Thread 714341520

Why do you guys want government to get involved with games? Shit seems like a recipe for disaster.

Should really just be between consumers and the company.

>>714341520 (OP)
yes, but almost all consumers are retarded and don’t give a shit. so, it’s up to a very small loud minority of consumers to bitch at the government to do something

>>714341520 (OP)
The Mald fears the Mold.

>Aren't you asking for too much?
>Making waves is dangerous you know...
>Just vote with your wallet.
>If something changes, it was going to happen anyways. You had nothing to do with it.
>Why would anyone listen to some stupid gamers?
>Just accept how things are.
>Don't speak.

>>714341520 (OP)
Every single good thing a company does for your rights is because a government somewhere beat them into it

shut up nerd
let it happen

>>714341520 (OP)
The most they're likely to do is declare that a game which the publisher plans to render unplayable at end-of-life needs to be clearly labeled as a service, not a product, and the companies will just add the minimum acceptable labeling. This isn't worth all the hype but it also doesn't hurt you as a consumer.

>>714341520 (OP)
>Why do you guys want government to get involved with games?
where do you think we are?

I want them to become MORE involved than what this initiative proposes.
Tired of games getting ruined with dogshit patches that rework core mechanics YEARS after they come out.

>>714341520 (OP)
>no no no stop stop letting consumers own the property they spend their money on no no no no no
disgusting [group]

cry more anti human faggot american bootlicker

>>714341520 (OP)
yeah because im sure the multibillion dollar corporations will totally do the right thing

fucking retard

>>714342252
>bro trust me ok the eu is bad cuz im american and have no idea wut real consumer respect looks like its totally not like the eu forced apple to change their chargers or anything

retard faggot or baiting retard faggot

what do you think of him?

>>714341520 (OP)
Because the gov't should do something useful beyond infrastructure maintenance once in a while. Call me a commie I don't give a fuck, the initiative is good but it can't do much other than force better product labeling and an extra checkbox when you start a game up. If that's too much meddling from the gov't to you then I think you are a SILLY BILLY and should lighten up.

>>714342524
>90%
I don't think about him at all

Thank you, based European Union that only wants the best for the people.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/06/eff-european-commission-dont-resurrect-illegal-data-retention-mandates
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/06/eus-encryption-roadmap-makes-everyone-less-safe

>>714341520 (OP)
Regulate your games, or we'll do it for you. Clearly they didn't, so now the government is being requested to get involved.

>>714342524
He's playing the villain as part of his 5D chess plan to secure more rights for the people. He was able to solve the Animal Well ARG by himself in under an hour when it took the community weeks working together. There's no doubt he was thinking 2,000 steps ahead when he made that video on SKG and intentionally threw his WoW game.

>900000
>it's real
I'm impressed

FINLAD HAS GONE PLATINUM!

>>714341520 (OP)
>buys game license
>bwaaaah why my license expired!?!

>>714341520 (OP)
Video games aren't already affected by government laws and regulations?

>>714341520 (OP)
>Shit seems like a recipe for disaster.
vidya right now is a disaster that needs a reset button

literally every single time the EU has regulated megacorps has been in your favor

The EU is the reason Steam allows refunds by the way, they threatened to flat out block service in Europe is Steam refused to do refunds

>>714343341
>The EU is the reason Steam allows refunds by the way, they threatened to flat out block service in Europe is Steam refused to do refunds
Actually, it started with Australia's consumer protection agency suing Valve.

So if this thing passes, and it gets turned into a law, what are they gonna do if a company decides to kill the servers for a videogame? Is the EU gonna step in and say "no you can't turn that server off"? What if the company is bankrupt and can no longer afford the servers?

>>714343194
>fund GaaS cancer whose only purpose is to rip off with games
>complain when you get ripped off
>ask the government to make your funding of GaaS cancer safe
>be successful
>continue to support GaaS cancer without any worries

>doubled the amount of signatures in three weeks
Goddamn, so this is the power of dramafagging.

OP here, forgot to mention I'm circumcized not sure if that matters.

>>714342524
He will pretend that the only reason it succeeded was because he was the villain and did it on purpose. He is simply too clever for us

>>714343381
yeh but Valve was willing to risk ignoring Australia, then the EU got on board and the risk was too great

>>714343395
The game would've been made before the servers even went up to account for that.

>>714341893
YOU RUINED THE FERRETFUCKER'S LIFE

Honestly, everyone wants limits to the types of contracts they can sign. If you exchange something for money at the store, a lot of it is customary because people generally don't fuck with that contract. If people start fucking with that, the time to legislate that was yesterday. This shit should've already been legislated, but companies didn't so openly fuck with the custom that you're allowed to use the software license you paid for.

>>714341520 (OP)
Dont worry, most of these new signatures are fake(bots, people who signed it multiple times, signatures from non-EU people, etc.) so it wont pass, and even if it does the EU government will completely ignore it since they have better things to do than create laws manchildren's virtual-toys.

Just ignore it and move on, nothing good will come out of it.

>>714343496
So it won't matter for any of the videogames we are playing today?

