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Anonymous No.714404658 [Report] >>714404869 >>714404980 >>714405108 >>714405176 >>714405586 >>714405603 >>714405726 >>714405879 >>714406491 >>714406620 >>714406850 >>714408046 >>714408268 >>714409117 >>714409929 >>714410136 >>714410223 >>714411147 >>714411343 >>714414418 >>714415045 >>714418017 >>714418308 >>714419019
>have all the money
>buy all the developers
>have all the talent
>give them all the time
>make 0 games
>fucking dies
What's this business strategy called?
Anonymous No.714404869 [Report] >>714405696 >>714405864
>>714404658 (OP)
It's called the Gamepass strat.
Anonymous No.714404980 [Report] >>714409214 >>714418308
>>714404658 (OP)
Whatever it is, it's the inverse of the Gabe Newell principle where you just sit there, do the things people expect you to do, and then just win.

Microsoft and SONY have proven with this generation that they're all being run by retards, and Nintendo proved that their audience is the video game equivalent of DIsney adults.
Anonymous No.714405108 [Report] >>714409306
>>714404658 (OP)
It's called building a monopoly and watching it rot.
Game dev in the west is essentially controlled by 4 companies, they long ago bought up all the dev studios and crashed working conditions
Anonymous No.714405176 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
They made games but they suck.
Anonymous No.714405185 [Report]
they're more concerned about trannies than making games
Anonymous No.714405232 [Report] >>714405334 >>714405560
If good games don't move consoles, what does?
Anonymous No.714405334 [Report]
>>714405232
we need to make games for trannies
Anonymous No.714405372 [Report]
American Politics
Anonymous No.714405481 [Report] >>714419025
Anonymous No.714405560 [Report]
>>714405232
Phil. That line of thinking would make sense. If Xbox has made a single great game in the last decade. You don't know if a great game wouldn't save Xbox because you haven't made one. You clearly put all your hopes in Starfield and that crashed so hard you can't feasibly recover from it.
Anonymous No.714405586 [Report] >>714405657 >>714405923 >>714406562 >>714418201
>>714404658 (OP)
>Make 0 games
Indiana Jones
Doom
Oblivion
Call of Duty

But sure man, keep pretending that these suck and oh how much you prefer Stellar Shit.
Anonymous No.714405603 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
democracy
Anonymous No.714405657 [Report] >>714405896
>>714405586
Poor bait
Anonymous No.714405696 [Report] >>714407926
>>714404869
As opposed to the $80 game strat?
Anonymous No.714405726 [Report] >>714406591
>>714404658 (OP)
This is pretty typical corpo behavior.
>Buy up a bunch of stuff
>The people that were actually making good decisions either see the writing on the wall or get ousted.
>Company that got gobbled up begins to crumble.
>Hack and slash everything so only the IPs are left without any of the overhead
Anonymous No.714405856 [Report] >>714406591
>if we keep people poor, we will get loads of money from nowhere for no reason
This is what late stage capitalism looks like.
>you're a commie!
No, just capable of recognizing obvious problems.
Anonymous No.714405864 [Report] >>714406175 >>714411241
>>714404869
how did gamepass force developers to make dogshit games?
Anonymous No.714405879 [Report] >>714406065
>>714404658 (OP)
>What's this business strategy called?
I think it's called the millions of "players" strat doesn't seem to work very well maybe they'll try the millions of sales strat instead
Anonymous No.714405896 [Report] >>714406292
>>714405657
Why the fuck are you even talking back to me? You probably tried those games on Game Pass just like I did.
Go fuck yourself.
Anonymous No.714405923 [Report] >>714406183
>>714405586
>Indiana Jones
Immediately forgotten about a month later
>Doom
Terribly received and easily the worst out of the last three games.
>Oblivion
A remaster that requires too much. and hasn't made up for the travesty that was Starfield.
>Call of Duty
A multiplatform game people don't buy on Xbox.

Xbox doesn't have a game even remotely as well received as Helldivers 2. Until Helldivers 2 announced itself for Xbox today.
Anonymous No.714406065 [Report]
>>714405879
>maybe they'll try the millions of sales strat instead
Everyones trying that lately. They buy their own stock at zero cost to report bigger sales numbers to make everyone think it's a popular game.
Anonymous No.714406175 [Report] >>714407926
>>714405864
Because of the same reason TV and movies has sucked since 2010: they are not doing games/TV series/movies, they are doing content for the streaming platform.
Anonymous No.714406183 [Report]
>>714405923
Nah that's not how it works.

