is this actually the best TRPG ever?

>>714482157 (OP)

if you don't mind a 10 hours tutorial, then it's worth playing for sure

What the fuck is TRPG?
Turkish Role-Playing Game?

>>714482351

Tactical

>>714482351
No.
It's Tajikistan Role-Playing Game

Lot of the systems seem superfluous

Was looking at this for the summer sale, does it play well on Steam Deck?
Also, is the bonus content worth getting?

>>714482558
It's a bit bloated

>>714482351
Tijuanan Roof Paneling Game

>>714482638
Iirc all the bonus content comes at the end so you can make up your mind later.

>>714482351
Tile Rape Poster Game

>>714482852
Have you played it yet? I don't see myself getting to it by the time the sale is over and it's on deep sale (70% per DLC) so if it's good enough I'm fine with paying for it now

>>714482157 (OP)
No, this is

>>714482157 (OP)
Close second, best ever is pic related

>>714482157 (OP)
>skill trees insfead of global tech level tree
Nah

>>714482157 (OP)
I'm a brainlet, so for me it's nu-xcom for the explosions.

>>714483048
I played it for like 15 hours and got bored. The fights feel very repetitive after a while, does it get better at some point?

>>714482935
I never got to the end of the game. It's a big game.

>>714482351
TRanny Penis G

>>714482157 (OP)
Isn't it just Nu-XCOM?

>>714482638
I keep reading the font sucks on the deck. Developer responded on Steam forums that they are too small a studio to optimize for deck.

>>714482157 (OP)
It's -really- slow at the start but it does get good. Got pretty sad when it ended because I just wanted to play more

>>714482157 (OP)
Remember seeing this a few years ago but then read that it needs to connect to a server for some reason.
Is that still a thing? Cause that seems retarded for what I thought is an indie game.

>>714482157 (OP)
>tutorial has me playing a SWAT team with guns
>the actual characters are all either meelee or mages
I got bait-and-switched by this game

How is the story/gameplay split in this game. Builds/combat look really interesting, but also reeks of excessive VN bloat.

>>714483937
You can play it offline and you won't be missing much.

>>714484081
It's korean.

>>714483663

at some point games shouldn't be called "x-like/light", "nu-x" they should just be called by the genre's name. Imagine if we still called all ARPG Diablo-like

>>714483048
my absolute nigga

>>714483562

it's one of the best games for Kevin Jordan (Era WoW game designer) so even though I haven't played it myself I bet it's good.

I liked it but it has way to much yapping, also it takes ages for you to get all the systems

its got some good stuff, its fun to customize your character and the battles are pretty good but all the story stuff is pretty cringeworthy.. and theres a lot of it

>>714484081
There is a lot of yapping, but missions are quite long. Some longer one have like 80 dudes to kill, so the split is fair. A lot of it is tightly vowen into the mission design, so it goes down easier. It also doesn't lore dump on you from the start, you start with simple practical concerns of striking out on your own, and lore details are very gradually filled in. I'd spitball the ratio of yapping to playing is like 1/3 or 1/4 of Persona 4.

>>714485531
>>714485637

If story is bad why force yourself to it instead of just skipping all cutscenes/dialogues ?

Did anyone try it on the 'eck?

>>714484081
the vn bloat is pretty extreme, even if you skip it all it still takes a while. gameplay is good but i couldn't stick with it long enough to finish the game. if it had interesting characters and story it would be one of the best

>Don't know to skip dialogues.
What are you so afraid of missing out on? Treat it like an mmo, skip every textbox and just follow quest markers.

>>714485975

I read the quests in mmos though... at least older ones because they print a good picture of the world

>>714482157 (OP)
Anne, my beloved

wrong trouble shooter

>>714482157 (OP)
The foul gookspeak makes it unplayable

>that sequence about a cop you didn't know who died 15 hours of gameplay ago

>8 months ago
>2 weeks later
>2 hours earlier
>6 months ago
>3 months earlier
>1 week later
>20 minutes later
>2 months before
>7 hours later

>>714486887
Absolutely fucking based

Why is she so fucking perfect?

