Is anyone playing? How are you finding it? Is it a worthy contender to WARNO? The long-awaited successor to World in Conflict? No politics or strategy game haters please.

>forced pvp
fuck no lol
also no japan no buy

Tanks?

>>714303362
Well, it is primarily a multiplayer game. The limited nations are a shame but hopefully more will be added alongside much needed bug fixes and QoL. Japan is unlikely to be added though since it's modern day and they barely have an army to speak of.

>>714303001 (OP)
no because
>50 bucks for two nations
>game isn't fleshed out
>it's mostly pvp
the audacity of asking that much is absurd

>>714303362
Idk whats wrong with your copy, mine has working PvE

>>714304065
I'm guessing he means that the PvE is secondary to multiplayer. The campaign mostly serves as a tutorial.

>>714303001 (OP)
russian bias

>>714305707
Myth.

>>714303001 (OP)
I'm absolutely loving it, but I also live for PvP. The scoring system, the deck building, it all works really well.

Once people actually put effort into the scenario editor I'm sure we'll get some good PvE content, but for now the game is mostly PvP focused.

>>714303001 (OP)
im not playing it because infantry is shit. i'll stick to WARNO for now, but since BA devs have never buffed infantry it'll probably stay that way.

>>714308608
Infantry is shit in WARNO too

>>714311159
much better than BA lol. at least with a decent AT weapon you can kill a couple tanks/IFVs with the ammo of 1 squad. also doesnt just die like a fart in the wind.

>>714303001 (OP)
why do they have a fence welded to their turrets?

>>714311914
Tank cope cage.

>>714311914
it's an exploit to stop missiles

>no save anywhere option
>no buy
Very simple in 2025. Nobody has time to sit down 2-3 hours for one stage with the possibility of losing too without a save option.

>infantry is made of paper and is useless even when into a building
>no save in single players
>no punishment for afk and quitters in pvp and that happens every match

It's not bad but it has problems

>>714311914
Cope Cages.
IDF, Ukraine, Russia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan have implemented them to attempt to reduce drones blowing the shit out of their tanks.
Drones as a phenomena have cuckolded the entire military sector.
Everyone's afraid of using tanks except in dense or smokescreen-heavy environments where drones will have a harder time not bouncing off random shit to meet their target.
The drone surveillance on steady unbroken flight cycles and shifts are on the other hand making surprise tactics, flanking, all the good old shit impossible now, ergo return to WW1 trench warfare, and no prospect of air superiority anymore if you are facing an ECM-loaded autistic militaries, which is pretty much everyone now save for Muslim subhumans with the exception of Turkey and Azeris again. Optics with thermal and night vision imaging across multiple layers, and AI filtering and cross-referencing, is the God now on the field; especially in Sunlight-heavy periods where drones will absorb all the heat and be visible, unless use of specific materials mitigates this. Use of fiberoptic cables up to 50km range have also made ECM nonfunctional against many drones, but those cables also provide an anti-drone canopy above treelines when enough pile up like fucking spider webs, so it's a double-edged sword.
Everything's gone full retard.

>>714314838
what's the next big step?

>>714303362
>also no japan no buy
lmao look and laugh at this looser

>>714314838
>ergo return to WW1 trench warfare, and no prospect of air superiority anymore if you are facing an ECM-loaded autistic militaries

one side has no heavy equipment, the other side is retarded, and they’re both poor. i wouldn’t generalize so much.

>>714303001 (OP)
i hate how arcadey both broken arrow and warno is
why is it such a tough ask to get something like combat mission coldwar but with less autism and with a operational level campaign?

>>714316212
Well the next thing CCP, USA, and the rest are focused on now is unironic bolt rifles. That is to say, portable, lightweight, sturdy magazine-fed grenade launchers and airburst and shrapnel rounds. Drone-killer Drones. AI-aiming on special anti-drone turrets because Humans can't react to them for shit most of the time from within fast-moving vehicles. Recent studies have shown, if you hear a drone, it's too late already. If you can see it before you hear it, flip coins unless you have smoke nades and coverage.
Smokescreen is now the defacto equivalent to the medieval shield.
Grouping specific chemical smoke with optical equipment that can see through it is also one of the methods.
All of the above will naturally cost an absolute shitload.
However military economics still rules in spite of the above, especially with glide bombs and various cheaper drone developments, so Ukraine demanded a focus on even more mass produced cheaper weapons than quality as of a report from their ministry and military intelligence a month or two ago.
It's a frankenstein mish-mash of modern warfare and WW1.
Shit, even converting ballistic missiles and cruise missiles into quasi-drones is on the plate now.

>>714303001 (OP)
Is the Russian bias real? I keep shit-stomping U.S. teams and like the only thing they have that is actually annoying is the F35.

Their infantry melts, their armor gets trashed. Even their arty is losing duels.

It makes me think that the Russia shit is broken but I've been playing games like this since at least Airland Battles.

