I almost feel bad for Druckmann. Almost. He finally got his oppertunity to make a big budget Hollywood story and he fucked it up and has to go crawling back to video games. If he wasn't such an insufferable dickhead it would be sad.

oh thank god for a moment I thought this was going to be that he left the company or cancelled intergalatic.
tlou s1 was shit, i was never going to watch s2 anyway. but if it's apparently much worse, i wonder how exactly it was bungled?

>>714358991 (OP)
>Since we’re talking about TV, one time I gave some direction to Pedro Pascal. Dropping names. I think he was frustrated by my direction. He started joking. He said, “Do you like art?” I got a little defensive. “Yeah, do you like art?” And he said, without missing a beat, “It’s the reason I wake up in the morning. It’s why I live and breathe.”
I don't, I think him getting owned this hard is incredibly funny

>>714359139
It followed the plot of the game, which everyone hate so it was doomed to fail.

>>714359297
Except the definition of "art" that Druckman has is completely different from everyone else.

>>714359464
a wannabe hack fucking up so bad that an actor has to ask him if he even likes art and he can only give a "y-yeah I do, what about you?" answer and then gets hit with a fucking ratatouille "I don't like art, I LOVE art" is just so fucking funny. especially since he's the one telling this story that makes him look bad!

>>714359336
TLOU2 was critically acclaimed so that can't be it
>inb4 UHH I DISAGREE I DISAGREE
not relevant to my question. Why am I asking /v/ I should just google it

>>714359729
>TLOU2 was critically acclaimed so that can't be it
Are you retarded?

>>714358991 (OP)
Can't wait for Intergalactic to bomb.

>>714359139
>>714359729
So why are you here

>>714359729
>critically acclaimed
I don't... care?

>>714359864
?

>>714359336
>It followed the plot of the game
Barely, it's a toothless take on the story of TLOU2.

>>714359729
>TLOU2 was critically acclaimed
When the so-called "critics" have worse abilities and are more intellectually incompetent than a retarded toddler, they don't really get to count for anything.

who cares

>>714360909
The point is TLOU S1 was lauded, TLOU1 and TLOU2 were lauded, so saying "oh TLOU S2 reviewed poorly because the plot of TLOU2 sucked" makes no logical sense

post the webm of him at the show premiere and no one taking his picture so i can laugh at it

>>714360992
>TLOU S1 was lauded
Because women got wet over Pedro Pascal, it was shit otherwise
>TLOU1
Because normalfags and journoniggers were desperate for validation and wanted to be seen as mature. Under any other circumstance it'd be a subpar game.
>TLOU2
Only lauded by critics and terminally online twitter trannies. Normalfags hated the story because Joel and they didn't like Abby since she looked like a dude(sorry but normalfags do NOT like women that look like men)
>TLOU Season 2
1. Pedro was killed off so you pissed off the horny normalfag women.
2. The new protags are a potato and some random chick you hardly know. The audience don't care for your "artistic" bullshit, the characters suck and can't act for shit.

>>714361273
There was a good point in one of the previous threads about how TLOU2's narrative could fly because it is a video game which benefits from playing as Abby and fills out the weak gaps by gameplay and narration woven into it, but when you strip the gameplay away, it really reveals how paper thin the plot actually is in the end.

>>714360992
>"oh TLOU S2 reviewed poorly because the plot of TLOU2 sucked"
It was reviewed poorly though? The public hated it, most game reviewers hated it, it was even the center of quite a lot of ridicule it was so bad. The vast consensus was the story and characters were both extremely bad, and the gameplay being soporific didn't help save the game.

Unless you mean old dying medias like Kotaku or stuff no one read, but who even reads Kotaku?

>>714358991 (OP)
>He finally got his oppertunity to make a big budget Hollywood story and he fucked it up and has to go crawling back to video games.
I'd expect the plot of Intergalactic to be full of anger and spite because of that. Dude tasted Hollywood for a little bit finally, but now he had to go back to vidya full time again, bit of a downgrade.

I'm not sure who I dislike more between Pedro Pascal and Neil Druckman, would happy watch them both burn alive

>HBO comes up to him and asks would you like to make more money
>He replies yea sure

>/V/: haha this pretentious bitch wanted to make it in Hollywood hes so obsessed. anything that isn't vague half assed writing like myazaki games must be movie games

>>714361910
Hi Neil.

