'zhul, no Scourge, no Arthas. Dismissed.
>Kel'tuzad
See above, dismissed.
>Medivh
Highborne aka High Elves fault. They attracted the Legion to Azeroth, AND they taught magic to humans without actually warning them why it might be a bad thing and attract demons, directly leading to Sargeras finding his was back to Azeroth and taking over Medivh and WOULDNT YOU KNOW IT lead the Horde to Azeroth leading to the former two issues. Dismissed.

>>714231276
some of them (now dead) did, but not all and now they are cured of the curse

>>714231149
>now
Irrelevant since he wasnt by the time WoW first came out.

>>714231396
>inb4 the Night Elves helped the Blood Elves in TFT
That's before they realized they were going to suck up demon juice 24/7

>>714231469
>orcs are too weak to kill cenarius
>demon shows up and offers them his blood so they can kill cenarius
>orcs accept and proceed to murder cenarius
>you, a retard, "you cant blame them! they were under the influence of demon blood"
kys

>>714171518
>Hey man how've you been, long time no see!
this is before the Blood Elves came down with a severe fentanyl addiction.
it was immediately after their main point of contention (The Sunwell) was sploded. The NElves probably both took pity on their cousins and thought for a moment there would be hope they could return to the treehugging fold.

>>714231396
Indeed, practicing arcane magic was punishable by death in night elf society during vanilla.
Then they gave them night elf mages. Even later on fucking night elf warlocks

>>714231586
they were already under the influence of demon blood

>>714231178
>Because they understand that they were corrupted by the demons
They knew that literally from the first meeting and it is one more reason why they hate them. The Warsong clan (which makes up a large part of Thrall's horde) willingly becoming demonic servants again makes it even worse. Aside from that, Jaina and the Alliance helped save the world too, and unlike the Orca didn't kill Cenarius, so why even bring that up.

Blood Elves and Nightborne joining the Horde makes the most sense because no one realistically would willingly suffer having to listen to Tyrande.

>>714231396
Did you not play Warcraft 3

>>714230709
>the Elves never had a benevolent feeling towards humanity. It was always an alliance of convenience. At best you had some Elves that felt strongly about the Light or whatever - a shared religion. Sort of.
So? Literal centuries of co-operation against multiple threats to both their civilizations would still lead to a degree of kinship even if the Elves viewed it as an Alliance of convivence at first. They still found enough of a friendly relationship to have Elves go with Jaina to found Theramore and establish the various high elf lodges in Alliance lands. Not to mention the various Half Elves but that's gonna invite shitposting if I bring it up any more

>The Elves more than anyone would realize that the Troll tribes are thousands upon thousands of years removed.
So the stuck up Elves who are willing to abandon actual centuries of friendship over a perceived slight by some random Human general to the point they would join a faction composed of their sworn enemies for god knows how long out of pride. Yet they are so worldly and peaceful that they understand that the Darkspear are a different tribe of trolls and that's okay?

If anything it would make more sense for them to be prideful as hell and not give a damn what tribe they are and want the Darkspear dead also. Should I mention again that the Orcs and Undead are also enemies that they have been at war with and in the case of the undead they are the literal cause of their near genocide which is in ACTUAL LIVING MEMORY FOR THEIR ENTIRE RACE?

>>714171781
>I'll have you know I can flatten steel with my thighs!

>>714230927
Yes just like they retcon Thrall being okay with logging ashenvale when he is on a first name basis with the night elf leaders and could easily create a trade deal for night elf wisp infinite lumber in return for orcish support in felwood and azshara

>>714169538
Modern gaming is so soulless

>>714231682
Do you think the Night Elves were too stupid to understand the difference between Thrall's horde and the Warsong clan (who are now redeemed anyway)

Maybe you're that dumb but details actually matter

>>714231784
I don't have any kind of clever comeback for that I just wanna stick my dick in your ass and never leave.

>>714231765
>Literal centuries of co-operation against multiple threats to both their civilizations would still lead to a degree of kinship even if the Elves viewed it as an Alliance of convivence at first
well sure. Good thing the Blood Elves allied with the same humans (Lordaeron) they'd always been allied with. Though those "humans" have seen better days.

