Thread 714195338

>Breakable tools/weapons
I don't care how fucking "realistic" you think it is, devs: making me spend my time replacing broken shit makes me hate your game even more.

>inventory weight/limited inventory
>can only drop items off a specific locations

>>714195338 (OP)
>>714195503
>>714195491

>hard game/map where every bit of [item] counts
>at 99% capacity for item
>item placed in the way you have to go so you have to waste it
and
>see item you don't need so you don't go to it
>wander around for hours wondering what the fuck to do
>you were supposed to pick up the item because it triggers an ambush that opens the way out

>>714195503
I find it ok as long as having the ability to repair is pretty easy. Shit like what BOTW did was infuriating and a massive waste of my time.

>open world
>can only teleport from certain waypoints
If you're going to add fast travel to your giant map then at least make it convenient.

>starting weapons are the best in the game
>every new weapon you find is a sidegrade at best
looking at you bloodborne

>>714196256
this is good though

Staminashit in combat
Fuck Souls-likes, overrated shit.

>there are a large number of rooms designed with rewards inaccessible to any but the two characters with flight
Biggest peeve in Binding of Isaac; makes me wanna slap a dev so hard.

>invisible event/cutscene trigger or map geometry that immediately locks you out of the preceeding area
>artificial difficulty which just makes the average enemy take 10x less damage and you 10x more
>UI containing weapon stats only give vague terms like “good” “average” or use bars without numerics to compare gear
>lose relations with an NPC if you ask them if they have jobs but then decline to do it because it would be too far out of your way or skillset
>NPC you’re supposed to follow does not move at your walking or running pace but somewhere inbetween
>NPCs following you can’t keep up, follow at an inappropriate distance, or get caught on geometry
>no secret behind the waterfall

>you can only sprint for 5 seconds tops
>need to wait 3 seconds before you can sprint again

>you need to 'survive' by opening your inventory and clicking something every five to ten minutes
Fuck off with this shit already.

>>714195338 (OP)
when the devs try to make the game "fair" for the ai. like they try to make the ai a player that follows the same uses as a human, and the hard ai has a few bonuses. just make the game fun for me

>>714197345
>simple crafting materials have to be found in the wild and nobody in the world sells them
fuck elite dangerous for this in particular

>enemies have dynamic defenses that drastically reduces the amount of damage you do based on your dps
>it doesn't increase your dps if it's lower than normal or anything so you're just punished for making a good setup

>>714195920
i agree though it honestly still depends on the system
in morrowind, for example, weapon degradation lowers your weapons effectiveness with every fucking hit

>eat something
>starving 5 minutes later
Survival mechanics are made by fat people.

>>714197009
I call these games “fat person simulators.”

>game has weapon durability
>enemies can shoot/hit you an infinite amount of times and aren't affected by durability
>if you kill them they always drop worn out weapons

>>714197909
>actions you frequently have to do have a long series of menu navigation needed to do them
I love mount and blade but having to constantly upgrade your troops after every battle is so tedious

>>714195338 (OP)
>turn rate
>random damage ranges
>rng in a competitive environment
>base attack time

>>714195965
This is literally the best way to do fast travel

Fast travel instantly from anywhere completely invalidates going anywhere on foot. It turns navigation into menu'ing and load screens

>>714196256
>RE Revelations 2
Every single fire arm is legit worse than the one you're carrying
>NEW HANDGUN...! but it does less damage
>NEW SHOTGUN...! but it does less damage
Literal PowerDowns

a game with shotguns having any of
>shot spreads in a 30 degree cone like a confetti popper
>projectiles disappear or do practically no damage after 10 meters
>the semi-automatic shotgun in the same caliber as a pump action does less damage
>the pump action in the same caliber does less damage then the side by side

bonus points if the sniper rifles
>can only ever realistically be used inside 100 meters
>have excessively pronounced muzzle sway/bullet drop/wind effect to compensate for the short range

>>714197920
I feel like Morrowind balances it out pretty well since you dont even need to carry around repair hammers since repair prongs exist. Ultimately the mechanic is useless since it becomes nothing more than a minor inconvenience that simply punishes those who dont want to prepare for adventure. My beef is mostly with item durability with no way to repair, overly expensive, tedious/difficult to do. My BIGGEST issues are games where the items HP degrades super quick and you have to keep repairing it CONSTANTLY. I find minecraft suffered from this where repairing is expensive and so you just carry around 10 stone picks to mine.

>>714195503
This singlehandedly made me hate New Horizons. Axes made sense in previous games because they did the hardest job and it prevented you from doing a stupid and deforesting your town without serious consideration. But why the fuck do bug nets and fucking watering cans break? Why would you waste your fucking time and resources on gold tools if they just fucking break? It makes no goddamn sense.

>>714198475
No it's a half-assed measure that neither promotes walking on foot nor gives the full benefit of easy fast travel.

>>714196806
I have become demoralized since the secrets behind every waterfall trend is dying. I also hate how modern games simply try to explain to you the entire story through audio logs/notes. Where they are placed in every fucking room and breaks up the pacing of the game because you need to stop every 5 seconds. I like half-life because of how the story is presented to you.

>objectively the most boring and pointless activity in an mmo
>hide essential material behind it

>>714197054
>you need to open a menu to even look at the survival stats in the first place.

>long cutscenes
>rng

>>714198272
>enemy never runs out of ammo
>drops 2 pistol bullets when killed

>enemy has cool weapons and armor
>enemy dies
>you get pocket lint

>>714195338 (OP)
>unskippable cutscenes
uninstalled and refunded

>>714195503
I don't mind this if you can repair them since it plays into inventory/resource management and that can be a decent gameplay mechanic

>>714195338 (OP)
I don't mind stamina bars unless the majority of traversal requires them
stamina is fine as long as you're sprinting toward a bike/car/plane/etc

>>714195338 (OP)
>force you to walk, taking away all other controls, just to listen to dialogue
>cant skip it

>>714200698
>loot scales with the player’s power level so its in your best interest to loot good locations last or else the loot will always be dogshit

>>714195836
I mean, the running while outside combat draining stamina thing happened well before BotW.

>>714197345
>accidentally sell important item
>try to buy it back
>price jacked up to 10 times what you were paid

>>714195338 (OP)
>area with multiple paths
>one is the story path that locks you from returning without any indication after you step over an arbitrary invisible line
Lotta fuckin jrpgs

>>714202460
>unique quest rewards scale with level
>get them too early and you are stuck with the gimped shit versions for the rest of your playthrough
thanks oblivion

Read skill/stat description
>Does moderate damage
>Inflicts poison for a short duration
>Has a small chance to inflict charm
>Increases defense slightly
>Has many small effects on many things

Holy shit just tell me what it does as a remotely quantifiable number

>>714195836
Voice acting are crap

>>714195338 (OP)
>fantasy world
>they are on a wheelchair
>could levitate
>could be carried by a golem
>could necromance their legs
>could magitech an exoskeleton
>could have multi legged contraption
>could mecha centaur
>naw paraplegic even in fantasy world

>>714195836
can you go one day of your life without thinking that people are talking about your slop just because they mentioned that it was raining outside (botw has rain)?

>>714195503
I dont mind it unless the weapon breaks all the fucking time.

>>714199363

>need to pee
>pressing start just skips the cutscene outright instead of pausing it

god dammit

>Magical enchanted item
>+2.4% increase to damage for 5 seconds after using an healing item
>+1.5% increase to attack speed
>+0.8% increase to defense against ice damage

>>714203575

It's something to balance and consider. I think if your game has a limited inventory system and you do genuinely need to consider what to bring with you or the risk/reward, it's fine. Some survival games do this but usually by the late game of those, you're usually so stacked up on important shit that it doesn't matter anymore.

>>714197009
I was a former state champion sprinter, and yes anon, that's how sprinting works in real life. unironically touch grass and try running some time

>>714200698
Has there ever been a single game bold enough to always just give you the equipment that you can clearly see the enemy is wearing? I feel like such an obvious design choice could really shake things up.

>>714203886
>get to pick one option for a perk bonus
>deal 10% bleed damage
>OR deal 10% poison damage

I hate it when indie games do the darksouls thing where you drop money where you die and you can pick it back up in that spot.
this very iconic thing, has absolutely zero value in 90% of games because who in the fuck isnt going to just throw themselves at a boss many times in a row until they beat it? especially in a soulslike?
its usually not even about the money dropped, when I eventually die I need to beat the boss to progress so....it adds nothing to the interaction. its actually better to lose your loot and not pick it up every single rematch so you can just focus on the boss.