>>714361586
it has a 93 on metacritic and a 90 on steam. what a bizarre thing to try and gaslight people about. you're supposed to say "it reviewed well, which is why I hate journalists!" not "it reviewed poorly bro trust me dude"

I fucking wish ND let some devs to work on a side project under other devs wings.
Don't care about woke that much, but I wish some ND devs can work on something fun far away of Drunkmann autistic yelling about lesbian

>>714359729
>critically acclaimed
>part 2 is 5.8 userscore on metacritic
>season 2 has 3.8 userscore on metacritic

>>714362082
Game journalists are nothing special. They think they are because theyve been catered to their entire lives and have been asked their opinion on everything. Little do they know they are about as fucking stupid as you can get

>>714362193
>userscore
lol

>>714359831
>Game that came out in July has more people playing then game that came out months ago.

>>714358991 (OP)
He always wanted to be the head of writing. But turns out nobody is interested about his stories about jewish lesbians being in love.

>>714360909
This has to be fake

>>714358991 (OP)
>I almost feel bad for Druckmann. Almost
Even that is too kind for a man who considers you cattle.

>>714359729
>critically acclaimed.

>>714362193
>critically acclaimed
They never said it was for normal people
It's for critics who were paid to with jewish money so it's true, it's critically acclaimed

druckmann is such a hack.
if people here consider already kojimbo a hack then what is this subversive shabbo?
hideo at least knows whats good about games and often makes a decent mix, druckmann on the other hand is only putting modern pop shit into a lame 3rd person shooter and calls it a day.

fuck druckmann,he´s a incompetent rat.

>>714362407
It raped all Snoy ports, I'm sorry. All of them.

>>714362352
I would rather hear it from thousands of real gamers than a handful of possibly paid off corrupt fucking critics. Get your shit together tlou2 faggot. The game wasnt as good as the first one get over it

NEXT GUY

>>714360394
>Barely, it's a toothless take on the story of TLOU2.
But they kept the synagogue tour right?

>>714359297
>>714359714
holy shit

>>714360909
lmao

>>714362605
>better post apocalyptic setting than TLOU too
I still haven't bothered to finish the first game

>>714362605
too bad that all of the sony exclusives share the worst properties a game can have.
graphical realism over a decent art style.
cinematic cutscenes instead of fun gameplay.
magnetic combat over free flowing movement.
tutorials galore and yellow paint over mysteries and hidden mechanics.

sony games are for people who don´t play games.

>>714362827
>>714362827
>>714362827

>>714363213
Not Stellar Blade
Despite the graphic realism it still manages to look good regardless

>>714362637
But gamers who bought the game on steam have it at very positive

Lemme guess jewish shills are the reason it's rated so highly

>>714363321
People who bought the game on steam only bought it for the gameplay and gameplay and build quality wise it was fine. The gameplay and atmosphere is super good in tlou2. Also Steam didnt play TLOU in 2013 when it came out so they have no idea the true weight to what they did in part 2. Its just another zombie adventure game that looks and plays good

>>714358991 (OP)
>I almost feel bad for Druckmann.
Don't feel bad for Cuckmann, that male feminist Cuckoldmann.

>can't make it in Hollywood
>go make video games instead
>get hyped for making the game equivalent of a B-tier Hollywood movie but it has high production values and makerting so people buy it in droves
>leverage this success to get to Hollywood
>still can't make it in Hollywood because you suck
I sure wouldn't want to be this guy.

>>714363427
Naughty dog is so dead. Neil and Halley had so much contempt for the original game because it was co directed by a smart man aka Bruce Straley. Neil druckmann wanted Elena to die in uncharted 2 or some shit by the way. Fucking retarded fuck

>>714362427
It isn't. Much the same as this isn't fake. Understanding basic momentum physics is too difficult for the "mature" gamer that only plays "mature" games.

>>714363521
Why you hurt me?

>>714363409
Part 1 is a generic zombie game with a loli daughterwaifu. I bet you think the left behind dlc is utter shit because of a particular moment.

Tonnes of video games have forgettable stories with decent gameplay but for some reason tlou2 turns everyone into phd literature analysts

>shit game
>shit show
When will this hack rope already?

>>714363608
Because 2 was full of retard journalist bait. Its the most pretentious game to ever exist. People want to justify part 2s story being good because of how insanely good the first one was as in what it brought to the table. It wasnt Metal Gear it was its own thing. Like No Country For Old Men in a game. It wrapped up perfectly and everything had weight to it.

