Question for any boomers. Which game was considered giga kino back in 2005, mgs3 or re4?

>>714545191 (OP)
Since MGS3 came out 2004, not that one, faggot

Both. But I liked MGS 3 more and still do. Best MGS and one of the best games ever. Resident Evil 4 is cool but I like the previous 3 as much.

>>714545191 (OP)
MG3 was kino. RE4 was more polarizing and seen as kino moreso retrospectively

When Snoys only had MGS?
>MGS3
When Snoys got their port of RE4?
>RE4

>>714545191 (OP)
tall hung dark alphas was considered kino back then and still is. my small white cock just can’t compete

>>714545191 (OP)
Resident Evil 4 is more mainstream. Metal Gear is a weird series that doesn’t have the same level of appeal.

RE4 is one of the best games ever made. MGS3 is cumbersome movie game tripe.

>>714545191 (OP)
inb4
>neither faggot the actual best game of 2005 was this shitty PC-only first person shooter that nobody talks about anymore

>>714545681
>Mindbroken over FEAR

>>714545681
Put some respect on SWAT 4's name, man

I find MGS3 a better game compared to RE4 in both story and in gameplay, personally I just found RE4 to be clunky and unintuitive, although it could be because I played it on the ps2

RE4.

>>714545191 (OP)
RE4 was controversial at the time, only zoomers revised history to gas it up as an all time masterpiece.

MGS3 was a classic from the moment it released. Guy at gamestop recommended it for me back in 05, best game I had ever played hands down.

>>714545409
fpbp

>>714545401
>>714545927
Why lie?

>>714545927
literally the exact opposite lmfao

>MGS3 needed a rerelease just to have a proper camera for the new gameplay
>played essentially the same as MGS1/2 but with a slower-pace
>kojima didn't even want to do it
>was only made the way it was because people shat on 2

>RE4 was unlike anything ever made, saved a stagnating series, spawned several sub-genres, was refined several times over to make sure it was unique and new

>>714546690
he wasnt talking about journos he was talking about RE fans online, and he is 100% correct
t. got RE4 on gamecube on launch day

>>714546991
you mean the nintendo exclusivity was polarizing then, you dumb disingenuine faggot. not the game

>>714546940
No one gave a fuck about the camera you dumb zoomer. MGS2 was hated on release (and still now) due to the raiden shit

/v/ loved MGS3 more, even though MGS2 was hated
but RE4 was a huge milestone for gaming

I thought both of them were kind of steps backwards. MGS3's level design is too open and the menuing is kind of gay, and RE4 is too action oriented with a lame escort and the artificial difficulty is gay
Guess I've always been a contrarian like that

>>714545191 (OP)
MGS3

MGS3 is one of the best games ever created.
RE4 is only one of the best games of the gen.

>>714547074
dude how many consoles did the failcube sold?

>>714547074
No, he means the gameplay was polarizing. It got rid of the traditional RE formula for a brown and bloom grimdark third person shooter with tank controls.
People hated it back then. I still have never picked it back up because it's slop and always has been.

>>714548558
this but reversed

>>714548558
this but equalized

>>714545191 (OP)
Mgs3 was considered really good at the time. Re4 was considered ground breaking. The re4 influence is still around today. It was the first game to really do the over the shoulder aim that every third person shooter since then does.

>>714545191 (OP)
Both were extremely popular. RE4 probably had greater mainstream appeal but MGS3 was more critically acclaimed at the time IIRC.

>>714548683
>resi4
>bloom
>grimdark
anyways you should play it with fresh eyes, it's a really good action game with great pacing and variety

>>714548746
No third person shooters have tank controls other than the later RE games.

>>714548756
Re4 was pulling consistent 10/10s. I distinctly remember game informer giving it a 10/10 at the time. It was like the second one they ever gave after OOT.

>>714548831
>>714548756
>journo opinions
Meanwhile /v/ was talking about how shit it was

>>714545191 (OP)
on /v/ undoubtedly MGS3 was far more popular, manlet tears and etc loved and aped that shit constantly and it was very lovingly dicksucked constantly.