Was Helldivers 2 on PSN+?
Anonymous No.714406257 [Report]
Halo was the only reason to ever buy an Xbox.
Anonymous No.714406292 [Report]
>>714405896
Dumb retard lol. All those games were finished before MS bought them. They didn't' ''make'' anything.
Anonymous No.714406386 [Report]
Call me conspiracy theorist but I unironically think they are intentionally trying to kill gaming.
Anonymous No.714406491 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
Poison pill
Anonymous No.714406562 [Report] >>714406646
>>714405586
that's still 0 games anon
Anonymous No.714406591 [Report]
>>714405726
The next step is usually sell assets and IP individually as the company is gutted.
I always thought MS executives received checks from China on the side.

>>714405856
>keep people poor
First world countries are still about the same.
3rd world countries are only getting poorer because their politicians keep the under their thumb.
For example Brazil is advancing while Mexico regressed under a brand of socialism impulses by the cartels similar to Venezuela.

Also you are not a commie, just retarded.
Commies are very well spoken because they are masters of bullshit, all of them are snakes.
Anonymous No.714406620 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
Resetting the industry. We are in need of a purge and Microsoft, whether it's through 5D chess tier calculations or profound ignorance, is the hero of the story.
Anonymous No.714406646 [Report] >>714407926
>>714406562
I'd probably agree if I had to pay $80 for each. But alas, I did not.
Anonymous No.714406750 [Report]
UPDATED
>King lost 20% of staff
>Zenimax lost 200 workers
>Turn10 lost 50% of staff
>Call Of Zoomer studios, Raven and Sledgehammer, have been hit and also lost staff.
>High Moon Studios lost staff
>The Initiative has been closed
>Perfect Dark has been cancelled
>Everwild has been cancelled
>Project Blackbird (Zenimax MMORPG) has been cancelled
>Zenimax CEO has resigned
> Banjo-Kazooie and Sea of Thieves director Gregg Mayles has resigned
>Blizzard's QA staff has been sent to work from home to avoid suicides within the facility, they will be replaced by outsourcing.
>Halo Studios (formerly 343i) is being hit by layoffs.
>Unknown number of workers are being replaced by AI including Quality Analysts, Artists and Designers.
>Halo Studios' new project is in a critical state and despite having been fixed, the product is still unplayable and in terrible quality.
>Microsoft is directing all its assets to outsourcing in Europe and Asia to accelerate the production of the next Halo game.
>Kojima Productions has reportedly cancelled OD's publishing deal with Xbox.
>Rumor has it that they are looking for another publisher since the IP belongs to Kojima.
>Compulsion Games and Ninja Theory hit by layoffs although to a lesser extent
>Xbox has cancelled funding for John Romero's game
>Xbox has removed the trailer for CONTRABAND, their exclusive game being developed by AvalancheStudio
>Jason Schrier says PROJECT BLACKBIRD was a game that would have pleased gamers and that the cancellation took Zenimax by surprise
>John Romero announced that Xbox has cut funding to him and other third-party studios, reinforcing the news of the cancellation of KojiPro's game OD.
Anonymous No.714406850 [Report] >>714407336 >>714408643
>>714404658 (OP)
>make 0 games