>>714363464
Jokes on him, Hollywood is fucking dying

>>714363501
I wonder who kept that fucker in check during Uncharted's time and the original TLOU.

>>714363521
what retard is playing this?

>>714363725
1. Last of Us was not insanely good
2. Never compare Cormac McCarthy to this piece of shit ever again

>>714359729
>Critically acclaimed
Oh wow, a bunch of hacks that are either paid directly by the creators of the media they are "judging" or indirectly paid through access too it said that it's good so that must be true!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx7GCG7Fuwk

>>714363794
The Last of Us is literally Sonys best story game ever. And its not even close. The story was done unbelievably well and it wrapped up on an ambiguous note and it is what built up the ps4 essentially. No game ever has recreated what that felt like. It was so thought provoking and dove deep into human relationships and the complexities of them. You are clueless.

>>714363725
So if tlou2 had male protagonists it would be good. It's just not logical for females to do anything except spread their legs and push babies. Kojima turned EVA from a spy to a breeding project for male super soldiers but that's A OK

>>714363779
A game journalist from IGN

>Season 3
Will it be an inverse GOT where the new shit is better or will it somehow shit the bed even harder?

>>714363945
And you're a troll. Fuck off.

>>714363967
No i never said that. Plenty of gamers love female protags like Tomb Raider, Resident evil has a few, Silent Hill has one even, etc. Thats not an excuse. You can make stuff right with women protags. TLOU2 was just a pretentious poorly written piece of shit and it replaced the male lead just because he was a male.

>>714358991 (OP)
Druckman had the most epic failure of the casting couch ever

>>714359714
lolwut

>>714358991 (OP)
>Revenge is BAD
>BURN PALESTINE TO THE GROUND THIS IS ANOTHER HOLOCAUSTER
What did Neil mean by this?

>>714364105
Youre probably pissed because youre a fucking tendie or PC fag who had to wait a decade to play it.

>>714363501
Kikes are eternal cucks since their religion is feminazi shit, of course they are taught that men must be miserable and remove hot women

>>714359297
kek imagine getting schooled by Pedro. kikemann has to have a self reflection moment after he got sacked by HBO and have his "art" be hated by normies, but who am I kidding? his massive ego will prevent that.

>>714364181
Neil wants you to believe revenge is bad, but surely he doesnt believe that israel getting revenge on palestine is good, right guys?

>>714358991 (OP)
Well the show can't be any more fucked than it is now so his work is done.

>>714359297
Next druck joint should be a fighter
Untalented pretentious Jew showdown: boogaloo

>>714364192
I played it on my PS3, got through it and took it to Gamestop because I knew I would never touch it again.
'member taking old games to Gamestop?

>>714363967
First of all, the number one job of a woman is to bear children.
Second of all, TLOU2 gets a lot of hate because it came out in a time when Sony was censoring the fuck out of every weeb game coming out from Japan or just anything from east asia in general meanwhile TLOU2 was given a free pass up for everything up to and including explicit sex.
Abby is disgusting to look at, and I fucking like women with toned muscles, FFS, if Cuckmann wanted to have a muscular FeMC so fucking badly, he could have gone to /gif/ to get an actual idea of what they looked like.
And he didn't have to make her an insufferable cunt and kill off Joel
But no his fucking jewish brain wouldn't allow it.

>>714364120
>no you CAN NOT
>I IGNORE YOUR REALITY AND SUBSTITUTE MY OWN
>LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU SEE I PUT MY FINGERS IN MY EARS

>>714358991 (OP)
i knew it

>>714363521
This person is trying to switch the direction they are holding at the top of the loop, which is a reasonable thing to do, and being this is Mania, they probably didn’t do a good job of introducing Sonic’s controls, unlike the originals.

>>714363320
>look good regardless
it straight up doesn´t. like most korean games, female character models are abmyssal and range from almost normal looking (tachy) to literal doll (eve or this other bug eye). male models look like another species (almost normal looking male).
world is dark/brown/green with sparesly used colors execpt for particles (which normies love btw) in your typical post apocalyptic mech hell (automata did it better, hellpoint did it better).

so yeah, one could say, stellar blade looks special but it only applies if your main console is a ps5 (my condolences) and you´re thirsty for non AAA western shit.

