Thread 714203361

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I got stuff to do.

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/045/public/#/screen/home

>going beyond 60k registrations in single day
DAAAAMN

>>714203361 (OP)
threadly reminder

>>714203361 (OP)
doesn't let me sign twice

>>714204680
That's really good progress, did some eceleb get on board?

>>714206173
PewDiePie

>>714206173
Both Pewdiepie and Jacksepticeye.

shills lost

>>714206520
You do realize that the petition only gets the issue onto the docket, yes?
There is zero will in EU Parliament to actually draft legislation to formally codify this nebulous demand.

SIGN THIS PETITION OR I'LL FOLLOW YOU HOME AND KILL YOUR DOG

We should pester more streamers to do videos and talk about the petition on stream. A YouTube comment isn't enough.

>>714207037
That's why the discord shills lost and /v/ won

>>714207037
>they may shut us down
>that's why we shouldn't try at all

>>714207242
Bring out your A game and convince some vtuber to speak about it

>only 2500 registrations from completing the 75% requirement
And it's still only beginning of the week, this will archive 100% in a week or two tops, and from there is't going to be pure buffer.

>>714203361 (OP)
I don’t care about preserving your gachaslop.

>>714203361 (OP)
can I even sign this as an american?

>>714206371
>>714206484
Why weren't they interested from the get-go?

>>714207037
In that case how do you explain the fact that shills are so scared that they're posting Very Illegal content in these threads to try to shut it down? :)

Corpos are scared. Very scared. There's a reason why.

Have you looked at an iPhone charging port recently btw? :)

>>714207621
Not the rationale here.
The problem is that this "initiative" cannot offer specific and reasonable parameters for the desired regulation.
That's the value of lobbyists.
They draft a tentative bill to be revised and debated by legislature, also providing data and legal precedence to support it.

Stop Killing Games is just a vague demand with no legal argument or basis, and it wastes the collective enthusiasm and zeitgeist that might have otherwise been appropriated for something more concrete and actionable.

>>714208379
Sadly no, you need a valid ID from an EU country or your vote won't be counted (you can fill the form but the number won't even go up at all, they know which IDs exist and which ones don't). But if you have friends from the EU that you play with on discord or something, feel free to send it to them. Even if you can't vote directly, you can almost certainly get someone to vote, and that's still +1 vote. So in a way, you can vote, it's just a bit more effort.

>>714209023
Go touch grass, Jason.

>>714208596
>Have you looked at an iPhone charging port recently btw?
That regulation had material justification in reducing e-waste.
Retiring a game doesn't have any externalities.

>>714208596
>Have you looked at an iPhone charging port recently btw? :)
This reminds me
>talk to a normalfag (I know, MY mistake)
>he keeps saying how good and unique the phone is
>ask "isn't apple being forced to use a regular USB?"
>"bah, that is old news, new iphones can charge wireless and steal battery from other phones"
The "turn customers into embassadors" shit worked too well
Captcha: PAAJT

>>714209023
You have to understand that to even show up on the website, these initiatives actually have to pass a pre-screening. If it's good enough for the EU to say "yeah ok this looks fine, we'll let them get signatures" then there's nothing to worry on this front. It's a citizen initiative, not a law draft.

>>714209158
LOL

>>714209220
You're selling a product as a good and then taking that good away from the customer. The only reason why it's not explicitly forbidden in the EU is that legislators haven't looked into it. This petition *WILL* cause legislators to look into it. They are legally forced to.

>>714209023
It's vague on purpose to increase the success rate, the details are meant to be hashed out by the lawmakers themselves
locking yourself into a corner with specificity would assure its failure
but you know this, you're just arguing in bad faith

>>714209096
will do thanks for the info

Is there some sort of drama around this? Anons are acting like there's drama.

remind me again if I still have to vote after my country already surpassed 100% does it make sense for the total 1million votes or is it just beating a dead horse?

We're back (It's over) ((We're so back))

>>714210017
no drama at this minute, the pizza shills went really quiet once 50k+ mark passed

>>714209023
You swing around these big words but I don't think you actually understand what this initiative is intended to do.

>>714209481
>product
*service

>>714209527
Being vague is more likely to get something inconsequential passed, like a conspicuous sticker warning the buyer that the game is live-service.

industry plants in SHAMBLES

>>714208596
Remember.

>>714210916
>The more people that agree my idea is retarded, the better my idea must be

while getting my daily oppai loli fix i noticed even gelbooru is advertising it on their site lel

>>714211354
>state how long a game will remain active
They'll commit to two years, which they effectively already do, as every big publisher refunds customers when they shut down a service prematurely.
They will *not* ensure indefinite playability.

>>714211671
Considering you have to produce parts and support embedded software for a decade already I doubt you'd be getting off that easily.