>>714343341
not just steam but many other mega corps who tried to fuck you in the ass

So once it hits 1 million what's stopping the EU from saying "lol no"?

t. American

>>714341520 (OP)
>Should really just be between consumers and the company.
That's how it is right now and you're getting FUCKED in the ass. You can't just giblve up and abandon your rights because "maybe bad thing happen"

>>714343597
the only reason Apple hasn't forced you to buy a new proprietary charger for every single new Iphone is because the EU slapped them with a billion dollar fine over it, and the promise of increasing that number

>>714343647
nothing, however the EU has a very good track record of supporting consumer rights and standing up against large corporations
in effect, if there's anyone on the planet who's even willing to entertain the idea, it's the EU

You all know what could be coming if you vote for this petition right? You know the possible consequences of inviting the government to intervene in the video games, knowing full well and probably lived through the 90s to 2000s where it was full of delusional old men trying to dictate the rules and censor the fuck out of everything right? This could be even worse than that because now you have those same old men who now see the monetary incentive to fuck shit up and you fuckers are straight up kicking and screaming to come save you.

This might not be the government salvation you guys are hoping for, this may not even be the corpo vs government clash either, this could come entirely at your expense. They MIGHT fuck your shit up, anyone that has been around long enough knows not to trust the government and it's appalling to me that none of you can see Ross as intentionally misunderstanding Thor like he clearly is. He may have had to go to such lengths to ignore all the valid concerns Thor brought up and throw on a full mask under the guise of caring for destroyed games. Maybe he was hoping there'd be a massive outbreak of supposed ecelebs throwing their weight into this to bully Thor all of the sudden when the natural response was to veer as far away as possible from something that could potentially harm devs without hearing their concerns? They've been going into overdrive to push for this and you are all being way too mean to Thor.

If there's any among you that still possesses a brain, I implore you think hard before you sign this. Give it some thought, and spend a day to consider what Thor brought up on the Dev side. This shit could have so many malicious layers to it that it would be wise to not interact with it at all, and to say nothing on the long term ramifications against the average consciousness should it go through. Do you really believe that you might not be throwing away your information for the government to "leak away" in a year's time?

>>714343647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkMe9MxxZiI&t=199s

>>714343647
There's a problem with your framing here.
What's stopping you from killing yourself? I guess nothing, but are you going to do it?

>>714343589
For the most part, yes it won't matter. It's not meant to be retroactive.

>>714343894
Ok, saar. I believe you.

>>714342524
retarded faggot loser

I'll never make fun of Eurofags ever again if this passes into actual law.

>>714341520 (OP)
>Im okay that gaming corperations can nickel and dime me and fuck me in the ass anytime they want

American spotted.

>>714343647
the whole point of getting 1mil sigs is that yuros MUST get a commission together to investigate the subject, they are legally required to. If they try to brush it off without even trying they'll get sued.

>>714343412
The Crew wasn't even a rip off because it was from a time where you could buy a season pass and get all the DLC included and the online part was co-op and pvp.

>>714341520 (OP)
Who enforces that contract between the consumers and the company?

>>714344170
Monetary consequences.

>>714343894
AI post

>>714344126
I don't care. Any always-online game is a rip-off and a ticking bomb. As a general rule, if the game cannot be pirated, stay the fuck away from it.

>>714343894
No, it won't do anything like that. It'll be an extra label on some newer titles, mostly just to clarify you own nothing if you buy it. Jason didn't even bring up anything relevant because he misunderstood the whole thing.

>>714344170
If you don't comply with EU regs but still sell in EU you face huge fines in the billions, or perhaps get blacklisted from ever selling your products there.

>>714343395
In theory they will be expected to release server binaries or otherwise make a reasonable effort to set things up so that people can host private servers on their own computers. If they fail to do so they will face a fine.

>>714344252
Oh I see, you could have just said you were a poor turdworlder.

>>714344296
I get the feeling you misread that completely.

>>714341520 (OP)
Hang yourself contrarian its time to let it happen open up your gaping asshole

>>714344367
If a game cannot pirated, that means the corporation has complete control over your copy.

>>714343442
it doesnt

>>714344170
Financial compensations to everybody that bought it. It's a reminder that this initiative is only ever warranted to people who PAID for something for a game or the game itself. F2P'ers who did not spend a cent on a game do not get the end-of-life support tools.

>>714344170
EU will fine the company till it complies and if it doesn't it will prohibit that complany to sell any products in EU. EU loves its single market and the consumer protection laws in it and will enforce them always

>>714344506
Please just say you're poor.
You're embarrasing yourself nigga

>>714342761
try harder, faggot

>>714344412
Doesn't matter If this goes through as it is intended EU can say the contract is illegal and can't be enforced

>>714344563
Feel free to keep funding your chains.

>>714344367
I wouldn't say that factors into it. My crypto-autist friend has a couple million bucks but says MMOs are a scam.

>>714344658
I get to have fun playing games with my friends whilst you sit here screeching about it not being pirateable.

>>714344652
Are you a robot? Reread the OP and reread the response in chronological order.

