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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:29:04 AM No.714333864
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Someone red pill me on this
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:30:20 AM No.714333965
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>>714333864 (OP)
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:32:04 AM No.714334078
>>714333864 (OP)
Shittier Tactics Ogre
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:33:22 AM No.714334173
>>714334078
Explain your reasoning
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:37:04 AM No.714334409
>>714334173

It's a lot easier, the story isn't as good, and it's carried by the calculators.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:46:38 AM No.714335108
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>>714334078
I came to the same conclusion but people swear by fft. TO is a thoroughly more robust and interesting game even if each version has some annoying flaw(s)
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:54:28 AM No.714335637
>>714335108
Fucking comic sans gets me everytime
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 3:58:02 AM No.714335889
>>714333864 (OP)
Meme shit, FFTA and FFTA2 are both way better.
You can also try Tactics Ogre for a challenge or Disgaea to have a great time being a retard.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:00:56 AM No.714336063
>>714335889
>FFTA
>Better
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:01:05 AM No.714336071
Delita
Delita
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>>714333864 (OP)
Heroism is thankless.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:02:49 AM No.714336183
>>714333864 (OP)
tactics advance is way better
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:07:12 AM No.714336460
>>714333864 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZXW8haxNoM
Amazing OST.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:10:27 AM No.714336665
>>714336063
Not that anon but you have to be joking, right? FFTA's mechanics are such a huge improvement. The only way someone would think FFT is better is if they're an absolutely braindead storyfag.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:13:06 AM No.714336820
>>714333864 (OP)
Red Pills:
-Everything you need to make basic gameplay happen (classes and skills) is locked.
-You have to spend dozens of hours running back and forth across the map at the beginning, grinding to earn "points"
-These points can be spent on unlocking the skills and classes you need to actually play the game.
-99% of the skills and classes you can unlock are useless
-There are no refunds if you make the wrong choice, go grind for another 48 hours
-The localizers of the USA version increased the cost of everything because they thought it'd be funny
-The writing seems like it would be interesting but it's convoluted anime brainrot nonsense.
-People say the PSP version has a better translation but it's not better, it's actually less accurate. It's more flowery and verbose, they added 10 times more words than is necessary. So people think "more words = more betterer".

Positives:
-The music is fantastic.
-The art direction is fantastic.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:14:55 AM No.714336929
>>714333864 (OP)
recently replayed it with the TLW mod. pure kino

FFTA sucks
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:18:37 AM No.714337141
>>714336665
FFTA made me return my GBA. It was that bad.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:21:33 AM No.714337336
>>714336665
Get rid of the laws and the missable bullshit and I would agree, FFTA is great. Which is kind of what FFTA2 did and it is indeed a pretty great game. Only thing is it needs better AI/difficulty.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:23:55 AM No.714337504
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>>714333965
big if true
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:26:28 AM No.714337653
>>714336820
>-There are no refunds if you make the wrong choice, go grind for another 48 hours
That's an incredibly common thing in RPGs. Only recently is it starting to become common where you can respec and refund your points spent on skills.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:31:40 AM No.714338012
Baby's first SRPG meaning it's pretty damn good and is worth a play.
Stick with the OG and play through the first chapter since it shouldn't take more than an hour or so, if you're not hooked by then in some form or fashion don't even bother with the genre
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:32:38 AM No.714338092
>>714337336
>Get rid of the laws
This shit again, that's what makes the game so interesting, you cannot just break the game like in FFT where breaking the game is so easy I would even call it a feature in the game.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:37:27 AM No.714338391
>>714338092
Have you not played FFTA? You can literally get all of the laws that would effect you negatively and make the entire opposing team illegal.
And you know what? It doesn't do a fucking thing because the enemy will nit get penalized the same as you.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:39:45 AM No.714338556
>>714338092
>you cannot just break the game
Yes you fucking can. It's a not a remotely difficult game. You are not even fighting against the NPCs after a certain point, you are fighting against forgetting what the current laws are. I can't think of a better example of "artificial difficulty." Imagine a Mario game where the law is "no coin blocks" and if you forget and hit a coin block it's game over.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 4:59:25 AM No.714339904
>>714338556
What they should have done is, instead of stupid binary "don't do X" modifiers, it should have been % modifiers such as
>MP costs are 40% higher
>your movement is penalized -1 tile
>you are 10% more likely to miss
>enemies reflect 5% of damage back to you
>healing spells are 30% less effective
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:13:04 AM No.714340817
>>714333864 (OP)
Final Transtasy with somehow even worse gameplay than the mainline series
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:33:31 AM No.714342248
>>714334078
spbp
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:41:48 AM No.714342724
Why are they not adding in the WoTL stuff to the remaster of the game?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:45:10 AM No.714342910
>>714333864 (OP)
Barebones sRPG with a kino story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ddKvvuTFt4
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:46:00 AM No.714342970
>>714342724
if you read the interviews with the lead guys you'll see that the director is basically doing everything in his power to not make the ideal remaster