Allah willing, we shall hit 70,000 signatures for today soon

Inshallah brothers, may there be many dead Ubijews and Blizzkikes

>>714209158
perfect

>>714211304
More like, the more people shitfling, post cp, scat and all vagaries of brown, the more clear it is that it's paid talking points of shilljeets from calcutta.
>>714212334
More importantly, the new coverage from big e-celeb faggots was posted so little ago that today is probably not the day with the biggest signature spike. They'll keep ramping up.

>>714212303
Because those are *material* goods that constitute waste when retired.
The rationale does not translate.

>>714210026
Countries don't matter anymore, total votes is what's needed now.

>>714212626
These are embedded software devices and I specifically told you about the legal requirements for the software.

>>714203361 (OP)
>>714203361 (OP)
>Look, I know I agreed to the ToS, but I didn't even read them! Companies should keep supporting defunct gachashit out of their own pocket so I can play it again in 10 years maybe

>>714212827
>devices
It's software tied to a *device*, *material* waste.
Without software support, the device becomes junk.

>>714210026
ALL votes count, the threshold thing was just a sidequest we finished last year already
>>714209158
LMAO

>>714213132
Factually wrong and it doesn't just hit embedded software read the General Product Safety Regulation and the Sale of Goods Directive

>>714212736
>a petition without borders huh?

I'm thinking to do an awards screen like Ross does in his game dungeons for the EU countries eligible for this, what should the awards be?
>Highest per capita
>Highest overall signatures
I gotta find one more that isn't just going to give Finland another win.

>>714208407
Most the big content creators don't even live in the EU. A few did videos when it first started and probably just assumed people would sign it. Now that it's almost over and was at like 50% people realized they need to bring attention to it or it's fucked. It helped that there's drama involved now which gives a billion free views.

>>714213353
Cite it.
I'll wait.

>>714209220
>spin it as "I should be able to use dead software if the company goes down!"
>EU politicians sign it in
>Corpocucks hang themselves en masse
>anons get to play dead multiplayer games

signed
when 4u servers shut down I felt an immense void
I modded my 3ds to play them still but I shouldn't have to do that
fuck companies doing that shit

>>714212736
>>714213306
I thought the threshold had to be reached in all member states. Was it ever like that then got amended, or do I have bad reading skills?

>>714213353
>Product
>Goods
Services are neither.

>>714213742
Actually SKG would do shit to MH4U as the game is still playable even after the servers were destroyed.
It was soloable even.
This is for games that you literally can't even boot once they end support.

>>714209158
These edits are getting good

>>714213936
Services just as digital content are regulated by EU law already. I don't see your point. We will get additional clarification and restrictions for video-games that's entirely fair and fits well into previous directives.

>>714213658
Cite what? These are insanely long legal texts that go over a multitude of things outside of embedded software devices.

>>714214182
ah, sad
but it's still a good initiative I dont regret signing

>>714203361 (OP)
no way you freaking pinko

>>714213742
look up pretendo network

>>714213776
there is a threshold for every country, but only 7 countries in total have to pass their thresholds. So once 7 Thresholds have been passed they do not matter anymore. It's just to stop one country from running over everyone else.

>>714214457
SHIT.

>>714203361 (OP)
Nope. After hearing PirateSoftware's argument's I can't in good conscience sign this.

>>714214916
stop the cap, unc

>dont like something
>yell pedo until the world hates them
do you guys think MJ wouldve amped up this movement?

From a freelance dev: Thank you eurobros. I don't like seeing my work only being remembered in youtube videos. I hate I can't play what I made.

>>714203361 (OP)
We closed this day with 69.730 signatures!
WE WON!!!
Bootlickers in shambles.

Reminder to any devs thinking that the initiative doesn't see things from the technical side:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-RaQZPzhqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m2pVX4TEyg (a buddy of Thor's with a comment section disagreeing with him 10 months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zblBt9XzWoo

>>714215589
totally organic

>>714209158
Got a chuckle out of me.

>>714215813
do you live under a rock?

>>714215813
Do you have any idea what's happened in the last week?

>>714215589
Stop the count!

>>714215885
does a rooftop count

i'm not gonna sign it

>>714215946
some ecelebs shilled something and people followed them like drones?

>>714215589
What's this organic diminishing returns graph up until a few days ago, I thought that pirat killed the movement? Explain Rosssiters.

>>714206173
Pewdiepie, Jacksepticeye, and Albino (who's a smaller creator but has been funnelling people a lot lately) got on board. Albino's video is also why you're seeing so many Hololive fans in these threads.

>>714203361 (OP)
>will you sign up my petition
>sign up
>up
ONE fucking job and they fuck it up

>>714216165
cute

The world is standing still waiting for the pewdiepie video.

>>714216049
An eceleb shilled against something but he's a fag so people are supporting it to spite him
Good

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