South of Midnight, Redfall, Starfield, and Battletoads are still one more game than Concord.
Anonymous No.714407336 [Report]
>>714406850
I unironically think the new Battletoads is the best Battletoad ever made.
I don't know a single soul who's enjoyed the first Battletoad when it came out.
Anonymous No.714407565 [Report] >>714407770 >>714407792 >>714408593 >>714409007 >>714418580 >>714422940
UPDATED
>King lost 20% of staff
>Zenimax lost 200 workers
>Turn10 lost 50% of staff
>Call Of Zoomer studios, Raven and Sledgehammer, have been hit and also lost staff.
>High Moon Studios lost staff
>The Initiative has been closed
>Perfect Dark has been cancelled
>Everwild has been cancelled
>Project Blackbird (Zenimax MMORPG) has been cancelled
>Zenimax CEO has resigned
> Banjo-Kazooie and Sea of Thieves director Gregg Mayles has resigned
>Blizzard's QA staff has been sent to work from home to avoid suicides within the facility, they will be replaced by outsourcing.
>Halo Studios (formerly 343i) is being hit by layoffs.
>Unknown number of workers are being replaced by AI including Quality Analysts, Artists and Designers.
>Halo Studios' new project is in a critical state and despite having been fixed, the product is still unplayable and in terrible quality.
>Microsoft is directing all its assets to outsourcing in Europe and Asia to accelerate the production of the next Halo game.
>Kojima Productions has reportedly cancelled OD's publishing deal with Xbox.
>Rumor has it that they are looking for another publisher since the IP belongs to Kojima.
>Compulsion Games and Ninja Theory hit by layoffs although to a lesser extent
>Xbox has cancelled funding for John Romero's game
>Xbox has removed the trailer for CONTRABAND, their exclusive game being developed by AvalancheStudio
>Jason Schrier says PROJECT BLACKBIRD was a game that would have pleased gamers and that the cancellation took Zenimax by surprise
>John Romero announced that Xbox has cut funding to him and other third-party studios, reinforcing the news of the cancellation of KojiPro's game OD.
Anonymous No.714407770 [Report]
>>714407565
based
out with the (((old))) in with the new
Anonymous No.714407792 [Report] >>714410774
>>714407565
It's fine. We just got Helldivers 2.
Anonymous No.714407926 [Report]
>>714405696
>>714406175
>>714406646
I can still buy the game on discount while subscribed to Game Pass.
Anonymous No.714408046 [Report] >>714409406
>>714404658 (OP)
>Snoys already in damage control mode because of the Helldivers 2 Xbox port announcement
Anonymous No.714408268 [Report] >>714418658
>>714404658 (OP)
the problem is these western studios have NO talent, its all game design graduates hired en masse to model eyebrow textures who have no idea how to make something fun and hate the audience they're making games for
Anonymous No.714408593 [Report]
>>714407565
>Blizzard's QA staff has been sent to work from home to avoid suicides within the facility
Chat, is this real?
Anonymous No.714408643 [Report]
>>714406850
>Battletoads
Don't remind me
Anonymous No.714409007 [Report] >>714410912
>>714407565
>Turn10 lost 50% of staff
I thought Forza was one of the games that actually sell. And arent they working on the new Fable?
Anonymous No.714409117 [Report] >>714409505
>>714404658 (OP)
Embrace, extend, and extinguish
Anonymous No.714409141 [Report] >>714410623 >>714410849
>Ninja Theory didnt fucking die after making nothing but flops
How
Anonymous No.714409214 [Report]
>>714404980
>video game equivalent of DIsney adults.
The one on /v/, nintendo audience are kids
Anonymous No.714409306 [Report]
>>714405108
4? Its just 3
Anonymous No.714409406 [Report]
>>714408046
>tendie larping as a xbot
Anonymous No.714409505 [Report] >>714409574
>>714409117
Trimming the fat. Do you really think anybody's interested in a new John Romero game after the 90s?
Anonymous No.714409574 [Report] >>714410251
>>714409505
Yeah, why not?
Anonymous No.714409929 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
Does this mean we get the Perfect Dark remaster on PC with KB+M?
Anonymous No.714410136 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
Xbox releases tons of games, they're just forgettable crap. Avowed, South of Midnight, Redfall, that other Obsidian game, Halo whatever, Doom Dark Ages. I can't even remember the names of these, but they come out frequently and disappear within a month. Embarassing, uninspired shit. It's like the dozens of Netflix series that get made, there's tons of content but no one actually likes it enough to talk about or revisit or rewatch, and that's the attitude of people actively paying for the service. The people not subscribing don't even know or care that it exists.
Anonymous No.714410223 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
pump and dump
Anonymous No.714410251 [Report] >>714410543 >>714415854
>>714409574
Then you lie like you breathe.
Anonymous No.714410459 [Report]
They've spent all their money on AI and now they're panicking because AI doesn't actually make any money
Anonymous No.714410543 [Report]
>>714410251
Cool
Anonymous No.714410623 [Report]
>>714409141
They developed mocap technology and a mocap studio for xbox so in the event of closure, they would be sent to work as support for other studios.
Anonymous No.714410774 [Report]
>>714407792
Let's hope it sells more than 22,000 like Final Fantasy on Xbox did
Anonymous No.714410782 [Report]
The problem with xbox now is that everything they touch becomes gay and lame.
Anonymous No.714410849 [Report] >>714412134 >>714415554
>>714409141
Vanilla DmC sold better than vanilla DMC4 and Hellblade was a huge success.
Anonymous No.714410912 [Report]
>>714409007
They are just firing all western employees they think can be replaced with either AI or pajeets regardless of their work performance and success of their products.
Anonymous No.714411027 [Report] >>714418812
>bankrupts your company
Anonymous No.714411147 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
It never was about money. When they can print infinitely more money, it never mattered how much profit you make. It's all about demoralization
Anonymous No.714411241 [Report]
>>714405864
Serious answer:

Devs are compensated for their games on subscription services by "fees" from the streaming platform. The Gamepass and EGS fee structure scales like this:
Game that has zero appeal or buyers
>Gets a notional fee, a few $ per install
Game that has high appeal but is niche or otherwise few buyers
>Gets an okay fee, and likely some visibility boost, per-install $ still less than $10
Game that has lots of buyers
>Gets a "good" fee, plus about $10/install
Blockbuster game
>Gets a great fee, $15/install or more for something like E33

Take a look at that and determine what kind of incentive this leads devs to chase. If you maker a game "too good" for Gamepass or EGS, you're actually losing money; your $40-$80 launch price is severely cucked on the per-install payment, and the fee can't make that up. If you make a game "too bad" for Gamepass (impossible) or EGS (they review more aggressively), you're wasting your time. A 1-man studio working while pulling welfare might make sense to submit slop to Gamepass, but no one else. The "golden middle" of subscription services is to make a game that would otherwise retail for $10-40 and throw it on Gamepass. The per-install payment is comparable to what you would expect from Steam, and the extra visibility is free advertising.

And so, that's how Gamepass and EGS "force developers to make dogshit* games"
*hyperbole
Anonymous No.714411343 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
>fucking dies
good good, hopefully plebstation will be next
Anonymous No.714412134 [Report] >>714421170
>>714410849
>Hellblade was a huge success
I doubt that but I haven't been following it. It's certainly a good UE5 showcase, but unlike something with a similar development time and showcase status like Cyberpunk, the game just disappeared after a month. And it's like 8 hours long. I'm sure critics like it for, reasons, but people who actually buy games ever seemed to care in the first place.
Anonymous No.714414418 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
Project blackbird was probably some kind of Starfield online
Anonymous No.714415045 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
Extinguish, extinguish, extinguish or something it was a famous MS quote I think
Anonymous No.714415554 [Report]
>>714410849
>Hellblade was a huge success
It was a huge mocap and UE5 showcase success, that's about it. Journos liked because Journos. Bleeding Edge also flopped extra hard as well.
Anonymous No.714415854 [Report]
>>714410251
Games like Ion Fury prove that classic FPS still got a major market out there, wtf do you mean?
Anonymous No.714416363 [Report] >>714418625
It's going to Rebrand as Microsoft Games.
Anonymous No.714418017 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
It's over
Anonymous No.714418201 [Report]
>>714405586
None of the playable straight from the disk.
Anonymous No.714418308 [Report]
>>714404658 (OP)
>>714404980
Indian CEO
Anonymous No.714418580 [Report]
>>714407565
microsoft fired 11,000 Americans since january and have requested 14,000 h1bs
Anonymous No.714418625 [Report]
>>714416363
2 more weeks
Anonymous No.714418658 [Report]
>>714408268
>its all game design graduates hired en masse
it's all h1b visa holders
Anonymous No.714418812 [Report] >>714419087
>>714411027
>bankrupts your company
Anonymous No.714419019 [Report] >>714419282 >>714420484
>>714404658 (OP)
The starve Sony strat
Anonymous No.714419025 [Report]
>>714405481
gaming died when they got rid of booth babes
Anonymous No.714419087 [Report] >>714419309
>>714418812
Isn't Microsoft richer than ever nowadays?
Anonymous No.714419282 [Report]
>>714419019
2 more weeks
Anonymous No.714419309 [Report]
>>714419087
they just fired 11,000 workers and requested 14,000 H1B visas and they had reports about losing 400,000,000 windows users
Anonymous No.714420484 [Report]
>>714419019
Lol
Anonymous No.714421170 [Report]
>>714412134
I don't understand how that game took so long to make
it's a linear game with basic bitch combat, it's not like they had to spend all that time developing a ton of intricate gameplay mechanics
Anonymous No.714421376 [Report]
>Indians with chatGPT replacing americans
Fucking lmao, this gta levels of retarded
Anonymous No.714422940 [Report]
>>714407565
Double Fine status?