Why do people praise Stellar Blade visuals?
It´s tits and ass

>>714364635
>they probably didn’t do a good job of introducing Sonic’s controls, unlike the originals.
The fuck are you on about? the original genesis games didn't have a tutorial either, just fucking go right, figure it out, and hold on to rings to not die to the badnik

>>714364742
OK? And?
Tits and ass are great, I love how sexy or cool Even can look in these outfits, I also like the bleak world we're put into as well, and near the end of the game You make a journey into space via a space elevator and it is so fucking kino from start to finish

I feel fucking bad for us. Time for him to make huge budget video games with mediocre stories that normies will eat up because of the "FROM THE CREATOR OF LAST OF US" tagline.

>>714364635
>which is a reasonable thing to do
I pray you AND that journo do not have access to any kind of motor vehicle. You're both violent threats to every other motorist on the road.

>>714365018
I don't feel bad in the slightest, the economy is going to shit and people are going to cut back even more.
Nobody is going to waste $70-$80 on a dogshit game.

>>714358991 (OP)
I was hoping he'd leave video games and piss off to hollywood. :(

>>714365018
>that normies will eat up
They didn't even eat up 2.

>>714364635
>which is a reasonable thing to do
Sure, for a first time error its understandable. Then he repeats the mistake multiple times. And decides this footage would be great for my review for the game.

>>714358991 (OP)
>Druckmann
>Fee bad for him

>>714365360
Sold 4 million more than the original did on PS3. Though to be fair, it only sold about half as much as the Remastered PS4 version did.

>>714364869
The originals had levels that forced you through the loops, teaching you how they work. It’s similar to the start of 1-1 in Mario, a well crafted level can teach you the game without a tutorial.

>>714364869
>OK? And?
nice to look, shit to play. that´s what i´m saying all the time. it became mandatory for sony games to have a photo mode, for what?
sony can make movies, but their exclusives are not worth shit if you interested in gaming.

>>714365565
>shit to play
I humbly disagree, the gameplay is very solid for what is pretty much a developer's first ever action game on a console

>>714364105
Tendie mad that John and Ellie were way more memorable than any Bing Bing shit.

>>714362193

>>714365563
How hard is it to understand the concept of momentum?
No I don't mean for a 5 year old or young child. A GROWN ASS ADULT WITH A COLLEGE DEGREE has no excuse for failing to comprehend basic momentum.
When you drive a car or steer a bike 360 degrees to the right do you magically start steering left? NO YOU FUCKING DON'T. Because momentum doesn't operate on left and right, it operates on forwards and backwards. Why would you try and move backwards while moving forwards and expect to still go forwards? That's called being a fucking retard.

>>714365801
I have never owned a Nintendo console. You have no way to defend this B-movie level schlock other than deflecting to attack games for literal toddlers

>>714365801
>John and Ellie were way more memorable than any Bing Bing shit.
In 20 years people will still know what Link and Mario are, don't be this fucking arrogant

>>714365563
Buddy I am sleep deprived as fuck right now and I can think better than you can
Get out of here

>>714362605
p5r sold that little? wow

>>714365249
We still got the Intergalactic flop to look forward to

I don't follow the games or the show, there's gonna be a third season? What's there left to do?

>>714365810

>>714361273
What really needs to be highlighted is Druckman wasnt the lead writer on TLoU, he just mamaged to weasel all of the credit.

Big fish in a small pond moves to big pond, in which he finds out he's a small fish. Many such cases.

>>714366137
Season 2 covers only first half of second game.

>>714366137
I think S2 only went halfway though TLOU2. I don't think they have introduced the asian tranny yet either.

>>714366137
>What's there left to do?
Ellie and her girlfriend stumble into a synagogue, long nosed girlfriend is going to preach Ellie about judaism. Then she is going to kill a dog and whole bunch of people in her quest of revenge, then back down at the very last minute because Neil doesn't want her protected character die.

>>714364742
Dude what are you talking about. Automata looked like fucking dogshit. It was the most brown game I've played in an era where we have gotten over piss filter generation of games.

>>714366280
That's not quite true. He WAS the lead writer of TLOU, but the Producer(who's job is to make sure everyone isn't being a fucking retard) had to whip some sense into the retard since he wanted the game to sell and succeed. That's Straley. Straley made sure all of Druckmann's retarded ideas were blocked and never saw the light of day. He probably had some hand in writing or at least guidance but there's a reason the quality dipped with the DLC after Straley'd left the company.

