SONIC MUSIC PLAGIARIZING SCANDAL
Well Well Well
https://youtu.be/AAfOwwEcgFM
Guess now we know why Sonic's music was always so good huh? Bunch of frauds
Just like the old DBZ games...
A lot of Japanese composers do this.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:32:22 AM
No.714631709
>>714631464 (OP)
Sonic CD got a bunch of samples from a CD didn't it? I don't think that plagiarism.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:32:45 AM
No.714631745
Bro like 90% of awesome Japanese chip tunes from the 4th/5th gen is just straight stealing melodies and sound fonts from 80s pop/dance music. the on board sound processors on the SNES and Genesis were mini-Yamahas it was always an easy sound to emulate
Some of them obviously went too far and just straight up copied it but it was always a stolen sound. And I don't care because campy synth is the best musical sound ever created
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:37:24 AM
No.714632080
>>714633475
>>714631464 (OP)
Not saying they can't have been inspired but some of these are just here cause they have the same drumline.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:37:30 AM
No.714632089
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLis3WHJzMk&list=RDaLis3WHJzMk&start_radio=1
Wtf! square literally plagarised from rick astley!!! hyooooooge scandal :OOOOOOO
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:38:06 AM
No.714632123
it's not a scandal if nobody cares
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:39:27 AM
No.714632196
this is extremely common with vidya
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:41:01 AM
No.714632276
>>714631464 (OP)
Plagarism doesn't matter desu.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:46:02 AM
No.714632573
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:47:41 AM
No.714632675
>>714632823
Friendly reminder that Mozart stole music.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:50:03 AM
No.714632823
>>714632675
Most popular artists steal music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdeYwObD-j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXQ0c_5v3Ak
The sad fact is no one really cares about originality, that's why AI slop is so popular right now.
I don't know if you're being serious with the accusations, but careful OP. There are suits and other accountants who lurk these sites in the hopes of finding something that infringes copyright or anything that can build a case for a lawsuit.
But in any case,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDPgMWeVdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgGwI12zMJg (1:43)
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:53:18 AM
No.714633012
>>714632867
Surely Sega wouldn't be THAT petty to have a suit browsing 4chan to find this thread and get their lawyers ready fo- FUCK I CAN'T DELETE THE OP
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:58:36 AM
No.714633348
>>714633151
Yeah, Need For Speed Underground was also extremely guilty of this
https://youtu.be/-mvoGIkPTRE
https://youtu.be/zwwSbyNwtZc
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:58:44 AM
No.714633358
>>714633081
How did they do all that shit for Bridge Zone but not one of the most obvious inspirations for it
https://youtu.be/5CHEqJgf7dw?feature=shared&t=61
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:59:10 AM
No.714633383
>>714633795
>>714632867
The bass walk down patterns? I wanna say it's way too simple to "steal".
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:00:30 AM
No.714633460
>>714631464 (OP)
Honestly I just appreciate the music recommendations, thanks OP
Shakatak is fucking groovy
>>714632080
Yeah. Musicians always toe a fine, not always clear line between sampling and theft too, which doesn't help.
>>714632867 is a good example of the former, as was that shit with Rock Howard's theme and Robert Miles' "children". Not stealing a song wholesale, but taking a large enough part to where you're not sure if they're paying an homage or just ripping it off.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:03:04 AM
No.714633627
>>714631749
>>714631881
I'm glad that these were the first examples used. I still love these songs tho
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:06:10 AM
No.714633795
>>714633383
>>714633475
I know it's a stretch, but when I heard that baseline in P3's example, I thought of that same line in Good Foot. It's not Japan doesn't know who he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PchguzIBRZE
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:08:10 AM
No.714633904
>>714634132
https://youtu.be/TXOZRsUXVuw?feature=shared&t=89
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdakJqKPRDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_89YD34P8
Here's one I don't think I've ever seen brought up before. Composers (not even just with vidya) do this all the fucking time and it's not ever really worth the hassle to make it a huge legal problem unless it's blatant sampling and said sample goes uncredited (see Ice Ice Baby and Under Pressure)
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:09:10 AM
No.714633970
>>714634034
ITT people don't know what sample means.