I fail to see how this adds anything to these games at all, even darksouls itself. best case scenario it just adds nothing to the game, worst case is it will discourage you from exploring and you are stuck there. thats not a good thing in your adventure game.
it begs the question how much money do you need to have on the line to make this mechanic serve any real purpose? and how stupid must you be to walk into a boss room with too much money to risk losing? does it just punish people not paying attention?
I HAVE QUESTIONS OKAY

>>714196806
>NPC you’re supposed to follow does not move at your walking or running pace but somewhere inbetween

at launch borderlands 3 had an npc that would teleport to the end of his path, then keep radioing you to hurry up, i loved that until i found out it was a bug and patched out later

>fail a boss encounter
>have to watch the entire prefight scene every retry

>>714204303
PAIN
pic related and metroid other m

>>714195503
>spend 15 minute killing black enemy with unlimited bomb because i don't want to break 2 full strongest weapon
fun

>>714195836
bro didnt even mention your game, thats what we call a self report ladies and gentlemen

>>714195338 (OP)
Make a bad video game

>developers make ammo for firearms rare to discourage using them
>and also make it so you can only ever carry a fistful of bullets for each weapon so you’re constantly passing over ammo drops

>>714195503
>breakable weapons
>repairing them reduces their max durability

>>714203227
>The high level versions run out after 30 hits and cost two Grand soul gems to replenish
Skyrim's enchanting was much better in this regard

>gun has perfect accuracy when hip firing
>aiming down sights only adds recoil and weapon sway

>>714195338 (OP)
>play a modern fps game
>"horizontal and vertical sensitivity"
Fuck off. Either make it all in 1 or an option to enable/disable it.

>>714204678
TES games do this in most cases Morrowind would be the best example

>game has a ledge grab/climb mechanic
>only certain ledges can be grabbed

>>714204678
Most CRPGs do.

>>714204251
You can't double jump in real life and games still have it, let me sprint forever

>>714195338 (OP)
>You can pick up heals even at full hp

>>714205580
>certain ledges are all highlighted by white/ yellow paints that ruin the aesthetic

>>714204748
>it turns out the bleed was option was a trap because all the late game enemies are immune to it while they can be poisoned

Fucking Necrons in RT. Good thing my build was broken as fuck anyway, but it was very annoying.

>Poison is a joke
>Potions are too weak so nobody cares about using them OR they're OP and rare to the point of where people never use them
>Unique items are all SHIT

>>714204251
>former state champion sprinter
>sprints for 5 seconds before having to stop
>WR for 100 m is in the 9s
>anon was the former state champion in the 40 meter dash

>>714195503
wouldn't mind it if the repair mechanic was something more fun than "go to bench, open menu, select weapon, pick repair (optional: spend money and/or crafting items to do so)"

>bosses are immune to status effects
>normal enemies are too weak too bother using them

Reading all of your complaints it's clear you guys only play trash games.

>Devs introduce one super strong weapon that trivializes the entire game and makes other weapons useless
>It's not even endgame weapon

>game has elemental magic
>it's just different flavors of magic missile

>>714206010
>devs sell DLC pack weapons which invalidate otherwise challenging enemies
hello sniper pack for payday 2 deleting every bulldozer and shield that wandered nearby

>game has a set of collectables with minor rewards for gathering them
>exactly one is in a temporary location you get locked out of after finishing the mission associated with
>it's also the hardest one to find by far

>>714204251
Shut up Usagi.

>>714205935
I was so fast that I could afford to recharge for 3 seconds before sprinting for another 2.

>you can revive party members
>party members can’t revive you

>>714204303
>talk and walk segment
>I reach the end of the hallway before the talk is over

>>714205951
Danganronpa RPG did this but you could charge a limite break (or max a skill to have it turn 1) to boost 1 attack and it made it possible to use statuts effect on boss.
it was the most broken shit i have ever seen, everything else is basicaly trolling at this point

>Weight and/or tetris inventory system
Buddy, we're all hoarders here

>>714195338 (OP)
>can spend a turn for random chance to acquire enemy spells if they choose to cast it that turn
>given no indication as to whether you can even learn a particular spell until you finally succeed at the chance to learn
>either have to learn these spells on each character individually or spend a limited resource to cut and paste skills between characters movesets, not copy and paste
>most of the spells you can learn are garbage anyways
Breath of Fire 3's examine system seems very undercooked unless I'm missing something.

>>714206595
>the big bad delivers exposition in a walk and talk segment
>he finished his speech and you’re only 30% through getting to where you need to be

I got the best one
>MAKE A FUCKING ACCOUNT FOR OUR PLATFORM IF YOU WANT TO PLAY, WE KNOW YOU BOUGHT THE GAME FROM STEAM, BUT NOW WE WANT YOU TO MAKE A SEPARATE ACCOUNT WITH US

>>714205951
>include two bosses which can require status effects, good luck finding out which ones

>>714204251
games don't need to emulate real life, they need to be fun

>game has stamina and/or mana and managing it is important
>enemies have the stat but it's so high that it may as well be infinite
wizards in skyrim are ridiculously unfun to fight until you get enough magic resist

puzzles in non-puzzle games

yes, devs, I know I'm a fucking moron, I don't need you violently ripping the controller out of my hand so you can remind me with some obtuse shit my retard brain will spend 5 days on before caving and looking up a guide, and I don't need to be reminded that math is an invention made by Satan himself designed specifically to torture me

special mention for anyone who puts sliding block puzzles in their game, because those are super fun and not abject misery or anything like that

>>714204678
Borderlands 1, the cool thing is that enemies will just fucking nuke you sometimes, but they removed that feature entirely in subsequent games

>>714206932
>play melee grug on master
>walk into room full of ice mages
>get kited to death
and thus a stealth archer is born

>>714204678
Bethesda games always let you take any equipment (humanoid) enemies are using

>occasionally negates status effect
this either means it's a 2% chance to negate poison only, or a guaranteed chance to negate all non-boss-mechanic status effects in the entire game, and nothing inbetween

>>714206759
Fucking winner

>>714204678
Titan Quest has some enemies that wear the equipment they drop

>Spamming roll or dash allows you to move around faster than simply running.
>Inventory system has weight mechanics. Fill the game up with pointless loot like silverware, deer testicles, etc.

>>714195338 (OP)
>game has an X-ray scan mechanic a la Witcher vision etc
>some collectibles appear ONLY when you use it
>and only when you're close to them, otherwise you see a faint outline
>these collectibles are one of the few ways to level up
this low key ruined Hogwarts Legacy for me as it became a spam scan simulator

>>714195338 (OP)
Nothing wrong with that, Elden ring made sprinting outside of combat stamina free but this shit never bothered me

>>714198483
I despised that game and had no idea why everyone sucked it's dick.

>forced AI coop
>AI partner is mentally retarded and WILL stand there staring at an enemy approaching for a full 10 seconds before getting smacked in the face
>AI partner can die and uses health supplies to heal
>game is designed around rapid switching between partners so you can deal more damage with chained together melee attacks, which gets annoying extremely quickly
>godawful "wait for boss to allow you to damage them while running around forever" boss designs
>some enemies have absolutely obtuse weakpoints (the guys with the flame launchers having the weakpoint literally be their ass when it doesn't look any different from the rest of them)
>ammo starvation and shitloads of combat in Claire sections, leaving ammo behind because it's absolutely fucking everywhere and there's almost nothing to fight in Barry ones
>dumb self aware Jill Sandwich references every 5 minutes
>Moira is insufferable, refusing to handle a gun in that situation because muh PTSD is retarded
>lackluster BamHam stealth
>immense empty sections of the map with nothing even worth looking at or exploring
>literally 50% of the game is just recycled stages from the first half
>retarded episodic microtransaction shit at launch
>guns all feel weak
>story is dumb, Crapcum trying to ape The Last of Us is obvious, trying to make it an emotional moment when Dude McWhatsHisFace you've seen in 2 cutscenes betrays Claire is retarded
>Claire is 32 and Barry is 51 but since it's Japan they made her look like a hag and have constant references to Barry being a fossil
>Barry, the insane prepper gun nut, finds out his daughter has been abducted and decides his best plan of action is to go to the island, alone, with nothing more than a knife, handgun, rifle and a few magazines of ammo

>>714195338 (OP)
Nightmare of Decay is the only game I've seen that does it right, you can run forever if there are no living enemies in the area but use stamina running if there are

>>714199224
it works perfectly fine in morrowind

>>714195503
Durability is only okay if
>The weapon doesn't break in 3 hits like BotW
>You have multiple locations in the game to repair said item

>>714207949
What, have you even played REV2? The companion is literally immortal and cannot die, and her crowbar does a fuckton of damage (and even more once upgraded) so the game can be trivialized by just playing as the partner and facetanking (and also sneak attacking whenever possible).

>>714208243
Tell me why she gets knocked down and I need to get her ass up frequently. I didn't know that about the crowbar, I tried facetanking some of the freaky zombies with it and she took like 6 swings to kill one

>>714207420
>JOIN OUR DISCORD/GIVE US YOUR EMAIL TO GET FREE STARTER BONUSES

>>714208315
Both Moira and Natalia are immortal, their health can go down but regens very quickly, and while they can be knocked down they'll never die. So basically park Claire somewhere else and then sneak around, get some insta-kills with the stealth take down mechanic, then facetank the rest. Use the flashlight to stun them first, obviously.

>>714196256
This is how it should be

>>714208767
Moira can stealth kill? Does she regen health even when you are controlling her? How do you handle the big masked fucks with hammers that took ages to flashlight stun?

I fucking hate Crapcum, faggots love their obtuse game design.

>>714204678
For all the shit bethesda games get, that's one of the things they get right
With the added fun that if the enemy has some bullshit overpowered weapon, killing them is tricky, but the reward is juicy

>>714195836
Kek, the problems are so rife in your favourite game that you assume people are complaining about it even when it’s never mentioned

>>714208910
Have you even played the fucking game lmao
>Moira can stealth kill?
Pretty sure there's a tutorial for this, that's the whole point of her crowbar.
>Does she regen health even when you are controlling her?
Yes, it kicks in after a few seconds.
>How do you handle the big masked fucks with hammers that took ages to flashlight stun?
Their weak point is on their back below the neck. Stun them with the flashlight, then go around and hit the weak point.