>>714344734
As long as you don't ask for government intervention when you inevitable get ripped off by corpos, it's fair game.

People actively cheer for government overreach. It's too late for libertarianism.

>>714344906
Lobertarianism is a meme ideology that’s the equivalent of saying
>If everyone was le based like me and just willingly gave up power and acted chill everything would be solved
You’ll never accomplish your goal, and even if you did it would just be mad max. It’s a political adolescence.

i love how eurotards will fight for this but won’t fight against the refugees breeding their women. truly a beautiful union

GAMERS WON
YOU LOST

Only 7 countries remain.

>>714345059
Wdym? Trump won.

>>714345059
You lost.

>>714345146
Trump isn’t a lolbert.

>>714344906
Good, it's a retarded meme that fails to consider human nature and treats brands like kings.

Why are people like this?

What makes games with online srvices any different than any other service you pay for like a massage or some shit. You don't get to own the masseuse for forever just because you gave them money once

>>714345105
What's Malta's problem?

>>714345167
I won, the right (especially the youth) has chosen the path of results.

>>714344906
>It's okay that corperations can actively fuck me in the ass anytime.

>>714345223
One goal is more easily understood by the average person than the other.

>>714341520 (OP)
>Why do you guys want government to get involved with games? Shit seems like a recipe for disaster.
Shit already IS A DISASTER, the companies had their chance to self regulate they have failed

>>714345232
Kill yourself, Pirate Software.

>>714345223
The bottleneck is the reach, not the people. The dramasloptubers are huge and were only willing to pick up the story once there was conflict, before that to make people care would take a few minutes and that’s not how they make videos. It’s simply an awareness problem, that Thor and Ross just solved.

>>714345283
Out of all the problems to solve, you prioritize keeping the worst games alive. Sad!

>>714341912
>Making waves is dangerous you know...
Shut your fucking double jian mouth

>>714345419
>they're shit
>why???
>BECAUSE I SAID SO
You are part of the problem.

>>714342691
Ironic you're linking EFF articles when this sort of initiative isn't the exact kind of thing the EFF would support

>>714345385
I mean it seriously. I love game preservation, so I ultimately do want to support this, but it's a question I haven't been able to reconcile yet. If you have a serious answer I'd love to hear it.

>>714343647
Nothing, actually, they very well might

But they are obligated to at least consider it and contact affected parties to look into the issue.

>>714344906
I will only accept your stance as valid if you also think that safety regulations should never exist, nor should copyright or patents or trademarks

>>714343894
>chatgpt write a 4chan style reply against stop killing games warning about big government

>>714345232
The game includes the functionality of the game. The analogy doesn’t work because you don’t “own” the official support, but a means in which to support what you own after they are done offering the upkeep.

>>714345550
>>714345478
Woops, meant to say "as if this sort of initiative isn't the exact kind of thing the EFF would support"

As in, the EFF would support StopKillingGames

>>714345419
>did you know there are starving children in africa?
and?

>>714345634
I still don't see it. There are plenty of things you can buy that are contingent on the exist of something else to be useful.

>>714345658
1. So, where's the article supporting it?
2. Not the point. The point is that dickriding the European Union is fucking retarded.
See >>714342351.

>>714341520 (OP)
Kill yourself, yours truly the consumers

>>714345762
Can those things be arbitrarily denied to you for no reason?

>Why the "Stop Killing Games" movement is important, and why it’s time for governments to step in
Alright, sit down and listen because this isn’t just about Ubisoft nuking The Crew. This is about something much bigger — it’s about the future of digital ownership, consumer rights, and the fact that we’re letting corporations get away with literal digital theft.
We’re in an era where you don’t own your games anymore — you rent access to a license that can be revoked at any time. You pay full price for a product, and then the company turns around and unilaterally decides, “Yeah, we’re gonna delete this from existence now. You good with that?” No refunds, no recourse, just poof — gone.
And people act like this is normal?
Ubisoft delisting The Crew and actively blocking players from accessing it — even those who already bought it — is just the latest in a long list of digital executions. Forza Horizon, Gran Turismo, Mirror’s Edge, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (until it got re-released), Driveclub, MAG, Darkspore, Battleborn, Marvel Heroes — the list goes on. Some were niche, some were popular, but the pattern is the same: kill the servers, erase the game, and screw the people who supported it.
We need to stop pretending that this is okay.
>"But muh online servers!"
Don’t even start with the “online dependency” excuse. Half these games could easily run in some limited offline capacity, but companies refuse to enable that because they’d rather make you buy the next thing. Imagine if you bought a car and the manufacturer remotely bricked it because a new model came out. You’d sue them into the ground — and rightfully so.
Yet we let publishers do this all the time with digital media.

