>superior in tech and in game library with more users on pc
>loses to switch 2 in sales

Well there goes "games matter" argument that made every nintendo outsell their competition in handhelds.
What is the reason now?

Because games matter.
Why would I play PC games on that piece of shit instead of an actual desktop computer?

It's a device for enthusiasts instead of plebs not sure what's to difficult to understand.

>>714290541 (OP)
I ordered one yesterday. Expand on my list of games I'm looking to try out on it.
Apparently shit like totalwarhammer works on deck but dont know why youd want to do that in the first place.

>>714292256
all the dishonored games are good
far cry 2 and 5 are good
play all the jedi games they are decent
no idea..
ass creed are ok until unity stop there
sekiro is kino but hard
play all nfs games

>>714290541 (OP)
Because it's not normie friendly. Timmy isn't going to troubleshoot with Proton, nor is he going to bother with mods when he can get a Switch 2 to catch a Pikachu on. Plus Timmy wants to play Mario Kart World with his friends, and he has a big library on the Switch already.

Tendies are children btw, that's why we call them Nint0ddlers.

>>714290541 (OP)
Because it's a different market, idiot. Steam Deck 2 sales may be better given Xbox is dead and PlayStation 6's price will be insane.

>PC
>game library
hahaha oh wow

should I go for switch or wii u emulation? just interested in Mario Kart and Mario 3D world

>>714290541 (OP)
Chink Ally X is better

>>714290541 (OP)
It's a dogshit console, the use of troonix means it's far from plug and play and the fact it requires a constant internet connection to set it up like the original xbone plans were means this goyslop was rightfully boycotted.

pc has no games, only console sloppy seconds

>>714290541 (OP)
it fails at being a handheld because it has a 2hr battery and is big as fuck
it fails at being a console because the dock fucks up something every time you plug it in and you have to tinker with it

honestly if they made it way smaller without the retarded trackpads and the dock would be just plug and play like switch I would prefer it over anything else but that's not the case (I have already sold it)

>>714291334
Because it’s handheld

>>714292207
This. I'm not going to pretend the thing is perfect, but it's pretty clear that most of the complaints about the Deck on /v/ are coming from people with no experience with the system or people who had unrealistic expectations for performance. The number of anons talking out of their ass about the Deck is unreal. Not surprising when you consider the low sales figures that these same people love to bring up kek.

>it's too heavy
>it's hard to use
Easiest way to spot someone with little to no experience with the Deck.

I considered it but I'm afraid it would end up gathering dust along the chink handheld.

>>714298045
>2hrs
Battery tech is still dogshit unfortunately.
>dock problems
That happens because of resolution and aspect ratio fuckery. Best way to mitigate it is by changing the resolution to the appropriate setting before docking.
>"retarded" trackpads
Those trackpads are the only reason to buy an 'eck. Left trackpads is for hotkeys, right is for mouse.

Its too underpowered. This is from someone who owns a deck OLED. Some indie unity games cant even reach over 50fps and forget ever playing big triple A games like death stranding or elden ring at 60fps like an ally z1 extreme can at 900p.

You can say its bad optimization but the deck lacks power, its just very underpowered and lacks that extra it needs to power through games that are more demanding or less optimized which limits you. Elden ring being a big example its only 30fps on the deck where as ally its over 60ps with optimized settings like turning off DOF and shit, with the same settings as the deck.


I still own my deck for indies and games that run well on it, but I can't play big games. As soon as the deck 2 or another device with a trackpad comes out I'm getting rid of it.

>>714298045
>it fails at being a handheld because it has a 2hr battery and is big as fuck
ok hows that different to switch 2

>>714290541 (OP)
>What is the reason now?

Nintendo fanboys are retarded and will buy anything that says "Nintendo" on it. Remember the fucking NINTENDO Labo(cardboard for adults) and the 4 different DS handhelds?

>>714299381
The Steam Deck came out at the perfect time, crossgen was still going strong so there was a glut of PS4 multiplats you could play decently well.
Now crossgen is dead and every game is using memetracing so it can't cope.
Even when it came out the Deck wasn't particularly powerful, the APU was recycled from some shitty VR headset nobody comes about.
Switch 2 isn't having this problem because it has enough scale for devs to optimise for it.

>>714299636
s2 is still flatter and won't fill half your backpack

>>714290541 (OP)
>MOGS the steam deck and switch

>>714300260
>Switch 2 isn't having this problem because it has enough scale for devs to optimise for it.
Pretty sure the cope is that the Switch 2 will also result in better optimized ports for Deck. Not really sure how that'll work out.

>>714290541 (OP)
i dont want to tinker with tdp to get half an hour of more battery you nigger, neither does anyone that isnt chronically online.

>>714290541 (OP)
>superior in tech
lol. lmao.

>>714300292
>s2 is still flatter
this is a bad thing, it makes it much more uncomfortable to hold. the first thing I did with switch 1 was get some joycons which actually have some grip to them
>and won't fill half your backpack
they're both fuckhuge compared to any real portables like the psp or ds, at that point I'd rather have vastly better ergonomics over being 10% wider

>>714290541 (OP)
retarded vegan

>>714300295
No trackpads. For how inferior the decks performance is I still prefer it because I can't play stellaris without it. The trackpads on the deck are just that good. Even games that you think you dont need it, you need it.

>>714290541 (OP)
They should make a smaller one.

>loses in sales
works on my machine
Switch 2 could sell 8000 gorillion units and I still wouldn't be able to play Heroes3 HotA on it.