Maybe I actually just don't like MMOs or MMORPGs, but I don't like doing dailies. It often makes playing the game feel like a chore, especially with these older mmos that were developed when subscriptions were an actual thing. When I reach the point where I'm doing more daily shit then actual progress or questing that's when I quit.

>>714204251
Im a skinnyfat nerd and can sprint at full speed for half a minute or something, how retarded are you?

>>714209282
was especially bad in the BFA expansion for wow. i quit for good with that expansion.

>>714195338 (OP)
>Save files are stored in AppData
>Games in which you create your own character require you to PUT THE PORTRAITS IN AppData

Stop this shit.

>>714209226
I played it up until just after you kill the mutated dude who betrayed Claire where you have to flashlight him until he starts burning up, then shoot the eyeballs that pop out on his body.
>Pretty sure there's a tutorial for this, that's the whole point of her crowbar.
They give a popup for Claire and Barry but never her, I assumed she couldn't since she's just a dumb untrained teenage girl
>Yes, it kicks in after a few seconds.
How can you tell? Her vision stays all fucked up.
>Their weak point is on their back below the neck.
How the hell can you tell? Same thing with shooting the anus of Mr. Flamethrower, there's nothing special about them to indicate it, it's not like RE4 where enemies have visually obvious weakpoints.

>>714195338 (OP)
LMAOOOO THIS FAT FUCK CAN'T SPRINT

>>714209476
fucking Clock Tower

>>714195503
>I don't care how fucking "realistic" you think it is
It really isn't realistic. Even without maintenance cheap tools have reliability to work for x100 the number of times you would use them in a vidya playthrough.
I also think about other broken utilities like Infra where the flashlight goes dark after three minutes of use and you need batteries.

>>714197909
>It took 7 generations of pogeymonz before they thought to put the one PC Box funtion anyone actually uses at the top of the menu

>>714209282
That was the great thing about WoD, you could do all the grindy shit on your phone.

>>714209418
for me it was realizing that I could play a DF fort and have more fun making a soap industry then doing the same in land of lords and at the same time avoid dealing with the mega-autist megakingdoms

>buy equipment at new town
>go to next area
>find the equipment i just bought in chests for free

>>714195338 (OP)
This movie was great and I have no idea why so many people disliked it
Goob was a fun sympathetic villain, Doris was a cool murderbot, and it had some nice lessons
Sure it's not on the same level as the incredibles or something but it was good

>>714195338 (OP)
+2% critical damage if the caster is poisoned, only active during the full moon
Does anyone ever pick those sorts of things? To me 3/4 of RPG build options are just bloat.

>>714210476
ive been replaying bannerlord and so many of the perk options when leveling up are either inconsequential dogshit or things youd only ever spec into an NPC
>travel 5% faster in deserts and plains
>OR travel 5% faster in forests and tundras
>your troops eat 25% less food while in a seige camp
>OR are paid 25% less wages
>swing 3% faster with one handers
>OR get 30 more handling with one handers
>sell trade goods for 25% more OR equipment for 25% more
and so many of the perks are scattered across different skills you’d never keep track of them. stupid shit like
>a perk in riding that makes an NPC governing a settlement give it 0.5 security per day
what an absolute mess

>Strength: Increases attack power
>Defense: Decreases how much damage you take
>Magic: Increases the potency of your spells
>Agility: Affects your movement speed and turn order
>Luck: "has a variety of effects :^)"

>>714196256
I hate this shit, if they are going to pull this crap then don't put neither weapons or armor, I beat BB with the fucking starting garb.

>>714205862
Dragon Quest in a nutshell.

>>714206010
This is a double edged blade, if you put it too early it trivializes the game, if you put it too late then what the fuck is there for.

Dark Souls and Nocturne are guilty of the respective scenarios.

>>714211878
>if you put it too late then what the fuck is there for
NG+

>>714211154
>luck is also bugged and doesn't even do anything

>>714211154
>luckmaxxing is the best build
Oops, thought I was in the best things devs do thread.

>>714212143
feels like every game without fail it’s either literally useless or game breakingly broken with no in between

>>714201160
Like the RE4 Remake?

>>714204818
Think the intention of that system is to make getting to the boss or exploring for items more interesting. Most people who find a boss gate just run back to base, use their souls and then sprint past everything to get to the boss gate again once powered up.

>>714211948
This is a real thing in some older games.

>>714195836
I'm replaying BotW now and it's fucking retarded, dude. The Master Sword "running out of energy" and constantly running out of stamina despite having three wheels is beyond frustrating.

>crouch on c
>toggle crouch on ctrl

>>714195338 (OP)
But anon, then you'll realize how short your game is, and more clearly realize how badly you've been ripped off
>>714195491
That's most AAA games since the mid 2010s, don't kid yourself
>>714195503
A sensible one. Fuck this mechanic. I'm expected to suspend disbelief for magic, demons, mythical shit, etc, but I'm expected to just accept at face value that almost everything breaks after 3-10 hits?
>b-but muh DyNaMiC CoOmBaT and sTrAtEgY
yeah, gtfo with that

>>714196493
I feel like stamina can make the combat interesting depending on how it's handled.
Khazan for instance is interesting where you can sometimes stun-lock the boss, only limited by your stamina so learning your own moveset to optimise your moves can add some depth, and adding in that enemies have their own stamina bar that can also be used to reset your own when you exhaust them, it gives a certain flow to the combat.
Something like Wukong on the other hand feels like it has stamina just because other games do. That game only gets saved because there's so many ways to increase stamina regen that it basically stops existing once you get to chapter 3.

>>714213569
>>714214001
Having durability on equipment is nothing but resource-sink in any game. And there isn't a single game where you think "Oh boy! Durability is a fun mechanic! I really enjoy it!".

>>714211938
I wish so many more ganes had ng+
At least then I'd feel like I had more than 20 fucking hours
Just because games want to be movies these days doesn't mean they have to be as short as one

>>714206010
a lot of shooters still have the problem of the starting pistol being the best weapon in the game simply because of its abundance of ammo or infinite ammo to clean up most enemies. Where every other weapon is simply reserved for those special encounters.

>introduce a new class that breaks from the classic rpg classes
>its absolute fucking dogshit and requires insane min/max to be even OK

Skill trees and RPG elements in non-RPG games.
I don't care about number crunching in an FPS or action platformer. Fuck off and die for all of eternity.

>Game introduces new guns
>They're less detailed and clip on the player
Division 2, you just know that the "gun" guy left the dev-team.

>>714207709
>its faster to move diagonally/B-hopping/both.
>a first person platformer where you lose all momentum the instant you press S mid jump.

>>714214157
And yet any time I called out dark cloud for ruining rpgs for me for a brief time, I'd have anons giving me shit. But they're likely dark soul-tryhards, so everything needs to be a uber challenge for them or else how else will people know how god tier they are?

>>714205328
The modern Deus ex games are terrible for this. Most the time I just use an upgraded pistol and maybe 2 other weapons max since you have fuck all space for anything else

>>714195836
Playing this on cemu with 5 times durability made it way more tolerable and it's still a shit game

>take some potion from a chest in some person's house
>the whole fucking world knows you stole something

>>714214642
If it's normie shit like nutomb raider, I agree
But I found it oddly satisfying when I first played borderlands

>>714214001
>yeah, gtfo with that
But, it is a perfectly sensible and valid reason. It does make battles more dynamic and forces variation in your weapon usage. That is a good thing, but you don't have to like it.

These two are hyper From Soft specific:
>can't compare gear in stores to gear you're wearing
>no USE ALL OF THE SOULS ITEMS IN MY INVENTORY button.

>>714215000
Wasted trips
Then I just won't buy.
Simple. As.

>>714211938
NG+ is the lazy cop-out for postgame.

>have a terrible party member
>refuse to use them through most of the game, so they are seriously underlevel, under equipped
>suddenly, forced to use them in some squad battle

>>714214985
>I found it oddly satisfying
Yea, because it's the easiest, cheapest way to hook players.
Just make the number go up slightly and they'll keep doing boring shit that they would never find enjoyable otherwise.
If you take away the experience points and unlocks, you would find the actual activities are not fun. It's work, not play.

>>714215182
nta, but I feel like ng+ is a way to basically get double the replayability, with the added benefit of fucking shit up and feeling like an unstoppable force of nature, depending on how the ng+ is balanced

>>714195503
breakable weapons are fine if
>you have an infinitely usable weapon with decent damage that gets defaulted to on break
>the weapons are all over the place and there's no push for weapon permanence at all
but like barely any games do this, saint's row 2, uhhh silent hill origins
every other game i can think of durability is designed as a ballbusting chore for no good reason, shadow tower being the absolute worst in all of gaming

>>714206683
This but blue magic in all the FF games that have it. Neat concept but the execution makes it an absolute slog unless you're following a guide

>>714195338 (OP)
>Anon let me show you the way!
>Follow NPC to x
>NPC walks faster than your walk but slower than your run

>>714215226
Breath of Fire 2 does this three fucking times with three different party members.

