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Anonymous No.714194048 >>714196005 >>714197501 >>714198002 >>714198870 >>714200434 >>714201750 >>714202212 >>714212762 >>714225932 >>714235332 >>714258349 >>714267276 >>714271685 >>714276449
Rivals of Aether 2
she's in

patch notes: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2217000/view/535480083734856933
Anonymous No.714194103
better girls
Anonymous No.714195160 >>714195480 >>714199648
haven't played her yet but i have not lost to a single one that i've encountered on ranked. she seems really fun to play and fun to figure out how to fight but i'm not fond of how they've added yet another stomp knee to the game.
Anonymous No.714195295 >>714195747 >>714197274 >>714215548
is this game worth $20?
Anonymous No.714195480
>>714195160
Well, Absa's spike was pretty good in RoA1 so I guess they wanted to keep the character's identity / kit intact.
Anonymous No.714195747
>>714195295
Yes. That doesn't mean you'll like it, I'm just saying it's objectively worth its price, whether it's on sale or not. It's the most consumer-friendly fighting game, period.
Anonymous No.714195947
>hiding an unfinished stage in the patch notes
Sneaky cunts
Anonymous No.714196005 >>714196672 >>714196679 >>714199781
>>714194048 (OP)
>No single player modes
>No fun custom game modes
>Every stage must be tourney viable
>No Items
>FOMO skin shop and battle passes

I'm sorry. Im afraid I will not play this. Cute anthros though.
Anonymous No.714196672 >>714196901 >>714267689
>>714196005
the shop is not FOMO in the slightest. all the battle passes can be revisited forever, no matter when you start the game.
the game is lacking a bit on the casual front, sure but i'd say at this point it's definitely worth its price tag for a competitive fighting game.
>arcade mode and break the targets
>fun minigames for practicing edgeguarding and positioning
>comprehensive training mode with save states and input recording/playback
>rollback netcode with active ranked queue
>free DLC characters and future updates forever
if you're casual only you don't need to buy it right now, but it is a very solid package right now, all things considered.
Anonymous No.714196679 >>714197403
>>714196005
>singeplayer content
>silly stages
It has arcade mode and mini-games (break the targets, training mini-games). Come back in a year, the game's in early access.
>FOMO
There is no FOMO and the developers are actively anti-FOMO. You can switch to any monthly event at any time, and the events give you tons of currency to spend on whatever skins you actually want. I have so much currency just from playing the game that I'm just buying stuff to buy stuff at this point. I think the only thing that's time-limited is tournament-related cosmetics, which you don't give a shit about obviously.
Anonymous No.714196901 >>714198443 >>714198676 >>714202972 >>714215760
>>714196672
>competitive fighting game
>competitive
not interested, have fun sweating though
Anonymous No.714197274 >>714209191
>>714195295
Yeah assuming you plan to play the multiplayer and can handle losing
Anonymous No.714197403 >>714198016 >>714198539 >>714198562
>>714196679
>only thing that's time-limited is tournament-related cosmetics, which you don't give a shit about obviously.

So they do have timed skins that the masses can not aquire anymore, and for the top percentage players too! Curious how you deny there is none, but then state there is!
Anonymous No.714197501
>>714194048 (OP)
Not sending any money Maldavius' way.
Anonymous No.714198002 >>714198754
>>714194048 (OP)
>Slight buff on Oly's down-smash
I'll take it. Still feels really weak compared to her other Smash Attacks, though.
Anonymous No.714198016
>>714197403
the distribution of the tournament skins aren't handled by the devs of the game, the TOs themselves are the ones that choose how to distribute them because the revenue for those skins goes to them. despite that, the devs have expressed that they're working to find a way to make them available in-game, without discouraging people from purchasing them to support prize pools and such.
Anonymous No.714198443 >>714198754
>>714196901
that's your call to make and I respect that. o7
maybe come back in a year or two, when the devs come around to adding more casual game modes. in-game tutorials are another big one that they need to get done with imo.
Anonymous No.714198539
>>714197403
You seem like a bit of a sour cunt, my Reddit-spacing friend.
Anonymous No.714198562
>>714197403
>Being this petty.

NTA, but if you're unwilling to play the game because you can't use the CEO Kragg skin or somethin', then you clearly weren't interested to begin with, and just want to complain for the sake of it.
People like you can never be satisfied, and the devs are best off ignoring.
Anonymous No.714198676 >>714205481
>>714196901
>"Why don't Ultimate players just play Rivals? Is there not enough input delay for them?" - Plup
Anonymous No.714198754
>>714198002
I had stopped using it entirely after I saw someone fall out of it on a perfectly executed tech chase. Her strongs are already bad enough without one of them being bugged. Glad they fixed it.