>>714633970
https://youtu.be/_J028VW2Xl8
If these were "sampled" why he get fired?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:11:50 AM
No.714634132
>>714633904
I almost feel like in these scenarios it might be accidental. Music only has 12 notes and your only using 7 of them if you want to sound good. Its actually kind of a limited artform.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:14:52 AM
No.714634298
>>714634660
>>714631464 (OP)
Has anyone got that song that sounds like blast hornet from MMX3?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:28:24 AM
No.714635137
WHEN IVE OPENED MY HEART
AND I LIVED AND LEARNED
WHEN IM TAKING A STEP IN HIS WORLD
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:34:27 AM
No.714635480
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:37:55 AM
No.714635709
some of these just feel like coincidences
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:55:39 AM
No.714636818
>>714633475
>not always clear line between sampling and theft too
it works like this: if a corpo sues you, it's theft. if you don't get sued, you're not stealing
the law doesn't make sense. unless there's literally no basis, victory goes to the party with the deepest pockets.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:58:42 AM
No.714637040
>>714637432
>>714631547
Don't tell touhoufags that, they'll chimp out.
>>714631464 (OP)
Notice how it's mostly black artists? Yeah, Sonic would be NOWHERE without the black influence.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:02:07 AM
No.714637263
>>714631464 (OP)
Duran Duran is great and I don't give a shit what anyone else says.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:03:06 AM
No.714637321
I'm probably decades late to the party but I just realized recently Elec Man's theme us pretty blatantly Faithfully by Journey
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:04:41 AM
No.714637432
>>714641537
>>714637040
It's a joke amongst nip fans, ironically. Some dude has operated a website since the 90s listing all the songs he ripped off.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:08:46 AM
No.714637721
>>714632996
>>714633335
the funny part are these songs spawned sonic & mario themes.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:14:12 AM
No.714638098
>>714646304
>>714637146
More like Sonic is a thief like his influencers
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:15:22 AM
No.714638171
I'll be honest.
sampling others' music and taking inspirations from them shouldn't be a crime
fuck copyright
>inb4 but what about muh plagiarism!
copyright has nothing to do with it. plagiarizing works in the public domain is illegal (fraud) despite their lack of copyright status.
>>714634034
because they don't live in america like we do where rap regularly samples shit like a fucking entire song by the policedfls fuck my fucking drunk ass fucking typeing fuck goddamn i inseted an e and forgot an r goddamn fuck these fucking fuckiety fucks
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:18:51 AM
No.714638395
>>714638301
Anon's literally gonna meet the police tonight at this rate.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:25:27 AM
No.714638834
>>714640979
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:34:15 AM
No.714639432
>>714639367
I even noticed this one as a kid.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:43:44 AM
No.714640032
>>714631464 (OP)
/v/ is more autisitc than actual Sonicfags, kys OP
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:44:51 AM
No.714640113
lmao japs cant do anything original
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:47:04 AM
No.714640250
>>714631464 (OP)
why are autists so fucking tone deaf? these are vaguely similar at best.
fyi, sonic cd and einhander both stole, sorry, "sampled" a shit ton straight from lords of acids music from the early 90s
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:00:18 AM
No.714641146
>>714642181
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:04:15 AM
No.714641421
>>714637701
when normalniggers catch me listening to YMO they say "huur it sounds like vidya music" when everything was basically stolen from them and a few others back then
>>714637432
Post the site? IMO it was a lot less embarrassing in the 98 days when touhou was really immersed in doijin culture
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:07:19 AM
No.714641595
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:10:50 AM
No.714641818
>>714642082
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:11:52 AM
No.714641874
>>714642208
>>714641537
Lemme find it. It's a Japanese blog and my skills deciphering the lunar language lay dormant.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:13:28 AM
No.714641961
Music copyright is weird because yeah I'm convinced this is the big reason why Mother 3 isn't getting released here but Doom derives a lot of its music from popular metal bands, the devs are open about it, and the composer was a lawyer.