>>714204251
Not the same, you dopey autistic fuck

>>714212143
there should be a game where the luck stat is more of a gambling thing
like if you have max luck the crit rolls can be like 10x damage BUT ALSO 1/10x damage, so investing in luck makes luck a bigger factor in gameplay

>>714215951
>fucking sten-only in the first half of that one dungeon

>>714215226
>the devs knew no one would use him
>level scale the fight

>>714195338 (OP)
Real world time mechanics that are just "wait X amount of time for thing to arbitrarily finish"

>>714195338 (OP)
>>sprinting outside of combat costs stamina
I hate this. I work out 5 times a week, but I'm not some min max try hard. Still I can run 30 minutes straight. I expect an actual hero to be more athletic and stronger than me to actually run more than me. But I think most devs are probably fat losers who have a hard time running for 30 seconds and think thats normal.

>>714216954
>"come back later"
>just spend one minute leaving the area and reentering it immediately

>>714195503
I felt it added to the game in New Vegas, of course only for certain playthroughs. People tend to bring up FarCry 2 as another good example, but it stops being significant after about 1 hour.

>Weapon damage (67-73)
OH FUCK OFF WITH THIS BULLSHIT AND MAKE THE WEAPONS DO CONSISTENT DAMAGE. YES, THAT EVEN GOES FOR MMOs!

>>714217359
>weapon damage: 1-20

>>714195338 (OP)
>"Game" is a webstore with a side of game.
>"You cannot go that way"
>Nobody has any money but you and shopkeepers.
I cannot believe I had to mod that into Kenshi. Silly shit.
>When the enemy uses a certain spell or ability it's good, when the player uses it it sucks.
I'm sure (you) have one in mind.
>This area of the game directly attacks the user's framerate. Never fixed.
>The enemy can see you perfectly in darkness across the map, telepathically hone in on your location, and fire infinitely from any location on their model.
Tom Clancy titles were bad about this, Tarkov as well.
>There's an action that is faster than walking you can spam.
ME3 multiplayer, pizza runners were Drell (25% faster), Krogan (Headbutt was faster and didn't drop the pizza), and Asari backward 'ports (which DID drop the pizza, but at the end of the 'port unlike every other 'port in the game). I got so tired of Krogan YaHaHA! Eeeaghh!ing to the pizza zone, or hearing Hackett lose his mind telling us the status of the package until "well done team".
>Forced loss
Just give me a cutscene and don't waste my time, you railroading fucks.
>Game makes you stop playing the game to play an entirely different, worse game.
Every time I think about Black Flag I remember it contains Office Simulator 2013.
>HBS Battletech.
I have a long fuckin list for this game.
>Risk of Rain 2
I will always be mad.
>>714206759
I will not abide that shit, that's an instant refunderino. The more hoops I have to jump through to play your game, the less likely I am to play it. If pirating your product is more convenient than dealing with you, consider why that is.

>>714217189
Added to making speccing Repair mandatory for Jury-Rigging.
Fuck repair mechanics.

>>714217189
>>714218210
this, weapon durability is only good in New Vegas because Jury Rigging makes it effectively not exist

>you liked our first game?
>well, we're changing the formula for the second game and adding a retarded wagon riding section

>>714218421
azure lane and arknight are doing this and i hope they fking flop.
although i know you are talking about dark dungeon.

>>714215724
Stranger of Paradise did it pretty good if you ask me.

>>714217183
I just can't wrap my head around it. No quicker way to get me to just tune out is to intentionally waste my time. Even worse when it's in full priced games so there's zero monetary incentive for the devs to put that shit in there like a F2P game would.

>>714195338 (OP)
>kill shopkeeper for his super fancy overpriced gear
>he only drops five bucks and a half-eaten apple

Th... Thanks larian

>>714206759
Thread was over here.

>>714195503
i like how it was handled in darkwood but the problem was that you don't get more resource-intensive weapons until later on and by then the game floods you with way too much shit
i was expecting the pressure of resource management and having to pick your fights at day so you know you have enough durability to make it through the night
the devs made the game too easy

>>714207709
I FUCKA DA PIZZA

>>714219082
its the only good FF for a reason

>>714219395
Darkwood is really badly balanced when it comes to this. You are almost resource starved the first two areas so surviving nights quickly becomes pure fucking hell, then suddenly the game starts shitting stuff all over the place for you and you are leaving weapons behind because you can't even carry them.

>absurdly fuck you hard game/section of game
>years later the devs themselves openly admit they never properly playtested or actually beat it

Fuck you, Derek Yu and Dave Jaffe.

>>714207949
damn, almost everything in your list is wrong
how the fuck can you be so bad at playing a easy game?

>watch my special snowflake build!
>3 levels winged faggot bard, 5 levels of anal prolapser pro and 1 level dip of dickcheese sniffer prestige class for the nauseating breath feat!
>woooow my super retarded build that gives AIDS by being in the same room as my hideous tranny char can now beat the game 0.003 seconds faster than any normal class from 3 editions ago!

>>714204251
I used to spring for half an hour or more as a former fit guy, fuck off
If anything, stamina should be extended past whats usually necessary

>>714209282
any game that includes fomo mechanics need to have its devs get 100 lashes at least. the producers and suitniggers 500.

>>714213569
it's perfectly in line with the entire design philosophy of the game which is "jacking off for 80 hours with no reason to do anything"

>>714214042
wukong has a lot stuff that is there just because other games have it, without the thing being meaningful.
chinks are unable to understand things and they just mash things together they've seen before with no rhyme or reason

>>714215182
only if the game isn't designed well.
also a post game is not a reasonable or even sensible thing to include in many cases.

>>714219701
those goddamn climbing sections in hades man

>>714217359
>>714218041
bardicky in diablo 2

>>714219906
I don't know if there's a lot of things like that in Wukong. Maybe the defense stats on armour. What else do you think is like that in the game?

>>714197345
>>714202974
>different items sell at different rates in different towns
>prices also fluctuate over time
>game requires to you exploit this economy by buying up items when and were they are cheap, and figuring out where and when to sell them for profit

>>714221291
That's so stupid. It wouldn't never work in real life.

>>714221291
shalom

>>714201364
We must be better men and listen to the bitch moan about her problems in our vidya.

>>714219701
Mt. Itoi is some serious fuck.

>>714197909
Fucking Stellar Blade
>Left bumper on menu shifts from the first tab to the last
>Up doesn't take you to the bottom of the menu

>>714205861
Shit, good to know, thanks anon. I'll keep that in mind when I decide to continue playing

>>714206806
Name 6 million

>>714203886
In WoW vanilla, I'll admit it was cool seeing kamikaze mages all geared up in various shitty greens with +arcane damage for their arcane explosions. But yeah, fucking gay stats in most pickups from these kinds of games. And you find yourself grinding for something miniscule just to have some fun.

>>714205391
I installed a mod in the remaster that makes soul gems, and enchanting by proxy, broken. I used it sparingly, but being able to fill most of a weapon with a great soul gem is so convenient

>>714195338 (OP)
>sprinting around level
>stumble into combat
>annoyed that you were wasting a resource you needed for combat

>>714205370
Fucking. Rust.

>>714219701
>Derek Yu
I know you're probably implying Spelunky, but I swear to fucking god, Onion Delivery cherry can eat my entire ass.

>>714196806
Good post

>>714222839
It was Spelunky, he never completed the entire game in one run himself, only sections at a time while playtesting

>Many modifiers/titles for stuff like items like “Awesome”, “Superior”, “Terrible” with varying improvements/deficits to different stats
>Except there’s a modifier like “Legendary” or “Godly” that gives high, all-around stat improvements and is the best choice in 95% of situations, with some of the bonuses being even better than the highest bonuses on different modifiers that are supposed to be min-maxed for specific stats.

>>714222681
To be fair, that one's in the title

Crafting systems. If it's specifically a crafting autism game where most of the game is centered around it, fine. If it's not, don't include a crafting system I'm fucking tired of them

>>714223076
based and true

>>714198272
STALKER GAMMA/Anomaly be like

>>714204818
Dark Souls did it therefore my indie game has to do it. But we're not copying dark souls btw and our fans will get very mad if you say otherwise

>item A gives +3 physical resistance, item B gives +3 armor, item C gives 10% physical damage reduction
>what's the difference between them? how much does each one reduce damage by? who the fuck knows

>>714215226
Fuck you Warhammer Tacticus. I cannot progress in campaign missions because I'm forced to level a retarded psyker, or an underperformed medic, that are useless endgame.

>Game has health and/or damage upgrades
>Enemies deal more damage and take less at a rate that is equal to your own progression
>At no point do you feel more powerful

>>714223042
Hence the ironic pic

>Game has a dash
>It's not very fast
>You can't jump out of it to keep your speed

>>714195338 (OP)
>introduce tons of status effects and every class has at least a form of a stun
>Literally everything falls off except for the tanks who can still stun, but no one else can because any enemy not basic bitch mob-tier resists statuses
What's the point when no enemy other classes can stun is even worth stunning because they don't do anything dangerous enough

>>714218301
It's good because you're limited until you reach that point, then it opens everything up. Suddenly, you're looking at loot differently and prioritizing different items
>I wonder what I can use to repair my anti-material rifle, lemme take a lo-
>HOLY SHIT, I CAN USE A HUNTING RIFLE?!?!
It's a sweet feeling

>character clearly designed to be a tank
>uses a shield, high hp and armour
>have him lead the charge right into the thick of things
>enemies completely ignore him and rush your backline

>>714223510
Isn't that just regular Mega Man with the slide?