>>714295827
PC has the real versions of all games, with higher rez graphics and hundreds more FPS

>>714300497
I wish I could get half an hour more battery out of my Switch 2.

dude, they don't even sell this shit in stores

>>714290541 (OP)
>outsells the steamdeck in 2 weeks
>this is somehow a bad thing for Nintendo

>>714301732
This

>>714293108
Sounds like Timmy has many friends, loving well-off parents and overall a nice childhood :(

>>714290541 (OP)
There are different audiences for games. The Switch 2 skews younger (physically and mentally). They just to play the latest Mario Kart, Pokemon, and Mario Party because that’s what they’ve always done. Personally I’ve had my fill of Nintendo’s franchises unless they start putting in more effort.

>>714301732
Stores don't stock items that don't sell

>>714303060
every time there's a restock of refurbs they sell out in minutes

>>714299381
It's not an optimization thing, some stuff that struggles on the goydeck (especially indie shit) has no real issues running on integrated graphics on AM4 platforms, and that shit is fucking ancient.

Trillions of shovelware games arent compelling, less is more

>>714303313
is the quality control on the goydeck really that bad to the point there's more refubs than real stock?

>>714290541 (OP)
because it's sold as a secondary device to an audience that learned about it from the website they buy games from
gabe undoubtedly wanted it that way, he gets 6 to 7 years of proton maturation while also not completely humiliating himself by selling it to complete glue eaters
for the 'eck 2 i'd expect 'aben to put his 'ick on the table and go balls to the wall shilling this to normies

>>714290541 (OP)
switch 2 is 100x more powerful keep up the cope

>>714307971
It's the same generation of silicon
Nintendo just got bigger GPUs because it's much cheaper to make it 2 generations later

>>714307971
>technology... advances?
even the shittiest laptop with intel integrated graphics mogs the average console cuckbox

>>714290541 (OP)
it was always about which machine has mario and pokemon on it

Steam deck is goated

there's already more switch 2 users than steam deck users, wanna know why? the deck is just bad and no one wants it
>BUT PC
it's a low range laptop, pc isn't a selling point when you're going to have much worse performance than consoles, with most modern games being straight up unplayable unless you 20fps at lower than the lowest graphic settings
>BUT PIRACY
piracy is for poorfags, and even most poorfags are smart enough to not waste $550 on a low tier laptop when they can get a much more capable pc to pirate games on
>NINTENDO BAD
as sales prove, you're a vocal minority on this take
doesn't help that the whole identity of deck users has become being a contrarian whining about what's popular and begging people to join their failed cult

>>714303313
remember how people like you claimed the switch 2 was selling out because of artificial scarcity?
apply that here, because here it's actually true since they're barely producing any units at all
in the years it's been out it only sold 4 million units

>>714290541 (OP)
Friendly reminder that every single Deck Derangement Poster is just a seething thirdie.

>>714314513
>it's a low range laptop, pc isn't a selling point when you're going to have much worse performance than consoles, with most modern games being straight up unplayable unless you 20fps at lower than the lowest graphic settings
look at that silky smooth 20fps with ps1 tier graphics on a resolution so low the game itself is shitting artifacting errors like a 144p youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfgQdToy6O8

>>714315414
>Deck Derangement
Even your memes are ports.

>>714290541 (OP)
>>superior in tech
Huh? It's one of the worst PCs you can buy

>tendies be like: my toy is better than yours because more kids bought it

>>714315829
>good things sell, bad things don't sell
shocking, isn't it?

>>714315829
>accidentally admitting the goydeck is a toy
keep those freudian slips in check bro

>>714290541 (OP)
Steam deck is a niche companion product for anyone who's already a PC gamer or anyone who's interested in getting into PC gaming. The switch 2 is there for anyone who either likes Nintendo games or wants a portable device with as little hassle as possible. They're two different products for two different types of people, but you knew that before you made this thread and the 30 quadrillion other threads just like this one.

>>714315961
Back to >>>/vp/ you nigger

>>714315829
Sales directly corelate with quality

>>714315961

>>714315414
Are the Nintendo Derangement posters thirdies too, are they also Leafs because I honestly think both are to try to push some kind of Nintendo vs Valve thing?

>>714316338
we both know you don't actually believe this
if you did you'd be into gacha and mtx slop

>>714316527
>are they also Leafs
New india is a third world country anon.

>>714290541 (OP)
Cuz it's one pc competing in a massive market with many other pc's that have higher specs despite their worse portability. I think gaming laptops alone outsell the switch annually.

>the "switch killer" made 4 million sales compared to the 152 of the console that it was supposed to kill
>the switch 2 already surpassed the deck in less than a week
>the only thing the deck killed was itself, just like how it's users normally do

>>714316906
>the switch has made nintendo so successful they got so greedy and offloaded actual trash onto their customers with the sequel

>>714316451
>>714317010
these grapes sure are sour

>>714290541 (OP)
I love my steam deck but I would never trust anyone I know IRL to use one as a primary console over a retard proof switch or PS5

>>714317052
>no you see nintendo cares about their customers! they're trying their best by... using a 5 year old soc and... planning an oled refresh and... making their consoles and games more expensive
if nintendo got humbled you would be better off as a nintendo customer

>>714316562
Gacha doesn't even sell copies and the best of the best MTX and GAAS always sell the most. What now? A McDonalds analogy? McDonalds is objectively top tier fast food restaurant.

>>714317052
Not sour grapes retard, 3 days ago I chose to spend $700 on a Deck OLED instead of the Shitch 2 because I want a superior gaming product.

>>714317283
i have nothing
didn't expect you to actually agree with my strawman
well done, you are in fact that degenerate

>>714317406
Sure.

>>714317301
>I chose to spend $700 on a Deck OLED
you have my condolences on your wasted money
do you ever play anything on it that isn't the first 30 minutes of a random assortment of nintendo games?

