Thread 714629152

Why do all consoles still use HDMI instead of the superior DisplayPort?

>>714629152 (OP)
Because HDMI gets the job done

>>714629152 (OP)
More TVs and monitors have HDMI than they do DisplayPort.

It’s the same reason why white chicks prefer hung high melanin alpha males over tiny white dicks

>>714629152 (OP)
Displayport can't output audio
>just buy a sound system
No

>>714629152 (OP)
its LITERALLY a cartel. HDMI isn't a port it's a DRM chip and you have to pay extra money up to decode anything passing through HDMI cables. TVs and consoles alike are extorted into this.

Displayport might be just as good but the quality control for their cables sucks. Ive had so many DP cables that have random artifacting at high resolutions/refresh rates because the chinese just fucking lie about what the cable is. I know it happens with HDMI also but ive had way mote success with 2.1 cables

A thread died for this dumb post..

>>714629423
displayport can output audio, i'm doing it right now.

displayport is significantly easier to damage the cable i've noticed.

>>714629423
>Displayport can't output audio
Are you fucking retarded?

>>714629423
DP does do audio, my monitor had speakers and used DP
Had it default to the monitor before

>>714629836
Maybe if the lower class weren't such thieves we wouldn't have to go to such lengths to protect our media. We said "don't copy that floppy", you copied it anyway. We said unauthorized streaming or torrenting will lead to fines and prison time, you did it anyway. We could put "digital piracy is BAD" in big red letters and talk about how it takes food off our table but it wouldn't be enough. Poorfags just don't think middle management are people and it's sad. Why would I want to give my tax money to them after what they say about us?

>>714629836
>bypasses your DRM
nothing personnel kid

>>714629152 (OP)
Costs more to license your console out to DisplayPort.

>>714629836
>DP does HDCP as well
>retard doesn't know this

>>714629152 (OP)
do you know how many morons have broken DP cables because they don't know how have to press to release?

HDMI is idiot proof, the only way to make it more idiot proof would be to swap it all to magnetic Thunderbolt 4

>>714630667
>trying to get people to google 'hdcp'
nice try FBI

I was googling DP vs HDMI and just learned that I can daisy-chain multiple monitors using DP. This will help cut down on my ugly cable management. I've always wondered how people use like 4 monitors with 1 graphics card. It also explains why so many monitors have 1 hdmi but 2 (TWO) display ports.

>>714630692
Mine didn't have buttons, neither the wire that came with the monitor, or the braided cable I bought aftermarket.

Displayport is shit for video games and television.

>>714630692
I have a portable monitor that gets power, audio, and 2k resolution just from one tiny usb4 cable. Feels like magic.

>>714630915
>I've always wondered how people use like 4 monitors with 1 graphics card.
Most GPUs have 3 or 4 ports to output from. My 3070 Ti has 1 HDMI + 3 DP for example. Also it's not a good idea to daisy chain your monitors because you're likely to run into bandwidth issues because all monitors have to use the same cable. So unless you are just using it to connect say 2 side monitors and putting your main monitor on it's own cable just don't do it.

>>714629275
More tvs do not monitors

>>714629330
rangeban india

>>714629152 (OP)
>HDMI 2.1 - 48 Gbps
>Displayport 1.4a - 32 Gbps
You'd have to be a moron to use DP over HDMI at this point.

>>714629152 (OP)
Because TVs

>>714633059
>HDMI 2.1 - 48 Gbps
>Displayport 2.1 - 80Gbps
You'd have to be a moron to use HDMI over DP at this point.

>>714629152 (OP)
Difference between HMDI & DP? I hope EU makes a law that makes it illegal for companies to make one or the other just like they made a law that USB-C will remain as the standard cable for the future.

>>714629152 (OP)
Because most consoles are played on TVs. And most TVs have HDMI(usually 2 or more), but no displayport. Whether that's good or shit, that's the fact.
Is Not Difficult.

>>714629152 (OP)
Televisions.
Are you retarded?

My tv is 17 years old and has 5 HDMI ports. Why the fuck are we still using HDMI after two decades. Is it not time to move on?

>>714629836
every digital AV port does this.

>>714633652
>I love government-enforced monopolies
corpo bootlicker

>>714635150
USB is 20+ years old. even new TVs have a hookup for cable, which is like 50 years old at this point.

>>714635947
DVI doesn't require HDCP but it supports it.