>>714204251
did you even bother reading that post or are you just this retarded

>>714213929
this boy is undercooked. throw him back in.

>>714224158
There's a cool ass MSDOS rpg called Albion that I'm 99% sure James Camerson stole the story of Avatar from that does this, combat is grid/position based but enemies are programmed to rush to your weakest dudes first so you pretty much have to have your frontline fighters box them in every fight.

>>714224158
Do you not do that to enemies too? Ignore the meat sponges while focussing down the squishy dps/crowd controllers in the back?

>>714195338 (OP)
>Some cunts on the radio NEVER EVER SHUT THE FUCK UP
>You stop for a moment to loot or look around
>HEY HURRY UP HEY HURRY UP HEY GO FASTER WE'RE TOTALLY IN A HURRY
Play fucking wind sounds and/or music. I don't care.
Also audiologs. Just give me the text version if it's some critical info.

>puzzle game is poorly made
>you sit somewhere thinking you're stumped
>check a guide once you give up
>follow guide, still can't beat the puzzle
>the game was just softlocked

>>714195338 (OP)
>game launches in early access

>>714224158
It's so bad in BG3 that you legit can auto-win the game half asleep by having a low AC character in the back and letting the enemies kill themself because they gladly walk trough your frontline face tanking attacks and wasting all their movement to try and hit the mage on the other side of the map

>im fine
>im fine
>im fine
>AAAAARRGHHH IM SO HUNGRY IM DYING AIIIIEEEE

>>714195338 (OP)
>infinite spawning enemies
>they don't drop ammo or health upon death

>game has map is in shadow until you walk over it
Devs, you know my autism won't let me leave the area until I unlock every inch of the map

>games let's you sort items, but not the way you want
I know this isn't really a developer problem

>>714206981
>sliding block puzzles
..what game are you even playing? Something asian?

>>714198765
>You can't hit anything with a shotgun
>Enemies with the same shotgun can snipe you from far away
I'm looking at you Battlefronts 1 and 2

>poison or dots in general that do fuck all because 99% of enemies are resistant to them or they just have completely shit damage and arent worth using
>money being scarce as fuck so you cant buy anything, but the moment you start getting mad cash all your items completely obliterate anything any and all shops can offer
>game has an "infinite" amount of builds, but balance is so shit only 1-2 can even do anything against late stage enemies
>your ammo is scarce, but enemies never stop shooting. bonus points for them dropping exactly 1 ammo to spite you
>game has the "lower your hp the more dmg you do" style ability but the damage buff is total dogshit even at 1 hp
>flamethrower is shit
Honestly I could go on and on about random retarded shit devs put in vidya. Sprinting of any kind using stamina and turning the game into a shitty 10 second sprint, 5 second crawl loop is one of the worst fucking things known to mankind.

>>714195338 (OP)
Do you want to know why I appreciate Nintendo? Because BotW, TotK, and most of there other shit is literally just "Push A to instantly pickup ".

No fuss, no time wasting animations, no padding, no bullshit. You push A on the apple and you pickup the apple instantly. Do you know why I hate the piss out of RDR2, Mad Max, and most other "modern" games? BECAUSE THE FUCKING GOD DAMN DOUBLE NIGGERS ATTACH 5 SECOND LONG PICKUP ANIMATIONS TO EVERYTHING!

30 SECOND FUCKING FIGHTS FOLLOWED BY 2-5 MINUTES OF LOOTING, AND IN RDR2's CASE THAT IS ONLY ONE "small" TIME WASTER IN A SEA OF OTHER TIME WASTERS! I DARE YOU TO TAKE OUT A STOP WATCH AND FIND OUT HOW LONG RDR1 TAKES TO MOUNT A HORSE COMPARED TO RDR2, BECAUSE HOLY JESUS IT MUST BE A 1.5s AFFAIR NEXT TO A 6s ONE!

AND THE WHORESONS WILL ACTUALLY FELLATE THESE ANIMATIONS OF TIME WASTING! DO I LOOK LIKE A MAN WHO WANTS TO INDIVIDUALLY CUT EVERY FUCKING BULLET IN CAMP RDR2?!

>>714227093
stop posting my wife

>>714226702
RE4

>>714215182
Imo ng+ is better inclusion than postgame in any linear game. Because the game is already designed and now you can add challenge/wacky shit on top instead of making new levels/bosses for very few people. I'd rather ride the same ride again but with new wrinkles, than go into designated autismo minmaxer zones that are detached from the game that I liked.
That's mostly speaking about borderlands 2

>pick up an item
>Get over burden
You mean I can carry 300 pounds of items, but 301 is too much?

>>714227093
This is the same reason Rune Factory 3 / 4 are the best farm sims
>can chop a stump 12 times, pick up all the wood pieces, warp home and throw them in the lumber pile all in <10 seconds
>meanwhile every other game has a 1-second chop animation, 1-second pickup animation, 5-second warp animation, etc
And don't even get me started on fishing

>>714226992
>"lower your hp the more dmg you do"
Ontop of being mediocre buffs, you have health mechanics in a game so not everything is a one hit ko, this is useful because you are usually playing a game for the first time, and can't fucking predict everything
>>714227443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_that_broke_the_camel%27s_back
i agree with you, it just turns into menu maths

>video game is too video gamey
Faggot thread.

>difficulty only changes enemies' health and damage values
>they still use the exact same tactics

>>714195503
It it has an animation can be kino.

>>714226634
Classic Final Fantasy was always weird about this. Every item is jumbled up until you click to sort them. But you can only sort them one way in most games. Wouldn't it have just been easier to program them to take up their assigned slots automatically?

>>714207709
>Spamming roll or dash allows you to move around faster than simply running.
Every Zelda game

>>714207949
Maybe try playing it with a friend

>>714218126
>telepathically hone in on your location
I FUCKING HATE HOW COMMON THIS IS
The only games I can think of that did this right was splinter cell blacklist, that straight up shows you where you were last spotted, and MGSV
GRW was especially egregious about this shit.
I remember shooting an explosive tank out of detection range, the compound going on alert and all of those fucking sicarios just start a fucking conga line directly towards me.
HOW
ALL THEY FUCKING KNOW IS SOMETHING EXPLODED

>>714195503
Dynamic, emergent gameplay that forces me to adapt on the fly? No, just let me unga bunga with my favorite OP weapon til I win. KYS

>>714227160
Counter argument.

>Hardest difficulty is tuned with unlockable weapons in mind
>Said weapons make it trivial
Fuck RE8

>>714228538
you're just using marketing speak. it explains nothing.

in almost no cases do breakable weapons introduce any actual gameplay depth.
all it does is make you unable to have a favourite weapon and force you to engage with meaningless mechanics that waste time and only exist to "solve" a problem that was created by making weapons breakable in the first place

>>714195338 (OP)
Different tiers of storage boxes. There is absolutely nothing I hate more than inventory management, and locking convenience behind progression is annoying as Hell.

>>714228561
you cant do that. SOMEONE STOP HIM

>>714200146
>Link the first flame
>Steal the flame, leave them niggas in darkness and shiiiiiet
The duality of the un-kindle one

>>714206445
ProJared™ kinda cute desu

>>714228756
>"Oh youl favoulite mace bloke? Too BAD! Pray with shitty daggel untir you leach next virrage, white PIG!"

The game taking away my control of the camera to call attention to shit only a baby fresh out of their alcoholic mothers womb would fail to notice

>countless copies of same equipment at different levels
>randomized stats and perks
>none, or no easy way to to grind enemies for the materials involved

>>714228561
Nice.

puzzles in horror games

>>714224309
Athlete's aren't known for intelligence.

>>714214206
Ng+ But you can't adjust anything so the becomes a slog, looking at you chrono trigger/smt IV/ etc.
Worse yet some devs want to be meta smart asses and have an ending where you delete your save file, they're only doing that since I'm pass the refund point.

>>714195338 (OP)
>Game Freak
>they go out of their way to nerf pokemon that didn't need to be nerfed, even low tier mons, and let shit like flutter mane in the game
>leafeon lost iron tail in gen8
>hawlucha lost tailwind in gen8

>>714206759
Even better, the game not only needs a separate account, but its own launcher to play/update the game.

>>714204251
sprinting in video games is just faster jogging, not running as fast as you can.

>>714228756
Breakable weapons you can repair by dismantling other equipment / scraps that has a exponential scaling value loss (as in it takes significantly more to repair the more it's broken / lower durability) would absolutely have gameplay depth and you'll either sacrifice more valuables to keep using your one gun or spend less repairing 2-4 other guns that took more spread out durability damage.

Hell you don't even need them to break at that point, making 1% durability the lowest it goes with big ole downsides like damage/jamming/non-functional addons/ect with a massive repair cost would do it. You'd just need either vendor repairs (at an additional cost) or workbenches be the very few places you can repair your guns at.

>>714205940
Agreed desu
Same thing with hunger mechanics that are just "open menu to food, click eat"
it's boring.
If my character had to actually sit down and have a fucking meal that'd at least be interesting

>>714195338 (OP)
>running costs stamina EXCLUSIVELY outside of combat

>>714230463
Only Females(female) can be witches, sorry anon.

