Greatest RTS of all time. RIP WarCraft.

true

>>714350012 (OP)
you can still play warcraft 3 right now thoughever

>>714350012 (OP)
2v2 3v3 ffa
classics

its still pretty alive for its age

i wish the tft campaign was as good as roc

>>714350368
>POV: you're one of the ships in Dissension

>>714350012 (OP)
yup

>>714350012 (OP)
people making and playing custom maps is the sole reason this game is still relevant to this day, you niggers won't convince me otherwise

What's the best version for singleplayer?
Not reforged fuck you

>>714350581
lel

>all units are dmg sponges that beat each other with squeaky toy hammers
Shit game, sorry.

the music is amazing in this game

>>714350012 (OP)
>RIP WarCraft
What happened?

*slurps your moon wells*

>>714350986
WarCraft 4 will never see a light of the day. Especially WC3 that follows the Frozen Throne story.

>>714350986
WarCraft 4 will never see the light of the day. Especially WC4 that follows the Frozen Throne story.

for me it's Vampirism and Xhero siege

>>714351195
>>714351132
It’s just “the light of day”

>>714350795
1.27 to 1.29
Take your pick

>>714351451
kek that's a pretty op spell

>>714350368
>ruined by reforged
>can't play online with out reforged
>custom games are all dota
Looks dead to me.

>5 games of DotA
>then off to other mods like green td, pimp my peon, tree tag, footman frenzy and fighter of character

he was right

>>714351451
ruthless. even his fellow merchants were sold.

My life for the war

>>714350901
That's every game ever

>>714352171
His daughter abandoned her Chad prince bf to cavort with greenskins. Poor bastard.

>>714350012 (OP)
Anyone have the download link for the OG version?

>>714352754
and she murdered her father in the end.

>>714352951
https://tpirbay.site/torrent/4800281/Warcraft_3___Frozen_Throne_1_21

blizzard was never good

>>714353239
t. westwood

>all new custom campaigns FORCE you to use reforge or they don't work
thanks niggers

>>714350012 (OP)
Who had the better campaign?
Who had the better expansion?

>>714353239
zoom zoom

war3 was EXACTLY the moment they turned to shit

>>714353980
zug zug

>>714353626
As someone who played WC3 a decade after AoM I still think I like WC3's campaign a bit better. I just like Warcraft's old lore.

>>714353626
story/feel/script variety wise, WC3
Mechanically its AoM by a looong shot, especially if you play on Titan difficulty
WC3 is too ez

>>714352585
No, only shitty games are like that.

>>714350012 (OP)
most influential game of all time by far

>>714350012 (OP)
I still have original cds on the shelf, but those probably won't even work in ""modern"" windoozy.

>>714352754
She should've been with a real man like me...
t. Kael'Thas Sunstrider

>>714354980
>the precursor (franchise-wise) for the most famous MMO of all time
>the base game for a custom map/mod that would spawn an entire genre
>said spiritual sequel to the mod would signal to executives the effectiveness of F2P games, ushering in a new age where high budget live-service f2p games would become the norm
But did it change gaming for better or for worse?

>>714354885
There's no reason to make a single player campaign ridiculously difficult. Any competitive person who plays RTS games will play them online against other players anyway and in that regard, WC3 was lightyears ahead of AOM. Hence why WC3 was one of the biggest and most competitive RTS esports for a time whereis AOM was always a casual game without any meaningful competitive scene.

>>714354980
they copied from dune and C&C then added a warhammer 40k reskin
popular =/= influencial

>>714354907
People like you ruined Starcraft 2.

>>714355243
Shame it didn't influence more RTS games.

>>714355243
a little bit of both

>>714355243
mobas are shit

>>714351451
MAKE WAY, MAKE WAY, FOR OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR!!!!

>>714350012 (OP)
if it was any good it wouldnt have died

>>714355407
That's not why SC2 sucks ass.
Units in SC1 don't have that boring HP sponge problem either.

