What's the best one? Where do I start?

>>714195583 (OP)
Xenosaga.

Just play 1 and call it a day. If you absolutely have to play another one, play X.

>>714195583 (OP)
>best one
either 2 or 3 (with its DLC)

>start
Xenoblade 1 or depending on what you want out of the series xenogears

>>714195791
X has both worse gameplay and a signficantly worse story than any of the numbered games. Its claim to fame is its world design which isn't enough to make up for its other shortcomings

>>714195583 (OP)
I started 1 last night and I am loving it. Which is strange because I bought 2 years ago and hated it. Guess tastes change.

>>714196001
I was under the impression i should start with X for some reason

>>714196176
If you want to start with the most inconsequential one then sure it's a good start

>>714196001
So would you say it's not a bad idea to grab the 2+Torna bundle while they are on sale?

>>714195583 (OP)
Xenogears. And take in that soundtrack. For me, it's Yasunori Mitsuda's best.

>>714196001
>or 3
No.

>>714196278
Absolutely do NOT pass up on peak fiction while it's on sale. I'd say grab them all if you can

>>714196278
If I were you I'd play one first before deciding to move on with the others but Nintendo's sales are shit so if you want to save money now then go ahead

>>714195583 (OP)
1DE, 2, 2T, 3, XDE

>>714195583 (OP)
X is the best but they're all masterpiece tier.

2 is the only bad entry.
Torna is fucking great though

>>714195583 (OP)
Start with 1, then go wherever you want with the rest of the series.
>1 - starts great, ends great
>X - starts kino, ends great, then ends another time just okay
>2 - starts okay, ends great
>Torna - starts good, ends good
>3 - starts good, gets great, ends fucking horrendously
>Future Redeemed - starts good, ends good

3 is the only bad entry.
Future Redeemed is fucking great though

>>714196826
This is a useful post.

>>714196826
Weird to recommend someone play 3, because it relies heavily on knowledge of 1 & 2.

>>714196826
1's second half is atrociously bad, especially after Mechonis Heart. 3's last dungeon is kind of a slog (but not as bad as 1) but the final boss is the best of the series. The actual ending cinematic of all 4 games is great

3 is just so damned good. They're all amazing, but 3 is just so special

>>714197250
3's base game doesn't require anything from 1 and 2

>>714196826
>FR's ending only good when X's is great
no

>>714197780
3 is the worst one retard.

>>714197530
>the final boss is the best of the series.
Z is trash, kys

>>714196001
>2
No.

>>714198337
You are allowed to have an incorrect opinion. It's the best in my book, and no amount of tears will convince me otherwise

>>714198436
You just have shit taste then.

>>714198474
May the gods above smite me down for enjoying my entertainment

>>714198550
Retard.

>>714198384
Z is easily the most fun final boss of the series that actually makes you apply all your mechanics, plus I love the [all the sidequest characters you completed will join you against the final boss when things get desperate] mechanic. The coolest shit ever.

>>714198384
t. Died mid Z∞ and had a hissy fit

>>714198602
Z is complete dogshit. He has like 4 phases with no saves in between and a late phase has an unfair 1 hit party wide KO move.

>>714198602
meh, 1 and 2 both have more more impactful finales.

The Xenoseries needs more brown characters with silver hair that know way more than they first let on.
Sigurd, chaos, Alvis, and A aren't enough

The /vg/ refugee who fellates 3 is here

2+torna>3>1>X
They are all fantastic though.
Start with either 1 (mechanicly the worst so harder to get into after the others), or X as that one isn't really connected to the others.
While 3 can be played on its own just fine, a lot of references from the older games make it better.
Down to why the mountains look the way they do.

>>714198738
Is there a reason why you're trying to start spoiler discussions? OP hasn't even started the series.

>>714198685
t. has never played ANY boss fight in ANY other rpg.
Wake me up when you play FF4 on the DS and get softlocked. Or FF8 in Ultimecia's castle. Or when you fight Booker in Triangle Strategy. Or one of the bonus modes in a Castlevania game

>>714198963

>>714198685
cry more

There's just so many instances Mor Ardain or Torna or Indol conquering other Titans. Is there even enough people to fund the constant warfare in this game?

>>714199142

>>714199057
Prove me wrong. Safer Sephiroth has an attack that deals 95% HP to your whole team. You can fight all 4 phases of Kefka with only Celes, Edgar, and Setzer. Z is a breeze if you use your tools right

>>714199239

>>714199057
NTA but I feel you're arguing about different things. He's arguing final bosses should be challenging and require knowledge of mechanics, you're arguing final bosses should be easy and forgiving.

>>714199337

>>714199368
>should be challenging and require knowledge of mechanics
1 hit party-wide KOs are never a thing that's introduced prior to Z.

>>714195583 (OP)
XC3 + DLC
But 2 has the best waifu so my heart goes out to it.

>>714199368
Z doesn't really "require knowledge of mechanics" anymore than Klaus or Aion does.

>>714199440
Interestingly there's a divide in Gormott about how they look at their history. The younger generation don't begrudge the Ardanians for what happened 100(?) years ago and will even marry them. While the elder generation still hate the Ardainians and see them as occupying conquerors

>>714199510
>marry pyra
>fuck mythra
>kill mia

>>714196170
They’re two completely different kind of games, but I’d give 2 another chance as it really is a slowburn and doesnt pick up until youve cleared a good chunk of the story. Infamously slow start compared to the original

Why is XC3 getting shilled so hard recently?

>>714199474
>PROMETHEUS

>>714199727
It's a good game and the blatant haters are slipping

>>714199727
It's just from one or two idiots who hate XB2.

>>714199510
Pyra needs a hug stat

>>714199727
E-celebfags got tired of shitposting it and moved on.

>>714199831
>E-celebfags
Meds

>>714199801

>>714199831
2 is the one that's hated by e-celebs, retard.

>>714195583 (OP)
Start with 1 (og emulated on Dolphin, the remaster is shit).
Then play XCX or XB2 in whatever order.
Don't bother with 3, it's garbage.

Also: don't bother reading the "stories" of the sidequests, they suck in all games and holy shit they jack full if words words words.

>>714199801
So this line confused me because in the Torna DLC, we see Mythra only sink one Titan. But Morag says the Aegis sank three. So what's up with that?

>>714199889
The western Xenoblade fanbase is so cancerous

>>714199923
>remaster is shit
fixes the QoL disasters of the original (same with X DE)

>>714195583 (OP)
2 yes 2
2 or 3

xeno x is boring. like you literally have very interesting setting, and do nothing with it, just gathering some aliens.

1 i think is bad too but i dont know

Torna dlc is okay but literally i don't know why would anyone play it. "look there are some story about some people 500 years before the game but you know they all dead already." but combats are nice.

2 is very nice

>>714199948
Why are you posting spoilers in a thread where OP is asking where to start playing?