>>714217359
Is that image from something anon, I feel some weird desire to know and it's bothering me.

>>714230091
pokemon balancing has been a nightmare and a complete shit show since day 1
its the worlds most profitable and mistreated game series. its got all this fucking money and it just gets worse. I honestly cant even pity the people who tough it out, they are worse than sonic fans

>>714197345
>All merchants sell gear that is worthless a couple hours into the game
>They also have no money so you can't even sell them anything
Looking at you Starfield.

>>714204251
fat fuck 400lbs i can sprint for 5 secs waited 3 secs and did it again im coming for your title faggot

>>714230628
name 1 game

>>714230525
nta but i dunno man.

if i had to choose between annoying mechanic that makes me waste a few seconds and annoying mechanic that forces me to do nothing, id pick the former still

>>714230463
nah this shit is cool. PSO (not 2) did it well
classes were inteded to have different playstyles entirely.

gender locked weapons, race locked weapons, and class locked weapons, and characters had unique animations for general weapons that overlap.
and some different base stats but that was the least interesting part if you can believe it.

>>714231020
i think in mass effect 1 and maybe also 2, the sprint would empty quicker when not in combat missions.

or at least it felt like it because distances between points of interests are shorter on combat missions

having an infinite sprint mod is mandatory for the trilogy imo

>>714195338 (OP)
game made around counters
I think its such stupid shit

>>714195338 (OP)
>rewind feature
>fixed rng

>>714196256
>>starting weapons are the best in the game
nioh 2 the starting gift souls things are just the best by far

>>714204251
>state champion sprinter
in alabama?

>>714230986
the economy in starfield was so fucking busted lol what were they up to

>>714223124
how to get any gun in stalker gamma
>find guy with cool gun
>save
>kill guy and loot gun
>if barrel is above 60% keep gun and talke to various techs for the parts that can be sloted out while using a ramrod to repair the gun
>if barrel is below 60% reload save and kill guy again gun parts are loaded when they die so its rng every save

>>714228538
>that forces me to adapt on the fly?
nobody does this
if you're unprepared you either run away or just pull out a random weapon you picked up at some point
if you're prepared you just pull out a copy of the weapon that broke and then fix both when you get back to a town
pulling out a random weapon is not a meaningful adaptation and repairing your shit between fights is just a minor chore

>>714204678
Quasimorph. You can loot every enemy corpse and steal their armor and weapons (and limbs and organs).

>>714195920
people keep bringing this up for BotW but I don't remember ever once going out of my way to get new weapons, the game is easy as fuck already that you can beat it with any shit weapon and you pick stuff up all the time just playing organically. There's plenty of other flaws to pick at but this one never made sense to me.

>no Doug button
Come on

>>714231529
I think if you account for the price of a sandwich ingame, merchants have at most about 500 USD, which is nonsensical because they sell fucking railguns, lasers and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

>>714230463
Name 3 games that do this or stfu

>>714195965
I also prefer this type of waypoint, only put them in major hubs

>>714196256
lol I remember my roommate forcing himself to use new weapons and seething at me hacking through the game with the axe

>>714232441
Its true that there is plenty to pick up, but most of it is trash that only has enough durability to take out maybe 2 guys before you gotta switch. The constant scramble of breaking and finding gets very tedious mid fight, particularly if you are the not the most prepared. Its mostly an end game problem.

>>714196806
>NPC you’re supposed to follow does not move at your walking or running pace but somewhere inbetween
this gets the most on my nerves, Rockstar games are the worst for this

>>714232834
I guess you could see it that way, I personally liked just playing with whatever trash I picked up. It does make 'legendary' weapons seem pointless though, I don't think I even tried to craft a single one across both games.

>>714195338 (OP)
ads

>>714204678
Todd might be a lying bastard but he isn't a cheat when it comes to looting rights. If you see an enemy wearing power armor it's yours. Providing you can skin him fast enough without damaging the goods. Jury Rigging makes the whole thing even better when you find out that cross referencing T-51b with some cheap scrap armor is a money maker.

this thread proves /v/ is a bunch of retards

>>714198990
For this reason and others New Horizons to me was the antithesis of comfy and I have no idea how so many normalfags got roped into thinking they were having fun while playing it.

>>714233219
this guy LOVES
- unskippable unpausable cutscenes
- logging in into separate service when you launch the game
- NPCs that walk slower than you
what a RETARD

>Game released in 2001
>Recommend OS & hardware: Windows 2001 and a GeForce 2
>FF 24 years
>Game rereleased on Hot Water Vapor Online Internet Store for Gamers
>Game hasn't been patched or updated or modified in 24 years
>bare minimum OS & hw to run Game: Windows 2025 and RTX 2080

>>714206595
>rockstar game
>have to deliberately drive/ride slowly to hear the whole pre-mission dialogue

>>714195338 (OP)
>body type 1
>body type 2
>body type 3

>>714196759
>>714234317
wtf

>>714234349
this guy in picrelated is such a character

>>714197932
bullshit mechanic in survival games, just make it so eating heals lost health so good players don't get punished

>>714234119
>slightly go off course or take a shortcut
>*npc interrupts dialogue* "DO YOU HAVE A SINGLE CLUE WHERE YOU'RE GOING?!?!" "ARE YOU TRYING TO GET US KILLED?!?!" "WHERE ARE YOU TAKING US?!?"

>>714203020
This, was playing Deltarune Chapter 3 and didn't know you needed to S rank the first game or buy an S rank to fucking fight the secret boss. There was zero indication either so once I dumped a couple hours in I was fucked as is.

>>714215226
>build your character as full support or ranged
>game separates you from the rest of party and forces you into a 1v1

>>714215226
Aerith in FF7, please, hang yourself.

>>714221291
>>714221589
>>714222016
Fable

>>714222978
terraria

>>714195887
item limitations are pretty weird to me. I understand the realism factor, but if I have hammerspace for 999 potions because they stack, but I can't hold more than 10 individual items, that's some retarded nonsense.
>your inventory can hold exactly 50 of literally anything, regardless of shape, size, or weight
>51 specks of dust is too many, fuckboi

>superboss drops a fuck ton of XP and overpowered gear just for nothing to use it on
Oh c'mon, at least lemme refight it or add a training dummy or something. Why give me cool shit I can't use or that instakills everything when they breathe the wrong way? Let me feel the strength of the weapon.

>>714195338 (OP)
>Game has an in-universe manual saving mechanic
>It isn't activated for at least half an hour so you can't quit out until then
Damn near filtered me from fucking Nier when it turned out that dying in the first level puts you all the way back at the start again.

>>714235361
I was thinking the Suikoden games, but sure.

>game requires you to backtrack multiple times to a specific location several times over the course of the story
>it's as far removed from the nearest teleport / checkpoint as possible to maximize wasting your time even though there's no risk going to said location

>>714198765
Nah, this is kino as fuck
>B-B-B-BUT SHOTGUNS DON'T REALLY WORK LIKE TH-
Don't care, mutt

>>714210195
>game hasn't given any freebies since I started
>alright fine, guess I'll just finally upgrade myself
>here's your freebies now :^)

>>714195491
Marcus pls

>>714197909
Doubt they've fixed it but in born of bread if you do this it'll go to the last item showing on the page. Then you have to continue scrolling down anyways.

>>714234174
>game's overworld has a really shitty camera angle
>early in the game, you have to find a small fishing town that's tucked away in a corner of the continent to reach another location to progress the story
>however, said game also put in a way to reach the place you need to go after the town on foot, so there's a high chance you'll stumble on that path first before finding said village because of the camera angle's viewpoint
>game suddenly ramps up in difficulty but the enemies are still possible to beat, so you progress trying to find the village after going through bug hell
>end up progressing into an even harder zone and the story actually reflects the fact that you didn't go to the town
>replay the same game years later and actually do the intended story route
>mfw the game is 20000000000% easier and you actually miss out on some important lore if you don't do it this way

>>714238158
WHAT'S THE GAME

>>714238289
mario's picross

>tutorials for EVERYTHING even though you'd figure it out in like 2 seconds
>can't turn it off

>>714195338 (OP)
This one's kind of autistic but
>Want to slow walk for drama, ie through an aesthetic area or towards a boss
>Game doesn't just have "tilt the stick all the way for jog, tilt it a little for slow walk" but an extremely granular speed progression depending on how far you push the stick
>Too little and your character walks like they're on the moon, too much and they virgin jog
>Have to feel out the perfect slow walk speed and then rest my palm against the stick to keep it perfectly still and maintain that speed

>>714238289
Tales of fucking Symphonia

>>714238956
Oh that's cool it looks like ni no kuni i might play it

>>714202974
>Close shop menu to go and get more cash
>Unique item you accidentally sold is immediately vaporized

>>714206759
>Steam profile is separate from games launcher so you can't transfer saves

Fuck you Albion Online.

>mod adds "realism" or advertises itself as a "total overhaul"
>its completely immersion breaking and bloats the game
>overtakes the original in popularity to the extent that people only talk about the mod and not the original

fuck you anomaly i want my stalker back

>>714232784
anon the axe is literally the worst weapon, the saw cleaver beats it in every way

>>714198272
>Game has stamina bar
>Enemies can attack endlessly without breaks

>>714204678
>Has there ever been a single game bold enough to always just give you the equipment that you can clearly see the enemy is wearing
skyrim
and for some reason no dev ever did this

>>714195887
>you were supposed to pick up the item because it triggers an ambush that opens the way out
This is always shit regardless of the item. My instinct when problem solving is not to go pick up every piece of bullshit I don't need that I missed in the area.