>>714198443
They're fucking trolling with the tutorials, 100%. People need to get on their asses about that shit.
Anonymous No.714198870
>>714194048 (OP)
Got my ass kicked online for about an hour. Great to have her back, along with her explosive storm clouds and kicks.
Anonymous No.714199203
I heard the multiplayer is dead on EU, is it true?
Anonymous No.714199306 >>714209191
goat
Anonymous No.714199475
>absa ftilt 2
new n00b filter just dropped
Anonymous No.714199648
>>714195160
Absa's confirms are about as egregious as every other character's, this game is full of stomp knees
Anonymous No.714199781
>>714196005
>No single player modes
stopped reading here, go play smash bros brawl then faggot
Anonymous No.714200434 >>714201397
>>714194048 (OP)
Labbed her for a bit. Ftilt 1 leads into some good things, probably her best combo starter. Double jump cancels I am used to from Mewtwo but they seem a little tricky because of the aerial hitboxes. Offstage play might be good. Playing Olympia after her is like going from Brawl to Melee though.
Anonymous No.714200515 >>714201147
>absa can double jump downward once for free if she still has her double jump
>can still double jump after
that's fucking weird as hell. except for her meh air speed, i feel like she's well-suited to bullying people off-stage, which i like.
Anonymous No.714201147 >>714201232
>>714200515
It's called gravity jumping
Anonymous No.714201232
>>714201147
i see, i didn't play roa1 so it's new to me.
Anonymous No.714201397
>>714200434
I enjoy playing Ness in 64/Melee/PM, but Zelda sweetspots on a djc character filter me hard.
Anonymous No.714201656
post the fox paws
Anonymous No.714201720
SEXO CABRA
Anonymous No.714201750
>>714194048 (OP)
>Spats

perfect design RUINED
Anonymous No.714202212 >>714202561
>>714194048 (OP)
>draw a femboy
>call it a girl
Anonymous No.714202561 >>714202724 >>714264921
>>714202212
>draw a girl
>see a boy
I think it's a you problem, faggot
Anonymous No.714202724
>>714202561
cope
Anonymous No.714202972
>>714196901
>wah I don't want to put in any effort or try, I just want to le have le fun
yes, go back to smash, babby
Anonymous No.714203142 >>714207718
Well, at least I finally used some of my saved Vbucks for a skin.
Anonymous No.714203252 >>714203453 >>714203874 >>714207747
Femaleslop is fucking boring.
I want badass fighters, not troon bait.
Anonymous No.714203453
>>714203252
i'm pretty sure the people behind battleborn, lawbreakers and every other failed multiplayer arena game said the same thing
Anonymous No.714203874
>>714203252
We already got that with getting Ice bear for a fighter first. Besides, I'm sure Sylvanos sooner rather than later simply because he was seen in Absa's trailer and the other 3 tribes are still behind fire by 1.
Anonymous No.714205481
>>714198676
based plup
Anonymous No.714207718
>>714203142
>outlines
Ew
Anonymous No.714207747
>>714203252
Anon they added like 7 pride flags last update
Anonymous No.714208027 >>714208474 >>714208564 >>714209420 >>714209932
are you ready?
Anonymous No.714208474
>>714208027
I love this move like you wouldn't believe. It's annoying, but I love it since it causes the person on the other end to be mad asf when they get hit by it more than once.
Anonymous No.714208564 >>714209420 >>714209932 >>714216770
>>714208027
why is this allowed
Anonymous No.714209191
>>714197274
>>714199306
I want to shove my face in there
Anonymous No.714209420
>>714208027
i love my laser beam pew pew

>>714208564
because if you parry it you get enough time to cross the stage and fstrong her
Anonymous No.714209468 >>714210197 >>714210470
They changed FFA so it's time based instead of stocks.
I guess that's fine.
Anonymous No.714209932 >>714210197
>>714208027
ngl, I spam the shit out of this thing

>>714208564
because it's fun
Anonymous No.714210197
>>714209932
that's a fucking hilarious hitbox

>>714209468
good. people will bitch about it being dead because it's not stocks, but that's a false attribution. it's dead because there aren't enough players queuing for it because it was broken. 1 player leaving would brick the lobby, and 1 player would always leave because they'd be stuck watching some absolute faggot trying way too hard to win when there's only 2 players left.
Anonymous No.714210420 >>714217921 >>714245453 >>714271685
PSA: rivals 2 has a general on /vm/
>>>/vm/1832603
i'm not able to play for a week or so, but when i can i'm willing to play friendlies with whomever
Anonymous No.714210470
>>714209468
I commented on that a month ago >>>/vm/1755943
Anonymous No.714210526 >>714210608 >>714210654
Link the new nolt site
Anonymous No.714210608 >>714214074
>>714210526
use this link, it will redirect you to the latest one
https://rivals2.com/nolt
Anonymous No.714210654
>>714210526
https://rivals-of-aether-ii-patch-130-feedback.nolt.io/
Anonymous No.714212762
>>714194048 (OP)
gote sexo
Anonymous No.714212931 >>714214074 >>714214709
How the fuck do I fight against this character
Anonymous No.714214074
>>714212931
Go to >>714210608 and demand that they nerf her
Anonymous No.714214709
>>714212931
Tell them to remove the shorts while you're at it.
Anonymous No.714215548
>>714195295
maybe
Anonymous No.714215760 >>714216014
>>714196901
nta, but what's the issue with a game being competitive?
I always fail to understand casual who avoid competitive games, especially for versus ones. A game being designed for competition just means that it have more depth the more you play, it doesn't mean it isn't fun before you reach that depth
Anonymous No.714216014 >>714217369 >>714219274 >>714221509 >>714222086
>>714215760
wrong. it just means that sweaty tryhards will suck all the fun out of the game for normal people. smash and mario kart are prime examples of this. the only solution is to filter out compfags at the mechanical level, so the game's fair for everyone.
Anonymous No.714216265 >>714216393 >>714216529
Come fite me, lobby code jk9jh1
I'm new to the game and bought it on a whim during steam sales, didn't knew about absa releasing but will main the fuck out of her
Anonymous No.714216312 >>714216529
can't wait until they put Eliana back in, I need my obnoxious steam clouds and rocket punches
Anonymous No.714216393 >>714216454
>>714216265
FFA lobby?
Anonymous No.714216454 >>714217409
>>714216393
i have no clue if ffa lobbies are different? would rather 1v1 or 2v2
Anonymous No.714216529
>>714216265
i would but i can't play the game above 10 fps on my laptop...

