Thread 714492848

>finish game
>open youtube and search "game's story explained"

>>714492848 (OP)
Sometimes there's just so much extra story content that you never engage with
IIRC FF13 had a fucking encyclopaedia for all its back story and terms that no one ever read

>>714492848 (OP)
I have literally never watched a video with a title like that.

>>714493026
When it comes to lore i would much rather watch a video about it than read ingame walls of text.

Name a video game story that is actually complicated enough to need a video like that. A game having a shitton of text lore that nobody bothers to read I can understand.
But the actual events of what is happening in the game are never ever hard to understand in any game.

>>714492848 (OP)
Sometimes after I finish a story I go to look up what other people are saying about it because I'm interested in their takes. It's often the case that some people will have noticed certain details that I didn't pick up on, especially in games that have branching stories or side content.

>>714492848 (OP)
This with Tetris

>>714492848 (OP)
i can understand it for story heavy games

>skip every cutscene
>finish game
>"that was a good game"
>never bother with the story

>>714492848 (OP)
Probably started after Souls games were doing le lore explanations, and even the most straightforward games have this kind of grift nowadays

>>714494019
Yeah I do this too. Sometimes I realize I misinterpreted information or I missed something and then after looking at conversation the pieces will click together

>>714492848 (OP)
>Finish game
>Open Tv tropes
Yep, it's reading time
I like the fridge tab

Sekiro is not a justified game of the year because of this.

>>714493752
i still dont understand the full story of ff7
its been like 20 years

>>714492848 (OP)
I did that after finishing Parasite Eve The 3rd Birthday and I still don't know wtf happend in this game.

>>714493752
Cultist Simulator
Book of Hours
Black Souls 2

>>714494686
No anon... don't do this. Final Fantasy 7 is one of those games I love and I love talking about. My autism will make me ramble about this game for hours without meaning to

>>714494937
i dont want any spoilers im about to play through ff7 rebirth soon
but i played ff7 back in the day and still dont really understand what cloud is, or what sephiroth is about.

>>714493752
I needed one for Blazblue. Namely because Observation is such a weird power and there's so many proprietary terms that after the first 2 games my thoughts were "what the fuck is going on?"

>>714492848 (OP)
>be unable to finish another shmup
>open youtube and search "game's endings"

>>714494686
Japanese fantasy writer is sick and tired of Western gods intruding on Eastern spirituality.

>>714495005
>up to Rebirth
Okay I can do this. I'll chat up a little background information and I'll touch on a few details about Cloud and Sephiroth without giving up the whole game. Basically I'll try to lay down a few seeds to follow going into Rebirth.

The first thing FF7 wants you to understand is Midgar. See the Planet isn't just a floating rock in space. It's alive. And the lifeblood of the Planet is the Lifestream. Without going into too much detail because spoilers, the Lifestream is responsible for the existence of... well life. So what happens when people start burning the Lifestream for money?

Shinra was a weapons manufacturer that discovered the Lifestream was an incredibly efficient source of energy. So they created the Reactors, machines that siphon up the Lifestream and burn it as fuel. Shinra rebranded the Lifestream as "Mako" and with their monopoly on the best weapons and the best power source, they functionally took over the world. And their seat of power is Midgar, a floating mega city built over top the villages that built it. The rich are able to live on the upper plate while the villages degraded into slums where the power fight for scraps.

>>714493752
Elden Ring.Literally don't know anything about the story after playing for 70 hours

>>714495005
Sephiroth is the result of a super soldier program conducted by Hojo of Shinra, where in they used genetic material from an Alien, JENOVA. This experiment was conducted in a way so that Sephiroth was born.
Cloud was part of secondary experiments to try and replicate the results of the Sephiroth program by directly infusing people with JENOVA and/or Sephiroth cells, being one of the last people subjected to this process and perhaps because of the escape, he survived this and wasn't given a number. The experiment resulted in partial amnesia and he grafted some of his memories onto the Soldier that saved him, Zack.

You never actually encounter Sephiroth in game till the end, he is frozen in the North Crater. All the times you see him otherwise is him projecting himself into other victims of the experiment Cloud was a part of, the "This guy are sick" people in robes and marked with numbers.

>>714493752
MGS 5
t. didn't play Peace Walker

>>714495775
huh interesting
hopefully ff7 rebirth goes into this
ff7 remake part 1 didnt really explain anything unless i missed it
>>714495567
yeah i understand the basic premise stuff thats clearly explained like within the intro for the game

>>714495643
this

>>714494383
based

>haven't played game before
>jerk off to the characters on R34 frequently
>finally play game
>never jerk off to the characters again
So much is lost in gaining knowledge.

>>714494516
Exactly. Ever since kids latched onto the Souls "environmental storytelling" meme, every dev thinks having lore scattered across loading screens and flavor text is super deep. Even the most linear, by-the-numbers shooters now have 18 hidden audiologs explaining the tragic downfall of some janitor in Sector C. Like bro, I just want to know why I'm shooting these guys, not read someone's terminal diary about their dead cat.

