Well Well Well
https://youtu.be/AAfOwwEcgFM
Guess now we know why Sonic's music was always so good huh? Bunch of frauds
Just like the old DBZ games...

A lot of Japanese composers do this.

>>714631464 (OP)
Sonic CD got a bunch of samples from a CD didn't it? I don't think that plagiarism.

Bro like 90% of awesome Japanese chip tunes from the 4th/5th gen is just straight stealing melodies and sound fonts from 80s pop/dance music. the on board sound processors on the SNES and Genesis were mini-Yamahas it was always an easy sound to emulate

Some of them obviously went too far and just straight up copied it but it was always a stolen sound. And I don't care because campy synth is the best musical sound ever created

>>714631547
You're telling me
https://youtu.be/ooSEdnLZ79M

https://youtu.be/FZZeOh2DL7M
Kino

>>714631464 (OP)
Not saying they can't have been inspired but some of these are just here cause they have the same drumline.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLis3WHJzMk&list=RDaLis3WHJzMk&start_radio=1
Wtf! square literally plagarised from rick astley!!! hyooooooge scandal :OOOOOOO

it's not a scandal if nobody cares

https://youtu.be/9jicFDOPKM8?t=58
No comment needed

this is extremely common with vidya

>>714631464 (OP)
Plagarism doesn't matter desu.

>>714631547
Not even just jap composers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjy8XqJClTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBU3uAzRejs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBU3uAzRejs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rysiE64fkvY
Good artists copy, great artists steal.

https://youtu.be/dWbSg0VOSgg
https://youtu.be/IrX9TdxAsTA
Wow

>>714632508
ah fuck, turrican should be by the transformers one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6jjpwpDVNY

Friendly reminder that Mozart stole music.

>>714632675
Most popular artists steal music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeYwObD-j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXQ0c_5v3Ak
The sad fact is no one really cares about originality, that's why AI slop is so popular right now.

I don't know if you're being serious with the accusations, but careful OP. There are suits and other accountants who lurk these sites in the hopes of finding something that infringes copyright or anything that can build a case for a lawsuit.

But in any case,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDPgMWeVdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgGwI12zMJg (1:43)

this is sega's 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5ef_KAZlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKL0BtScEd8
How did Sega get away with this one

>>714632867
Surely Sega wouldn't be THAT petty to have a suit browsing 4chan to find this thread and get their lawyers ready fo- FUCK I CAN'T DELETE THE OP

Here's the second video
https://youtu.be/8RFwOXUXDlc
>That full house melody
Fucking kek

This one was pretty blatant:
https://youtu.be/0di6EY1p20U
https://youtu.be/XvziPPpryv0

https://youtu.be/cLLKQs7ZSt0
https://youtu.be/6V3KDQh9DVI
UHHHHHHHHHH

>>714633151
Yeah, Need For Speed Underground was also extremely guilty of this
https://youtu.be/-mvoGIkPTRE
https://youtu.be/zwwSbyNwtZc

>>714633081
How did they do all that shit for Bridge Zone but not one of the most obvious inspirations for it
https://youtu.be/5CHEqJgf7dw?feature=shared&t=61

>>714632867
The bass walk down patterns? I wanna say it's way too simple to "steal".

>>714631464 (OP)
Honestly I just appreciate the music recommendations, thanks OP

Shakatak is fucking groovy

>>714632080
Yeah. Musicians always toe a fine, not always clear line between sampling and theft too, which doesn't help. >>714632867 is a good example of the former, as was that shit with Rock Howard's theme and Robert Miles' "children". Not stealing a song wholesale, but taking a large enough part to where you're not sure if they're paying an homage or just ripping it off.

uhhm guys!?

https://youtu.be/Pr-0UiVV7mQ?si=1gE0OTjmbp8qkoyu&t=42

https://youtu.be/NNwnH6Q-YMs?si=-OoqmFkNdnIETuxc&t=38

>>714632996
Did you mean
https://youtu.be/H2OWC5Hosv8?si=o9RKoEhsDmzJQciV

>>714631749
>>714631881
I'm glad that these were the first examples used. I still love these songs tho