>>714483663
It's Nu-Xcom + sheer autistic mechanics overload

>>714482157 (OP)
its pretty good, but the whole VN asécts is a bit boring and the game has a bit too many Mechanics, i still think XCOM: Enemy Unknown and XCOM 2 are better, but like i said, pretty good game,

>>714482638
havent tried it on my deck yet but seems to work well

https://www.protondb.com/app/470310

>>714482157 (OP)
Game was an 8/10 for me could have been 9/10 if they cut some of the bloat and systems down a little. Don't even need to remove them entirely.
Worth a play through without a doubt.

>>714486436
The part where she has an emotional breakdown from the cop dying in front of her still strikes me as weird. Sure she's a kid but she's been basically acting as a super medic for the police for a while. You'd think she'd have already seen her fair share of cops killed in the line of duty by that point.

>>714482157 (OP)
It's up there, yeah.

Stopped playing it 16 hours in because it was too easy.

>>714482157 (OP)
No lol. It's good but it's not the best trpg ever. It might be one of my favorite character building trpgs though

>>714482157 (OP)
For me? It's pic related. Your pic related is probably my 3rd favorite after wasteland 2

>>714487473
>fiery womanlet
we need more of this archetype

>>714482157 (OP)
No, this is.
>>714491625
That's also a damn solid game, a shame they nerfed stealth missions because of retards complaining.

In the badly translated asian SRPG genre this one is pretty good (Banner of the Maid). Very Fire Emblem reminiscent but with mostly cute girls.

>>714492071
>a shame they nerfed stealth missions because of retards complaining.
Very true. The bitch stealth mode should only have applied to easy and below. MAYBE normal but still probably not
>>714492108
Banner of the maid was fun but nothing more than an 8/10. Best thing about it imo was no RNG level ups.

Big thing I wish they would add are ragdoll physics. I want to see criminals go flying and tumbling when I knock them out with a kick from Irene, not just fall over in a rather boring manner

>>714482157 (OP)
>shit translation
>tons of disjointed game systems, a lot of them worthless
>perpetual grind
>they actually thought they'd get to make a trilogy

Bloat personified

should i play this game or Reverse Collapse?

>>714492605
Reverse Collapse is infinitely better

>>714482157 (OP)
It's ok, if it wasn't for the Koreans shilling this thing like deranged psychotics, people would talk about it more.

DLCs are trash though.

Some of the missions take too long because you have to move 30 units across 4 football fields with little going on

>>714492605
The latter if you like a challenge. The former if you want an easy trpg
Imo reverse collapse is probably the best trpg in the past 20 years.

>>714492759
>It's a good game
Refunded. Glad I didn't start yet

>>714482351
Train Racing Pro-G (force)

>>714492985
Gook* lol. Fuck worst Koreans

>>714491625
Time for another playthrough of this.

>>714493043
>>714492759
>it is
thanks for letting me know. Been playing dream tactics instead but I bought this at the same time. Refunded

>>714482157 (OP)
It's ackshually shallow as fuck.
There's like two builds per character and many MANY systems doesn't fucking matter at all.

>>714487647
xcom is shallow garbo.

>>714493478
>zak0917@live.com

nice

>>714493478
>>714493043
i hate you retarded faggots

>>714493478
>>714494345
Lol retard

>>714493478
>>714494345

>>714493478
>>714494345
Hi, Zak.

>>714494621
>>714494528
>>714494470
>>714494345
Hi guys

>>714494758
Dayton, Ohio

>>714494848
I haven't lived there in well over a decade

>>714482157 (OP)
OG X-Com and JA2 are the best.
FFT is close if you like story heavy JRPGs.

>he deleted
it's too late, internet remembers everything

>>714493001
>Train-Zero
I want this now, sadly we'll never get this unless it's monkey paw'd to accidentally also be one of those speedtranny niche games

https://store.steampowered.com/app/322190/SteamWorld_Heist/

>>714495048
Mods deleted I didnt. They always delete PII for obvious reasons

>>714495158
The steam world games were shit

>Main character seems like a generic self insert boring as fuck dude
>actually ends up having a real story and strong reasons for everything he does
>acts like a realistic person
I think that was what made me care about the story the most. Felt really surprising.

>>714487256
Why do people feel like they need to tell their entire story out of chronological order?

>>714495406
Why isn't Irene the protagonist? Blazing hot sex with irene

>>714482157 (OP)
Hahaha!.
No.

>>714495406
>albus "human holocaust" bernstein
>acts realistic
He's even more autistic Rean.
KOREAN REAN. Haha.

>>714495595
by far the best

>>714484081
its like a 25/75 split of story to gameplay.