>>714317484
you're buying the oled switch 2 refresh and you know it
the perfect consoomer

>>714317301
you do a pretty good job showcasing deck "gamers"
whining about spec charts trying to convince people who actually own and play video games, that they look wrong because some clickbait said so on youtube even thought you haven't seen the screen by yourself and people who actually see it every day have no issue with it

>>714317484
>nintenslop
Owned a deck for 2 years and have no idea why tendies offload this garbage in deck threads, a big reason to get a deck over switch is because tendie games suck and you get access to a larger library with deck

>>714317484
>wasted money
I have a Steam library of 300 games. The Deck OLED has a massively better screen than the Shitch, and I can emulate bing bing wahoo if I want. Why on earth would I spend a premium on a Shitch 2 with a screen that's barely better than a 20 year-old PSP?

>>714317651
Which console has an objectively better screen? Go on, say it.

>>714317737
>>714317818
>>714317903
so what do you play on your goydeck?

>>714290541 (OP)
>>superior in tech
???

>>714317903
people already voted with their wallets, so the switch 2 clearly won

>>714299094
>it's pretty clear that most of the complaints about the Deck on /v/ are coming from people with no experience
you dip it's like 90% shitposting.

>>714318027
I dunno yet, it arrives in the mail tomorrow. I was thinking indie games and 10+ year old AAA games. We'll see.

>>714318027
Most recently nioh 2, age of wonders 4, replayed sekiro and from time to time I jump into xcom2.

>>714293108
>docking a deck
>instead of streaming or displaying from a PC
?????

>>714318153
>Goycattle slurp up whatever Jewtendo shits onto their plate, more news at 11
I'll be here to laugh at you when you inevitably buy the Switch2 OLED.

>>714316906
>switch sold 30 million annual at its peak
Does that mean gaming pc's killed the switch because gaming pcs sell 60 million annually on average? Those numbers aren't even counting custom built pc's. I never hear about casuals or kids playing nintendo games, it's always either minecraft, fortnite or roblox.

I guess nintendo's userbase is just mostly basement dwelling nintendo adults that can't help sucking nintendo's corporate cock despite them clearly weaponizing their nostalgia for more profit.

>>714318252
the deck is poorfag's first laptop
if they had real computers they wouldn't be using a deck in the first place

>>714318326
Just like we laughed at you when you bought your second steam deck for an OLED upgrade for $700

>>714318252
Nta but new vegas is so old you can probably dock deck to 4k and still push 60 frames on it. I use moonlight to stream newer stuff to deck/tv

>>714315829
>pcbros be like: nintendo will go out of business because of us, even though our hardware didn't slow it down
yes yes I'm sure the next Super Mario World will have a native PC port

>>714318529
This is my 1st Steam Deck retard. Unlike tendies I use decernment when purchasing products.

>>714316338
>t. Nissan sales rep

>>714318531
No, I know you *can*, but for a home setup, especially with modded games, you'd want an actual PC hooked up onto a monitor or TV screen

>>714318027
24/7 7th and 6th gen kino, and the occasional indie. This machine is the perfect older AAA games device. Who the fuck would play modern AAA on this thing? That's what PCs are for.

>>714318857
>piss filter irl

>>714318531
>I use moonlight to stream newer stuff to deck/tv
at that point just use a cheap chinkdroid device for it

>>714302019
The Switch 2 would probably have sold twice as much if Nintendo could supply stock. I was there on preorder night watching every website melt like ice cream on a summer sidewalk. It’s going to hit 100 million sales no problem..

>PC for demanding games and general purpose use
>Steam Deck for backlog, indies, and streaming
>Switch 2 for Nintendo games and local multiplayer
The seething over the use case overlap is unironically from the poor

>>714318857
wow, can't see shit
now that's a shitty screen

>>714319075
That wasn't the primary reason I got a deck, just something I often do. Most of the time I play deck handheld

>>714318252
>>714318738
1. It's New Vegas, the Deck does it at ultra quality at locked 60fps with mods.
2. I do occasionally Moondeck stream from my PC for Hitman 3 on the couch. (My PC is in my bedroom)
>>714318369
PC + Deck is the way to go. Sorry if you can't handle that simple fact.

>>714318653
Nah, you get to say we mindlessly consume so I get to say that to you. If you don't want this than bring an actual argument to the table, and not ad hominems. Ok PC vegan?

>>714319165
Hitman 3 in actual native 4k is so nice. Honestly even handheld on deck at 720p its great

>>714319092
Yeah, the LCD screen sucks. I'm waiting for a Deck 2 upgrade.

>>714319272
>we don't mindlessly consume!
what was that about sales again

>>714319165
people with a real pc have standards, the deck's 800p screen and potato specs make it unplayable for anyone who isn't a poorfag who thinks 20fps 720p is good enough

>>714318358
And this could only possibly be counting gaming laptops and prebuilts. Who knows how many people are cobbling together PCs one part at a time. Don't even mention the used market.

>>714319165
no, i'm getting to the problem with docking with a deck, which is that it's a stupid solution that only makes sense if you don't have an actual PC. the reason a switch dock makes sense is because it's a closed platform

>>714319375
Sales have a positive correlation with quality. What about it?

>>714319413
>20fps 720p is good enough
Very few recent games that are worth playing run this poorly on deck. I have a good pc for everything else but its surprising how little comes out that is actually worth playing

>>714319546
mindless consumption implies big sales numbers which deck doesn't have

>>714319729
>mindlessly consuming a quality product
You're not making sense

>>714319886
and those qualities are?
decks were bought for specific use cases, it requires deliberation
switches were bought entirely on their branding

>>714319084
Local multiplayer is better on Steam Deck and you can emulate Switch games on Deck anyway. Switch 2 emulator should take less than a year if you have the slightest patience.