he intentionally looked at everything and did the opposite of what most of us would have wanted, it's actually crazy. interviewers asked all these questions and he basically said "yeah we thought about that but I hate FFT so..." and then matsuno would be like "yeah he probably knows best since he's director :))))))"
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:47:34 AM No.714343063
>>714342970
That's so stupid why would anyone buy the remaster? What is SE thinking? Why do they hate money so much?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:48:25 AM No.714343118
>>714342970
Link. I speak fluent nihongo so jp is fine.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:57:55 AM No.714343707
>>714333864 (OP)
Its the Tactical RPG version of Castlevania Symphony of the night.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 5:57:56 AM No.714343709
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>>714333864 (OP)
really fun gameplay if you ignore the grind, the story is good but not anything amazing, its fanbase like to inflate their praise for the story and its quotes when half of the quotes around the net are actually fake quotes.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:01:57 AM No.714343953
>>714343118
can't find them
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:05:15 AM No.714344157
aho
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>>714343709
The fake quote thing is an extremely recent phenomenon, I never saw any of that shit until a year ago at most. Also,
>tumblr filename
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:07:45 AM No.714344317
>>714343118
https://www-famitsu-com.translate.goog/article/amp/202506/44572?_x_tr_sl=ko&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
https://www.square-enix-games.com/en_US/news/final-fantasy-tactics-interview
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:15:33 AM No.714344806
>>714336063

It's objectively a better game but the whole thing about it being a sanctioned sport with judges and the less interesting story was kind of gay ngl
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:17:03 AM No.714344904
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is tactics safe woke?
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:18:10 AM No.714344984
>>714333864 (OP)
it's very good blind
do not read or watch anything about it before playing it
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:18:36 AM No.714345013
>>714333864 (OP)
i highly doubt it is as good as these finalfags are constantly saying it is
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:18:53 AM No.714345028
>>714343063

Japan is good and bad in that they'll stick with "principles" and make less money if it means they didn't betray them
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:20:29 AM No.714345145
>>714344317
Nothing in here about hating it. On the contrary, they say the original is so good that the WotL additions were unnecessary and they want to show newcomers a more purist vision in line with the original. Except they're adding voice acting and rewriting dialog so that it flows more naturally when spoken so that's a little contradictory.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:22:58 AM No.714345292
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It was woke
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:23:09 AM No.714345305
>>714345145
someone like you can't read between the lines >Except they're adding voice acting and rewriting dialog so that it flows more naturally when spoken so that's a little contradictory.
meaning a nu-localization, get hype...
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:23:45 AM No.714345341
>>714345145
That means we won't get the extra characters like Balthier and Pizza guy.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:25:20 AM No.714345439
>>714345292
this is the infamous fake quote that make normies clap for the wrong reason because he didn't even say this.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:26:22 AM No.714345501
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>>714333864 (OP)
Peak FFT in this webm.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:26:39 AM No.714345512
>>714345439
It's the same shit he says in the game
>MUH LOWER CLASS
>WE'RE ALL EQUAL
>WE ALL HAVE BLOOD INSIDE
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:33:28 AM No.714345926
>>714345305
Every single version of FFT in English is fucked for one reason or another. Original translation has some cool lines but also has lots of confusing wordings that make no sense. WotL is overly flowery and a pain in the ass to read while ruining lots of the good lines in the original. Unfortunately, you're just going to have to learn Japanese if you truly want to experience FFT (or honestly, any Japanese game besides maybe shit like Mario that barely has any dialog to begin with). ็›ธๅค‰ใ‚ใ‚‰ใšใ—ใ‹ใŸใŒใชใ•ใใ†
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:36:14 AM No.714346102
>>714345926
>Unfortunately, you're just going to have to learn Japanese
ไป•ๆ–นใŒใชใ„...
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:38:19 AM No.714346242
>>714338012
>Stick with the OG and play through the first chapter since it shouldn't take more than an hour or so
You are insane bro.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:38:41 AM No.714346263
>>714344904
wtf does that mean
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:39:09 AM No.714346303
>>714336820
>classes you need to actually play the game.
>squire
>chemist
>knight
>archer
>Agrias
Yep, that's all you need to beat the game
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:40:46 AM No.714346410
>>714345512
He doesn't say that
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 6:46:02 AM No.714346717
>>714346263
don't play coy
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:05:22 AM No.714347920
Barius Valley
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>>714345292
>story's "hero of the People's Revolution" is corrupted as soon as he gets a taste of real power and becomes a demon-possessed homicidal maniac
funny how the "FFT was always woke" types never want to discuss that part
Yes, I know none of them have played it.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:44:34 AM No.714350381
>>714345145
Does the JP script have things like l I t t l e m o n e y or animals have no god? 'Cause if it doesn't then the english script is the canon one
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:47:45 AM No.714350569
>>714333864 (OP)
Painfully obvious first attempt at making a SRPG.
Do yourself a favor and watch the cutscenes on YouTube instead of slogging through the game, its shit and has no strategy aspect, there's nothing to plan around, enemies have randomized builds, you don't get to see the map before you send in your pitiful 5 (at most) units, and you have to fight tons of random encounters on the map because you're intended to just grind, grind, and grind until you happen to level the right jobs to unlock the jobs with the good abilities and then grind the JP to equip those abilities.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:52:13 AM No.714350818
>>714350569
>Painfully obvious first attempt at making a SRPG.
lol
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:53:55 AM No.714350923
>>714350569
True, it is way better to play (watch) VTuber visual novel waifubait for virgins like Fire Emblem instead
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:57:40 AM No.714351140
>>714350818
Is it not their first? That's embarrassing, what the hell else did they make? I want to avoid it.