>>714548873
/v/ thinks dark souls 2 is a good game

>>714545191 (OP)
not a boomer but played both around when they came out and RE4 was way more popular

>>714548963
*ahem*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTfcMeqhig

>>714545191 (OP)
Only one of those came out in 2005.

>>714545191 (OP)
They were both highly regarded. RE4 was more popular with the normgroids, while only autists could stomach the MGS3's autistic control scheme and infodump codec calls and menu systems.

If you want to know what my specific experience was like, I was original an Xbox owner but my dad got me a PS2 on a whim. The first game I got for it was RE4. I though it was good. But I got MGS3 later, and didn't like it at first because I thought the controls were wonky and the gameplay felt too stilted compared to Splinter Cell (at the time I was a big Splinter Cell fan.) However I gave it a second chance and it ended up becoming one of my favorite games of all time. I didn't enjoy RE4 nearly as much at the time. Nowadays I might have more fun with RE4 than MGS3, but at the time MGS3 felt like a more all-around complete package to me.

>>714545191 (OP)
I had both and it was fucking amazing. The absolute peak of gaming.

>>714545409
works on both sides because tendies shilled re4 like the best game ever until got a ps2 port and eventually on every new console
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBh-vBFeegs

>>714550221
2004-2005 was a great time for games man... MGS3 and RE4, Halo 2, Half Life 2, the hits just kept coming

>>714545191 (OP)
RE4 is the Skyrim of Capcom

>>714545780
>although it could be because I played it on the ps2
i hear the ps2 port is shit
i played it on there for 5 mins and put it down

>>714550617
Concessions were made but it's still a good game for the time it came out. Obviously not the ideal port to play nowadays but I still have a copy and is still playable.

>>714550559

Keep in mind, during a 6 month period we got:
>GTA San Andreas
>MGS3
>Halo 2
>Half Life 2
>God of War
>Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
>Devil May Cry 3
It was an embarrassment of riches. Zoomers will never understand what they missed.

>>714550974
Ah man It just wouldn't stop. Not long before that we even got KOTOR 1 and during that time we also got KOTOR 2.

>>714550684
i found the controls to be miserable but I was on PS3 so im not sure if that has anything to do with it

>>714550434
What teh fuck is a zeebo

>>714546690
It was absolutely controversial because of how far it strayed from the previous titles. Why would you think showing someone's opinion on it being good which is correct btw would mean that nobody else had issues with the game?

>>714545281
>>714549180
Actually to be fair the PAL version got delayed into early 2005. It's why the NTSC version didn't have the secret theatre and time battle mode until Subsistence - it was spun as Konami's "apology" to Europe/Australia for the delay.

>>714552739
To be honest I don’t remember it being controversial. It seemed like everyone loved it. I was a little disappointed it dropped the classic level design though.

>>714553383
Depends on where you were looking. Casual gamers all universally loved it because the game is great and fun as hell. Hardcore fans of the series were upset about how different it was to previous entries, but you wouldn't see much of that if you weren't looking in the right places because the former have always outnumbered the latter. And yeah, they were right to be upset because the series that they liked did completely change and never had a game like the first 3.
If it had just had a different title so it was viewed as a spinoff then it wouldn't have been controversial.

>>714553631
I sometimes wonder how Onimusha would've been received if Okamoto's original pitch of "Sengoku Biohazard" about the T-virus breaking out in a "ninja house" in Japan actually got picked up as presented

>>714545409
why are cubies such insecure trannys

>>714550559
But RE4 is actually a good game.
Skyrim is shit. It's always been shit.

>>714545191 (OP)
MGS3 got great reviews over basically being "Metal Gear with Snake again" after MGS2's fakeout on top of actually being a great game with a comparatively breezy Cold War thriller which is why common sentiment was it was the best in the series, especially with its Subsistence version. And especially when it was followed up by the bloated MGS4. People were still bitter and frustrated about MGS2.
MGS3 was everything everybody loved about Metal Gear, everybody on the staff firing on all cylinders from writing to music to gameplay, and Kojima indulgences kept in check. Naked Snake, who was very obviously Big Boss from the second an antagonist was called The Boss and a trailer showed him with his right eye injured, was still energetic and goofy in a way that set him apart from Solid Snake and endeared him to audiences.