>>714345925
?Why government intervention is necessary
Here’s the real blackpill: corporations don’t care about consumers. Their only responsibility is to shareholders and quarterly earnings. So unless there’s legal pressure or financial incentive to preserve games, they won’t. This is why we need government regulation.
Other industries have this. You can’t just bulldoze a historical building because it’s old and expensive. Movies and books get preserved in libraries and archives. Even your toaster comes with consumer protection laws.
Games? Nothing. If a game disappears from digital shelves, it vanishes from history — no backups, no access, no rights. The fact that video games, one of the largest and most influential cultural mediums of the 21st century, have no preservation requirements is criminally stupid.
Governments should be stepping in to mandate:
>Offline modes for any game with online DRM where feasible.
>Consumer access rights post-shutdown — either through patches, emulation, or server handovers.
>Preservation laws requiring that delisted or shutdown games be archived and made accessible to museums, libraries, and nonprofits.
>Transparency reports for shutdowns, with notice and refunds where applicable.
If you buy a game, you should be able to play it — end of story. Doesn’t matter if it’s 5 years old or 25. That’s what ownership means. Without intervention, we’re headed toward a future where nothing is permanent, nothing is owned, and everything is rented on corporate terms.

reminder that if the EU doesn't pass this in some form, PirateSoftware wins.

>>714345925
ChatGPT hit the nail on the head here.

>>714345925
>Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (until it got re-released)
Mongoloid, it was simply delisted. The binaries didn't need to phone home to work, this is why people have been pirating it with a PS3/XB360 emulator for years just fine, despite, of course, being delisted.

>>714345992
>"But they signed the EULA"
EULAs aren’t a divine law. They’re just walls of legal ass-covering that most courts barely enforce if challenged. Consumer protection laws can override EULAs when they’re predatory, deceptive, or unfair. It’s the same way you can’t just sign away your right to drink clean water or sue for damages. We can challenge this — we just haven’t had the collective balls to do it yet.
In conclusion
The “Stop Killing Games” initiative isn’t just gamer whining — it’s about consumer rights, cultural preservation, and pushing back against the most anti-consumer practices in tech today. Games are art, history, and commerce all rolled into one. Letting corporations erase them because it's more profitable is like letting movie studios torch film reels when they stop selling DVDs.
It’s time we push for laws that force preservation, mandate access, and punish predatory behavior. Corporations won’t stop until they’re made to stop. And if the government can bail out banks and regulate toy safety, it can sure as hell protect the rights of 100 million gamers.
So yeah — Stop. Killing. Games.

Fuck that faggot OP. On a scale of 1 - 10 how raped are the AAA corpos if this initiative passes. Worst and best case scenarios.

>>714341912
is not like the government will help you either, the correct answer is to kill all the jews

>>714346012
Figured if corpo shills were using chatgpt to say why it's a bad thing because they can't come up with an arguemnt in the first place.
Then I'd use it to say why it's a good thing.

>>714346061
Worst case scenario is its so relaxed that they just circumnavigate around it, finding a ridiculous standard for “playable state” and the grift goes on.
Best case scenario is it works as intended, in which case its about a 6/10 they have to self compete and put in a little extra effort to make a product that doesn’t break. Piratesoftware asserts it’ll be anudda shoah but it won’t.

>>714345913
The things themselves aren't being denied, just the services they are being connected to. Like, a sim card in a cellphone becomes worthless if the cell carrier were to go under, but they are under no obligation to make your sim card work forever just because you bought it.

Their countries are getting overran by shitskins and all they care about is their video games. No wonder the white race is going to disappear one day.

>>714344906
Copyright is anti-property monopoly grants issued by the government. The most libertarian thing would be to get rid of it completely.

>>714346061
2, it's genuinely barely a skin off their back. Live service games won't die. Scummy business practices won't die.
What will happen is that some games get a golden stamp. Games that conform to the new legislation will have an added value akin trusted coin in medieval times. The trust in the coin is more valuable than the coin, you see. If anything, this provides them with better marketing opportunities.

>>714341520 (OP)
I want all publishers to go bankrupt and hope for a big video game crash

>>714341520 (OP)
I'd rather we just ban live service games outright. Fuck em for existing in the first place.

>>714345223
There were people who got mislead what the initiative was about instead of seeing what it actually was.
Some people are also just really retarded and don't pay attention.

I'm kind of concerned with how fast it raised, something fishy is going on that might invalidate the whole thing. I honestly don't think a Pewdiepie shoutout in 2025 is enough to shoot the signatures up 60x from last month.

>>714343421
Do you think he did it on purpose?

>>714342524
typical mage player kek

>>714346220
That’s where you’re wrong, bud. If the carrier goes under you don’t have a brick, thanks to the EU.

>>714346337
This wasn't just PewDiePie, theres been a lot of ecelebs coming out to support this and they even got onboard with the whole July 2nd get #StopKillingGames trending thing.
Even Elon Musk has reposted some stuff about it.

>>714342524
how do people not feel like something is wrong with him just by looking or hearing him

>>714341520 (OP)
Does anyone else care what corpo sucking USA fascists think?

>>714346339
Who? Thor?

>>714346337
Critical, Asmon Goldstien, Pewds, jacksepticeye, Mutahar and whole bunch of other not huge but pretty big youtubers have been talking about it.

>>714341893
whos got that comic with hitler and einstein about the holocaust?
I got a great idea for an edit.