>>714316616
This is the closest we've got to a war between two equal relatively modern and powerful sides
US hasn't fought anyone with proper AA since WW2 so you'd have to be delusional to think WW3 would be all-out war
Just trench warfare and throwing shit at each other hoping it hits
>one side has no heavy equipment
Ukraine had enough of it before the war and they got plenty of them from other countries so this is a cope
Modern warfare is just gay

>>714317524
It's just realistic

>>714317524
the hard truth that NAFOids would piss themselves over is that american ground forces are lack luster and not built for large scale attritional wars, thats why they are autistic about air power

>>714303001 (OP)
I enjoy it alot and it blows WARNO out of the water
still not as good as red dragon or alb but if they get more factions and fix some of the shit it might aswell be a new wargame

i will use this thread as a surrogate defcon thread now
why hasn't it ever been recreated?

>>714317524
>Even their arty is losing duels.
Russia mains arty IRL so that's fine

>>714316212
Return to tradition

>>714318740
>>714318893
>>714319678
Then why doesn't Russia just like conquer all of Europe. All that's there is knock off American weapons and American garrisons (that'd probably get evacuated immediately).

>>714319310
>red dragon fag
opinion discarded.

>>714319485
There is ICMB but the the sovl of Defcon isn't there. It really is amazing how such a simple game had that good of an atmosphere.
>>714320029
For the love of fuck don't talk about the war here, go to /pol/. I want to talk about the games I like and a single mention of it sends threads down the shitter, that being 90% of modern and semi modern strategy game threads.

>>714303526
If in describing your rts, you start with "it's primarily a multiplayer game" then I can be sure it will have the following issues: atrocious pathfinding, minimal unit autonomy, any autonomy that does exists is actively disruptive, a lack variety, a focus on tactics over strategy, poor new player onboarding, APM focus, limited maps, dlc out the ass and minimal fun.

>>714318641
it's 70s soviet crap and a gloss of modern tech vs a much greater volume of 70s soviet crap and a gloss of modern tech

shockingly, the modern tech raped and gaped the soviet tech but gloss doesn't provide volume and structure to carry the day so they sit in holes and snipe at each other with what little they have that works

>>714318641
>US hasn't fought anyone with proper AA since WW2
Vietnam.

>>714318641
the US will never fight anyone with proper AA lmao. they will just get SEAD/DEADed and HARMed.

>>714320029
>Then why doesn't Russia just like conquer all of Europe
gee idk fucker

>>714321067
>shockingly, the modern tech raped and gaped the soviet tech
Only in propaganda

>>714316807
Based take. We're watching the fusion of 1914 mud-choked trench rot with Star Wars-tier gadgetry, except everything costs 10x more and breaks twice as fast. Judging by how long it takes to train troops to use all this AI/IR/smart-munition garbage, most conflicts'll boil down to "who didn't run out of competent operators first." Intel drones spotting for dumb tube artillery is honestly more bang-for-buck than half of these sci-fi turrets and guided suicide lawnmowers.

Funniest part is seeing guys in 100-million-dollar MRAPs leave the hatch open to swat commercial drones with a rifle. $500 drone vs $5 million soldier bus with all the trimmings, and the drone wins. Absolutely beautiful.

>>714303001 (OP)
is there drones?

>>714316212
Bombing the everloving shit out of motherfuckers until they wave white flags.

>>714322006
fpv strikes, thermals, and 24/7 drone surveillance are propaganda now? i thought you were talking about how important they were like three posts ago.

>>714303001 (OP)
>World in Conflict
The Russian guy is the same VA from Soviet Assault.

>>714316807
>>714322135
so what is the point of human soldiers anymore

sadly we can no longer have these threads without devolving into political shitflinging
i miss wargame general

why do people act like the barbaris isn't OP?
>DUDE, just spam TWICE as many units against it and you win! it's not OP at all!

>>714320367
>>red dragon fag
>opinion discarded.
Why?

>>714303001 (OP)
I just want my steeldivision 3. Eugène what the fuck happened with Warno? A QoL update for Wargame would have been better at this point, just take the units and port them 1-1 into Steeldivision and you're better than Warno lmao

How different is Broken Arrow from the last playtest? I remember infantry being more than useless, and tanks shrugging off javelins and pretty much everything except that one good russian special forces squad with the short range AT Launcher.

what's wrong with warno?
i've never played it

>>714329840
The lead balance guy was crazy. He got fired so its not on a downward spiral anymore

>>714330431
are you talking about madmat or whatever his name was?
in any case, are they updating the game now or what?

>>714330792
No. the balance guy was darricks. Some corsican guy who lead the balance team and would bully them and rage out. Would nerf any unit that beat him in ranked.

>>714324187
need soldiers to hold/control ground

>>714303001 (OP)

i would rank it as shit

its UI is vaporware, it has T-14 and kurganets in the game for some reason along with the other parade vehicles that there doesnt exist in any actual quantity, they didnt really seem to give a shit about actual operational capacity etc.

its just not that interesting, i feel it will be like Regiments where it lives for a year or so and limited DLC is released but theres just not any CHUTZPAH to the game

>>714316212
barn assault tanks with mine rollers

>>714320526
There's gonna be a sequel right? I really really want them to use the unused hammerfight assets that were in the hf files

>>714320526
>>714338550
What's the definitive version of highfleet to play? I've heard the dev cut down on the epilepsy explosions after release because people whined.
What about mods? Anything that's vanilla+?