>>714231848
>Modern
the picture on the right is from 2007, is probably older than 70% of posters here

Blood Elves shouldn't have been a faction at all, they got wiped out by Arthas in Northrend

>>714168937 (OP)
Before TBC what examples of there of Blood Elves using fel magic? We get told they are using it quite a bit, I remember a quest in darkshore mentioning it, and the blood mage tft description but I don't remember seeing much in game before tbc. Then again it has been a very long time since I played vanilla

>>714174106

>>714232023
>Before TBC what examples of there of Blood Elves using fel magic?
They literally followed a demon to Outland who convinced them to start enslaving demons

>>714231875
Do you think the Night Elves are so stupid that they'd forgive the guys who literally murdered their demigod...FOR SOME FUCKING LUMBER because Thrall said they cool now? And the Warsong weren't redeemed, they were beaten back into submission and forcibly detoxed alongside their retard leader Grom. All of them WILLINGLY drank demon blood for the express purpose of killing Cenarius, because they didn't get the message that they weren't wanted in their forest.

>>714232023
before Chronicale assraped the lore, "Fel Magic" was just regular old "Arcane" magic but used without restraint. Basically, a "good" mage would use all sorts of long-studied incantations to control the magic as it came out of the Twisting Nether.
Fel magic was just yanking that shit straight out of Hell with little regard.

He was right

>>714232126
>Do you think the Night Elves are so stupid that they'd forgive the guys who literally murdered their demigod..
Thrall didn't do that though lmao how many times do you have to be told, you're as myopic as a WoW writer

>>714168937 (OP)
What does elven tummy taste like?

>>714232038
cool hot bitch fact:
Estrogen released during puberty STUNTS the female growth spurt.
That is to say, if less estrogen were released, a woman would grow taller. The reason you have a primal lust for shortstacks is because they are the optimized female according to God's design.

>>714168937 (OP)
People forget that the Forsaken protect the living

>>714232382
kek when was this added

>>714232038
I love stacked short stacks

>>714232434
April, 2020

>>714232293
Lilac and gooseberries.

>>714232382
putress bros....

how the FUCK did the horde trust the undead after the putress incident anyway?

>>714231586
Anon did you even play the game
Mannaroth didn't offer them anything, he dumped his blood in a spring he knew the orcs would drink from
shit I haven't played the game in like 15 years and I remember this.

>>714232003
>2007
Yeah so modern gaming.

>>714233323
Thrall settled the matter with Sylvanas and then Garrosh only kept the Forsaken in the Horde during his tenure because he needed a disposable army on the Eastern Kingdoms to take land. Vol'jin was fine with Sylvanas for his off-screen tenure because the Forsaken helped with the Rebellion. Then Sylvanas had her in charge stint and finally once Sylvanas got ousted the Forsaken formed a council to avoid more issues.

>>714231665
>Even later on fucking night elf warlocks
I mean, if they are going to have Demon Hunters...

Remember that merchant in the Farstrider Enclave who wouldn't sell to non-Belves? That was cool.

>>714231928
Fantastic job not even bothering to read past the first sentence. I'll humor you though and even try and dumb it down to tard speech so you can understand.

>Elves are prideful and spiteful
>Elves fight with Humans against orcs, troll, undead
>Elves even live in Human lands, colonize new continent with Humans, practice same religion as Human like you said, even sometimes make baby with Human
>Elves almost get wiped out by the undead
>Elves not like one Human who was kind of mean during this though
>Elves need allies
>Elves somehow so prideful they hate Humans because of one person so want to kill them all now
>Elves somehow also so wise and racially tolerant they know and care about the differences between trolls
>Elves also don't mind working with undead who genocide them and killed their family and friends
>Elves just let bygones be bygones

The Elves should not be fine working with Undead because the very same undead killed them all. The Elves should not be fine working with Trolls because they have always been fighting Trolls. The Elves should not be fine working with Orcs because they have fought big wars against Orcs. If the Elves so prideful they hate Humans because of a single Human. Then they should hate all the other races even more because of their constant war with them.

So be consistent. The Elves should either join no one and get wiped off for good because of their stubbornness and pride. Or they should join the Humans because the actions of one Human cannot outweigh the actions of the other three entire races. Elves cannot be so stubborn to hate all Humans because of one that they won't join them, yet not so stubborn to be suddenly okay with Orcs, Trolls, and Undead that have done far worse to them in comparison. It's a paradox that makes no sense.