>>714343462
When he reveals this he will also use the analogy of linux users providing the wrong answer to get people to supply the correct answer, rather than asking for help. As people won't do anything to help someone, but will gladly prove someone wrong instead.

>>714346337
>people massively involved in the gaming space all converge on a topic
>wtf no this can't have any effect on things!
What are you, a videogame journalist?

>>714344576
>Local autist can't tell when someone is making a joke

>>714346482
Well, pinch my nipples, i haven't had a new phone like 8 years. I'm sure there's other examples though. Like what about pretty much anything that requires an internet to function? Some devices just don't work without internet, yet they aren't required to function offline. I guess the argument is that you can "reasonably" still obtain the service required, but that's a bit of a thin line and won't necessarily always be true.

>>714346337
check who reposted it

>>714346107
oh, yeah? then why haven't you done it already?
cause you're a fat neckbeard who never does shit while bitching at people who do.

>>714345925
>Imagine if you bought a car and the manufacturer remotely bricked it because a new model came out. You’d sue them into the ground — and rightfully so.
1. This is a false equivalence because with games, you are explicitly told that you are renting for a limited time and the manufacturer/rights holder will remotely brick your copy when the next model comes out because that is when your renting period expires.
2. Honestly, maybe cars should be remotely bricked. What's good for the economy is good for everybody.

>>714346587
Yeah, 5D chess and all

>>714341520 (OP)
Neither the buyers nor the sellers should have power over the other, which is why we need a third party to supervise and regulate, that being the government. When the buyers want everything and the sellers want everything, someone else needs to be there to force compromise.

>>714346596
>>714346672
All of which have a predominantly North American audience. This has gotten 500k signatures in what, 10 days? As compared to 300k over 11 months. You're going to get a spike with this much coverage of course but going from like 2k signatures a day to 120k is weird, the fact of the matter is most people are lazy as shit and will watch the videos, agree, then not do anything about it.

How much is the paycheck for being a Ubisoft dicksuck these days? Don't tell me you're doing it for free anon...

>>714346939
You are never once told you are "renting" when buying a game anon.

>>714346798
The point is there is a reasonable expectation to be able to use what you paid for, games of old were able to do it, this problem is relatively new. It doesn’t mean they have to provide you the means to do it through them, only the means for the public to do it themselves, at their own time and cost. It’s basically right to repair for a digital good.

>>714346939
I hope you got paid for this post.

>>714346939
>you are explicitly told that you are renting for a limited time and the manufacturer/rights holder will remotely brick your copy when the next model comes out because that is when your renting period expires
1) You are not, it's buried within pages and pages of EULAs (not legally binding)
b. destruction of property is a crime

>only ramps up as the final month approaches

Is doing it out of spite against a furry all it takes?

>>714347056
I'll be honest, I don't even touch live service shit, so I don't know a lot about it. What's stopping people from already doing this? Like, if autists can make wiiu fan servers already, why can't people do it for any game? At this point, I just want to know more.

>>714347237
Because most gaming media and elon musk are talking about it too.

>>714347257
That gets into like network code shit, above my head. These games are built to brick without official support. If this succeeds they’ll plan games out with that functionality in mind.

>>714341520 (OP)
>should be between the consumer and the company
It's-a me, Luigi!

>>714347257
Mostly depends on the corperation but most will come down on you hard with DMCA and copyright strikes, cease and desists etc.
And recently a lot of the games logic is placed server side so even when the server goes down you couldn't really make your own server from the files.

>>714347130
>not legally binding

oy vey just take them to court then lad

>>714347056
Ok, second question: does this apply to games that require monthly payments or free to play shit? Paying for something monthly is even more of a monetary investment

Hope PirateSoftware acks himself when it reaches 1m.

>>714341520 (OP)
Gaming is dead, you either don't realize it or you have incredibly shit taste. Might as well try something.

>>714347721
Supposedly not since by paying a continuing fee the assumption is that the fee pays for upkeep and thus once they start collecting that fee there should be no assumption that the game is playable. That said the prevelance of private servers means that it's probably not a huge issue? I mean hell Warhammer age of reckoning exists in a semi-official manner if people can get GW to not be pissy about private servers on a game that used to require a sub (I think) i can't see most other games have an issue.

>>714341520 (OP)
Kill yourself liberal.

>>714348073
I'll be honest, that makes me a bit worried that this will lead to more free 2 play shit, which I hate with a passion, but we'll see I guess.

>>714346842
>grifter who scammed the US government because their president is a senile retard support the petition

Not a good sign.

>>714347741
wild to think ubishart still has enough money to pay them

>>714345236
>0.26% votes/capita
They're doing pretty good. The biggest niggers on the image are Greece, Bulgaria and Cyprus.