>>714199948
Pyra desperately needed to hear this

>>714199889
Delete this right now

>>714199948
The truth, then?
Malos sunk Coeia before Torna, Malos and Mythra sunk Torna, and Amalthus' forces sunk the third after Torna, but he blamed Mythra for all three by altering historical records

>>714198602
>Z is easily the most fun final boss of the series that actually makes you apply all your mechanics
like what, main character transforming into robot and pressing 2 skills? and then again?

>>714200050

>>714200113
Okay that makes sense

>>714200036
...I fucked up.

>>714199632
>not playing with the de-localization patch
Bitch pls.

>>714198963
Just because a boss in another game is bad doesn't suddenly make this boss good.
>unskippable cutscenes mid-battle
>game forces 3 chain orders back to back that don't do any damage as a part of the cutscenes
>the section where your party is split in two which could result in a wipe simply because you didn't know your party would be split up leaving you without a defender or healer on one side
>phases within the phases leading to situations where your chain attack stops doing damage because you hit the threshold for the next phase
>All is for the Future Connected (released on Nintendo Switch)!

Might be worth waiting to play them right now, as there's the chance the games could get some kind of performance patch on the Switch 2.
If you don't want to wait, play them in order, 1 -> 2 -> 3.
X can be played whenever.

>>714200259
yea, to play xc2 one surely need delocalisation patch, i don't know why some sucker just remaned every one of characters, towns, countries, and other stuff

such suckers, i don't even

>>714195583 (OP)
Play them in numerical order, with X either between 1 and 2 or after 3.

>>714199674
The perfect combo.

>>714200028
I don't really remember any QoL disasters in the OG.
But the remaster fucks the characters looks up and removes the different clothing experiences.
To this day it's the only game I know that actually remembers what clothes you wore for the flashbacks.

>>714200338
None of those bosses, including Z, are bad fights though. You literally break through the way of the world with sheer determination. It's intentional that you do no damage. YOU ARE FIGHTING AGAINST A CONCEPT.

>>714200561
>It's intentional that you do no damage. YOU ARE FIGHTING AGAINST A CONCEPT.
"It's bad on purpose!!!"
3tards sure love this excuse

>>714200532
Only secondaries care about how the remaster changed the character designs. Real Xenochads appreciate that they look way more like Kunihiko Tanaka characters.

>>714200532
>removes the different clothing experiences.
What does that even mean.
DE still has the outfit system and adds even more.

This is why being able to block IPs on eight chan dot moe was so nice

>>714200880
Didn't ask and don't care

>>714200561
The only thing I don't like about Zed is that his final form doesn't carry the Moebius Interlinked leitmotif. Actually his theme is quite good by itself but Moebius battle is the best track in the game and I was really hoping it would go into a third phase for the fight against literally Moebius.

>>714200880
Then leave and go back there, retard.

Reminder that Xeno 2 is so bad even the chad meathead character is fucking insufferable

Reminder that Xeno 3 is so bad even the protagonist character is fucking insufferable

>>714200997
Holy shit opinion.
Zeke is fucking BASED

>>714200997

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C26PFG3AH6w

>>714201245
Fuck off bot

Reminder that Xeno 1 is so bad even the chad tank character is fucking insufferable

>>714195791
FPBP
>>714195663
Also applicable.

>>714201245
OP is asking where to start the series, he didn't ask for some faggot Youtuber's """""analysis"""""""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kiKf-ErWOg

>>714195583 (OP)
3 is the best one.

>>714201407
It's literally a music video. Thanks for proving your incompetence at creating a concise argument for not even checking

>>714201529
I hate to break it to you but no one here even watched the faggy vidoe

>>714201529
Okay? OP didn't ask for some faggot Youtuber's music video either

>>714201441
>>714201245
Why are you like this?

>>714195583 (OP)
2 is the best one.

>the same exact posts for literal years
seriously why
the xde threads were a nice break but died too quickly and now it's back to the same gargbage again

>>714201781
It's funny to see people hating fun things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNrykT3eZKw

>>714201928
until the next game where actual discussions will outshine garbage shitposting, until it goes back to garbage shitposting
same as it ever was

>>714201928
You'll live

>>714202028
Why are you spamming random youtube links instead of answering OP's question?

>>714201928
Only have vague memories of X, didn't it have this major problem that as soon as you get the robot your entire build just didn't matter anymore?

>>714202109
I already did. Here >>714197780
https://youtu.be/Z-SA0aflQhk?si=bpkXQpLOWlu5iF4E

>>714202125
Kinda the opposite really.
Earlygame your ground combat build will likely be very weak, and such getting your Skell will feel like a giant power boost. However, once you actually try to optimize your ground combat, it'll shoot way, way past anything your mechs can achieve.

>>714201928
I'm just hear to talk about the game. But the other anon is right, I probably shouldn't post spoilers here

>>714202290
So what do these random youtube videos have to do with this thread?

>>714202319
But doesn't your build contribute literally nothing to the robot or am I remembering wrong, I just remember getting the robot and being told to go get a stupid amount of parts for it and stopped playing shortly after

>>714195583 (OP)
Chrono Trigger.

>>714195583 (OP)
Start with Xenoblade 1 Definitive Edition, it's got the simplest combat, the best tutorials and the story that's easiest to jump into blind.

Best one IMO is X, but they've all got their pros and cons, so your mileage may vary.

You can play them in any order, except for 3 and its DLC which you should play after finishing 1 and 2.

>>714202497
There's some special pieces of clothing that give stat boosts to the mech, but that's about it.
Aside from those, the stats of your ground build and your mech build are unconnected.

>>714195583 (OP)
wait for the switch 2 patch

>>714195583 (OP)
They can be played independently from each. Just pick the one you like the most.

>>714198685
What are you bitching about Both Klaus and Malos also had a OHKO bullshit move on late fight, Malo's one is considerably bullshit where you can only dodge it by pulling a lv4 special.

>>714195583 (OP)
here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mvQ1LYA6ug

>>714202657
Sounds about right, I always imagined the robot playing off the pilots skills but it basically asks to create an entire new build for every party member so fuck that

>>714202727
Fuck off bot

>>714197530
XB1 falls off the cliff as soon you reach Mechonis, is a good game but I had to force myself to finish it.

X and its pseudo MMO structure makes following a very straightforward plot a mess, Is like BotW/TotK where you can "accidentally" finish the game and feel nothing, not saying that is bad but it isn't good either.

I don't get how they make a game, trying to take Chrono Trigger's mechanics and putting them in such a beautiful 3D setting, so FUCKING boring.
I stopped with Xenoblade 1. I haven't gone back.

I don't know what it is with how the gameplay is implemented and the world, but it's just not engaging.
It's not the massive open world, I love BotW and Elden Ring. It's just how that open world is done and how the real time turn based gameplay is done. It just didn't click with me.

It looks STUNNING though and I can see why people like it, but it just misses for me.
Chrono Trigger is one of my fave games and I just don't understand why I don't enjoy Xenoblade. This game seems made for me and it just doesn't click.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy2Ac5stLwE

>>714195583 (OP)
They're more or less designed so you can play them in any order, but honestly, just do them in order. It works out better that way.