I get Mother 3 derives from Michael Jackson and the Beatles but still
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:13:58 AM
No.714641983
>>714642286
>>714640997
>lords of acid
MNO collective barely counts, anon. Do you fucking have any idea how many projects they were juggling and outputting in the 90s? The lords was just the one that actually took off pseudo-mainstream and got in movies. Fuck man, oliver adams and kahn alone must've had 50 different hustles going.
Doing anything remotely close to acid and NOT sounding like something they at some point touched is impossible.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:17:23 AM
No.714642181
>>714641146
ofc the anime is plagiari- wait A-ko is from the 80s
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:17:50 AM
No.714642208
>>714643918
>>714641537
>>714641874
I couldn't find what I was thinking of, but I did find:
https://niguruta.hatenablog.com/entry/20090317/1237261356
Which is from 2009 and funnier because it's a blog by /ourguy/ nigur-uta.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:19:09 AM
No.714642286
>>714643123
>>714641983
>sounding like
no, it wasn't "like", it was sampled and either slowed down or sped up. go listen to einhander and over 60% of it is their work and not someone else's. for whatever reason, the japanese steal more peoples music than any other group and they never credit anyone
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:20:11 AM
No.714642350
>>714631464 (OP)
>>714631547
A lot of Japanese do this.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:21:50 AM
No.714642451
>>714642982
The ridiculous concept of "intellectual property" has rotted people's minds.
>>714632867
>There are suits and other accountants who lurk these sites
Haha. Yeah, suits would definitely consider 4chan to be a bastion of hidden knowledge, even if the last 105 times they listened to anons it turned out to be nonsense as soon as they spoke the idea aloud to a colleague.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:24:58 AM
No.714642651
>>714643031
>>714642504
You laugh but I posted a song in another board and the video went private shortly afterward. They lurk here.
YOU aren't fooling anyone marketer.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:26:36 AM
No.714642750
>>714643112
>>714631464 (OP)
lol that video is stupid, the melody is different in all the examples. The most you could say is some instruments are similar, but they're all using synthesizer sounds anyway. Stupid video and stupid thread
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:30:55 AM
No.714643031
>>714643802
>>714642651
>and the video went private shortly afterward.
I keep finding accounts I like dying
Sometimes in the middle of listening to a song
I like to pretend I'm Truman and someone who has the rights to the track is a fan of me and had to wrestle between his idol's joy and his legal desires
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:32:28 AM
No.714643123
>>714643296
>>714642286
Ok, I'm calling you out on this. Point me to the songs you think are direct theft. Because skimming through them, it sounds like you just never heard acid other than the one group(I can tell one you must be thinking of is Madness, but there's only superficial similarity there.)
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:37:04 AM
No.714643390
>JRPG fans when you show them ELP
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:44:25 AM
No.714643817
>>714643296
Yes, superficial, like I said. The arrangements are not the same regardless of speed; only the sound of the synths and the general style(not that uncommon) are similar. FFS anon, if that's enough for you to scream theft, just dipping deeper into electronic period's gonna be enough to give you an aneurysm. You wouldn't survive an excursion into drum and bass.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:45:47 AM
No.714643904
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:45:56 AM
No.714643918
>>714642208
strange oriental discourse is the worst
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:47:18 AM
No.714643986
>>714643889
also how could i forget the insane.
>here's literally two seconds of Studiopolis followed by 9 of Consolation No 3
what
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:49:28 AM
No.714644096
>>714653296
>>714631464 (OP)
Didn't ask don't care. I want sex with Amy Rose and you can't stop me
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:20:26 AM
No.714645931
I would call this a homage rather than plagiarism, but I never see this get brought up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvbh3NgbKjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqTfBysL0wE
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:26:48 AM
No.714646304
>>714638098
Ian Flynn is what you get when you let wh*tes take the reigns on Sonic
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:30:24 AM
No.714646498
>>714647286
It's always funny when people who don't know a lot about music begin to realize there's only 12 notes that you're working with. Does plagiarism happen? Yeah, but some shit is just reaching.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:36:48 AM
No.714646842
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:45:41 AM
No.714647286
>>714646498
nothing is stopping you playing with microtonal instruments
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:50:13 AM
No.714647513
It's ok
/v/eddit told me that nips stealing shit is ok somehow
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:55:27 AM
No.714647769
>>714661352
what's the scandal exactly?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:57:05 AM
No.714647854
>>714631464 (OP)
Don't let people know Uematsu stole the opening bars of a Let My Love Open the Door
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:58:16 AM
No.714647920
>>714631464 (OP)
All these plagiarized song examples in a video game format is kino
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:02:52 AM
No.714648184
>>714662351
Just admit it.