>>714492605
troubleshooters is more of a tactical rpg whereas reverse collapse is more of a puzzle game imo

>>714494432
>Nooo don't have pattern recognition

>>714497592
The only puzzle parts is stealth sections which admittedly is 25-33% of the game. The "full scale battles" are so much better in reverse collapse it isn't even comparable

>>714497867
its probably because Im still in the 3rd chapter but the game doesnt feel nearly as freeform. Maps have obvious ways they are meant to played, and if you dont play them the dev intended way then you just lose

>>714497749
pattern recognition of what, exactly?

I always post this because the devs are based.

>>714497993
Nta and true

>>714498064
Koreans making trash games. It's the seal of generic trash

>>714498102
kek i remember seeing this a while back. i was already thinking about buying the game but i just pulled the trigger because of this

>>714491625
>chink trash
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>>714497993
Any game of sufficient difficulty is going to have a way to play that is more correct anon. Troubleshooter feels more freeform because it is piss easy. Also chapter 3 is right out of the tutorial. The first two chapters are baby mode

>>714498170
>Lies of P
>Stellar Blade
>WitchSpring R
yeah the only pattern i'm recognizing is gooks making kino lately. yeah most of their games are shit, but you're missing out on good ones. let me guess, you didn't play Nine Sols because it's made by chinks? fucking faggot

>>714498102
:(

>>714498251
>Souls but generic twink
>Nier but gook
>I haven't looked into but saw it being turbo shilled during the sale but I'm sure it's derivative trash
Kinda making the point

>>714498448
>didn't play any of them
i accept your concession you pussy

>>714484945
Mind if I save this image?

>>714498479
>No please buy my gook trash
No. Even chinks do their own thing sometimes at least

Great game, especially if you have character build autism.
Starlight Junction turns boys into men.
It breaks my heart to see you.
Bianca is for butt stuff.

>>714498243
>of sufficient difficulty
its not the fun kind of difficulty though is my issue with it. The game is just fucking mean at times and will spontaneous positioning check you by spawning a squad directly behind you, which leads to a loss if you didnt know it was already coming. Or missions will have some kind of binary A/B choice where option B is the only one that lets you beat the mission and picking A = level restart. It was a complaint I voiced in an RC thread and other anons just straight up told me to savescum since its that kind of game and I just dont like that experience.

The reason I liked troubleshooters more is because its significantly more freeform. If I ran into a problem while playing it I could back out, retool my characters, and then enter the map from another angle. If it were RC then the reason I lost the map would be because I didnt send character A to hold checkpoint X and use ability Y on turn 4 to counter the squad that spawns at that exact moment. The over-reliance on items also makes this problem way worse, you must place barbed wire at the checkpoint the devs want or you will lose. Its that kind of super narrow map design that I just dont gell with the game nearly as much.

>>714498783
It's fine albeit way to easy

>>714498783
>Bianca is for butt stuff.
she is our anal queen

>>714498604
It’s all yours my friend

>>714498886
>Easy games are easy and hard games are hard
You can fight your way out of most shit positions in bakery girl unless you fuck up bad. But even that is thematic for the game since it's a game about looping. Save scumming is core to the experience and the game requires tenacity to finish on challenging because it's a hard game

>>714498604
I only havee three of them, never saw any more

>>714498927
I don't know, the game eases you in then throws shit like destrons, crabmit island and clowns at you, then gets ready to nutpunch later

>>714498886
First 2 and a half chapters are definitely like that yeah. Again the first two chapters are tutorials. If you still have that complaint into chapter 4 outside of stealth maps it is a pure skill issue

>>714498604
>>714499146

>>714483987
No, nearly all the characters are ranged, even the fire girl can do a ranged build

>>714499120
>missing the point this hard

>>714499372
Hopefully its just the early game. Ill probably try and push through after I get back to where I was at before the game just lost my save out of nowhere.