>>714350923
Fire Emblem is certainly a lot better than FFT, even the original Famicom one is leagues better.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:58:00 AM No.714351156
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>>714333864 (OP)
>Gamepaly Only Here
Repeatable Maps with different enemy spawns depending on which entrance and what Chapter of the story you're on.
Great Community that made the game alot better than either release.
Access to Online multiplayer through community updates
Alot of customization one every character.
Wide variety of builds that are useful

My number one critique is that the game has an exploit where you can make any character pretty much invincibleand if you don't know about it you would 100% believe it's hacking.
Grinding past max level this way is a total chore.
Building a character from the ground up is a chore.
Everything happens in Chapter 4 making chapter 4 over 75% of the game.

You can not support the official release of a game made in 1997. So you should have no guilt playing the best version for free.

NEW VERSION IS GONNA SUCK,
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:58:06 AM No.714351162
What's the best mod/romhack for this? I played WOTL a decade ago and thought a replay with something extra to it might be fun.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:01:39 AM No.714351362
>>714351140
>what the hell else did they make?
ogre battle, tactics ogre, vagrant story, final fantasy tactics advanced, ff12
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:02:00 AM No.714351379
>>714351140
cringe tendie
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:03:48 AM No.714351459
>>714351140
>no classes
>far less combat depth
>childish, weebshit storyline
>childish, weebshit tone and atmosphere
>generic art style

>better than FFT

sure thing tendie
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:04:01 AM No.714351469
>>714351379
Nice projection, but Langrisser and Super Robot Wars are also much better SRPGs than FFT
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:09:45 AM No.714351770
>"good story"
>look inside
>a farmboy in the quest of running around chasing after the next macguffin also church bad
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:11:59 AM No.714351871
>>714351162
I think the last rebalance I played that was most up to date was cerabow's
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:13:01 AM No.714351930
>>714351459
>no classes
They literally do have classes, and the FE1 and 3 remakes have class changing
>far less combat depth
FE makes use of it's combat systems far more than FFT does.
>childish, weebshit storyline
>childish, weebshit tone and atmosphere
This can be applied just as much to FFT.
>generic art style
There's multiple art styles, and the ones in the FE1 and 2 remakes are anything but generic.

FFT fanboys are pathetic, so quick to cry over FE. I don't even play that shit anymore cause I didn't like the direction the series took with Awakening.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:19:16 AM No.714352261
>>714351930
FE as a game is more concerned with being a visual novel and dating sim than a SRPG.
Anyone with normal testosterone levels would die of cringe before the first battle ends.
Granted, I have only played modern FE and the GBA remake, but that is clear to me where the series is about and it's fucking shit.
Keep coping tendie
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:23:38 AM No.714352504
>>714333864 (OP)
If they make the remake why dont they add cool shit like randomizer, challenge options, new super bosses, new dungeons, new classes and items options wnd other cool shit to make it fresh and interesting for old fans.
Its so easy to add something like this. Meanwhile they are adding shit nobody cares about like voice acting and more of these faggot cutscenes that takes 1000 revisions and quality controls but ultimately adds nothing, pleases no one and will be mediocre.
If you shit out remakes, make it right.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:24:41 AM No.714352556
>>714352261
FFT is more concerned with being a visual novel and a JRPG than an SRPG too.
So good to know its at best just as shit as modern FE.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 8:35:21 AM No.714353148
I really like Matsuno's worldbuilding but why do his games end with stabbings
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 9:28:02 AM No.714355882
>>714353148


because they dont have guns