You all only bitch about plagiarism because you like watching people seethe and abusing any opportunity to get some composer/producer/whoever in a lot of trouble. I mean yeah, it's funny, but
None of you, or at least most of you, don't actually give a shit. Foremost reason is why would you? You're a fucking /v/irgin, there's no fucking way you're serious about it LMAO get fucking real. I know some of you would deny that but I know it's to maintain the facade for the other would-be anons to bite your bait anyway because that's what it's all about, right? Second, however, is that if you truly did understand what it means to plagiarize, then you must also understand that it's largely, but not completely, a nebulous concept. Sure, people like Kenji Yamamoto kinda just said fuck it and those examples are pretty bad, but many other cases I feel like aren't really cases at all, and are at worst opportunities for big labels and corporations to bully small people (which is analogus to the first point so I understand if that's still your fun and games). There are no original ideas anymore anyway. Sure, there's infinite possible note combinations that can form melodies, but we're several centuries into written music and, especially since DAWs came around, the shit just pours out.
Pours, pours, pours out.
Toby Fox used a small tidbit of Pokey Means Business in Omega Flowey's theme, and Megalovania uses literal samples from the same song, especially as the same song was originally a literal goddamn edit of the song for his EB hack. Is it plagiarism? Stealing?
I don't know, ask Nintendo of all fucking people. Sakurai still put the latter in fucking Smash.
It's just what-fucking-ever, man. It's all bullshit. This isn't even technically aimed at the trolls, it's just aimed at anyone still taking this seriously. I'm spoonfeeding you. Take this as your once in a blue moon sobering rant. I'm crossfaded as a mf btw that's probably why I did this gdoo night
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:04:43 AM
No.714648294
I hope nobody is stupid enough to reply to that bait
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:05:51 AM
No.714648359
Friendly reminder "plagiarism" threads are bottom of the barrel trash and deserve to be mocked
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:48:14 AM
No.714650527
>>714631464 (OP)
nips are so fucking based holy shit
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:43:32 AM
No.714653148
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:46:26 AM
No.714653296
>>714644096
we need you in the other sonic thread that's up
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:47:10 AM
No.714656328
>>714659765
One of the more blatant ones Ive noticed, same chord progression, overall sound and even bass sampling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K03ATBNi3Vw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw8LhykSKxw
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:33:16 AM
No.714658428
>>714639112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww71kaQA_eM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmBrb2CpD58
The man brought what might be the first originally CD-exclusive RPG into light with this fucking masterpiece (too bad he didn't do the rest of the music, but this track along cost a shit ton of money, and the game was already behind schedule).
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:53:02 AM
No.714659230
>>714652989
You think Senoue composed every song in the Sonic series?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:04:46 AM
No.714659718
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:05:46 AM
No.714659765
>>714660090
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:12:03 AM
No.714660015
>>714631464 (OP)
half of these are a massive stretch
"two seconds of a melody are somewhat similar"
still scared for when I do my game and inevitably plagiarise stuff though, doesn't seem like there's any good AI music plagiarism checker or anything out there yet
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:13:37 AM
No.714660090
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:42:04 AM
No.714661352
>>714647769
everything sounds like everything else for some reason. i am very, very smart for noticing this. you're welcome
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:01:52 PM
No.714662351
>>714662439
>>714648184
This really.
Super pretencious originality in most autistic literal sense of it is the reason why we had household appliance's orgy called Dubstep. Baseline and beats are like base crust in cuisine. You want think copyrighted?