>>714633383
>>714633475
I know it's a stretch, but when I heard that baseline in P3's example, I thought of that same line in Good Foot. It's not Japan doesn't know who he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PchguzIBRZE

>March 23, 2023
https://youtu.be/7MiBd7k2zPQ

>September 28, 2023
https://youtu.be/e7LH8GaCwvY

Bro

https://youtu.be/TXOZRsUXVuw?feature=shared&t=89
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdakJqKPRDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_89YD34P8
Here's one I don't think I've ever seen brought up before. Composers (not even just with vidya) do this all the fucking time and it's not ever really worth the hassle to make it a huge legal problem unless it's blatant sampling and said sample goes uncredited (see Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure)

ITT people don't know what sample means.

>>714633970
https://youtu.be/_J028VW2Xl8
If these were "sampled" why he get fired?

>>714633904
I almost feel like in these scenarios it might be accidental. Music only has 12 notes and your only using 7 of them if you want to sound good. Its actually kind of a limited artform.

>>714634034
To avoid controversy.

>>714631464 (OP)
Has anyone got that song that sounds like blast hornet from MMX3?

>>714634298
Wait I found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MjYQR0tTI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvx2Kvut67Y

>>714631749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEoA8OlaUs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8JqY6ht3Q&pp=ygUYZHJhZ29uIGJhbGwgc3RyYXRvdmFyaXVz

>>714634874
Based
https://youtu.be/m0jLklJ4WVk

WHEN IVE OPENED MY HEART
AND I LIVED AND LEARNED
WHEN IM TAKING A STEP IN HIS WORLD

To me it was this one.
https://youtu.be/cxv-2FA_7Ek?si=UgTVQ8-ey63v4q3O

https://youtu.be/hQrvViwRZlQ?si=EGV-LfhoqYjOBw40

Wonder how many other times Far Beyond the Sun was used like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ0U9C6lxas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7t5jAsTcuY

>>714633151
this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Iwytfa6ms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu1KM9HMpso

some of these just feel like coincidences

Uhh... Mariobros? (lol)
https://youtu.be/ZX5ef_KAZlY?si=tEjuntCZ413BrELj

>>714633475
>not always clear line between sampling and theft too
it works like this: if a corpo sues you, it's theft. if you don't get sued, you're not stealing
the law doesn't make sense. unless there's literally no basis, victory goes to the party with the deepest pockets.

>game steals from game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOH3pe0Qy28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHIiIxtlaBM

>>714631547
Don't tell touhoufags that, they'll chimp out.

>>714631464 (OP)
Notice how it's mostly black artists? Yeah, Sonic would be NOWHERE without the black influence.

>>714631464 (OP)
Duran Duran is great and I don't give a shit what anyone else says.

I'm probably decades late to the party but I just realized recently Elec Man's theme us pretty blatantly Faithfully by Journey

>>714637040
It's a joke amongst nip fans, ironically. Some dude has operated a website since the 90s listing all the songs he ripped off.

Listen to the part at 1:25

https://youtu.be/Biw2V00-FNo?si=0LiC0YHWqGT5q0sZ

Now listen to the piano at 1:20

https://youtu.be/JnJfY8qbqPg?si=Z_yucZbjLwFo4h_v

SEGA did this a lot

>>714632996
>>714633335
the funny part are these songs spawned sonic & mario themes.

>>714637146
More like Sonic is a thief like his influencers

I'll be honest.
sampling others' music and taking inspirations from them shouldn't be a crime
fuck copyright
>inb4 but what about muh plagiarism!
copyright has nothing to do with it. plagiarizing works in the public domain is illegal (fraud) despite their lack of copyright status.

>>714634034
because they don't live in america like we do where rap regularly samples shit like a fucking entire song by the policedfls fuck my fucking drunk ass fucking typeing fuck goddamn i inseted an e and forgot an r goddamn fuck these fucking fuckiety fucks

>>714638301
Anon's literally gonna meet the police tonight at this rate.

GUYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a01QQZyl-_I

>>714638301

>>714631464 (OP)
damn, nips got taste

>>714631547
ENTER:
https://youtu.be/ZX5ef_KAZlY?si=kuMVXo6Emd2NFz1m

>>714631464 (OP)
Straight Up by Paula Abdul sounds like a Sonic song to me.
https://youtu.be/El1kgCqD7Xk?si=AjzILAHF6ozupbBc

>>714637701
RIP Ryuichi Sakamoto
The man was a master of melodies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAiZQr38NYo&list=RDuAiZQr38NYo&start_radio=1

https://youtu.be/dadFQDqRJxU?si=TYiha2p4OzkntnSk

https://youtu.be/ahpSMkNoAI8?si=OhiYQwuyNLSyAIxY
https://youtu.be/Biw2V00-FNo?si=qCx6SxREmJs0duYJ&t=86

>>714631464 (OP)
Missed a pretty obvious one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O2nSf981XY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXMPx4DDVWM

>>714639367
I even noticed this one as a kid.

>>714631464 (OP)
/v/ is more autisitc than actual Sonicfags, kys OP

lmao japs cant do anything original

>>714631464 (OP)
why are autists so fucking tone deaf? these are vaguely similar at best.

https://youtu.be/rjny6yexCng

>>714638834
https://youtu.be/Zfvx7SpZ0Pg

fyi, sonic cd and einhander both stole, sorry, "sampled" a shit ton straight from lords of acids music from the early 90s

Not vidya but I've never seen it mentioned before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuWAGT9ZkYE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ0genMQYVc

>>714637701
when normalniggers catch me listening to YMO they say "huur it sounds like vidya music" when everything was basically stolen from them and a few others back then

>>714637432
Post the site? IMO it was a lot less embarrassing in the 98 days when touhou was really immersed in doijin culture

Bros, how the fuck did Shinkichi Mitsumune get away with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5W-QWeH60s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajcdlYUBklU

>>714638301
kek

Please tell me you can hear it too
I've thought this way since I was a kid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKJ2EZnnZRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQi8kknVjOM

>>714641537
Lemme find it. It's a Japanese blog and my skills deciphering the lunar language lay dormant.

Music copyright is weird because yeah I'm convinced this is the big reason why Mother 3 isn't getting released here but Doom derives a lot of its music from popular metal bands, the devs are open about it, and the composer was a lawyer.
I get Mother 3 derives from Michael Jackson and the Beatles but still

>>714640997
>lords of acid
MNO collective barely counts, anon. Do you fucking have any idea how many projects they were juggling and outputting in the 90s? The lords was just the one that actually took off pseudo-mainstream and got in movies. Fuck man, oliver adams and kahn alone must've had 50 different hustles going.
Doing anything remotely close to acid and NOT sounding like something they at some point touched is impossible.

>>714641818
kek yes

>>714641146
ofc the anime is plagiari- wait A-ko is from the 80s

>>714641537
>>714641874
I couldn't find what I was thinking of, but I did find:
https://niguruta.hatenablog.com/entry/20090317/1237261356
Which is from 2009 and funnier because it's a blog by /ourguy/ nigur-uta.

>>714641983
>sounding like
no, it wasn't "like", it was sampled and either slowed down or sped up. go listen to einhander and over 60% of it is their work and not someone else's. for whatever reason, the japanese steal more peoples music than any other group and they never credit anyone

>>714631464 (OP)
>>714631547
A lot of Japanese do this.

The ridiculous concept of "intellectual property" has rotted people's minds.

>>714632867
>There are suits and other accountants who lurk these sites
Haha. Yeah, suits would definitely consider 4chan to be a bastion of hidden knowledge, even if the last 105 times they listened to anons it turned out to be nonsense as soon as they spoke the idea aloud to a colleague.