>>714355243
I think someone would have invented dota eventually without dota existing, although without being f2p it never would have got so popular, so I'm going to say that it was a net negative overall

>>714354980
if it was influential it wont be dead

>>714355741
It's not about how tanky individual units are, it's about how easily and how quickly you can deal game ending damage to another player

>>714355803
>>714355709
people still play wc3 extensively on a pro level. but the franchise itself is dead.

>>714355741
sc2 sucks ass cos its game which plays for itself with no strategic depth, its not really a strategy, just unit spam, most impressive thing you can do in it is some drop shit
compare it to coh or aoe or generals and you will immediately see difference

>>714355856
worst koreans are not people

https://youtu.be/egxzPAywNEs

>>714350012 (OP)
>Greatest RTS of all time.
Mine would be better if i didn't stop working on it

>>714355997
chinks and euros play it too

>>714355803
That's retarded. You don't seem to understand what the word influential means.

>>714355565
Skill issues.

Games like Dota are the most complex when it comes to multiplayer.

>>714355850
>>714355938
Yes. And?
How does that relate to warcraft3 units being boring HP sponges.

>>714356149
things which are currently popular and not dead and forgotten

>>714356081
>units keep hitting air until one of them falls over because an arbitary number reached 0
Any RTS game without healthbars that aren't just about boring numbers?

>>714356081
based, more?

>>714356545
Because games don't end with one drop in the main base they are much more fun

>>714355150
I'm still mad about what they did to Kael in BC. Pretty much everyone got fucked sideways in WoW but I feel with him they walked an extra mile.

>>714356585
No that's not at all what influential means you absolute dimwit. Do you think the original Doom wasn't influential because it's not popular anymore?

>>714356710
SC1 games are just like that and again, they don't have HP sponge units.
So you don't need HP sponges to have good games like that.
Sponges suck.

>>714356638
Pretty much just Dawn of War, it does have health bars for entire squad, but at least there's a lot of glory kills which fixes the units just dropping like sacks of dirt

>>714350183
Reforged made it way shittier and buggier.

>>714357795
it's fun if you're good

>>714358594 (me)
Oh, and I'm talking about the original game, because they forced an "update" for the original games that made them use the new, shittier engine.

>>714357795
It's actually really difficult to deal game ending damage to an entrenched player in scbw, so people can come back even if they are fully contained on two bases
The only matchup that's explosive and unstable is zvz because the zergling exists

>>714358725
Literally the worst thing I've experienced in PC gaming.
I used to come back & play WC3 on Battlenet every now and then, I even had the physical copy of the game and Frozen Throne on my physical, real life desk, one day I went to launch it and there was an update which straight up made the game not work on my computer. I later found out that was "Reforged". Game literally went from working to not working. 0/10 Blizzard.

I had to go and pirate the old (Pre-Reforged) WC3 so I could continue playing

What a slut

>>714350901
Unironically this. I found it fucking insufferable in 2002.

>>714356585
Retard lol try a dictionary

>>714352987
Always bothered me how in the lore she deserts her people in favor of the Orcs and then literally commits patricide which is the reaso why in WoW she's living off in bumfuck nowhere (no the Orcs didn't take her in) as an outcast and then we're supposed to think she's a good person because ____? Because she refused to help Arthas protect Stratholme from the Scourge occupation or something? The official lore is retarded.

>>714360798
>she's living off in bumfuck nowhere
Is Theramore bumfuck nowhere?

They should buff janissaries.

>piercing damage nerfed
LMAO GET FUCKED INHUMAN RANGIES

>>714361048
Yeah

>>714351849
>host custom map
>actually edit the map to have some busted OP item hidden away where I can get it
>roll over everyone in the lobby while they're still figuring out the rules
It's the most niggerish thing I've ever done in gaming.

>>714361453
A friend of mine did that in Graal. Smuggled in an OP item that killed anyone in one hit into custom content he made that got added to a server, then he went on a rampage killing people in public. A GM showed up and he killed them with it too then got banned.