>>714358991 (OP)
Everything this creative parasite is known for he stole from someone else at Naughty Dog. The first project that was entirely his own was TLOU2 and we know how that turned out. Yet somehow that warrants him being made studio head.

>>714366134
Him and Alex Garland laughing at the retards that are supposed to play that slop was pretty funny, though.

>>714358991 (OP)
jews are slowly losing power over the fact that they fucked up so much in the middle east, these are the first effects of their victim cards expiring

>>714358991 (OP)
Glad to see he's finally transitioned

>>714360909
i beat the fucking mermalair as a kid. this is unbelievable

>>714364742
Dilate you eternally assraped mutt.

>>714366796
Yeah I hope that "muzzie" candidate wins the mayoral election in NYC just to spite those fuckers

>>714366840
Anon, this is the yellow paint generation. They'd struggle to play children's edutainment games for Kindergartners since it doesn't tell them what to do every step of the way.

>>714358991 (OP)
another women-hating incel kino is coming

>>714366936
Yeah as much as I love Stellar Blade that game has yellow paint too.
Granted it's not painfully obvious

>>714359791
he means sony bought critics and awards

>>714359297
Hearing this from the guy in movies like WW84 and Kingsmen 2 while on the set of Last of Us is laughable. Cuckman deserves the humiliation as well, but Christ.

>>714358991 (OP)
>has to start writing a new story
>leaves
lol!

>release TLOU part 2
>people say it's shit and the story is a fucking joke compared to the first one
>FUCKING SEXIST INCEL GAMERS
>release season 2 of the show
>even normies and tranny lovers think it's shit

Lmao MASSIVE viewership drop off, it's almost like the chud gamers were right

>>714362407
What is all time peak ?

>>714367160
he was kicked out since s2 flopped hard

>>714363321
The game and its faults have been known for a long time. The people who bought it on Steam were people who were going to praise it (genuinly or not) regardless.

Sony fanboys saying this is the most exciting game they've ever played was something else

>>714358991 (OP)
NEXT GUY!

>>714367724
>The Chad Creatividad
>The Virgin "Auteur"

>>714365801
>when you're game is so memorable that you can't even remember the main characters name
What did he mean by this?

>>714367350
obviously he doesnt know, so why ask him?

>>714366063
>>714358991 (OP)
Just to fuck with Neil, they should bring Bruce and that lady who helped write the first games script to come in and ask them what to do next with the story.

>>714365924
Right, but the game doesn’t teach that to the player, how are they supposed to know whether the game controls in screen or character space?

>>714359297
Why the actual fuck was he giving directions to actors? Did JK Rowling walk around the Harry Potter set annoying all the actors too? Such a fucking cunt man.

>>714367001
>>714366936
To be fair, when stellar blade came out, there were plenty of anons who also got lost trying to find places to reach until someone would point out where the yellow paint was. The issue is that modern level design nowadays can make it confusing on what part of the levels can be interacted with so that had to make it completely obvious on where to go. Especially in cases where you have to shimmy or scale through a concrete wall face and you don't know which part of the rubble and broken concrete can actually be latched on to, so you place yellow paint on it.

>>714368098
He directed 2 episodes.

>>714358991 (OP)
>hollywood finally told the silly jew to go back to his children's toys
thank god
i was genuinely worried the hack would get involved with an actual film after streamingslop became boring for him

>>714368079
By the fact they have acceleration rather than needing to hold a run button. There's also that trying to turn left because you missed something having a hard skid if you're moving too fast indicating it's momentum and as such isn't left and right but forwards and backwards. By the time the player reaches the loop they should know that Sonic has momentum and moving left(backwards) kills your forwards momentum.
At that point only a complete retard would display such an act of retardation when they go through the loop. Why would you suddenly be moving left at the top when you know that it operates on forwards and backwards logic?
That's why I used the car or bike example. When you turn 360 degrees at the 180 degree mark do you start moving backwards or do you keep moving forwards and complete the loop?
Any fucking child could tell you the answer, the fact a grown ass adult can't is a god damn travesty. God help him if he claims he's "mature" and can't even solve basic momentum physics.

