5080-bros, is it true?
Is 5090 the only 4K card?

if only care about 1080p 60fps, will a 4060 or 70 be good for a few years?

>>714587839 (OP)
If you have an Nvidia card and a 4K monitor, you're using DLSS for sure. And the definition of a "4K card" widens considerably, even a 4070 Ti is a 4K card in that scenario.

>>714587839 (OP)
>5090
>4K
last time i checked it runs at 60 fps only if you set the resolution to 1080p

>>714587839 (OP)
144hz 4K 4080 S user here, no probs, working fine on my machine.

>>714587993
No.

Im so sick and tired of the insane price increase high end pc gaming now compells. Im probably using my 3080 as long as I can and than just end uo getting the best card I can for like 500usd.

>>714587839 (OP)
>5080-bros, is it true?

Got 9800x3d and 5070ti and barely get 70fps when maxing MH Wilds @1440p (no dlss).

So yeah I guess the 5080 isnt a 4k card either.

>>714587839 (OP)
True. What's funny is people said same about 4080 vs 4090 but back then I immediately recognized 4090 aint no damn 4k card. 5090 probably isn't a true 4k card either so I'm waiting. God video cards suck these days considering their price.

Yes
No
Maybe

>>714587839 (OP)
Only if you're talking about native 4k or want to always max out a 240hz display. But the good news is that DLSS is BETTER when upscaling to 4k than it is when upscaling to lower resolutions.

>>714590524
>(no dlss).
Top retard.

I don't know, I just run at whatever settings I want on my 4090 and I almost always get at least 60fps.

>>714593465
DLSS is shit, makes stuff like hair look like ass.

>>714588625
You WILL pay $3000 for a card that can't even do 4K 60fps and you WILL like it.

>>714593813
Honestly, fair. DLSS does have a few artifacts weird situational artifacts, but then again, so does native TAA. I think DLSS is worth it for the performance and overall IQ increase, particularly with transformer model motion clarity.

paying thousands of dollars for a graphics card to produce AI resolution is crazy

>>714590971
Is this game actually bad or were all the negative reviews because you needed a supercomputer to run it in 1998?

>true 4k card
I've been hearing this meme since 2014 and every generation the goalpost is moved forward.
Play anything I mean ANYTHING except latest AAA sloppa at ultra placebo details and 4k is just fine.

>>714595112
Both. Game is blatantly unfinished with more bugs than an ant hive AND it required a (cray) supercomputer to run on release.

>>714595591
It HAS to be a moving target to ensure that certain groups convince themselves nobody should ever go above 1080p. If 4k was "easy" to run then it would mean admitting 1080p isn't end goal perfection and that cannot happen under any circumstances.

>>714587839 (OP)
>I guess I won the silicon lottery
How?
The average 5080 can do +400 and +3000
The best samples can do +500-520

My 3070 is a 1440p 144hz card
Because I don't play modern wokeware lmao!!!

>>714591403
True, DLSS at 4K pretty much carries these days. Native 4K is a meme unless you’re rocking a 5090 with a nuclear reactor strapped to your PSU. People act like they’re gonna pixel-count with a microscope mid-fight-meanwhile I’m out here getting smooth 90fps in Cybercuck 2077 with DLSS Quality and frame gen. Upscaling wizardry has gotten absurdly good, some of y’all are just coping because your eyes are still stuck in CRT land.

>>714597054
>and frame gen
look, I accept upscaling but I draw the line at frame gen

>>714588380
I have 4070s and play at 1440p and 120fps or 4k and 60fps unless the game is badly optimized so what are you talking about?

>4k

You're a funny guy.

4080=720p 60fps Native PT
4090=1080p 60fps Native PT
5090=1440p 60fps Native PT

You VVILL NOT fucking perform better than that at crackhead level nigger schizo roid maxxer settings beyond the ranges I precisely listed just now and this is NOT up for fucking debate you godanm luddite retard board. I don't know why I fucking love videogames so much more than other hobbies but holy fuck you people are stupid install gentoo.

>>714588149
and low settings with DLSS and frame gen enabled. Time to upgrade.

>>714597431
>60fps
eww

>>714597724
If you want higher than native 60fps you better enable that sloppy framegen or rely on upscaling, choose your path western man. I personally chose framegen as you can use a dual GPU method via LSFG instead of nigger aids nvidia DLSS and get much lower end to end latency, like over 10ms lower than DLSS framegen.

>>714587839 (OP)
without upscaling factored in it's the 3rd best 4k card on the market, so that's a silly statement

Unless you're using it for its real intended purpose (60+ to 120 etc.), there's just something non-white and third-world about framegen.

All those videos with new games, GTX 1650, low settings, FSR quality and FSR framegen (or even Lossless Scaling framegen) to 58 FPS. I know it's you Americans and other brown thirdies playing like that.

>>714587839 (OP)
The 5080 is a 4k card for sure, although you have to get comfy lowering the graphics settings and using dlss, since njudea has completely abandoned generational improvements and they're now just releasing the same gpu but with improved RT and tensor cores, with all the performance coming from increased power and faster vram.

>>714598221
I own a 4090 and use a secondary rx6400 for LSFG to play at 1440p using DLSS quality for upscaling and AA and then push my native 60fps to the 120+ range. Works amazingly for everything but frame perfect multiplayer fighting games.

>>714597392
>i only play old shit and that runs fine
Anon, thats great and all and prolly 100% correct, but dont give people advice based on that. My 4090 struggled with some games at 4k WITH dlss and that card is almost a 2x. A couple of years I would assume is until the 70 series, and I dont even see a 4090 hold up at 1440p 60 by then.

I still use a 1070

>>714587839 (OP)
5090 is 1440p card.
4K isn't possible on today's hardware.

5090 is the 1440p card, 5080 is 1080p.
The only 4k card is RTX pro 6000

>>714587839 (OP)
We have 4k cards if you ignore all the raytracing and such. But you have to pick.

>>714587839 (OP)
People called the 3080 a 4K card when it released. It just depends on what you're playing. Anyone trying to classify cards as only being for a certain resolution is retarded.

>>714598474
RE4 Remake is old shit? Which game 4070s can't play at 1080p and 60fps?

>>714595591
games keep running worse and worse with little to show for it

>>714596212
>admitting 1080p isn't end goal perfection and that cannot happen under any circumstances.
Wow, bro. Sounds like a conspiracy.

>>714600212
>what is a market
You don't seem very wise, go play some grand strategy games if you need tips on how the world works.

There isn't a single game I can't run at 4k with my 3080, granted I will use DLSS if I need to. But I'm still able to get that "4K" experience.

>>714587993
If you only care about 1080p 60fps, you're simply based

>>714587839 (OP)
no such thing as 4k card anymore
it's all upscaled 720p

>>714600947
I love 4k because I can simply turn off AA and have no jaggies. But if only I could have such low standards and feel content. Would have saved me so much money, so its very based.

>>714587993
No. Unless you plan on emulating old games and playing indies shitty developers will make sure that your build will be outdated. I suggest getting into another hobby

>>714587839 (OP)
RTX has too many driver issues

Buy AMD Radeon instead

If you can't buy a 4090 or 5090 you should just buy a console

Hard to justify PC prices

>>714590524
You're gimping yourself if you're not using DLSS upscaling.

>>714587839 (OP)
>5090
>4K

>>714602459
5070ti seems fine. Unless you are 4k the "budget" options are very good. Which is hilarious cause 750 MSRP used to be flagship tier pricing.