The fact that Death Stranding sold enough to justify a sequel and actually has a fanbase scares me.
People complained about how boring and repetitive fetch quests are for many years. Then Kojima makes a game that is literally nothing but fetch quests and people celebrate him for his "innovation"!?
Wtf is this horse shit!? It's the boringest trash ever!

kojima drones are a special breed

>>714615048 (OP)
>a game that is literally nothing but fetch quests
Please tell me you play Skyrim and you somehow gave that an "Ok"

>>714615048 (OP)
>People complained about how boring and repetitive fetch quests are for many years.
It's about the journey, the storytelling the cinematic narrative, the way you navigate through the worlds obstacles, you use melee, guns, grenades, various equipments like grappling hooks, ladders, energy drinks, cars, bikes, ect. You have a massive amounts of tools. It's a survival game. And you have to manage all the fragile equipment while fighting off pirates and BT's. It's simply not a walking simulator and you've never played Death Stranding. Fucking nigger.

>thing bad
>that mean thing bad forever
You are a pitiable creature.

>>714615745
All that bullshit you mentioned could be fun if there were any actual challenges. But the game is piss easy. The worst that happens is some "obstacle" wastes a bit more of your time. It’s literally a game designed to eat up your time, and doing well just means you get to play less of it. Even when other players "help" you, all it does is let you skip more of the game, which is exactly what you want, because it's so boring.

The core concept, i.e. a challenging journey where you need to be well-prepared, exploring a mysterious, unfamiliar world, is solid. That should be exciting. But they ruined it by turning you into a glorified delivery guy endlessly backtracking through an empty world filled with shallow, easily bypassed "challenges."
And the story is told in a shitty way too. Why not play as a character unfamiliar with that world and then when it's explained to him, it's explained to us? Instead we have to cringe expositions like "Oh you probably know the female president...cause she is your mother!"

>>714615048 (OP)
the game is propped up by libtard money trying to break into video games. theres no reason to get all these actors who command high salaries. guillermo del toro (lmfao) like no one cares about this niggas model except libs. edgelord libgame

>>714616319
>All that bullshit you mentioned could be fun if there were any actual challenges. But the game is piss easy.
Play on very hard then.
>The worst that happens is some "obstacle" wastes a bit more of your time. It’s literally a game designed to eat up your time,
No, it doesn't. You have to use problem solving skills to navigate. It's not a way to just waste your time. Lol.
>But they ruined it by turning you into a glorified delivery guy endlessly backtracking through an empty world
You're contradicting yourself. So does it have obstacles or is the world barren? Make your decision nigger.
>And the story is told in a shitty way too
Majority of people who played it, and the massive amounts of critics can say otherwise. Nigger.

>>714616521
Pull up ONE tweet where he acts like a Libtard. I'll wait.

>>714615048 (OP)
not enough bing bang wahoo for you?

>>714616521
Bro what are you even on about? “Libtard money”? Kojima’s been making weird auteur shit since the '90s, and now suddenly his casting choices mean he’s part of some Hollywood psyop? Get your tinfoil hat adjusted. This is just Kojima being Kojima - dude loves movies, actors, and overly long monologues about the human condition. You can hate the game, fair enough, but pretending it’s part of some grand lib agenda is pure schizo posting. Go outside.

>>714616527
The bulk of the gameplay boils down to watching your character trudge. It’s somehow even duller than it sounds, especially given how little variety or memorable locations the map offers.

Even if the core boring gameplay stays the same, you could massively improve the experience by restructuring the journey. Instead of constantly sending the player back and forth, have the character press forward across the entire map toward one ultimate destination. Make it a real journey that goes deeper and deeper into the unknown, with strange, unsettling encounters along the way. Maybe throw in some actual companions too, i.e. ones the protagonist actually connects with, rather than being this weird, half-mute guy who just stares blankly while others pour their hearts out.
>Majority of people
"Appeal to the people" is a logical fallacy. Give an actual reason why the shitty writing is good in your opinion.

i posted this in another thread but i wanna say it aagain. i don't know how or why but i'm replaying with the director's cut and it feels so much easier. i'm not knocking the game, i played the original and 100%ed it. but things like going to port knot for the first time or getting the craftsman's tools seemed to have way less bts even on normal, especially the craftman's tools. i remember that area being an absolute stormy infested shithole (in a good way) where i had to run away, but in the dc i walked right into the shelter and barely even two bts came close to me.