>>714203019
Fuck off bot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SfxXKx5KW0

>>714202963
To add:
A lot of the open world is just SUPER empty and the monsters in it are often very annoying to battle. I think that's why. There's a lot of npcs and quests that kinda just fuck around and do nothing though.
You can tell Xeno 1 is pre-botw.

The gameplay is clunky. It's not as streamlined as Chrono Trigger and it just doesn't click for me.
The adventure, at least up until the part I got to, just didn't keep me going with it.

There was just some magic in Chrono it just didn't have.

https://files.catbox.moe/2w2mfp.mp4

>>714203194
Fuck off bot

>>714195583 (OP)
The best one is xenoblade 2.
As for where to start, its xenoblade 1.
If you want to know what the worst ones are then its 3 and X.
For xenosaga the best one is episode 2
The worst one is episode 3
Obviously start on episode 1

>>714203398
By all logic I should dislike Malos but I swear I love this asshole. Especially when his voice actor starts losing his fucking mind

>>714202959
>XB1 falls off the cliff as soon you reach Mechonis
What chapter?
I stopped at the ether mine. I just had enough for some reason.

>>714203642
Especially once you know that David Menkin was on Thomas the Tank Engine

They're all pretty good except 2 which unironically has a gacha system so just read the synopsis before starting 3

>>714195583 (OP)
i like the blade games but none of them ever really topped Xenogears even if they are objectively "better" in terms of gameplay. something was in the water in the 90s.

>>714200532
>I don't really remember any QoL disasters in the OG
then you are in no position to recommend one version over the other

DE still has the armor you worse during cutscenes dumbo

Can anyone give a legitimate reason as to why 2 isn't the best one outside of screeching about anime girls?

>>714203769
You lost, faggot.

https://youtu.be/bGlFIkbrJKI?si=aFBzcPriyRiWKJbS

>>714203883
>>714203968
Gacha

>>714203883
Jumping kills your momentum, fighting severely nerfs your walking speed until you max affinity.

>>714204021

>>714204001
Fuck off bot

>>714195583 (OP)
Do people consider Torna a separate game?

>>714204062
Some argument

https://youtu.be/b1pOGUD3Isw?si=oqLup--vKS1lVj05

>>714197780
Ch5 was really well done. I would have had a LOT more respect for the story if it just ended there but there was still like 50 hours left.

>>714204171
>implying "gacha" is an argument

>>714195663
Xenosaga 3 was the only good one.

>>714204224
It has a gacha mechanic, in case you didn't realise, that is bad

>>714195583 (OP)
Some of the most boring combat systems in JRPGs but younger idiots love this shit for some reason.

>>714204204
Fuck off bot

>>714204291
>that is bad
Nah.

https://youtu.be/cjhocG1ZHII?si=364vpI-qpNcnCs1f

>>714204368
Fuck off bot

>>714204114
As some who just finished Torna a couple days ago, I kind of want to. Not only is the battle system different, which I prefer the Torna battle system over the base one, even in tone it's drastically different. It might have the same colorful artstyle as base but there's a constant shadow over every part of the game, it almost reminds me of XC1

https://youtu.be/HNhJc_dSE_o?si=_vTao5Fx2pMy6d_l
Alright, last one. I'll see you freaks around someday

>>714198602
>plus I love the [all the sidequest characters you completed will join you against the final boss when things get desperate] mechanic.
Yeah, it wad awesome. It feels rewarding to have the people helping you back after doing the sidequests for them.

>>714204519
Fuck off bot

>>714203820
It's like with FF and anything from square, some fell off in the 00s.
Masato Kato going freelance?

Chrono Cross is a nightmare to play, but it still engaged me way more than Xenoblade 1. In fact, I persevered despite the gameplay issues until I stopped because of controller issues.. strangely.
I did not feel that way with XB1 at all. I was getting more and more annoyed of everything including the story and world. There's a lot of bullshit going back and forth that is fucking irritating.

>>714203883
It's very slow at the beginning of the game and the field gates you're supposed to open with Blade skills, while cool in theory, is aggrevating as shit and grindy after a while. It takes a very long time to get very good, but man does it get very good.

>>714204519
>a bunch of videos that OP has no context for because he hasn't played them

>>714204294
XB1 has perfect reviews and I will never understand how. It has so many flaws it's not even funny.

>>714204614
Correct. Have you heard of the word "meme" by chance? It originated in the 1970's, denoting a spreading of ideas or humor

Am I a retard, because the combat of xenosaga completely goes over my head. I only played X, but I felt like I had no Idea what I was doing, and the other xenosaga games look to be the same

I had no idea if there were even builds or strategizing other than maybe good positioning? Characters just kind of stood in place flailing their arms, and monsters stood in place flailing their tentacles, and I would spam artes when they popped up, and sometimes they did good damage, soemtimes chip damage. Am I missing something? I remember X also had almost no ways to heal, but that's a different topic

>>714195583 (OP)
As someone that started with 2, don't start with 2. I ended up liking the overall story but the general gameplay loop is super tedious Most of them are still tedious I just thought 2 was a bigger offender (Field skills, Merc Missions, Affinity Chart) unless you strictly crit path and could burn you out before you even try another. I came very close to dropping it several times. 1 and X are better entry points to me at least. Still haven't played 3.

>>714204853
X's healing are the dialogues that pop up in combat (minor effect) or de facto heals from Cross or Irina or someone

>>714203883
>The gacha
>The fact it takes a lot of time to actually open up gameplay wise.
>Tiger tiger
>Tora only having two equippable blades until a endgame sidequest
>Its legit cringe at times.

>>714204816
So why are you spamming in this thread like a bot?

>>714204936
>>Its legit cringe at times.
But enough about 3.

>>714204940
Because it makes you seethe. As I said earlier >>714202028
What's so wrong with that?

>>714205064
This isn't your dead general so there's no need for the random spam.

>>714203769
>He cant beat the game with common blades
lmao skill issue

>>714205003
ITS KIRITO AND ASUNA!!!!!!!!

>>714205126
You are correct. I could have spent my time in much more productive ways. As could you, instead of crying about youtube links on a basket weaving forum and doing nothing else.

>Say something bad about 2
>"BUT MUH 3"
Kek, the insecurity.

>>714204936
It's honestly cringe most of the time, which makes the times it's try to be taken seriously even worse
Reminded me of fullmetal alchemist where you sit through the cringe jokes from time to time to stick with the good stuff but it became too overwhelming in 2 and the good stuff ain't worth it

>Say something bad about 3
>"BUT MUH 2"
Kek, the insecurity.

>>714205326
yeah bro I only like cool serious anime like DBZ amiright?

>>714205412
I watched DBZ as a child, unfortunately I was an adult when 2 came out

>>714205326
I just skip the cringe cutscenes like the one where Mythra sleep on Rex's bed. Which led me to skipping almost an entire chapter (the Tora/Mor Ardain one). Never skipped the Zeke kino however.