>>714341520 (OP)
>companies make games with expiration dates
>games are killed left and right, people left out in the cold
>industry turns a deaf ear to imploring cries of gamers, tells them to move on and get over it
you reap what you sow. should have thought again before stealing people's money one time too many

>>714348415
c*nadian tax dollars at work

>>714345478
the EFF stands completely against software superfluously engineered to rely on remote servers to carry out calculations that could be performed locally. not to mention that they can't stand

>>714343894
What people are asking:
- Give us the tools/rights to host our own server when live service ends, and let us keep our games in a playable state

Anything more than this is not what we asked for, and if governments try something, it will be obvious

>>714348928
see
>>714345658

>>714343894
GPT ass post.

>>714341520 (OP)
Jews are already involved. There is literally nothing to lose.

>>714348314
You lost btw

Imagine if the retroactive immunity is just for games that are already dead and games that are still actively being given updates will be subject to this.

>>714341520 (OP)
Because I hate amerisrael and Jeff bezos.

>>714346742
Nta, but even if I could tell it was a joke, it's sometimes hard to tell apart jokes/sarcasm from genuine retardation on /v/.
Like someone defending multibillion corpos here. Is it a joke? Is it a troll? Is someone seriously a corpo bootlicker? Is it falseflagging?
Who knows

>>714342524
I'm wondering why such an obvious dysgenic subhuman gets to hijack the name of a Norse god.

>>714341520 (OP)
The EU can ignore it even if it pass.

>>714341520 (OP)
Because corps are lying cheating pieces of shit. If they refuse to be honest about a product or purchase there needs to be an outside force to do something. What are you some kind of libertarian retard? Why are so many people against their own self interests

>>714349393
At least I'm not crying over white genocide bnwo fetish mods getting deleted from mainstream modsite.

>>714349753
>it's real
https://x.com/Grummz/status/1937596568359883205
At least I can respect the consistency.

>>714349945
I doubt he(or /v/, as seen when he defended that) would be up in arms for fetish mods like diaper babyfur mods getting deleted from nexus.

new thread without shitty OP: >>714350806

>>714349753
chinksect moment

>>714351425
Amerimutt culture

>>714349021
effort not included

>>714341520 (OP)
Stop it. Think about indie multiplayer and live service games. YOU are killing games and you are going to ruin lives of devs.

>>714352439
LMAO

>>714341520 (OP)
>Finland
>400%
post benis

>>714341520 (OP)
Yeah man being able to return steam games is a fucking disaster.

death to jannies

>>714346107
Truke and their shabbos goyim and pet shitskin

>>714341520 (OP)
>Why are you getting the government involved? It's going to be bad... in the future... You'll see...
These posters never actually have any argument as to why this initiative is bad for gamers.
Also the baiting with picrel to kill the hype supports my notion that they are paid actors

>>714344865
I'm all for governmental control on corporations. I mean they wouldn't even exist on this scale without the government support. They're practically an extension of the government. If you want to be fucked in the ass by both, be my guest. I for one will always pick the lesser evil.

>>714352571
Benisumomo is benissimo.

>>714352703
The government is the biggest nickel and diming landlord in any country. You are blind.

>>714352751
How are gamers so powerful?

>>714352751
I hope someone makes a massive shillcuck compilation after we reach 1M

>>714352571
Benis Benisumomo's momo

I fell asleep and Binland hit 400%.
Whitest country to ever exist

>>714352846
GrudgeBITCH. You here?

>>714341520 (OP)
Signed it.

>>714343894
>You all know what could be coming if you vote for this petition right?
I don't. Pray do tell. :)

>one of the strongest industries in free market society is gambling, a sham industry that sells people the hope of not being fucking poor while robbing them blind

>literally all of the AAA game design trends of the times are motivated by psychologically manipulating people to spend money on skins because it works, and the only reason they're not still using lootboxes/outright gambling is because the EU started turning against them

>noooo dude it should just be between the consumer and the company! it's real democracy! supply and demand dude! competition is totally still real and consumers are definitely given the means to make truly informed purchases. it's only a problem for you to own nothing and be happy if it's the government doing it, if it's a corporation that's just the free market at work!

This nigga is blocking and banning everybody holy shit he is having a full meltie

>>714346620
>linux users providing the wrong answer to get people to supply the correct answer
does this actually happen

>>714346940
lmao as if he was capable of that

>>714341520 (OP)
>Hurr durr why do you want the government to stop food makers from slipping saw dust in your food? If you don't like it don't buy it
It's litteraly the job of the government to make laws, retard.

What are the chances that some Thor fanatic set up a bot farm spamming invalid signatures to discredit the whole thing?
Pic unrelated.

>>714343341
Aren't they making OpenAI retain all chats right now?

Glad they did USB-C but this one is mega gay.

>>714347607
The funny thing is that you would win the case in every European court. Hence why every corporation picks the US court every time. Because there is no country that's more pro-corporate than America.

>>714346061
3. Things will change positively but not in the most desired manner. Most devs who include killswitches will choose to display an expiration date of the game instead of ensure post-EOS playability.

>>714341520 (OP)
While i don't want to have the government involved, the game industry only move their asses when the alternative is letting the government fuck with em.
"Vote with your wallet" don't work with public companies, and most people didn't even were aware of this issue.

So it is what it is.