>>714617410
This. Funny how the faggots who endlessly whine about politics in video game also make every single discussion of a video game about politics.

Player for 3 hours, didn't get a gun. Didn't even see an enemy. Fried told me to keep going. Played for 3 more hours, didn't get a gun.
People really play this shit?

>>714617658
>"Appeal to the people" is a logical fallacy. Give an actual reason why the shitty writing is good in your opinion.
Whatever. Go fuck yourself. I'm not going to write a shitton of words to convince you. I'm never will be able to convince you. Just log off Xitter you fucking retard gorilla nigger. I'm out.

>>714617745
Fucking. This. So much this.

>>714617868
> game about walking around not killing people
> complain you didn't get a gun
this may be a very complex concept but perhaps this is not a game for you?

>>714617745
Everyone kept clowning on "LOL ITS A GAME WHERE YOU HAVE TO STOP FROM FALLING OVER LMAOOOOOOO" even though the environment being the challenge is quite literally the point of the entire game, KojimaPro totally took any challenge out because gamers are retarded. Fuck gamers

>>714617868
you dont get firearms until much later and even then you don't really need them unless your farming catchers for chiralium. shooting mules and not incinerating them will just necro the bodies and cause a voidout

It's ok, go wait for the next soulsborne slop of regurgitated mechanics and a gameplay cycle that only exists to make you feel like a badass. Death Stranding and DS2 are not games for narcissistic people. I don't mean people that take pride in themselves, I mean actual pathological narcisists.

>>714615048 (OP)
i hope you had a lovely independence day american

>>714615745
>the storytelling the cinematic narrative

>>714615469
Nothing in his post suggests he does. Why are fraudjima shills like this???

>>714618774
I'm asking retard.

>>714616319
And then faggots like you turn around and say Elden Ring is the best game. Fuck yourself, nigger.

>>714618746
Some people are purpose driven, they don't play games to pass time in dumb shit that does not lead to gathering knowledge. Most nintendo games are like that, brainless fun.

The amount of shills ITT is off the charts. Fuck I hate /v/eddit

>>714617912
>>714617658
> Even if the core boring gameplay stays the same, you could massively improve the experience by restructuring the journey. Instead of constantly sending the player back and forth, have the character press forward across the entire map toward one ultimate destination. Make it a real journey that goes deeper and deeper into the unknown, with strange, unsettling encounters along the way
This is the game design problem Kohima didn’t seem to solve with the first game and the addition of the mobile base and increased combat encounters looks like it’ll only have made it worse in DS2.

>>714615048 (OP)
Did they do anything to the boring BT fields from the first game
I thought that was the worst thing in the game, where the only thing that is really supposed to create some kind of challenge with normal deliveries was just a bunch of invisible mannequins that are pure tedium to get through

>>714618814
You're being an effeminate shill faggot that can only deflect like you've been doing the entire thread from the elephant in the room. Rapeape should live up to his name and get raped for sanctioning marketing campaign shills flooding multiple boards, same with /tv/ too

>>714617912
Discussing video games on a video game discussion board!??!
Yeah you really should not do that!
I am here because I WANT to share my opinions on something and read the opinions on others.
Why the fuck are you here!?

>>714619102
DID I NOT ASK HIM? LOOK AT MY POST AGAIN RETARD!!!!

>>714619128
I will talk about and say what I want to say, I am not your nigger slave to force me to write shit. Fuck off.