Cutie pie

>>714205513
You sound like a sōy drinking bitch

>>714205003
Omg its literally Kirito and Asuna
X = S
C = A
3 = O

tfw your hairy tomboy adult daughter wife eats dirt

>>714205657
Man I was so excited for Zeke, I fucking love that obnoxious room temp IQ bro but he didn't do it for me

>>714205835
Stop posting spoilers faggot.

>>714205848
The red pill about Zeke is that Pandoria is the better one of the pair.
>MFW the artwork and 3D model change the glasses when more of her story is revealed.

>>714206034
I bet her glasses get all steamed up from Zeke's lovemaking anyway

>>714205412
>"Xenoblade 2 is cringe"
>"Yeah, but whatabout *insert X*?"

>>714206374
If you think anime is cringe then why are you playing an anime game? Why are you on an anime website?

>>714206490
The point is most people don't feel overwhelmed with it in 1,X & 3

>>714206490
I don't think anime is cringe, I think Xenoblade 2 is cringe *at times*.

>>714206590
>>714206603
>literal reddit talking points
Lmao.

>>714206641
If you have no argument just say so faggot. Nobody is impressed

>>714206590
Well 2 is the best one so maybe the next one should be overwhelmingly anime again

>>714206490
I'm not gonna lie. It's designs did put me off and I like anime. It came off as the bad cheesy anime though with designs. uguu kawaii.

>>714206712
>implying "it's cringe" is a fucking argument
Kys.

1
It sucks they never ever made another one after that. :/
Oh well.

>>714206719
Oh let me guess you only like cool manly anime like Cowboy Bebop and Attack on Titan right?

We are all fans of the same series, why the infighting?

>>714206758
Well yeah, it is when you are put off about it. Its somehow worse if you are into anime, because you know that 2 had moments where Monolith Soft was indulging in their boomer mecha nostalgia, the moe thing or the ecchi moment like with Mythra pervert moment.
My point is that it either takes you out of the story if you know anime, or weird you out if you are not into anime.

>>714207049
>it is when you are put off about it
Sounds like a personal problem. Have you tried not being a huge faggot?

>>714207143
Sorry we get embarrassed by shit that makes you gleefully clap like a fucking sperg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZEfN5z8Mlg

>>714206868
What if I liked Nichibro?

>>714207225
I'll take that as a no.
Faggot.

Colony Mu is comfy and I want to camp there

>>714207390
no one asked or cares

>>714195583 (OP)
having played 1,2 and x recently i will say that 1 and X are great on their definitive edition and that 2 is a short to play, if 2 gets a definitive edition that removes all the shore and make the map and menu be useful it would be a great game, I haven’t played 3 yet

>>714207390
For me, its Colony 9, it has potatoes. The Lost Colony is cool too.

>>714207371
Yeah fuck standards

>>714207717
>faggotry is "standards"
hahahahahahahahahahah what a retard

>>714207776
What faggotry?

Actual spoilers, don't open OP.
>Mfw Ouroboros/Moebius cores were retroactively revealed as Zohar juice by Xde.
Interlink is coming back, isn't it?

>>714207914
Nah, interlink is 3's gimmick. It'll be left in the past just like the blade-driver mechanics in 2 and the visions in 1.

>>714207897
Whining about sexy women.

>>714208036
Never mentioned sexy women, is that a selling point?

>>714208098
>is that a selling point?
Obviously.

You know, at this point, I'm pretty sure the only people making these threads with topics like these are antis who just want to stir the pot and see a lot of infighting.

>>714207989
Visions sort of made a come back in FR via pic related, so never say never.

>>714208098
Don't play dumb retard. Everyone knows when you cry about "anime cringe" you're really crying about fanservice appealing to straight men.

>>714208173
>1 character with the gimmick mechanic in the nostalgia fanservice DLC
Yeah, interlink is never coming back in any major capacity.

>>714208130
>>714208202
I'm happy to bust a nut to pyra, why should I play her game?

>>714208134
Then don't post in them retard.

>>714208264
But its so cool!

>>714208347
ehhh, it's not that interesting once the shiny new toy effect wears off. L7 outclasses them hard too, there's really no reason to use them at all in postgame.

>>714208339
You're a bit stupid aren't you?

>>714208202
Explain to me how "2's comedy is cringe" translate into "sexy bad"?

>>714208446
But enough about yourself retard.

>>714208464
>errrrmm I just really hate the scene where Rex has his face in Mythra's boobs because it's so gross and misogynistic and objectifies women
Kys.

>>714208434
>L7 outclasses them hard too, there's really no reason to use them at all in postgame.
I do use them.

>>714206868
No, narutaru and Chrono Trigger.

>>714208614
Didn't ask

>>714208547
No it's just cringy

>>714208614
Yes retard, nothing is stopping you from needing yourself with suboptimal tools. The fact remains they are not anywhere near optimal.

>>714208649
Not an argument.

>>714208325
Because it's a good game. Best in the trilogy.

>>714208724
Yes it is, again it's about standards

>>714208809
>standards

>>714208676
Bro. Meta? In my single player game?

>>714208914
Ironically it takes more grinding to make Ouroboros decent compared to L7 which requires little to no grind at all.

>>714208878
>>714208547
>>714208202
>ERRRRRRRM I JUST LIKE THE RETARDED ANIME KYAA SLOP, OKAY!? I WANT TO BE THE SELF INSERT! I WANT MY SLOP AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!!!
This is you.

>>714208878
You'll play a 50 hour game to see a pair of tits wobble on screen, a lot of people wouldn't

Standards

>>714209106
>Ironically it takes more grinding to make Ouroboros decent
In what world? You gain Soul Point just by farting in 3. By the time you max them out, you'll get 100+ of those.

>>714209174
Yeah, what a sad society where faggotry is so rampant

>>714209172
>THE RETARDED ANIME KYAA SLOP
But enough about 3.
>*N teleports behind you and stabs you with katana"
>"heh, nothing personnel"

>>714209235
And you don't have to do anything with L7 and it's still stronger than every ouroboros.

>>714209241
>faggotry is not making your entire taste about gooning
Low T response

>>714209241
>Listen chud, if you don't invest 100 hours of your life to see a combined total of 10 seconds of tits and ass, you're just a FAGGOT, okay?
Could you BE any more retarded?
>>714209321
>makes up shit
I have no reason to take you seriously. Kill yourself, please.

>>714209514
>>714209484
Go back to twitter/resetera.

>>714209321
You keep saying 3 is worse for it than 2 but most people can stomach 3 over 2
3 was bad at times but it wasn't filled "UGGUU SENPAI REXU!!!

>>714209514
>>makes up shit
Huh? N is the definition of edgy cringe anime swordsman. Or are anime tropes only bad when they're titillating to straight men?

>>714209364
You have to sacrifice a talent art (and possibly a skill slot for the meme capable hands build) and do 10 role action without dying. Its actually super slow to recharge and I don't find it optimal on enemies that don't die immediatly from ATK L7. + you still rely on interlink to get that sweet All Down Debuff anyway.