>>714319413
>800p
Anything higher would be redundant at 7 inches. Plus even if the screen was higher quality, I'd still use a lower resolution for better battery.
>20fps
I don't play modern AAA on the Deck. That's what my PC is for. Get that simple fact through your retarded tendie head.

>>714319509
>why would you dock a deck
Because it's a good emulation and older AAA machine that can connect to a real PC via ethernet Moonlight for virtually lag free streaming? I'm not running a 50m HDMI cable through the walls just to play PC games on a shitty 1080p TV, and I'm not unplugging all my cables just to drag a heavy desktop rig downstairs.
>switch dock
It was a move by Nintendo to combine their home console and handheld markets. I don't own new consoles and never will, so I don't give a shit about it. Why is it relevant?

>>714290541 (OP)
I have the Steam Deck OLED,
and it would feel really outdated if I tried to play newer games on it
but I bought it just for visual novels.
Other than that, it's terrible for modern games: it gets loud and hot, and the battery drains in under two hours.Plus its big as brick.

>>714320061
>and those qualities are?
Games

where were you when tendies were all exposed as a loud screeching minority

>>714320130
>it's terrible for modern games
I've googled around for all the 'heavier' games I'd imagine I'd play on it and the feedback has been good on all of them. What kind of games would it be terrible with?
I'm okay with streaming to the deck instead but didn't think I'd have to.

>>714320326
We stopped caring what you thought when we won the console war.

>>714320493
>won the special olympics

>>714320281
so the console itself was a worthless conduit?

>>714320510
Sure.

>>714320326
Yeah no shit. I'm a Nintendo fan because I like their games but they're only one company and PC has a lot more stuff on it. I still buy Nintendo shit day 1 if it appeals to me.

>>714320602
All hadware always was and weaker hardware almost always is the best quality product, see PS2, Wii, DS, GBA, Switch, PS4, etc. This hobby is called gaming, not hacking, or tinkering, uploading, or cloud storage, or emulating, or frames. Gaming. Video games.

>>714318857
That's not the OLED deck

>>714320790
Except those consoles' games don't hold up by todays standards with very few exceptions

>>714320340
Depends on your definition of modern. I've played a fair amount of Fallout 4 on the Deck, and it runs well. I realize that game is 10 years old, but it's not that different from the slop of today, design wise. I haven't been interested playing anything newer yet.

>>714320281
Fun fact: The Deck can play more Nintendo games then the Switch 2 can.

and yet these Tendies will never admit that the PS1 and PS2 absolutely destroyed their precious N64 and Gamecube.

>>714320125
>that can connect to a real PC via ethernet Moonlight for virtually lag free streaming?
You can literally do this over the local network with any android TV using Moonlight.
>I'm not running a 50m HDMI cable through the walls just to play PC games on a shitty 1080p TV
but you are spending $40+ on a dock for a machine that targets about 40-60 fps at 800p now pushing 1080p frames
if you don't have a smart TV, i'd just invest in a small one with a good screen. to me, that's more mileage than hobbling a steam deck into a use case it's not really great at handling

>>714316338
Of course. It's a fact that sales = quality

1. Played the shit out of it
2. Played the shit out of it
3. Played the shit out of it
4. Played the shit out of it
5. Played the shit out of it
6. Played the shit out of it
7. Never played but looks fun
8. Never played but looks fun
9. Played the shit out of it
10. Played the shit out of it
11. Played the shit out of it

>>714319272
Cool let me know when you plan on buying the Switch 2 OLED lol.

>>714320790
so all consoles are low quality entry level qualities with no other quality than being able to run some software a corporation assigned to it?
and how is that not mindless consumption exactly?

>>714320994
At this point that's a good thing, as "today's standards" are unoptimized goyslop like picrel while "PS4 tier" games actually do look amazing.
The "optimization" patches only made it worse btw.

>>714320994
And they're still amazing in spite being graphically and functionally inferior to anything today. I still annually play Mario 64 and classic RE.

>>714321186
entry level hardware*

>>714320790
yeah, thank god for emulation

>>714320102
>Local multiplayer is better on Steam Deck
it literally isn't
>you can emulate Switch games on Deck anyway
not satisfactorily. there will be some nice cases here and there, especially for year 1 switch games, but even then breath of the wild is only at most native switch handheld resolution with a dogshit battery life and shader compilation stuttering. totk is even worse. ask me how i know.
>Switch 2 emulator should take less than a year
this is the funniest cope

>>714321035
Switch1/2 plays more Switch and Switch 2 games than any PC. If your argument was that it's a better substitute you failed.

>>714320602
>taken aback that people cared about games and not epeen
why do you people have the personality of a weekly throwaway anime villain

I would rather play my PC games on my PC. My Switch and Switch 2 are meant for Nintendo games, with some indies.

>>714321360
>breath of the wild is only at most native switch handheld resolution with a dogshit battery life and shader compilation stuttering
Pretty sure you're supposed to play the WiiU version on Deck. The emulator is better.

>>714320102
not when it has nvidia meme tech like dlss

>>714321145
That will be my first switch 2

>>714321490
why are you unable to follow the thread of logic you've started?
you've indirectly admitted that consoles are mindlessly consumed

>>714321123
>understands sufficiency but not necessity
logiclets lel

>>714321186
>and how is that not mindless consumption exactly?
Because I didn't that.

Can't run the latest AAA games without setting graphics back to the Super nintendo age

Battery life sucks harder than $10 street corner hooker

Can't play most of the popular mulitplayer games out there due to kernel anticheats

If at home users would actually play on their powerhouse PC

I was gifted the deck for birthday and this shit is only been useful 5 times a year i go out of country for long business trips. Other than that it rots away in my closet.