>>714364635
yes. once or twice.
but the morons who judge video games will perform the exact same action fifteen times and get the exact same result fifteen times, and their response is to assume that it's the game that's at fault

>>714358991 (OP)
>Season 1 was the first game and it's prequel DLC
>Season 2 was the second game
The fuck is season 3 gonna be?

>>714368563
It is so fucking infuriating, absolutely mentally torturous to see someone play a video game in such a way that they EXPECT the same input to have vastly different results than when they did it last time, and they get mad that the game is delivering consistent results. these people are so poisoned by gacha and RNG.. or maybe it's shit like tiktok and youtube shorts where scrolling up causes a different video to pop up every time. i don't know. but it's so retarded seeing "wtf i pressed the dash button instantly after jumping and my dash was too low, better try it again a few dozen times"

>>714368689
introducing a new faction

>>714368169
Yeah that's what I meant, the yellow paint is there but it was a reward for looking around instead of the game just saying "go here dipshit"

>>714366914
can´t because i still have my unmutilated dick.
how about you go back to photomode and shoot all the great visuals of your cinematic experience.

>>714363725
>Its the most pretentious game to ever exist
>>714364120
TLOU2 was just a pretentious poorly written piece of shit

There's nothing pretentious about it. Care to prove your claim or do we just stop here, after we've established you're using words you don't understand?

>and it replaced the male lead just because he was a male.

Oh so you don't understand why they "replaced" the lead. You're adding your own interpretation because it makes it easier for you to attack the game

>>714359729
>TLOU2 was critically acclaimed so that can't be it

Because video games have very low standards. When the same storyline went to prestige TV and everyone hated it as well, then the gaslighting became impossible to maintain

>this thread

>>714362407
The American education system at work

>>714359297
>He started joking
Cuckman, he wasn't joking. He was mocking you.

>>714364742
This post killed the ironic weebs.

>>714370125
>There's nothing pretentious about it
There is but you'll just go "nuh uh, it's super duper well written because the characters said fuck"
The overall theme of the game... Or should I say the overall theme of the story, as there are two seperate themes running opposingly at all times, the narrative is trying to push the idea that revenge is horrible, that it harms and destroys you as a person and leaves you broken. The problem is that that ideal doesn't carry over into gameplay, in fact it's the polar opposite, it thrives and thirsts for violence, it wants you to kill it rewards you for being a violent psychopath.
So the game is saying "Wow murder sure is bad and evil and you're a vile, disgusting person for killing this individual... Now FLAY YOUR ENEMIES, EAT THEIR FLESH, DEVOUR THEIR EYEBALLS AND MAKE THEIR BRAINS A CANVAS ON THE WALLS"
Kinda ruins the concept. Like why are these generic mobs different from the named characters? Remember the very essence of this story is that the random mob in the first game was the secondary protag's father. Yet now we just kill another couple hundred mobs and the cycle totally ends because Ellie let the tranny who also killed a couple hundred mobs go.
You've just taken your intended theme, popped a couple laxatives and dropped a diarrhea shit all over it like a gay furry wearing a diaper.
The game wants you to take it seriously but the way it really works is that the gameplay never happens. The only moments that happen canonically are the story cutscenes so the gameplay isn't connected at all, except it wants to say it is making the entire game more schizophrenic than the local schizos on /v/.
How is that not pretentious? How can the game be taken seriously when it actively shits on it's own themes the moment you have control?

>>714368461
This is Mania, not Sonic 1, so you haven’t been taught momentum at this point. They just assume you know how Sonic works because it’s a glorified fan game. Which is also what you are doing - if you haven’t played the older Sonic games, why would you know they are about momentum?

The Cuphead video is a way better example, because there it is unambiguous that the journalist is mentally deficient.

>>714358991 (OP)
Not even his fault to be honest, the one episode he directed and wrote was easily the best one. Every other episode was emotionally hollow and Bella Ramsey completely phoned it in.

>>714359464
He started his career in games as a programmer, it's not really surprising he doesn't have any sort of normal person's understanding of art. They never should've let him out of the mines in the first place, Naughty Dog never had a shortage of ideas guys and lead devs with actual talent.

>>714370401

The TV series had taken considerable liberties when it came to portraying the story, some scenes portray characters in a different tone compared to the game. Regardless, this is a stupid argument to make: the strength of TLoU2 was weaving in the story and its themes with the gameplay, something that a TV show obviously cannot replicate

>>714363945
It's hot garbage. I'm sorry it was the first game you played at age 10.