>there's two routes ahead
>one is clearly the big open main path straight ahead
>the other is a little passage to the side
>check out the side path to fully explore the map
>realize I've just gone through the main path and I may or may not be able to backtrack and if I can its likely going to be pointless yet I still try

>>714240184
I love Nocturne but it does this a hell of a lot.

>>714238868
I get you anon. I want to slow walk too but my controller is a bit broken and my character keeps twitching left to right, unable to walk straight.

>>714238158
But on the other hand, you get best girl earlier.

jrpg has an enemy type you deal 1/10th the normal damage to for some reason. it has very low hp to compensate.

>>714195338 (OP)
lil bro is too cute.

>>714196256
>we have ten billion weapons!
>to take a gamble and use something that isn't an objectively good starting weapon you'll need to invest half a million in cash and half the upgrade materials in the game into it, yeah, why'd you ask
Fromsoft's approach to gear is inane.

>powerful boost activates when a certain ammount of things are collected
>no you can't manually activate it, oh also the boost is permanent

>>714214157
You know what, you're right. I don't think there's a single game I've ever played where durability made the game better. At best it's a minor annoyance, at worst it makes the game way less fun.

>>714204251
State champion sprinter here. 400m (48.8)
NJCAA All American 4x800m (1:56 split)

A good pace can be held for more than 5 seconds. Just for shits and giggles I have run with a gun and gear when hunting to see how long a guy can move hastily like a vidya operator and it's very doable, even in pasture land.

>>714214157
worked good in New Vegas IMO. That way cheaper firearms / smaller calibers were useful for less lethal enemy mobs.

FO4 did away with it and you'd end up using only 3 guns a whole playthrough because that one special quest reward gun never broke and it made everything else obsolete.

>>714239896
Is that really the consensus opinion? I always felt that Axe was easy mode, you just charge it up and clip through everything. Maybe Bloodborne is just too easy in the first place I guess

>>714195920
>>714232441
>>714232959
I just don't get why they couldn't implement a repair system. Without it, using rare weapons feels bad, and cool-looking yet fragile weapons really suck cause you're limited on inventory slots. Another nice thing would have been when a weapon breaks, instead of disappearing it becomes an unusable item in your inventory. You could either drop it it's something you don't care about, or hold onto it if you do until you can repair it later.

I could make a lengthy diatribe about why I really dislike the BOTW item system and how just a few tweaks would have made it much better while maintaining the feel of the game they were going for.

>>714242035
Go for it anon

>>714215226
This is based, though. Your fault. Skill issue. Pay attention to your party members.

>>714196256
I beat both dead space games with just upgrades to the primary cutter gun and honestly it felt so satisfying that there was no reason to every change into anything else. It's ability to fire vertical/horizontal from a tap of the button was satisfying as hell.

>>714218421
>You really liked the concept of the first game but didn't really vibe with how the progression worked?
>We made a second game that is more to your taste, even though it pisses off the original fanbase. And it has way prettier graphics, too!
I love you, Red Hook. I haven't even installed the Kingdom mode and the Beast guy yet.

>>714195836
the lady doth protest too much

>>714195503
>Dead Island
>Witcher 3
>Death Stranding
>Minecraft
Literally the worst part of these games. Deadrising at least handles it well because there’s always a surplus of weapons to at least defend yourself at all times, but holy shit, fuck having to run back to your base just to repair/replace the one and only weapon or equipment you’re given that’s worth half a fuck

>>714229720
>athlete's
neither are you

>>714206161
Graze might be the single most retarded skill they ever added to that game.
>But launch Body Expertise!!
Only ever worked on the crossbows because they're set to full auto mode for some reason.

>>714210465
It's like the one Disney film from the 2000s I still watch

>the protagonist is the only one that is capable of solving basic tasks while NPCs sit around or get occupied with something else
>in the in-game universe, you have a ton of allies/an entire military or backup force, but they never show up to help you ever, or if they do they might as well have not shown up

>>714219701
First thing that came to mind.

>>714195338 (OP)
>Item doesn't tell you anything about what it does, and you're expected to alt-tab and check a wiki to know

>>714195338 (OP)
>Walking talking section in a monster hunter game

>inventory items displayed as icons you can barely make out, only shows names when highlighting item
>have to scroll though each one individually to find whatever is needed to progress

>>714243932
>walk and talk section in any game
really. i was so glad when i realised almost all of them were treated like skippable cutscenes in REmake 4.

with every RE release im scared they will fuck up a potentially awesome game with shit that kills pacing

>>714244112
source on that whore

>>714244112
nu-zelda is the worst for this
>need raw prime meat to cook some meal
>have to check all 20 meat icons to find the right one
then totk doubled-down on it and made this abomination of a menu

>>714244282
Your mother

>>714244112
>multiple items share the exact same icon

>>714195338 (OP)
>Nippon devs make a fun game then ruin it with most blandest UI possible

>>714244282
the makeup store, holy shit

>no skill refund
>noob traps everywhere
>community start blaming players for catching up to the bullshit and looking up guides
Fucking old MMOs, no wonder world of warcraft crushed them all.

>game with a lot of builds, easy to fuck up or make a scuffed build
>no way to reset points, so you're basically obligated to look up a guide or have to start a new character

I will always be grateful for Grim Dawn for allowing you to reset points whenever and being very flexible when it comes to builds. Though you can't reset classes, but any class combination is viable for ultimate mode anyway

>>714221291
that's kino

>>714195965
zoom zoom

>>714195338 (OP)
>resource management game
>limited inventory space
>collect 250 of rare material, inventory at 250/300
>need to build something 100 from common material
>no way to spend/drop/discard rare material outside of using it
>only object that can be built requires 200 rare material and 100 common material
fuck u alters

You guys need to stop playing RPGs. No wonder you're so angry all the time.

>>714246446
RPGs dont make me angry. 6v6 multiplayer games do.

>commit a crime
>guards/cops magically appear out of thin fucking air

Stop this shit already

Being forced to play some stupid shitty mini-game in order to progress with the game.

>>714246830
Like, in a visual novel or?

>>714196256
>>714240803
Nailed it, it's turbo cringe design

>>714205497
That's the dumbest complaint i've seen so far.

>>714195338 (OP)
Even worse is slowing you down in combat, looking at grounded specifically. Also, >>714195491 kill yourself in a painful way.

>>714196493
Gitgudfaggot

>>714232603
Borderlands 1, 2, 3.
And like every 90s-00s ARPG

>>714231375
>CK2
>The outcomes of some event chains (that are long and full of '''''choices''''') are determined before you even get the prompt to start said event chains.

>>714195836
these people probably weren't even thinking of BOTW.
BUT LOL isn't it funny how BOTW has all the worst design ideas in 1 game so it made you think of it.

>>714244715
kek

>>714218770
I hate this fucking dickhead like you wouldn't believe
>Go to an actual blacksmith
>99% success rate
>literally 100x the cost
When are they making Mabinogi 2, the game's too fucking bloated now

>ye olde gloves of faggotry
>+6 body armor, 328 denars
>ye olde gloves of slightly less faggotry
>+8 body armor, 52,864 denars

>>714246830
>nintendo coin in DK64

>>714224949
>NPC decides to brief you when you're in the middle of battle
I can't really pay attention right now you stupid bot.

>>714195836
>OOTsnoys seething at this post after being outed for their "subtle" anti-BOTW propaganda shitposting

>>714205095
you do know that vanquish lets you skip the talking then lets you run again, right?

>>714218126
Ghost recon 1 was near perfect though.

>>714209768
For real?

>>714216679
I had a shit build on him and couldn't beat final-Seymour, so I never finished the game

>>714246830
Not a big yakuza fan I'm gusting
>>714218126
>Game makes you stop playing the game to play an entirely different, worse game.
fuck yakuza 5 man

>>714195338 (OP)
Invisible walls. Why do these mother fuckers STILL use invisible walls in the current year.

>>714200548
He had just two bullets left when you killed him.

>>714232603
Every Fire Emblem game pretty much

>>714203020
>>714234770
That's how life works.

>>714195338 (OP)
>menus don't wrap around (i.e. pressing down on the lowest option doesn't bring you back to the top option)

>30 hours into game
>tutorial tips still popping up at random

>game has headshot mechanics
>enemies do not stand still and are constantly bobbing their heads around or just generally moving really fast so it's functionally impossible to headshot them

>>714235464
Because each slot in your inventory is tracked by an element in an array in a save file somewhere on your PC. Having more unique items would actually take up more space (for your hard drive)

>>714195503
>shit feels like it either breaks in 5 seconds or durability lasts so long it might as well not be in the game

>>714242002
he's incorrect, Axe charged R2 is actually fucking ez mode

>>714199224
you're a half-assed measure

>>714196806
this a real v oldfag

>>714213929
>im ready to settle down

Bad moderation? looking at you, ss13

>>714216445
>spend your limited stat points on meme stat
>still do the same (shit thanks to minmaxed stats) damage on average due to both extremes widening at the same rate
>worse, as you reach the point where you can normally kill certain enemies in one hit, there is now a chance to do fuckall instead
what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>714235303
It's ok, she got hers in the end.