>>714642504
>t. Ubisoft fingers typed this

>>714642504
You laugh but I posted a song in another board and the video went private shortly afterward. They lurk here.
YOU aren't fooling anyone marketer.

>>714631464 (OP)
lol that video is stupid, the melody is different in all the examples. The most you could say is some instruments are similar, but they're all using synthesizer sounds anyway. Stupid video and stupid thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZaSgnYLceQ&list=RDaZaSgnYLceQ

Another blatant Sonic example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNfh2BcHceQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boIq-ep5A9g&t=055s

>>714642451
Nihao

>>714642651
>and the video went private shortly afterward.
I keep finding accounts I like dying
Sometimes in the middle of listening to a song
I like to pretend I'm Truman and someone who has the rights to the track is a fan of me and had to wrestle between his idol's joy and his legal desires

>>714642750
>stardust speedway isn't walk the walk
>it sounds completely different!

>>714642286
Ok, I'm calling you out on this. Point me to the songs you think are direct theft. Because skimming through them, it sounds like you just never heard acid other than the one group(I can tell one you must be thinking of is Madness, but there's only superficial similarity there.)

>>714643123
>only superficial similarity
lmao

https://files.catbox.moe/q5kzij.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAk6PZdhevc

>JRPG fans when you show them ELP

>>714640997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpU5suqks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKNeX1ok3uo

>>714643570
first link is dead

>>714640997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dpU5suqksY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKNeX1ok3uo
Fucked up my first link

>>714643031
Autistic kino

>>714643296
Yes, superficial, like I said. The arrangements are not the same regardless of speed; only the sound of the synths and the general style(not that uncommon) are similar. FFS anon, if that's enough for you to scream theft, just dipping deeper into electronic period's gonna be enough to give you an aneurysm. You wouldn't survive an excursion into drum and bass.

>>714631464 (OP)
wow it's nothing.
>Love Won't Wait is probably the most damning thing on the list.
>other things include stuff we've known about Brad Buxer and Sonic 3's Jackson involvement for years.
>the Adventure games are in the style of Takanaka surf rock, but it only superficially sounds like him. making music in the same style of genre is not plagiarism.
>everything else is coincidences.

How did Nintendo get away with this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk4D7ZClKB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM3EqSf_V_g

>>714642208
strange oriental discourse is the worst

>>714643889
also how could i forget the insane.
>here's literally two seconds of Studiopolis followed by 9 of Consolation No 3
what

>>714631464 (OP)
Didn't ask don't care. I want sex with Amy Rose and you can't stop me

>>714637701
>>714639112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyAQOhNmybc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDoArVYNTrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7xAEd2heP4
(1)

>>714637701
>>714639112
>>714644159
(2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_jRaGSRNhw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhTz2v1YWNE

OG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxep-gS-Btg

I would call this a homage rather than plagiarism, but I never see this get brought up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvbh3NgbKjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqTfBysL0wE

>>714638098
Ian Flynn is what you get when you let wh*tes take the reigns on Sonic

It's always funny when people who don't know a lot about music begin to realize there's only 12 notes that you're working with. Does plagiarism happen? Yeah, but some shit is just reaching.

for once i'd love to see a plagiarism thread with actual real examples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2F_heuAWcU&t=84s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZktSPrGSck&t=37s

>>714646498
nothing is stopping you playing with microtonal instruments

https://youtu.be/NoVY7nvcel0?list=RDNoVY7nvcel0

https://youtu.be/OP63BRzKmB0?list=RDOP63BRzKmB0&t=25

It's ok
/v/eddit told me that nips stealing shit is ok somehow

Here's a weird one
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNRJ2v9IEfU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpFMuBHxGWs
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A5yJ5Z2Ezw

what's the scandal exactly?

>>714631464 (OP)
Don't let people know Uematsu stole the opening bars of a Let My Love Open the Door

>>714631464 (OP)
All these plagiarized song examples in a video game format is kino

Just admit it.