>>714358991 (OP)
dude is a faggot lover and doesn't deserve any praise. he should get used to putting my fries in the bag

>>714371357
>no camera flashes

>>714371157
>so you haven’t been taught momentum at this point
If you were a first time player, you absolutely were, you're seeing it from the perspective of someone spin dashing and drop dashing everywhere, run through green hill act 1 as if you'd never touched a sonic game before, look at how everything operates. Your saying it's not teaching you momentum but you're also going into the game knowing how to play Sonic, knowing and understanding momentum. You know how it works which is why you're speaking like that. You 100% know how momentum works as a first timer by that point in the level unless you're mentally retarded.

>>714368689
dog shit just like the first 2

>>714371045
>the narrative is trying to push the idea that revenge is horrible, that it harms and destroys you as a person and leaves you broken

The narrative is about exploring revenge. The cost of it is one part, the other is showing what can drive a person to go to such lengths as the two protagonists, as well as how both of them feel they are in the right to do so. None of them see the PoV of the other, only the player does.

>it thrives and thirsts for violence, it wants you to kill it rewards you for being a violent psychopath

You don't get rewards from killing enemies - on higher difficulties fighting is the last resort, as you will always lose more resources than you would gain. Violence in the game is brutal but it's never portrayed as something to seek out - you kill your enemies in gruesome ways but they return the favour when they get the upper hand. The fact NPCs call out the names of the people (or pets) you kill is a little on the nose but it further adds to the idea that you're causing more harm than it is immediately obvious.

>So the game is saying "Wow murder sure is bad and evil and you're a vile, disgusting person for killing this individual... Now FLAY YOUR ENEMIES (...)"

Get help

>Remember the very essence of this story is that the random mob in the first game was the secondary protag's father. Yet now we just kill another couple hundred mobs and the cycle totally ends because Ellie let the tranny who also killed a couple hundred mobs go

Ellie "stops the cycle" because she finally gets over her grief and regret, not because she suddenly sees that killing someone is wrong (which isn't something the game is saying, either).

>You've just taken your intended theme, popped a couple laxatives and dropped a diarrhea shit all over it like a gay furry wearing a diaper.

Get help.

So no, you don't know what pretentious means. Game is extremely down to earth and you're confusing "pretentious" with "hypocritical"

>>714359139
>i wonder how exactly it was bungled?
It LITERALLY copied the Last of Us 2 AND moved the JOEL IN ONE up to episode two (2) of season two (2).

>>714366559
Never forget that Druckmann's original pitch for TLOU was that the infection only affects women, which is why Ellie or an equivalent character would've been important since she wasn't affected by the infection. It's like an H-game plot when you write it out and he saw nothing wrong with it while everyone else did.

>>714359831
Lost Legacy doesn't deserve to be in that photo since it's the only time old Naughty Dog (Amy's version) was back.

>>714362876

They didn't. I wonder how much racist attacks directed at the game/cast/devs played a part in dropping the fact Dina's Jewish. Then again, it has no bearing on the plot, yet for some detractors that was incredibly important...

>>714359297
Imagine being clowned by Pedro Mescal of all people.

>>714358991 (OP)
I don't get it.

Why would he and that other cunt makes such a public statement? If they had just fucked off no one would've known. No one is gonna watch s3 anyway.

>>714372572
Exactly, but remember that TLOU2 totally isn't just a shitty guro and ryona game with a AAA budget.

>>714367942
Amy had NOTHING to do with the Last of Us, she was busy doing prototypes for Uncharted 4 because she wanted new mechanics to be introduced with the move to PS4.

Bruce can't unfuck what Neil did. You don't kill Joel and expect normies that ate that Joel up to accept that. That ain't no Etch A Sketch. This is one doodle that can't be undid or however Zoomer writing of 2007 said it.

>>714372354
>literally proves my point and goes "nuh uh"
And this is why no one takes NDfags seriously. Only Crash and Jak fans are good people. TLOU and Uncharted are dogshit jankfests with awful AI that's paraded around as good when it gets stuck in doorways all the damn time.

>>714373486

I directly addressed the points you made, what do you mean by "going "nuh uh""?