>>714244836
>mfw retarded 13 year old playing a mage in maplestory
>handful of STR
>maxed out the shitty attack, then was told to max the good attack so I didn't max the only defensive buff mage got
>maxed out the useless holy arrow skill as cleric
>never make it past level 50 because I physically can't survive
>only option is to remake my year old character because I irreversibly fucked it

>>714195836
botw was dogshit, and i'm tired of pretending it wasn't

>>714253413
>you pet companion can fly

>>714195503
why cant someone just come up with a new durability mechanic that actually changes what everyone hates about it?

just my idea
>durability isnt a short term thing where your weapon breaks with little investment, its now a long term thing with lots of investment
>your gear can be very well mantained for like 10-30~% better stats. Getting it to that state is costly, but it stays that way for a pretty nicely long time, like a good long expedition or two, unless you come across some hazard that fucks your durability a-la DS2
>your gear can be in average maintenance, it has normal stats but it takes a really long while to degrade into poorly mantained
>after a really long time of poor treatment it eventually reaches a crappy state where its at 70-80~% of its effectiveness, its perfectly fine and usable but you probably dont want this to happen and would rather invest a reasonable ammount so it stays at a medium level instead
This fixes the issue of people complaining about it being a boring repetitive timewaste that adds nothing to the game as its always too cheap without anything interesting involved, you fixed the issue of it being frequent enough as to get on the way of entertainment, and you added a mechanic that many players actually enjoy instead of having more fun if it was removed, you added more potential for interesting bonuses, generic dumb bonuses like "infinite durability/cant be repaired/etc" become more interesting, and so on
If people find issues with that then at least youre fucking going somewhere, instead of making the exact same dogshit mechanic that has been done for years and years

>>714251507
I've never encountered a item limit on PC games, usually old RPGs on cartridges. how much space can each unique item take? Why not limit the amount of unique items to reflect the limitation of the hard drive space? If I can only hold 20 unique things and there's 100 different items, that's equally retarded

>>714195338 (OP)
>714195338
>Game has so much padding and back tracking it goes from a 10 hour game to a 30 hour game.

>>714251507
i really dont think the size of your inventory is much of a concern for savefiles in most of these games. whoever made them just thought it worked better that way
iits also compatible with storing items as a single entry of an array with a number attached to it indicating how much you have. Like 6 separate medkits in your inventory could just be a structure like 'medkit, 6'
if its one of these games that have a grid-like inventory, you could have a separate string or a sequence of numbers that represents how stuff is organized in it

>>714195338 (OP)
>Beating the game creates a new game+ type of file system which prevents you from 100%ing the game because a hidden file is only able to be found on a fresh brand new game.

>>714198272
I love Battle Brothers but the fact that you can't run enemy archers out of ammo is some pretty serious bullshit. MY guys run out of ammo.

>PC has 2tb+ free space
>even consoles have 1tb hdd as standard
>game has max of 30 save slots
make it make sense

>>714248670
it's been 5 years since I played it but I'm pretty sure the walk n talk parts are unskippable and they switch you to first person for some reason. there's only a couple of them at least.

>>714254707
>game has max of 30 save slots
>trying to save again shows "no free slots, delete a save first"
>need to do the scroll of shame to the bottom of the list to delete the oldest one manually

>>714195338 (OP)
>coins have weight
why...WHY?!?!?!?!

>>714206932
Mana poison, weapons enchanted with drain magicka and shock spells work very well at gimping enemy mages though

The main problem is they all have enchanted robes which add like 50% max magicka to their already high pool and their AI will always reserve enough for a spell so you need to take it from them

>>714195338 (OP)
>Missable items (i.e. you can't return to a previous area to collect and item that you missed)
Thankfully most modern games have stopped doing this and let you revisit all the previous areas or moved the item spawn location if you missed them in an area you can't go back to.

>>714255283
>most modern games
looking at you, BG3

>>714210195
In tainted grail i spwnt most of my money purchasing and upgrading a claymore, just for a unique greatsword to drop from a bandit bounty target which had more base damage, stamina back on kill qnd just as cheap to upgrade as the non-uniquw

>>714224309
It's an anime postin' retard.
He just really wanted attention.

>>714214985
Borderlands is basically just diablo as an fps, its almost more ARPG than it is FPS because builds matter a lot, almost more than guns

>>714195338 (OP)
>>714197009
>characters huffs loudly and obnoxiously after sprinting for like 5 seconds for "le immersion"
>no option to mute it aside from muting all SFX

>>714195338 (OP)
>open world game
>stamina gets emptied in three seconds
I'm a fatass and even I can sprint longer than the Arisen in DD2.

>>714206759
This got me to immediately drop Overwatch 2.

>>714232603
Any eastern game.

>>714255992
>make female
>endless moaning
Oh yeah it's gamer time

>entire skilltree/gear sets for sniping
>every encounter is <30yd away

>>714203310
>play two games that use the same language for item descriptions
>"increases slightly" means +2% in one and +20% in the other
Ah gee I wonder why people turn into excel sheet sweats.

>>714204251
I'm happy you found a hobby that utilizes your body and not your lacking brain.

>tutorial ends
>walk two steps
>cutscene starts
>"OH! And one more thing!..."

>>714206759
back in the day you had to physically insert a disc just to install the game AND THEN it needed its own shortcut just so you could open it, but somehow accounts are too much for you dumb faggots, you don't even need to patch the games your fucking selves anymore, you're so spoiled it's pathetic

>>714255160
>tfw i pick up a penny on the road and can no longer move
Feels bad man

>>714232603
PoE

>>714207473
This, I remember back when I was a wee kid when it got released I met this regular skeleton enemy wielding this sick ice sword which he dropped on death. It was like a revelation to me.

>>714198765
>bonus points if the sniper rifles
>can only ever realistically be used inside 100 meters
>have excessively pronounced muzzle sway/bullet drop
this is the highest bullshit you can find in shooters. Specially when the sniper rifles are the only weapon in the game with bullet drop.

>>714195503
most of the time they have the durability of a worst quality plastic weapon

>>714196256
ludwig sword isnt a sidegrade its the highest dps number quality weapon

>>714232603
any game that features a valkyrie or amazon

>>714196493
stranger of chaos got the perfect solution for that(break guard/poise bar) besides fromsoft adding rollcatch combos to enemies

>>714195338 (OP)
>player have limits due to stamina
>bosses no

>>714198483
fuck it gonna replay it and get a save cause i dont want to deal with barry and the girl revisiting maps

>>714260309
>Boss can regen health even if it hit your shield that absorb all the damage

>You get her rune and its a crappy rally version

Elden cringe rune system sucks only godrick / morgot are good runes, also malenia its a joke if you remove her regen gimmick and its already fair against shields cause second phase rot

>>714256131
yup also the retarded not healing wounds with potions cause some faggots complained it make the game easy chugging potions so you get bonfire but also that can fuck you in the gay endgame world

>>714195503
I’m still mad New Horizons golden tools are breakable
What’s the fucking point then?

>>714199224
>nor gives the full benefit of easy fast travel
No game should ever give you the full benefits of fast travel. It's basically "journalism mode" but for travel

>>714195338 (OP)
>NPC presents a question
>There's options: Yes, No
>They do the exact same thing
WHY EVEN ASK ANYTHING IN THE FRST PLACE.
DON'T GIVE ME A POINTLESS CHOICE YOU FUCKING RETARDED CHIMP.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

>>714195491
(You)

>>714195632
This. It dosnt add to the realism it just serves to make the player fast travel to drop shit off.
>hurr durr stop hoarding!
How about suck my dick faggot? I wouldnt pick everything up if it weren't for multiple games cucking you out of special items for not grabbing shit out of single crevice of the game.

>>714197731
>but certain powers completely ignore this special defense because ???????
what the FUCK were gungeon devs thinking?

>>714260887
>the retarded not healing wounds with potions cause some faggots complained it make the game easy chugging potions
why are you blaming people complaining about a bland system, and not an incompetent developer making something even shittier?

>>714198272
durability systems are retarded when you cant maintain your gear by yourself

>>714196806
>>lose relations with an NPC if you ask them if they have jobs but then decline to do it because it would be too far out of your way or skillset
This shit pisses me off the most.
>Oh you want a job do ya? Go and kill these fifty high level enemies while your best weapon is a rusty spoon
>Can't do it? Always knew you were a fag, get out of my sight
Jesus man I just wanted to slay a few goblins.

>>714195503
Git gud.

>>714217103
All you need

>>714195503
Git
Gud.

>>714262520
>game tells you "choices matter"
>choices presented have absolutely no path diverging instances

>>714255065
>game has a max of 3 save slots
>used to have infinite slots
>look up why
>saving the game creates another copy of the ENTIRE 50GB GAME and puts it in another folder
>people kept complaining about the crazy memory usage and saves corrupting
>so the devs made it save like a normal game and gave you 3 save slots
>jk saving still redownloads an entire copy of the game, they just limit you to 3 because past that is when things get fucked

>>714265406
what in the god damn
which game?

>>714265406
how do you even DO that and not IMMEDIATELY realize something went wrong the first or second time it happens during testing

>>714265551
I think it was a Paradox game. Littlelamp league or some shit.

>>714265551
dragon ligma 2