You all only bitch about plagiarism because you like watching people seethe and abusing any opportunity to get some composer/producer/whoever in a lot of trouble. I mean yeah, it's funny, but

None of you, or at least most of you, don't actually give a shit. Foremost reason is why would you? You're a fucking /v/irgin, there's no fucking way you're serious about it LMAO get fucking real. I know some of you would deny that but I know it's to maintain the facade for the other would-be anons to bite your bait anyway because that's what it's all about, right? Second, however, is that if you truly did understand what it means to plagiarize, then you must also understand that it's largely, but not completely, a nebulous concept. Sure, people like Kenji Yamamoto kinda just said fuck it and those examples are pretty bad, but many other cases I feel like aren't really cases at all, and are at worst opportunities for big labels and corporations to bully small people (which is analogus to the first point so I understand if that's still your fun and games). There are no original ideas anymore anyway. Sure, there's infinite possible note combinations that can form melodies, but we're several centuries into written music and, especially since DAWs came around, the shit just pours out.

Pours, pours, pours out.

Toby Fox used a small tidbit of Pokey Means Business in Omega Flowey's theme, and Megalovania uses literal samples from the same song, especially as the same song was originally a literal goddamn edit of the song for his EB hack. Is it plagiarism? Stealing?

I don't know, ask Nintendo of all fucking people. Sakurai still put the latter in fucking Smash.

It's just what-fucking-ever, man. It's all bullshit. This isn't even technically aimed at the trolls, it's just aimed at anyone still taking this seriously. I'm spoonfeeding you. Take this as your once in a blue moon sobering rant. I'm crossfaded as a mf btw that's probably why I did this gdoo night

I hope nobody is stupid enough to reply to that bait

Friendly reminder "plagiarism" threads are bottom of the barrel trash and deserve to be mocked

>>714631464 (OP)
nips are so fucking based holy shit

Bump

>>714631464 (OP)
>think its gonna be a big expose on why Jun Senoue is a fraud
>video made by literal who with songs that vaguely sound like other songs

>>714652989
>Vaguely

Mariobros, it's all over!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL4mLYOWReo

>>714637146
>black people make good music
yeah, i already knew.

>>714631464 (OP)
>it's okay when Guilty Gear steals half of X Japan and Blind Guardian riffs tho without giving any credit!!

>>714644096
we need you in the other sonic thread that's up

>>714653293
Kino

https://youtu.be/6pmpVubzzqM?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/gU8vDtDjgh4?feature=shared

One of the more blatant ones Ive noticed, same chord progression, overall sound and even bass sampling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K03ATBNi3Vw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw8LhykSKxw

ALEX YARDBROS DON'T LOOK

>>714639112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww71kaQA_eM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmBrb2CpD58
The man brought what might be the first originally CD-exclusive RPG into light with this fucking masterpiece (too bad he didn't do the rest of the music, but this track along cost a shit ton of money, and the game was already behind schedule).

>>714652989
You think Senoue composed every song in the Sonic series?

>>714652989
Real plagiarists create "sound-alikes" without stealing an entire melody or song structure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdjT_c9z0oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFhWicKmGz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYp-i_SDOw8

>>714656328
>this is what the plebes call "blatant"
was that flame? let me show you how

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqqq8uqSDnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JL4JXEv-RY

we'll build up to this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYuyWqp_4Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnyCxva6bA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH8suYtDPT8

and how was this not linked yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZaSgnYLceQ

>>714631464 (OP)
half of these are a massive stretch
"two seconds of a melody are somewhat similar"
still scared for when I do my game and inevitably plagiarise stuff though, doesn't seem like there's any good AI music plagiarism checker or anything out there yet

>>714659765
whoops meant to link this instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr8lfW0fqV4

>>714647769
everything sounds like everything else for some reason. i am very, very smart for noticing this. you're welcome

>>714648184
This really.

Super pretencious originality in most autistic literal sense of it is the reason why we had household appliance's orgy called Dubstep. Baseline and beats are like base crust in cuisine. You want think copyrighted?

>>714662351
based markov chain bot