>>714353063
Yeah, he's losing it
thread was "NPC wants me to find a Voice Changer, where do I find it?"

>>714353096
I highly doubt it. And even if they were, there's enough legitimate signatures that it won't matter. The graphs don't look suspicious to me.

Do my eyes deceive me or is the greenbar further along than the red bar for the first time?
https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/

>>714353181
Mana gems is the "Melon" of his community.

>>714343589
It won't force anything, but if they start doing it for new games, they might not wanna catch the bad look for old ones either, and just do the right thing anyway.

>>714341520 (OP)
>Should really just be between consumers and the company.
That's not a thing in literally any other industry
Cars are heavily regulated, food is heavily regulated, movies are heavily regulated, gambling is heavily regulated, recreational drugs are heavily regulated, I could go on but the point is that videogame regulation is due for about 20 years and we're finally catching up

So assuming this leads to regulations, how bad will the press be for the last game to "die"?

Honestly the funniest thing about this initiative is that it may lead to more people realizing that they actually exist and they can make one themselves

>>714342524
What a faggot lmao

>>714352278
>no freedom
>good

>1M by today
>1.2M by tomorrow
>Ross talks with Rossmann about the future of the initiative in a stream soon-ish. Might not be as hopeful as it could be but it'll at least be very insightful.
Can't wait.

>>714342524
I know "some people" will start pretending he was just "playing the villain" but there's no doubt in my mind that that man is as much of an narcissistic as it appears, as was shown during the wow shitfest and before that by his disingenuous whinging about his pochven farms in EvE.
He's the video game equivalent of those "dur I was a marine that meand I totally was Rambo trust me" political podcasters and I'll be glad when he's gone.

>>714341912
Topkek

>>714341520 (OP)
The government and the NWO is already involved in videogames due to international IP law. This is just ensuring proper post-mortem support for software that can't be provided due to laws against breaking DRM, etc. that have already been leveled against emulators and such.

Lmao EUcucks will be starving for games soon.
No games continent.

>>714353384
Rossman looked so damn sad when Ross said he wanted to give up. Dude felt that after everything he's been doing for the last decade.

>>714353381
>ching chong ping pong
>let me spam shitdick
You can do that in your gamergate thread.

>>714353275
In a few minutes, it'll also soon surpass the daily average needed of 1,000,000/365=2740 signatures.

>>714353181
kinda based but you missed the opportunity to drop a maldavius figtree namedrop

>>714353361
The better question to ask what will be the last dead game ever?
It's going to be some shitty korean MMO I'll bet.

>>714349753
nu-gamergaters are embarrassing

>>714352785
Where did I say otherwise?

>>714353573
>the jews are actually there to protect me and not write laws to replace me in my own country

>>714341520 (OP)
>Why do you guys want government to get involved with games? Shit seems like a recipe for disaster.

>>714352880
We are the internet savviest people out there. For some reason finnish autism goes overdrive when it gains access to the interwebz!

>>714353545
Are Korean MMOs still even that popular? I'd expect a gacha.

>>714353642
With the term "lesser" evil.

>>714353573
Being an American should be classified as a mental disorder
Motherfuckers larp as as lolberts and inawoods settlers and "small government conservatives", meanwhile they cheer at the orange nigger empowering the executive to the point of Putin and cutting taxes and consumer protection regulation for gigacorps.

I love seeing /v/s reaction to SKG:
It's such a no brainer to support it. everyone supports it!
But no... we have to be le edgy contrarians. if everyone supports it, it must be...bad!
Oh no! Pirate Software, a gay nepo baby furry faggot is the only one opposing it so now we have to side with him!

Being an NPC that just opposes the current thing must be so hard in times like these lol.

>>714353647
translating statement
>please stop being sympathetic to actual meaningful policies like government regulation and consumer rights, billions have been spent to direct young men like you towards the meaningless spectacle of culture war

"Vote with your wallet" isn't a thing in shareholder capitalism. They don't give a fuck about you or your dollar, they do what shareholders want, which is maximum extraction, minimal upkeep. That's why you get a $80 game release with $1000 of added DLC and microtransactions and then the servers get shitcanned when it stops bringing in big money. So you don't buy the $80 game? There's someone who will, and then dump another several hundred into it after the initial purchase. They don't care about the average gamer, just the whales.

>>714353647
>the jews

>"pirate software"
>looks inside
>corporate bootlicker

>>714353814
Overwhelming majority of users actually support it, but due to the post count being removed what you're seeing is a few dozen indians that the jannies are allowing to shit up the threads 24/7. Said jannies are also constantly purging threads because they're being made to control the narrative

>>714353715
Went to a gook internet cafe recently, can confirm they are still popular.

>>714341520 (OP)
To tie two threads together, how does this affect stuff like Gamepass?

>>714353835
>jews don't want me to be a docile nigger playing video games
Choose a struggle commie faggot pls.

>>714353720
Ah. By that I meant I will always choose the side that benefits me the most in terms of which side controls which. It's a good thing there is atleast some disagreements within the system so people can still leverage stuff. I hate the EU with all my heart, but it's still not the worst thing we could have.