>>714321325
I prefer OG hardware on physical games I own.

>>714321690
but you brag about sales? you're not talking about how good the hardware is, that's textbook quantity over quality mindless consumption and using sales is a childish attempt at peer pressure

>>714321531
even on CEMU the game cannot get above 45 FPS reliably, and that's at the cost of clobbering your battery life.
Switch emulation on Deck never made sense to me because the overhead is so costly. You might as well just run Yuzu or Ryujinx on a real rig, upscale to 1440p or higher, and enjoy your game at 60 FPS. The Switch 2, for better and for worse, is the best platform for Switch 1 games in handheld form.

>>714321612
Sure.

>>714321119
>android TV
I don't own one. my does have a cheap fire stick plugged in for Plex
>dock
I'm using a $10 cheap chink dock with a phone stand to hold my Deck. You do realise it isn't connected 24/7? When I dock, I'm mostly emulating. Emudeck is so good to the point I don't even bother with emulating on PC - and I own a PS3 Slim for PS3 games

>>714321609
no, because there's a large space between
>enthusiast hardware
>minimum viability hardware
the latter to you seems like underspecc'd or underpowered, but each console generation has a comparable spec sheet that determines the fidelity of most AAA games coming out. The line that consoles draw is the standard line. PCs are the outlier in that they cost several times a console's asking price, and accordingly, they run games at higher fidelities among other things

>>714321830
Am I too much of a normie for you? Should I stop doing this these things? I'm just relaying personal experience and seeing it lines line up with high selling products nearly every time. I think you're the oddball. I think you know you're the oddball.

>>714321890
if it works for you, specifically emudeck, then that's fine, but I'm generally cautious when recommending a deck for this purpose because most people want to run their demanding games to display on their fancy TV sets

>>714321836
That sounds right. I've never had a use case for emulating Switch games on Deck, myself. Just figured I would point out the preferred version for emulation if you hadn't tried it out.

>>714321772
This but a freemcboot+smb instead.

>>714322041
>i think you're the oddball
come again?
we're in a steam deck thread and you're here to market the switch

>>714321609
>consoles AND PCs are mindlessly consumed
Or neither are. Anything else is just you brand warring.
>BUT PC ISN'T A BRAND
then you're identity warring.

>>714322169
If you didn't want that then OP shouldn't have made Nintendo a topic of her thread.

>>714320326
we deserve a conexit
make a new board for all the console gaming and redirect any mentions of console hardware to it

>>714321543
The Steam Deck can emulate it by replacing it with FSR which often ends up looking better anyway.

>>714318857
>I bought new thing to play old games
And you shit on tendies with this?

>>714321745
>Can't run the latest AAA games without setting graphics back to the Super nintendo age
Neither can most PCs. If a 3080 struggles, yeah, no shit a steam deck is gonna shit the bed. Modern games are absolutely fucked.

If you're playing anything that isn't an absolute piece of shit written by indians then the battery life is fine. I get 3-4 hours in elden ring.

>>714322617
>You can only play games on contemporary hardware or I get mad

>>714322617
To play old Nintendo games too. Like, go nuts bro, enjoy those amazing Nintendo games.

Remember the Wii U days when tendies claimed quality matters more than sales and that Sony were cancer for forcing paid online? Now look at them, they're worse than snoys ever were, pure bugmen slop corporate bootlickers

>I lost
>In a desperate attempt I will retroactively shift the narrative and pretend I won by replying to nobody
>here is a frog to prove I fit in here

>>714322845
Wii U days? How about a couple of months ago when OLED was god's gift to mankind and now you don't understand this ugly LCD with 33ms delay is FINE FUCK YOU

>>714323046
He's right and you're malding

>>714321772
Reminder that the Deck can run the following natively:
>Ocarina of Time
>Majora's Mask
>Starfox 64
>Mario Kart 64
>Sonic Unleashed

>>714322148
Meh. I guarantee you Valve is going to go full shill with the Deck 2. Deck 1 was just a stepping stone.

>>714322617
>NOOOOOOOOO
>YOU HAVE PLAY NEW GAMES
>YOU HAVE TO DRIVE TO AND FROM FOR A SINGLE LAP ON THE EMPTY TRACKS IN MARIO KART BAGGING WORLD
>YOU HAVE TO BUY A 10 DOLLAR TECH DEMO
>YOU HAVE TO SPEND $450+TIP JUST TO GET 60FPS ON A WII U GAME
>YOU HAVE TO BUY CYBERPUNK AGAIN AT FULL PRICE JUST TO GET 20FPS ON QUALITY MODE AND 30FPS ON PERFORMANCE MODE
>YOU HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO THE LAGGY GAMECUBE EMULATOR COBBLED TOGETHER BY FRESH EURO GRADS (who have no idea what they're doing) AND JAP BOOMERS (who hate emulation)
>YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT 16HZ TICK RATE ON SPLATROON
>YOU HAVE TO PLAY SMASH WITH NO ROLLBACK NETCODE
>what? you think that's retarded and not worth your money, and think that the steam deck which costs just $600 and has access to most of gaming history (for free) is a better deal?
>YOU NINTENDOPHOBIC FUCK

Yeah, I shit on tendies with the Deck. What are you going to do about it?

>>714290541 (OP)
If the Deck were a bit cheaper, I'd be tempted to get one as an emulator machine, but even then most of the time I'd rather just play everything on my actual PC. I really don't have a use for handheld systems.

>>714323140
Sure.
>>714323192
>Reminder that the Deck can
I already know what the deck can and can't do.

>>714320326
>xbox is more popular than playstation on /v/
Hmmn

>>714320326
Pro tip: when you're PC + Switch, PC is your primary platform. That is many of us. Personally, I'm Xbox + Switch. Hope this helps.