>>714209697
>but most people can stomach 3 over 2
You might have a point if anyone actually played 3.
2 is still the best selling and most beloved Xenoblade. Anytime Xenoblade gets referenced in broader context, it's a reference to 2. XC2 IS Xenoblade. Cope harder.

>>714209628
>no argument
Concession status?
>>714209712
>moves goalpost
AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST, YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP FOLKS

>>714210045
>>moves goalpost
That's not moving the goalposts, retard.

>>714210045
>implying "muh anime cringe" or "muh standards" is an argument
You lost.

Me as Noah
(You)r sister as Mio

>>714210321
Why are 3fags like this?

>>714210390
Straight? Yeah, foreign concept on this website

Alright, I'll bite.
>Mio its feelings
It make complete sense in context because just one chapter ago, he found out L7 respond to his will, and it precede the lore dump about Origin being a soul storing machine that react to will and feelings, creating Moebius, on top of tying back with the off seer's jobs and the motes. Like yeah, its cheesy, but its not as cringe as you think it is in context.
>Muh N
At this point you are immersed in Ultramen and Noah's own katana antics. And that's fine, 'cause the point of a story is to draw you in.

>>714210536
>Like yeah, its cheesy, but its not as cringe as you think it is in context.
You can say the same for any of the anime shit that people clown on 2 for.
Why are 3fags so overly defensive about everything?

>>714210106
You're already exposing yourself as a knuckledragging mouthbreathing ape, don't keep posting to make that hole deeper for yourself.
>>714210160
>implying "muh titties" or "muh faggotry" is an argument
You never had a chance.

>>714210506
>shipperfag
>"straight"

>>714210690
You're the one crying about anime titties, not me. Don't get it twisted retard.

>>714210658
Nah, the Mythra scene was definitly cringe, without meaning to. Crab dance get a pass because its meant to be cringe for example.

I miss 2021-2022 era /xgg/ and /v/

>>714210715
>shipperfag
Brother, they actually kiss on-screen.

>>714210536
>>714210836
Holy ESL, Batman!

>>714210965
You're still a shipperfag.

>>714209819
Sorry sometimes I forget just how many mindless gooners there are, I try to forget about stuff like the success of gacha games so you can see why 2 made so much money

>>714197250
It’s a yes and no kinda thing. It sprinkles member berries and references both spoken and visual but never directly. DLC does way more tho.

>>714210875
No one asked and no one cares.

Reminder that the idiots who hate peak fiction get scared by youtube links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C5bcI8qDHA

>>714211030
>mindless gooners
Oh we're back to "sexy women bad" now

>>714197250
The base game does not require any knowledge about 1 & 2. FR however is fanservice party.

>>714211136
Fuck off bot

>>714211136
Based Xeno1 bro.

>>714211157
The fused worlds concept does not hit anywhere near as hard if you never played the first 2.

>>714210774
We get it bro, you goon 9 hours a day 7 days a week. Doesn't mean everyone wants to indulge in the same lowgrade bullshit you do.

>>714211369
Sounds like projection.

>>714211369
>lowgrade bullshit
But enough about XC3.

>>714211142
No, sexy woman are good, for like 10 minutes then I cum and move on

>>714211574
Oh you're one of those deranged "I have to masturbate every time I see a cute girl" weirdos and you're trying to put that on everyone else
It all makes sense now

>>714211260
This. It's like going to Kanto in Gold/Silver without ever playing Red/Blue. Sure you can do it, and you can navigate the story, but it won't have the same emotional resonance.

>>714211667
No I mean I actively seek out girls like the xeno 2 girls for porn, then I want an actual story
I don't want to watch a 10 part documentary series directed by angela white just because I'd fuck her

>>714211438
But enough about Xenoblade.
>>714211384
I accept your concession.

>>714211810
>then I want an actual story
XC2 has an actual story and it's leagues better than the story in XC3.

>>714211890
You lost.

>>714210875
kys /vg/ refugee

>>714212042
>Y-Y l-los-
Concession status? Accepted. :)

>>714211974
Except it's not, it's an absolute slog from start to finish with an extremely unlikeable cast regardless of their cup size

>>714212324
Meds

>>714212328
>Except it's not,
It is. Cope.
>an absolute slog from start to finish with an extremely unlikeable cast
Again, you're describing XC3, not XC2.

>>714212419
It isn't, seethe *flosses chicken dance rizz gyatt holy fuck owned so hard #standards*

>>714212627
Concession accepted.

>>714212328
>it's an absolute slog from start to finish with an extremely unlikeable cast
That's 3 though.

>>714212646
You seem to have trouble getting your point across, no wonder you like 2s story lol

>>714212842
>You seem to have trouble getting your point across
Said by the retard who just posted this shit >>714212627
You lost.

>>714212842
You seem like a schizophrenic, no wonder you like 3s story lol

>>714212842
KEK

>>714212842
>>714213229
Most obvious samefag of 2025

>muh 2 is worse!
>nuh uh, 3 is worse!
Don't you fags ever get tired of that?

>>714213280
>2nigger assblasted over the simplest of things
Clockwork.

>>714213810
>samefagging 3tard who's been assblasted for the entire thread
Kek.

I just need a new one of these fucking games to get announced so the threads won’t be entirely populated by intolerable faggots. They become bearable for at least a few weeks while people like you all get drowned out XDE was proof enough of that.

>>714214101
>>714201928
We heard you the first time.

>>714214026
>but we have the sales! How are there TWO people that disagree with me?!??!

>>714214101
I mean they're single player games, most people have gotten 100% in every game in the series, except 2 obviously cus it's shite

>>714214286
>How are there TWO people
The voice in your schizo brain isn't a person.

>>714214286
>except 2 obviously cus it's shite
You're one of the flame warring retards that he's talking about. Zero self-awareness.

>>714214371
2 = bad

>>714214463
2 = good
3 = bad

>>714214505
That comment =/= argument

>>714214589
This comment >>714214463 isn't an argument either

>>714214589
>literally the same exact shit you said
>"HURRRR DURRRRRRRR NOT ARGUMENT!!!!"
You really are a fucking retard, holy shit.

>>714195583 (OP)
Why do you buy a switch game that's not Pokemon?

>Tfw we're all stuck in the Eternal Now that is Xenoblade two game wars/shitposting
AAAAAIIIEEEE, OUROBOROS-SAMA!! TASKETE!!

>>714195583 (OP)
1 2 and 3 are a connected story so you play those in order. X is it's own thing that could possibly be thrown into the same universe as rest depending on how you decide to take the ending.

>>714199674
>marry pyra mythra and nia
>fuck pyra mythra and nia

Get some stronger balls.

>>714214101
Why bother? X4 will be dogshit too, just like every game.

>>714215642
The fact that you're calling it X4 alone is enough to signal your secondary status. Begone

>>714215642
>I hate every single one of these games
>I must enter this thread and speak

>>714195663
what? no love for xenogears?

>>714215890
Call it a character flaw. Midwits annoy me.