>>714371209
>TLOU
>gameplay

>>714374343
finish the book fat fuck

>>714359297
kek imagine getting owned by Fag Pascal

>>714364014
>>714368689
season 3 is supposedly from abby's POV, just like in the game

it's hilariously funny that his hackery wasn't tolerated in hollywood where he desperately wanted to be, results matter, and season 2's ratings/fan support cratered. it might be too late for manzin to save it

>>714374075
>None of them see the PoV of the other, only the player does
That wasn't even part of my statement but ok
>You don't get rewards from killing enemies
Lie, you do, not often but it can happen. Also more on this in a bit.
>on higher difficulties
We aren't talking about your Dante Must Die playthrough we're talking about a normalfag player's first run through the game, as normalfags are the target audience of the game, so unfortunately your point is void there.
>Violence in the game is brutal but it's never portrayed as something to seek out
That's a lie, the very reward for killing enemies is that brutality. The game was advertised heavily with this feature. Why advertise a feature you don't want the player to engage with? Why even include it?
>The fact NPCs call out the names of the people (or pets) you kill is a little on the nose but it further adds to the idea that you're causing more harm than is immediately obvious
And yet it's never brought up that's the problem. For a game with so much violence and that tries to portray violence as either bad or an unfortunate fact of life, it goes way too far and enters a fetishistic region that's more akin to liveleak. That isn't going to carry the effect you want, you've reached the Mortal Kombat Fatalities tier. So you've broken the very ideal you were trying to portray as the player doesn't see the mobs as people but as what they are, mobs of enemies to kill.
>Get help
He says for accurately describing the games schizophrenic dissonance between story and gameplay.
>Ellie "stops the cycle" because she finally gets over her grief and regret
After creating another couple hundred Abby's in the process. Oh wait, that doesn't count because it's gameplay. Funny you disregard that fact and don't even acknowledge the game's schizophrenia. Whatever the end result of her "breaking the cycle" of THAT specific revenge, she's generated another 100+ in the process.

>>714358991 (OP)
NEXT GUY
NEXT GUY

>>714358991 (OP)
I was hoping he was stepping away from ND entirely, not just the TV shows. My disappointment is immense

>>714358991 (OP)
>When you jew so hard even the jews in hollywood are put off

>>714368563
>>714368758
I get the impression that they're "bug testing". It's the equivalent of "jump into this wall for half an hour to test the collision" except they're "showcasing" bugs to the public in their "review" instead of playing the game normally. They repeat it multiple times so they can shit on the game and go "see? SEE? Consistent bug!"

>>714366063
>even well known holywood industry plant like pedro pascal is dumbfounded at this guy

>>714368823
>beurre d'arachnide
Spider butter?

>>714375583

>That wasn't even part of my statement but ok

It wasn't because you don't understand the game, I was merely pointing out what was it going for

>We aren't talking about your Dante Must Die playthrough we're talking about a normalfag player's first run through the game, as normalfags are the target audience of the game, so unfortunately your point is void there.

You will get more resources from exploring and avoiding enemies rather than fighting, that's true regardless of difficulty

>That's a lie, the very reward for killing enemies is that brutality

Subjective

>The game was advertised heavily with this feature.

If it was advertised (I have to take your word for it), it was to showcase the technology (which might still be the best there is) and, more likely, to prod the players into looking forward to it just to pull the rug from them later

>Why advertise a feature you don't want the player to engage with? Why even include it?

Who says the game doesn't want the player to engage with it? That is a personal decision. Besides, the brutality of the game is meant to push the player into hating/dehumanising the enemy and (hopefully) later come into some sort of self-reflection

>And yet it's never brought up that's the problem

The entire game is built upon, as you succinctly summarised it, "the problem". "The problem" wouldn't take place if Abby didn't kill Joel, if Ellie didn't go after her, if Isaac didn't kill the Scar prophet and so on and so on and so on...

>it goes way too far and enters a fetishistic region that's more akin to liveleak

Once again: subjective.

>He says for accurately describing the games schizophrenic dissonance between story and gameplay.

No, just pointing out you're seeing things not the same way normal people do

>After creating another couple hundred Abby's in the process

Yeah, maybe she did. Maybe Abby did too. The story could not end there but it's unlikely we'll see it followed (for a number of reasons)

never feel bad for the pedophile tribe

Drukman and bitchford are both hollywood failures, lol. Games are not art.

>>714360909
>>714363521
Since we're talking about the "quality" of gaming journalists
Never forget the pigeon IQ test