>>714323196
That's a reasonable take. I wound up getting one earlier this year because I needed a handheld that I could pick up and put away easily. And it works well as a backlog + emulation machine. Also nice that games and peripherals are significantly cheaper than traditional consoles. The Deck isn't for everyone, but I've been really happy with it.

>>714323691
>PRIMARY platform
>but i play more than one! STOP THE COUNT!

>>714292207
>enthusiasts

you mean virgins

>>714324140
Sure.

>>714290541 (OP)
>Wanna buy a Switch 2
Available at retailers
Available at Amazon
Available at resellers
Available at imports
Available every fucking were

>Wanna buy a steam Deck
Pic related.

PCtards are the most entitled and self-centered motherfuckers on earth, they think that the world spin around them, that everything else is irrelevant.

>>714324294
statistically a way bigger fraction of switch owners are virgins due to being underage

>>714290541 (OP)

The steam deck screen is tiny and its 720p and many games have unreadable text, it gets uncomfortable to use really quick, and worst of all the performance sucks. It just feels shit to use now, I haven't touched my deck since getting a Switch 2

Comparing Steam Deck to Switch 2 is like comparing a PC to Samsung tablet. They are two different things with two different audiences.

>>714292207
>for enthusiasts
You mean fat losers who post their tiny dicks on it. i.e. the real "tendies"

>>714324449
Most sources suggest every platform has the same 25 to 35 age range majority. There are no vast differences in gaming demographics regardless of where you play, just race demographics.

>>714324449
Not when you realize it's mostly adults buying them. Nice try.

>>714324669
>I got snickers and whispers of
Completely made up story for clout.

>>714293108
>Tendies are children btw
tendies are valvejeets that think they are superior for owning a different handheld. I'm not even joking. They actually get pretentious about this stuff.

>>714324669
somebody tell this guy you can't be gaming in public if you're a fat slob

>>714324830
>>714324890
come the fuck on
are you going to pretend that the one platform that actually targets children directly doesn't have more children?

>>714322770
that's a strawman and you know it
a few poorly made games don't make real computers unplayable trash on the level of the steam deck

>Nintendo Man babys vs Valve Fat slobs
This is better then the play-offs

Do Death Stranding 2, E33, and Elden Ring run well on 'deck?

I know I'm a little bit late, but I personally don't see the appeal of the deck

I don't really take vidya out of the house, the only time I do is when I travel for extended periods of time, and when I travel I prefer to travel quite light, so I only take a much smaller old handheld, or just my phone

And when I'm home I don't think the limited power of the deck makes any sense, it's not really upgradable, and the battery isn't great, so i prefer to moonlight from my PC to a tablet, or I just use my PC, I think a thin and light client makes more sense for a second device that you can lie in bed with

I do like the trackpads, and I think it's quite a cool device, but I also think it only fits in a very small niche

>>714325069
I was surprised by this information at first too

>>714324428
>Wanna buy a Switch 2
>Available at retailers
>Available at Amazon
>Available at resellers
>Available at imports
>Available every fucking were
That's a fucking lie. Its not available anywhere except scalpers. And I wouldn't buy it from a reseller because you could end up buying a bricked switch

>>714325069
>the one platform that actually targets children
No platforms target children. I'm sorry but you're just wrong. Children play fortnite and robox. Switch doesn't even have these games.

>>714325069
>come the fuck on [repeats last statement]
Solid argument right here

>>714298597
>handheld
>bigger than a PS Vita
lol, it has the same problems of a laptop: Too big so you have issues carrying it around, and yet too small to be preferable over a PC at home

It baffles me how even three years later the Deck makes /v/ seethe this much. I don't think even the Switch caused this much sustained asshurt over multiple 300+ posts threads at least two or three times a week for so long.

>>714324919
Sorry you got triggered deck tendie

>>714325695
To be fair, it seems to vary from place to place. They're all gone where I live, but I've seen a few a couple hours away.

>>714326102
No one is seething over the deck. It was a deck tendie that started this thread to bitch.

>>714325664
children like about being children on the internet to not be stopped by parental controls

>>714325836
>>714325724
do you need a scientific paper on why mario, pokemon, platformers, racing games and party games targets children as opposed to any generic shooter or rpg?

>>714326393
>children lie about being children
This is not unique to people who own a switch, I really don't find your argument compelling at all, the truth is that actually, the general age distribution of gamers is pretty similar regardless of console

>>714326208
No problem, PC vegan.
>>714326393
Nintendo doesn't make a single game that targets children. I hate to break it to you but lack of story and colors just mean gameplay, not "for children".

>>714326930
the games that use full sentences and complex adult words and themes are no different in their audience than games where speech is just simple words spoken in a childish cadence and some grunts and where ui is all colorful and simple?

>>714327420
>the games that use full sentences and complex adult words and themes are no different in their audience
No they are. Those are strictly for children to older teens because no actual adult would find those words stories and themes compelling. Movie games are honestly....childish. You loved FF7 and Sony Playstation 1 when you were 10. Don't lie.

>>714327420
Are you implying that only hardcore games for adults are available on PlayStation?

>>714327280
>nintendo doesn't obsess over their ratings
remember that time where they removed game corner from pokemon
they obviously fucking care about including kids, something no one outside of nintendo space does

>>714327697
>>714327696
alright i fucking give up
you people are so deranged that you're now claiming bing bing wahoo is complex and mature
you earn your negative labels that's for damn sure

>>714326301
You misunderstand me. I'm talking about Nintendie shills, Microsoft shills, EGS shills, and third worlders all hopping piping basedjak mad about the Deck. For three years. I thought it would've faded away by now, but it hasn't.