>>714216312
probs next year. i expect an original character next, which i'm down with. like the roa1 cast is great, but i crave something new.
Anonymous No.714216770 >>714217415
>>714208564
it has little hitstun, and you can parry + crouchcancel it to completely negate it. its not that good
Anonymous No.714217369
New lobby yjeqzv, sorry did not say i was eu when posting the code

>>714216014
>tryhards will suck all the fun out of the game for normal people
what is the fun in not tryharding? i'm genuinely asking
Anonymous No.714217409 >>714217619
>>714216454
I'm down for FFA or Doubles.
I'm ass so I'm not good at 1v1s
Anonymous No.714217415 >>714217676
>>714216770
hard to connect it as a follow-up outside of really low percentages, I'm finding. Also comes out kinda slow
Anonymous No.714217619
>>714217409
>I'm ass so I'm not good at 1v1s
Well I'm far from good also since both a beginner at R2 + playing a char that just got released; but 1v1 is still fun even when bad.
If one or the other ends up mogging the other, still a learning experience (and we can give advices/comments in thread)
Anonymous No.714217676 >>714218012
>>714217415
ftilt 1 is pretty much ten times better
for roa1 at least, i dont play 2
Anonymous No.714217921
>>714210420
Why she haet cloud?
Anonymous No.714218012
>>714217676
It's pretty similar
Anonymous No.714218171 >>714220337 >>714262359
why is she so sluggish
fuck this game dawg
also not letting her act out of throw with cloud pop like princess remedy was a missed opportunity
Anonymous No.714218624 >>714218919
is Penguin still playing? i wanna see him shmoove on absa
Anonymous No.714218919
>>714218624
>him
Anon, I...
Anonymous No.714219274 >>714220918
>>714216014
>sweaty tryhards will suck all the fun out of the game
It's fun to try to win because it is really challenging.
Anonymous No.714219805 >>714220064 >>714221127 >>714221230
Man, I just got this game and went into ranked - it's kinda brutal out there. Just got 3 stocked 4 times in a row by other unranked players who never let me touch the ground. Figured I'd at least run into someone at a beginner skill level.
Anonymous No.714220064 >>714220183 >>714220513
>>714219805
See it as an opportunity to learn how to DI better. If you're getting combo'd in the same way multiple times, try to pay attention to what attack sequences are occurring and how you can make it harder for him to hit you.
Anonymous No.714220183 >>714220276 >>714221317
>>714220064
No. I like to smash buttons.
Anonymous No.714220276
>>714220183
That's perfectly valid too, but shit won't work against decent players.
Anonymous No.714220337 >>714261684
>>714218171
she would be SSS tier untouchable if she could do that
Anonymous No.714220513 >>714220951
>>714220064
Sure, but it seemed like everything I was getting hit with didn't give me a chance to DI out far enough. They followed up so quickly, and once I got to a high enough percentage for them not to chase me down immediately, they perfectly baited out everything I chose out of wakeup, even when I tried mixing up my choices. I'm using Clairen if that provides any useful context. Maybe just fighting computers is more my speed I don't know
Anonymous No.714220623 >>714220818
>she
>topless
>chest fur

What did my penis mean by this?
Anonymous No.714220818
>>714220623
>man chest
>man shoulders
>only resembles a female in the face (kinda) and the bottom half
Theres a chance you aren't straight
Anonymous No.714220918
>>714219274
Nah, I'd rather just give up the second I encounter any resistance and then let the fear of losing in a video game live rent free in my head forever
Anonymous No.714220951 >>714221248
>>714220513
You won't always be able to escape out of a follow-up, but you will always be able to make it harder for them, which is important.
You're not going to be able to react to every hit either, so your DI will have to be preemptive sometimes and if they catch onto your DI habits, they will change up the way they combo you to trick you into DI'ing poorly.
If you are getting consistently, perfectly baited with your wake-up options, you are not mixing them up very well. You can try some new ideas, or try doing the same thing you are doing, but at different timings.
If this is not enjoyable for you, that is also okay. Not everyone will like playing ranked and there is really no point in forcing yourself to play something you don't like, but I do think giving it a fair shot is a good idea.
Anonymous No.714221127 >>714221547
>>714219805
it's start of new rank so everyone is starting at unranked again, give it a few days or go into non ranked matches
Anonymous No.714221180 >>714221236 >>714221479 >>714227003
If I can't just play a game and be able to understand it without getting slammed in the face by my first opponent, then I'm not playing a game but a bully simulator.