>>714353940
That one is a little more murky because the service itself has a start and end date, with clear guidelines of what you can and cannot expect from the service.

>>714353889
Absolutely not.
You have fags like
>>714349481
that really just want to oppose le current thing unironinically because they got socialised on 4chan

>>714341520 (OP)
>citizens involving government to preserve game ownership
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>investors involving government to invent more and more intellectual property rights/licensing/you will own nothing and be happy
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS

>>714353063
>help, help I'm getting review bombed
>uhh, I mean I'm getting attacked on social media
>n-no it's not worth doing anything about ahaha
He's like a little kid who kicked a football through someone's window and now his lies and getting out of hand

>>714353889
>a few dozen indians that the jannies are allowing to shit up the threads 24/7
It's very telling that the only news site I've heard of that is spreading an anti-SKG narrative is the fucking Indian Times

>>714353968
I will always see companies as the lesser evil as I can always choose not to do business with them. The government does not extend that grace, it does not respect the consent of the governed except when it needs votes every 4 years, and even then it's just lip service and then bombing Iran anyway.

>>714353945
being a docile nigger is the literal point of focusing people on culture war muh joos shit. they don't need to replace you with moronic subhumans or whatever if you've already been made into a useless faggot who only cares about how many nonwhites are in videogames.

>>714353945
This is a gaming board faggot. Cry about vidya being le brainwashing anti-aryan goyslop in /pol/.

>>714353940
It's a subscription so not really. You do pay for a pass on that one, and not any individual thing, and the duration of your access is plainly stated. Stuff like that and subscription-based MMOs are the least likely to be affected. Arguing for preserving games for the sake of it is a losing argument and won't be the focus of the initiative.

>>714354024
>he thinks that is a real user that genuinely holds that belief and not an astroturfing shillfaggot

>>714353063
imagine how many games he could have finished developing if he would invest all the time banning and deflecting in developing his game instead

>europeans DEMANDING that the government impose more regulations on them
this will never not be funny to me

>>714353940
If you're just paying the monthly fee to effectively rent the games then I don't think it would apply, as it *is* a service in that situation
Of course if you buy the game outright which they let you do, I assume any future releases on the gamepass would require an EoL thing, especially since they rotate them out. It could be similar to how delisted games on steam can still be downloaded and played, just no longer purchased by new customers

>>714353365
It is nice to be reminded that in the midst of the gigantic pile of shit that is modern politics, at least the EU cares about consumer right, and what's even better, has enough muscle to do something about it

>>714353850
>So you don't buy the $80 game? There's someone who will, and then dump another several hundred into it after the initial purchase. They don't care about the average gamer, just the whales.
Gacha does this all the time.

I know you are a faggot and gurgle Ross cum with a spoon but tell, have exceptions been made to what SKG proposes? Or this is the Bane speech from The Big Guy rises where Ross is saying he is giving back to the people without thinking how this will affect F2P, MMOs and similar models?
One anon pointed out that some games require servers for their inner game logic.

What happens then?

>>714354172
>you should let corporations screw over the consumer because regulations bad
The only reason you'd be opposed to consumer rights being upheld is if you were part of the problem

>>714354172
you hear us, europeans?! we don't WANT to own our games. we WANT to buy proprietary chargers every time we get a new phone. we WANT every multiplayer game to be filled to the brim with lootboxes. if everything isn't constantly getting shittier, how am i supposed to larp about being above everything like I do now?!

>>714354172
>citizens involving government to preserve game ownership
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>investors involving government to invent more and more intellectual property rights/licensing/you will own nothing and be happy
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSS

Yeah right, only investors have the right to impose more regulations on consumers using government.

If someone wants to buy my patented Patriot Panacea (cures gout the rickets impotence lethargy homosexuality anxiety and more) then that should be between me and the consumer.

>>714354092
>coping brown tranny
Many such cases, have you tried /pol/, it's full of you shitskin commies.

>>714354059
Yes, me too 99% of the time. Though corporations too cause unnecessary harm. And in those times the government can be used to limit it.

>>714354172
>on them
On companies.

>>714354172
European product standards are top notch and I am incredibly happy profit driven corporations are forced to abide by them, or I'd be eating hormonal chicken with huge but tasteless vegetables on plates with cancer causing plasticisers.

>>714354227
sure sure whatever you think mr eurofag go cry for your right to play video games while mbungo and mohammed destroy your country

>>714352571
Fins have always been based.

Gimi

>>714354012
>>714354145
>>714354187
EU laws override corporate ToS
When Valve had to enforce EU rulings to keep the European market plenty of features were removed to accommodate the refund policy.

I mean this seeks to be applied to the entire industry, no buts of ifs right?
It would be fucking funny if this kills gamepass and gacha.

>>714354304
The government is the one allowing them to be shitass monopoly men in the first place by protection them from competition via copyright, entry barriers in the market and increasing taxes that make it steeper and steeper for new companies to rise up. You need the government enforcing all those laws on your competitors in order to be a price gouging dickhead in the first place.

>>714354331
Not an argument.