And no the undead being from Lordaeron does not matter because again. If the Elves are so prideful to hate all Humans due to one, then they should hate the very undead that killed their race.

>>714233674
Wasn't it just Trolls he wouldn't sell them to? I may be wrong

>>714228571
Orc

>>714230653
Lothrexion

>>714233743
>The Elves should not be fine working with Undead because the very same undead killed them all
You mean Sylvanas? The person who fought so hard for Silvermoon that Arthas had to hunt her down to get to the Sunwell?
She's a hero to the Elves, and has good reason to hate the Scourge just as much, if not more, than them.

>>714231586
>demon shows up and offers them his blood so they can kill cenarius

Guy had to spill his blood in their drinking water unaware to get them to drink it

>>714233763
I looked it up and you're right it's just trolls. Apparently he's still a racist chud and Blizzard hasn't changed it.

>>714234285
>Apparently he's still a racist chud and Blizzard hasn't changed it.
Based

>>714234285
>>714234484
Reminds me of that Scarlet Monastery quest a Tauren gives you but he doesn't trust undead so it isn't available for them

Doesn't have to make sense, it only happened because Asian players complained the Horde was ugly.

>>714233989
yeah the Blood Elves aren't retarded. Necromancy existed before the Undead Scourge. They'd realize that the undead being dominated aren't "themselves" and once that's undone they're back to being themselves... mostly.

>>714234619
This is true, but the idea that Blizzard was never going to add BElves as playable is stupid. And when they did, there was just no way they were going to be Alliance.

>>714211017
Apparently players in alpha didn't like the skinny blood elf males so blizz changed it to the ones we have now. The Silvermoon guards used to use the og model but I think they were updated with bfa or shadowlands

>>714234728
Yeah thousands of years of history with Humans should just be undone because one guy (who didn't even formally represent the Alliance at that point and was basically a roaming warlord in the absence of an actual Alliance high command) was rude to them

>>714234815
>TBC alpha race portraits

>>714234838
Not really undone if, like I said, they're now allied to the same humans as before... only now they're somewhat less alive.
The Alliance between them was mostly about physical borders. It was before and it still is now (as of TBC).

20 years later and Bluecels are still acting like the Alliance of Stormwind is the same thing as the Alliance of Lordaeron.
At this point the Horde's more of a successor to the Alliance of Lordaeron than Stormwind's super best friends ever was

>>714233989
>Elves are so prideful and spiteful they hate all Human because of Garithos
>Yet Elves are also so wise and tolerant they can look past the fact the undead who exterminated their race and is also working with two other historic enemies of their people they have been fighting for centuries
>Because the leader of those undead was once a hero of their race who is now just a spirit and possessed flesh puppet body. Who also helped exterminate them while under the Lich Kings control
>Yet the prideful and spiteful elves are also just so wise and forgiving that they can forget all about the undead invading their lands and killing them all
>Rather than being horrified and wary of these Undead at absolute best and when it would make more sense for the race of Elves who are literally based around PRIDE AND SPITE to want to obliterate every Undead they can in "Vengeance for Quel'Thalas" which is literally a battle cry for their race
>But Sylvanas also hates the scourge so we can just trust everything she and the rest of the undead say and do because why not. Let's join the other races we have always hated also because fuck it why not

You are trying way to hard to defend a dumbfuck decision that makes no sense when even a little scrutiny is applied to it. Especially when everyone knows it was only done to try and balance factions on the chink servers as pointed out by >>714234619

Alliance are cucks lol. Get dominated so hard they had to remove PVP servers. lmao

>>714235161
>Elves are so prideful and spiteful
Prideful? Yes.
Spiteful? Not really.

>>714168937 (OP)
Playing tbc wow right now as just saw this, modern blizz would never write quest text like this

>>714235193
>Again only reads the first line

At this point either you're either retarded or just baiting. That's your last (You) from me.

Reminder that Lor'themar was talking with Varian at one point about rejoining the Alliance, they're only with the Horde out of convenience and that's always been the case.

It mad sense between WC3 and WoW but hasn't made sense since then.

>>714235384
Prior to Sylvanas somehow getting the Valkyr to make her the new Lich Queen, the Forsaken didn't raise the dead to join their ranks. The Scourge was the real threat, not the Forsaken.
You act as though Sylvanas was just like... a zombie or something, and not a calculating general/politician fully cognizant of herself.
She even sings a little diddy about the "Lament of the Highborne" in TBC. I think she was genuinely well-affectioned towards the BElves.