This is what the game is.
Anonymous No.714221230 >>714221547
>>714219805
I believe ranks reset because it's the end of the season, so those unranked players are just people picking up their 4 wins to get back to an appropriate rank. Or people who are returning for other reasons. Unfortunately you kind of need to get your 4 wins to get out of unranked hell.

They should probably decouple ranked seasons and events that are going to bring people back to the game.
Anonymous No.714221236
>>714221180
>Hit opponent off the stage
>This is too hard to understand
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Anonymous No.714221248 >>714221767
>>714220951
Yeah, I just got hit with another couple of 3 stocks. Shame you actually have to win games to be placed, I was hoping they'd at least have the game put me in a retard baby playpen tier after getting rinsed so much
Anonymous No.714221317
>>714220183
I've met platinum players who got there by doing nothing but mashing, mostly Zetters
Anonymous No.714221462 >>714221830 >>714221873 >>714222002
why does every orcane play like a massive faggot?
Anonymous No.714221479
>>714221180
Learn how to play. Or play singleplayer content until you're confident enough.
Anonymous No.714221509
>>714216014
Ive got the perfect game for you lil bro
Anonymous No.714221547
>>714221127
>>714221230
Okay, well that does make me feel even the slightest bit better to know that I may have been thrown into the gorilla enclosure
Anonymous No.714221663
Hooves...
Anonymous No.714221767 >>714222132
>>714221248
They need to tweak the system at some point
>4 wins to get out of unranked hell
>no real tutorials
Game's designed to filter people. That said, every time someone posts a replay when asking for advice, I inevitably see them later (whether online or in-game) much improved.
Anonymous No.714221830
>>714221462
Character has no identity. Or he can have one, but they're not good enough to tap into it.
Anonymous No.714221873
>>714221462
lol mad
Anonymous No.714221928 >>714221986 >>714222069 >>714222095 >>714222148 >>714222179 >>714222214 >>714222267
>Buy the game
>Play single player
>Can't use new character because I have to have an Aether Account to access the shop and pay $15 on top of the $20 I just paid to get her
>Play the rat-dog looking thing that was available from the weekly free fighter rotation
>Pressing up on my stick does not make me jump
>Pressing a button does instead
>Why
>Use an ability as the rat-dog
>It launches me off of the stage.
>Hit the ""jump"" button
>It launches me away from the edge to the kill edge
>Lose 4 lives like this on the Easy Bot

What the FUCK is this game?
Anonymous No.714221986
>>714221928
>tap jump
shitter detected
Anonymous No.714222002 >>714222293
>>714221462
>ranked
>win game 1 against orcane
>have to ban other states because of my character
>fire capital
>they run away and camp behind puddle, then drink their own piss
>they lose game 3
Every time
Anonymous No.714222031
I did unranked and played some Absa dittos except I lost every game, which is okay because it's not tied to rank but damn, hitting Absa is going to need some more practice
Anonymous No.714222069
>>714221928
What the actual fuck are you talking about, none of this is real. Are you drunk?
Anonymous No.714222086
>>714216014
>I'm bad and don't want to put in the time
We know
Anonymous No.714222095
>>714221928
holy disinformation
why this game makes you so angry?
Anonymous No.714222132
>>714221767
It's a shame because I love the characters and the game feels really slick and satisfying against CPUs. Even a glue slurper like me can intuit what the characters are supposed to do and imagine what high level play looks like. Execution is just a different story.
Anonymous No.714222148
>>714221928
All characters are free and you're making shit up

But why
Anonymous No.714222179
>>714221928
Xhe does have a point.
I wanna fuck this rat dog.
Anonymous No.714222214
>>714221928
Can I offer you a goat in this trying time?
Anonymous No.714222246
Ill buy it and see if conection is good if not ill refund
Anonymous No.714222267
>>714221928
>Can't use new character because I have to have an Aether Account to access the shop and pay $15 on top of the $20 I just paid to get her
uh? character is free and shit in store is only costumes, maybe your game didn't update?
>Pressing up on my stick does not make me jump
There is an option to activate tap jump, but would strongly recommend not to use it
>It launches me away from the edge to the kill edge
You spammed jump while being sent up?