>>714195583 (OP)
1. Xenoblade DE
2. Torna: The Golden Country.
3. Xenoblade 2
4. Xenoblade 3
5. Xenoblade X DE

Not order from best to worst or worst to best, but the order that will allow the story to make the most logical sense.

>>714195663
Do you want OP to drop the series or what? Xenosaga sucks.

>>714215987
Nah, everyone loves Xenogears. It's just a given for everyone to play this game.

>>714214589
You're arguing with an obsessed seamonkey btw

>>714216128
In the same way your mother sucked my cock & asshole, son.

>>714216284
Meds

>>714195583 (OP)
>Where do I start?
The first one?
It's like asking by which MGS to start, so stupid

>>714195583 (OP)
Since no one mentioned it yet, XDE lacks attention to detail, particularly in the environments, animations, and effects. The remixes are also badly produced. In exchange you get QoL such as, uh, transmog and the option to level down? And the art style is more generic if that's to your taste and kinda looks like the Gears/Saga artist (but not really). They never fixed the bugged item placement in Alcamoth btw.

>>714204291
Considering you can farm stones infinitely rather than being timegated and you aren't charged real money for them, no, it's not gacha. Do you think every game with random drops that predates gacha is gacha?

>>714216029

>>714216617
>XDE
1DE

>>714216067
What happened to her left arm?

>>714216854
Look at her right hand. Just typical AI quality.

>>714213393
Given the threads I have a feeling I'm going to like 3 when I get to it. For now I'm indulging my autism by attempting to piece together Alrest's timeline. Something I haven't got to do in a while. I just wish there was a library I could sift through

>>714217064
I thought I'd like 3 based on trailers but honestly it's kind of a dud IMO.

>>714217149
The foundation is definitely there, it just has a shitty combat system and the story falls apart after chapter 5, probably because of COVID and the devs getting poached again for TotK.

>>714217149
So right now that's my biggest worry. I've been just watching the shitflinging in these threads as I play the game. And much of the arguments against 3 vary between

>it's filler
>it's obsessed with chain attacks
>only 2 cast members matter.

1 and 3 are the ones I'm really worried about because I hate games that feel like filler. And one of my biggest praises for 2 is how the cast feels better balanced compared to 1 (I still like 1's cast but it really feels like Sharla, Reyn, and Dunban stop mattering. And I really like Dunban and Sharla). Right now my biggest hope is the people shitflinging about 2 and how its terrible because of gacha. While I do find the gacha really annoying, I really like 2. So I'm hoping to God that the criticism is overblown because I would consider myself a new fan

>>714216029
Self hate is a terrible thing. Get help

>>714195583 (OP)
XB = 7/10 game. Not bad. Fantastic environments and music but some major problems with gameplay, combat, quests, writing, character designs, anime brainrot etc.
XB2 = So bad i didn't play any of the others.

Always play in release order.

>>714217571
2Chad here, while it's my favorite game, I can understand why people wouldn't like it for a number of reasons.

Likewise, while I am of the opinion that 3 is the weakest narratively and main cast-wise, it's still a very good game. I think I ultimately expected too much from it.

>>714217791
I agree, you should get help, retard.

>>714195583 (OP)
The best one is 3 DLC. Play 1 first, skip 2 base, play 2 Torna and then jump to 3 and 3 DLC.

>>714218525
Telling someone to skip base 2 and still somehow understand Future Redeemed is a little silly.

2 is probably the most important game in the series when it comes to understanding the overarching narrative. It and Future Redeemed to the heaviest lifting out of all the entries, with the latter being nigh incomprehensible without the context of the former

>>714217298
I feel like the story has flaws even before chapter 5. A lot of scenes feel like they came from a first draft before certain story elements were nailed down.
Examples:
>the scene where Nia gives M the cloudkeep key
Nia obviously does this because M is her daughter, but M doesn't know that. Feels like a holdover from a version of the story where M knew she was Nia's daughter.
>the 10 year limit thing stops mattering when the narrative needs it to
Teach becomes a legendary war hero and then transitions into the veteran mentor role. This guy is younger than Mio but he's obviously supposed to fill a role similar to Dunban. Doesn't really make sense.
Isurd and Nimue are supposed to be Taion's mentors but they're both like 1 year older than him.

>>714218749
>lol what if we made our sell out anime slop game actually important and retcon the whole series?
Is there a worse curse than being an unironic Xenoblade fan? You'd have to be genuinely low IQ to think it has good writing.

>>714219097

>>714195583 (OP)
>best
3
>start
1 you fucking dumbass.

>>714200338
>split could cause a wipe
Imagine being fucking garbage at the game.

>>714217985
>I think I ultimately expected too much from it.
I mean, I didn't expect it to be a crossover fanservice story and I still didn't really like it.
I just don't care about the boring Noah/Mio romance desu. Neither of them are interesting or compelling to me. And if you don't care about that, there's not really anything else of substance in the story.

>>714200338
>>714198685
>>714198384
There are retards who actually STRUGGLED with 3? LOL

>>714219538
It's just shitty design, retard. What if you have no healers on one of the sides?

>>714219670
3 isnt a difficult game at all. The final boss has some unfair bullshit but that's the only time those mechanics are ever used.

>>714218749
The cuck Rex from 2 doesn't even exist in Future Redeemed, he was retconned into a chad. The main antagonist is also XC1 based and has nothing to do with 2. You can just skip 2 entirely and play Torna and everything stays the same.

>>714200532
>I don't really remember any QoL disasters in the OG.
Collection quests!

>>714219890
What a boring shitpost.

>>714198963
How do you get softlocked in FF4 and 8?

>>714219097
What's your issue with it? Even after my first run, if I ran into a question, the game would answer it most of the time. For now most of my curiosity lay in details, not in the central premise of the game

>>714219685
I had that. You get ally characters so it can only be an issue in the first half of the phase.
Again, get fucking good.

>>714219890
entertaining trvthnvke

>>714201928
2fags have NOTHING original.

>>714219890
>The cuck Rex from 2
How is Rex a cuck? He's told "I love you" from 2 different characters canonically.

>>714220042
>You get ally characters
You can't actually control any of those, dipshit.
Xenoblade AI allies are notorious for being dumb. Shit argument.

>>714220062
You mean 3fags.

>>714219890
>The cuck Rex from 2
He was a child!

>>714203019
>2
Music was the only good thing going for it. And it's not workout music.

>>714203968
Go back to sales threads.

>>714220230
Go back to your dead general.

>>714203883
>bad writing
>bad ending
>nia is a retard
>pyra is a retard
>rex is a manlet
>combat is slow and one-note until after chapter 4
>poorly implemented field skill checks
>movement in combat is ass
>no pity for gacha
How many times must we teach you this lesson, sissy man?

>>714203769
this

>>714202125
it depended a lot of when you got the skell, i got mien at level 32 and was killing bosses 10+´levers about me, but sone anons basically explore the whole map before the skell and were level 50-60 so the skell was really underpowered for them, it doesn’t help that the one you get for free is a total shit and you have to buy the model 30s

>>714220367
>>bad writing
>>bad ending
But enough about 3.