>>714499374
>saving a thumbnail
Brainlet

>>714499530
What difficulty are/were you playing on? And again if you were early chapter 3 that is quite literally right out of the tutorial. Chapter 3 is a soft tutorial too. Chapter 4 and 5 are 70% of the game

ok i'm starting Reverse Collapse. wish me luck bros

>>714499768
2nd from the hardest difficulty

transgender RPG? wtf now

>>714499968
Second highest is normal anon

>>714499441
Ranged Irene is fucking garbo, she has 1 ranged skill
Maybe only slightly better than ranged albus

Fuck Mungo King

>>714499913
Enjoy and don't pick challenge+ on your first run unless you are insane or like cataloguing what you do turn by turn

>>714500056
yeah I know
>journalist
>easy
>the actual normal difficulty
>YOU BETTER HAVE PLAYED THE GAME TO COMPLETION ALREADY NIGGER difficulty

>>714500132
i'll be playing on normal, i don't want to suffer too much

>>714483562
You can find harder fights if you explore, but it doesn't get different.
It's peak "niggas in a line", but it's not for everyone.

>>714500046
More like Transhooter who the fuck names their game -shooter when main focus is mostly melee

>>714500148
>YOU BETTER HAVE PLAYED THE GAME TO COMPLETION ALREADY NIGGER difficulty
That's challenge+. Challenge is... Fine. It's pretty fucking hard though in the back half. Chapter 4 took like an hour and a half a mission for the tougher ones and chapter 5 was even longer

>>714500273
most of the cast in troubleshooter are ranged characters though

>>714482807
Underrated

>>714500148
More like
>challenge+ - HOLY SHIT YOU HATE YOURSELF
>Challenge - this is TOO DAMN HARD half the time
>Normal - easy missions are way to easy and hard missions feel just right
>Easy - what mica thought would be easy enough for journalists
>Easy+ - actually for journalists who somehow still struggled

>devs say that allowing the player to break the game is fun so they keep broken stuff in
>players break the game
>complain the game is too ez
oh god is library of ruina all over again where players just abuse myongest and the smugly shitpost that the game is too easy. Meanwhile in earlier sections they literally could not into basic mechanics and I would have to spoonfeed them builds

>>714483048
I wish this game wasn't just pins

So, reading people talk about this game, is it just banner of the maid again, where people talk up how hard the game is until eventually everyone realizes that every chapter has an obvious linear solution which is 'dont deploy the bad units that die'

>>714500659
>Bro you have to handicap yourself to make the game hard
Ah the soulsfag argument. Strategy games are 90% identifying what is good for the situation and fielding it.

>>714500765
>Banner of the maid
>Hard
People actually complained about that? It wasnt even harder than FE games

>>714482157 (OP)

>>714500765
nah not really. The game just gives you fuck tons of tools to solve problems and various ways to approach maps. The difficulty is largely in newer enemies pulling new tricks that fuck up prior builds you leaned on heavily while encouraging you to try other approaches. Late game mungo vs red sand shows this off heavily by having the former punish camping while the later punishes rushing.

>>714482157 (OP)
I'm waiting for pic related.
Battle Brothers were kino.

>>714500817
>game doesnt have its difficulty cranked to the max so that build variety can exist
>anons dont care, just use the same extremely busted builds they pulled from a guide
>complain the game is too easy

>>714501616
>Rub braincells together
>make a build that is good
>Y-you used guides
This happens in almost every building game I play because I'm not a knuckle dragging retard

>>714501616
Not him but.
>Figure out something is overpowered early on because it's super obvious
>Never use anything else
>Easy game
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>714501797
>>714501616
You don't get it your suppose to run trash then jerk off that the game is hard

>>714500659
>>714501616
I understand the point you're trying to make, anon. Obtuse faggots are going to exist in every thread.

>>714501616
If there was a singular broken "easy mode" build I would agree. The fact that there is half a dozen builds that trivialize the game makes this moot

>>714500273
They solve trouble by putting the enemies out of action

only real niggas know misty is actually the best girl

>>714495595
This or Wildfire? Trying to decide which one to start with.

>>714502772
Nigger I already told on vst don't fucking start with wildfire just get já gold

>>714502904
I don't read posts if they don't come with an image

>>714482250

> 10 hours tutorial

This is the gaming equivalent of the ick

>>714482250
>>714503586

it's actually more like 15-20 hours

>>714502772
you can ignore wildfire it's basically a "fanmod" from copyright hell era

>>714503938
Thanks for the clear answer

>>714502772
Gold + stracciatella for the first playthrough, 1.13 afterwards if you want more complexity / difficulty.

>>714503847
>Bro if you play 20 hours of tutorial you can get level 2 autism builder for an easy game
If I want an actual character builder I will play siralim. 500* the autism and 1000* as difficult with 10000* the potential cheese

>>714502730
For me it's Luna