You should try to first update your game then just go into training mode with any character and try to understand the movements
Anonymous No.714222293
>>714222002
I always ban fire capital and merchant port. Those two stages are utter cancer for singles.
Anonymous No.714222501 >>714222590 >>714223558
Ill maim the Elephant, is he still the worst character in the game
Anonymous No.714222590 >>714222873 >>714223627
>>714222501
Etalus exists
also, lox was never a bottom tier
Anonymous No.714222873
>>714222590
Ill main it, and maybe the beetle
Anonymous No.714223264
>Having to wait 120s x 3+ to get an online match.
Anonymous No.714223558
>>714222501
That would be Fleet at the moment, but Lox requires a lot of patience and knowledge
Anonymous No.714223627
>>714222590
Etalus is low key good
Anonymous No.714224731
loxodont bros how do we feel about the absa matchup?
Anonymous No.714224880 >>714226735
>lose
>lose
>lose
>lose
>lose

Yeah okay. This game sucks. You all need to take a fucking shower.
Anonymous No.714225932
>>714194048 (OP)
>human men
Anonymous No.714226735
>>714224880
Diana will soon get KNOTTED
Anonymous No.714227003 >>714230232
>>714221180
You usually learn how to play by getting slammed by better players and trying to make it to their level. That's how pretty much every fighting game works, I don't know why you'd expect a platform fighter to be any different.
Actually platform fighters are probably much more strict than fighting games on new players because platform fighters are way more freeform and have a lot more player input, so there's much fewer guidelines on what you need to do to get better
Anonymous No.714229151 >>714230119
Anonymous No.714230119
>>714229151
I want to see Absa rape Ani
Anonymous No.714230232 >>714235418 >>714237732
>>714227003
Platform fighters are Smash Bros. This is a Sweat Fighter.

Smash had plenty of casual friendly game modes with bots and difficulty. this has nothing of it.
Anonymous No.714231564 >>714231786 >>714231869 >>714233038 >>714235523
>wait 30 minutes for ranked game to fight someone 4 ranks below me
>play roe
>get into a game immediately

Fitting, considering roe2 sacrificed originality to chase being a shitty smash game and it's scene is suffering for it, since smash players won't stop playing smash no matter what else you put in front of them.

It really doesn't help that this game is in early fucking access, and roe 1 is still running laps around it in terms of features. Shocking they apparently ran out of money and had to lay off a majority of the staff when there's nothing to fucking show for it.

Roe1 died so Roe2 can die. Awesome. Great while it lasted, I guess.
Anonymous No.714231786 >>714232121
>>714231564
What country do you live in
Anonymous No.714231869
>>714231564
what the fuck is roe
Anonymous No.714232121
>>714231786
America, I legit have a local scene for roe1 and no one fuckin plays 2 lol.
With no exaggeration, I have easier time finding local matches for shit like virtua fighter 3 than roe2. Shit is a corpse.
Anonymous No.714233038
>>714231564
>reddit spacing
>roe
assuming this is not fudd and you aren't a hawaiian, check the server settings to see you don't have servers turned off.
Anonymous No.714235018 >>714266458
her ledge special kinda sucks since the cloud stops moving when you try to use it.
Anonymous No.714235332
>>714194048 (OP)
I want to bad things to Absa
Anonymous No.714235418
>>714230232
So you don't want a fighting game
Anonymous No.714235523
>>714231564
>4 ranks below me
the only way you should be waiting 30 minutes in this situation is if you're fucking aetherian or something. i get matches in 10-30s all day every day at 1300 MMR.
Anonymous No.714237406
good character with a fun moveset
Anonymous No.714237637 >>714237894 >>714265252
Why is she topless
Anonymous No.714237732
>>714230232
If you want the enemies to just stand there and let you hit them, just play a beat-em-up or character action game
Anonymous No.714237894 >>714240008 >>714265037
>>714237637
why do none of the original female characters wear anything?
Anonymous No.714238871 >>714239194 >>714240520 >>714265170
>guys GUYS
>we finally added a character
>new? no no its the same character from a decade ago
why was she not base game?
Anonymous No.714239194 >>714241638
>>714238871
do you want an actual reason
Anonymous No.714240008 >>714240080
>>714237894
>why do none of the original female characters wear anything?
To make Clairen look more special since she was the first female DLC character in Rivals 1.
Anonymous No.714240080 >>714240302
>>714240008
but she's from the future
Anonymous No.714240302 >>714240481
>>714240080
your point?
Anonymous No.714240481
>>714240302
clothed female characters should have been indication that they were from the future, but now every new female character (starting with the workshop ones in 1) have clothes
Anonymous No.714240520 >>714241638
>>714238871
The more time goes on the more I question what the whole point of a sequel was. There's only 2 new original characters, and the game is mechanically worse than Rivals 1. At least games like Strive and SF6 try to spice up their rosters by bringing plenty of newcomers despite doing some things worse than their predecessors. This game offers nothing but some juryrigged smash mechanics and 3D graphics.
Anonymous No.714241638 >>714241958
>>714239194
yes, like >>714240520 said I dont really get why they even made a sequel. Majors were still running rivals 1 and it still has enough players that discord fighters that still see play would love. Why bother making a sequel that almost tanked the company to the point of laying off the people that tried to make the story mode instead of just continually updating 1?
Anonymous No.714241840 >>714242037 >>714242702
remove shield, remove grab, remove ledge, add wall jump after up-b again, remove CC, remove FH
All you had to fucking do was make rivals 1 but 3d and with skins. How did they fuck this up so bad?
Anonymous No.714241958 >>714242437
>>714241638
rivals 1 could never have done what rivals 2 already managed to accomplish, no matter how many more updates came its way. it could never have multiple 1000+ entrant wifi tournaments, a 500+ entrant genesis, and multiple 200+ entrant tournaments within a year. it could never keep a 1000+ playerbase while having no workshop, tutorial or casual modes and only providing the bare minimum for a competitive fighter. dan dreamt of esports, and for better or worse, esports is what he got.
Anonymous No.714242037 >>714242209 >>714258715
>>714241840
A lot of Rivals 1 mechanics were happy accidents because Dan couldn't be bothered to make all those animations for grabs and shields in Gamemaker. Hitfalling was also initially a bug in Rivals 1 until the community clamored enough for him to keep it in the game. The man does not know what he's doing.
Anonymous No.714242209
>>714242037
>The man does not know what he's doing.
and that is a good thing
Anonymous No.714242437 >>714243475 >>714244101 >>714244612
>>714241958
Then how come the game still feels unfinished and shitty?
Sure, Dan wants nothing but esports, but it can't be making that much considering they're already behind the yearly road map.
He got more players, but they're smash players. The only reason rivals 2 has any scene at all is because smash ultimate is a walking corpse of a competitive scene, and it still has more numbers that Rivals 2 can never touch.
When the next smash comes out, rivals 2 is going to be so fucked. Even the discord is kind of in this slump where they know the next smash will slaughter their game because it's just too much like smash now.
Instead of sticking to what made it unique, they chased a player base that infamously never stick to a game that isn't smash even when it is actually better. There's no real reason why he couldn't have gotten this esports dream while also sticking to what made rivals fun in the first game.