>>714220167
Anon, they do more than fine with using their heals.
I state, yet fucking again, get fucking good.

>>714220527
>they do more than fine with using their heals
Depends who you get. Some of them don't have heals, like Fiona or Miyabi. Like I said, it's shit design.

>>714196001
>best one
>either 2 or 3 (with its DLC)
yes

>>714205303
This.
>>714205362
melty melty!
>>714205412
>>714206868
>strawman

Do 2fags fucking REALLY?

>>714220367
>>714220787
Schizo.

>>714195791
spbp

>>714220210
>>714220479
Meltdown in real time!!

>>714220912
Not an argument

>>714220595
There are like 6 fucking healer heroes, you'd have to have beyond god awful luck to get none of them
>Fiona
>Miyabi
>no heals
Holy shit you can not be this fucking stupid.
Yes, they're not heal focused healers, but they MORE than can do enough even as a solo healer in those phases.
Stop being bad.

>>714195583 (OP)
What's the difference between the 2 XB2's.

>>714220062
>2fags have NOTHING original.
true

>>714218749
You just need to play the opening of 2 and then watch the final cutscenes in the tower.

>>714220983
Fiona literally doesn't heal lmao, yes she shits out buffs like crazy but if you have no HP it won't help.

>>714220062
>>714221027
Samefag

>>714221091
meds, schizo

>>714220831
>no argument
>implying samefag of 2 different posts
Thank you for introducing yourself. I'm anon. Speaking of...

>>714220991
Torna: The Golden Country is a DLC prequel to Xenoblade 2. It runs for ~20 to 30 hours

>>714220991
one is the main game and the other the expansion

>>714220991
Torna is the better version of the game.

>>714221045
>She doesn't heal
And guess what her mechanic at creating and distributing buffs can also create?
>counter heal
>delayed healing
>armor veil
Again, not saying she's a top tier raw healing healer, but she's more than capable.
And, again, you'd have to be HORRENDOUSLY unlucky to get just one of those two on either phase anyways.

>>714221242
It's crazy how much I prefer the battle system in Torna. I'm working on NG+ and while I'm happy I can get going a lot faster, I keep thinking

>Man I wish this was like Torna instead

People talk a lot of shit about XC3 but youtubers gave up on playing XCX because of how boring the story was. XCX still is a good game but I think it's funny how it's just not made for low attention span fags.

I think I'm having Xenoblade 2 antis fatigue

>>714221860
you'll live

Just finished Murderess' quest in XCX.
What would you have REALLY done, /v/?
Cede or fight?
I think most everyone thinks fighting would be the 'rock out with your cock out' answer and while indeed a chad-like response, I figure most everyone would just cede, honestly.
Recruiting her afterwards, anyway? It actually takes some brain damage to let someone who'd fuck you over in a trench back in that same trench with you, but she's a woman I suppose.

>>714203769
holy based

>>714203769
>>714220374
>>714222780
Samefag

>>714222891
meds

>>714219741
Personally I'm fine with bosses having unique mechanics, but if they're going to have them introduce it at the start of the fight rather than 40-50 minutes in.

Make it happen.

>>714221904
But we won't live well

>>714224723
not my problem

>>714220683
based

>>714204281
Just finished the Saga series. 3 really was good. Sucks that it took them 3 times to get it right.

>>714195583 (OP)
They are numbered for a reason.

>>714229321
Where's Xenoblade 4-9?

>>714229629
Retard.

>>714229629
trust the plan

>>714195663
/thread
shion i need to be cleaned

why does everything look worse in xenosaga 2?
the gameplay is horrible too
how did they fuck that up so bad after 1 being a masterpiece?

>>714231525
>after 1 being a masterpiece?
lol
lmao

>>714231747
did i stutter bitch?

>>714231795
Enjoy being wrong.

>>714231525
The whole development sounded like a mess the more you read up on it
>some arcs from ep2 were planned to be in ep1
>whole thing was suppose to be 4 or 5 games
>certain characters were suppose to have bigger rolls or party members
Just a mess of ideas

>>714195583 (OP)
None. Play Xenosaga or Xenogears instead.

>another shit Xenothread
No mercy for your precious cats. I mean it.

>another shit Xenothread
No mercy for your precious cats. I mean it.

You guys are STILL at this? I leave for a few hours, and you no-lifers are STILL doing this asinine back and forth?
https://youtu.be/Ag0xklJloF0?si=DjrFtX38BhIV8WxT

>>714233892
>>714233894
That's NTR.

>>714233963
Some retard keeps bumping every time the thread reaches page 10.

>>714233892
NYUUUU NOOOO

>>714195583 (OP)
That sad thing about Switch2 is that HD/60fps patches for these games is the biggest thing I'm looking forward to.

>>714195583 (OP)
1 and 2 are story and character-driven. 3 lacks the ambition and humor of both and gameplaywise the characters are interchangeable. It's still addictively good. X is its own category, with zero focus on character and story and 100% focus on exploration. There are exactly two funny moments in X. Torna is DLC.

>>714234049
Even if that were the case, that's still better than lurking in said thread without contribution while watching it die

>>714236684
This thread has ran it's course, why do you keep bumping it?

Why is X's story so damn rushed? The side quests last longer than the actual story mode. Plus, all the good arts, Ares 90, etc all tied to the last 2 hours of the game. What is the point? At that point you can beat the game with what you have. Great world and music but the story is ass.

>>714237186
agreed

>>714236684
>without contribution
OP has already gotten his answers.

>>714237186
game's story was redone half way in development because the team wasn't experienced with HD assets enough at the time

>>714237690
>half way in development
We don't know how far it was into development

>>714237186
disagreed

>>714195583 (OP)
START BY PURCHASING XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 3D
ACCIDENTALLY ALLOW THE DOG TO CHEW THE ONLY ''NEW'' 2 OR 3 DS IN THE HOUSE
REFUSE TO BUY IT AGAIN
PURCHASE A DIGITAL COPY OF XENOBLADE CHRONICLES 2
PLAY 5 MINUTES OF IT
LOOK AT THE USED GAME MARKET FOR ''X'' AND DECIDE IT ISN'T WORTH BUYING FOR YOUR WII U
Now that X is on switch I imagine I could if I wanted to consider X the first entry on the switch and play x then 2 and maybe at length consider rebuying a "New" 3ds or even a 2Ds New type but the above in ALL CAPS is what I actually did and I didn't get very far so I don't advise you do that.

>>714238812
are you ok?

>>714238880
No regrets here

>>714238880
if you Like my post you should check out my exceedingly fine thread: >>714238520
¡Get it while it's hot before it falls off the board!

>>714238812
Based and xenopilled.