>chad Huge Dick Multimedia Interface
>virgin DoublePenetration
yeah no thanks

>>714630296
They don't make cables, they just do the VESA certifications. Just look for the ones on amazon. Accell, cable matters. and Startech have never let me down

>hdmi costs money per port
>dp is free
>everyone is still using hdmi
This means there's some monetary incentive to keep using hdmi even if it costs money. Find that and you know why they use inferior tech

>>714635150
the plug is the same but they've been updating the cable and the signal over time.

>>714630758
480 was good enough.

>>714636620
market saturation m8. There is no hidden schizo conspiracy theory, take your meds. HDMI got out to the consumer media market first with TVs/DVD/Blu-ray players/Game consoles. That's it.

>>714636753
640x480 is gods chosen resolution, can broadcast analog over the radio

>>714636085
Antenna still goes over coax, which more people than you'd expect use. Especially older folk who drop cable TV, but aren't seeing the value in streaming services, or people who just want network/affiliates.

>>714636787
They could be putting DP ports on their TVs and slowly phase out HDMI but don't do it for some reason

>>714636787
Anon probably still thinks HD-DVD was god's chosen standard it was only because the evil snoys took it away, that we used blu-ray instead.

>>714636930
my point was there's nothing stopping broadcast using HDMI, the signal is all digital now anyway.

>>714637063
you gotta go back further.

>>714636974
Boomers would have to replace their input media as well, they would never do it.

>>714630692
>that hamtaro sticker
Absolute Kino!

>>714636974
no

I need 8 hdmi ports and I will not use a switcher

>>714637110
Except for the countless legions of buildings that're already wired for coax and all.
>inb4 indoor antenna
They're shit in 80% of locations, mate. You need an external to get all the signals you should.

>>714637414
you've narrowed the usecase down to
>old people who want to watch broadcast TV specifically and have nobody to set up internet television, and live in an apartment complex with terrible internal signal and is old enough to only have coaxial still available

I hate that multi monitors doesn't work right with DP. If you have multiple monitors and turn one off the PC doesn't know it's still there and fucks up all your desktop and windows and shit every time you turn one off or on.

>>714636016
>government enforced standards that are pro consumer
The opposite of corpo bootlicker

>>714637903
>banning competition and letting one company have total control over a market is "pro consumer"
same retard who would've cheered for the British East India Company being allowed to control the world's tea supply and running the whole of India as a giant private for-profit plantation.

>>714637824
I think there are ways around that but it's an issue with Windows

>>714630915
Like anon said, modern graphics cards since a decade ago have at least 4-5 ports. They're usually mixed between HDMI and Display port though. I think it's like 3 HDMI and 2-3 Display port.

>>714637352
The hamtaro sticker is kino, but the other stick is ultra cringe.

>>714629152 (OP)
>buy Displayport cable
>plug it in
>monitor wigs the fuck out and goes black constantly
>switch back to HDMI
>it just werks
I have had a total of 3 bad Displayport experiences, and 0 HDMI issues.

>>714639654
on the same monitor?

>>714639693
Different monitors different gpus.

>>714629152 (OP)
Because almost 0 TVs support Display Port.

>>714632778
And guess what the overwhelming majority of people are playing consoles on.

>>714639654
>have 2 monitors with DP
>don't always use 2nd monitor so I sometimes turn it off or put it to sleep.
>turns out DPs behave like they are disconnected when a monitor is turned off or sleeping. HDMIs treat it like the second monitor is still plugged in.
>my display goes from extended monitor to single monitor and fucks up my entire program layout, scattering them to the corners of the earth every time I turn my 2nd monitor off/on
>switch to HDMI, never have this problem again
I guess this could technically be a good thing for some people but it was driving me crazy.

>>714640719
>turns out DPs behave like they are disconnected when a monitor is turned off or sleeping. HDMIs treat it like the second monitor is still plugged in.
>my display goes from extended monitor to single monitor and fucks up my entire program layout, scattering them to the corners of the earth every time I turn my 2nd monitor off/on
well shit, thank you for solving this issue for me I've just been dealing with it

>>714641870
technically as long as the cable is plugged in the hdmi is powered up and active, its not just a cable its got the microchips.

>>714640719
There are ways around that but you would think Microsoft or monitor manufacturers would have fixed this by now. I bet the monitors could simply have some very cheap solution where the monitor doesn't tell the computer you turned it off unless you unplug the DP cable or power cable

>>714641969
they did the opposite, added stuff that explicitly tells the computer about the stats of the screen so you can't over-rate it and blow it up or just get better performance.

>>714629152 (OP)
All the major TV manufacturers are part of the HDMI Forum consortium, they produce their TVs with only HDMI ports so every device that wants to ever plug into them has to pay the Forum, and therefore the TV manufacturers, a licensing fee.