Not to mention, sure there's penty of online tournaments, but there's so few local scenes outside of tristate. God help you if you aren't in the US. This game is soulless.
Anonymous No.714242702
>>714241840
To the Nolt board my good sir
Anonymous No.714243475 >>714244086 >>714245264
>>714242437
missed the point entirely. rivals 2 has hit all of these major milestones *in spite* of being unfinished and killing its newcomer reach by having no tutorials.
>behind the yearly road map
they're literally perfectly on schedule? in fact im pretty sure they're ahead of schedule, everything on the roadmap has been completed besides crew battles and the obvious 4 characters and 12 events. we got training reworks, lobby reworks, controller improvements and a stage reskin which was initially a beyond feature alongside playtesting on the css and online training mode queuing.
also, the game is definitely making a fuckton. i'll admit even i underestimated how profitable skins would be, considering they're the only form of monetization the game has, but they've started hiring asset designers even though they were only looking for C++ programmers before, and they soft teased that p2p online was in the works and should be done within the year, which was previously considered as something that was completely out of scope.

if rivals 2 can do all of this while being blatantly unfinished and severely lacking in content for non-competitive players where rivals 1 couldn't for 6 years despite being an objectively more complete experience AND having the mandate of heaven (being considered "platform fighter MUGEN") what makes you think IT had any chance of surviving a new smash game?
Anonymous No.714244086
>>714243475
because it did survive a smash game, because it doesn't play like smash. Sure, there's overlap, but rivals 1 didn't play like smash bros to it's own benefit.
Again, if it has no newcomer reach, they wont stick to it when the next smash game comes out, there's no reason to. Mechanics won't matter lol. Smash always is huge despite sucking ass. Hell, it already is losing to Melee, which at least is understandable, but also ultimate which is fucking embarrassing.
Rivals 2 doesn't have anything mechanically that smash doesn't also do, and it'll have bigger tournaments with bigger payouts and sell bigger. Since, apparently, that's what matters not, being a better game that will last forever.

Fucking no one will be playing this shit outside of side tournaments at smash majors in 5 years. People will still being playing melee, smash 6, and rivals 1. Not as many as rivals 2 has now, but it will straight up degrade to nothing like how all the other smash clones end up.
Anonymous No.714244101 >>714244587
>>714242437
Because it's an early access game, except one third is finished (online matchmaking), one third is a work-in-progress just like RoA1 was for years (mechanics, characters), and one third hasn't been implemented. They released the game as is because it's entirely playable and thousands of people playing your game competitively is a great way to figure out what does and doesn't work. It was the right choice. The game is successful, stable, and is only going to get more so with time because it turns out that releasing a fun $20-30 fighting game that doesn't rape players to death with MTX characters is a good way to generate sustainable interest in your product. There's basically nothing short of a Tekken 8 season 2 tier patch that can actually kill RoA2, so it's just going to keep chugging along