That said, RE4 was absolutely momentous. It's figuratively the Rosetta stone of the third person shooter genre, where it went from "basically an FPS but you see your dude and the camera perspective is centered" to "over the shoulder camera, gun held up until aiming is pushed" that's the standard format for the genre today. Pre-RE4 TPS and post-RE4 TPS.
RE4 wasn't just the apex of the franchise, it's one of the most important games ever released, right next to Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, GTA3, Doom, Goldeneye, etc. Not to mention revitalizing a franchise that was stagnant for years and dumping its going-nowhere Umbrella plot.
It's not a fucking coincidence even Metal Gear's long standing control scheme changed post-RE4.

MGS3 has cool cutscenes and good stealth gameplay back in 6th gen when there were actually stealth games for it to compete with. It was easier for games press to jack Kojima off for giving everybody what they wanted. But RE4 was fucking Resident Evil 4 and it unambiguously had the bigger effect longterm.

>>714545191 (OP)
>mid 2000s
>best time ever to play vidya
>best time ever to watch anime
What the actual fuck happened, why did so much go so right at that exact point in time? I can barely stand either now.

>>714555797
video games and anime went mainstream instead of being nerdy subculture
cashcow becomes milked

>>714555797
late stage capitalism
you can see this in movies as well as any other media
quick buck rehashes, remasters, and formulaic shit being the norm. shareholders prefer to play it safe, there's no room for any kind of innovation when money dictates what is made

>>714545191 (OP)
>giga kino
Shut the fuck up, retard. You're like a walking abortion.

>>714546690
You know who lies? The game journo in that image
>What is Ada doing here
>How did she survive RE2
>Did it leave a sexy scar
>The answers to most of these burning questions can be found in RE4
Fucking liar, only the first of those questions is answered, the game doesn't explain how Ada survived OR reveal her sexy scar status. Fucking piece of shit LIAR

>>714555651
In sumary. RE4 is the gigakino. MGS3 is megakino.

>>714555797
>video games still cheap to make and fast to produce because HD graphics slaughter didn't happen yet, most games only needed tens or hundreds of thousands to be profitable, selling a million was huge but it wasn't necessary for everything outside of insane outliers
>so all kinds of genres could be supported
>video game publishers strategy is to make lots of different video games because it's easy to break even and if you get one huge hit, fantastic
>DVD is a new and cheap format and anime licenses were cheap as fuck cause Japanese production companies barely gave a shit so you could grab all kinds of shit for cheap and shit Toonami and Adult Swim were still grabbing up all kinds of joints to test palates if you just cared about what we now call "linear TV"
>Flash wasn't perfect but it was a robust widespread format that helped burgeoning indie game designers before the digital revolution
>but also internet becoming more well-cataloged and the torrent format being developed means filesharing was also easy as fuck

It was honestly a perfect storm of new and refined technologies and companies only having one way to make money off games: putting those games on shelves and selling them to people.

>>714556646
This doesn't really explain the japanese decided to stop making good anime tho.

>>714545191 (OP)
Both, back in those day we used to go to our friends houses to watch and play different games on different consoles, we used to solve our differences in melee, do some trickshots in halo 2 and play burnout in playstation, you zoomies will never experience that.

>>714545281
I like to joke that RE4 came out on the 13th month of 2004 whenever I try to argue that 2004 was the greatest year in gaming of all time.

>>714545191 (OP)
You were considered an outcast if you didn't play both actually

>>714550434
The ps2 port was ugly and watered down for ps2. That game was not good again till the second pc port and eventually the wii version was considered the best one.
The first re4 port was so fucking bad it didn't even have lighting.

>>714545191 (OP)
>giga kino
MGS hands down
RE4 overall was the game that people were more likely to play/like though

>>714547637
bait harded retard
>MGS3 was a classic from the moment it released
>MGS2 was hated on release (and still now) due to the raiden shit

>>714545191 (OP)
Both games were just magical in their own way, RE4 set the standard for 3rd person shooters while MGS3 is something that nobody tried to duplicate even to this day.
BUT the general consensus back in the PS2 era is that MGS3 is the best PS2 game.

>>714545191 (OP)
less people had gamecubes.