>>714642461
Those sons of bitches. Would also make sense why PC/monitors favor DisplayPort instead.

>>714632778
There's a decent chance a somewhat older monitor will have HDMI and not DP.
HDMI is still the more universal one

>>714629152 (OP)
is a console even powerful enough to reap the advantages of display port?

>>714629152 (OP)
Both

>>714632778
my monitor that i got a month ago has 2 hdmis and one display port

>>714629275
>>714629223
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>>714629330
Because HDMI was designed for TVs and Display Port for monitors.

>>714630692
Most DP cables nowadays don't even have the locking mechanism anymore because of that.

>>714630915
wtf is this black magic?

>>714629152 (OP)
Because every device has it

>>714644183
I wouldn't say most, haven't even seen a DP cable without lock despite getting several quite recently

>>714631436
Yes but not every PC/laptop has it

>>714642461
Why don't Chinese TV makers kill HDMI with DP?

>>714629423
i think your monitor just doesn't have speakers or your retarded

>>714629423
>techlet

>>714629423
lmao retard

>>714629152 (OP)
Most TVs can't support anything over 60hz and normalfags don't play consoles on computer monitors. They don't need anything better than HDMI.

>>714636620
that and a lot of the companies that produce TVs, video game consoles, media players, etc are part of the HDMI group, so they benefit from having the racket forcing everyone to use HDMI for TV-centric consumer products. PCs only escaped this fate because other HD standards were already a thing before HDMI came out, so the two evolved in parallel.

>>714629152 (OP)
They'll never output enough data to overtax an HDMI.

>>714629223
fpbp, OP on suicide watch

>>714629152 (OP)
Because HDMI is owned by a conglomerate of corporate entities with big skin in the home entertainment hardware game. Sony, Phillips, Hitachi, and Toshiba all have a stake in hdmi, and they all get royalties when the ports are used on devices. Anyone else who uses hdmi has to pay them to use it.

Display port is open source, so it's free to use since it was created by VESA to standardize monitor cables on one ubiquitous royalty free setup so the market could move away from the hodgepodge it had at the time of VGA/HDMI/DVI, etc.

tl;dr a cadre of big entertainment hardware companies profit off HDMI and won't let it die

>modern TVs are bloated sluggish "smart" crap
>monitors are pretty much better in every way except it's hard to find large ones and they never ever have remote control options, so using them from the couch is a huge pain in the ass

I bet the jews are behind this

The HDMI on my TV does 4k 144hz, why would it need anything else? Also, TVs don't have display ports so why in the fuck would they put a display port on a console which plugs into a TV 99% of the time. Consoles can't even do 4k 60.

>>714629152 (OP)
they're both shit. everyone should use SDI for everything

>>714646013
>not using 13w3
NGMI

>>714629836
why is /v/ so chock full of fanatical schizoid techlets like that? This make flat earth sounds vaguely believable

>>714646597
he's right though, it's literally a group called HDMI Forum made up of a bunch of huge entertainment companies.

USB will soon put both of them in the grave.

>>714647061
USB is a convoluted mess. Nobody even fucking knows whether or not their device with USB is able to output video over it until they try and get utterly disappointed by this feature being absent.

>>714630514
Good thing you're inept and stupid or else you might actually convince someone to believe your blatant bullshit

I wish more cables had a 90 degree connector.

>>714644580
Why would they produce a TV no one wants because all their HDMI devices can't use it?

>>714644580
Because the Chinese don't want to drive away manufacturing contracts from the HDMI Zaibatsu. Doesn't make sense for Sony or Toshiba to keep all their shit being made in china, if the chinese are trying to rug their format right? That's how you get your TV's and electronics made in india.

>>714647406
You can buy a chinky version of almost any cable with one.

>>714643964
Ironic because HDMI just repackaged DVI, a free monitor format, and made it proprietary

>>714647730
Most of the ones I see don't support 240hz.

>>714647956
HDMI: https://a.co/d/j6gjmGy
DP: https://a.co/d/aRxdQEe

Ironically Display Port can commonly carry CEC for control of TV's and such while HDMI CEC support is rare on PCs

>>714648104
Cheers

>>714629152 (OP)
because consolesfags are poorfags, and hdmi is for poorfags.

>>714644404
Display Port is just blocks of data like USB, indeed usb4 and thunderbolt include it as a mandatory feature. Though in practice supporting multiple displays from one port depends on the source and you can't push infinite pixels down the wire so a 3 monitor setup will have limited resolution