>>714195583 (OP)
1, 2 (and DLC), 3 (Maybe DLC), X
Of course go with the rerelease of 1 and X. They're an straight upgrade in every field (I can see people liking OG 1 Artstyle, but not enough for me to discard literally every other change)

>>714198257
The entire point of 3 is going arround and makingg basedfaces at the 1 and 2 stuff.
Unironically explain to me why should someone care about the big ass sword actually being a city if they have no context of 1? Or the Queens? Or why Lanz is somehow a robot while the other side gets weirdos with crystals on their chest? 3 needs context of 1 and 2 to work way more than 2 needing context of 1

>>714219670
Z is actually shit because you only need to take 20% of the whole fight seriously, the rest is genuinely a glorified cutscene, as they can't have content that takes away half of your party and most of your tools and make it hard while being fair. But to be fair, I'm not going to act like the Siren of 2 or even Zanza were engaging boss fights, at least Zanza had some value narrative wise.
It feels like the devs blew their load at N and had no ideas for Z, imagine Palpatine but worse

>>714240082
Did they ever give X a Switch 2 performance updates?

>>714240384
I heard it just holds 30 without dips, dunno if they'll do actually something eventually
In my opinion 2 needs it the most, I kinda want to try if I get better resolution and performance on my deck

>>714240384
yeah X and 3 received updates
we don't know what 3's updates entail though
it just says compatibility updates

>>714240082
It's not just the art style. >>714216849 They fell for the GI meme and lazily ported assets without bothering to check what the new lighting system broke.

>>714240609

>>714240920
right looks better wwtf

>>714195583 (OP)
Obviously none, play Atlus games instead

>>714195583 (OP)
1 DE is very beginner-friendly and segues best into X DE, 2 heavily modifies the battle system and does a shit job explaining it so have some youtube tutorials on hand, 3 is a lot like X in that it builds up on 2's systems.

>>714241321
You don't like Warcraft 3 Reforged?

>>714196826
3 ends good if you're not retarded and can read between the lines instead of expecting to have everything spelled out to you like a moron.

>>714242283
The actual ending is GOOD
The actual bossfight feels like a joke in every field, like 2 with Malos in the Siren. Everything right before? Great, everythig right after? Great. The actual fight? Genuine and unironic shit

>>714242283
>having a good final cutscene negates the 3-hour loosely cobbled together final dungeon of stock animations where 2/3 big bads die with zero fanfare and their death animation doesn't even play correctly

>>714241321
Every remaster of that generation is like that, and always for the same reason. Mass Effect, PSO2, Dark Souls, all of them. It's what happens when your graphics are handled by interns instead of artists.

>>714202125
The game keeps making you go into places where the Skell can't go so it is absolutely necessary to keep up character build up to date along with the Skell.

>>714242480
Malos felt like the typical JRPG issue of not being balanced for anyone who did even a little bit beyond barreling straight through to the ending, so if you explored and did blade sidequests at all he just folds in half and dies to one smash combo.
Z is just kinda lame

>>714242248
The mere fact that the characters no longer look like crayon drawings on potatoes makes DE better for me.

>>714242283
>you're not retarded and can read between the lines
The fuck are you even talking about?

>>714195583 (OP)
Just play the games in Order with X (Definitive Edition) last.

Also "Future Redeemed" the DLC campaign is kind of mandatory for the full story, the Torna DLC of Xenoblade 2 on the other hand is mostly optional. But Future Redeemed has things for the overall cross-game-spanning narrative, Torna does not.

>>714237186
X itself was an experiment they did for the wiiu. XDE is the original script + with some content that didn't made the cut earlier and of course they changed some things like the black knight becoming Al but both were still the hero. Maybe Lao was supposed to be alive but with his VA actually dying they probably thought it was better to let the character stay dead.

>>714243561
>XDE is the original script
Lol no, original script has an actual MC

>>714243634
seriously? the character you play has less soul than link

>>714243634
I mean original script from wiiu but yes you are right.

I
just
don't
like
watching
a
pre-teen
boy's
bike-shorts

as "my character."
I'm just not going to play that game. I know, I already KNOW that I would hate it.

>>714241321
Yeah, but you'll never get Switchzoomers to admit that.

>>714243693
yes, I think this is supposed to be Al but not entirely sure

>>714243693
>>714244927
also from the reveal trailer

>>714196826
>1
>Ends good
Everything after you reach Mechonis is cliche as fuck and half-baked. The only really cool thing was BIONIS SLASH X.

Sex with Al in Elma's mim

when will they get Switch 2 patches???
I finally want to play XC2...

>>714246045
tranny

>>714244927
>>714244981
I think the main character end up being split into Cross(default male one), Lao and Black Knight. The backstory probably also changed a lot.

>>714246223
same, actually bought XC2 to play it properly on my switch 2 instead of through yuzus broken upscaler too, jokes on me...

Sex with Elma in Lin's mim

This is a really sad scene in hindsight. Because Rex just doesn't know what's torturing Pyra right now

>>714246612

>>714246349
Actually now that I think about it its probably not Al but whatever he was got repurposed into yelv

>>714246658
Someone hug Pyra. She needs it

>>714246709

>>714246612
He does know
To a degree, at least

>>714246779
For such a colorful game, it's kind of cynical sometimes

>>714246841
Chapter 3 is when the game starts to really delve into its core concepts.
Just... Just be aware that chapter 4 is... filler. Lots of filler. After that it picks back up

>>714246686
>Yelv
J-bodies is another plot that end up not going anywhere just that we know Eleonora is suspicious. Now we have Neilnail going almost Alpha in her speech in her quest that also end up not going anywhere, and we know she is a clone from previous evil Neilnails... I think they will probably make a XCX2 because there is no reason to make more plot points and not end them now.

https://youtu.be/y5a2964y7U0?si=CMzm1VO10JttKrNN

>>714197530
The Zanza reveal was kino though

What the hell? So Vandham knew?

>>714250779

>>714250836
Vandham is like the definition of wise old man

Start with 1, after that doesn’t matter.

>>714250876
It's cool that you are enjoying xc2 anon but be careful. These threads are not safe from spoilers.

>>714251052
I'm actually on NG+. I'm mostly looking for things I missed and filling in blanks. There's a lot of things that went over my head during my first run so I'm happy to see how much foreshadowing was actually in this game.

Still thanks for clarifying things that I got wrong. Assuming that was you. There's a few things that I'm still kind of confused about.

https://youtu.be/kqHVQnn_EO8?si=sps_rJfWScyKhOzN

Xenoblade 4 better go maximum coomer. Fuck the haters.

>>714253856
How do you goon harder than 2 without becoming an ecchi game?

>>714254087
Make the world as fun as 2's was. Even with the death of the titans looming in the future and different countries being at war, it was still such a fun place it seemed like to live. A real fantasy world. I'd argue X was even better in that regard.

3's in comparison felt boring as hell.

Just up the fantasy, up the coom, and it'll all be fine.

>>714251718
>Still thanks for clarifying things that I got wrong. Assuming that was you. There's a few things that I'm still kind of confused about.
I have no idea what you are talking about so it wasn't me

>>714255923
>such a fun place it seemed like to live
What a third worlder lolcow lmaoooo

>>714250925
Every game after it feels like they regretted how "final" they made Xenoblade 1 feel

>>714257340
I wish you would kill yourself and stop shitting up xb threads already