>>714495567
Okay I'm gonna get to Cloud and Sephiroth I promise. But here's a question: what is the Promised Land? According to legends from the Cetra, an extinct race of people who could communicate with the Planet, the Promised Land is functionally heaven. A verdant land of infinite life. Well Shinra heard "infinite life" and concluded that there must be infinite Mako there too. So if you built a reactor on top of it, you get infinite money.

So when Shinra discovered a Cetra corpse on the northern continent, they were ecstatic. They could use their genetics research team to take the Cetra's DNA and put it in a living person. So then that person could hear the voice of the planet, learn the location of the Promised Land, and then lead Shinra to it. Which is insanely evil. They named the corpse "Jenova" and for extreme spoiler reasons, this plan was never going to work. Sephiroth was the result of this experiment and he never displayed the powers of the Cetra. Instead he had superhuman strength and stamina and the most efficient killer instinct anyone had ever seen. So plans for Neo-Midgar was scrapped and the Jenova project became the SOLDIER project, where Shinra soldiers were injected with Mako and Jenova cells to enhance their strength. Hey Cloud claims to be a SOLDIER too, imagine that.

>>714494383
i do that when im just fucking tired of yapping in games. games overuse audio for exposition way too much. rather than in the environment or acts of the s tory

>>714495975
Well Remake part 1 covers the events of Midgar which is 5 hours into a 40 hour game. And the critical information about Cloud and Sephiroth are found in the 2nd half of FF7

>>714493026
Death Stranding 2 does the same, every time a new technobabble word is introduced the game prompts you to open the ingame dictionary to figure out what the fuck are they talking about.

>>714492848 (OP)
>>714493101
I've done this exactly once (FNAF, and that was before help wanted)
>mfw

>finish game
>look up rule34

>>714496524
I hate when writers make proprietary language for no reason. Blazblue does this shit all the time. Okay so the whole world is full of seithr. What is seithr? Well it's like magical radiation. The stuff is heavily mutagenic but it's also what allows magical equipment to work. Oh did I say magical equipment? I meant to say "Ars Magus." Which is not to be confused with "Ars Armagus," which is a magical weapon. And neither of these are to be confused with "Nox Nyctores," which is also a magical weapon but really really powerful. So powerful that they affect the user. But the term powerful is kind of inconsistent. Because the ability to talk to a doll made from a human soul is considered more powerful than a book that can steal and control the concept of light. And all of this is separated from just good old fashioned electricity or science, which borderlines on being a lost art. Oh but none of what I just said counts as Magic, which actually is a lost art.

Why do all of this? Could you imagine being an editor for this shit?

>>714496919
I did this with Xenoblade

>>714492848 (OP)
Sometimes I do this just to see:
>how wrong is the brainlet youtuber
or
>how they wank and pseud over inane >the curtains were blue stuff

>>714492848 (OP)
>be me
>do this
>come to /v/ and tell anons they're retards for not understanding the story

>>714493752
Sometimes games are made hard to understand on purpose.

>finish game
>seems like i have most trophies, let's see what is left to do
>look up a guide
>"Post-Game: This is the hardest most time consuming part of the game, be prepared to spend the vast majority of your playtime here..."
God fucking damnit

>>714493752
Was Wind Waker Link the REAL Hero of Wind™ or a random at the right place during the right time?

>>714495643
Why do you even bother, you know it is deliberately vague Miyazaki stuff because
>nostalgia for reading books in English as a kid and not understanding shit + make the players make up the lore for free marketing + GRRM naming conventions and scat fetishism.

If the plot doesn't mean enough to the creator to bother thinking it through, why devote a single second of thought to it? Just play the game and have fun killing things.

>>714492848 (OP)
Huh? Is this an actual thing that people do?

>>714497434
Thanks for reminding me of that odd time that Gackt was in a couple of games.

>>714494686
Homelander is a blatant plagiarism of Sephiroth
Cloud's a random grunt who didn't qualify into SOLDIER, but fell into the lifestream and got his and Zack's memories mixed up. He also got injected with Jenovah particles so he is strong enough to be in SOLDIER.

Sephiroth thinks he's a Celestial. He is not, because Jenovah is an alien and not actually a Celestial. The only real Celestial is Aerith. Sephiroth doesn't care and is deluded and thinks he's the only higher level of existence on the planet and can do as he sees fit since everyone else is a bug to him, so he's going to reset the planet with meteor.

Someone tell me where I got it wrong

>>714495237
Can relate. Its harsh but Im not the kind of person that can even hope to 1cc shmups even though I find the art and music cool.arvsk

>>714492848 (OP)
I always speedrun games skipping cutscenes and then just watch a video on the lore

>>714494383
high t move

When has a youtube "essay" genuinely added something of value to a game's story and themes? All of them are absolute superficial slop.

>>714493752
The whole Metal Gear Series unless you play them right after each other and Do every Codec talk