>>714325695
totally anecdotal but at a chain store not too far from office there's a huge pile of SW2 expecting to be taken, I already have mine so I don't give a shit, but there's avability,

>>714327812
ESRB isn't an age recommendation. It will be percieved as one by the consumer so Nintendo wants Smash and Mario and Pokemon to keep E10+ to reach more people and market it in more places. This is why Bayonetta doesn't act lewd or Joker doesnt spill marios blood in smash like they dontheir other games. Let me ask you something and be honest: is Chess Ultra, City Skylines, and Flight Simulator "games made for children". They carry an E ESRB rating. Surely these must be for children and not adults.

>>714328027
He was saying mature games are available on steam as well and most your snoygger games come to PC as well, that marvel slop is currently under $10 btw.

>>714328027
>you're now claiming bing bing wahoo is complex and mature
No I didnt lol. What are you even mad about? Can you not read?

>>714290541 (OP)
Doesn't matter that the Deck dumps all over the Switch, marketing and physical availability is always the biggest factor. If Nintendo only sold the Switch 2 from their site and had zero advertising for it, it'd be in the same situation.

>>714300260
>Switch 2 isn't having this problem because it has enough scale for devs to optimise for it.
???
CDPR spent months on CP2077 for it and it runs like ass. Switch had way more users and devs just dumped their games onto it like it was garbage for a quick buck. Even Nintendo's own offerings would run and look horrible. The days of platform specific optimization are over. Games are just made on PC for any random GPU, thrown onto consoles, and how they run depends entirely on how they look.

>>714329082
It also doesn't matter if any desktop or laptop dumps all over steam deck since valve shills will lap shit straight out of gabe's asshole

>>714300292
S2 is far less ergonomic and far more delicate, it's not something you just throw into a backpack unless you want to fuck it up. Its sticks are a ticking time bomb before needing a $100 replacement.

>>714329728
A very difficult concept to grasp.
Nintendo's hardware would be dead in the water if not for portability, but somehow that concept is utterly baffling to bad faith actors when comes to PC.

>>714290541 (OP)
Sneed deck is not a real console, has no exclusives and emulation is gay

>>714329728
welcome to the portability tax tendie, it's called power and cooling limits

>>714327280
>Nintendo doesn't make a single game that targets children

>>714320102
Deckbro, we don't need to lie about this. Every local multiplayer deck sesh always start with a 20 minute bluetooth controller trouble shooting segment that usually ends with one or two of the controllers being connected my USB anyway. Not to mention the dock out put bugging the fuck out sometimes, causing you to unplug and replug everything. Hey, it works wonders for jackbox though.

>>714320326
This was always obvious. What I didn't expect was less sony ponies than xbots, but I guess goypass eked it out. Funny that tendies screech endlessly over a bogeyman that basically doesn't exist in order to perpetuate their never ending victim complex and feel like they aren't the most obnoxious assholes in gaming at this point.

>>714329906
>its different when we do it
Uh huh
>>714330016
Correct. Nintendo doesn't make a single game that targets children. I might give you wolly world or peach showtime

>>714329994
Been playing portable since the early 90s. Welcome to finally gaming portably for the first time ever, PC vegan.

why does sales = quality? Fortnite is not the best game ever

>>714330798
Fortnite is free and hasn't sold a single copy lil broskie.

>>714330798
Because tendies are pathetic, miserable and desperate to feel like they belong to a 'winning' side merely for throwing money at a corporation that treats them like shit. They don't care about the games, only how well the corporation does so they can gloat about it. The proof is the games can be total dogshit like modern pokemon, but they'll stick suck off the sales to try and feel better about themselves.

>>714290541 (OP)
The steam deck has no exclusives and since you can play every game on your PC rather than a steam deck it's pointless to own one.

>>714331003
Yeah, it's why nobody owns a smartphone, because a desktop can do everything those worthless things do.

>>714330560
so what exactly is your problem here tendietroon?
you're used to your hardware being dogshit so why are you bitching about the deck?
are you going to cope and seethe when deck 2 releases and when it'll have oled at launch?

>>714331145
Of course he is. He's on here day in, day out, coping and seething. This is his life. He's by far the biggest, most obvious shitposter on the board at this point.

>>714324449
Nintendo lost the younger demographic to fortnite, roblox, and minecraft despite doing their best to pander to them. Their audience is mainly 25-35 year olds.

>>714330982
>>714331258
You'll survive champ.

>>714331726
Yeah, and you'll keep shitting yourself over it.

>>714331145
I'm sorry but I did not start this. You bitch 24/7 about the switch beaing weak so I simply throw it back in your face. If you can't handle this then stop being an obvious internet troll, mmmkay PC vegan bro? Remember, you always have reddit, resetera, and all of social media to cater to you and your vegan special needs. This is a tendie board and always will be.

>>714331862
>waaa waaaaa I'm mad
>heh I'm smug now
Autism must be bliss

Another bait thread.

>>714332003
It clearly isn't considering you have it and all you do is cry 24/7 over anons being mean to a corporation that thinks you're nothing more than a fucking idiot.

>>714290541 (OP)
The Deck is objectively worse than the Switch 2 though? Unless you mean the OLED Deck, in which only the screen is better.