>>714619145
I hope you get raped by a pack of feral BT's

I currently have 1 hour logged and I played a total of like 5 minutes in that time.
It went
>cutscene
>walk around grab some boxes and walk to cave
>cutscene
>walk around grab some boxes and head to a the drop off point
>menus about the boxes I dropped off
>cutscene (got in truck with guy)
>cutscene (truck guys died and big bad happen)
>cutscene (wake up to fat guy)
And then I got off.
Honestly, I went into this expecting it to be just this and it's been okay so far. I just get myself into the mindset I'm watching a movie, not playing a game.

>>714619092
They have instant tar fields, like it automatically triggers a boss fight, you can leave, but at least you don't have to let yourself fall down

>>714615048 (OP)
Uhhh bro the emperor's clothes are actually amazing? You're not an unwise person are you???

>>714619260
Nigga you are about to go in a 10 hour no cutscene gameplay portion ala MGSV style.
I'm the type of mgs fan that prefers almost 40/60 cutscene to gameplay ratio.
This one has like 20/80 cutscene to gameplay.
MGSV was like 10/90, maybe 5/95.

>>714618396
Baby Steps looks like a much better game about this concept than Death Stranding where your "challenge" is to lean while walking.

>>714618923
>they don't play games to pass time in dumb shit that does not lead to gathering knowledge
But you can play a game without the story mattering or being present whatsoever, and still be purpose driven.
Like this old legend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQizuEu6RmM

You don't just learn how to optimize your points gains without playing and gathering knowledge over time and reiterating with new ideas and strategies and learning even more as you acquire even more knowledge.

>>714619406
sounds like fun
I've never played any kojima before, so I have no reference to MGSV.

>>714615048 (OP)
I thought the fanbases for E33 and Elden Ring Nightreign were a bunch of fucking obnoxious fags but over the course of a week the Death Stranding 2 fags managed to show me what fags truly looked like

>>714619406
Oh wow, instead of boring cutscenes we have boring "gameplay" to exchange them with. Rivetting stuff. Get rid of one complaint and you still have countless more because the whole thing shit no matter how you spin it

>>714619624
It's more fun because DS2 has more shit to do. MGSV was just base infiltration after base infiltration, you got some different weapons and shit but nothing substantially different. That game is so bare bones

>>714619685
Alot of them are pretty blatant shills. /v/ isn't organic, the mod leak proved that

>>714619208
Then why are you even still in this thread and even bother responding to me!?

>>714615048 (OP)
It's worse than boring, it's actively annoying and unpleasant to play. I wish it was the walking sim people accuse it being of but it isn't. BTs are awful enemies, not fun to sneak around, not fun to fight, not fun to avoid, not fun anything.

>>714619685
>>714620019
>“Wahh people won’t buy our bullshit complaints cuz it sounds like we never played the game”
>it’s the heckin shills I tell you!!
Lmao, lol perhaps

>>714620019
Well yeah, but even as far as shills go they are ubisoft levels of gay. Hell I dont even think E33 is a terrible game but their shills were obnoxious as sin. Death Stranding 1 was boring as shit so maybe its just complete bias

>>714620557
Outer Wilds and Disco Elysium fags are pretty bad too yeah

>>714620759
>Outer Wilds
Ahahahaha yep, you guys are retards, can’t even discern the two games apart

>>714616319
>The worst that happens is some "obstacle" wastes a bit more of your time. It’s literally a game designed to eat up your time, and doing well just means you get to play less of it
That is true of any game that involves the player character becoming stronger or building infrastructure. You are not clever, at all.

>>714619486
That game looks absolutely fucking unbearabel

>>714621253
The Guided Fate Paradox is pure fucking ludo. Autistic goodness. I love the game so much. It's genuinely splendid.

>>714617658
Sounds like you should stick to the Last of Us or something like that. This game is about not getting your cargo damaged, in that regard the obstacles and economy are pretty well designed.

>>714616319
>some "obstacle" wastes a bit more of your time
so like Elden Ring or some other games you'd probably praise to heaven and back

>>714615048 (OP)
>literally nothing but fetch quests

And I like it like that