>>714168937 (OP)
I played wow for years wishing they're bring out cooler transmogs. I finally stop playing then they start to bring out cool transmogs like Kael'thas pauldrons/verdant spheres and warden transmogs

>>714168937 (OP)
>Alliancefags saying this when a half-blind, half-elf black lesbian dyke is about to become the leader of the alliance

>>714236137
Are you saying you don't approve of african-american blood elves?

Dark Elves do violate the lore, they moved away from the Well of Eternity and turned white over time because of the Sunwell and the enchantment they put on the top of EK to make it eternal spring

>>714168937 (OP)
Luv staffs
Simple as

>>714173510
Needs nipples.

>>714168937 (OP)
I don't mind so long as alliance have night elves

THE ETERNAL SUN GUIDES US

>>714239957
VICTORY LIES AHEAD

>>714176163
Just more hordecuckery. I blame the players that cried about being le bad guy. Only undead players ever had some balls

Porn addicts ruined all Blizzard discussion.

>>714169538
Booba

>>714171465
>Horde
>Orc
>Draeinei
Yeah that would sit well

>>714241353
BALADESH MALANORE

>>714229563
Eredar women owe me sex.
t. Human Male Warrior

>>714198752
you realize you have to be 18 to browse even blue boards, right?

>>714231784
Mating press.

>>714235835
>everyone is le epic superman with hecking legendary looking gear
yawn, bland and boring
normiecore

>>714169947
>coomfaggots, trannies
They cater to the Alliance with Night Elves and Draenei who are the most famous futanari races in all of gaming?

>>714174286
It doesn't make sense really to be trans in a magic setting. You can turn people in to sheep, may as well magic their gender. Also hilarious that if Chromie is trans when she is in dragon form everyone dead names her lol

>>714170294
Where do you live where the women look like that?

>>714235835
they can make this kinda thing but yet Reforged looked like >>714234157

>>714171487
>antifa race
Antifa was a thing back in 2005?

>>714170138
so fucking lazy

>>714168937 (OP)
every single one of these threads is just salty alliance players

>>714170964
>>714171232
sexuality (blue balling beta males, cock teasing, etc.) is a resource that females want to have total control over. You can't use sexuality in a game that you sell to males if you aren't a woman. You're basically stealing their profits.
tldr: pussy cartel

>>714230192
Goblins canonically invented a knock-off of that bigass laser that works just as well called the hand of gob

The Incubus is still the best thing added to WoW in years.

>>714232023
There were the shendralar in dire maul who were draining a demon for magic, but I think they were more old style highborn.

>>714233989
Okay so the entire reason they joined the Horde is because they were bitter about some humans from lordaeron (the very same humans that saved their race in the second war) that are now forsaken?

>Humans (from lordaeron) are le evil racist!
>But when they turn undead they are our bff!
>For da Horde btw! (let's embrace orcish culture eventhough those orcs tried to exterminate us and that we are a proud xenophobic race)

>>714251217
The human general who commanded them in Frozen Throne hated non-humans and used the elves as cannon fodder and sacrificial lambs while keeping his own troops out of the fight so the elves would get slaughtered. When the elves asked the naga for help to not be genocided the general declared them all traitors and tried to exterminate them himself.

>>714251384
You didn't answer my question

>>714251562
They joined the Horde because of that guy, yes.

>>714251650
So they are just insanely stupid and later betrayed the Naga that actually helped them. K, got it.

>>714169538
>stronkgrrlbaws model
getting rid of all wokoid trash will take decades

>>714239503
right is mine, and we will have many children
t. white man

>>714175693
>>714175496
He handled the grilling pretty well. But if I remember right, after this interview Activision had a team of PR suits come out, apologize for his "grossly inappropriate" conduct, and vow to change.
Probably the beginning of the end for Blizzard.

>>714250835
feggit

>>714198387
I'm sorry, but the thread reached the bump limit
:(

>>714168937 (OP)
Arthas was human and he broke the Sunwell so idk maybe they held a grudge against humans.

>>714169538
Because the blue haired woke retards at Blizzard got offended by the thought that a female character was somehow submissive or some other retarded woke bullshit.

>>714249494
>le
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