>>714331923
because it's a fucking console
it has zero functionality besides being a corporate tool
if there's hardware parity then consoles fucking LOSE due to the sheer amount of shit the pc can do
every pc can do shit that goes back to the beginning of computing and it absorbs your toys as well
the switch 2 is honestly embarrassingly weak and cheap given how they chose to not use the node shrink that increased density by 3x
when deck released with that silicon, it was cutting edge
when switch 2 released with that silicon, it was older than the switch 1 silicon was at release

>>714332148
I bet that really really hurts your feelings, doesn't it? I'm never going anywhere and I will specifically seek you out to counter troll you. :)

>>714332396
>because it's a fucking console
There it is. The PC vegan seethe. It warms my soul. <3

>>714332646
you lost
consoles are fundamentally worthless and all those sales of the switch 1 only amounted to the switch 2 being a greedy hackjob that could be way better
your corporate dicksucking made the switch 2 worse, hope you enjoy

>>714290541 (OP)
The reason was never games or quality or consumer friendliness, it was always marketing and normalfag casuals. The Deck isn't trying to reach that audience, at least not yet, and has extremely limited availability and virtually no marketing. Its goal is to simply fix Linux and usher in good portable gaming for PC. Valve's slow and steady strategy that saw PC go from dead in the water to by far the most dominant platform is in the beginning stages here.

>>714332295
>Only the screen is better
Controls are better too
Battery life is much better
Audio is better as well
Really the only thing the switch has that's better is the GPU but it's held back by Nintendo's asinine decision to put a dogshit screen and a 19 watt hour battery in it.
Honestly it's smarter to just wait off on the inevitable switch 2 OLED or whatever the steam deck 2 has to offer there are just too many compromises with the regular switch 2.

>>714291334
I have a dock in the living room and another in my office. It's just a mid spec gaming PC you can move around easier.

>>714332723

>>714325069
Nintendo targets children, but they've lost them. Their audience now are infantalized adults, same as Disney.

>>714290541 (OP)
>superior tech to Switch 2
Explain without using buzzwords

>>714299960
>Nintendo fanboys are retarded and will buy anything that says "Nintendo" on it.
Then why did the Wii U fail?

>>714333034
did your fellow jeets tell you you'd look cooler if you posted a gif from your whatsapp group?
reminder, nintendo sells consoles, not games

>>714333441
Sure.

>>714333382
Because they're so retarded they didn't realize it was a new console.

>>714333382
if it released today branded as nintendo switch home it would be an absolute success
no nintendo user back then was as rabid as modern tendies today as evidenced by you

>>714333749
>if it released today branded as nintendo switch home it would be an absolute success
Of course, Switch has games, PiiU didn't.

>>714333749
>if it released today branded as nintendo switch home it would be an absolute success
I'd love to hear your explanation to this

>>714333749
You overestimate how many rabid, retarded Nintendo fanboys there are. They're an extremely loud, but tiny minority. Nintendo's success lives or dies based on whether they can court casuals. That's their primary audience.

>>714334020
did you miss all the tendie yapping about how the shit screen doesn't matter because they all play docked?
tendies want a stronger home console

>>714334234
You'll survive.

>>714334293
50% never undock, yes. That's why Nintendo isn't wasting my money offering a premium option I will never use. Adults would understand. Ever been car shopping?

>>714329906
Even better, having multiple docks around the house gives you the best of all worlds.

>>714334517
so you don't disagree nintroon
why exactly did you feel the need to respond

>entire thread is AI pajeets rage baiting other AI pajeets

this is modern day 4chan

>>714334639
Because I'm counter trolling you, PC vegan. Forget my reply, you never needed to post to begin with. But you did, so you asked for me to reply.

>>714334753
>green boss
>"Lime to die!"
>"You won't leave this place o-live!"
>"I've met my matcha..."

>>714334753
>autistic NEET can't read emotion, intent, or patterns to save his life
>UMMMMMM LE DROP EVERYTHING, LE POST A PANCAKE RECIPE XDXDXD
I'm real and I make you seethe

>>714334990
>i am le trolling you
how do you not feel embarrassed typing that out
you're wasting your time and mine
with the difference being that i type faster and i can alt tab while you're typing on your phone

There's not a single reason to buy the steam deck instead of a Laptop, unless you''re indian.

I do wonder tho, are all these daily shill threads worth it? Probably costs valve more than they make out of it

>>714335163
Time is money and I'm currently at work making a lot of it. Don't worry about me, worry about your anger problems and disabilities that led you to encounter me.

>>714325091
>a few
nigger, it's harder to find AAA games that don't run like shit at this point

We have watched companies like capcom go straight down the shitter. MT Framework was like a miracle. It could incredibly on literally anything. Then RE engine came along and that was good too. Games like RE2make and RE3make ran extremely well, especially on the deck, like only pulling 12W TDP at native res, 40hz. That's >5 hour battery life. Same goes for MH: Rise. Now, with the same fucking engine, we have dog turds like DD2 and Wilds that run like utter shit no matter what hardware you're using. Games have changed. Incompetence and laziness is at an all time high.

>>714335247
you're a chink getting paid to shill for nintendo? figures
anyway i'm not giving you more attention, anyone who unironically calls themselves a troll is inherently a loser

>>714335475
Sure.

>>714324428
And to top if off you NEED steam account to even purchase the damn thing. Can you image Facebook requiring an account to even purchase the occulus. People would bitch to high heaven. But it's OK if valve does it. Speaking of which ; they're still selling their old outdated vr headset at the orignal price. That's how little they think of their fanbase

>tendies go back to playing with their switch 2 maybe Mario kart with the homies
>steamies stay swarming the thread because they don't have fuck all to play and no friends

>>714336196
Uhmm but they keep posting a picture of them playing a game on their steam deck all the time!
Ignore the fact it's always just a game on the main menu or at the very start.

>>714336196
Based

>>714336196
and yet here you are, shitposting

>>714336471
Gonna cry?

>>714315414
That's true; most people trying to start Valve vs Nintendo shit are snoys and snoys are typically thirdies.

>>714338335
Yup, that fight doesn't even make sense.