>Rivals 2 is like modern Smash
I'm sorry, but you and the Discord are retards if you sincerely believe this. Smash is Smash. Rivals is NEVER going to compete with Smash and it isn't trying to. The games have completely different design philosophies, mechanics, and selling points. At this point, the appeal of Smash is 80% rosterfaggotry and people have given up on the idea of a new Smash game having good (competitive) gameplay. Smash 6 will sell 100 million copies and life will go on. I'm not even going to get into the actual issues which Smash 6 will inevitably face, like being 3+ years away or being unplayable in handheld mode due to Switch 2 screen's response time (hopefully this is improved upon, but everyone who bought a release Switch 2 is fucked).
Rivals and Rivals 2 are both their own thing, divorced from Smash. 99% of people who bought Ultimate are simply never going to give RoA a chance, and that's perfectly fine. It's also mechanically different from Smash, no matter how much people imply otherwise by bringing up ledges and grabs. Even basic mechanics like these function differently in different games.
Anonymous No.714244587 >>714245358
>>714244101
>Rivals is NEVER going to compete with Smash and it isn't trying to.
Yes it is, that's why so many people that liked Rivals 1 dislike it. It's sacrificed it's originality to just be more like what sells. That's specifically a listed reason by players of why plenty of people, more than most fighting games have when a sequel comes out, just don't bother playing 2 instead.
Anonymous No.714244612
>>714242437
>When the next smash comes out, rivals 2 is going to be so fucked.
Lucky for the Rivals team, that seems to be a ways off given Sakurai seems to be busy with Kirby Air Riders at the moment, and it's possible they are waiting for him to finish, along with how long it takes for Smash to come out. I imagine this game is gonna be here for at least 3 or 4 more years.
Anonymous No.714245264 >>714248221
>>714243475
I don't agree with everything you said, but this is exactly why I laugh at anyone who tries to tell me Rivals 2 is actually doomed, especially morons who misinterpret Steam metrics. We already know Rivals 2 is a success because Rivals 1, which was less successful, survived and then thrived for 9 fucking years in a much more competitive market. During Rivals 1's lifespan
>it released as an unfinished piece of shit
>it released ugly as sin
>Melee was at its competitive peak
>PM was still alive
>Smash 4 had recently released
>Smash Ultimate released
and yet it lived. Look at the market now
>Melee is dying with tournament attendance down, tournament series being retired, organizations dissolving, and sponsors pulling out
>competitive Ultimate is worse than 4 was, with Steve, Min-Min, Snake, Rob, G&W, and Sonic ruining every single tournament with actual attendees
>Ultimate has 3-4 more years of the post-FP2 competitive meta
>NASB is dead due to corporate greed
>MVS is dead due to corporate greed
>Remix and P+ are both good alternatives, but neither can be played competitively without Nintendo intervening
>Rivals 2 has a dedicated core fan base who throw money at the developers, has more entrants than main stage games at Evo, and is pumping out content at an uninterrupted pace
The game has flaws, but it has 3-4 years to do literally whatever the fuck it wants before Smash - an IP it isn't even directly competing with - is relevant again. I have no idea why people want this game that basically cannot fail, realistically speaking, to fail so badly.
Anonymous No.714245358
>>714244587
What a cookie cutter, contrarian opinion. Fuck off, faggot.
Anonymous No.714245453 >>714245513 >>714245778
>>714210420
why not vg
Anonymous No.714245513
>>714245453
not enough posters to keep a thread alive there
Anonymous No.714245778
>>714245453
1. Gacha games and specific games like the FFXIV have basically taken over /vg/, killing off any thread that doesn't get a post every hour at all hours of the day.
2. There was a /vg/ thread, but it attracted schizos who deliberately tried to make it unusable. And /vg/ has no moderation so nothing was ever done about it.
Anonymous No.714247250 >>714247580 >>714247598
Okay so where does she go on the tier list?
Anonymous No.714247580
>>714247250
every character is in S tier
Anonymous No.714247598
>>714247250
on the "good enough" tier
Anonymous No.714248221
>>714245264
rivals 1 thrived in an objectively more competitive market, yeah. i did downplay its success in my post, but it was also objectively less expensive to maintain. rivals 2 would have to be several orders of magnitude more successful than that in order to sustain itself, but they're already surpassing my expectations as things are, and the game's only going to become a stronger purchase as time goes on.
Anonymous No.714248381 >>714248945
soooooooooo
does the game have good online?
Anonymous No.714248458 >>714251812
We all know what needs to be done, Dan.
Anonymous No.714248945
>>714248381
I played most of the day, and most of my matches were low on ping and lag. So I'd say yes.
Anonymous No.714251160 >>714253832
Anonymous No.714251812 >>714255452
>>714248458
My based wife does not understand the meaning of clothes.
Anonymous No.714252253
Pool party clothing? A what now?
Anonymous No.714253832
>>714251160
cute
Anonymous No.714255452
>>714251812
all skins are canon
Anonymous No.714257643
>TikTok.
is Absa a millennial?
Anonymous No.714257883 >>714258141
wait a minute, why is this thread on /v/, wasn't this franchise banished to the pony board or something
Anonymous No.714258141
>>714257883
uh? why would it? Only non mlp game that would make sense to ban to mlp would be Them Fighting Herds
Anonymous No.714258349 >>714259706 >>714259747
>>714194048 (OP)
offbrand games
Anonymous No.714258715
>>714242037
>accidentally make great mechanics
truly a melee sequel
Anonymous No.714259706
>>714258349
>open season on STK threads
>Offbrand's only release stays up
lol
Anonymous No.714259747 >>714259852 >>714273401
>>714258349
>open season on #SKG threads
>thread about Offbrand's only release stays up
lol
Anonymous No.714259852
>>714259747
surprised it's made it this far, maybe jannies are on vacation
Anonymous No.714261684
>>714220337
no? it would just give her a little ping-pong combo option
Anonymous No.714262359 >>714262582 >>714263016
>>714218171
>sluggish
She probably has the most expressive and high skill ceiling movement from the cast. All they need to do is give her gravjump platdrop back and she will be crazy.
Anonymous No.714262582
>>714262359
she is sluggish. play rivals 1
Anonymous No.714263016 >>714276084
>>714262359
she can't do that in rivals 2? i swear i was gravity jumping from platforms today
Anonymous No.714264806
I return in search of the guy who told me I was wrong on Absa being 3rd.

If you're here, fuck you and a mighty GGs
Anonymous No.714264921
>>714202561
OPs character looks very male.
Not even a twink either, like a fairly masculine body type.
Anonymous No.714265037
>>714237894
Because none of the dudes did. People forget but Rivals 1 started with ALL of them just being animals who stood on their hind legs for the most part. Not even Zetter had his loin cloth back then. In the case of the Dan original cast, Maypul was more or less an actual Raccoon which never ended up changing, Absa wears a loin, the snake is a snake, and the rabbit actually wore a jump suit.

Then comes the next era which was after the world got better defined which is around dungeons where fleet is actually the first wearing a real outfit outside of Lovers(distinction being in they'd only wear shit in a more modern set of times)
Anonymous No.714265170
>>714238871
Cause there were other new characters to add and remake. If she were base roster it would be like making every vet wait to play any newer characters, those of which will come after the normal cast is restored and adjusted to the new version of the game with grabs, VAs, ledges, and more costumes that don't last for just the idles
Anonymous No.714265252 >>714265363
>>714237637
A better question is why she has bottoms.
They draw attention to her being topless. It she just wasn't wearing clothes it wouldn't seem as unusual.
Anonymous No.714265363 >>714267802
>>714265252
Because there's nothing to actually hide above. It's like asking Maypul to put on a shirt, it's a pointless action while in comparison Clairen and, while not originally official, Olympia both actually do have tits to hide. Absa is just flat.
Anonymous No.714266013 >>714266719
why'd they make the goats so sexy?
Anonymous No.714266458
>>714235018
I feel that you're better off using it for moble sweet spot boost, special pummel funnel, uncharged burst, or just ledge block.

Trying to use that one as a set up never really seemed like it would have been a good idea since the mobile cloud is utility all on it's own especially if you go off stage to block with lightning from below ledge
Anonymous No.714266719
>>714266013
Goats are spawn of the devil made to seduce humans.
Anonymous No.714267276
>>714194048 (OP)
imagine the hoof jobse
Anonymous No.714267689 >>714270664 >>714271530 >>714276676
>>714196672
battle passes are inherently anti consumer I don't care that I can "complete it when I want" I'm not filling an exp tranny bar to boost player numbers for the metrics of the furry gay dev

you can keep your Fortnite audience but I'm not a zoomer or a yoomer, single player content or fuck off now go market your game on reddit
Anonymous No.714267802 >>714267934
>>714265363
That implies there's something to hide below.
Anonymous No.714267934
>>714267802
There is, just like there is for Zetter and Clairen. The more civilized the Aetherian, the more likely they are to actually wear clothes of some kind
Anonymous No.714269615 >>714272019 >>714272446
How come some females have breasts while others are completely flat?
Anonymous No.714270664
>>714267689
Good news, you don't need to do the battle passes at all, they're just a bonus for playing the game
Anonymous No.714271530
>>714267689
>nintendorone seething when competition isnt money grabbing, soulless company
Love to see it.
Anonymous No.714271685
>>714194048 (OP)
>>714210420
this thing is pretty sexy
Anonymous No.714272019
>>714269615
idk anon why are YOU completely flat while I have massive fat tits?
Anonymous No.714272446
>>714269615
we call those women
i think it's because dan legitimately isn't (or wasn't) a furry when he developed the first game, so it never occurred to him to give the borderline feral raccoon he named after his wife massive bazongas
Anonymous No.714273401
>>714259747
Because the game has nothing to do with the movement and merely got caught in the crossfire
>Ross told people to stop review-bombing the game and has no issue with it because the developers are actually preserving both it and RoA1
>Dan posted something on Steam to clarify any confusion about the game being live service
>that one faggot has nothing to do with the game, Ludwig's the one with an interest in it
>review bombing went nowhere
Between being a platform fighter, attracting Nintendofags, and Offbrand being involved in PR (they have nothing to do with development) the game has a habit of catching strays for no reason
Anonymous No.714276084
>>714263016
she can, it's just a way tighter window now because the platdropping animation is 3f instead of 1f in this game. it's funny that it's the exact opposite now of how it was in r1, where the platdrop version was way easier than the airborne one.
Anonymous No.714276449
>>714194048 (OP)
>no boobs
>she
Anonymous No.714276676
>>714267689
>free monthly battle pass that you can choose whether or not to engage with at your own discretion
>anti-consumer
buddy, how the fuck is it "anti-consumer" if there's not even a monetary transaction taking place and nothing significant is locked behind it? you're just saying words for the sake of saying words.
do you get mad when an rpg makes good spells accessible to you after you grind to a certain level, because it's "anti-consumer?"